psyker-class

[buoyant maple]

Yea

[marble crater]

[buoyant maple]

Im Chinese I get to decide how math works

[blissful solar]

based...

[autumn lark]

hueheihau i see ancient dragon fly in sky breave fire

[deft stump]

I hate Maths. Can I pull out a frag?

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/krach-boursier-calculate-monkey-silly-gif-14808948

[deft stump]

Make Maths go boom yes.

[autumn lark]

monkey see monkey do

(crashing out)

[buoyant maple]

Basically there’re 2 brackets

Base toughness
Curio toughness multiplier

They’re 2 brackets that multiply with each other

If the toughness bonus has a % on it, it’s in the curio modifier bracket

If it doesn’t have % on it, it goes into base toughness bracket

[deft stump]

You need a + between them?

Or ×.

[nocturne dust]

[deft stump]

I dunno, Math makes hed hurt.

[nocturne dust]

This filthy non-nerd doesn't know two adjacent brackets implies multiplication

[deft stump]

Things go boom when hed hurty.

[buoyant maple]

This is like grade 3 maths

[nocturne dust]

It is very basic math, yeah

[deft stump]

I hated Maths though, barring tessellation.

[nocturne dust]

(a)(b) === a × b

[deft stump]

Not sure why it's in Maths but...

[nocturne dust]

Boi are you gonna be mad when you learn about geometry

[deft stump]

I forgot formulas for years already btw.

Only reason I know radius and diameter is cos... uhhhhh... THINGS.

[prime elk]

Is this some sort of heretical language?

[buoyant maple]

The most complicated maths gets in DT is for chance based talents

Where u get to use probability analysis

[nocturne dust]

(a + b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2

[deft stump]

Look, it happens or it doesn't. Luck.

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/jon-tron-out-of-this-house-lm001-evil-possessed-gif-12754917

[silver mantle]

Foil method

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-nerds-gif-4326892

[buoyant maple]

The most complicated maths in this game I think are ogryn’s BLO, headhunter blessing and psyker’s true aim

And maybe twinned blast + demo team in an estimation

[nocturne dust]

but true aim is just deducting probabilities

[silver mantle]

What about the chances of bro doing the clutch?

[deft stump]

It never happens when you need it, simple.

[nocturne dust]

y no calculus

[buoyant maple]

Not quite cuz u get 5 individual events of equal probability, then 6th is guarantee

[nocturne dust]

where the kark are my derivatives

[buoyant maple]

It mixes up a little bit

BLO is 2 sets of probability

[deft stump]

Why Math in psyker mains. I thought that's Vet mains thing...

[nocturne dust]

uuuuhhhhh, yes, but then the value of true aim is also lowered by the regular crit chance

🤓

[deft stump]

Where Oggy nuke.

[buoyant maple]

Some talents get overlooked because of chance

[nocturne dust]

wat

excuse me

I literally mathed the dps of FGS mks for giggles

Wat u mean, "vet's thing", we are the big brain bois

[dark swift]

Are warp charges bugged rn? I don't get any charges when I kill an elite or special??

[deft stump]

They do the boring numbers there.

[nocturne dust]

correct

[patent mango]

buff bar is stinky and no worky

it should still be there just invis

[nocturne dust]

only fun numbers here

[buoyant maple]

I did, for crusher

Then yall overlooked it

[deft stump]

That's easy, 2 ammo crate means Oggy gets 9 nukes.

BOOM.

[nocturne dust]

crusher BPs are stinky

Boss damage is where it is at

[clear heath]

Did you ever try again with the test fixed? Iirc you messed up and forgot to take off warp rider, which favoured mk8 cause push attack builds peril

[nocturne dust]

It wasn't messed up, it was purposeful

I did the testing with a full build

and mk8 still lost

[nocturne dust]

also, also, it was kinda unfair because mk6 can easily hit the 3-hit BP (2 overheads, 1 stab) with very minor buffs and that should drastically improve its crusher DPS

but that's the complex part of psyker

[buoyant maple]

Yea mk8 takes more to get there but it’s not hard to get them in combat usually

[clear heath]

I mean I did say it wouldn't apply to my usecase.
I have different buffs, and breakpoint tests don't matter much to me. Testing dps on things with breakpoints is inherently gonna be different because of wasted damage on overkill
But in real gameplay, i'm a filthy cheater with healthbars mod so i'll be aiming my stabs on things with higher hp, and not wasting the damage

[prime elk]

The more single target FGS had bit better single target dps? 🤯

[analog agate]

Mk8 is more for horde

[nocturne dust]

bit better when the mk8 was given more advantages, yes

[clear heath]

I still stand by the fact that i don't think the differences in dps actually matter

it's such a small difference

[nocturne dust]

Generally, they don't, yeah

[analog agate]

It doesn’t. It all stemmed from some zealot players jerking it over a buffed push attack stab that could quickly destroy a crusher

[clear heath]

zealot players like their big attacks on long delays
thunder hammer thrust enjoyers

[nocturne dust]

The giggles I did it for were spite giggles

[buoyant maple]

It’s statistically more likely for me to roll twinned blast twice in a row than for mk6 / mk8 to have meaningful dps differences in havoc

[analog agate]

I think in game they are really really close

[nocturne dust]

They're decently close. The DPS is about 200 difference iirc?

and you can easily waste that much so 🤷‍♂️

[fickle flint]

is there only 3 personality voice types or is there a hidden one?

[clear heath]

I think if you naturally push attack -> heavy when you play, mk8 will be better
and mk6 if you don't

[nocturne dust]

I wish FGS had thrust

[buoyant maple]

That’s a 4% chance btw
Rolling 2 twinned blast in a row

[clear heath]

but i push attack like 10 times per game so that doesn't really support my playstyle

[stark crown]

3 with small differences between genders if there’s an option

[nocturne dust]

I don't push attack

[buoyant maple]

“Hidden one” is when u tag enemies so much your character stops talking for half the game

[stark crown]

Insane if you aren’t PAing with FGS

[nocturne dust]

No need when Bulwarks expose themselves

[buoyant maple]

I would know because that’s what my character sounds like

[autumn lark]

2shots crushers on overhead lole

also push attack oneshot

[clear heath]

push attack is a good tool to have
I just don't do it constantly

[buoyant maple]

Depending on ur weapons u may not need to

Psyker’s kit is just busted

[autumn lark]

psyker's weakness is being a wet tissue

actual glas cannon class

[analog agate]

The corner shooter hiding in the dark is my worst enemy

[nocturne dust]

sssshhhhh

If you say stuff like that

[buoyant maple]

Glass railgun

[nocturne dust]

you'll call in the try hards that never ever take damage claiming Psyker is the easiest class

[buoyant maple]

Not cannon anymore

[nocturne dust]

No, it's a cannon

big boom of fire

[clear heath]

glass nuke

[nocturne dust]

Railgun would be voidstrike meta

[buoyant maple]

Any more buffs and psyker becomes glass deathstrike missile

[prime elk]

Not even glass

It's bulletproof glass now

[deft stump]

Voidstrike buff when?

