only because i want to be excessively hot
#psyker-class
radiant frigate
deft stump
only because i want to be excessively hot
Sus.
radiant frigate
Does the Imperium burn people for being too pretty?
i do not want to be THAT hot
nocturne dust
deft stump
i do not want to be THAT hot
Heh. Just have an aura that make men bend knee to you.
radiant frigate
Heh. Just have an aura that make men bend knee to you.
ahem
WORSHIP ME OR DIE
nocturne dust
If someone 'worships' a picture of Emps, does Slaanesh or Emps (supposing he's becoming a god in the warp) get empowered?
marble crater
nocturne dust
deft stump
But you ignore them to chase cute/hot ladies.
deft stump
If someone 'worships' a picture of Emps, does Slaanesh or Emps (supposing he's b...
Maybe both. I dunno.
nocturne dust
<:concerned:1107393210847871110>
celest valve
If someone 'worships' a picture of Emps, does Slaanesh or Emps (supposing he's b...
no matter what you do, a chaos god gets empowered.
if you're not sure who, it's probably tzeentch.
nocturne dust
no matter what you do, a chaos god gets empowered.
well sure
but like
Emps is supposedly becoming that
celest valve
well sure lets ask the emperor
INCOHERENT SCREAMING
hmmm yes beloved, fascinating
nocturne dust
*INCOHERENT SCREAMING*
quartz barn
Just embrace death instead and join the sulfur cult
deft stump
Pretty sure multiple gods can 'dine'.
celest valve
but wat if nothing happens
nothing happened... that you know of.
deft stump
Naw, if two gals 'eat' each other, is Slaanesh related.
celest valve
brain: "ok so lets find rule 34 of slaneesh and tzeentch
also brain: "you are going to bed"
deft stump
I mean, they do both enjoy excesses of a different kind.
nocturne dust
Naw, if two gals 'eat' each other, is Slaanesh related.
Khorne: Battle in the bedroom
Nurgle: STDs
Tzeentch: Something something, bodily changes, flushed, blushing, etc. etc.
Really you can connect any Chaos God to anything if you try hard enough
except the rat
stupid rat
celest valve
Khorne: Battle in the bedroom
Nurgle: STDs
Tzeentch: Something something, bodily...
tzeentch has it as part of a 90 step plan for universal domination
this is required
deft stump
To be fair, what do you expect from hate xxx between a Psyker and a Zealot?
celest valve
sorry if you don't have a high enough IQ to know how it's required.
radiant frigate
brain: "ok so lets find rule 34 of slaneesh and tzeentch
deft stump
brain: "ok so lets find rule 34 of slaneesh and tzeentch
Also, just saying, this actually exists.
nocturne dust
tzeentch has it as part of a 90 step plan for universal domination
not enough steps
celest valve
i was simplifying, sorry.
celest valve
Also, just saying, this actually exists.
i did not have any doubt it exists.
deft stump
Don't question how I know. I am scarred by it.
celest valve
weak.
marble crater
Why is this turning into zealot chat?
nocturne dust
I blame Karien
radiant frigate
That is how rule 34 works
do any of us exist?
wind spruce
Why is this turning into zealot chat?
Psyker chat got that precog brain today 
nocturne dust
do any of us exist?
deft stump
sometimes psykers get carried away in zealot thoughts
I mean, you guys read minds. I write yuri and blow things up.
radiant frigate
https://tenor.com/view/its-just-a-dream-pop-patrick-critch-son-of-a-critch-213-g...
nocturne dust
I mean, you guys read minds. I write yuri and blow things up.
apply crystalline will to forehead
deft stump
apply crystalline will to forehead
Hrm?
deft stump
Oh no, I have inf grenades.
radiant frigate
siblings, burst her brain ⚡
deft stump
Do that and this whole place eats 8 frags.
radiant frigate
500tb of yuri uploaded straight into your brain
deft stump
500tb of yuri uploaded straight into your brain
That's just half my dreams.
radiant frigate
That's just half my dreams.
ah, but i didn't specify
nocturne dust
Do that and this whole place eats 8 frags.
You may try and will have plenty of time considering the charge time of BB, but have you considered I have a shield?
nocturne dust
deft stump
You may try and will have plenty of time considering the charge time of BB, but ...
