psyker-class

[upper sun]

the code in my name

press escape social then find player

[marble crater]

@strong gulch baby psyker gaming is hell, how did you manage to get to lvl 30 again

[minor wedge]

XD

I see

[hearty wolf]

I in bed, is ok

[deft stump]

Excuse me, this is basically grounds for you to be resting. Even sedition is bad.

[marble crater]

No proper shriek, no ER, no solidity. Blew up twice after using shriek because I thought I can spam trauma more, but noooo

[strong gulch]

Early nearly maxed fire trauma and DS4 because masteries. lmao

Peril gen is bananas tho.

No points in shriek only quells like 5%

[strong gulch]

good good

[marble crater]

It's so bad

[deft stump]

My absolute cancer of a build helps with that. XD

[strong gulch]

U right

[strong gulch]

Yes

[deft stump]

Only way to play psyker till 25 is assail spam malice.

[strong gulch]

I just used trauma. If I explode myself then that is what will be.

[deft stump]

Su was basically doing that the entire time.

[strong gulch]

[deft stump]

I was constantly hearing booms with my cancer build. EK being EK.

[strong gulch]

I think on my first mission after I got trauma I exploded right away and got trapped a few seconds later.

[marble crater]

It was only twice, the rest of the time I only almost blew up

Starting shriek is worthless

[wispy bay]

Self blowing seems to be the typical psyker activity.

[strong gulch]

No one can tear you down like you can.

Psyker is too real. 😭

[deft stump]

EMERGENCY VENT GUD.

[strong gulch]

Sounds like a fart tbh

[minor wedge]

@upper sun Ty ^^

[upper sun]

no worries

[minor wedge]

You got me convinced ur some kind of arch enemy spy now though.

[upper sun]

[deft stump]

Wut.

[minor wedge]

YEAH

I told him I hope we even find a monstrosity

he says "Oh we will"

and there was

[upper sun]

🚬

[deft stump]

Clad, what did you say?

[upper sun]

idk i always get monsters when i duo for that penance

[strong gulch]

Thanks Clad for you continued community service.

[minor wedge]

XD

[deft stump]

Me, trying to fish for DH.

[minor wedge]

Absolute legend

thanks a lot ^^

[deft stump]

0 early DH.

[upper sun]

🚬 the strangest one i did was in chasm logistratum

bots died and my psyker glitched and died

so i spent like 4 minutes kiting a hoard and a BoN to his spawn

i almost had a heart attack during that

[minor wedge]

oof XD

yeah, i also ate dust

but at least I managed more than 50% before

[upper sun]

tbh

i could have dragged the boss to the next room

that would have been funny

one time one level 16 dude insisted on doing the penance

luckly i had two others

we cycled the boss through 2 respawns as he died while damaging it slowly

[marble crater]

[minor wedge]

TIL

you can cheat the hadron system given you have unlimited resources

I have SO much shit i just mastery 20'd my voidblast

by buying voidblasts from brunts

upgrading

and sacrificing

XD

[marble crater]

Yes, woe be upon on the new players and the poor who need to farm mastery in missions

[strong gulch]

Yeah, I could not think my way out of a wet paper bag. The mutant saved me by missing and knocking that trapper over. lmao

[marble crater]

It's nice when things work out that way

Most of the time they end with the mutie throwing you into the net and then you get set on fire

[strong gulch]

Mutants saves you or ruins everything. Winning the mutie 50/50 twice.

[minor wedge]

true

I think the mount of times a mutie either saved or ruined a run for me about evens out

ooooh

2014 disconnect

[deft stump]

Yeah, server is dooking itself as usual.

[vernal temple]

I stressed out just by watching this

[strong gulch]

[minor wedge]

Okay

Voidblast seems

interesting

[deft stump]

PAINFUL, you mean.

[nocturne dust]

What's painful is your ping

[deft stump]

I play with it so none of you have to deal with lag.

[nocturne dust]

I deal with lag, so you are failing

[analog agate]

VB best staff

[minor wedge]

well

I literally made a 5er group of ragers disappear

in ONE blast

Have I been missing out?

I feel like I have been missing out

[deft stump]

Do it at 300+ ping.

[lone wing]

is there a difference between 79% and 80% finesse on the greatsword?

if there is i just got robbed by brunt yet again

[analog agate]

Definitely not

Besides you staring at the number and it bothers you

[deft stump]

MASSIVE OCD.

[lone wing]

good to know

and now

i need to grind dockets and plasteel

and figure out why warp unbound timer stopped working

[marble crater]

Yes

[strong gulch]

You know. It's kinda funny now.

[pseudo eagle]

With electro staff is better to have vent or smite?

I build peril too quickly using electro staff

[analog agate]

Those aren’t mutually exclusive

EK pairs well with shriek

[strong gulch]

The +1 smite mod applying to electro staff was patched out a long time ago.

If you are maining EK, then vent with KF ( brain burst mod) is going to net you the most damage.

However, you can put 1 point into smite and have that as a oh shit button and have basically the same build.

If you are maining smite, then go EP (empowered psionics; middle keystone).

[strong gulch]

Yes.
https://youtu.be/whBMoGJmnh8

[analog agate]

I’m honestly going back to VB (being rending or blaze) in high havocs unless I play with people here. VB is just so clutch compared to inferno

[thick pier]

VB feels like it's the objectively strongest staff but has the highest skill floor to see good results with too

Inferno staff is just so simple even an idiot can make it work

[strong gulch]

That's been my feeling. Even regular M21 goobers can run up to you on inferno. That armor density plus ranged has been making me favor trauma.

Ye, inferno is simple to use. That is a strength in and of itself.

[torn kernel]

I heavily dislike inferno's lack of a long range option ngl

[thick pier]

yeah Brainblast or Assail are hard required for an Inferno build

[nocturne dust]

but you can also just stun everything by spinning like a disco ball

[strong gulch]

but big bois

big bois butt

[nocturne dust]

big bois aren't real

they can't hurt you

[strong gulch]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-i-dont-think-they-dont-exist-wesley-and-buttercup-the-princess-bride-gif-13835808

[strong gulch]

rous

[deft stump]

@plucky flax Warren cranial and pus skin. Yes, I'm awake and sending this before I forget.

[fiery wigeon]

are grunts really that much trouble at high havoc

[weary idol]

not the melee ones really, but the basic shooters with guns can instantly break your toughness

oh in high havoc basic shooters are public enemy number 1

they can instantly kill you

[fiery wigeon]

that sounds miserable

[nocturne dust]

Have. E z. Havoc 40. Next.

[nocturne dust]

It kinda is

[strong gulch]

It's not super bad or anything; but with the higher density, hitmass, etc on high havoc, the melee hordes can get up on you more which is even more compromising in mixed hordes. Especially when crusher packs also show up.

