#psyker-class
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keep in mind the avg psyker has more greatswords than the entirety of rogue trader game
(rogue trader has 1)
(the 1 in rogue trader isonly usable in the last 5% of the game)
Relic Blades are reserved for the very tippy-toppest heroes among Space Marines.
(Per the Deathwatch RPG, they still have to give them back after each mission as well)
(for the rogue trader, as a non psyker, as a max rep heretic)
Could do like,
- Beast Snagga: melee dps in a similar vein to zealot, with access to throwing spears and bonuses against large enemies.
- Flash git: ranged dps who lacks a melee weapon, but makes up for it with combi-weapons that can give a hard wack if needed; functions as two different ranged weapons.
- Wierdboy: the magic character, functions as expected of the previous selection
- Stormboy: High-mobility character with access to multiple jetpacks with different abilities (A rocket charge like kruber/ogryn, an aoe jump kinda like slayer bardin, a brief hover to keep out of range of melee enemies)
Flash git could be swapped out for a heavy weapon ork of other varieties such as a burna or loota, I could also see beast snaggas being an off class for an ard'boy who's more defense focused melee
Potato (Bean) playing Stormboy would be funny though.
If they're feeling spicy they can throw in a boss nob who acts as the defacto buffing character like merc Kruber or shout vet
@nocturne dust
"Wats da passwerd"
its true
"Rashuns"
Hives haunted
i just gotta defeat 1 more loading screen
@nocturne dust @hearty wolf @patent mango ggs
ggs
ggs
ggs
we will continue doing havoc and pretend we are getting true survivor for you or something
“Oh no we have to play the game for fun instead of gacha reasons”
I'm happy I managed to clutch 3 times despite the adrenaline trying to kill me 
Even if we all died immediately after I clutched once 
That's what it's all about
the adrenaline
Playing a game? for fun? 
which you can only get from me holding w into the hordes
lmao, no, I hate that feeling
No gauge on FGS. 😭
Count your kills ig
xd
Oh well
Normal gaming later

Just wanted to try something new
I mean I'm fine with the playstyle I just need to know beforehand so I can prepare myself
Watching everyone run ahead as I try to deal with ten bagillion things by myself is 😭
xd
especially when you bring slow weapons
You still didn't get to see my pov
On the first run I went absolutely crazy
The fact I made it past 3 POs and half a million ogryn spawns was incredible
I was barrel boosting through the map like a bunny
I didn't expect the mutie to throw me into the dh
Dude I'm still having a heart attack from those clutches 
Was funny tho on the last one
had to keep switching to my revolver to run
and literally was using FotF to dodge overheads from crushers behind me
i dont think those games were real
why are the event missions always consignment yard 💀
That's what night time me decided
I made the event real
the REAL event
its so jolly
But it was a 1 day special unfortunately... Until next time
fgs aint built fo that lmao
funny
It's good to break up the monotony of playing samey
listen to this timestamp and weep for us all...
this is imho by far the biggest problem Darktide has to be fully enjoyable right now
On-Elite/Special Triggers should be nipped in the bud
i thought about that, how the game almost gets easier with more elites/specials
plus you can mark the specials so they're easier to see and stuff
its fkn egregious lapse of design judgement. FS needs to take lessons from Ghost Ship Games (DRG)
I enjoy the brokenness of it 
you wont anymore 2000 hours into the game
it's probably on purpose i guess. would make sense if there was some sort of strategy involved in it all though.
it begins to really dawn on you just how shallow the game can be
almost halfway there 
and i dont believe this for one second, padewan....
wdym
The game has shroudfield zealot
oof nearly there
even worse: shout vet
by far the worst tbh
am I not allowed to enjoy being broken? If I wanted to not be broken, I would simply not run the broken stuff
🤷♂️
I have self control
literally shitting out gold toughness
this game has like 8 builds across all characters
Gold toughness is cringe
dont run the broken stuff pls 😭
preach
You can't stop me 
Until death is a crutch
ye
and fatshark skilltree designer is incompetent. The only 2 real certainties in the Darktideverse
I have nearing 2k hours and I still love the game.
Same, love it too cause there's nothing like it! But parts of it make me wanna KMS due to mindbogglingly bad, uninteresting and bland design choices
listen to the timestamp
and you will have 1 of 1000 examples of this
Ahhh ok. I didn’t scroll up. I will watch it in a sec
Is that legit
💀troll
im so deadass
yea it works
i just did smite for like 50 seconds
You NEEED warp unbound AND empowered psionics not to be a heavy fkn burden to your team though.