[nocturne dust]

I don't remember them adding in Unchained Psyker

[stark crown]

I mean I’ll be honest if you even got a semblance of skill and you’re using EE you’ll barely ever take damage outside of scenarios where the game is literally stacking everything against you

It’s so weird how lopsided Psyker survivability is

[nocturne dust]

so literally every mode on the highest difficulty

[stark crown]

You either

Never take damage

Or get obliterated

No where in between

[buoyant maple]

Down in 2 hits

[stark crown]

I’ve gone flawless with SG psyker lmao

[buoyant maple]

Or 1, if u get shot by a shotgunner in havoc

[clear heath]

being invulnerable until you die instantly is a big part of the class's identity at this point

[buoyant maple]

[nocturne dust]

I have too 🤷‍♂️

[stark crown]

I just feel like that’s Psyker

[patent mango]

I AM UNSTOPPABL-

[stark crown]

You don’t have a safety net talent like the other 3

So you just either a

Never die or B instantly die

Lmao

[buoyant maple]

There is, it just requires u to drop dps

[nocturne dust]

Name it

[buoyant maple]

Dome?

Dome is pretty nice

[analog agate]

Even bubble you can’t insta cast because of their weird stun

[stark crown]

Okay true

But I run walls cause they’re funnier

[nocturne dust]

That's an ability, not a talent 🤓

[buoyant maple]

U can unfuck most situations with dome

[prime elk]

Literally unplayable

[nocturne dust]

True, but it's still paltry compared to shout/book

We don't speak of Oggie

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[ornate hamlet]

HEY

[buoyant maple]

I’ve come to value VoC less after playing exe boltgun for event for 2 days

[nocturne dust]

hi

[ornate hamlet]

Oggies fine

[nocturne dust]

🤮

Spoken like an Oggie main

[buoyant maple]

Ogryn has one that’s on 8s CD

[patent mango]

ogryn mains enjoying their 1 havoc viable build

[nocturne dust]

Which is paltry compared to bubble/book/shout

[ornate hamlet]

Is ogryn really that bad? I haven't done havoc yet

[nocturne dust]

I mean

[jovial juniper]

More like

[patent mango]

yea

[nocturne dust]

you can do anything

with anything

[buoyant maple]

Nah it’s very useful

[nocturne dust]

but yes

Oggie bad

[patent mango]

ogryn talent tree is very boring and more htan half the weps suck

[jovial juniper]

Not a lot of build variety

[patent mango]

plus bugs

[buoyant maple]

It’s up more often than most people give credit

[nocturne dust]

Useful? Yes, I never denied that

[jovial juniper]

But bad bad not really

[ornate hamlet]

What bugs

[buoyant maple]

People have very strong biases towards ogryn but he does have a lot of good talents that usually aren’t hard to grab

[jovial juniper]

But like
Shield doesn't really care about Havoc modifiers so

[buoyant maple]

Ogryn’s problems are with his weapons

Grand total of 2 good melee

[nocturne dust]

Shame Oggie will never get another build

Actually

maybe they'll nerf shield to 'bring it in line with the other stuff'

[autumn lark]

pickaxe latrine shovel

[nocturne dust]

[buoyant maple]

Veteran is not much better, sitting at 4.5 good melee weapons

[jovial juniper]

More mass? Don't care
Stagger resistance? Don't care
Shooters? Don't care
Shield them all

[patent mango]

cant mantle consistently

[buoyant maple]

Nah, pickaxe / shield

[clear heath]

pickaxe shield are all 2 of my ogryn builds

[autumn lark]

ok now imagine this

[buoyant maple]

It’s very funny when psyker has more good melee weapons than veteran does

[autumn lark]

vet with a power dagger and buckler

[patent mango]

tbh idk if there more bugs

[jovial juniper]

Then you get a havoc Boss and your shield becomes sluggish

[patent mango]

but the mantle one is soooo bad i've heard people say they odnt play ogryn specifically because of it

[jovial juniper]

So bring a can opener ripper or something

[stark crown]

Never happening they’d give it to Zealot

[ornate hamlet]

Huh

[nocturne dust]

still better than psyker

[patent mango]

veteran is at an incredible 0 melee weapons i want to use

[stark crown]

Trust me I want another melee option but holy fuck veteran will be cursed with 4 choices

[autumn lark]

most logical choice is either longlas or melta

[buoyant maple]

Nah psyker has more
The 3 force swords actually do different things so I consider them as 3
Knife
Duelling sword
FGS kinda

So that’s 5

[ornate hamlet]

Not even the shovel?

[buoyant maple]

5>4.5

[autumn lark]

power fist is extremely wanted but not on the insignia list

however pickaxe wasnt either

[nocturne dust]

FS, FGS, Dueling, Knife

4

[patent mango]

fs fgs and ds

[nocturne dust]

Illisi is just worse FGS

[buoyant maple]

The force swords do different things and aren’t that similar

[nocturne dust]

and I have always maintained Illisi is overrated

[buoyant maple]

Deimos and illisi are completely different for example

[patent mango]

illisi needs like 1 or 2 different attacks

[buoyant maple]

Whereas vet is 4.5 at best

[patent mango]

1 overhead at least

[nocturne dust]

and all 3 of them are replaceable tho

Deimos -> DS

[jovial juniper]

The foldable shovel got "nerfed" because they nerfed Brutal Momentum vs Ogryns
So you can't kill 4 Ogryns at once with your shovel
Still would say top 3

[nocturne dust]

Illisi -> FGS

Obscurus is obscurus

[buoyant maple]

I’m leaning more towards the 4 end because heavy sword is just 1 extra blessing away from being really good

[patent mango]

heavy sword is so slow on psyker guh

[buoyant maple]

I think Deimos is on a similar level as duelling sword

[autumn lark]

i want a complete blessing overhaul

[nocturne dust]

It's close. It's not Duelling Sword.

[buoyant maple]

It’s the best scaling force sword into havoc for sure

[autumn lark]

reshuffle blessings and remove some to make way for more interresting ones

like perfect strike decimator relic blade

[jovial juniper]

DevaStrike

[stark crown]

Wait wait you guys still hate it even after it’s insane buffs

Like they made it genuinely viable

[nocturne dust]

Never said it wasn't viable

It's just... 🤷‍♂️

[patent mango]

its wonky

[nocturne dust]

It's a weapon

It exists

[stark crown]

I’ve witnessed it delete a crusher in under 2 seconds

My stance on the Obscurus is it’s a on par with the other 2

[nocturne dust]

You can oneshot a crusher with Illisi

Like, buffs are buffs

[buoyant maple]

It’s not as good as Deimos into havoc

Deimos can afford to run deflector to be funny

[nocturne dust]

Obscurus definitely can't delete crushers without some buffs

[deft stump]

[buoyant maple]

Obscurus without slaughterer feels bland

[ocean totem]

Slow mode on zealot

It’s so over

[strong gulch]

It helps my skill issue. 😭

[stark crown]

I honestly should make an Obscurus Melee Psyker I’ve been playing too much FGS

[buoyant maple]

And u kind of don’t get to use sword for melee horde clear like half the time

Not saying u can’t, it’s just kinda not worth

[nocturne dust]

counterpoint: you can just keep playing FGS

[stark crown]

Counterpoint

That’s boring as fuck

[nocturne dust]

Wow, didn't know you were a heretic

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1321371717599367198/Greatsword_Elmo.gif

Guess I have to cut you in half with BIG SWORD now

[strong gulch]

I still need to get gud with FGS.

