psyker-class

[patent mango]

imagine bb true aim lol

[thorn cedar]

I see this all the time but the result will just be "wow i spent thirty seconds charging a BB on that crusher just for my dickhead teammate to toss a krak at it"

[patent mango]

i pushed the definition of ish a little maybe

[thorn cedar]

man BB used to get two true aim stacks per charge

[sturdy reef]

BB still sucks

[thorn cedar]

bring that back at least lol

[deft stump]

100, actually. 150 if EP.

[fathom adder]

That's why you wouldn't BB a Crusher without something to speed things along. Or again, making it a dot effect

[patent mango]

what was their idea making the enemy literally glow

the avg vet will see that and think SPECIAL WEAKSPOT TARGETED

[sturdy reef]

so you know what enemy ur targeting

[patent mango]

oh i mean to teammates

[sturdy reef]

BB just needs to be faster

oh

BB needs to be faster and it should crit

[patent mango]

obviously psyker should see it glow

[sturdy reef]

make EP BB base BB

[fathom adder]

Target designator, like Krak grenades

[patent mango]

wait actually

[sturdy reef]

just w/o the 0% peril gen

[patent mango]

what if we actually had smth that put a special w eakspot on enemies

to do extra dmg to

[sturdy reef]

you are thinking of something like sonar from warframe

?

[patent mango]

uh

remnant 2 has a drill u put on enemies

u shoot that and do big damig

[sturdy reef]

ya

same principle

[deft stump]

Has use, makes the vet shoot at the thing they should be, RIGHT?

[patent mango]

remnant 2 is so fun when it stops stuttering for 3 seconds in a row

[deft stump]

Like using a red laser to herd cats.

[patent mango]

which never happens because its remnant 2

[upper sun]

dog shit game

[hearty wolf]

Slaughtered everything

yw

[upper sun]

nothing happened

[hearty wolf]

I go poo now

[patent mango]

ok ok peak idea

1. remove enemy glow visuals for other players
2. new brainburst talent, enables glow for other players on specific spot of enemy to shoot at and do massive dmg for like 2s 🔥 (with a cd)

[hearty wolf]

I could have broke 10 bosses if I played better

[blissful solar]

boss damage cxarried u let's be honest

[hearty wolf]

I did more boss damage

than lesser damage

[upper sun]

game didnt spawn any bosses

i had one game where we got 7 in the first room 🚬

[hearty wolf]

mad cos I won :(

[calm sapphire]

Make bb into forcechoke so u can stunlock bosses

[upper sun]

okie i hunggie too

[blissful solar]

it wasnt a competition girlie, i just want to play with people

[upper sun]

i go eat as well

[hearty wolf]

ikik

[blissful solar]

gg

[hearty wolf]

If I was going serious on a maelstrom, I'd probs bring relic blade

[deft stump]

I mean, pew.

[hearty wolf]

I'm also running crit on hammer which is somewhat questionable to some

[thorn cedar]

elara wins cause they blocked the most

[blissful solar]

weakspot rate tho

[deft stump]

Is always a competition with them. They all like me cos I barely do any damage.

[blissful solar]

your entire life with thunderhammer is weakspot rate and yet my combat axe won

[hearty wolf]

Back shots for bosses that ran away

[blissful solar]

same

[hearty wolf]

I had to sacrifice the weakspot for them unfortunately

[thorn cedar]

i assume rate is a % despite it not saying so

[blissful solar]

that's why my percentage wasnt even higher

im being sarcastic btw

maybe

[hearty wolf]

ya rates are %

60% is really fucking good though

Much better than the average player

[blissful solar]

my ping was 180 also so many enemies that were alive were no longer alive when i hit them

[thorn cedar]

14 blocks in a match puts you in the top 1%

[hearty wolf]

I tend to block a decent amount with thammer to compensate for the charge up

[hearty wolf]

o right yea, where you from :o

[blissful solar]

us west

[deft stump]

Totally fun getting hit by things already dead, right?

[hearty wolf]

ah right

[blissful solar]

i didnt notice much of that luckily, but if i played for much more time i probably would. it seemed like it was in slow motion

[hearty wolf]

We can try doing NA east for a nice compromise

[formal sedge]

Any build recommendations?

[deft stump]

It's funnier on higher. I usually get 260-380 playing.

[blissful solar]

i thought 60-70 was a little bad

[calm sapphire]

On havoc or Auric

[blissful solar]

i would say ill never complain about my 60-70 ping again but i definitely will

[fathom adder]

Disrupt Destiny 2: Puts a highlight on the target, all players gain bonuses against it (Rending and Finesse would make the most thematic sense but the game really doesn't need more of either) and you control its placement. Incentivize people to not steal your DD kills lmao.

[hearty wolf]

Well.

The point I was trying to make was that I prefer games where content is released and then a price tag is added for a substantial amount of content.

I don't like mtx as a model. If it's cosmetics only - I'm still against it. But if they insist, I would accept it if there was alternative cosmetics of somewhat decent quality that could be obtained by gameplay

And interesting, didn't know the store was that well off

[deft stump]

Heh. there's no good compromise so I just deal with it generally. they can carry me anyway.

[blissful solar]

have you ever posted your matchmaking region page? what are the pings you see to all the servers?

[patent mango]

finesse
instantly meta somehow

[formal sedge]

Auric

[hearty wolf]

I never got the dlc

[patent mango]

dont

[hearty wolf]

What pissed me off with Remnant

[deft stump]

I'm in Asia pacific. 9-11 ping. Is why I get potato'd so much more when i join them after a week of low ping gaming, lul.

[hearty wolf]

Was

Well

[patent mango]

melee in remnant 2 is terrible a lot of bosses fly and performance is inexcusable

[hearty wolf]

Remnant 2 in particular has probably the most garbage first areas

But also the amount of anymore without a weakpoint

just

[deft stump]

You go from being able to near impact dodge muties to.. half the map away press dodge or you get hit.

[hearty wolf]

Bothers me so much

[quartz barn]

the first dlc was good

[patent mango]

first was good

[quartz barn]

second and third not so much

[patent mango]

had a non flying final boss!!!!!!!!!!! 🔥 game design!!!!!!

then 2nd and 3rd no fun allowed

[quartz barn]

altough the boss from the third dlc is cool

[hearty wolf]

Oh there's three of them now

[quartz barn]

why focus on melee bosses tho

[patent mango]

i play melee

[hearty wolf]

If they all go on sale, I'll consider it

[thorn cedar]

I mostly just don't care about the quality of cosmetics as a baseline. I'm here for the gameplay, not the drip. Dressing up can be fun (Bloodborne comes to mind) but if it plays like a bunch of busted assholes then no amount of good skins is going to save the game for me.

VT2 had all of its additional content paywalled and it was a pain in the ass. Yeah, you could host the game yourself and get your friends into a DLC map but they still wouldn't be able to join a DLC game otherwise so their matchmaking options become more limited the longer the game exists.