So they don’t like power creep in terms of a class getting better with special density
yeah but das just part of the build
But you used smite
Empowered psionics is a must, otherwise you worthless to the team
So you lost
Smykers are cringe Yes but at least EP sciers smite isn't abysmally bad like standard smite builds
A smite scriers build is better than venting shriek?
Sure. But i forbid you to use it in any other way than with EP and sciers, its literally the only way to make smite not trashfire
ONLY with warp unbound it kinda carries it hard
but its fun
Smite with EP is good enough tbh
100%. But only due to the unlimited peril for 10 secs after scriers
you can chain it over and over ad nauseum
I have never tried it so it is a legit question. I am iffy on it though
Scriers makes you able to smite 3x as long with warp unbount
go to the psykonarium
Sedition grindset
tutorial grindset
doubt
It is, try it and see how long you can keep up the smite
its not GOOD, mind you but its not dogshit and above all its fun
Approx. 3x longer per charge
I mean, the test isn’t how long. But how fast you kill guys, no?
Based.
but shriek smite can also be sustained for a long fucking time
Faster because you dont pause
Not comparable to scriers unbound smite
Cringe u don't need it to be 3x
10 seconds longer?
you can almost endlessly cycle scrier activates if you get lucky on the elite kills
this is way too long buh...
smite does no damage so its just how long you can do it, it EVENTUALLY kills everything but you can say that about anything.
Sit down and meditate, you'll get thru it champ
nooooooo
pretend its a big force gs
holy hel
Anyway i only linked this for the timestamp @patent mango
bio lodestone should be buffed slightly idk why you would use it over guaranteed on elite kills
No it would not. The game is 99% the same trashfire in terms of game balance and skilltree design as 1 year ago. The only real major milestone is the actual launch-ready release of crafting late last year
https://youtu.be/70B40ly0KfE I'm proud of this 10 minute long moment
@patent mango @hearty wolf @strong gulch
Not buffed, chance based passives are boring and dont involve making an active choice. Make it like... After a certain amount of ranged weakspot kills or some shit and then it will at least be mildly interesting
rework would be better agreed
Ye
With update 12 or whatever (skill tree) they moved the gameplay from horde management to special spam management and everyone being able to deal with everything.
I don’t mind the change but I can see how people dislike it

plz no
weakspots are so boring
You seem a rather dull blade my friend
i saw the vid talking about enemies that can block attacks with their arms
that'd be cool
And we kept making you clutch.
no u

Okay lads now with all this talk about smiking, i feel obliged to tell you I will personally raid your house and drag you to HiveCity Brazil if you even consider using smite without empowered psionics 👺
Good night
trolled
I don’t think anyone considers using smite without EP here
I would if charged strike was useful 😭
Now reddit? Different story haha
Its good to know not all places are like Reddit 
redditors are quite "smart" in their own special way
We'll give you more clips soon
plz no 😭 You can tell how much adrenaline is coursing through me by my inability to hit a sniper point-blank at 6:14 in the video
Smite’s 1 major upside is being able to take both malefic momentum and psykinetic’s aura at the same time
Yeah, I’ll clarify. No one uses a smite build without EP. I get people like some melee players like taking it for that though
thats fgs
its over..
It's a learning experience
But our God and saviour, the one true creator of the atheneum has been insisting warp charges smite is superior for over a year

Exploits? I think does the melee smite build
I think he has now gone to EP smite with lmb EK staff. At least, last I saw Pygex comment on here during havoc talks
Squeak (are you irosktheorc?) .0.
We need to do some games together soon, friend
squeak (yus indeed)
squeak (rat will be on later tonight so if you see rat online feel free to join or invite)
I won't be on tonight working later and then early morning 
Another time soon though ❤️
squeak (aw, thats okay)
squeak (take care of yourself fren, rat hopes to see you soon)
o7
FatShark being FatShark
Decided to take my (at the time) lv25 Ogryn into a damnation Maelstrom and managed to clear it without doing too bad, 2 psykers and someone dc'd and the game somehow never found a fourth
Was fun needing to actually try to survive.
Is this a good build
didn't see it
No

Ok lemme lock in
Eh
Pretty much standard blaze build with the Voidblast
Although the blessings on the dueling sword won't help with the play style
And the Voidblast has a crit perk for more blazing Spirit procs
Which is eh
Tldr get Uncanny Strike on that sword
throws enemies in the ground
"Why's my Riposte Precognition DS not working "
Yesish. Uncanny instead of precog on sword. Pots to ER. KD/Soulstealer/Quietude to Wildfire
What
I'm new to the fame
Game
Penetration of the soul to empyric resolve. Kinetic Deflection/Soulstealer/Quietude to Wildfire
And uncanny blessing instead of precog on dueling sword
/‘s mean or
Crit chance perk on fire trauma/ voidblast is meta.