[weary idol]

not my clip, but correct

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1314074213249974293/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_Replay_2024.12.04-13.09_Clip_1.mp4?ex=6785343a&is=6783e2ba&hm=60b051ca7c3ab50f9d499896ba0da0e22acb1666cdf4085593fb26a62c0bdf82&

He was getting shot by t w o enemies here btw

[strong gulch]

But yeah. Shooters, even a single non-gunner shooter, can reck you everything quickly.

[weary idol]

and not stalkers

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, shooters are stupid broken

[fiery wigeon]

holy fuck

[weary idol]

stalkers shoot faster and more aggressively

[nocturne dust]

on havoc

[weary idol]

even not on havoc

[nocturne dust]

for some reason they also have like triple the bullets

[weary idol]

havoc just makes them worse

[nocturne dust]

Nah

Shooters aren't that bad at all outside of Havoc

Just slide

[weary idol]

stalkers sure fucking are

[nocturne dust]

Stalkers or no

[fiery wigeon]

i havent had any issues with basic shooters in normal stuff

idk what stalkers are

[weary idol]

stalkers are the scabs with short sleeve shirts, and all of the dreg shooters are stalkers

they fire faster, resist suppression, and are much more aggressive

[jovial juniper]

Scab Stalkers

Usually paired with shotgunners

[weary idol]

if you don't avoid their shot any one of them can down any classes toughness in a single burst (except ogryn or zealot with their damage reduction active)

[deft stump]

The one with a rag on face...

If you can even see, lul.

[fiery wigeon]

shotgunners as soon as you figure out sliding avoids bullets:

[weary idol]

these guys are the stalkers btw

[nocturne dust]

there's no way they're that damaging in auric

[fiery wigeon]

ah

[weary idol]

and every dreg that has a gun is also a stalker

[fiery wigeon]

ohhhh

i thought those were the default "dude with gun"

[weary idol]

their main features they have that the normal traitor guardsmen don't have is that they can walk while firing, and fire much faster in short bursts

also they generally don't use cover and prefer to stay about 10 meters from you firing non-stop

[weary idol]

they do about a quarter of my 211 toughness ogryn built like this with every burst

[noble mason]

poor dude got SMOKED

[uneven gull]

What do I want to be 60 on the inferno staff

[weary idol]

warp res

[uneven gull]

That’s what i figured

Thanks

[nocturne dust]

This is not the damage that was promised

[maiden oracle]

You can set psykarium enemy diff to hav 40?

[weary idol]

no

[nocturne dust]

I specified Auric

[maiden oracle]

Whoops

You can set it to auric?

[weary idol]

auric doesn't change enemy stats from normal damn

[maiden oracle]

I thought it was just up to damnation

[nocturne dust]

Auric is just Dam

[maiden oracle]

Ah

[strong gulch]

Watching a H40 vid and there's 2 captains and a pus-hardened plaugryn up.

[maiden oracle]

I’m cooked

[nocturne dust]

Auric just ups spawns

[strong gulch]

You need mods for that.

[maiden oracle]

Ah ok

[nocturne dust]

is mod for it?

[strong gulch]

Idk if there is a regular meatgrinder havoc mod, but you can combine creature spawner with true solo to get havoc missions and spawn in enemies.

[nocturne dust]

meh

not the same

[strong gulch]

not the same

I forgot that this is a mod. This is one of those "should be base game" mods. https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/69

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, I don't have that mod

I just use the escape menu

[thorn cedar]

there's a lot of mourningstar ui stuff that really should exist

like being able to craft while in the psykh

why is that not a thing

why wouldnt i want to immediately test two breakpoints

[torn kernel]

Because they want you to Interact™️ with the Game World™️ and be Immersed™️

[strong gulch]

Block on menu or chat in a mission.

[thorn cedar]

no thats the reason for running around when youre still in the mourningstar

like to the mission board, hadron, etc.

but the psykh is a whole other load screen

that i have to put a load on the servers popping in and out of it

just to make triple sure that i want 25% flak or maniac

is just

like bad design lmao

inexcusable

[strong gulch]

rip if you have memory issues

[torn kernel]

Lmao yeah

[tender lynx]

What's the appropriate target for Voidblast to avoid annoying other players, like just behind the "front line" of whoever is fighting?

[torn kernel]

Push things into the guy up front so they get more

[thick pier]

getting instantly killed by just two shooters in high Havoc has made me seethe like nothing else

[torn kernel]

Just don't blow it up right underneath them lol

[thorn cedar]

put the pillar thingy under your teammate

or slightly behind them

[torn kernel]

This kills the zealot/ogryn/melee vet

[thorn cedar]

best way to ensure you dont accidentally trap them by throwing fodder around

[torn kernel]

Might as well be taking away all their toughness replenishment

[thorn cedar]

oh its not to kill shit, although it does

its to keep the ragers staggered

etc

[torn kernel]

Fair

[thorn cedar]

i basically bounce it between two targets, either two teammates or myself and one teammate

[torn kernel]

Feed fodder at them tbh

They could use a snack

[strong gulch]

If you have melee frontliners like zealot and ogryn who likely need to kill things to get toughness back then hit the back of the pack of enemies to send them to your teammates. If thing are breaking through the front line, correct that. If there are shooters while this is happening, prioritize them.

If you have a vet or othe psyker trying to take care of ranged but are getting surrounded, focus on what is in melee range.

If everything is all good and no one needs toughness and you're bascially just waiting for the horde to be killed, blast the feck out of it.

[thorn cedar]

yea potato traumas

[strong gulch]

If you blast enemies behind team, also take care of those.

[deft stump]

More like, Look, that H40 guy with that new 2.9k set, GO BUY IT. Or Look, that h35 guy with an old 2.4k set. TOO BAD, FOMO for you.

[weary idol]

my ogryn with an old 800 set

+400 hat

how's that for a blast from the past

when a shirt+pants combo was only 800

pretty sure they did that in two store rotations ever

[torn kernel]

Honestly I'd be fine with a faster rotation

[weary idol]

I'm not looking for half measures

rotation should be removed entirely

[torn kernel]

Agreed

[torn kernel]

But considering Tencent's involvement i doubt that's ever gonna happen lmao

[patent mango]

500 slop hobo rotations

3 sold

[strong gulch]

After my partner farted, he yelled, "Bless this ravaged body!" lmao

[weary idol]

did you know Path of Exile is owned by Tencent too

[patent mango]

what isnt owned by tencent

[weary idol]

and they're a F2P game

with cheaper store prices

[torn kernel]

Jesus christ, PoE?

[weary idol]

yeah they've been owned by Tencent for a looooooong time

[torn kernel]

I just remember back when tencent bought out warframe and the grind went up massively

[weary idol]

It's warframe it has been infamous for adding new content islands and grind with every update since before it was even popular

That's not a Tencent thing

[patent mango]

i had like 2 things to grind in 1999 lol

(latest update)

[torn kernel]

I haven't touched it since uhhh

What was that "open world" shit called

[patent mango]

unironically just messaging my npc squad on in game discor was 1999 for me

[weary idol]

Plains of Eidolon?