[hearty wolf]

Good gameplay should be a given. Some games just seem to think it's optional xd

[thorn cedar]

The monetary return on skins is pretty high. It's not that every skin outsells or brings in a higher return than the entire game as a product does, but when you compare development time, it's very smart to move your monetization model to what takes the least amount of time with the highest returns and then proffer the benefits to the rest of the community.

[patent mango]

500 flying bosses 0 fun for all of them

[deft stump]

Look, bloodborne outfits just make kitteh uhhhh... yes. You can't compare, kay?

[thorn cedar]

Like I bought DarkTide for forty bucks on launch. I have had no reason to ever pay another dime since then and we have had all this extra content for free.

I still bought skins anyway because FatShark has stolen 6,000hrs of my life at this point and they have saved me way more money by virtue of not buying other games anymore lmao

[hearty wolf]

I understand that

[quartz barn]

ye i always decide based on time spent vs money spent

[hearty wolf]

I kind of abuse that ratio

[deft stump]

Look, you can't look at Lady Maria and tell me you don't like her outfit!!!

[hearty wolf]

Warframe is a good game to bring into this context whenever we talk about monotisation models. Free updates and it's basically community funded.

It's absolutely absurd.

[fathom adder]

A cosmetics store is extremely low-effort money, even if only a fraction of the player base is buying cosmetics at 5-10% the cost of the base game every month or so, they're still making money hand over fist with it

[thorn cedar]

I make the Warframe dudes their coffees.

[hearty wolf]

I wish I liked Warframe more.

[thorn cedar]

Same, I never liked it lmao

[hearty wolf]

The thing I liked most about it was the story tbh and that took awhile to get going

[patent mango]

wf gameplay is pretty eepy

[hearty wolf]

It's just ctrl+shift+1+2+3+4 spam

It's not the most thrilling

[patent mango]

mines just holding e

🔥

[thorn cedar]

The biggest turn off for me is the UI

what in the absolute fuck is all this shit on the screen

[hearty wolf]

xD

That's fair

[patent mango]

idk

[weary idol]

crouch, roll, all abilities?

[hearty wolf]

Oh and space

And right click

go fast

[thorn cedar]

then i come over to darktide and people are modding more noise onto their screen

it confuses me

[weary idol]

surely you can spare an E press in there for your ailing melee weapon

[hearty wolf]

I have a friend who I used to play with and that also somewhat ruined the experience I guess

[patent mango]

🔥 6 billion ui elements

[hearty wolf]

Since he was giga busted and could do any content

There was no reason I should do it myself

[weary idol]

I have a single additional buff bar so fatshark will stop hiding my disrupt destiny and scriers gaze stacks from me

[hearty wolf]

But like, what I was skipping wasn't that substantial? Credit farming for example. Not exactly the most thrilling thing.

[blissful solar]

maybe weakspot rate is one of the best stats to try and get up to get your general skill up

[hearty wolf]

Not ever being disabled is the other one

[thorn cedar]

its like the only stat i wish they would put up

[hearty wolf]

I got netted through the wall. I was even thinking that it would but I wanted the trapper kill :(

[blissful solar]

damage taken, weakspot rate, disableds, and damage to some extent to jsut know your impact in the game (adjusted for build)

[hearty wolf]

Game needs to be harder

h200 when

Instead of horde waves, boss waves

Then moebian 22nd waves

all crapace poxwalkers

[long osprey]

Do the showstopper blessing still trigger perilous combustion talent?

When enemies die

[thorn cedar]

showstopper ... from the flamethrower on zealot? >.>

[long osprey]

From flame staff on psyker

[thorn cedar]

oh i had no fucken idea we got it on purgatus

yea it would still apply

its just an effect applied when they die, same as PC

[jovial juniper]

Added at UnL

[fathom adder]

I mean, it's kinda unknown still because it was notoriously dogshit on the Zealot Flamer

[thorn cedar]

its still pretty bad in terms of opportunity cost

[fathom adder]

Haven't heard any different about it on Inferno staff

[thorn cedar]

especially on purgatus, idk why you would run it over blaze/nexus/w/e

[patent mango]

wrath on purgatus

[long osprey]

For havoc when there are a lot of enemies stacked that take a lot of dots to kill like maulers

They can get one shot

I feel like it should be 30% chance on trigger instead of 20%

[thorn cedar]

"The explosion spawns on the center mass hitzone of the killed enemy, has a radius of 3m (Flamer) or 4m (Inferno Staff), below average armor damage modifiers, deals decent stagger and 400 base damage (Flamer) or 240 base damage (Inferno Staff) which decreases from center to max range. Explosion damage can be increased by 'rending' / 'brittleness', by damage buffs (talents, blessings, weapon perks, debuffs) and power level buffs (e.g. Blaze Away)."

thats significantly less damage than PC would already do

[weary idol]

240 damage doesn't even kill a fuckin' poxwalker man

why is fatshark like this

[patent mango]

cool effect
slop

keeps happening

[fathom adder]

And they have to die of a dot tick, not simply to die while on fire, which means if anything it would actually interfere with itself

[weary idol]

every cool effect is just destroyed by dogshit numbers, or extremely stupid design decisions

power maul double explosion

relic blade explosion at max heat

[patent mango]

charged strike doing literally like 2 damage

[weary idol]

every single block related blessing in the game

[marble crater]

Why does it need to kill a poxwalker? You were already blasting them with the purgatus as well

[weary idol]

and then there's shit like uncanny strike and slaughterer that are super basic "deal more damage by dealing damage" effects and their numbers are huge

[patent mango]

kinetic flayer is unironically like the only usable cool effect

[fathom adder]

I seem to recall Fatshark's lead combat designer struggling at like Champion difficulty in VT2

Plus the other usual suspects of:

• Old dead engine full of spaghetti
• Dev who makes a talent doesn't know how things stack because nothing is consistent (it was inconsistent from the start, and some things deliberately changed e.g. from additive to multiplicative stacking during balance passes)
• RNG-laden gear system (which was only recently pared back) requires that good things must be rare, which in turn requires that most things must be shit
• Possibly Ivory Tower Game Design (some options are purposely made better than others in order to "reward system mastery") but I doubt this is deliberately done anymore, if it ever really was

[fathom adder]

And even that gets shitcanned when you realize it caused a pox burster to blow up in your face when you only pushed it

[patent mango]

peak

[weary idol]

I mean empowered psionics assail is a fun one

use that with warp splitting and a warp built scriers gaze

300% cleave assail

kill many thing

[marble crater]

Doesn't trigger if you only push it, triggers if you push attack it

[fathom adder]

I remember before the talent update it was called Kinetic Cope because it was the only way you'd actually be Brain Bursting fast enough to build and maintain Warp Charge

[patent mango]

copium

[torn kernel]

holy shit

[radiant frigate]

powerful

[fathom adder]

I guess it's only force sword pushes, but still

[radiant frigate]

push attacks but yes

[weary idol]

force sword push attack does one damage

[fathom adder]

Let the burnination flow through you

[torn kernel]

[marble crater]

Force sword push also doesn't trigger it

[fathom adder]

Force Sword push counts as a warp attack doesn't it

[marble crater]

The push attack, yes

[fathom adder]

Could have sworn the initial push did too

[strong gulch]

Push no

Push attack yes (only builds peril if it connects)

[blissful solar]

is the force sword push attack the worst push attack in the game?