That rending talent currently just doesn't work
Ohhh and I didn’t see it having Essence Harvest (in the keystone). Take that shit off and put it on Wildfire
Don’t more KD/Soulstealer/Quietude
Do this
I'd personally drop warp battery for KF.
You can do that too
Which recon lasgun is the best on gunpsyker? Green,blue or tan?
12
Why is that better
Essence Harvest is very much meh in toughness regen (plus you already have a lot). Wildfire works well with blaze VB to get your stacks going and spreading soul blaze. Penetration of the soul is currently bugged and doesn’t work. Empyric resolve will allow you to spam more blasts. You can honestly go either way on Psychic Vampire vs In Fire Reborn
You can also move Warp Battery to Kinetic Flayer if you want some random damage on high value targets
mk 6 imo
Most settle on the 12 because it shoots the fastest which means more crits.
But choose the one you like most.
12 is honestly overrated
12 reload speed is ass tbh
its better for hordes, but gunker already has very good horde clear. Also ammo
wtf is this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d413a41-b3e7-490e-a5fd-eccf038e9266/mister-es-hybrid-assail
picked the assail modifier talents and a toughness node over lightningspeed/warp splitting and quietude?
HH on lasgun lol
on psyker
So what's the value in True Aim? If you're mag dumping into heads it makes every 6th shot a crit? Or is it spent on assail?
Once you have 5 stacks of true aim, can be built with melee btw, you get a guaranteed crit on ranged.
That range can be staff, assail, or gun.
so that is good for something lke revolver?
Just use surgical on the revolver.
It's good on any range that can crit.
What's so good about it if it only activates once per attack? Is it because of the ease of gaining those stacks?
Some say it only gains 1 stack per attack.
on the agripa too?
Dunno. I like one shot kill funni gun.
Probs not since you wanna fan it.
Crusian roulette is probs better.
I wonder if you skill shot all shots...
True aim is good because it can stack quickly and can guarantee a crit which can be more important on some builds.
The more crit chance you have, the worse it becomes. BUT true aim also means that HH is getting reset if you have that on a gun.
The other node that you would take is VERY niche along the way to DD.
But also ur accuracy is gonna impact it.
Yeah crucian roulette is better on the agripina revolver while surgical is better on zarona.
Thanks. I'm looking at that knife/IAG build on the steam guide and trying to make sense of the nodes it uses.
It's just good on any fast firing gun you can aim at heads.
The guide in the pins?
Psyker Athenum, I hope it's that one
Gotcha. TBH, those builds have been kinda sus for awhile. Tho I do appreciate the effort to make different builds or "on boarding builds".
I think I see the one you're looking at. Build 37.1
Some of them seemed to have been updated for havoc while others are marked outdated. And yeah, that one
I don't have any major gripes with that build other than dropping ethereal shards for quietude.
Most of the time, people opt for scrier's gaze (SG) with vraks iag.
But shriek is good too, tho very much not meta. As long as you have fun.
Yeah, I was thinking that you might as well go scriers gaze with all that management
To be clear, shriek is not meta for guns.
Shriek (assuming creeping flames) is very much meta for left side builds.
This is a general melee, assail, gun build.
Hey Bean, if there's Orkz ver of Tide games, would you play Stormboyz?
Do what now?
Flees.
Think reckless assault jet troopers on questionable jetpacks.
Still... Flees.
If you want shriek tho and neither of your weapons build peril, it gonna be annoying to keep peril up to make good use of shriek with just assail (it doable tho). It CC/ push scales with peril and at around 85% peril will apply 6 stack of soul blaze.
I know surety of arms was in the atheneum build, but you'll have to reload fairly often to keep peril up.
BUT you also don't have to be a peril edger.
I still don't know what that means. 
It that a space marines thing?
Think Helldivers 2, but even more questionable jet packs.
Then that must be a funny game 
Since the packs are basically powered by their belief in that it works.
we can only hope they could make a tide game vertical like that and not totally change the feel of the game
would be cool either way i guess. maybe just way bigger maps or something
Tide Jumping Puzzle 
Much thanks, I was getting kinda bored with zappy staff builds so I kinda wanted to see what it'd be like to live dangerously with a knoife and gun
Bean get beaned by fall damage.