Also still haven't played it a lot.

[haughty star]

I still can't like fgs6 more than 8

6 just so slow feeling

[nocturne dust]

I mean

go play caxe

then move to 6

then it'll feel fast

[buoyant maple]

I’m actually curious what’s the highest general dps melee for psyker

Don’t tell me it’s a Rashad with scrier’s gaze

Cuz that’ll be too funny

[nocturne dust]

I mean, probably FGS, no?

[patent mango]

i really really doubt that lmao

[haughty star]

Yeah i don't think it's fgs by any means

[patent mango]

should be fgs

[clear heath]

Do we count fgs hitting infinite targets with the special?

[haughty star]

Unless counting special

[clear heath]

Cause infinity dps is quite high

[nocturne dust]

most of psyker's really powerful melees are single-target

a general melee is between... wat, FGS annnnnnddddd.... a bleed knife or slaughterer Deimos?

[wind spruce]

Bleed knife bad

[buoyant maple]

My metric would prob be

Melee weapon only
Vs 50 pox
Vs 20 bruiser
Vs 6 crusher
Vs 6 rager
Vs plague ogryn

What’s like the best performing one across all these on avg

It doesn’t have to be #1 in everything

[nocturne dust]

They just need to change Warp Slice so that it is a passive charge thing instead of weird crit nonsense

Then FGS will be perfect

[buoyant maple]

Could be #3 across everything

[wind spruce]

FGS comes close, I imagine

[nocturne dust]

My feeling is FGS, cuz it can outrange ragers and dumpsters most things with raw damage

[buoyant maple]

I hope one of the psyker mains get bored enough to test those

[wind spruce]

FGS will beat anything that beats it in the bottom 3 categories in the top 2

[nocturne dust]

Too much work

[buoyant maple]

It’ll be too funny if it’s just a Rashad in the end

[nocturne dust]

I highly doubt it's Rashad

Psyker doesn't have the BPs without buffs, in an arena setting Psyker won't have those buffs to start with

[buoyant maple]

On veteran Rashad is like 2-3 best across all of those pretty sure

[nocturne dust]

and FGS will get those buffs as well, theoretically

[buoyant maple]

Not sure abt psyker

[clear heath]

Yeah how many buffs are we allowing, and how much can the build be catereed to the situation?

[buoyant maple]

Build anything

Random bullshit go

[nocturne dust]

puts on charged strike

[clear heath]

Like if we buff enough, pretty sure illisi and rashad can get it down to 2 swings against those 6 ragers

[buoyant maple]

But has to be same build across all 6 trials

[wind spruce]

Rashad can hit the bruiser breakpoint with DD and perks

[deft stump]

Permission to lacerate knoife?

[proper osprey]

@buoyant maple im finally being converted to the mk6 knife

[nocturne dust]

well yes

[strong gulch]

If you buff enough, illisi can one shot crushers. That's funny and unrealistic tho.

[nocturne dust]

but the BPs on the other stuff tho?

[buoyant maple]

Then u can say like

Let’s say, hypothetically, FGS wins overall, you can look at the best performing build and see what are the core talents that contribute towards it winning

[wind spruce]

7 HBP

[clear heath]

like would DD and slaughterer stacking pre-test be allowed?

[buoyant maple]

No prestack

[nocturne dust]

On Plogryn?

[buoyant maple]

But

If u feel like

U can do with & without prestack

[stark crown]

I’ve got 800k in a match once for scoreboard if that means anything lmao

[nocturne dust]

I don't feel like it

[strong gulch]

How would assail be weighed in this since that is almost always the pick with melee SG DD builds?

[buoyant maple]

I prob would write DD prestack off tho, seems like too much effort to control

[clear heath]

I think rashad would probably win half of those tbh

[patent mango]

i think my most melee dmg was 900k?

[buoyant maple]

Doesn’t get included because it’s melee only

[patent mango]

pure melee dmg

[nocturne dust]

pure, raw, unfettered meleeker

[patent mango]

warp slice seems to do like

[wind spruce]

Half of 5?

[patent mango]

25% ish of total?

[strong gulch]

That's why I was asking because other buffs and talents started getting included.

[buoyant maple]

Exactly the way the emperor intended

[patent mango]

i mean warp slash

not the blesing

[buoyant maple]

No inclusion of anything except melee weapon, basically

I’m rly curious

[strong gulch]

Then no DD and other buffs?

[buoyant maple]

Build anything as long as it’s the same build across all 6 trials, and it’s melee only

[nocturne dust]

I feel like the danger in such testing is you could do weird builds with charged strike

[buoyant maple]

Fuck it why not

[nocturne dust]

or other nodes that are normally never-picks

[buoyant maple]

Let’s see how much it’s actually gonna do

[nocturne dust]

ew

[strong gulch]

I just woke up, so brain not braining.

[clear heath]

I'm thinking it would win poxwalker and bruiser
and get like maybe 2nd place for ragers

[nocturne dust]

Idk who you can get to do this testing, cuz it ain't me

[buoyant maple]

Twinned blast was mostly considered as dogshit until havoc came out

U never know until u test

[autumn lark]

i always ran twinned blast

[nocturne dust]

Well, you can guess tho

[clear heath]

yeah i'm not testing all that

[nocturne dust]

and sometimes, the chance of the guess being wrong isn't worth the effort

[deft stump]

It's a Lets go gambling, awww dangit thing.

[nocturne dust]

Well, that's just because vet has become grenade, spammer of explosions

[clear heath]

I would assume that fastest plague ogryn fight would be either fgs or ds4

[wind spruce]

Interesting. Can it non crit one shot ragers like FGS, duelling sword and deimos?

[clear heath]

idk, are we allowing gambling on crit rng?

[nocturne dust]

knife?

