psyker-class

[deft stump]

Auric heresy is just telling me to go hurt myself badly and it'll hurt less.

More so when I did it thinking it would be easy for +1 to auric exemplar.

Nope.

And don't get me started on Gloriana.

Just pray you have at least 1 teammate that isn't new.

Or it's just gonna suck if you get certain events.

Cos you have 2 newbies(?) running around that needs rescuing often. And if nobody knows about the lower area gears... Just...

I had a havoc forged idiot who don't know how to push the button.

Just stood there the entire time screaming into mic about nobody coming down to do it.

When I'm literally doing the whole thing solo because he also CBA to push that heat shield button.

[eager token]

whats the best mod to do quell cancel macros

[deft stump]

It's a bannable offence so nobody is going to tell you even if it existed.

[eager token]

is it actually bannable?

sheesh

[deft stump]

Yes.

You either do it manually, or accept you run the risk of being reported and banned for it if they look into it.

[wispy pumice]

you can have wallhacks for resources and enemy indicators but quell macros are bannable? lol

[jovial juniper]

[eager token]

people really out here uploading entire youtube vids of themselves using it

[deft stump]

If they wanna take the risk, their own accounts.

But should they get reported in game too many times, well.

[cold geode]

Macros aren't fucking bannable jfc.

You can use any macro software or auto hotkey you like.

[deft stump]

A mod already talked about this before.

People have already been banned for it.

Like I said, if you wanna take the risk, it's on you.

[cold geode]

A mod is not a macro. Get your fucking nomenclature straight before you chat shit.

[deft stump]

A mod, being a moderator.

Use head.

[nocturne dust]

They haven't

I have literally tried to track down information on what is and isn't allowed

never have I had anything more reliable than one obscure forum post from Fatshark stating 'autohotkey okay'

[deft stump]

Then why have people complained about it, unless it's related to ruining other player's experience?

Because that is absolutely bannable.

[nocturne dust]

Because some people view it as cheating

[cold geode]

Again that is a MOD. Not a macro from a 3rd party piece or software. The mod itself has access to the engine and ping timing ECT. A 3rd party macro software has none of these advantages.

[nocturne dust]

under the EULA, any modding is bannable

Fatshark clearly doesn't follow the EULA

[patent jacinth]

No actually, they dislike "complex macro's"

Anything with more than 1 input

Like qq

[cold geode]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/darktide-modding-policy/75407

The actual modding policy. Attack first was removed from Nexus in accordance with a request from the devs.

[nocturne dust]

I want to note, the nude mod was also removed from Nexus, yet Dorn never got banned for it (long after it was removed) despite often flaunting it in front of the devs when the devs were streaming

[deft stump]

I guess it's if enough people report you for ruining their experience for basically using an exploit.

[cold geode]

If you can do it with your hands, you can make a macro of it. If it's doing things that aren't possible or are beyond what a person can do on their own. Then it's outside of acceptability.

[deft stump]

Can someone press shoot and quell at the speed of an avg macro?

Probs not in a long run.

[nocturne dust]

I mean

I can't play in the long run with the default keyboard setup

[weary idol]

I can for very short bursts

[cold geode]

Quell on M2 and shoot on M1.

Gg

[weary idol]

Would probably be better at it if I used different keybinds

[deft stump]

That's what I mean. But now factor an ENTIRE run doing it.

[weary idol]

And also actually gave enough of a shit to practice

But I'm not the average person with that kinda stuff because I play a lot of rhythm games

[deft stump]

If someone get legit prove they can do that against everything manually at the rate of a macro, then fine.

Can bet you most people will tire after short bursts.

[nocturne dust]

It's not that hard, really

[patent jacinth]

The macro for it is so much faster than any reasonable person can perform and doesn't require you lobotomize your controls

[nocturne dust]

People have done worse to their controls

[cold geode]

Also there is the discussion of accessibility in games. You're just basically arguing that a large subset of uses should just fuck off and not play the game because you don't personally like macros.

[deft stump]

And remember, even full auto is capped at the rate of fire of the weapon. Most macros for that quell crap is at a rate so high, it's just unfair.

[patent jacinth]

That is a falacy I forget the name of

[cold geode]

No it's not.

[patent jacinth]

I don't think macros should be entirely banned

[nocturne dust]

Slippery slope fallacy

or strawman

[patent jacinth]

But stuff like quell cancel and QQ lets you reach an inhuman level of effectivenes

[nocturne dust]

or red herring

kinda all congeal into similar stuff fallacy-wise

[patent jacinth]

An LMB spam macro will be nowhere near as effective as a LMB QQ setup

[analog agate]

I have seen no evidence on them doing anything about “complex” macros

[deft stump]

If there was a mod that everyone use for it but the devs can look at the pace of it and deem it reasonable, it's one thing.

[patent jacinth]

You can report people using them

[deft stump]

Most quell macro users just make it faster than any gun in the game.

[cold geode]

Call it whatever you like. But you're still advocating the removal of users because they can't do what you do without macros because of a disability.

[analog agate]

I have yet to see evidence of anyone getting banned for it

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the literal easiest and simplest solution is for Fatshark to remove quell cancelling, which they can very easily do by preventing you from starting the animation again until the old one would've completed (so you can still cancel it partially to keep the smoothness of the system)

[patent jacinth]

FS doesn't tell people they banned someone successfully or not iirc

[nocturne dust]

like

[patent jacinth]

It just happens

[nocturne dust]

the macro isn't the problem

Fatshark is

[deft stump]

But you know they are lazy and rather just ban abusers.

[nocturne dust]

They don't even do that

[analog agate]

People here use complex macros blatantly. I have yet to see, anyone here or on reddit, banned

[deft stump]

And the ban will just mention BHV or something

[nocturne dust]

I've yet to see any bans for macro usage at all

[analog agate]

Same

I call BS until I see evidence

[nocturne dust]

I haven't even had unverifiable reports

Only rumors of bans

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf I recorded your make every shot out run that went full chaos at then end.
https://youtu.be/c1d1ygVGv8Y?si=LBv6Xu13Bibc93r7

[nocturne dust]

Nobody has ever said "I've been banned" that I've seen, it's always "I heard others were banned"

[deft stump]

To be fair, would you show your face if you get banned?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yes

absolutely

I'd riot

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-desk-flames-riot-down-with-homework-gif-12778212689976656977

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-michael-myers-boogeyman-bonky-halloween-gif-16304109

[deft stump]

Especially when it's about doing something that can be considered cheating due to being just inhumanly impossible?

[nocturne dust]

Eh

People would still complain

Especially because Fatshark has made nothing really clear

so it's entirely Fatshark's fault

[deft stump]

I guess. Just report if you feel like it ruined your game, or not.

After all, mods are supposed to not affect the gameplay of others.