I'd be very good. (lies)
the sheer unadulterated skill
Jesus, the absolute point blank laser dumping.
Like mowing a lawn.
I am not bringing my recon on my vet. It is not a good idea to onslaught+extra rending.
Only thing I hate worse is tox bombers. Losing toughness, blind, AND hordes huffing it get faster.
Fart gas. Do NAWT want.
weirdboyz, this is the psyker chat afterall
Nu. Want to see Bean play Stormboyz. More funni.
What is the usual plan for tox bombs if you don't have comms? Back out or push through and hope your team is with you? That has been the real test of whether my missions will go well or fail. More than any crusher/rager pack.
Based bistol shriek creeping flames build tho
True, but is not general gun build. 🫡
It's the ✨ exception✨
Depends. If ur team is pushing then likely should also push. It really depends.
Pick a direction and pray to the Emperor then 
Also if ur the one carrying. If you can't survive on ur own, staying back might be worse than the gas.
And in pug, good luck with getting gold toughness to help.
there are like
Is there hi shock new event?
10x the beacons I see now
Or it's just hi intensity?
I still see too many stealth loner spammer.
a lot more pug psykers now running bubble too
it's a new event with ogryn waves
used to all be shriek or SG
Nope. Vent smykers.
Ask Idyll.
We get 2 every game.
lol
It got hilarious.
I mean the modifier. Is there hi shock + brute or it's just hi intensity + brute + dogs or whatever.
I have to play 10 maps of this crappy events for the shitty frame. 
I'm on my totally not a good idea H40 build and just playing support.
Idyll go Thammer and bonk while Smykers just Smyke.
the event is fun
It's too ez imo
i only did auric 4's though
There is just hi int brutes.
There needs to be way more ogryns.
And hi int brutes with stg.
Like make it 70% ogryns.
and a lot of power outages
if they do that make it less bulwarks perhaps
Look, chaos oggys wanna eat and lick batteries.
Is why no lights and failing ventilation.
my runs at auric 4 just keep throwing 2-3 bulwarks + 3-5 crushers then like 10-15 reapers 💀
I'm so poor that the resources are my main motivation 
Only reason to poke for carries through 40. Inf diamantine to feed stuff.
And avoid using heavy weapons by shoving weapons at Hadron.
Man, I may try havoc just for the resources if they're as good as I've heard 
22k diamantine.
Yep.
yeah that's wild
Had a run where we got jumped by a crusher/Bulwark squad as the elevators opened.
Like 200 matches worth.
is that 22k PER havoc 40?
Per week.
oh okay it'd be insane if you could do 10+ and get like 200k diamantine per week if you had a great team lol
It was like that Captain America scene except with rejects and ogryns
I love my kraks.
Good for annoying ppl and annoying enemies.
hail hydra
2 zealots a psyker and an ogryn (me). We got out ok but the psyker got double overheaded. Spent my pineapple grenade on a previous oggy pack.
No double chorus?
If we did, they forgot and panicked from all dem big bois
But chorus is panic button.
Heck, if both 1 brain cell panic at that point, won't even blame then.
If you use many more try, abhuman_07 is hi/shock event map
Do havoc 40 everyweek you get rich fast.
Like 30k plasteels?
Okay let's do duo this.
Ok
Release more weapons obese fish
I have too many resources, need to dump em for boosting mastery
But fr when are they coming back from holidays
They said they back.
Thats fucking sick
Wish I had that
Idk what Id do tho lmao
Maybe actually finish my projects
ngl inferno staff so not fun
Yes it's boring.
It sounds like a fire extinguisher, funnily enough.
Is blue white anyway.
True. Warp flames and all that.
I love how the only two depictions of imperial psyker pyromancy in games are quite nearly entirely opposite colors
Blue white in DT versus red purple in RT
so close! it's actually a people extinguisher
"so close!" hmmm
What's usually considered the best Blaze Force Sword
I prefer the Deimos model but I'm wondering what would be the most meta
They are all good. Depends mostly on preference and what the weapon is fulfilling in your build.
Isn't the ans, depends on your staff?
BFGS 9000
Illisi for hordes
deimos for single target
obscurus for an in-between
FGS (force greats sword) is broadly good at everything but is less mobile. Both of them. Pick the one you like more.
So there aren't really any outliers even at the higher levels?
Neat
I tend to prefer the Deimos
I like using it on my pyromancer build when I really need to kill one fella who's gotten too close for me to brain burst
It is generally the better pair.