[patent mango]

no

[weary idol]

not by a long shot

[blissful solar]

is it good stagger i guess?

[weary idol]

it knocks down crushers and opens bulwark shields

[thorn cedar]

its arguably one of the best

[jovial juniper]

With a 9 meters range

[deft stump]

I think that's only for FGS. I swear it still increases my peril when nothing is hit on normal fs.

[marble crater]

Great range, can apply uncanny stacks, unless that was fixed?

[fathom adder]

Deimos and Mk8 FGS push attacks also lead into very strong heavy thrusts. Don't recall offhand what Illisi or Mk6 FGS do

[thorn cedar]

nothing special

[weary idol]

MK6 isn't anything special because it just gets the strong thrust in its normal combo

anyways my vote for worst push attack in the game is ogryn power maul

[fathom adder]

Nothing quite like using the Deimos push attack and Heavy 1 follow-up to absolutely bully a Crusher or Bulwark

[silver mantle]

You dont just special oneshot them?

[upper sun]

the deimos special now is so comfy :#

they changed it u know

[patent mango]

fr??

[marble crater]

You don't get stuck anymore?

[patent mango]

does it do even less damage

[upper sun]

no

they made it slightly faster

[marble crater]

Blocked

[upper sun]

and now it has different animations for which attack you're doing

[patent mango]

is that fr

[upper sun]

yes

[thorn cedar]

more importantly you can cancel out of it with a dodge

that was added a while ago now

you arent actually forced to commit to the entire thing anymore

[weary idol]

did chainaxe get the same thing or did it always do that

[hearty wolf]

Good morning

[strong gulch]

They were changed at the same time

[hearty wolf]

Vermintide

[strong gulch]

Still in bed, but waking up.

Getting out of bed will be tricky. There's a cat on either side of me.

[deft stump]

HRM?

Are you saying you sleep with your phone?

[hearty wolf]

Damn

Flanked

I been playing

It's okay

Installed many mod

[strong gulch]

Is there a mod that gives us running and dodge slides? 😭

[marble crater]

The Darktide mod

[deft stump]

I know they did it in payday 2.

[hearty wolf]

You walk strangely fast

Shuffle

Shuffle shuffle

[deft stump]

https://modworkshop.net/mod/47919

Yes, my Payday 2 is equally cancer like my L4D2.

[inland ice]

how does this happen

why devs bad at own games

[jovial juniper]

At Orthus Offensive iirc

Same day they removed sawing barrels

[thorn cedar]

oh yea sawing barrels lmao

good times

[fathom adder]

Charitably, I would say less time playing video games and more time learning linear algebra and whatnot

[inland ice]

doubt

[deft stump]

I mean, I can play on sedation sedition, is gud enough. Higher diffs is just more enemies and stronger enemies, RIGHT?

[marble crater]

Devs don't need to be good at the games, that's why we have play testers

[fathom adder]

Less charitably, "combat designer", "balance designer" etc. is likely not a position that actually exists off-camera, let alone outside of the extremely small fraction of company man-hours that are devoted to balancing an already-released game.

[strong gulch]

It's so funny tho. Devs are gloriously not even mid at their own games.

I was watching the Valheim devs play their own game... and lol

[marble crater]

Why are the Formula 1 mechanics bad at racing?

[upper sun]

F1 is a sport

also if the mechanics put in as many hours as we did they would at least be able to do a lap

[fathom adder]

Better analogy would be the engineers designing the cars not knowing in much detail how the driver makes the car go fast enough to win

[upper sun]

fatshrk devs cant do a lap 😭

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf Brain is slowly waking up.

[hearty wolf]

yesyes

[deft stump]

Have sugar, go nyoom, yesyes.

[crude cape]

is penetrating flame in high havoc for inferno staff worth it ever, or nah warp nexus/blaze away just still best? I know zealots sometimes run their version of it on flamer in high havoc, best to leave it to them?

if you do run it, which blessing do you replace, warp nexus im guessing?

[marble crater]

Point is they require different skills, even if they understood everything about the cars or the game, it doesn't help them if they are simply not great at driving a car or playing a game.
You could understand everything about a shooter, but if you can't aim then you won't win.

[marble crater]

Nexus and Blaze Away, always

[crude cape]

ok, i knew zealots run their version sometimes so wondered if i knew someone was, if stacking 2 effects of it is worth

but ill stick to those two

[sturdy reef]

martyrdom is starting to grow on me

I like the AS buff a lot

[jovial juniper]

Just stat check every enemy

Simple as

[strong gulch]

Setting up keybindings 😵‍💫

[hearty wolf]

:)

[sturdy reef]

why just have crit and toughness DR and regen when I can have Damage and AS?

just damage check enemies

[upper sun]

marty also gives a lot of tdr

[sturdy reef]

ya

it also feels like Im playing something a little diff compared to other classes

has more flavor imo

I still do infectious zeal/beacon setup for H40 though

[prime elk]

honestly the most f un way to play zealot

when your attack speed becomes so high the animation isn't even visible anymore

then you know you're playing it right

[fathom adder]

My point was that the designers likely don't actually understand much about the game given both facts of them struggling to play at middling difficulty and making highly questionable balancing decisions, of the kind that shouldn't sneak through even if they were only familiar with the theory involved.

The engineer designing the car in this analogy doesn't need to be able to win races against professional drivers, but he (and thus his design, and the people driving it) are certainly at a disadvantage if he can't even drive an F1 car around the track, and is unfamiliar with the entire affair beyond mechanical engineering itself, the basic physics involved, and driving his automatic sedan around town.

[marble crater]

Marty knife build?

[sturdy reef]

I like it with relic blade

makes use of disdain/sustained assault/punishment really well

[fathom adder]

But then, like I also said, they hire programmers who can sorta play the game, they aren't going to hire a self-styled designer who is great at video games and who can only sorta code

[patent mango]

40k beta testers to fix stuff

[prime elk]

could be good, i've been using it with tac axe though

[sturdy reef]

I should play with the tac axe more

I feel like its gonna get buffed moveset wise

just intuition

[patent mango]

stop leaking updates

[sturdy reef]

[marble crater]

I agree that they should understand the theory, I just think that devs can be great at their job without being great at actually playing the game. That's what the play testers are for.

[patent mango]

i think a major issue is they do changes with future updates in mind we dont know

(ogryn rework copium)

[marble crater]

Entire tree is just one talent soon

[fathom adder]

I think it's much more likely given their history that they leave a skeleton crew to provide continued support for released games and then move everyone else on to the console port or the next project, and the few people actually working on Darktide spend too much time fixing (and re-fixing) bugs, making new maps, etc. to be able to pay much attention to balance

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf No mods, but a n atempt at keybinds was made.

[hearty wolf]

kk

Is time to game then

[fathom adder]

Whether they are getting and listening to feedback or not

[hearty wolf]

Anyone else for Vermintide?