[nocturne dust]

I won't.

[analog agate]

I haven’t even seen the policy of them excluding complex” macros. The official word is all macros are fine

[deft stump]

And when someone is turbo machining everything down with an exploit, it kinda ruins the game for others.

[nocturne dust]

Well, you see it as an exploit

but it's not really

like, it's not even stronger than other builds

[deft stump]

Even EK extra crits?

[analog agate]

Even then. It is just animation canceling. There is a lot of that in this game

[nocturne dust]

TTK from Inferno is miles ahead LMB spam for the massive mixed hordes Havoc has

[strong gulch]

It's also been around forever. People were quell canceling m1 before the talent tree rework without macros.

[nocturne dust]

yeah

It's not new either

Fatshark has had plenty of time to fix it

It wouldn't be a complex fix

[strong gulch]

When I say talent tree rework, I mean before the crafting update with the LMB nodes.

[nocturne dust]

and literally, you animation cancel all the time

[strong gulch]

yes

some of the animation cancels are actively detrimental

[deft stump]

Not really, sometimes, some things just get stuck when you try to switch or swap.

[strong gulch]

to you as the player

[nocturne dust]

The game's code being unreliable dookie is unrelated

[deft stump]

I forgot, the FS special.

[nocturne dust]

I like how they made Vermintide 2 with tons of issues, slowly fixed them all over the years and figured things out, then made Darktide have all the issues Vermintide 2 had on release

[strong gulch]

Remember when staff primary/ m1 was super slow?? The only way to make that decent was to quell cancel.

Reasons why I don't take jetpack.

@nocturne dust I just found video of you getting the sniper nade penance. It took me a moment to figure out why I wasn't killing the sniper.

[nocturne dust]

lol

I think I have to do that again on vet too

Long Lob or whatever

[inland ice]

why does it suck so much

[strong gulch]

I've seen people use it well, but I'm bad lmao

[inland ice]

ive tried using it and i dont get why its so punishing to misjudge the max jump height

its really not worth giving up your backpack slot for imo

[strong gulch]

it's really funny tho

[inland ice]

it does NOT let me bobafettmaxx

[strong gulch]

If I was good I could.

But then I wouldn't get gems like this.

Yes. I was gonna stab it.

[inland ice]

that would have been the most giga chud move ever

similar energy to powering up psword and beheading a chaos spawn

[muted grove]

What’s the most powerful psyker build rn? That isn’t smite

[patent mango]

4 smykers

[jovial juniper]

Probably soul blaze spam

[strong gulch]

I cut down it down to a clip.

[muted grove]

What’s the main difference between the dueling swords for psyker?

Is one supposed to be better than others for us

[nocturne dust]

mk4 is best

[patent jacinth]

mk5 is funny

and mk 2 is versatile

[nocturne dust]

mk4 is very easy to use and has the highest single target

and you don't really use dueling sword for anything other than single targets sooooooo

[muted grove]

Why does one of them have a super whack ass strong attack

[strong gulch]

If you nearly always use the H1 S (heavy 1 special) loop and never really do the H1 H2 loop, then you might as well use the DS2 (dueling sword mk 2).

The special has a lot of stagger on it. So it is good to use, but only ever doing H1 S is a DPS loss on the DS4. On the DS2 that is how to max the single target damage and it has a little better horde management.

DS5 has a lot more mobility at the cost of damage compared to the other DS options.

[wind spruce]

The main difference is whether you put precog on it or not

[jovial juniper]

Mk5 dodges
Mk4 single target specialist
Mk2 all arounder

But it turns out you can just use a staff like purg or Trauma or voidstrike for hordes

So Mk4 all the way

*Inferno, Voidblast

[patent jacinth]

Voidstrike still works

[zinc phoenix]

“I’m gon fuck you u- oof”

[muted grove]

If I’m using purg staff when’s the most appropriate time to pull out the DS anyway?

[jovial juniper]

Ideally against crushers after you applied blaze on them

Because of uncanny Strike affecting soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

mutants and crushers

[proper osprey]

I spam lights to proc uncanny and I run repoist for more crit

And that’s only to benefit the purg staff

And my soulblaze dot

Same thing with knife

Knife is really good on voidblast

[nocturne dust]

eh, trying to do uncanny soulblaze isn't super useful outside crushers and bosses

but like

dueling sword does a lot of damage to those with uncanny

soooooooooooooooooooooo

[muted grove]

anyone wanna give me ideas on why im so bad with a soulblaze build? what are the usual pitfalls of people trying the purg staff

[inland ice]

so unstable power for fgs

yae or nae

[nocturne dust]

use the RMB charge attack for damage

[nocturne dust]

It's a choice

🤷‍♂️

[inland ice]

[muted grove]

just feels like the rmb charge is so slow things are usually dead by the time its even a little charged

[inland ice]

ima run precog for crusher destruction

[nocturne dust]

Use Nexus and Blaze Away

[muted grove]

i is

i think

yep i am

[nocturne dust]

It depends

Inferno is weaker on lower difficulties

because things die well before they get into range

but it becomes incredibly strong the harder the game gets

[strong gulch]

What issues are you having exactly?

Fyi, left side talent tree builds are soulblaze builds regardless if you use infero/ purg or not.

Infero/ purg perks are flak + personal choice and blessings blaze away + warp nexus.

[muted grove]

Let
Me play a round with this in mind and see if it helps me distill some of my issues

Maybe survivability

[strong gulch]

What's your build? Maybe more or different toughness gen nodes are needed.

[jovial juniper]

You probably have Empyric Resolve

[strong gulch]

LMB/ primary is for stagger. Aim at a mauler, rager, or smaller and they stop advancing on you. RMB/ secondary for hordes. You can start spraying farther away than you think because mobs don't stop running at you right away.

[muted grove]

i can show the top too but my screen wouldnt fit it all in

[strong gulch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

Put build in there.

[muted grove]

honestly way easier lmao ty gimmie sec

[strong gulch]

YOu can screen shot.

What are you dying to?

[muted grove]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9df079f6-1f68-4b3d-bfb9-beaa0008c8d3/test-build-2

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide

[strong gulch]

Got it. KD (kinetic deflection helps with survivability.

[nocturne dust]

I've written a guide for this

Steam guide someday

[muted grove]

u copied me

no im jk lmaooo

[strong gulch]

Keeps getting longer and longer.

[muted grove]

i copied this and am still learning how to use it best

[nocturne dust]

I actually haven't updated it on Gameslantern since Havoc

been working on the steam version

well, 'working'

really I'm just too lazy

I just don't want to bother with images 😔

[strong gulch]

My screen reader actually works on gameslantern, so I like this better. lmao

@muted grove What is killing you. Your build is mostly fine. There's a couple questionable things on it.