I go Inferno/EK with Obscurus because sometimes I got high peril and venting is unavailable.
I tend to be pretty good at not periling with Inferno and EK, but the Blast and Strike staves i feel like I have less control with
Inferno, voidblast and voidstrike all have great crowd clear so deimos is a better pairing for them imo
Yeah that's usually what I try to do
Fgs is more fun though
If I'm using a gun i really prefer FGS
Obscurus is the real outlier cause it just sucks
Unless they buffed it hard recently
It is buffed. It has both swing, stab and strike down.
Buffed but complicated as all heck so... Lul.
Not really
I like weapons with varied movesets
Obscurus has H1 dealing high damage right the way, H2 is a swing with the same damage as Deimos H1.
The light combo has quick sweep and L3 is a stab that do same damage has Deimos L1.
So it's swish swish stab as opposed to Deimos stab swish swish
Yes
So you have option to deal with horde with light, heavy target with heavy and anything in between by combo them.
Ill have to use it more
To be fair, I found the simple style of Relic annoying so... Kinda expected I don't take to it, heh.
Like many of zealot weapons, borderline braindead simple to use.
I just find random thrust in light combo annoying.
nah firestaff its trash i can;t stand to use it anymore
if maybe it would charge faster it could be better but now nah
Firestaff as in Inferno?
ye
Not wanting to play it because of playstyle I can understand, but calling it trash is just wrong, because it's extremely powerful at what it does
annoying to use
Best way to put it is, what one finds fun might be annoying to awful for another.
voidstrike was that one which makes that exposion ?
I also don't like playing it outside of havoc, because it's boring to use 
or voidblast
VoidSTRIKE shoots a ball in a straight line
VoidBLAST makes the explosion on the ground
ok thanks
One is fun boom boom staff. the other is a traumatic experience to aim.
noted
Illisi light spam 
H1L2 spam 
No thats too hard
Just spam stroke heavy stroke heavy.
Deimos combos are L1 > H2, the L > H2, which deal insanely good single target damage.
I don't even use special heavy. Just special light 
very nice
Heavy attack too hard for smooth brain
Obscurus you can just spam Heavies and it takes care of both horde and single target.
I do mean for Illisi btw.
time to get voidblast and do some boom boom
im bored with zap zap staff now
watching an anime about "dragon dentists"
Stop stroking my illussy 
its lowkey fire

watch highschool dxd
its like 2 episodes
no thats slop
:3
I have my own!
That's the boobas anime?
very boobas
"The boobas anime" like there is only one 
You finally watch that cult classic.
It is very interesting.
yeah
Get out.
no its slop
but classic
its not good slop like kill la kill
it made me sad almost all dead
i hope new season of overlord will be soon
i can;t wait
any tips to get gut with voidblast
yeah before i die of old age
get a custom crosshairs mod
remember the 3 days we had crosshairs instead of dots by default for staves?
only time i could play voidstrike
voidblast
AAAAAAAAAAAAA
XD
its too simillar
swing your mouse around like a lunatic
they should name it boom boom staff or smt like that
oke
you can also slide while charging
ohhhh
Update to my blaze trauma build with taking perfect timing. I went crazy this game and did the big damage.
Patch 1.2.2
Magistrati Oubliette TM8-707 · Assassination · Damnation · Hi-Intensity Shock Troop Gauntlet (Melee Scab Enemies Only)
Loadout: MK IV Duelling Sword / Blazing Spirits Trauma
watch this guy play

i learned a lot about zealot watching telo play gameplay is a good source
@summer prairie wanna do couple big brutes tries now before my food?
🚬 theyre all lights out
sure
You are making me wanna gremlin with my vet now. >_>
We're playing duo but you can join too.
Maybe for a game or two, depends on how long. Will head out in an hour to grab diabeetus.
I have assassin mission brute hishock
I mean, I need to get used to the lag again, lul.
Playing with Idyll means 9-11ping lul.
coming?
Inf loading screen.
Also, remind me to bring flamer when we do h40. I swapped to bolter because of certain brutes having grims.
i wonder if we will get any new stafs in the future

beam staff is coming
believe
BELIEVE
Then people will do "Dragonball build" on game lantern.
With the worst picks available.
And so i found out once you play without lag, you just die whenever anything shows up with lag.
Grenades don't get tossed in time, dodges seem to do nothing, you die being stabbed by air.
Last is based on what i see anyway.'
Might take awhile to get used to it again, heh.