[clear heath]

oh maybe knife

[stark crown]

Uncanny Bleed Blessing Knife just deleting any fucking boss

Don’t forget that

[clear heath]

idk maybe you can get enough buffs and gamble on crit rng to one shot 4 ragers at once with rashad

no idea if it can reach that

[nocturne dust]

well, aren't we calculating off avg and not peak?

otherwise you get to reset until every hit is a crit

[buoyant maple]

Yea just avg

[clear heath]

damn no gambling for rashad crits

[buoyant maple]

I think for psyker Rashad will pull significantly ahead in everything besides crusher and boss

Where it might lose to others

[clear heath]

although, you're crit chance would be high anyways cause of scriers

[nocturne dust]

[buoyant maple]

Well, def losing to duelling sword for crushers

[lone wing]

everything loses to ds4

[deft stump]

Horde clear.

[stark crown]

Are we actually getting into a theoretical discussion of Rashad Psyker

[upper sun]

@blissful solar damn the part with the reapers was fire

[lone wing]

even then

[blissful solar]

there were so many bullets

[buoyant maple]

No I’m just curious what’s the actual generalist best melee for psyker

[stark crown]

Cause I feel like

[lone wing]

horde clear isn't really that big an issue unless there's armor in there

[upper sun]

lemme clip it

[stark crown]

It’s possible

[clear heath]

take ds2 to not get absolutely dumpstered on the horde tests

[stark crown]

If you dump into like mettle, DD, Warp Speed SG

[upper sun]

NOOOO audio didnt work

[stark crown]

To make up for your lack of defense

[lone wing]

chad move is ds5

forego any direct anti armor for style points

[stark crown]

You know what fuck it cause I actually want to experiment

I’ll try that out later

[deft stump]

You mean, I flung myself off Gloriana before anyone else can do it to me.

[lone wing]

ds5 zealot is kind of fun

[lone wing]

[clear heath]

also a weird issue
if we're doing melee only tests, it actually biases against non-warp weapons
Cause you can't get warp splitting to work

[lone wing]

the dodge distance on ds5 is insane

[upper sun]

@blissful solar lemme restart real quick

or no i dont need to restart

[stark crown]

Smart cause you would’ve heard the split second of an Agripiina 9 VA firing before immediately being flung off the map

[upper sun]

yeah no audio on recordings for today

[buoyant maple]

U can use scrier’s gaze and sword’s warp function

[upper sun]

anyone else wanna join?

[wind spruce]

Weave BB micro charges

[lone wing]

what yall running

[upper sun]

anything except havoc

[lone wing]

bet

[deft stump]

Heh.

[buoyant maple]

It would be so funny
If the actual best generalist turns out to be a kinetic flayer Rashad with scrier’s gaze

[strong gulch]

If ur still playing after a mission, I can.

[clear heath]

I think illisi gets dumpstered if we don't allow 15 DD prestack

[upper sun]

sure

[stark crown]

Not even Assail?

[buoyant maple]

Melee only

[stark crown]

Ah

[buoyant maple]

No weapon swap

Just melee

[stark crown]

True unfettered Melee Psyker

Yeah I see nvm lmao

Gambling on that KF proc

[buoyant maple]

Become veteran 0.8

[stark crown]

I’d say you really have to dump into like

Mettle and Warp Speed

To make up for your lack of range so you can just rush everything down

[vagrant onyx]

Warp speed is hard to drop after using it for so long

[patent mango]

mettle and warp speed r just jolly in general

[stark crown]

DD if we REALLY want to fucking crazy with speed also

[nocturne dust]

their uptime is such that you'd have to really invest to keep them up tho

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you go DD anyway

[stark crown]

EP cause…. Fuck you that’s why

Lmao

[nocturne dust]

speed isn't actually that great tho considering the uptimes

[vagrant onyx]

Crack of bone makes keeping SG ramp up a snooze

[stark crown]

But yeah no seriously you should always run DD with melee

[sudden shuttle]

Got a question in general- i cant seem to find the variations of guns/Melee weapons anymore- did they remove variants or make them class specific?

[stark crown]

If you’re running like BM Rashad

[patent mango]

top right in armory

click weapon
then click marks

[stark crown]

That shit should constantly be proccing

[sudden shuttle]

i dont see it at all..

only thing that'd be top right of the screen would be the gold

[stark crown]

Have you not leveled up their mastery?

[sudden shuttle]

i have

[buoyant maple]

Nah only 5 metrics

@stark crown
Any build (same across all trials)
Melee weapon only, no weapon swap
Vs 50 pox
Vs 20 bruiser
Vs 6 crusher
Vs 6 rager
Vs plague ogryn

[stark crown]

Something in me says

Crushers and Plogryn

[lone wing]

bruh @upper sun why you playing in eurpoean servers

[stark crown]

Might go very swimmingly

[sudden shuttle]

nevermind i found it

[stark crown]

Ragers not so much

[dense flume]

Operator > loadout> pick weapon > select weapon top right

Should have inspect, mark and cosmetics

[clear heath]

I think fgs might actually win against 50 pox because of the special

[buoyant maple]

It could

[lone wing]

scab or dreg ragers

[buoyant maple]

Rashad has the downside of not having access to malefic momentum easily

[stark crown]

I mean it does the same against bruisers with weaker elites in the mix

The FGS is just that fucking strong

[buoyant maple]

Both, tbh

[lone wing]

the special, full charged, with 30 scrier stacks
can one shot maulers

and bulwarks

now that i think of it

[clear heath]

the problem with doing that for the other tests is there's not enough enemies to actually get the charge

but poxers it could do it

[stark crown]

Truly fair and balanced

Lmao

[lone wing]

yes

you need to know the set up for it though, most people just dont

or they trigger the special too early and explode because of the warp unbound buff not triggering until they're already exploding

[worn heron]

Lmfao the exodus to psyker chat

[lone wing]

no i've been dwelling here for a while, maining psyker for about a week

[stark crown]

I talk here rarely

[strong gulch]

@upper sun I can play now. Ping me when ur out of mission.

[clear heath]

fgs would win if it was allowed to do all the tests at the same time

one big slash

[stark crown]

I went back to my actual home known as Vet chat since what

4 days ago

[worn heron]

GOOD noob

[lone wing]

iirc he has a slot open, i left because i was on 200 ping and i cannot be fucking asked

[stark crown]

I mean at least my chat isn’t cannibalizing itself 🚬

[strong gulch]

Rest in peas.

[deft stump]

Not everyone can deal with high ping.

[lone wing]

i cannot play this game when my animations are breaking on the fgs

[worn heron]

U joined a grubcord from a zeal chatter.. dat wuz ur chat ,,

[strong gulch]

Me neither tbh. I just die.

[worn heron]

So noobe ,,

[stark crown]

Speaking of are they still arguing in there

[worn heron]

Goku smoking cigarette ,,

[strong gulch]

But it's funny

[worn heron]

Nop

[stark crown]

I left cause it was miserable

[worn heron]

The terminally online have departed

[stark crown]

Thank god

[worn heron]

Erm i did it first ur a poser

(Good that place was rabies incarnate)

[deft stump]

Stand infront of gunner, 0 damage. Randomly stand around, somehow downed by nothing.