If you don't mind reading, then give void's build decription a read.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[muted grove]

i think my timing for venting and my timing on when to lmb vs rmb is probably my biggest pitfall

other than just general survivability/mobility but mainly just the ability management

[nocturne dust]

Honestly, for a noob, I would recommend trying to not use LMB at all

It's useful in very specific situations, but those take practice and time to understand

[muted grove]

i try not to but ragers step through my flames (cant see them) then murder me to pieces

[nocturne dust]

It will also force you to learn to dodge when that happens

[muted grove]

let me try not using it at all and see if i can adapt lmao

[nocturne dust]

or die trying

[muted grove]

exactly^

[strong gulch]

You have to aim LMB at each of them.

[muted grove]

i am great at edging

(in context of warhammer psyker)

but do i want to try to juggle and keep my peril high at all times?

i think i also get too focused on maintaining it at near 100%

[strong gulch]

and you can dodge while casting and charging RMB on infero/ purg

[strong gulch]

You don't need it to be at near 100%. If you sit in the 80s, that's plenty.

[muted grove]

ah okay thank you thats a good idea

ok i read the whole guide

i like it, will avoid BB now as well just to try

[strong gulch]

85% peril for shriek to get max of 6 soulbaze stacks from creeping flames too. ( Can be lower but 85 always get you 6)

[nocturne dust]

It's 83.33% or something iirc

but the issue is, your number you see is not always correct

[strong gulch]

Ye. Default UI rounding things.

[zinc phoenix]

it doesnt really matter tho

like, youll live if you dont get absolute max stacks every time

just ree in the mid 80s whenever you feel like theres a good amount of stuff to kill

[strong gulch]

Knowing the threshold does matter.

[nocturne dust]

Nothing really matters

[strong gulch]

Hitting it every time, especially on inferno/ purg, less so.

[nocturne dust]

but if you want to maximize the shriek's power, do the peril dance

[strong gulch]

ye

[muted grove]

Okay so some changes helped a lot

Disregarding BB, my sword, and LMB helped a ton , just my flames and dodging, that with the switch to kinetic flayer helped too

(I may swap lmb and rmb on accident, I play on a controller so I forget which is which)

[strong gulch]

You can just say primary and secondary/ charged. People will know what you mean.

[strong gulch]

Also noice.

[muted grove]

Night and day difference

[hearty wolf]

That reminds me, I wanna keep trying shotguns

[strong gulch]

I have yet to try one. I keep forgeting.

[wind spruce]

5 monstrosities before i left the first corridor in enclavum baross (no one else had spawned in until right before i took this)

[verbal thistle]

nice steam

[strong gulch]

Got you fren

[maiden oracle]

Go get killing floor 2

[strong gulch]

also

[maiden oracle]

90gb game and 70 of the gb are unironically nothing but skins

Not even good skins literally just the same design repeated 40 times for each weapon but with a slightly different color code and sold as a pack for 12 usd

[wind spruce]

Idk how I make it only screenshot my main monitor and I'm too lazy to work it out haha

[deft stump]

I mean, is same for any game with that. DOTA2 without skins is like 12gbs?

[long wharf]

at least the skins come with the game

[deft stump]

With skins, easily 80gb.

[strong gulch]

WIN + shift + S

[deft stump]

I thought KF2 has iap?

[long wharf]

does it? I have no idea

I was more making a statement on Darktide's cosmetics

[deft stump]

Still IAP then. Aqulias are real money.

[long wharf]

very true

[deft stump]

Massive game but cash shop increases file size for little value to most.

[wind spruce]

Also I didn't die

[long wharf]

while playing any Steam game, F12 will take a Steam screenshot of the active game, and you can always press Alt-PrntScrn to take a windows screenshot of the current active window (the game)

Shift-Win-S is to take a snippet, which is super handy

[lean pivot]

vboidblast perks: rending wave and warp nexus. what we think? yay or nay

[queen fog]

I like warp flurry on mine but crit does numbers so

This a toughy for me

[nocturne dust]

nay

rending + flurry or blazing spirit + nexus are the typical builds

[hearty wolf]

It go pewpew

[lean pivot]

rending and flurry seems good. im looking to clear hordes so the brittle helps, flurry shortens RMB right??

[strong gulch]

Fire voidblast/ trauma is stronger. (flak + crit chance and blazing spirit + warp nexus)

I like rending (actually applies brittle) voidblast/ trauma if I am playing an inferno/ purg user; especially a pen flames inferno user.

If you are going to do the rending shockwave route, then do flak + carapace and rending shockwave + warp flurry.

Guess who finally remember to go through their emails.

It me. I did.

By go through I mean mass delete.

[nocturne dust]

brittleness doesn't really clear hordes

[wind spruce]

Wouldn't rending be worse with a pen flames user, not better?

[nocturne dust]

pen flame stacks

[strong gulch]

Yeah it stacks

[nocturne dust]

It is one of the few sources of brittleness that goes over 40%

but of course, it can't do it alone

[wind spruce]

I know it stacks

But having other sources of rending doesn't necessarily make a source better

[strong gulch]

But also applarently blaze away matters in regaurds to SB ownership.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, sure, but the carapace clear is very helpful

It's 7x the normal damage with pen flame + other brittle

which makes clearing crushers with Inferno no longer that hard

[strong gulch]

I should also say that void and I run this in high havoc. In aurics, who cares.

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, in Aurics you can just do whatever

like take no brittleness at all and still burn crushers to death

[wind spruce]

I'm not saying it's bad or anything

[strong gulch]

Just do emotional damage by stealing SB.

[nocturne dust]

just wait a few minutes

[wind spruce]

I was just interested in the logic behind saying you especially like rending trauma when they're running penetrating flames

[nocturne dust]

I mean, there are multiple benefits to running rending trauma over blazing trauma in a comp like that

for one, it's harder for you to steal soulblaze, which means blaze away gets applied more

[wind spruce]

I suppose having both reaches a critical mass of armour pen for the purg user to reliably and efficiently kill crushers

[nocturne dust]

that too, yes

[strong gulch]

Np. We run in it high havocs to deal with armor better and to prevent SB theft that apparently matters in regards to blaze away.

[nocturne dust]

The damage is still pretty bad with only pen flame, and with only rending trauma it's not terrible but it's definitely not all that quick of a clear. Probably still better than melee with how much armor there is.

[cold ivy]

how does stealing soulblaze work?

is it something like "if you apply more stacks than the other guy then ownership transfers over to you"

[wispy bay]

The last person applies it takes all of the credit.

[cold ivy]

ah

[nocturne dust]

The soulblaze numbers don't lie It's lower overall soulblaze damage even if the stealer is running shriek

[nocturne dust]

no

first person

[strong gulch]

With purg around, trauma is def there to crushers. Yes trauma has a lot of overlap with purg, but it does help with crushers and longer ranged enemies.