Pretty sure grenades just go off anyway even in shields.
deft stump
16ft radius.
nocturne dust
si
deft stump
Also long range lob.
radiant frigate
How tall is the ceiling
how many bubbles do we need
deft stump
Oh, I can knoife in and throw them at my feet.
nocturne dust
Stealth doesn't work against Rejects
radiant frigate
"stealth"
nocturne dust
(and sometimes not even enemies 
)
radiant frigate
your destiny is about to be disrupted
deft stump
(and sometimes not even enemies <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163> )
To be fair, lag does that. Watching a bulwark walk through me ignoring me is kinda funny.
nocturne dust
It's not lag
radiant frigate
they just do that sometimes
nocturne dust
Stealth will literally just not work sometimes
and you can absolutely still get hit even when it does work
deft stump
I use shout because funni lines.
nocturne dust
I use shriek because funni laugh
deft stump
And then shouty complains we shout more than them.
nocturne dust
You mean shouty shouts that we shout more than them
while pulling out a book and shouting
deft stump
Yeah.
deft stump
Zealot anything tbh.
Throw knives? Shout about it.
But yeah, haven't you realised I just enjoy boomies vet? If anything, warp touched vet lul.
deft stump
Is just Zealot is safe choice for any and everything.
nocturne dust
yes
Zealot is easier and enables psyker more
and Psyker is the real damage dealer because ammunition is dumb
deft stump
Inf grenades for everyone(heretics)!
nocturne dust
That's literally Trauma
Trauma is just the grenade staff
Literally lobbing an invisible grenade that explodes on contact with anything
deft stump
One is easier to aim.
nocturne dust
Correct, Trauma is very easy to aim 
deft stump
Nu.
quartz barn
Also less charge time
Pulling the grenade pin takes ages and isnt safe
Meanwhile me looking at the floor spamming trauma
deft stump
Pulling the grenade pin takes ages and isnt safe
Uh huh, tell that to me dropping 3 at my feet all the time.
quartz barn
Ye ok but you have a 2 sec grace period with your ping
nocturne dust
Self-damage Havoc modifier in 3... 2...
deft stump
Self-damage Havoc modifier in 3... 2...
You die from Trauma at feet as well, you know.
nocturne dust
You die from Trauma at feet as well, you know.
I don't use Trauma at my feet
Enemies never get close enough
deft stump
Enemies never get close enough <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Sure... Explain wipes then.
nocturne dust
Sure... Explain wipes then.
I don't.
deft stump
I don't. <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
We all know that's a lie.
nocturne dust
Although in more seriousness, normally it's the shooters that get me
or silent whatever
I rarely die to anything melee while on trauma
deft stump
And to be honest, I just like the Fem!LC.
solar schooner
Anyone for a couple runs through H39 and H40?
upper sun
im down for a run through
deft stump
Yes. But anyway, it's not like I didn't mention being that vet who writes yuri multiple times though?
nocturne dust
Hold that thought, lemme go get the Commissar
upper sun
first sip of my morning energy drink
i can already hear my kidneys singing in pleasure
deft stump
I wish I had the commissar outfit to be all. "What do you mean? I'm ze Commissar!" While pulling out my Bolt Pistol.
nocturne dust
first sip of my morning energy drink
solar schooner
first sip of my morning energy drink
Rdy?
upper sun
no
nocturne dust
I mean fair, I need caffeine in the mornings to cleanse my headaches
upper sun
i was joking i am not doing any havoc
deft stump
I mean fair, I need caffeine in the mornings to cleanse my headaches
Caffeine makes me eepy.
solar schooner
i was joking i am not doing any havoc
Oh lol ok
nocturne dust
works with shotgun?
yes
nocturne dust
Warp Splitting works with all cleave, including Assail
of course, infinite cleave means it does nothing buuuuuuut
deft stump
Warp Splitting works with all cleave, including Assail
Even inf cleave?
deft stump
You need booms.
When underslung grenade lawnchair for psykers?