[torn kernel]

Yeah that

[patent mango]

pains of eidolon was by far the grindiest

[weary idol]

hell no it wasn't

Fortuna

Baruuk and Hildryn

[prime elk]

game was fun for a while

and then i grinded out literally everything

[patent mango]

oh i skipped that with orb mother event

lmao

[prime elk]

and then decided i need my life back

[weary idol]

Also meta amps

You had to reach max level in the default fortuna faction, and then max level in the 2nd fortuna faction

to make either of them

[patent mango]

its over

[torn kernel]

I kinda stopped doing anything back then tbh i just ended up trading rivens

[weary idol]

and fortuna drop rates/standing gain have been buffed massively since then

oh and heres a fun and old grind to consider

How about Equinox when they released

[patent mango]

grinding nidus was horrible tbh

[torn kernel]

No pls

[weary idol]

no bad luck protection

power creep hasn't hit yet so Tyl Regors fight is actually kinda hard

eight warframe parts

[patent mango]

new powercreep just dropped 🔥

darktide in 10 years will be wf

[weary idol]

even with power creep and just one shotting the guy it takes forever to get Equinox if you want their subsume

[vagrant onyx]

Warframe in my darktide chat

[torn kernel]

'member AFKing defense w/ Banshee? I 'member

[weary idol]

resonance meta was so awful

[vagrant onyx]

Tfw unironically really like onlyne

[patent mango]

gonna slot in 8 attack speed mods on ds4

[torn kernel]

I know lol

[weary idol]

and honestly that version of banshee would be par for the course these days

[torn kernel]

Press 4 and put a movie on

[vagrant onyx]

You can kind of scratch that old itch again with how much the energy meta has changed and with precision intensify

[weary idol]

actually there might be a chance that peak resonance Banshee wouldn't be popular in the modern meta

Because she's too damn slow

[torn kernel]

Holy shit

[patent mango]

in wf i just play voruna and melee everything with a greatsword

[silver quarry]

Obscurus blade best psyker sword overall?

[patent mango]

my playstyle is so varied in games with melee

[vagrant onyx]

Uhhhhhh

[silver quarry]

I play excal in warframe

[torn kernel]

Last time i played i just memed shit with max power volt

Nyoom

[prime elk]

for the 1h swords yeah

[silver quarry]

Is the psyker great sword good at everything?

[vagrant onyx]

Dueling sword has entered the chat

[prime elk]

yes

it's good

[vagrant onyx]

Yes

[patent mango]

yea

[prime elk]

at everything

[torn kernel]

Pretty much yea

[prime elk]

the only real downside of the fgs is that it's slow

[weary idol]

yes it's just slow

fatshark has learned how to make a good greatsword

[patent mango]

fgs benefits from the 3 movement thingamabobs a lot

[weary idol]

it only took them the entirety of vermintide 2s update cycle to do so

[patent mango]

only took up till pickaxe

[torn kernel]

SG + DD fgs is very fun

[vagrant onyx]

Its damage scales so well with finesse it's just your actual DPS because of attack speed doesn't compare as favourably to other stuff

[torn kernel]

Fair

[vagrant onyx]

It's easily my fav melee in this game though

[torn kernel]

Counterpoint
Big slash make many head fly

[vagrant onyx]

I love the mk6 so much

[torn kernel]

Gives neuron activations

[vagrant onyx]

Have you tried the bistol puncture tech

[patent mango]

not yet

[vagrant onyx]

Doesn't matter what tier your slash is, throw it out then swap to bistol and your wave bleeds everything

[torn kernel]

Yea i just wish it did the funny soulblaze on crit one tbh

[vagrant onyx]

True

Feels like a bug that it doesn't work

[torn kernel]

[prime elk]

i tried it

it's pretty funny

too much work though

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-epic-gamer-sweatyspeedrunner-gif-22461398

me force slashing and weapon swapping every half second

if you play it normally, it's prob just some nice bonus damage though

[vagrant onyx]

Good for peril edging though

[prime elk]

no real harm, i just wanted to see how far i could take the meme

so was only force slashing the entire game

conclusion: not worth

[torn kernel]

Lmao

[tidal violet]

I feel like Psyker-specific weapon Marks could be one of the easiest things to implement and help a ton, especially with opening up weapon variety.

• That shotgun with flaming rounds, just make them Soulflame.
• Combat knife, but the bleed blessings do SF instead and it can quell.

[vagrant onyx]

Soulflame shotgun would be

[tidal violet]

I could keep going, but TBH I think I just want a blue or purple node somewhere that converts any fire damage (Looking at you, Infernus) into SF.

[strong gulch]

RIP KF procs on burning enemies.

Wish all DoTs could proc KF.

[weary crane]

I really wanted to use the shotguns because of their cool crit blessings but they just don't perform well at all

[strong gulch]

I haven't used them. I know @mossy oyster really enjoys thems.

[weary crane]

I'm pretty sure you can give an entire horde 6 stacks of bleed from the spread shotgun

[wispy bay]

Shotgun has so low ammo and barely okish damage at slightly longer than melee range.

[weary crane]

I haven't seen anyone use the double barrel since it came out 💀

[prime elk]

DB is great

combat shotguns... not so much

[bronze storm]

I use it on zealot on one of my martyrdom builds, other then that not much

[wispy bay]

DB is good, not "great" imo.

[nocturne dust]

DB is fine, the main issue is that it's kinda just a worse voidstrike

Faster to swap around with tho if you're into the gunker playstyle

[wispy bay]

I occassionally use it on Vet or zealot.

[prime elk]

DB is super niche, but it's good at the niche and fun (so great in my book)

mostly the fun factor carrying the gun for me though

[wispy bay]

The double shot can 1 tap so many things.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/argument-meme-gif-27569105

[wispy bay]

Run n gun on it is actually fun.

[wispy bay]

It and the totally not Desert Eagle are the reason that the Combat shotgun is obsolete.

DB shotgun at least has actual damage.

[weary crane]

You know what

Nerf autopistol

[nocturne dust]

and buff ds4

ds4 is falling behind in Havoc so it needs a buff

[zinc phoenix]

Surety of arms turns it into a pretty solid peril generator with much faster firing

[nocturne dust]

can't oneshot everything 😭

[weary crane]

Yeah it needs parry

[zinc phoenix]

Which if you’re doing a peril gobbling meleeker is handy

[nocturne dust]

give ds4 parry

and built-in deflector

and make it count as a shield so it can block overheads

[wispy bay]

It needs passive parry.

[nocturne dust]

and give it headtaker

[wispy bay]

And keep the special thrust to reset your H1.