Also it's sometimes thicc af and a trauma blast is nice to make things go away.

[nocturne dust]

If you apply the first stack, your bonuses apply to all stacks on the target

[hearty wolf]

Uu

I woke up

It's 3:25am

This is later than usual

[wispy bay]

I don't remember first or last, but you know more than me.

[nocturne dust]

This is why Blazing Trauma steals it so readily from Inferno, Blazing Trauma has the range and application

if it was last, Inferno could steal it back due to stack caps

but it's not last applicator 😔

[strong gulch]

It's first. I could shriek at low peril on a room and then get credit for all of purg's work.

As long as the SB doesn't expire, I would get credit.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, the only way to change ownership is to wait for stacks to completely expire first

[strong gulch]

That would include me keeping credit if SB is maintained or stacks being refreshed.

By refesh I mean SB still being applied but stacks falling below the the cap.

[wispy bay]

Imagine being petty, only use rendering and refuse to use brittle, can't give people a chance to do more damage than you.

[nocturne dust]

I mean

Brittleness has issues

It normally being limited to 40%

[hearty wolf]

Brittle trauma

[nocturne dust]

It being a debuff which means you need to apply it to every enemy instead of just buff yourself

and Uncanny just being so easy with such big numbers

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/a-christmas-story-fragile-pronounciation-gif-3577147

like, the numbers are inversed

Really, brittleness should be the easy application with 120%, and uncanny/rending should be the 40%

but typical Fatshark balancing

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1032365015258366063

game.

[strong gulch]

kk. Bathroom then slurmp up some protien then I'll be there.

[hearty wolf]

oki

https://tenor.com/view/d%26d-neckbeard-beard-dungeons-%26-dragons-world-of-warcraft-gif-10576368496366994374

@nocturne dust

[nocturne dust]

gib time, need snack, hungry

[hearty wolf]

damnit

Gonna hunt for my Vet Zarona...Best of luck to me

Okay never mind, first try

[prime elk]

broke mfer rip

[nocturne dust]

@hearty wolf lmao, right as I try to join it shifted to 4/4

@hearty wolf it won't let me join

[strong gulch]

nooooo

[strong gulch]

No voids allowed

my havoc

[sturdy reef]

those snipers in the end portion

gonna be annoying for you guys lol

[tulip dome]

i need 2 people to help me with cliffhanger, im losing my mind why is it required for For the Emperor

[strong gulch]

big soda tab

[dreamy quiver]

hi

[feral nexus]

Hello there

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf This is the standark EK build with 1 point in smite. I will get the KF one too.

EK/ surge with KF. If you don't use KD, put last point into warp battery.

[analog agate]

I definitely just play EK psyker better than vet

[wind spruce]

Its a lot easier to play, to be fair

[analog agate]

Yeah

[sturdy reef]

exe bolt gun vet my beloved

[worthy wasp]

Thats def not standard

[strong gulch]

yes it is

[analog agate]

It was. Now BB tree is more

[worthy wasp]

Its garbage is what it is

[analog agate]

Lol wtf

[strong gulch]

it's meta

[fiery wigeon]

wildfire on electro kinetic?

[strong gulch]

sure bud

yes

[worthy wasp]

Empyric Resolve is only used on Scrier's builds

[analog agate]

Oh gosh

Not a tanner simp

[worthy wasp]

Who in their right might slaps on a node that gimps their toughness regen

[fiery wigeon]

wildfire is barely worth taking on flame staff

[sturdy reef]

people who dodge

[worthy wasp]

You want to generate peril

And you want to generate toughness

[fiery wigeon]

venting does want the peril gen yeah

[sturdy reef]

what

?

no

venting doesnt gen peril

[fiery wigeon]

what

[worthy wasp]

This guy is a moron

[fiery wigeon]

it scales off of peril

[deft stump]

But you want peril to vent.

[worthy wasp]

And that build is trash

[sturdy reef]

oh I misread

mb

[fiery wigeon]

so does warp rider

[sturdy reef]

its not a scriers build in the first place

[worthy wasp]

Right, so why does it have empyric resolve

[fiery wigeon]

i thought i was the only freak who used resolve on scriers

[sturdy reef]

I do too

only because POTS doesnt work

[analog agate]

It allows you to stay at higher peril more. It allows you to not take inner tranq. It actually does something unlike pots

[sturdy reef]

ER gives way more breathing room

that you need on any staff besides inferno

[deft stump]

There are many uses of it. Just never with flame staff lul. 2% peril every m1 is... special.

[worthy wasp]

Thats cool, but its a VS build that uses warp charges

[sturdy reef]

just skip inner tranq

it stacks multiplicatively anyway

POTS is literally a points tax right now

[worthy wasp]

Or skip ER. -30% toughness replenished is trash

[sturdy reef]

lol

stop getting hit

[deft stump]

What happens when you swap from ek to inferno but too lazy to change talents.

[sturdy reef]

you can stay at higher peril more easily with ER

and with more breathing room before hitting the 97% threshold

[grim hedge]

Didn't meowbeep explains why ER is good?

[deft stump]

Just ignore that guy, he sucks at the game (all the dook takes) and blames everyone but himself for all losses. Needs to do his namesake but never does it.

[worthy wasp]

For 99% of players, -30% toughness by itself makes the node garbage

[sturdy reef]

okay

dont have to run it

but it isnt garbage

[worthy wasp]

@deft stump Is just mad about my take on zealots/vets

[inland ice]

bro

[analog agate]

You are talking to psyker chat. Where we would be your 1% in your made up percentage though…

[inland ice]

go listen to some music

[sturdy reef]

if you are playing well

ER vs no ER

[inland ice]

lowkey love the animation for standing w the ammo crate

[sturdy reef]

doesnt really matter

in a situation where you die, the toughness regen isnt going to save you

its mostly positioning and horde management

ER makes horde and elite management much better

[broken carbon]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iSdn1AJ0BrAC7moSv?invite=cr-MSxIQ0IsMjA0ODY2MDQ3LA

[inland ice]

lmao

white collar rejects

[deft stump]

IDK why he thinks his takes are anything. He hates all psykers and call them all trash, yet is here bossing over ppl.

[inland ice]

bro desperately needs to listen to some music

[deft stump]

Basically needs to get off and do his namesake for ages.

[analog agate]

What is your EK build Music?

[worthy wasp]

I made the point yesterday that Zealot's can't regen nades/ammo like a Vet, so proper tknives usage is important for zealots. Esp if using Flamer. And a Zealot using tknives well has a drastically higher ceiling than one using nades, so much so that you're prob better off playing vet if youre not willing to learn how to use/aim them properly

Dudes been butthurt ever since

Tknives have built in sustain mechs

[worthy wasp]

1 moment

[strong gulch]

ER is great on voidblast/ trauma and EK/ surge builds. Wildfire is good but it get misunderstood.