Wait, does boomies count to cleave though?
deft stump
So inf+inf again. Hrm.
deft stump
Oh.
deft stump
Mhm.
nocturne dust
Bigger radius, more damage
torn kernel
stupid question but does KF work for BB penances?
summer prairie
most likely
marble crater
Not a stupid question, though I think most of the people who are here to answer that already completed the penance long ago
torn kernel
lmao fair enough
marble crater
Which penance in particular?
upper sun
stupid question but does KF work for BB penances?
in theory it should
if it gets empowered by EP stacks it should count as BB\
torn kernel
Which penance in particular?
oh just most of em
summer prairie
in Power DI they are both the same attack type
deft stump
Pretty sure it does or I'll never have them done.
torn kernel
not really looking for a specific one, just trying to get penances done while i farm mastery
marble crater
Guess you can test it then and let us know
torn kernel
lmao yeah
glad bolt
hello 🅱️sykers, does anyone know if the souldrinker passive restores toughness when getting kills from purgatus direct damage, or only from the DoT?
summer prairie
I haven't tested it on the server but I think if you are the killer, it always procs if the target has stacks.
no it doesnt
but it probably still always procs with purgatus
glad bolt
not sure if good passive or bait
summer prairie
it's not good, too expensive to get and worse than most alternatives
marble crater
There is a talent that always gives you 5% crit chance and you won't need the toughness regen either
torn kernel
sometimes i hate myself
fiery wigeon
souldrinker is meh but the attack speed node is nice
marble crater
sometimes i hate myself
Nice teamwork
fiery wigeon
the toughness on crit and toughness when peril gain nodes pretty solidly hold up your toughness regen
marble crater
When you quell peril*, but yes
nocturne dust
hello 🅱️sykers, does anyone know if the souldrinker passive restores toughness ...
It procs always on soulblaze kills, and sometimes on non-soulblaze kills
Purgatus direct damage is not soulblaze
glad bolt
Purgatus direct damage is not soulblaze
okay thats what I wanted to know, thanks lad
nocturne dust
Souldrinker is super meh imo, I don't use it on any build
and I have like 35 of them
marble crater
Don't think Souldrinker duration refreshes either, right? Need to wait until it's done and then trigger it again
nocturne dust
builds that is, 35 builds
nocturne dust
Don't think Souldrinker duration refreshes either, right? Need to wait until it'...
yeah, no refresh
Souldrinker is full of hidden L's
nocturne dust
You can take it for like meme builds. If you want to max crit, it is crit.
fiery wigeon
indeed
nocturne dust
at least it's not perilous assault
fiery wigeon
tru
nocturne dust
I hope Fatshark starts buffing/reworking all the nodes nobody takes, they should have usage statistics
deft stump
at least it's not perilous assault
You mean point tax to crit m1 better?
nocturne dust
although I guess pubs will take anything
nocturne dust
You mean point tax to crit m1 better?
empyric shocked
fiery wigeon
at least it's not perilous assault
had me panicking and double checking perilous combustion
fiery wigeon
yeahhh
nocturne dust
that leads to two near-useless nodes
Empyric Shock has one use and Channeled Force has none
😭
deft stump
empyric shocked
Yes, but that is good on the one build. So is point tax.
summer prairie
channeled force wouldn't be too bad without point tax
I'd probably take it with most staff builds
fiery wigeon
Empyric Shock has one use and Channeled Force has none
what is with the awkwardly similar names
perilous assault and combustion, empyric shock and resolve
fatshark please
glad bolt
there's only so many words one can use instead of 'warp'
deft stump
Waiting for Chaos subclasses.
fiery wigeon
i thought the whole point is fighting against chaos
wind spruce
there's only so many words one can use instead of 'warp'
Distort, deform, misshape... there's tons of synonyms
nocturne dust
channeled force wouldn't be too bad without point tax
eeeeehhhhhh
why spend time doing lmb
when you could just rmb more
summer prairie
because it's super high damage even without quell cancelling
deft stump
i thought the whole point is fighting against chaos
But voices.
nocturne dust
because it's super high damage even without quell cancelling
but rmb already kills the things on most staves
summer prairie
I'd definitely take it with voidstrike and possibly with trauma and EK
nocturne dust
It's not really a damage boost because rmb is much better damage on most staves
nocturne dust
I'd definitely take it with voidstrike and possibly with trauma and EK
wat
summer prairie
well, depending on voidstrike pathing
summer prairie
it would probably be higher dps than EK rmb
summer prairie
why wouldn't I take it
nocturne dust
It's +30% to lmb
nocturne dust
dumb, bad, stinky
nocturne dust
and then it's higher than rmb
on EK, sure
deft stump
He wants a krak to his face.
summer prairie
I could rmb maulers/ragers/gunners and then lmb
summer prairie
no
nocturne dust
it's a fully charged rmb
summer prairie
it kills some gunners
deft stump
wat r u lmbing
He just wants kraks to face.