[worn heron]

Stand in front of yo mama

[strong gulch]

Anxiety attack simulator.

[stark crown]

Arguing every fucking day truly is fun! (Grubcord 24/7)

[deft stump]

Look, that happens at 8 ping anyway.

[worn heron]

I am totally prepared for the problem childen to go totally unpunished

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-goku-gif-23021205

[worn heron]

Does any1 have an fgs purg venting build i can steal

[stark crown]

Yam have you not left yet

[autumn lark]

i miss u very much

nah

[stark crown]

Why not

That’s my question

[worn heron]

Falsehood

[strong gulch]

At least with lower ping it more consistent general anxiety.

[autumn lark]

cause i have no other private server with friends

[worn heron]

I should make my own grubcord..

[deft stump]

NoNoNo, just panic all the time.

[autumn lark]

and it got tame after clad shushed

[worn heron]

It's got muuuuch worse than clad in it lmfao

[strong gulch]

Panic bursts.

[buoyant maple]

U can do them on repeat (like, crusher trial repeat 3 times, find best)

Just specify in the best performing one what was used (ex: moonlight slash)

[deft stump]

All the time and super panic bursts.

[upper sun]

@candid lark you good? my apologies wrong ping

[blissful solar]

this random guy named vodka

[upper sun]

oh shit

@lone wing

[worn heron]

Warp unbound is 10 seconds right ?

[stark crown]

DMs are a thing

[upper sun]

@strong gulch wanna go vodka died

[lone wing]

yeah im aight

i cannot play this game on 230 ping though

[autumn lark]

i dont like dms

[upper sun]

f

[deft stump]

Just group DM, srsly.

[autumn lark]

it feels so personal

[lone wing]

why are you on european servers

[deft stump]

Perhaps it's to get the best ping for everyone?

[lone wing]

he had a friend also on 200 ping

[blissful solar]

literally me :3

[lone wing]

us east would have been the play

[upper sun]

wait

[deft stump]

Not if I'm there.

[upper sun]

shit

[deft stump]

US east is worse than EU.

[upper sun]

everyone is US except me

we should have gone to us

[clear heath]

clad just move

[upper sun]

no

[lone wing]

im still on 100 ping on us east but i can play the game at least lol

[deft stump]

US east is 20-60 ping higher than EU.

[stark crown]

I think it’s actually 5 cause it’s a relatively short gap once you hit 100%

[hearty wolf]

What

What does that even mean

It's 10 seconds lol

[lone wing]

yes

[stark crown]

Istfg it feels drastically shorter

[hearty wolf]

Well it isn't

[lone wing]

technically it's 11.5 including the 1.5 second grace period given by scrier's by default

[worn heron]

Ohg

[lone wing]

that grace period starts after warp unbound ends btw

[worn heron]

How many fully charged voidblasts would that be

[stark crown]

So it’s even fucking longer

[autumn lark]

would join instantly

[stark crown]

Estimate probably you could push like 3 but this isn’t taking into consideration if you’re using Flurry

[hearty wolf]

I'd still avoid using that first 1.5 though because that's where you can still rarely die before WU actually applied to your character.

[lone wing]

you have enough time to do a fgs special and throw 10 assail shards

[lone wing]

the 1.5 happens after warp unbound ends

that's why you explode

if it happened before you'd be fine

[tepid python]

can brain blast kill mutants yet

[stuck sinew]

Yes

Eventually

[torn kernel]

[deft stump]

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[balmy comet]

Hello! Need an advice (still learning the game). Last game I apparently quite annoyed a Zealot, but he did care to elaborate. I think I played quite well (never went down) and did my job, didn't abuse healing, etc. Is there anything I'm missing regarding Zealot/Psyker interaction? Thanks for any advice!

[blissful solar]

do you use smite?

[balmy comet]

No, I did shards

[nocturne dust]

Extremely hard to say without more information

[blissful solar]

hard to know, really. could have been anything. maybe you use trauma staff and knocked enemies away from him

people could even get upset for no good reason too

[balmy comet]

Is there something like an argo build that Zealot needs to use?

[agile laurel]

i completed the ogryns event with a friend + 2 bots and smite spam

[blissful solar]

idk what that is

[prime elk]

Yeah wouldn't sweat it

Trauma and smite are prob the two psyker specific things that trigger people most often

[balmy comet]

Sorry, I was not clear. I cleared the horde which Zealot already started to engage. I mean do Zealots rely on some kind of thread or agro mechanic and I distrusted him In a way?

[verbal thistle]

yes

they do

[blissful solar]

yeahhh but it's kinda on him if he gets upset that you killed the horde in front of him

[autumn lark]

Only trauma horde backline

[verbal thistle]

they need to dodge attacks for all of these

[autumn lark]

Its mega annoying if you cant get second wind to proc

[verbal thistle]

you get no dps and toughness if someone is stunning the horde

ie smite/trauma

[stark crown]

Vet has only 1 dodge talent iirc

Reciprocity

[deft stump]

It's massive crits though.

[balmy comet]

So what is the best practice / good team player approach to use?

[stark crown]

Basically the only two classes you’re actively “hurting” via enmasse crowd stun would be a melee focused Veteran or Zealot

[blissful solar]

idk if it's clear what the best thing to do is. i guess it'd be weird to just assume your teammate never ever needs help

[stark crown]

Stagger lock issues that can’t simply be dodged example crusher packs

Just shit that can and will obviously quickly devolve into wipes

Hordes of pox walkers are like the lowest priority

[deft stump]

Unless it gets to LAG lvls of hordes.

Near impossible to dodge stuff.

[young falcon]

You can't really control assail though, they just kinda fly where they want till they break on armor

[autumn lark]

1080 TI

[stark crown]

Zealots job or even veterans to wipe out chunks of them to avoid that from happening in the first place

[deft stump]

Eh, A console is 2060 tiers already.

[autumn lark]

You play on console?????????

[deft stump]

No.

But when i mean that, i mean a horde that can cripple a console into crashing.

[blissful solar]

it's mostly your cpu that gets bungled up when there are lots of enemies anyway

[autumn lark]

Light work

[deft stump]

Oh yeah, that true.

[balmy comet]

Ok, as I understand in this situation I need to prioritize range enemies, elites, etc and let Zealots to clear the horde unless it is getting out of control ?

[young falcon]

The only time my fps dipped hard was a walker horde with two dreg tox bombers. Awful.

[weary idol]

they actually go towards whatever's closest to your crosshair

[blissful solar]

as long as you dont hit the enemies right in front of the zealot it'll probably be fiine. unless they're about to get hit by something you dont think they can dodge, then you can help

[deft stump]

In most cases, that should be it unless the horde is attacking you.

[analog agate]

There isn’t a clear cut way to answer you, really. Entirely depends on team composition and skill. While you can depend on many zealots in this discord to be good about stuff. You can’t just not take out hordes and big guys because they get mad they can’t proc stuff

[deft stump]

But it's all really situational.