[nocturne dust]

and make its lights horizontal

also triple the cleave for all attacks

[wispy bay]

Also stagger chance

[deft stump]

Naw, the special needs to knock down bosses.

[nocturne dust]

Including captains through their shields

[deft stump]

Anything in the area around said boss also gets knocked down and dealt damage.

[vagrant onyx]

POW should be like ogryn frag bomb

[torn kernel]

Soulblaze POW when

FS pls

Let me die a fiery death

[strong gulch]

Let it apply at least SB 12 stacks with out a cap.

[torn kernel]

Wish granted, it applies 12 stacks in total divided between nearby enemies

Just 1 stack each, wildfire style

[minor wedge]

Note to self, traumastaff is my new favorite.

Jeezus christ the clutch I just pulled off in a heresy maelstrom

XD

[strong gulch]

[vagrant onyx]

The monkey paw curls

[still valve]

I want to post my talent tree for input because I’m kinda new and don’t know small optimization things

Can I DM someone the picture who has image perms and you can post it for me

Because I sadly can’t

[wispy bay]

You can interact/chat here for a bit and you will be granted the red name and permission to post picture.

[still valve]

Like how long?

[wispy bay]

Now?

[still valve]

I’ve already been around for a little bit

WHAT

[wispy bay]

Try to upload pic

[still valve]

That was insane timing

[wispy bay]

Your name just turned red...

[still valve]

Anyways putting aside that nutty timing I’m running inferno staff

[wispy bay]

I recommend Quietude over Soul Stealer. Remove Soul Drinker, replace it with Psykinetic Aura.

[minor wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-cupid-in-love-you-got-me-gif-14266112

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide Here, read this

[minor wedge]

Just found a 420 3 stam

[wispy bay]

Inner Tranquillity can be replaced with something else, like the passive 5% crit chance if you want the crit chance from Soul Drinker that much.

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker is almost never worth it

Take the 5% ranged damage boost node before Souldrinker

It's just too far from normal Inferno

builds

[still valve]

Mmm I see

Thank you I will do some edits

[nocturne dust]

[wispy bay]

The one leads to Souldrinker is 5% toughness damage reduction and melee attack speed.

Which are acceptable variation imo.

[minor wedge]

oof

[wispy bay]

SoulDrinker is meh.

[minor wedge]

it took me so long to get a 60% cleave duelsword that my funds now run low

XD

Time to grind some MONEY!

[nocturne dust]

You don't need melee attack speed at all on any semi-serious Inferno build

because Inferno is your melee

[wispy bay]

Right

I use some multi purpose build.

[nocturne dust]

Fair. The meta is definitely just 'this staff solves everything except 2 occasional enemies'

[pure karma]

Assail + inferno staff + great blaze force is kinda amazing, wanted to share it

[wispy bay]

I mean, the meta and acceptable my slightly off are just 2 nodes difference, which are easy to change.

That off build is fun with Strike staff medium range.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Strike's builds are wildly different from the other staves.

If you made a detour to warp splitting, the would always make sense with Strike

[torn kernel]

Hold on does warp splitting affect voidstrike's rmb?

I thought it was capped

[nocturne dust]

capped?

[strong gulch]

yes

[nocturne dust]

Warp Splitting affects Voidstrike RMB, yes

[torn kernel]

Oh this'll be fun

[strong gulch]

Weapons have set cleave but there are blessings and talents that can increase them.

[torn kernel]

Omw to make yet another psyker build for the 4th time this week

[wispy bay]

Most of the time you don't even need warp splitting to be honest.

[strong gulch]

Warp splitting affects everything. It works on FGS, assail, voidstrike, etc.

[nocturne dust]

[wispy bay]

Maybe vs crusher or if the ball gets stopped by mauler head...

[nocturne dust]

Warp Splitting is the sole node allowing Voidstrike to reach its old heights of pre-True-Aim-nerf

[torn kernel]

Though tbh i could just slap vs in my melee build

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike cannot cleave carapace

[wispy bay]

Yes, that's what I mean.

[nocturne dust]

But Warp Splitting does let you literally funnel enemies through a hallway and wipe out every single thing

in a single crit

[torn kernel]

I'm gonna find a hi int transit mover and just blast down the hallway

[nocturne dust]

Like, Voidstrike is very dependent on positioning, but once you have that down you can mow with Warp Splitting

[wispy bay]

I find its cleave is quite enough 95% of the time without warp splitting.

[torn kernel]

Seeing like 6 rager kill notifications in one shot is just

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's about playstyle

You definitely can work without warp splitting

[torn kernel]

But the meme

[nocturne dust]

but if you take advantage, it is far stronger with

[wispy bay]

The majority of the map doesn't have enough long straight hall way to make use of it for me.

[nocturne dust]

You don't need a long hallway

You just need a funnel

and there are plenty of doorways

[torn kernel]

Chokepoints are plenty tbf

[nocturne dust]

like, Voidstrike's cleave is only... 12 or something iirc

which sounds like a lot

[torn kernel]

Voidstrike makes me feel like moses parting the sea in open maps anyway

[wispy bay]

I would switch to melee in such case more than using strike.

[nocturne dust]

but keep in mind a lot of elites got their cleave values buffed

especially shotgunners

[nocturne dust]

Play how you want but

melee does not compete with any staff

except FGS, but that's because it has a massive ranged slice attack and is secretly a staff

[torn kernel]

Aren't they only like, 2.5 or something

Pulling numbers out of my ass here though so idk

I just know they feel a lot thicker than they should

[nocturne dust]

4

dregs at least

so just 3 of them eats all your cleave and you can cleave literally nothing else

[torn kernel]

That explains a lot tbh

[sturdy reef]

been fucking around with this

on inferno

[nocturne dust]

Banned

Deleted

[sturdy reef]

lul

[nocturne dust]

Removed

[sturdy reef]

I just wanted a build with souldrinker lmao

[nocturne dust]

so why EP

[sturdy reef]

I was also debating making it keystoneless

[nocturne dust]

so why SG

[sturdy reef]

because

I like it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/porkules-kevin-tod-smith-ares-god-of-war-xwp-gif-27653391

[sturdy reef]

I dont like shriek

[nocturne dust]

and you like the crummy +dmg buff instead?

[sturdy reef]

ya

I just like staying at max peril

[nocturne dust]

Edgers

https://tenor.com/view/lawn-gif-24570222

[sturdy reef]

yup

chronic peril edger

[plucky flax]

Based build best I've ever seen veri op

[torn kernel]

2 melee kill contracts from melk this week on my psyker

[strong gulch]

Please give us 2 more talent points.

[torn kernel]

but but muh decision making & build diversity

[bronze storm]

Nah let us have everything in the tee

[strong gulch]

"build diversity" psyker has it better in that regard considering zealot, but... Well lol

[bronze storm]

All three abilities at once

[torn kernel]

lmao

[plucky flax]

Don't ask zealot chat about build diversity they only know how to play throwing knives.