[strong gulch]

https://discord.gg/ruvVnUM4

[crude cape]

If i wanted to use knife for melee saftey over dueling sword in high havoc

what blessings do you guys reccomend (bubble, inferno shield havoc meta build)

since i dont really want to sit in melee, is Agile worth it?

or nah just run uncanny/reposte call it a day

oh knife doesnt get agile does it idk what im thinking

thats only ds

[fathom adder]

I was about to say

[nocturne dust]

imagine playing vermintide

[hearty wolf]

it's something new by being old

[crude cape]

i was just making sure you were paying attention

what about on DS? any reason to run like uncanny/agile just for saftey or is reposte, precog etc strictly better in the situations you want to melee?

and is uncanny/reposte correct on knife still then?

[marble crater]

I would use uncanny riposte on both

[patent mango]

when do they make enemies have better ways to deal with high mobility weps

give crusher a leap attack

[marble crater]

You shouldn't need to dodge enough to need agile, something went very wrong then

[hearty wolf]

gapclosing crushers

[marble crater]

Crusher ogryn charge

[patent mango]

rager detects ur too far and beocmes mutie

[frosty schooner]

BEHOLD

before it was rare evil puppy at 666

now its rare slaneesh puppy at 669 😈

[nocturne dust]

[fathom adder]

I always said Agile (or infinite dodge in general, like the Force Swords used to have) teaches you bad habits and takes a blessing slot that could be used for more offense. Stayed away from it myself.

But now I'm using Deflector in Havoc and even Aurics now, so I haven't got a leg to stand on 🤷‍♂️

[crude cape]

what perks you like? I was thinking flak for general clear, and maybe carapace to help when you're pressed by crushers etc the flame staff couldn't hold back?
or unyielding for boss dueling if forced?
Maniac seems good bc i often pull melee out for mutants

just havent played psyker in a while

[deft stump]

FotF marty knoife is fun. Heh.

[marble crater]

I use DS4 with maniac and carapace, because I only really use it for muties and crushers

[crude cape]

ya, thats usually what i run but wanted to swap it up with knife

figure maniac carapace is good

but i can see flak also being wanted

[marble crater]

I don't melee bosses a lot, because I don't want to get hit, so no unyielding. I prefer to take care of the trash specials that try to sneak up on the team while they do boss damage

[nocturne dust]

the bulwarks and reapers about to teach you a lesson in respect

[marble crater]

Most everything that's flak will get burned by your staff

[marble crater]

I either burn them or explode them

[nocturne dust]

[deft stump]

BOOM?

[nocturne dust]

I use maniac and carapace when paired with inferno, yeah

[marble crater]

I have unyielding on my staff to make up for it

[crude cape]

true

whats the logic in dumping warp resist on the staff, btw

quick quell + stay high warp easily for more dmg?

[nocturne dust]

warp resist does nothing is the answer

[marble crater]

It's the least impactful stat

[crude cape]

ah

[nocturne dust]

warp resist has ridiculously bad scaling

[crude cape]

my biggest issue with the build so far, is im so used to my old psyker build with vent

i find myself overloading when its hot

[nocturne dust]

There's a reason it's the dump of every weapon it's on except 1

[crude cape]

bc my muscle memory thinks i have vent to save myself and i keep blasting

[nocturne dust]

and even then, only because Voidstrike's blast radius stat is somehow even less useful 💀

[marble crater]

Are you using battle meditation and empyric resolve?

[crude cape]

no to second

unsure on first

no to both

[deft stump]

HRMPH.

[crude cape]

using this rn

[nocturne dust]

This is why I never used vent like that except on accident

[crude cape]

i was bad, i ALWAYS overloaded

[sturdy reef]

penetration of the soul is bugged and does nothing rn

[marble crater]

Should use both in havoc, battle meditation isn't affected by the quell penalty and you are the one who kills most enemies during hordes

[crude cape]

it became muscle memory lol

[nocturne dust]

It's like bubble. If you can't handle the peril without vent, you don't deserve vent

[upper sun]

EE is a bit redundant with bubble

[nocturne dust]

yep, that's the problem

[upper sun]

id take crit chance instead

[crude cape]

ah ok, ill swap it next time

[sturdy reef]

I like EE and bubble

[marble crater]

And maybe I should mention that I run full health curios, so I don't care about the toughness damage reduction at peril

[crude cape]

ngl i missed kinetic deflection not having it too

[marble crater]

This is my inferno for havoc

[sturdy reef]

I think you can drop the first warp charge mod for more crit tho

[upper sun]

also instead of harvest id dtake the other BB upgrade

[sturdy reef]

the toughness you get from it isnt that great

[deft stump]

Joke is, I'm on my FGS with deflector and forgot I'm on a build without KD. 14 stam bars go!

[round gull]

Hi guys what do you recommed for single target damage?

Void/Electro Staff or Deimos sword?

[nocturne dust]

Psyker doesn't have great single target damage if you want something on the level of bosses

Deimos and DS4 are your best melee options (or FGS), or you can use EK/Inferno for ranged options against bosses

[marble crater]

Depends on what you want to play? If you want to play elektro and voidstrike then those, if you play inferno or blast then deimos or DS4

[round gull]

I want to use something with BB

[nocturne dust]

BB isn't great, but if you want to use it, its main purpose is single target

[round gull]

yeah,but as I was using it was as my main weapon

[maiden oracle]

When I used it ek was pretty good for single target but I would rather just stab shit with dueling sword or force greatsword

[round gull]

I want to prove using it less frecuently

[round gull]

oh thanks

[deft stump]

Guy basically wants to upgrade from only BB spamming.

[thorn cedar]

ive only really got BB on two builds, trauma and purg staves

[round gull]

Many people use dueling sword

[marble crater]

I use this for Elektro staff

[nocturne dust]

Inferno + BB is the classic choice

[round gull]

thanks

[thorn cedar]

otherwise everything else handles BB's niche or the tree gives me better bonuses for the rest of my kit by not taking BB

[marble crater]

Change one talent and suddenly it's a voidblast build

[round gull]

and which sword would be good?

[nocturne dust]

DS4 or Deimos. DS4 is the more meta choice.

[marble crater]

Gotta go fast

[round gull]

oh thanks for the build

[deft stump]

IS SOMEONE SAYING TO DUMP PENETRATION AND USE DS5?

[round gull]

I see,thanks ^^

[last shore]

If you want deflector which can be useful as solo psyker in havoc, force sword is good

[nocturne dust]

no

that's not even fast

[marble crater]

That someone already dodged off the ledge

[nocturne dust]

use knife for fast

[deft stump]

Look, I know. Is just... INF dodge to side crabwalk dodge off the map.

[round gull]

What about the blessings?

I wanna use deflector

[deft stump]

Like that.