You don't have to play any of that, but it is meta and has been meta.

[broken carbon]

who

was

[sturdy reef]

I still run it on inferno staff

[broken carbon]

im confused

n nosy

[hearty wolf]

karien

[worthy wasp]

Karen

[analog agate]

Wildfire is also taken cause it is a dmg talent. And I love me dmg

[strong gulch]

Take wildfire to steal SB from other psykers.

[broken carbon]

yeah this makes sense

[deft stump]

Just look up his takes the whole night. You'll understand. From screetching about zealot's grenades being trash to zealots should not use ammo in havoc to all psykers being trash tier and causing him losses and such. Whole thing about him whining in general, vet mains and psyker mains about the psyker things.

[sturdy reef]

okay so play Ogryn

[broken carbon]

who's takes !

[sturdy reef]

got it

[analog agate]

I’m still waiting on his EK build

[sturdy reef]

[deft stump]

I stopped bothering except to tell people what they are getting into arguing with him.

He thinks his takes are always right, even if the majority would disagree.

[broken carbon]

WHO IS HE !!!

[deft stump]

Music4Therapy.

Who else?

[broken carbon]

ok so u both are disagreeing

about

what

[deft stump]

See above.

[broken carbon]

i mean i do this too

i disagree with psyker chat on a good few things

[sturdy reef]

yeah

I like sg inferno better than shriek

I am heretical

[broken carbon]

disagreeing with the majority, as long as you arent an asshole about it

isnt really bad

people are going to assume their own takes are correct, its how opinions work

[analog agate]

Problem is. Dude is an asshole. And now seems to have run off instead of defending his views

[deft stump]

I stated the 3 main hot takes he had the whole night before I just stopped bothering because he ignores you if he can't argue back your points without going "No. I'm right and you are wrong.".

[worthy wasp]

This is a load of bullshit from someone aptly named Karen

[analog agate]

Still waiting for that build

[worthy wasp]

What melee you using? I make changes pending on melee

[broken carbon]

ok so sin and music like each other and diabolic and karien dont like music

[worthy wasp]

Theres 4 flex points

[broken carbon]

hrm,,,

psyker chat drama

im too tired for this i think

but

also too nosy

[analog agate]

What does it matter. You called the standard EK build trash. I want to see your build

[hearty wolf]

huh

[deft stump]

More general. Dude argued in general, vet and psyker mains.

[broken carbon]

im trying 2 comprehend the drama

and

[sturdy reef]

A

[broken carbon]

unfortuantely i

am stupid

[worthy wasp]

EK isn't great at horde clear and leans on melee to horde clear. If you run dclaw you want Kinetic Deflection fe

[analog agate]

Bro came in here calling the standard EK build trash. Gave the same ol spiel about ER being bad. Etc

[sturdy reef]

quell cancel

just quell cancel

[broken carbon]

ER is preference

[deft stump]

Just know he thinks knives are the only way to play zealot. And in havoc, zealots should not have any access to ammo.

[broken carbon]

knives are great on zealot

mainly because i think theyre just

the best

grenades are fine

[sturdy reef]

I like stunstorms on havok

knives and stunstorms

but I rarely play my zealot on h40

[deft stump]

Yes, but he says it's THE only way.

[broken carbon]

but lose out due to the pathing

[broken carbon]

zealot ammo is dependant on bolter or flamer

and if theres a vet

if flamer, then that zealot should be getting force fed ammo

bolter less so

[worthy wasp]

Is just 1 example, can swap bubble for vs

[deft stump]

He says 100% ammo to vet even if flamer zealot.

[broken carbon]

bolter only really exists for special sniping and bossing, and armor packs

[sturdy reef]

no

[worthy wasp]

No I dont

[sturdy reef]

why do u have by crack of bone

and then say u want to stay at high peril

????

[broken carbon]

i wish BCOB would work to keep me at 75% peril

i think that would be neat

[worthy wasp]

Mb, holdover from my dclaw build

[broken carbon]

that way i can get high peril benefits while in sg

[analog agate]

That a melee build with EK as support? I assume

[broken carbon]

and i dont have 2 think

[deft stump]

Why I say, his takes are special lvls of takes, but he says he's always right and others wrong if they don't serve his whims for builds.

[worthy wasp]

This is what I run with dclaw + ek, this is my comfort loadout

KD + BCoB lets you machine gun parries

[deft stump]

I don't care if builds are bad if ppl find it fun. High Havoc is really where people just tryhard anyway.

[analog agate]

Off meta d claw build is fine. Just isn’t meta. Don’t have to come in here calling the standard build trash is all

[worthy wasp]

Machine gun = horde at your back swinging into you, you are parrying all swings and directing them at primary target

But thats just 1 variant of the build

Norm you dont take KD or BCoB

Which frees up 3 points

And you can use that to pick up IT / Empathic Evasion / etc... if running the VS variation

FE

It depends on what melee you are using

I don't spam EK

[analog agate]

Yeah. It is a melee build

[sturdy reef]

shoulda gone DD for melee

and SG

[worthy wasp]

Depends on melee, fe you can lap Illisi special -> heavy and stay at 100% crit chance and 100% peril with BCoB

[maiden oracle]

What’s er again

[analog agate]

Empyric resolve

[maiden oracle]

No idea what that is

[worthy wasp]

Thats what I mean by it depends on how often you staff and what melee you use

[analog agate]

Negative peril gen. Negative toughness gen

[maiden oracle]

Oh that

[worthy wasp]

There is a ton of variables with psyker builds

[maiden oracle]

I think I use it for electric staff

Still don’t know why I take it over the other rending talent though

[analog agate]

It is used in all staff builds besides inferno

[delicate dove]

It's fun not quelling all the time

[analog agate]

Cause pots doesn’t work.

[hearty wolf]

i have no sides

I'm best friends with you

that's my only side

[maiden oracle]

What’s pots

[worthy wasp]

I'd rather take node that does nothing then one that makes me both produce less peril and toughness

Quelling peril on weakspot kill is good tho

[analog agate]

Go for it

[torn kernel]

If you're going shriek don't you want high peril ASAP anyway

[worthy wasp]

Because you can rapidly generate peril to 100% then chain weakspot kills to stay at a constant 100% without ever blowing up

[worthy wasp]

Yeah

[analog agate]

ER doesn’t affect it all that much to have some negative effect on it. ER really helps with staff play

[worthy wasp]

If you're spamming staff

I use a balance of both melee and staff

[torn kernel]

Oh i might have to give it a shot then

[hearty wolf]

I zap

bzzt

bzzt

bzzt

[maiden oracle]

Wait just a moment what is pots

[analog agate]

The other node opposite ER

[hearty wolf]

10% rending on warp

attacks

[maiden oracle]

Oh so it’s bugged and just straight up doesn’t do anything?