[untold niche]

For those who have played vt2, is it actually hard or just as romanticised as darktide's difficulty

[untold niche]

Zealot chat do love their tknife lmao

[plucky flax]

It's hard in a different way.

You have to be much better at melee.

A lot more blocking since weapons don't cleave as much.

As least up until I stopped playing.

No slide and sprint so no free dodges via talents.

[torn kernel]

the mobility (or lack thereof) was the hardest thing to adjust to if you're playing vt2 after dt in my experience

[upbeat kestrel]

Play kerilian

An be mobile

Talking about vermintide. Huntsmab kruber is the best with handgun

[strong gulch]

I'd say VT2 was harder pre havoc; but like Agent said, it's harder in a different way.

It's a bit clunkier and has more jank than DT. It's also more methodical and has more moments of just running with nothing attacking you.

[upbeat kestrel]

Timings are different

But my friend that started with darktide said it shows that i have played vt2

[granite saddle]

My friend and I use incendiary nades

[torn kernel]

tru

[prime elk]

yeah beacuse it's fucking amazing

like how ogryns love rocks

[untold niche]

Yeah I would say the melee is much more impactful. Especially since even trash do good damage

[plucky flax]

And hammer on bardin feels really good to use.

Compared to thunder hammer here which is super slow and lackluster.

And the light attack does pitiful armour damage.

[next venture]

Been popping heads at 3 charges on Malice but still no progress on this Pennance. Is it like the eye pop one for Ogryn where its info hasn't been fully updated so it kinda lies?

[summer prairie]

not empowered charges

you need warp siphon

[next venture]

Ah....that would do it

Gonna make Pop spam a bit slower but Vent spam should fix it

[untold niche]

Slayer bardin? I want to try that alongside Gk
Currently playing sienna. But levels feel like they matter alotbdue to the talents

[plucky flax]

Yeah slayer bardin is very cool.

If you play sienna try the bolt staff it was my fav

So much better than voidstrike.

[untold niche]

Yeah I'm playing it but I don't have all the levels yet. I'm at 20

So it doesn't deal that much damage

[summer prairie]

ranger vet gets bistol

[untold niche]

Bolt feels like slower voidstrike. The projectile travel also feels really weird

[summer prairie]

it partly felt better because the game was more melee focused and you didn't have to compete with other 3 ranged players

but the charge time was also a bit quicker with buffs

[plucky flax]

Shortbow waystalker spamming say hi

[maiden oracle]

Assuming you don’t come across a gf bh or a outcast engie

Or the elf

[untold niche]

Idk am I weird for going DT --> VT2
I heard DT feels better which I agree. But vt2 feels slightly more punishing ( maybe it'd because I don't have levels yet)

[maiden oracle]

Darktide gives you a lot more freedom in pretty much eveyrthing

Vermintide gives skaven slaves the same amount of attack power as a crusher overhead

[summer prairie]

the bosses were a lot more fun/engaging as you actually had to kite it away from your team if there was a horde and one mistake would down you. Also no nonsense random target switching

in DT most boss attacks just tickle you

[untold niche]

Vt2 boss aggro feels random at times too tho.

[summer prairie]

it was still based on damage done, of course if you just blocked and ran away, it could switch

[untold niche]

Honestly I want this in dt

[maiden oracle]

Minotaur

Wallahi

[untold niche]

Wallahi means I swear right

I swear on god?

[maiden oracle]

To god

[plucky flax]

Ye you can hold a rat ogre forever.

And rat ogre is much faster than plague ogryn.

[untold niche]

I swear to God
Wallahi is Arabic. It literally means “by God”. Perhaps it can be loosely translated to “I swear to God”.

[summer prairie]

rat ogre has the same kind of overhead as plague ogryn, but longer range and you had to dodge it earlier

and plague ogryn does no damage

[untold niche]

They should just make dt2 where its dt rpg systems but vt2 difficulty

[summer prairie]

still, I think auric maelstorm is a bit more difficult than vanilla cataclysm, you had to play modded or like 200% twitch to make it challenging for vets

[untold niche]

Idk I'm just playing recruit cw for now. Playing with friends.
We lose on veteran difficulty tho ( pls no laugh all of us are low levelled, like level 5)

Pls no laugh :pepecry:

[maiden oracle]

Cw is harder in the beginning than normal missions

[untold niche]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-sad-gif-4835826683835238847

[maiden oracle]

Dunno about recruit though

[summer prairie]

I couldn't go back to vanilla v2 now, I'd still play peregrinaje though

[maiden oracle]

But in the start of the pilgrimage you get stripped of all your gear and thrown into a modifier shit show so it’s a bit rough lmao

[untold niche]

What's peregrinaje

[maiden oracle]

Had to drop vermintide for darktide my computer couldn’t hold both at the same time

[summer prairie]

it's harder chaos wastes with a ton of new stuff

[maiden oracle]

Unfortunate

[summer prairie]

and class/weapon balances too

[untold niche]

Download more disk dot com

[maiden oracle]

I never really experimented much with characters I just played saltzpyre a shit ton lmao

If it was cw I would go atk spd zealot or crit whc and win

[summer prairie]

a bit outdated list of most changes https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2884482220

[untold niche]

That seems cool

[upbeat kestrel]

After some time i leveled on legend

Also warior priest

[wicked hornet]

@plucky flax Do you have a link to that Zealot build you used last night? Wanted to try the class out and the last I played the class was a year ago lol

[plucky flax]

Ye but it's really bad I don't recommend it

Play ds4 instead

[wicked hornet]

okay

[plucky flax]

Something like this is safer just spam f and vibe
https://youtu.be/stov_TjL-z4

Need another zealot so I can play proper relic in havoc

Or I can just do it and get flamed

Where choir?!

[summer prairie]

sorry i only have one build

[wicked hornet]

until my internet is fixed I can't play with anyone in the EU. Last night was horrendous and I felt horrible. Yall were great and did that 3 man.

[quartz barn]

People have gotten so used to meta zealot build that you can get flamed for running toughness dr over cleanse even when theres no green goo...

Meanwhile flamer gets no comment because fire mechanics hard to understand

[noble mason]

just do it. nobody flames anyone if you win

[plucky flax]

You underestimate people's inability to play at a decent level

[quartz barn]

Need to do something while youre down

[vernal temple]

this looks fairly manageable

as long as it's not Gloriana map

[hearty wolf]

Not another Gloriana hater...

People hate the snow...