[analog agate]

The only rule is if they are attacking a guy… don’t be a dick and knock him over

[deft stump]

Unless you see an overhead about to happen, then you choose to take the risk.

[balmy comet]

Ok, maybe I need to play Zealot to understand how it works. Thanks for all the advice!

[deft stump]

Do you knock over the crusher or hope they can dodge it or still have a dodge for it.

[analog agate]

I knock all crushers/bulwarks/maulers down. Always. I never care about zealot procs on them

Because those are stupid ice skates one shots

[deft stump]

I mean, the above is true, but it depends on the Zealot in that case. I wouldn't mind you blowing things up and around, but some might uhh... not be nice about it.

Even worse with the kill penances.

[weary idol]

https://imgur.com/a/fJAPh6K like so

[analog agate]

Assail is so cool

I have 3 more havocs. And then am finally done with the grind

And can return to the fun aurics

[celest valve]

they are guided towards the cursor, and will home in with a small cone where they're flying on heads

[stark crown]

You can make their aiming more precise by literally holding the charged throw without throwing also

[last shore]

They go where the camera goes

[royal falcon]

they go where the breeze takes them

unfortunately the breeze is a bastard that changes randomly every microsecond

[vagrant onyx]

Tfw gave up on assail weaving in havoc

[analog agate]

Unfortunately, the only good blitz in havoc is smite

[nocturne dust]

KF isn't bad.

[vagrant onyx]

I unironically agree

It's just not worth the point most of the time 😦

[mossy oyster]

should parry for them instead

[vagrant onyx]

Doesn't havoc just end up out scaling the damage BB does for one shots

[analog agate]

Mostly, yes

[buoyant maple]

Mainly zealot
Reciprocity is not required for most weapons if the enemy is stunned since veteran doesn’t bank most of their damage on dodge

[vagrant onyx]

I've been slowly chopping through to 20 something since not a lot of time to play between work

[buoyant maple]

But zealot’s duellist is just problematic

It’s too strong when it works

[vagrant onyx]

In the same vein does SG eventually end up just getting outscaled or is there still merit to pure DPS setup? I know ammo also becomes a huge issue so you cant just recon las gun the whole mission like auric or something

[patent mango]

my poor fgs riposte uptime ruined.......

[muted grove]

What is ep smite scrier?

[weary idol]

Empowered Psionics the keystone

Smite the lighting ability

and Scriers Gaze the +damage active ability that increases your perils

[analog agate]

I actually haven’t tried SG in high havoc so don’t know the answer. I assume that more depends on the individual. I think exploits has been doing high havoc melee SG play

[muted grove]

That sounds fun af

Anyone here use that setup before?

[velvet crescent]

oh, huh.

I tried smite and couldn't get it to work. Any major pickups in the tree I need to get?

[muted grove]

EP and probably vent for long smites?

[prime elk]

yeah EP, shriek and battle meditation

[vagrant onyx]

Smite is more for the oh shit moments when there's 8 crushers and 13 ragers merging into your face

[nocturne dust]

no

hold RMB, then hold LMB

win

[velvet crescent]

i was thinking vent too yeah for the soulblaze spread

[nocturne dust]

Smite works without anything, but remains only a stun

If you want it to also murder everything, you'll need EP and Shriek

[analog agate]

By that I mean smite is relatively unaffected by havoc modifiers. BB and assail are still fine-ish

[velvet crescent]

right. for anti heavy, take a force sword?

[nocturne dust]

ds4

[velvet crescent]

thinking uncanny strike and deflector, swap deflector for slaughterer when i dont shck ass

Oh

oh right dueling swords exist

staff... uhhhhh, electric staff?

[nocturne dust]

For wat

[velvet crescent]

I'm thinking of my ranged options

I have smite and shriek for cc and ds for heavies

[vagrant onyx]

What do you do against a gunner horde or sniper wave

You can take something that will round out that and be generalist or you can go purge staff/electro and lean in on horde clearing

[velvet crescent]

iiiii think i usually brainburst but with smite that's not happening

[vagrant onyx]

The best way to approach your load out is to make sure you have a plan for what you might run in to

Youve got clearing mobs and armor covered, so you can look for a ranged to deal with more distant threats

[velvet crescent]

Bowling ball staff might be the play

Voidpurge?

Forgot the name

It was void something

[nocturne dust]

EK is the best anti-shooter staff

[velvet crescent]

thats the zap staff right

electrokinetic

[nocturne dust]

yes

[velvet crescent]

👍

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is powerful but very slow

and often reliant on a build revolving around it to really excel

[velvet crescent]

electrokinetic it is. how far does i zap?

[thorn cedar]

yes indeed

[muted grove]

Dumb question but how does shriek help with the murder

[prime elk]

nah close the distance and burn them

[nocturne dust]

Creeping Flames

[thorn cedar]

not as much lately though cause i got bored of using the FGS so much

[prime elk]

secondary attack is like 26m

[thorn cedar]

and yknow, i wanna win havocs with more unique stuff

[prime elk]

or something along those lines

good distance

[nocturne dust]

but what if... you kill the thing... without running at them

[prime elk]

actually i take back what i said earlier, purg is boring as fuck anyway

[muted grove]

I’m never really took those 6 stacks very seriously but I guess they add up with the smite dots

[prime elk]

they do

[nocturne dust]

[velvet crescent]

sweet, good to know

[prime elk]

soulblaze dots*

[nocturne dust]

Creeping Flames is what lets Vent become the strongest ability on Psyker

It is very good applying soulblaze to practically everything in a direction

6 stacks kill a lot of things

Like, Shriek is so good, the meta on every staff revolves around it with a soulblaze build.

[muted grove]

Like what? I really just though those stacks killed only grunts

[nocturne dust]

They do... alone.

That's why you have the soulblaze build.

PC gets really strong at higher levels, and because it applies to every enemy in an area, it only gets stronger the more enemies get thrown at you

and soulblaze damage scales exponentially

There is really no competition in terms of DPS output on high Havocs/Auric

plus you throw in Psykinetics on top, which also triggers off elites/specials just like PC, and you get a feedback loop off targeting elites/specials where you just continually stack stupid amounts of soulblaze on everything using vent and PC

this is why EK is the best at this kind of build, because it's an elite/special hunter

It's effectively doing what Inferno staff does, but it's staff-agnostic, goes through walls, and has a cap of 31 stacks rather than 15/16

Inferno wins out in high Havocs though, by virtue of the fact that enemies get so chonky that EK with PC can't stack as quickly as Inferno can.

[muted grove]

I just switched from pyro to smite , pyro does crazy damage I just didn’t have very good survivability because scrub

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you're not going to have very good survivability with psyker, period.

Surviving as psyker relies entirely on active means (stagger/suppresion/dealing damage/etc.)