🚬 yeah i know how you feel
Smite with lags its like bdsm
played tf2 at 90 ping way back when
No, 300 ping.
now i cant stop mentally queuing up actions in my head
I need to dodge a mutie when it's like half way across the map or I get hit.
Dogs are just a gamble.
Trappers can still net me before they drop dead from my feel.
Everything dies half a sec later which can get weird, but it means you just die if more than 5 enemies are next to you.
Since they count to collision even if already dead.
So you simply cannot move.
Also means can't dodge.
And yes, it's back to only shout works against boomers.
Call me when you've played quake on 14. 4k modem with a 350 ping. 
Eh, I used to play Legend VT2 at around 600-800 ping.
The underwater pipes were dooked then or something.
So it kept routing to HK and EU then back again to NZ.
Is why I said I'm sickl of Bardin.
Only char I can play without insta dying.
And no platforming as well since jump is delayed.
But the thing is, you just have to keep playing with dook conditions or else you get used to instant reactions and when you go back to lag, is like nothing is happening even when you are doing the same thing you do normally.
and eating it right?
Nope. Carried it the entire time.
😭

stuck to VIc recon las
a miracle happened yesterday we had a person go down 3 times
and i asked another player to eat the grim
and they did it :3
restored my faith in humanity
You got lucky. We just double zealot if grim mission with rando. So 314 hp+45% corruption resist and the aura. No fun blinded.
nah agent just really wanted to make the trio a duo 
Syllo also died. So you mean solo.
Can you carry my H40 this week please?
sister
i cant even carry myself
the last havoc 40 i did is living in my head rent free 🚬
Oh.
it was the new mission we were down to the last vat to break
ALL I HAD TO DO
dodge one trapper and mag dump it 😭
Trapper do trapper things and doom cos last one?
yup
Painful.
Question: If Assail Gunker, what is your preferred gun? Kinda liking bolt pistol and IAG.
try recon lasgun
Ah, the laser pointer. I do like it on Vet.
@deft stump I'm free now if we can gather some people for it.
I'm not looking to try hard or anything just get through it.
No we doing havoc 40 I think.
In 30 mins. I'm eating.
no havoc
I hate it too. 
And auto correct being a pain.
it takes too long 😠
Can I teach it shortforms already?
maybe strike party 1 to talk
But but, carry me senpai, please?
i dont you i cant carry myself 😭
@hearty wolf toxgas heresy is 30k gold
you can speed run that easy if you're broke
🙄
it's time to get you havoc 50
no
why
38 is fine
no
But but... 
but vhat about mein havoc 40 revards...

ok
retvrn to avric
i can do havok
Chaos will get on if I can find ppl.
Someone mind streaming the run?
trve
Ok?
we're both waiting
ok havoc
where are yo
I am at the mission control setting servers incase nobody else wants to host if they got easier.
And fixing build stuff... so I don't bring a bolt pistol to H40... or so.
bolt pistol is pewpew
pog
Discord stream it?
the power creep is crazy. zealot and veteran got dueling sword and became menaces at any range with better survivability, now psyker has a wave of destruction that makes the use of a ranged weapon wholly unnecessary and makes zealot's horde clearing playstyles obsolete
No u don't want to watch my pov
I don't have nice discord boost thing for high quality stream
you must be a treat to all the people you know irl, huh
you have to subscribe to argentchaos' patreon to watch the gameplay 😭
rawr xd
Mainly just want to see how karien plays
So they can join us on our havoc trains next Monday/Tuesday when we run our friends through them
What is there to respond to that
where in that entire message did i say i'm bad? or where did you read it exactly?
and if you have nothing to say, literally say nothing. you aren't being paid for sending messages and it will not hurt you to not send one
zealot's hode clearing playstyles obsolete > no, just because it isn't AS effective doesn't mean it's obsolete. There's always a meta.
Zealot has ds4 sure but you're not really bringing it for much or, you don't need to. Relic weapon just does it better.
So there is a manner of power creep yes but the game also released a new mode which increases the ceiling
It's not proportionate
But I made you angry
You are unworthy
are you that insecure?
Why are you still angry

GREATSWOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 🔥
eh relic blade is zealots best weapon
big sword!
the wave of destruction is basically just shriek 2 tbh
watching the assault chainsword or devil's claw and trying to justify its use other than fun looking at the duelling sword or relic blades is tough
I will still be bringing devils claw and assault chainsword though
moveset creep 🔥
The true downside is that the relic blade attacks slower
But the increase in damage makes up for it
dclaw and chainsword do so little dmg tbh
I should have taken a video of me duelling a scab captain boss with a claw on havoc 40
I was just wasting everyone's time
havoc 40 viable?? 🔥
The shield health simply regenerated once I got to 3/4ths strength
I didn't know the shield regened at all
it regens?