S++ tier map

[hearty wolf]

Those people are just dumb

That being said

I for some reason argued that you should run beacon when I knew it was wrong just to argue with someone

Then was the first one to down and die

Felt like an extraterrestrial event

[untold niche]

GUID: 3c97cc51-47c3-4c6e-a540-ff74b057d079
Log File: 
Info Type: 
-----------------------------------------------
[Script Error]: scripts/foundation/utilities/game_state_machine.lua:37: attempt to index global 'GameStateDebugInfo' (a nil value)
-----------------------------------------------
[Crash Link]:
crashify://3c97cc51-47c3-4c6e-a540-ff74b057d079

any one has any idea

[summer prairie]

update darktide mod loader

[untold niche]

you mean run the bat file or actual mod loader files

[summer prairie]

actual files

[quartz barn]

Those = most

[untold niche]

worked thanks dude

[cold geode]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/246

Do yourself a solid and install this

No more dicking with a text file

[untold niche]

GUID: 4c4293f3-d32a-403f-a47c-7adcb06aac0f
Log File:
Info Type:

[Script Error]: scripts/managers/ui/ui_hud.lua:228: attempt to index local 'class' (a boolean value)

i managed to get into char slect lo

[summer prairie]

well you also have to update many other things if you haven't updated anything since early december

[untold niche]

oh ye

hmm, lemem go try

[summer prairie]

sounds like NumericUI

[cold geode]

Lol maybe hit the mod bugs chat?

https://discord.com/channels/1048312349867646996/1079236212239384597

https://www.nexusmods.com/users/myaccount?tab=download+history

This page on Nexus mods should show you a list of everything you've downloaded and provide download links to it all if you need to update them

[vernal temple]

I love the snow, I don't even hate the starting part of the map, but I absolutely despise the synchronisters event

[quartz barn]

Not a fan of the auto load/order mod

But tbh this depends on what mods and how many you use

[untold niche]

i don't want to use that either

[quartz barn]

Because as long as you know what mods tend to break you're fine

Also ye your crash is most def numericui, that one broke a while ago with the havoc update

[untold niche]

yeah i went to update everything, thanks syllogism and NUT

[quartz barn]

Pretty sure its the peril tag

[cold geode]

I have 120 installed. It works fine.

[quartz barn]

Because i fixed that manually xd

[untold niche]

wow

https://tenor.com/view/hackerman-gif-22344136

[hearty wolf]

The mid event?

[quartz barn]

I mean you just change 3 words

[untold niche]

at brunt armourcan you not choose the weapon variant now?
like m3 heavy evisc vs mk 15

[untold niche]

you would have to know what to change tho

[quartz barn]

Follow guide

[vernal temple]

yeah. normally when you start it and all hell breaks lose everyone completely forgets about the synchronisters and when one pops, the team is too dispersed around the room

[untold niche]

mr NUT plos answer

[cold geode]

You just buy a base weapon then change it in your inventory to whatever mark you want

[untold niche]

ah thanks thy

[hearty wolf]

Ah I see. Sometimes spam pinging can be the play.

It's actually probably the fastest mid event in the game if done correctly.

[cold geode]

Yep

[hearty wolf]

Unless I'm forgetting one

[vernal temple]

if done correctly

yeah, if the team is stacked together and jumps from one synchronister to the other, then it's fast and easy. but that practically never happens

[untold niche]

damn they really made the game much less grindy

[hearty wolf]

This is why I only play premades

Then complain the game is too easy

:)

[hearty wolf]

Yes

[vernal temple]

I practically never use the lfg and voice channels, so I play with randos

and most of the time randos are as dumb as a pile of bricks

if hundreds of hours of playing Battlefield 1 has taught me anything, it's that in order to win the game you gotta PTFO

[cold geode]

Played over 5000 hours now. 95% of it with random people. I don't know how I'm not insane or on the verge of jumping out an airlock.

[hearty wolf]

At least you get into more solos which tends to be more fun

[quartz barn]

Have you seen the reaper kills penance???

[vernal temple]

just in general the ogryn enemy penances are ridiculous

it's been what, 6 weeks since the update? So far I've only accumulated roughly 800 bullwark and crusher kills, yet less than 500 reaper kills

that 1500 reaper kill frame will be the ultimate flex

[fluid gust]

hi anyone know what a good dump stat for the psyker staffs is?

deems to be quell speed but not sure

[upper sun]

warp resist is the best dump stat for most of them unless you intent on spamming the left mouse button

quell speed scales more drastically than warp resist as well

the difference is more noticable between 60-80 quell than 60-80 warp res

[vernal temple]

on Voidstrike you can probably also consider blast radius as a dump stat

[untold niche]

wat is it

[upper sun]

filling my onedrive with copies of the same image so microshit cant use it

[cold geode]

All I have left lol

[deft stump]

You get 1-3 reapers a damnation run. You need 1.5k kills of them and only the killer/kser gets credit.

[vernal temple]

yeah, same here. the 3 ogryn penances and the "havoc cache" ones. or as someone called them "see you in june"

[deft stump]

There are up to 4 people chasing it per run.

So you technically can get 0 kills every run.

[vernal temple]

best source of reapers is probably the "mostly ranged enemies" maelstroms

[untold niche]

pretty sure a5 spawns more than 3
Also whats the reward?

[vernal temple]

a profile frame

[deft stump]

Is luck based, you can get more. I just usually see 1 on heresy and around 3 on damnation.

[vernal temple]

I killed 1500 reapers and all I got was this lousy profile frame

[deft stump]

Heh.

[untold niche]

no im saying auricdamnation

[vernal temple]

though to be fair, the ogryn frames look cool

my fav is still the mauler one

[hardy delta]

i just had like 30 reapers on the 37 havoc

not talking about other elites

[deft stump]

I mean, high int sts will probs have more. Same for late havocs. I just don't play enough or is panicking too much to count.

But on the normal board, yeah.

[untold niche]

not probably, imsaying it does hvemore tha n 3 lmao
my game just now just had 3 repers spawn together

iwould expectany regular here to play aurci damnation tbh

[deft stump]

I rather not be a burden to randos. I have seen too many worse than me in them already.

[untold niche]

getbetter then

[summer prairie]

here's a random above average reaper count for h40

can be higher though

[upper sun]

@marble crater hi whenever you're free could you put into a few words your experience leveling a 5th char and ur play time you can dm it to me if you want

[marble crater]

Yeah I will DM you later

[deft stump]

I know two gremlins suffering as well. It also sucks being locked from weapons they wanna try out.

[upper sun]

thank u making a thread about it in the forums soon ish

[upper sun]

im not suffering i cheated enough to get a keystone

now the game is playable for my baby

[untold niche]

clad wat game ?

[upper sun]

this one

i made a second zealot

[deft stump]

They can't and I can only really solo carry malice till the lag screws me over.

[upper sun]

i just played auric with agent and sut and switched chars towards the end

[untold niche]

shoudlnt the experience be easier then?

[deft stump]

They were lvl 5.

[untold niche]

i dun get it

[upper sun]

its not just easier i bypassed it

but i shouldnt have to do that it shouldnt be this bad

[untold niche]

what do you mean?