I would say smite makes you more vulnerable

because you can't even turn while smiting, and you instantly lose the smite if anything taps you

[prime elk]

psyker doesn't have good base surv stats, but it has a shit ton of tools to make you survivable, so in reality, it's not that far off from other classes

[nocturne dust]

yes

[velvet crescent]

deflector is handy

ill likely swap off it when i know what im doing but for now it's a nice tool in case of a jackass guy with a gun

[prime elk]

deflector, kinetic deflection, empathic evasion, ultrafast stam regen, shield

bunch of tools to work with

for defense

[ocean totem]

How it feels to have door to door salesman contact you:

[languid furnace]

Heals don’t crit

[blissful solar]

in Texas*

[young cliff]

someone has suggestions for a build using the H.Laspistol? i have tried something and so far it feels clunky compared to normal gunpsyker builds

[loud rain]

so where do i look for a build?

like what talents i should take?

[nocturne dust]

Ask around here for the specific weapons you want to use or something like that

I mean, there's essentially two builds, but they can have lots of little minor alterations depending on the weapon

[loud rain]

o. thought it might be like zealot where its like 90% the exact same thing

blaze greatsword

[nocturne dust]

Only Zealot and Ogryn suffer like that

[nocturne dust]

It kinda is

[loud rain]

so is there a set thing i should do for blaze force greatsword?

dont tell me im throwing for liking this weapon

[prime elk]

it's a good weapon, don't worry

[nocturne dust]

FGS is one of the meta weapons

[ocean totem]

Switch to knife and bolt pistol gunker

[loud rain]

[prime elk]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da95bc2-c968-4cd9-9b57-b0d4ef08d341/fgs

this is what i run

[nocturne dust]

this is my suggestion, you have 1 free point

[prime elk]

you can replace reconlas with bistol if you want bleeding warp slice memes

[nocturne dust]

The secondary is whatever you want really, you mainly use FGS and assail

I take vraks to ammo-dump bosses

[prime elk]

i like reconlas to proc mettle on demand, and to burn out bulwarks

bulwarks have become a real fucking pain in the ass ever since they got the hp buff

[nocturne dust]

There's also this variant for Havoc

[loud rain]

imma mess around a bit and see what works for me. my zealot build has gotten me no complaints from people i have saved so imma just mess around till i got something that works

and sides im lvl 17 on psy rn

just wanted something to look at

thank you all for the help

[lone wing]

join normal board civi
exe stance vet with a not-helbore lasgun
glugger
both die instantly

cool

[muted burrow]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[prime elk]

vraks infantry auto gun, recon las, bistol are the common meta picks

[muted burrow]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[prime elk]

not a bad option either

[velvet crescent]

oh, exe stance is reliant on helbore? I was running it with bolter

i was gonna swap to voice of command anyways but still

[prime elk]

nah exec stance works with almost anything

[velvet crescent]

rog

yeah i run it on bolter to laser down heavies and bosses

[prime elk]

bolter exec is extremely good

[velvet crescent]

aye. I plan to swap from kraks to frags, i've already got solid antiheavy

[prime elk]

yeah good choice

[lone wing]

ye, you can use the helbore melee with exe up

[analog agate]

EK staff is so good in aurics

[frosty schooner]

700 💪

on to 1000

[dull scroll]

what's the meta blessings for voidblast right now?

[wispy bay]

Flurry + Blazing is a popular option.

[last sleet]

Is there a good place for current meta psyker builds? I only know gameslantern, but most builds have like.. fewer than 50 likes which makes me question how optimized they are.

[patent jacinth]

Shouldn't be

You have like zero crit chance with that

[dull scroll]

it's purge bubble, but voidblast is making its way around right now

[strong gulch]

Nexus + blazing spirit with flak + crit chance

[dull scroll]

the stuff got buffed or something, the charge up time is a lot shorter than I remember

[strong gulch]

Voidblast has wide scaling on charge rate. It needs max. Low stats on the staff make it garbage.

In auric, purg/ infrrno + bubble isn't meta; but in high havocs it is.

[last sleet]

See that's what I mean, Purge bubble has 26 likes on gameslantern.

[patent jacinth]

Gameslantern builds are usually iffy at best

[dull scroll]

what Potato said, I only play in high havocs, in auric you can do whatever and get away with it

[patent jacinth]

The actually good ones don't get attention

[last sleet]

So where do I find decent meta builds?

[patent jacinth]

Here basically

[wispy bay]

Go sleep, you tried to edit twice and still missed it...

[analog agate]

I have started only doing VB staff on havocs.

[strong gulch]

U right, but I would have fecked it up anyways tbh. I got brain fog. 😭

Being tired def makes my typing worse.

Almost failed typing class.

[dull scroll]

I'm questioning the blazing part, is warp fire really a big deal or is it better to have that faster charge blessing

[analog agate]

It is very big

[strong gulch]

On voidblast (trauma) blazing spirit is meta.

[analog agate]

Well, if you are doing a blazing build.

Either do nexus and blazing or rending and flurry

[dull scroll]

reason I ask is guy didn't have blaze and ran up 2mil in my game, which is why I'm giving another look at this staff

*some

[analog agate]

Yeah he probably had rending and flurry

[strong gulch]

Inside the circle is infinite cleave, PLUS the stagger on the outer ring. On a crit, EVERYTHING gets SB (soulblaze stacks).

[analog agate]

I just did 1.8 million on a flurry VB staff today

[strong gulch]

Rending flurry is strong, but not as strong as fire trauma/ voidblast.

[analog agate]

But I have also done that with blazing

[strong gulch]

ye

Pick your favorite flavor tbh.

[analog agate]

I still like blazing more. Unless my team realllly can’t deal with anything cause then I need to stagger like crazy

[strong gulch]

Flurry trauma with a blue stim is silly and fun.

[analog agate]

I finally hit the 100 havocs. I can now just do one a week

[strong gulch]

I still need to do a bunch.

[analog agate]

I spammed so many malice level ones. I am just happy I don’t have to do the same maps. They need to add more to havoc

And I want the assassination ones back

[strong gulch]

They put goloriana, they can give us the others.

Train havoc lmao

[analog agate]

I still haven’t tried it since they nerfed the mini game

[inland ice]

idk how to even start doing havocs bc i have no friends'

[blissful solar]

lfg channels here or make friends with users here

[prime elk]

i've just stopped giving a crap about havoc

[blissful solar]

same. kinda worth it for the sheer diamantine though, unfortunately

[prime elk]

i played it a few times

and got the dia i needed

if fatshart couldn't be bothered to make a proper matchmaker for havoc

then i couldn't be bothered to network with people for havoc

[analog agate]

I wish I could see the people I am requesting to join in party finder

[potent echo]

Fartshard

[strong gulch]

They did?? I haven't played it in ages.