[deft stump]

Mostly because 2% per m1 is slow... and charging is like 12%.

[analog agate]

Above 75

[hearty wolf]

I want old assail back

pls give

[radiant frigate]

i would still rather take pots

[strong gulch]

hand cannon assail

lol

[radiant frigate]

uncanny assail

[deft stump]

Even for a point tax?

Or 2?

[worthy wasp]

Assail = no psykinetics aura

[hearty wolf]

when uncanny affected it

rending assails

[strong gulch]

When will pots be fixed?? It'd still b e underwhelming if it worked.

[worthy wasp]

Hopefully next hotfix

[delicate dove]

ER or no ER are both perfectly viable depending on your build and playstyle, kind of annoying when people treat ER like the touch of death when most of the time you have more than enough toughness regen regardless

[analog agate]

All it takes a simple fix lmao. Null already showed how to do it

[worthy wasp]

The issue I have with calling ER standard is that assumes staff spam is standard gameplay

[deft stump]

Ah. But yeah, would be happy for the lower cd shards and such as well.

[analog agate]

It is…

Maybe it isn’t YOURS

[strong gulch]

Purg just getting nothing above warp siphon.

[radiant frigate]

engage in melee right this instant ⚡

[worthy wasp]

1 staff doesnt use it and all non-spam builds dont want it at all

[analog agate]

But it is standard for psyker high dps gameplay

[torn kernel]

Actually hold on

Does assail proc puncture if you have a bistol out

[worthy wasp]

But the highest dps psykers either run Purge Staff or Scriers

[strong gulch]

My comfort build is not meta. That doesn't mean the meta builds are not meta.

[deft stump]

Yes, I'll stroke my sword and bonk the crusher for no damage. (Cos Illisi.)

[radiant frigate]

pretty sure it's EK

[strong gulch]

Standard EK and voidblast is spammy.

[lean pivot]

what does everyone typically run on inferno staff? whats the meta for that for havoc?

[worthy wasp]

Certain staffs want Empyric Resolve

Not all

[lean pivot]

penetrating flame and warp nexus maybe?

[broken carbon]

blaze away nexus, unyielding flak

[radiant frigate]

i never want ER

[broken carbon]

blaze away is BiS

significantly increases burn damage

as it applies to your stacks of burn too

[lean pivot]

ohhhh dope dope ima try it!

[broken carbon]

not only the direct damage

[worthy wasp]

Yeah, the inferno staff is goated in terms of cc and damage

[nocturne dust]

@hearty wolf @strong gulch Lore-accurate Psyker-Wall interaction

[delicate dove]

when the wall spooges yellow slime all over you

[analog agate]

I don’t see your point. Staff spam is standard psyker gameplay outside of right side melee/gunker builds

[worthy wasp]

I use staff to kill specials/gunners and if I'm not being pressured. When pressured, I bust out the melee

[delicate dove]

https://tenor.com/view/tusareve-katy-perry-slime-nickelodeon-gif-25468694

[hearty wolf]

xd

[radiant frigate]

see cool sword wizard class
look inside
it's wizard wizard

Death

[worthy wasp]

Trauma staff wants to be able to control everything

So def wants ER

[analog agate]

Yep

And what other staff also wants to get out as much dmg as possible?

[radiant frigate]

i will never stop calling ER cringe

[analog agate]

Does it start with… and E?

[worthy wasp]

Same with voidstrike, has slow af charge and relies on warp flurry to increase charge times. ER lets you rip off more charged shots

[torn kernel]

Voidstrike

[grim hedge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb7EMEjAK2Q

does this help with why ER is good?

video description do elaborate on the why

[worthy wasp]

Issue with EK is it can't handle pressure like Trauma can

[analog agate]

Yeah. You shriek

[radiant frigate]

less time spent quelling means more time spent casting!!

[deft stump]

You understand fun of boomy boom staff.

[worthy wasp]

True, but if running bubble you dont have shriek.

Hence why I pair it with melee

[fiery wigeon]

havent touched a staff in ages

[analog agate]

I just completed a havoc 40 with EK and shriek and barely pulled out my sword. So definitely don’t tell me I need to melee with it

[torn kernel]

It's my favourite staff by miles

[radiant frigate]

blessings upon you

[worthy wasp]

I don't disagree with you.

EK is my fav staff

[fiery wigeon]

i dont think ive dropped fgs since it came out either

[deft stump]

I know. It's bad in havoc though but still, gamblah staff is fun.

[plucky flax]

Burga user when they see me on surge staff

[torn kernel]

Hitting a double crit on a boss just feels like

[radiant frigate]

until you look at the damage

and weep

[deft stump]

Chaos, you are just special, kay? You'll just outdps any other Psykers in most cases. >_>

[torn kernel]

I haven't touched havoc since christmas lmao

[torn kernel]

Shh i just want the boom boom

[fiery wigeon]

gunker one-mag'ing the beast of nurgle:

[deft stump]

Need buff, gib buff. Make fun boomies great again.

[analog agate]

Sigh You do you man. Just don’t come in here calling Potatoes (our standard) EK build garbage because it isn’t how you play EK

[deft stump]

Ah, probs better for sanity.

[strong gulch]

@analog agate Couldn't see and was scared. Would have died without your toughness.

[torn kernel]

Also i'm kinda biased since the first map i tried it on was operations

Straight hallways for dayyss

[plucky flax]

Oh no don't flame me potato

[fiery wigeon]

what in gods name

[strong gulch]

I'm too potato to even notice lmao

[torn kernel]

Yeah lol i just quickplay aurics

[analog agate]

Trauma saved two lives that day

[strong gulch]

🙏

[deft stump]

That is not for sanity as well. The ppl in auric heresy...

[plucky flax]

Anyone need help with high havoc I just got up got my coffee I am ready

[strong gulch]

smash

[torn kernel]

I might go for havocs one day but i just don't like dealing with the party finder

[torn kernel]

Just carry

[strong gulch]

Party up in here or lfg

[deft stump]

You know my h40. We are going to die on the first drop, isn't it?

[torn kernel]

I'm shy

[radiant frigate]

damnation time

[plucky flax]

Let's do it.

[nocturne dust]

I'd like to say lag was killing me repeatedly today and I wasn't just playing badly

I'd like to say that

[deft stump]

Not with 300 ping. I play at weird hours usually.

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

Okay I will.

[analog agate]

Your reaper death was glorious

No lag there I assume

[deft stump]

Equally bad, ask Chaos the pugs we saw.

[nocturne dust]

okay, the reaper death was lag

[torn kernel]

Weird how? I play like around midnight-dawn most of the time

[nocturne dust]

I literally hit them with the dueling sword stagger, tried dodging, and sliding

Nothing worked

[deft stump]

1am to 7am my time.