[marble crater]

Leveling in this game is painful

[deft stump]

They barely did any damage unloading their guns into anything bigger than groaners

[untold niche]

i don't get it did something change?

[upper sun]

i tried doing heresy when i was level 17 my team wiped and i spent 4 minutes grinding down a pogryn my level 30 zealot could have killed in 30 seconds

[marble crater]

No, nothing changed

[upper sun]

levelling is awful

[untold niche]

iirc i played the difficulties some levels after the recommnded levels

[deft stump]

I mean, to be fair. I need to shoot something 4x to kill them on my Bolt Pistol, but I'm fighting 200-280 ping

[untold niche]

imo the only one i found that doesn't feel good was psyker

i think i levelled each to 30 in 2 weeks

[upper sun]

no way its worse than ogryn

[untold niche]

my first character was ogryn

it was orite

[upper sun]

lmao

[untold niche]

because my psyker i didn't play the meta levelling build

[upper sun]

you my friend are a glutton for pain

[untold niche]

i ran void as soon as i could

i got insulted lmao

void without talents andperks was a pea shooter

i held on becaus i wanted to get used to quell sliding and the genral gameplay feel

[untold niche]

i think the important part was i did NOT run assail

[upper sun]

whyy

[untold niche]

it looked gay af so i didnt want to run it

[deft stump]

Su basically is doing that. Painful indeed. Also no peril slow/quell sucks.

[untold niche]

people were killing stuff before i could even melee them, be it elites or trash when i was levelling (with them using assail)

[untold niche]

whats su?
Also, when i was levelling, the 30% quell speed was a legit power spike lmao

but personally i feel it didnt take that long on the other classes

[deft stump]

@marble crater that's Su.

[untold niche]

and im someone who don't like to play grindy games (will just stop playing randomly one day)

oh sutv

(tbf even if you t yped sutv i would have asked as well)

wait so are we doing low level runs?

i could be the ogryn

@upper sun

[upper sun]

nah im like level 24 now

[untold niche]

tsk

[marble crater]

I'm just leveling a second psyker to have enough loadouts for auric and havoc, because no mods

[upper sun]

i can solo form here on out

[untold niche]

start over then :v

we should play low level runs together

[upper sun]

same but zealot 😭

[deft stump]

I see. But yeah. Not fun to be a sub 16 psyker.

[untold niche]

oh yeah i forgot you guys are on gamepss

skrubs

oh yeah clad

why are you buying gamepass?

like legit asking

do you like the catalogue?

iirc its like 10 bucks per mont

[upper sun]

im on geforce now

i own the game on steam

[deft stump]

I can't afford subs, but it might be cheaper than $20-$30 for a game you play once.

[untold niche]

tbh same line of questions then, isnt geforce now expensive as well

[deft stump]

It was in HC though for $12.

[untold niche]

hc?

[upper sun]

its 12 euro a month

and it runs the games for me

[deft stump]

Humble Choice.

Nov 2024.

[untold niche]

i assume you dont want to buy a PC?

[upper sun]

ye

[deft stump]

It was when I got a copy from a friend who already had it.

[fiery wigeon]

its pretty big

ive played a ton of games through it

[untold niche]

damn, yeah then geforce now would be more worth though (if it has good ping for u)

[upper sun]

yeah its pretty good

[untold niche]

my man making good financial decisions

[upper sun]

🚬 first time for everything

[untold niche]

maybei should try one day

though i feel like i would get irritated by lik e10ms input lag

[deft stump]

Is like playing with stupid ping anyway, I guess. But the question is the compounded lag.

[fluid gust]

ah alr ty

[idle aurora]

reapers are also more common on "mostly ranged enemies" condition in aurics

[hearty wolf]

So is the argument that there shouldn't be any resources and no levels so you always do max damage?

[worthy wasp]

Alright, I have a question

I was considering using Souldrinker with Purge Staff, but it takes quite a few points to get there.

How is Purge with Assail + Souldrinker, skipping Wildfire + Perilous Combustion + Psykinetics Aura?

[marble crater]

Souldrinker is not a good talent

[worthy wasp]

Alright, question 2

How is Purge + Telekine Shield vs VS?

[marble crater]

They are both great, just depends on what you want to play. Shield for defensive and havoc, shriek for offensive and not havoc

[upbeat kestrel]

Usable but venting shriek does more damage

[worthy wasp]

Just wanted to make sure VS wasn't seen as "must pick" with purge, I havent tested or mathed it

[upbeat kestrel]

It not a must but is is preferres

[marble crater]

One protects from shooters, the other kills the shooters

[upbeat kestrel]

Yeah

[marble crater]

Shriek also has a lot of utility and defensive capabilities. You can stagger trappers, hounds, bursters. You can rescue your team from a hound up to 30m away, through walls.

[elfin mortar]

Can the rmb from the voidblast staff crit?

[wind spruce]

Yes

That's how blazing spirit works

[wind spruce]

I'd half forgotten how useful the stagger is on shriek... haven't used it in like two months. Thanks havoc.

[marble crater]

I like Havoc because it's difficult, I don't like Havoc because of why it's difficult

[wind spruce]

Same, but I'm also not sure how else you inflate the difficulty.

[upper sun]

straw man!!!!!

i want longer tutorials

that allow players to gain extra xp and more knowledge about the game in a faster way

[deft stump]

Tutorials that teach newbies that doesn't rely on others to teach them.

[upper sun]

yeah

a poxburster pusher

[deft stump]

Live and in raw situations.

[upper sun]

a dog pusher

a simulated mission run where dukane and sefoni yell at you

[deft stump]

Just have an invul bot there with an instant push/kill to reset on failure.

[upper sun]

yeah a bot that does nothing but pick you up if you go down

[deft stump]

Also will show a teammate can save you.

[granite saddle]

i didnt know you could shove poxbursters (i kept hitting them with melee like a moron, though half the time accidental) until i was spectating teammates when i was at a respawn

granted I also forgot you could shove in the game at the time

my dumbass did the tutorial like 3 hours ago and i already forgot half of it at the time

[ocean grotto]

which force greatsword mark do yall use

[wind spruce]

Both are good

[deft stump]

The tutorial sucks anyway. Misses out on so many inportant information.

[wind spruce]

(But, secretly, 6 is better)

[deft stump]

Overhead into thrust best.

[ocean grotto]

im noticing that but I feel like VI feels as op as relic sword and power sword in the sense that u can kill everything with it

[wind spruce]

Yes

[ocean grotto]

VIII is just better horde clear

[deft stump]

Anyone telling you the other wants kraks a voidstrike blast to the face.

[torn kernel]

But but light spam hordeclear

[deft stump]

Are you asking for 45 kraks to your face?