Yes
idek how shield hp works
It just goes back to full after a while as I learned
its odd might be attack type based or smth
its over......
No I had to stop parrying to shoot a bomber and trapper and it just went back to full
Probably about 8-10 seconds of not attacking
Because moving around stuff to hit specialists
But it was embarrassing
It has 20 HP, each ranged attack deals 1 HP damage and after each attack it can't be damaged for 0,33 seconds.
strongest scab captain
guh?
some melee attacks do mor damig tho
in 40 savage sweep won't even work
you can only cleave 2 people with a devil's claw or chainsword
That also matters for rampage
so called horde clear weapons when they dont get to do horde clear
Oh it's about captain shields, I thought you mean psyker bubble. Ignore what I said 
Only use for DS4 is inf dodge agile use. No more, and i'm not even kidding.
lmao
It's thammer
I've realised relic weapon is trash
I kinda stopped doing high level havoc because the weapons I wanted to use were basically useless
im happy fgs meleeker is decent enough for h40
oh hi @patent mango :)
I think you're tunnel visioning a bit
what weps did you want to use
dclaw and chainswor
I'll try chainsword out next
My psyker stuff for havoc 40 is basically use my staff until I am about to explode and then I swap to my sword and kill until I pull out my staff again
Needs rampage and wrath basically
wrath is very common anyways
Yeah figured, that's fine
Not necessarily just for psyker, I don't typically bring psyker into havoc
Just sometimes
Ye psyker really bad
Also infantry autoguns
I mean in terms of what weapons are viable
I take literal random shit into h40 and it works
@hearty wolfCan you show me the score via DMs if you still have it?
My favorite is the Columnus (wood stock with wrap)
I don't have moebian 21st so the damage numbers are kinda fucked
gimmie a sec th
o
colomnus is still good
like 6 headshots to kill a dreg flamer
cos you have power di
?
I'm the rat minmaxer who just panics or not but internally panicking.
Not the ultra fast one
oh
That's why I said wood stock with wrap
idk the stocks i use extended customization
Ultra fast is vraks
I have 21st modified scoreboard
show
how
Columnus is the middle tier
gotta do some txt editing
Just need to be gud like me
You have a long way
how do
It's on the ovenproof scoreboard mod comment section.
yippie
I think my damage totals add up to that, lemme see
Squeak o.O
Mine looks basically identical to yours?
You know how rats just scurry around being hard to kill and panicking when they see people.
basically.
maybe you fixed yours at some point
this guys pretending
there were some edits you had to do
Yeah but it doesn't show the tru nummber of lesser enemies
He's a skaven
I think the new update to it it might have added it intrinsically
oh right
Rat aren't real
It still counts the damage.
Just doesn't have that enemy type into the killed value.
Gotcha
Squeak (this is a bit of a self promotion, but rat would highly recommend you have a look at this guide if you want to emphasise staff gameplay more)
Squeak 😦
M21 really hurts the scoreboard for thammers total damage but I still killed so much of the carapace
Also it just
destroys muties
It's kinda a big deal to have no muties interrupting you
Squeak (especially the vid at the end for a better idea of what staffs are capable of)
This is a reasonable build but I take warp splitting and by crack of bone
I still take warp battery though
crystalline will 😔
Hello team?!
to be fair always turning towards poxbursters
3 guys facing the back but somehow I got killed by horde.
Tbf you dodged straight towards the hoard but also yea how was there not good hoard clear with 3 people
Squeak (its a controversial pick, but with how rat plays it is necessary)
Rat… why does your build have blast radius as dump on VB staff?
yeah bursters too scary
People swapped to mutie which was arguably correct if it could be dealt with in time, or otherwise I would have got triple burster.
I was doing an damnation maelstrom with waves of pox bursters/mutants on the relay map and despite giving a warning our Psyker decided to go up to the first spawn door by the elevator and ate all the damage
Just started and someone was 2 bars worth of corrupted
I don't recall why I didn't dodge that mutie. It was the only mutie that got me the entire mission iirc
Squeak (with how quickly you can secondary attack with good animation cancelling, blast radius is the worst stat on the staff)
Just saying not my fault I went down. 
Well, I definitely disagree with you on that 🤷♂️
Never blame meself always team.