[analog agate]

Yep. Apparently it is really quick now

[blissful solar]

you barely have to do the minigame now, only at the last 70~%

i think

[analog agate]

Thank fuck

[sturdy reef]

hold shift

or tab or something

there is a way to see the current strike team

[analog agate]

REALLY

[sturdy reef]

ya

[analog agate]

damn lol

[summer prairie]

with a mod you can even inspect their setup before you request

[sturdy reef]

yup

[analog agate]

I was just going in blind for 80 or so games haha

[sturdy reef]

I didnt figure it out until later

[maiden oracle]

Me neither I randomly enter hav 40 lfg in both this server and party finder until I win

Simple as that ngl you don’t need to be friends you just need to know your role and have decent teamwork

[sturdy reef]

ya esp now that Havok has been around for a little bit

I think Havok should have seasons with each their own cosmetics and penances

and main modifier

little too barebones right now

[inland ice]

ooh yes live service

lets add a battle pass!

[sturdy reef]

game already has that

just in penances

[young cliff]

can i ask what variatons there are for gun psyker?

bistol?

[sturdy reef]

mk6c recon lasgun and the accatran heavy las pistol are my favs for gunker

[inland ice]

laspistol is so boring

actual han solo gameplay

[young cliff]

i run some weird variant that doesnt use gaze but with bolt pistol and one that works with the R.lasgun how is the HLaspistol is supposed to look?

[inland ice]

bro u need to be running sigmas gaze

sigmas gaze + property in egypt

[verbal thistle]

you dont

[young cliff]

i run the bolt build with vent, basically using it as aoe as i generate peril and then just sustain it high with warp slices, swaping bolt pistol to nuke specialists

but i have not found similar success with Laspistol

[analog agate]

Las pistol is dum dum/infernus and flak/unyielding in a SG and DD build

Melts bosess and can still take out specials and gunners

I use it on my fgs build

[young cliff]

so i just run it on the same build i run recon?

same with the infantry Agun Vraks?

[analog agate]

If it is your scriers build, then yeah

Maybe a node here or there may be different. But I don’t think so

[half turtle]

so i've been thinking of running kinetic deflection purely so i can have an easy way to build peril quickly for shout/toughness regen while 1v1ing chaos spawns

is this a bad idea

i'd probably be trading kinetic resonance or wildfire for it (on a blaze trauma build)

[young cliff]

I take that Gunpsyker don have a shield variant, right?

[upbeat kestrel]

yes

imo agrip infatry gun is better for gunker

[thorn cedar]

i mean its a very good talent regardless

but yes your reasoning for it is ... fabulously ludicrous, i kinda love it

it does build peril while you block but against just one cspawn it would take quite a while to hit high enough peril for a worthwhile quell

[half turtle]

hmm well i never find myself out of stamina for blocking really

[thorn cedar]

you can block a lot. a loooot.

and yea psyker is like that

[half turtle]

mostly right now when i fight spawns i have to like randomly lmb-blast it a bunch to get peril back which sucks even with quell canceling

and is pretty slow and eats a ton of dodges for spacing

anyways i guess i might as well try it and see how it feels

[thorn cedar]

you only need to dodge his grab

[half turtle]

yeah

thankfully ds and knife both go like 30' per dodge so that part is easy at least

[thorn cedar]

ye pretty light on stamina tho

[young cliff]

wait, what autogun should a psyker aim for, infantry or braced?

[upbeat kestrel]

Infatry autogun. Recon lasgun is also a good choice

[minor wedge]

The AMOUNT

of goddamn aurics

teams i am in lose

because people rush like mindless

servitors

is saddening

There is no damn timelimit.... take your goddamn time, people

[jovial juniper]

Infantry because of Finesse

[stark crown]

Not even mentioning our lord and savior Vigilant 🙄

[vagrant onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

Actual image of atoma if brauto had blaze away

[upbeat kestrel]

Actual image of atoma if vigilant autos were good

[proper osprey]

It SUCKS

I hate it soooo much

What’s the best one

[upbeat kestrel]

Graia

Single shot one

[proper osprey]

I figured

[young cliff]

thanks, will keep that in mind

[minor wedge]

Question, what are the go to blesses for the DS4 again?

Forgot to write it down

[vernal frost]

depends

I usually run precog uncanny on spyker

you can also run the crit on dodge one or rarely thrust or agile

rampage if you're a lunatic that wants to horde clear with it

[vernal frost]

agile if you're an ultra sweat

[stark crown]

So yeah the Rashad psyker build I made managed this lmao

[minor wedge]

Not realy

I like to play slow and methodical

Hmm

[vernal frost]

uncanny works on soulblaze

precog is overall busted

[minor wedge]

Noted. Trying that

Ty

[vernal frost]

thrust is usually overkill? unless you want even more boss damage

the crit on dodge is nice

[prime elk]

based and rashad-pilled

[minor wedge]

And probably carapace and unyielding for stats if im running flak maniac on my trauma?

*flak crit

[stark crown]

Outdamaged a trauma psyker somehow

Fuck it we ball I suppose

[vernal frost]

I usually use an 8 ball to decide what perks I'm running so can't help you there sadly

[onyx sentinel]

what's a good gun secondary for havoc 30+ when revolver starts losing its breakpoints?

[vernal frost]

trauma and purg

ah gun

gun...

[hardy coral]

Is it worth running Scriers Gaze with Inferno staff? it seems to be a pain in the ass just getting to 30 stacks only to use it for like 5 seconds or so along with being at 100% Peril and getting the 20% buff from Warp Rider, its not a very sustainable amount of damage.

[vernal frost]

not really tbh but you could run it to boost your melee

[hardy coral]

i tried it with my two handed, it basically takes 5 seconds just to swing the damned thing with Heavy swings.

[vernal frost]

shriek gives your soulblaze more value and bubble would be better as a high havoc option

[hardy coral]

yeah, i run Bubble/Inferno for Havocs. i just wanted to have a fun little Maelstrom build.

[vernal frost]

scriers doesn't really synergise with purgatus cause you don't really get a lot of value from stuff like warp unbound and spamming it

[flat shadow]

Scriers is just terrible for staves

1 trauma blast

Explode anyway

[minor wedge]

So close to clutching a game

then a mauler killed me through a wall

Thanks fartshart

[vernal frost]

wrong..... warp unbound......

[flat shadow]

I hear that it sometimes breaks and you still explode

[vernal frost]

Well other than that

I think there's a mod that tries to prevent it tho unless it got taken down

[hardy coral]

its not too bad, like its quite easy to get 15-25 stacks just doing the usually thing with Inferno staff. i kinda wish there was a Thermo staff though that would Freeze/slow enemies along with add Brittleness.

[vernal frost]

beam staff....

bolt staff....

[quartz barn]

Consecration before nerfs....

[potent echo]

Beam staff ahhhh

If I scream about it now I'll get it next year

[hardy coral]

ill admit though, doing 400-500 damage a tick on a Mauler with Inferno staff is kinda amusing.

[vernal frost]

https://github.com/Kevinna01/WarpGod