[nocturne dust]

uncanny

is your priority for single target

[round gull]

thanks ^^

[marble crater]

Growing new psykers one at a time

[round gull]

I'm very bad at the blessings stuff

lmao

[patent mango]

blessings are usually very very easy to choose lmao (once you know whats actually worth using)

warp nexus for example is peak

[nocturne dust]

It's okay, the game tells you so little it only takes testing each and every single one in every combination with talents and perks in multiple scenarios to decide

[patent mango]

at least fgs has actual choice

[nocturne dust]

Warp Nexus is actually normally just second best

[patent mango]

tho i just use the most common lmao

[patent mango]

is top flurry or smth

[marble crater]

You are second best

[nocturne dust]

For example, Inferno's best is Blaze Away, Voidstrike's is surge

[nocturne dust]

for EK, yes

[patent mango]

i mean yea i didnt mention the uniques

[nocturne dust]

and Trauma really only wants nexus because of Blazing Spirit

[patent mango]

surge is fire on voidstrike

[broken carbon]

was it fixed for ek ?

[nocturne dust]

none of those are unique

[nocturne dust]

yes

[broken carbon]

ohg pawesome

[nocturne dust]

except Blaze Away

[patent mango]

unique enough 2 me....

[nocturne dust]

Blaze Away is unique

well, to staves

[patent mango]

i dont think even that one is 100% unique

[marble crater]

EK is fast again now, feels so nice

[nocturne dust]

it's not unique if you include flamer

[patent mango]

lmao

[broken carbon]

and

uhhmm

shredder

[marble crater]

stubbers

[patent mango]

uhmmm fire sword i think

[broken carbon]

stubbers

there’s another

uhh

[patent mango]

fire greatsword

[marble crater]

kickback

[nocturne dust]

I think my favorite nonsense is double flame DoTs with flamer and inferno

[patent mango]

epic plan for epic win:

1. red skin for fgs (like those docket skins)
2. make blazing spirit spread fire on crit

[nocturne dust]

make Blazing Spirit spread fire on hit

and also work on ranged slice

[patent mango]

i doubt that'd make the game explode

[nocturne dust]

I mean

[patent mango]

when inferno exists

[nocturne dust]

It'd be no worse than other builds, yeah

[patent mango]

doesnt even need to apply to wave imo

@marble crater 🤓

[nocturne dust]

Eeeeehhhh

Kinda does

[broken carbon]

applying to wave wouldn’t really even change much

[nocturne dust]

Its only use would be, like, boss damage otherwise

[patent mango]

ik fatshark is scared of wave fire lmao

[nocturne dust]

Cowards

[broken carbon]

well aside from like

[nocturne dust]

[broken carbon]

inferno build

but that’d only be for a full fire build

which is already extremely strong

[nocturne dust]

Make Blazing Spirit apply on hit and with ranged slice, and make Warp Slice allow you to gain charge passively/hold charge

then full fire build with Inferno + FGS

[patent mango]

idek if that'd be strong or not

since fgs is a lil goofed on staff builds

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Blazing Spirit's cap is lower than Inferno anyway

soooooo

[patent mango]

true true

[nocturne dust]

if you have Inferno

it's 🤷‍♂️

[patent mango]

i kinda just want blazing spirit greatsword for uh y'know

sienna 🔥 🔥

not that sienna ever got a gs

https://tenor.com/bPmVP.gif

[nocturne dust]

Give me a beam staff that can go above global stack cap

Let me delete bosses with pure stack madness

[patent mango]

madness staff

[nocturne dust]

yeah but she has a scythe

[patent mango]

that is true true

clearly we need a force scythe

[deft stump]

Reaping souls.

[marble crater]

We need a force version of most melee weapons, all psyker exclusive, get rid of the normal melee weapons for all I care

[deft stump]

Force knoife.

GIB.

[nocturne dust]

Would not be opposed

I like knife for staff positioning

[elder glade]

I would take a force knife

[fathom adder]

Make it one of those wavy sacrificial daggers, definitely not heretical

[scarlet umbra]

Not sure where else I’d ask, but as a solo player, did anyone have tips for the cliffhanger penance? Aside from just hoping?

[patent mango]

coping and hoping

[deft stump]

The push atk not just being a push, but a thrust attack that also pushes?

[marble crater]

If you have time right now we can do it

[deft stump]

HEH.

[scarlet umbra]

c,:

[scarlet umbra]

Man I’d legit go on a whole penance crusade right now, get a bunch done with a stack of 4 or something

[frosty schooner]

GREATSWORD ONLY

i shot 3 bolt pistol bullets 😭

[marble crater]

For this one we just need us two, and I don't have time for a full crusade I will start the game

[frosty schooner]

SIBLINGS! 💪

[scarlet umbra]

You’re far too kind. Have an apple. 🍏

[marble crater]

Do you know how to find your code for invites?

[scarlet umbra]

👍

[vernal temple]

oof, just did an h40 in metalfab and somehow survived a crusher chop at the end event. I guess yellow toughness can save from that?

Thankfully we've completed the mission

[thorn cedar]

yellow toughness negates all bleedthrough effects

you only need one yellow toughness to do it

[vernal temple]

Good to know. But man, mission was super stressful as I was the only psyker

Two zealots and a vet along with ne

[deft stump]

Isn't that a ton of gold toughness?

[elder glade]

If it's the correct set up, that's anywhere between 1 to 3 sources of gold toughness right there.

[hearty wolf]

0*

[elder glade]

Yes, I should've put "0" instead of "1". But given the context there was at least one source.

[patent mango]

mayb they should both nerf gunners and gold toughness

but idk

[sturdy reef]

100% agree

But also show some love to the other vet abilities. Just a little bit

[weary idol]

how

[sturdy reef]

Let ES automatically reload

Reduce infiltrate cd by 5 seconds

The ES modifiers are also pretty shit

There is no reason to take the ally highlight modifier because its only 5 seconds and ES is inherently greedy. You dont want allies to steal kills that could extend ES

The other two ES modifiers can easily be ignored since they dont do much. The highlight all human ranged is okay since you can extend ES for a long time.

[strong gulch]

Doing a bit of VT2. Haven't played in a long time. There are so few spawns. Darktidepilled

[hearty wolf]

@quiet inlet @strong gulch

[patent mango]

at the very least this mod is in dt

[hearty wolf]

That's kinda annoying tbh

Cos now I'll never know how much better I got

Cos holy shit is it so easy xd

[strong gulch]

It was like T3 or low in T4 but not remembering the maps.

[vernal temple]

Yes it is, but when your bubble is still on cooldown and you're pinned from all directions it's kinda not very enjoyable for you and the whole team

[deft stump]

To be fair, 6 sec duration bubble is just that.

[deft stump]

Are you playing at least legend?

[hearty wolf]

We were doing cata

It's

Literal baby mode

like

Literally t3 difficulty

[strong gulch]

We did legend as a warm up and then cata.

[deft stump]

I mean, when you get used to packs on packs of crushers...

[hearty wolf]

You could solo it

[deft stump]

That's just cata.

LUL.

[hearty wolf]

The hordes are

You can't even call them hordes

Like the density of a t2 horde

but they hit a bit hard

[deft stump]

So 5 enemies?