I think it was because I had no space so he just ran through my hitbox and I was prio'ing something else
cope
You ruined true survivor...
:(

In hindsite I'm surprised we won this mission since at the very first swarm we had a death and someone was at 1hp
Squeak (thats fine fren, but this is why rat loves sharing rat tech. Its so different to how trauma psyker is traditionally played)
weakest havoc 1 player vs strongest havoc 40 player
Squeak (but rat would recommend watching the vid to see how rat scurries as it is hard to imagine why rats build goes against common convention)
Squeak (I'm ill)
Squeak (o noes)
I have a trauma staff build and a electrostaff build
squeak (anyone here like cute rat girls)
My build is whatever the fuck primary and melee weapon I choose to want to master next and stuck with till I do
I HAVE 267 PING.
should have pressed f
wanna play on SEA?
Squeak (ratgirl lilian is amazing) :3
This is fine until you take a gun down the left side skill tree of psyker and then say this gun is awful
it was on cooldown but if you prayed hard enough
I never said anything bout a gun being bad
you could have done it
Funny Fury solo... in Slaaneshi color.
The only gun that genuinely felt bad to use for me is the infantry lasgun when doing Vet
Genuinely had more fun/felt better to use the laspistol over it
Im saying use whatever you want but build your class for it
This is funny because the infantry lasgun is my favorite play style
Squeak (yus, twas a great scurry)
Semi auto sniper
Tbf it was also new vet
So no talents or actually good stuff for the gun
So yea kinda no shit it felt bad for me lo
It works very well with marksmans focus when basically no other gun does
Left side skill tree for vet was made for it
So everyone hates it because it has no melee stuff
When I got its mastery to where I could swap it to the high damage mark though it felt a lot better to use
People say that's the worst one but I like it
It also does bonus damage against unyielding apparently
Better for bosses marginally
And ogryns
I wonder if you can build it to one shot reapers with a crit
Would be awesome
I'm currently leveling my Ogryn and got a setup going for the twin stub gun since its next to master that I chose and I brought it to damnation maelstrom at lv25
Me and a Psyker did most of the work
The twin stubbers are something I feel like I'm using wrong
fatshark rework ogryn plsss
I don't really enjoy them but I see people do pretty well

With the gun skill it let's it tear through any armor
which you folks think is the best weapon to pair with the force greatsword?
idk they're too inaccurate
The pacing was a bit quick which causeds some issues xd
single barrel is fire
Mhm.
I like ripper guns
They feel like a midrange to close range weapon to me personally
Which are absolutely useless in havoc
And meant to shred at those ranges
Gun or EK. But fgs is a good all rounder for any secondary
single barrel does big damig
Any obscurus believers in the chat
And now they block all my shots
ogryn ammo economy is nonexistent
I was happy when fat shark tweaked it
same update that buffed it also added fgs so like
i assume the torrent guns are good, but the EK suggestion might be what im looking, thanks
it faded into obscurity again
Never
Also idk I don't really like the force greatswords that much
They work very well I used onr last night
But like
idk i like jolly movesets
I finally rebound my crouch button to finally slide more easily because why is the default on CTRL
oddly relic blades feel kinda weak for my taste
at least FGS has similar kill potential and aoe
I take one of the troll blessings on my relic blade (heat reduction on timed block) and it still works pretty well
no much hope for pistols for gun-psyker?
heavy las revolver and bistol are all good
Bistol is based
I wonder if I should jst bring my bolt pistol.
I keep trying to switch to it to shoot, then flamer.
i used bolt for some assail weaving, but i feel it lacks punch, specially vs caparace
dont use it for carapace
I used the bolt pistol a lot when it came out then I gradually returned to other stuff
does like 2 damage
eh its ok for carapace
Use big sword for carapace
Yeah you basically used 0 ammo so I just scooped it all up xd
The animations are fun and the damage is great but good golly feels like you're shooting a nerf gun
No. 7 shots to kill.
How do I describe the feeling
7 shots its over
stuff like malefic momentum doesnt seems to do enough when the steel wall comes
Because by the time i prime it, I'm better off just spamming lights and dodging.
Should have stacked it prior
unloaded gun on the shotgunners, now all that there is are crushers
ye having something a lil faster wouldn't hurt if you want to use a secondary
And screaming hate at the things around me.
You got 8 seconds, make it count!
I fucking hate mm as a skill because it's just juggling
it's not hard
*toss cristal shards in panic
it's just
god ogryn is so slowww