[worthy wasp]

I think I may be going back to Zealot

[wind spruce]

Lmao

[wind spruce]

Ew

[worthy wasp]

The crusher is prob my fav weapon in DT

[ocean grotto]

is there any way to get a blue force greatsword

[worthy wasp]

Its between that and dclaw

[wind spruce]

Buy a grey and upgrade it twice

[torn kernel]

How do you deal with dclaw's horrendous damage vs flak though

[wind spruce]

[ocean grotto]

comestic wise

[deft stump]

Is the legit max. Unless 5% chance and players are considered elites/specialist. Then 46 kraks.

[wind spruce]

You don't, you just accept/embrace the mediocrity

[deft stump]

Cos you can still throw more next to bodies for extreme unamused things.

[deft stump]

Yell at FS, I want a black one.

[torn kernel]

Lmao

[wind spruce]

I know, and no, there's no way

Only one skin out for it atm

Bc fatshark are dumb

[deft stump]

Is going greedy but fails at being greedy.

[young falcon]

I've seen too many psykers try to smite muties and pox bursters tonight

[ocean grotto]

where my guiding moonlight

[wind spruce]

I definitely wouldve bought a premium FGS skin and I haven't bought any premium skins in well over a year

[deft stump]

What is smite? The blue lightning blowing them up?

[wind spruce]

Smiting poxbursters is the most effective way of dealing with them

[deft stump]

Heh.

[young falcon]

Yes

[young falcon]

Then they were doing it wrong because they got blown up everytime

[wind spruce]

Smite pushes the bursties back upon release

And doesn't do enough damage to infested to kill them outright

[torn kernel]

where's that gif of someone using smite to edge a burster

[granite saddle]

Often I'm glad that having yellow toughness negates their corruption damage when a poxburster happens to get through us but a VoC or alike was casted beforehand

[hearty wolf]

Xd

[wind spruce]

It negates all the damage

[young falcon]

Yeah, they didn't do that. They just kept tazing till it was too late.

[deft stump]

I'm talking EK jokes.

[wind spruce]

That's some next level dumb then, because you'd have to be smiting them for a long while and really bloody close to you

[torn kernel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1275147375756841051/edging_poxies.mp4?ex=6785f8c9&is=6784a749&hm=1b680baca827e6273962cea728c86ddd1db3014d838c3077daf6e7891825493f&

behold

[young falcon]

Amazing

Didnt know you could quell cancel smite

[wind spruce]

You can't

[young falcon]

Are they just mashing it?

[wind spruce]

They're just tapping left click and quelling when needed

Yeah

[young falcon]

Ah

[torn kernel]

can't believe i'm actually thinking of making my psyker shorter to get better lineups for fgs

...i'm gonna do it

[deft stump]

You get a krak for that.

[torn kernel]

WHY

[autumn lark]

Smite quell cancel is a different level of sweaty

[torn kernel]

i've been giving poxwalkers haircuts

[marble crater]

My psykers are max height, I like to think it helps with aiming voidblast

[deft stump]

Aim lower.

[torn kernel]

and hit the floor after a few metres? i must blademaxx

[hearty wolf]

I am tall and strong

[vernal temple]

irl?

[hearty wolf]

The opposite of my irl form

[vernal temple]

spoke too soon

[deft stump]

I feel like waking up Kat for this

[wind spruce]

I recall there being a debate about this a long tjme ago and the conclusion was that like 3/4 height was the best trade off

The issue is that enemies aren't all the same height so there's always a downside

[marble crater]

But also an upside, get it?

[deft stump]

I know. You change based on playstyle.

[hearty wolf]

There should be a modifier where you can only see enemies that are roughly your height

[wind spruce]

Shit I meant to respond to sutvvoo

That was about voidstrike

[hearty wolf]

So you need an Ogryn to see crushers and reapers and bulwarks

[torn kernel]

I CAN CROUCH

[hearty wolf]

But also some midget zealot to see all the poxwalkers

[deft stump]

I know. I use the strike. I just aim lower.

[vernal temple]

remind me please, when is new slop hitting the commodore shop?

[wind spruce]

And now I realised you said voidblast @marble crater

Bedtime.

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

Thursday?

[deft stump]

Oh right, he spams trauma.

Still, Strike still fine to be taller. You aim neck lvl generally anyway.

Or be lazy and pull out EK yes.

[wind spruce]

If you aim flat at max height you go over the top of some horde enemies

[marble crater]

I should see if my baby psyker can build EK already, so I can explode with that instead

[wind spruce]

And if you aim down you aren't hitting the heads of elites/specials (with the issue getting worse as they get further away)

[marble crater]

So 3/4, maybe I should do that for when I play voidstrike again, and before I forget about it by then

[wind spruce]

Stand tall, king

Aesthetics > gameplay

[deft stump]

Pifft, I play heresy anyway. Who cares, tall girls gud.

[wind spruce]

I still care about knowing the "correct" choice I just will be tall anyway

[deft stump]

See.

[upper sun]

average height is best

best melee experience

[marble crater]

I don't melee

[wind spruce]

So nearly max height then since most players choose max height

[deft stump]

I just knoifeknoifeknoife unless psyker anyway.

[upper sun]

not tru

ive seen plenty of shorties

[wind spruce]

Most doesn't mean all

It means >50%

[upper sun]

🙄

chat

[wind spruce]

Haha

[deft stump]

Minmaxing oggys? Those will be short lul.

[upper sun]

stub his toes

[upper sun]

my oggie is the shortiest tbh

[wind spruce]

I do enjoy running min height

[strong gulch]

Morning.

[wind spruce]

Smol and cute

Hide behind tiny boxes

[wind spruce]

Goodnight

[upper sun]

kid named hit scan

[deft stump]

Mostly to be able to vault over certain places.

[upper sun]

that never works anyways

[deft stump]

You want a krak, is it?

[deft stump]

Eh?

[upper sun]

vaulting on ogryn is a pain anyways

[marble crater]

Ogryn shouldn't need to vault, should be able to just walk over things

[deft stump]

You mean bonk things aside.

[marble crater]

I meant what I wrote

[deft stump]

Bonus, game has full physics now. Oggy bullrushes.

Hilarity ensures and consoles into bsod.

[marble crater]

Hadron messed up my baby psyker's DS, now I have 78% finesse and 62% cleave, ruined

[strong gulch]

Fare thee well

[deft stump]

Game says, no ds4 for you. Maybe time for force.

[marble crater]

It's annoying me so much that I will definitely buy a different one when I'm lvl 30

[deft stump]

I bought like 6 different minmaxed bolt pistols between my zealot and vet.

[strong gulch]

I bought so many grey bases. Now I need money to upgrade them all .

[deft stump]

I wonder how many more if i bother on psyker lul.

[torn kernel]

so i just tried mk6 fgs

it's uh

a bit of a pain in the ass

[deft stump]

You just h1-h2 everything that isn't small?

[torn kernel]

my murderous tranq isn't activating

it's too diagonal

[deft stump]

Oh, lul.

[marble crater]

True Survivor probably gives a lot of money, not that I would know