It's 3:32pm rn.

[torn kernel]

Oh

Singapore?

[deft stump]

Yep.

[torn kernel]

Dude we play like around the same times lmao

[plucky flax]

Now kiss.

[torn kernel]

[deft stump]

I basically woke up and got on phone.

[sturdy reef]

psykinetics aura in action

[plucky flax]

[deft stump]

I have a girlfriend.

[torn kernel]

I have a friend

[maiden oracle]

The moment I hop off to go to bed is crazy work

[strong gulch]

the psyker tree hero

[worthy wasp]

PA is why assail is bad

[sturdy reef]

assail dn

[worthy wasp]

PA should be somewhere else on tree

[radiant frigate]

i have nondescript stomach pain

[maiden oracle]

How are you charging so fast

Warp flurry? Or whatever it’s called

[analog agate]

Flurry plus quell cancel

I assume

[strong gulch]

Assail isn't bad; but dang I would like psyk's aura with it.

[analog agate]

Looks like how fast I do it

[torn kernel]

Replace EE with PA

[deft stump]

Anyway, should just do warm up stuff so I just don't goof insta since blep.

[plucky flax]

I don't need it with assails.

[maiden oracle]

How does quell canceling make you charge faster I thought it just let you spam lmb attacks faster

[strong gulch]

It was flurry rending and quell cancelling.

[plucky flax]

Stop hating my funny rocks I kill u

[sturdy reef]

flurry plus shockwave

goated on voidblast

[analog agate]

Ah. Flurry does the charge faster. But quell cancel allows you to get into another charge faster

[plucky flax]

Don't make psyker chat become zealot chat (If you don't run x the build is worthless )

[maiden oracle]

Ah ok

So how do I manually do it

[sturdy reef]

FOTF, blades, benediction and DS mkIV only

or you're trolling

throwing

vote kick

[radiant frigate]

if you don't run force greatsword the build is worthless!!

[maiden oracle]

Just hit and quickly rmb after I finish my cast?

[strong gulch]

In havocs, I often play with with someone (deadvoid) who does inferno with pen flames and blazeaway. So I opt for rending flurry voidblast.

[sturdy reef]

its at a specific point in the animation

[plucky flax]

This is tru

[sturdy reef]

like right about when the psyker clasps their hand

[plucky flax]

I played big sword yesterday I carried so hard its op

[torn kernel]

I don't get DSIV on zealot

[sturdy reef]

try it in psykhanium

[fiery wigeon]

putting it where battle meditation is would be nice

[sturdy reef]

you'll get a rhythym for it

[torn kernel]

That thing has 0 horde clear

[maiden oracle]

Is pen blazing better than nexus blazing for havoc?

[sturdy reef]

none of the duelling swords have good wave clear

[plucky flax]

Don't need to clear horde when you can run away from horde.

[plucky flax]

Nein.

[fiery wigeon]

it oneshots everything

[worthy wasp]

If it were up to me, I would swap these 2

[plucky flax]

Luckily it's not up to you.

[torn kernel]

So does relic blade, and you get actually decent waveclear with it lol

[deft stump]

You just carry so hard anyway. I'm a modifier, you know.

[sturdy reef]

buff peril explosions

when can I be a live bomb

I wanna become the poxburster

the psykburster

[torn kernel]

Max wound psyker hell yeah

[plucky flax]

It's strong

I play 5 wounds and alluhah ackbar

[fiery wigeon]

ive not really used relic blade much but isnt it also incredibly slow and clunky

[strong gulch]

If I was lone psyker, I'd do blaze away and warp nexus. Pen flames stacks on the brittleness from rending shockwave and deadvoid prefers to play pen flames.

[sturdy reef]

the radius and dropoff are what kill it for me

and it needs way better base damage lol

[deft stump]

When corruption=bigger boom?

[sturdy reef]

thatd be a neat mechanic

why not

[analog agate]

We need our explosion to be the same thing as an ogryn nuke. I’d do a build for that then

[plucky flax]

It's okay speed
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1327398355235770419/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2025.01.10_-_22.06.31.14.mp4?ex=6782eb8d&is=67819a0d&hm=2d03acd478d4ca4de7e3f5f91e0f36d165c6d66408f173724d0dd46aa46507ba&

[torn kernel]

Nah, dodge slide into heavy gives you pokes all the time

[sturdy reef]

scriers into psyk nuke

ez 100% peril

[torn kernel]

For hordes just spam lights

[strong gulch]

Also blaze away can get messed up depending on who applied soulblaze first. So another reason why I opt for rending trauma. Plus, trauma is mostly there for armor management.

[deft stump]

Is why I question it's not a baseline thing. Would kinda fit how the psyker is getting more and more unstable and barely just not blowing up their teammates.

[torn kernel]

I use the mkx btw

[sturdy reef]

I forgot what relic blade mark I use

[worthy wasp]

If PA was in the middle in place of CW then every build could access it, and it wouldn't be OP because placing it there doesn't save any builds points. If anything, itd cost builds an additional point

[sturdy reef]

its the one with the inquisitorial rosette on it

[torn kernel]

That's the x

[sturdy reef]

the one with the stab PA

yeah I love it

[torn kernel]

I love the stabs

[worthy wasp]

And PA is strong enough to warrant the tax

[analog agate]

I was conscious to shriek opposite way of voids inferno in our games today

[plucky flax]

What is your psyker tru lvl out of interest?

[sturdy reef]

I wish the overheads werent so awkward to chain into

also the L3 stab

is very good on the MKX

can easily one tap the lighter elites

[torn kernel]

I just spam lights into a mixed horde and flick the l3 into whatever priority target

It's just so braindead

[plucky flax]

Ye the stab is stronk but mk2 has better single target due to funny upper cut.

[sturdy reef]

upper cut is just weird to me

looks weird

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's hard to hit head.

[sturdy reef]

can never quite aim with the head

[torn kernel]

Aims weird lol

[sturdy reef]

yeah

[plucky flax]

Have to move mouse weirdly. Xd

[sturdy reef]

plus MKX is the better fashion

[plucky flax]

But if it's a crit it does crazy damage.

[sturdy reef]

zealot melee is overkill anyway

lol

[plucky flax]

Just pray you can hit head with it 🙏

[sturdy reef]

just charge stab with the MKX

[radiant frigate]

try it with 70% crit chance and charge

[sturdy reef]

does an ass ton of damage

[worthy wasp]

Don't think I can see it on console, but I've been playing since launch and also played vt2 for years

[analog agate]

Hmmmm. The only other time I have seen Agent ask about someones true level was me. I worry about this comparison

[sturdy reef]

MKX running charge stab -> FOTF -> one tap any elite

assumming its a headshot

[plucky flax]

You are better player than me

[sturdy reef]

and its got some damn range

[worthy wasp]

I played DT on pc when it came out, bought a PS5 and sold the pc and started fresh.