[hearty wolf]

fr that's what it felt like at times

I'm shook

[weary idol]

2 scab rager monstrosity spawn

[strong gulch]

I used to be able to solo legend and didn't really get into cata.

I 70% forgot how to play this game, and we just bumbled through. I was just standing around for large parts of the missions/

[deft stump]

Well, that's what Havoc does to yah, I guess, lul.

other than brute conscripts.

[hearty wolf]

I thought vt2 was way harder tho

[strong gulch]

That was my thought. Turns out we just used to suck and got better. lmao

[hearty wolf]

Tide vets aren't as good as I thought they were I guess xd

[nocturne dust]

it was

[hearty wolf]

Maybe this is a dream

[nocturne dust]

I believe it got powercreeped

[strong gulch]

yes it did

still tho

[hearty wolf]

That's probably the case

[nocturne dust]

but I only heard that, I haven't played in a long while

[hearty wolf]

we were all on the new careers

[nocturne dust]

You should've seen unnerfed Javelin

[strong gulch]

All of the newer careers are powercreep, but still

[hearty wolf]

we try cata Fortunes of War next time

and maybe give weaves and chaos wastes a go

see how stuff has changed

[weary idol]

that's crazy so if I go onto my WHC and press F and kill 30 stormvermin in 5 seconds that career got power crept?

[strong gulch]

that communion map is easier too

[hearty wolf]

Point is

Current iteration of game

v.easy

The fact dodges are separates from your stamina too?

It's ludicrous

[long wharf]

siblings, do you dump warp res or defence for force greatswords?

[hearty wolf]

wr

[prime elk]

dumping warp res is actively helpful on the fgs

if you can get it below 60, even better

[patent mango]

wr

[long wharf]

what's the soulblaze stack cap for Blazing Spirit?

12?

[nocturne dust]

6 on staff, 12 on melee iirc

[long wharf]

16 on staff, I believe

[nocturne dust]

no, inferno is 15 with 16 on a crit on the last hit that still decays to 15

but it doesn't have the Blazing Spirit blessing

I'm talking about Trauma

[long wharf]

I'm wondering if blazing spirit greatsword is worth playing with

[nocturne dust]

Nope

Blazing Spirit is only useful on Trauma

[long wharf]

what a waste.

[fringe garden]

It's a trap

It exists to make us dream about fire swords and what they would be like

[wispy bay]

Blazing spirit kind of work on Force sword if you try hard enough.

[long wharf]

so most people run unstable power + riposte, I imagine?

[nocturne dust]

wrath + something

FGS has low cleave

[long wharf]

... of course it does.

[nocturne dust]

unstable power/riposte/shred

[fringe garden]

I do unstable shred and warp splitting

[nocturne dust]

Its cleave is fine if you also have warp splitting, yeah

at least outside of Havoc

[fringe garden]

you can interchange splitting with wrath

[vernal temple]

hmmm, now I kinda wonder, wouldn't the "LMB surge staff spam build" make more sence with a Voidstrike staff instead? Since you're using the Surge blessing and have a high crit chance, those charged double orbs would be more convenient that shooting lightning when you need to RMB, no?

[nocturne dust]

no

[vernal temple]

y tho

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike RMB is slower

by a lot

and EK has a crit stat

which means its lmb is stronger

[vernal temple]

ah, I didn't know about that

so it's default crit chance is higher?

is that what you mean?

[nocturne dust]

more crit chance and more crit dmg

[long wharf]

what about a tanky setup with Deflector+Momentum

[fringe garden]

viable if you take warp splitting

[nocturne dust]

Momentum is alright

FGS doesn't care too much about blessings

It will perform regardless

You just will have more annoyance with hordes without some way to boost its cleave

[long wharf]

the heavy attack damage difference between the mk6 and mk8 is really noticeable

[nocturne dust]

mk8 has a strong stab after its push attack

it is more damaging than mk6, but worse DPS overall due to the push taking up time

[covert umbra]

Howdy fellas, is it worked out what the best perks are for the Blaze force Greatsword?
Also, Is Warp Resistance the dump stat? (I usually play Zeal or Vet)

[nocturne dust]

carapace, unyielding

yes, dump warp res

always dump warp res unless you're using Voidstrike, then dump blast radius

[long wharf]

carapace damage is really low for the FGS

[hearty wolf]

Are

[nocturne dust]

Not really

[hearty wolf]

we using the same wep?

[wispy bay]

Only for light attacks

[covert umbra]

I said Perks, but I meant blessings lol
My bad

[vernal dagger]

Hey y’all I’m leveling my psyker and wanna use the electro staff, was thinking about combining it with assail but idk if that’s good or not

[hearty wolf]

FGS= Force Greatsword

[nocturne dust]

Both mks should be able to handle crushers in 3 heavies with extremely minimal buffs

you can easily get to 2 hits with both as well, provided you're on the right side of the tree

[wispy bay]

2 hits if all of the buff are on

[crude cape]

so do you give up the rending node in havoc/ rending on flame for the armor seems good

[wispy bay]

Otherwise, more like 4-5 heav hits.

[nocturne dust]

uh, no

[hearty wolf]

Where's this 4-5 shit coming from

[nocturne dust]

with +carapace, it's 3

and there's no reason to not use +cara

[hearty wolf]

Maybe if you aim at the feet?

[nocturne dust]

because FGS does so much damage to everything that isn't ogryns

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-miss-fomo-come-back-its-good-dont-leave-gif-14502465

[hearty wolf]

We should only test body breakpoints because there's no guarantee you can weakspot

It's like crit rate

It's out of your control

[nocturne dust]

I hate weakspot gameplay

but like

even in my worst moments, I can do it like 90% of the time on melee

[fathom adder]

While you're leveling up just use whatever are the best weapons the game has given you so far. Assail is going to be far stronger than any weapons you have access to at low levels

[nocturne dust]

You can play the game when you're max level

[weary idol]

y'knoww hat smite psyker fun with max warp damage

get crits with lightning staff, stab things to death

smite and then everything dies

it's basically just a flame staff from IKEA but it's lightning so it's cooler

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, it's very fun. You can make it more fun by getting rid of smite.

[weary idol]

but smite makes the corpses explode

and that's satisfying

[nocturne dust]

EK still explodes things

[weary idol]

doesn't kill hordes

[nocturne dust]

That's why you have shriek

[weary idol]

I don't have shriek I use this dumbass build on dome

[nocturne dust]

ew

[nocturne dust]

puppet master
ew

warp expenditure
ew

skipping Perilous Combustion on EK

ew

[weary idol]

here's the assail one

[nocturne dust]

Well, you're correct it is a dumb build

[weary idol]

psychic leeching

yeah no shit I play it as a meme

[nocturne dust]

how dare you

no fun allowed

videogames are serious business

[weary idol]

assail spam is the real fun one

300% cleave assail

with enough damage just one of those things can kill like 6 poxwalkers

it's hilarious

[analog agate]

Bro. That build

[deft stump]

It's just 3 hits with+cara to head area with mk6, seriously. I have the most unoptimised build with it.