Been maining psyker from day 1

[radiant frigate]

curious choice

[torn kernel]

Oh the times i've done that into a crusher pack only to get plapped by some dickhead i didn't notice

The bloodlust, it does things

[plucky flax]

Don't be scared I come in peace.

[worthy wasp]

My friends are broke and it was easier to buy them all PS5s than it was to get them all gaming PCs and keep them updated every few years

[maiden oracle]

Got it

[radiant frigate]

my pc is almost 9 years old and the only things I've changed are RAM and an additional ssd

[plucky flax]

You don't need pen flames at all you just ignore crushers and hope teammates deal with them (try not to get overheaded)

[maiden oracle]

Also is the difference between quell cancel and no quell cancel voidblast super noticeable or can I just go without

[worthy wasp]

Depends on the games you play, I play vt2 / dt / poe2

[sturdy reef]

yeah MKX is good at outranging

[sturdy reef]

its noticeable

[analog agate]

Yes it is quite noticeable

[maiden oracle]

Fuck

[sturdy reef]

like that clip wouldnt have happened without it

[maiden oracle]

I can already feel my finger clenching up

[analog agate]

You play on PC?

[worthy wasp]

Dclaw is where its at

[sturdy reef]

why auric maelstrom metal fab again

I want a better map

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Don't mukbang overheads like me.

[plucky flax]

I want excise vault to come back

It's been too long.

[maiden oracle]

Yea

[sturdy reef]

I need excise vault penance

[maiden oracle]

I’m not gonna use a macro for something like that though

[worthy wasp]

Only psyker can machine gun parries with dclaw, and that shit is ridiculous

[analog agate]

Go into the psykanium and just practice it. It won’t take longer than 10 min to get a sense of the rhythm. You just tap R in between blasts

[sturdy reef]

yup

[worthy wasp]

Pack of ragers at back + boss in face = parry city. Just direct all the damage at the boss and watch chunks disappear

[maiden oracle]

Alright thanks

Can I hold down rmb or do I need to also let go and click in between quells

[plucky flax]

Anyone havoc 40 gloriana meme? I want to play zealot so need some bubbles

[deft stump]

[analog agate]

https://youtu.be/zcINF72qAdY?si=Mex8SgKO93S1wH1R @2:08

[deft stump]

Once again into the breach, I guess.

[plucky flax]

No one playing.

Veri sad saturday I go jog

[maiden oracle]

Good stuff

[analog agate]

I do but you will have to wait until your evening time lol

[plucky flax]

Fuck it's -3

[plucky flax]

Don't know if karien is still up she's the host.

[deft stump]

You know I am. I just wanna panic warm up first.

[analog agate]

Oh yeah prob not. If 1500 now that is 13 hours ahead of me

[deft stump]

Wait, evening. Isn't that like 2am?

[analog agate]

For me yes

[plucky flax]

Don't think I've beaten 40 gloriana yet actually. Rare map.

[hearty wolf]

It's so common

[analog agate]

It was my first 40. Popped my cherry with gloriana

[hearty wolf]

I have beaten all the havoc 40 glorianas

I will do another

[deft stump]

We are going to fail it, isn't it? And resort to the 4 smykers of the apocalypse.

[plucky flax]

Mine is always sycorax and chasm

[strong gulch]

You can go without the cancel. There is a meaningful difference BUT it isn't life changing. Plus you get smashed if you feck it up. You can straight up cancel your whole cast and get deaded.

That being said it's also easy to do and flows naturally unto quelling between casts. Like diabolic said, there is a rythym to it. You can keep that going and peril edge too.

It's old, but Pygex's video at 2:35 showcases trauma's charged/ RMB quell cancel.
https://youtu.be/zcINF72qAdY?si=Bz5i0Mj_TsiYQcmk&t=155

[hearty wolf]

Because noob

feelsbad

[plucky flax]

My own map is dark communion atm but it's too ez

[hearty wolf]

I'm sorry you had to learn it this way

[plucky flax]

Tru

[strong gulch]

oh lmao I was late

[plucky flax]

I want to suffer in gloriana

Like barrel myself to death

[deft stump]

You host for ezy win then.

[hearty wolf]

no

gloriana

now

[plucky flax]

I already clear 4 0this week

[hearty wolf]

I launched game

[plucky flax]

I just need some assists and memes.

And to practice zealot relic sword without chastise in havoc.

RIP attack speed

[hearty wolf]

it's fine

[deft stump]

I have not, I still have so much weeklies to go.

[strong gulch]

gloriana H40 run again

[hearty wolf]

wtf

where is my gloriana 40

[deft stump]

Playing psyker makes it hard to babysit 3 cats.

[analog agate]

Off to bed for me. I can play tomorrow if anyone wants a gloriana 40

[hearty wolf]

no

what

I've been scammed

if I can't do gloriana 40

[analog agate]

I did say I had it earlier

[hearty wolf]

It's time for true survivor

@strong gulch

[hearty wolf]

o but we wanted troo survivor then threw 😭

[deft stump]

You know I still need that.

[strong gulch]

lmao kk. Bathroom first.

[deft stump]

But it's Gloriana and I expect someone flying.

[analog agate]

I threw hard. My reflexes were shot

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust come back or?

[hearty wolf]

is ok

I'm still confused why I downed that one time

I tried to keep throwing that run but you were very persistent at keeping it alive

[deft stump]

Still, you haven't found a fourth.

[hearty wolf]

then next run I was reborn

[plucky flax]

You have it too?

[deft stump]

All I know is Chaos, Sin and who?

[analog agate]

Aye

[hearty wolf]

potato

[plucky flax]

Nice I can play tonight my time.

[hearty wolf]

now?

yes

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[nocturne dust]

I going to bed

[hearty wolf]

fock

[nocturne dust]

or trying to

🛌

[deft stump]

I really don't know why I let you all do this to me at times.

[hearty wolf]

you enjoy it

now come

immediately

[strong gulch]

loading game

[deft stump]

I don't. Mental trauma.

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042857061551190147

[hearty wolf]

:)

[plucky flax]

Hmmm those are some sexy lil' dainty fingers

[deft stump]

Why do I even...

[sturdy reef]

[torn kernel]

a chaos spawn just threw me through a wall

[feral nexus]

Atleast it wasnt over the edge

[torn kernel]

well i fell off the map anyway lol

[sturdy reef]

I was having a very good game and got stuttered

[cold geode]

I feel ur pain

[torn kernel]

💀

[sturdy reef]

how the fuck

[fiery wigeon]

bugtide

[cold geode]

Your guess is as good as mine.

[sturdy reef]

skill issue