[crude cape]

does a single burn crit if im just puffing lmb count to trigger Empathetic evasion?

or does the first tick have to crit

[weary idol]

I know. Great right?

You're looking to copy it and run it in havoc 40 it's so good

[deft stump]

Where perfect timing? This is crit build, right?

[weary idol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1033034004288520254/1117316081426628649/IMG_0262.gif

[wispy bay]

I do have + carapace.

[deft stump]

Then IDK, I just H1 H2 H1.

[marble crater]

The rending node is bugged and doesn't work

[strong gulch]

Even if the rending node wasn't bugged, I think I'd still opt for ER because of the 85% quell speed reduction in high havoc.

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/view/vro-silly-cat-chausie-cat-cute-gif-13783858232026409779

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/mkultra-mind-control-cat-face-gif-2481894448833856970

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/il5MrJmgrBW.gif

[covert umbra]

Magic Friends Brain Burst + Venting, going for Empowered Psionics.
Do I want Bio-Loadstone, so 12.5% chance for a charge on any kill,
Or Overpowering Souls for a 100% chance on Elite kills.

[patent mango]

overpowering souls i thinky

[covert umbra]

Thanks fellas. Also, does Disrupt Destiny make Brain Burst do more damage ( Brain Burst counts as a Crit right?)

[patent mango]

brain burst cant crit

but the +15% pure dmg should count

[strong gulch]

yip

[patent mango]

weakspot dmg too should count

[thorn cedar]

ye both count

but still pale in comparison to a flat 50% from an EP charge

[analog agate]

I’ll only take rending node when the math shows it is actually impactful in gameplay/or nerf uncanny

Cause er is too good for sustained dmg

[thorn cedar]

10% to only warp damage and only above 75% pretty much means its never gonna be good

[strong gulch]

Yeah. EP is a huge buff to BB and it's still not good enough.

I will say tho, for casual play when everyone is just kinda running around, I had fun doing EP BB with purg/inferno.

[ripe obsidian]

I just lost a havoc 40 to a net through my bubble. >:(

I was honestly not positioned very well, so it was maybe a wipe anyway. 2 bosses, crusher patrol, horde, etc. But we had a solid chance until the netter pulled me too far out of my bubble for the team to save me

[olive spear]

whats the major difference for the lightning ability between left and rightclick?
Left click only for stun?
And right only for wavecontrol?

[weary idol]

right click is better in every scenario

[olive spear]

damagewise also the same?

[zinc phoenix]

Left click is quick push and very good

[olive spear]

i fumble a bit inbetween if i have to swap trough all 3 options.

[zinc phoenix]

Like if you’re dodge sliding and want to stop a gunner shooting, left click it and it’ll push it to stop

[thorn cedar]

https://youtu.be/OT1xC1bzDJs?si=bO_HrORt7-pnV3Kq

[zinc phoenix]

Right click pins a group of things and is situationally useful

You mostly don’t want it but for blobs of crushers you want it

[patent mango]

pin this already frr

[analog agate]

I have never seen a psyker use smite like Exploits does. Shame

[thorn cedar]

thats kind of the irony

youre not gonna notice a smyker split-second stun a trapper

[strong gulch]

Yeah, the times I've used it for quick utility seem to have gone unnoticed.

I keeping meaning to make a build that explicitly uses smite like that, but I forgor.

[thorn cedar]

i do wish you could take smite w/o lightning storm

which ... i mean i guess you could

nothing is really stopping you

but if youre leaning on left click especially then its a very big help

i feel like a lot of its unstated effects should just be base smite

[jovial juniper]

(probably because it's only benefitial if you don't run Damage Smite)

[patent mango]

warhammer

[wind spruce]

It's only beneficial to use smite like exploit does if you're not running damage smite?

[olive spear]

the animation line in the middle bugged out? does that mean the node isn´t activated? (it worked after i took the skill above though)

[jovial juniper]

"Why should you let go of smite if you can just hold and kill everything?"

See?

[fathom adder]

If you're using eepy smite you expend one charge whether you tap it quick or hold it down on a whole room

[wind spruce]

Ah right

Damage smite being EP smite

[wind spruce]

What unstated effects?

[thorn cedar]

+1m tether and +1m retether

[olive spear]

does that mean sithlording the whole room like an idiot is now very ineffective

or does it do what its supposed to do?

[thorn cedar]

its mostly just unnecessary

[olive spear]

but lightning goes wush

and everything is stunned kinda

[thorn cedar]

yea but almost everything is stunned if you just let it go, too

[last shore]

Best CC is just killing them

[thorn cedar]

all non-elites get punted to the ground when you let smite go after theyve been hit by it

so you can just do that and now do much more impactful damage

[sturdy reef]

Im just gonna fuck around and try this with Bistol and FGS

[wind spruce]

Soul drinker does basically nothing with only perilous combustion

[olive spear]

so how terrible is my tree than? 😄

[wind spruce]

F-tier, should have wildfire over quietude

[thorn cedar]

pretty bad but i see what youre going for

[olive spear]

than i switch out -5 warpgen for wildfire

seems alright 🤔

(except that it´s terrible)

And i just realized

i could have just checked numbers in the meatgrinder 🤔

[sturdy reef]

fgs special

[wind spruce]

What about it?

[sturdy reef]

it procs SB

I thought it counted as SB

[wind spruce]

No it doesn't....

[analog agate]

Nope

[wind spruce]

It can't even proc blazing spirit

[sturdy reef]

ah nvm then

[analog agate]

We all wish it did though

[sturdy reef]

[velvet crescent]

tried smite and wasn't quite my speed

im going brain rupture for infinite range special popping

[verbal thistle]

Good

[velvet crescent]

I also tried assail and while it was fun it just wasn't the same

I miss having infinite range "fuck this guy" buttons

[tepid python]

im a scriers/assail enjoyer

yes i pop atleast once a run

[upbeat kestrel]

With scriers i never pop

[verbal thistle]

Try using assail with scriers gaze and destiny, it can wipe hordes and elites

My personal fav

[velvet crescent]

works for me, im currently trying to use soulblaze with brain burst but im like 99 sure that im doing it wrong

[upbeat kestrel]

Scriers with 2h sword is just so good. I know its old news

[velvet crescent]

the idea is soulblaze to turn specials into impromptu explosive barrels

[verbal thistle]

Sounds like a good idea

Spread the burn

[prime elk]

this is the way

[tepid python]

real reason to run scriers is gunkering

[verbal thistle]

SG works for all

[tepid python]

[verbal thistle]

I don't think there is 1 real reason for it

[prime elk]

yeah SG is just as good for melee

[upbeat kestrel]

I have more time as sword psyker than gunspyker

[velvet crescent]

lemme share my build in a sec

[verbal thistle]

Melee, staff and gun

[verbal thistle]

Sure, I can help with builds

[prime elk]

don't need to main gun to make very good use of SG

[tepid python]

the new sword is awesome

[upbeat kestrel]

I mean i like good cod gameplay in darktide from time to time

With gun psyker

[velvet crescent]

disclaimer

i have absolutely no idea what im doing

deflector force sword is fun though

[verbal thistle]

For darktide, you don't get the real game experience until level 30. But what you have so far is a good start

[velvet crescent]

oh, seriously?

i only got my vet to level 30 but that was like years ago

[verbal thistle]

What weapons are you using?

I can show a max level build with what you chose

[velvet crescent]

blaze force sword (the single target one, not the gs) and the electro staff

electro's my pick for cc because im rolling bb but i wanna go the fire staff when i can

fire staff applies soulblaze instead of just fire dot right?

[verbal thistle]

Correct

The flamer staff expert is @plucky flax

But I can make a build

[plucky flax]

[verbal thistle]

He's looking forward to the burga staff

[velvet crescent]

^

Tldr I'm running brain burst for "fuck that guy in particular" and my staff is my pick for CC

[verbal thistle]

And for the staff

One sec

[flat shadow]

Real scrierheads use trauma staff and drop a single fully charged secondary before exploding

[verbal thistle]

@plucky flax do you still take maniac on burga?

[plucky flax]

You can if you want. I take unyielding instead for monster and bulwakrs

Bulwarks too annoying

[verbal thistle]

That's what I was considering

But he has EP BB

For single target

[verbal thistle]

As the #1 hater, yes.

[plucky flax]

Ah ye that's gud too

[sturdy reef]

I do crit and flak

Bulwarks arent too bad to dodge

[verbal thistle]

@velvet crescent try to get these and have fun leveling

[velvet crescent]

👍

[sturdy reef]

and teammates should be helping with bulwarks while you staff

[velvet crescent]

i understand smite's a support thing but i kinda expected to see hordes just drop when i palpatine them

granted they do but it's a bit slow for my tastes

[plucky flax]

Burga decimate horde much faster than smite

[sturdy reef]

itd be too strong if it killed hores without EP

that too

[strong gulch]

I did EP BB with inferno yesterday and it was fun.

[plucky flax]

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1316462732999921735/elmopsyker.gif

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[tranquil sluice]

perfect mission table this sweek, only spent 7500g to make it super easy. (i play 3 classes and not that much)

[quartz barn]

First 2 are impossible because havoc doesnt spawn mats

[summer prairie]

it spawns heretic idols if those count

[strong gulch]

234

14%??? I'm over 30. How? lmao

[hearty wolf]

That's a lot

Can you port it into Vermintide

I need that good red dust

Wait not like tha-

[strong gulch]

lmao

Yeah I can hop into VT2

OH. I finally understand.

[hearty wolf]

Noe am working ATM

For the next uhh

7 hours unless I'm needed for something more

[left basin]

illisi feels better for scriers

:((((((((((

plez buff fgs bazong

[deft stump]

Even the other more heretical CC mark?

[left basin]

illisi plays so well with malefic

fgs feels like it's supposed to be the meleest psyker thing, and it just isn't

[stuck sinew]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[left basin]

my underslept brain doesn't parse for whatever reason

[deft stump]

Not mk6 fgs.

[cold geode]

BFGS 9000 is best.

[left basin]

i mean it's better than the other one

[deft stump]

Wut. Mk6 best.

[left basin]

yes, mk6 is better than the other one

[upper sun]

i hope u dont get any purge psykers

[radiant frigate]

it is though

[left basin]

no matter how fun it is, it doesn't play well into male momemtum, which is very skrunkly

the moveset is great, the special isn't

[upper sun]

have you tried using female momentum?

[radiant frigate]

^

[left basin]

miss me with that

[wind spruce]

It does though, you use assail to get the non-warp buff

[left basin]

ass sale kool, but i want to swing thing

[upper sun]

but yeah you kinda need the 10% attack speed node

[left basin]

i dont want an anime button just for the sake of it being anime

[radiant frigate]

or you pretend you're kerillian and whip out a doubleshot voidstrike every now and then

(thank you true aim)

[left basin]

that i do already

(give back old true aim)

my guiding moonlight and all

i still want a special that plays well

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/d3l7Kb

Do both

[cold geode]

Umm.. I murdered 60+ mobs in a single swing into mixed hordes with the BFGS. Not sure why you think it's an anime button. Or meme'y.

[deft stump]

Why am confused, even if I suck with it.

[upper sun]

u took 1 hit

noob

[wind spruce]

Am bad 😦

[lime creek]

What's better for hordes? I'm running brainburst and voidstrike staff (the one that has an aoe effect)

So for my melee I'm considering force greatsword or force blaze sword. If blaze sword which mark

[upper sun]

illisi or force greatsword

tbh

deimos has good clear too

[lime creek]

So they act the same rhen? Illis and greatsword

[upper sun]

no

illisi is just the general easy to use clear option

greatsword is a bit harder to use

[cold geode]

It's not great at it since the slaughter nerf but it's still usable.

[deft stump]

Illisi is stroke into heavy.

Can't go wrong except stroke too much and rng hates you.

[surreal magnet]

Hi, zealot main here learning psyker. Why do psyker weapons want to roll low base warp resistance? I saw a video saying that I want like 30% warp resistance on this but don't understand why

[summer prairie]

it's a convenient way to build up peril for your talents/blessings and for that weapon specifically you essentially never use it more than once in a row

[surreal magnet]

isn't peril bad?

[marble crater]

Warp resistance is also the stat with the worst scaling on our weapons

Peril is good

[summer prairie]

peril is only bad if you are at 100% and generate more

or need it for blocking, I guess

[marble crater]

More peril = more damage, more damage reduction

[summer prairie]

it's mostly good for warp rider talent, one with the warp, warp nexus and unstable power blessings

[upper sun]

you also get crit chance form high peril with blessings like warp nexus

[summer prairie]

and generating toughness

[upper sun]

in short ALWAYS GOON always have high peril

[surreal magnet]

so i want to try to be in higher levels of peril most of the time?

[marble crater]

Yes

[deft stump]

Sus.

[marble crater]

I aim for around 70-80, then cast staff or other things, quell a bit, cast again

[deft stump]

Clad, what are you thinking?

[upper sun]

keep peril high

[surreal magnet]

ah i see i wasn't thinking about one with the warp and warp rider

ok i get it now

thanks guys

[summer prairie]

also good for quickly getting peril up for creeping flames shriek

[surreal magnet]

yeah im starting to see the loop looking at venting shreik

[marble crater]

And to get it up only to quell again for toughness

[deft stump]

But you were thinking about gooning.

[marble crater]

He was thinking about his psyker

[upper sun]

yes peril

[strong gulch]

Specifically in FGS it's recommended to be around 30 warp resist is because two specials get you to the peril needed to apply max soulblaze stacks with shriek with creeping flames mod. 85% peril is an easy mark to get max stacks (6 soulblaze stacks).

Depends on your peril management talents.

[wind spruce]

Hey you dropped this 👑

[strong gulch]

But also you can be lower than 85% peril, but due to timing and rounding, 85% is a safer option.

83.33% is the minimum iirc.

[upper sun]

oh yeah also