nocturne dust
on Voidstrike, that is a yes
summer prairie
not maulers/ragers
nocturne dust
on Trauma, that is a yes
nocturne dust
no
summer prairie
it barely kills shotgunners
nocturne dust
Bruh
summer prairie
with full charge and buffs
deft stump
You said you wanted it on strike.
nocturne dust
Sure, then RMB some more
summer prairie
yes because with voidstrike I also have surge, so even better for it
and voidstrike too slow
nocturne dust
It'll be faster than LMB in any group situation
summer prairie
right but instead of rmbing again I could just lmb, depends on what else is close
nocturne dust
and voidstrike too slow
you have to rmb anyway
summer prairie
you don't say
nocturne dust
right but instead of rmbing again I could just lmb, depends on what else is clos...
you could
what's the point tho
summer prairie
+30% to an already powerful attack is compelling, not sure what's there to argue
nocturne dust
Because lmb without quell cancelling isn't actually that powerful
summer prairie
if you don't use lmb, you aren't dps maxing, but sure
deft stump
+30% to an already powerful attack is compelling, not sure what's there to argue
2 points.
marble crater
Distort, deform, misshape... there's tons of synonyms
nocturne dust
The power is in quell cancelling letting it be a machine gun
summer prairie
right, the scenario here is no point tax
deft stump
You still probs have better uses like if they ever fix pots.
nocturne dust
if you don't use lmb, you aren't dps maxing, but sure
Sure, but that's for like lone snipers or other things you can kill instantly
+30% ain't doing crap
Only on EK would I say it makes sense, and even then only because EK already is the LMB spam
summer prairie
if you are headshotting it's better single target dps than any staff rmb
deft stump
Free +20% crits.
summer prairie
without +30%
nocturne dust
if you are headshotting it's better single target dps than any staff rmb
Sure, when are targets single in a horde game
summer prairie
plus it has massive suppression while doing that
summer prairie
No point discussing this further it seems
it's definitely higher dps against maulers
nocturne dust
Than a Voidstrike oneshotting a row of them? 
summer prairie
it doesn't one-shot most of the time
deft stump
Than a Voidstrike oneshotting a row of them? <:susgryn:1042377462295830589>
2 shotting.
summer prairie
and charge time is a thing
deft stump
1-shot <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
Is 2 shot. Double booms.
summer prairie
if you have surge, lmb would likely still kill them faster than full charge+proc
nocturne dust
deft stump
if you have surge, lmb would likely still kill them faster than full charge+proc
If there's 6 enemies, it's a crit.
deft stump
Gambling.
To be fair, more enemies, more chance to crit, more double booms.
Unless true aim works the way I think it does.
summer prairie
with crits and buffs, two surge LMBs can kill a mauler
deft stump
Unless you fail at hitting heds.
summer prairie
you bodyshot them
nocturne dust
wat buffs tho
summer prairie
just normal stuff, should hit 750 crits
deft stump
5 weakspot=crit.
torn kernel
Guess you can test it then and let us know <:loregryn:1036580674741731379>
it does 
deft stump
it does <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
Kinda said it should or I'll never get them done. Laziness and even runs hedpop with strike on the off chance.
torn kernel
lmfao
deft stump
I'm left with the scrier's gaze 40 kills and the 15+ DD stacks for stupid long.
Former is I have only used SG once ever.
Latter is just a grind next to impossible with lag.
marble crater
You should use it more often if you want that penance
fiery wigeon
40 kills with scriers is just normal scriers gameplay
deft stump
40 kills with scriers is just normal scriers gameplay
You do that when half your attacks don't land and everyone KSes your kills.
fiery wigeon
maintaining 15 dd stacks is doable with good assail usage
deft stump
My vet WS even tells me how I get 0 stacks in melee all the time.
marble crater
And if you do them on your server?
vernal temple
lol at the symmetry
deft stump
I can't solo psyker, you know.
marble crater
I don't think they have a minimum difficulty, so can easily do it on malice or heresy, the bots will even help by not killing the horde or your targets
deft stump
I don't think they have a minimum difficulty, so can easily do it on malice or h...
You realised we wiped like all the MM runs, right?
We were praying for as early as possible DH to get it done.
marble crater
I don't think I was there to realize that
summer prairie
which penance was that
deft stump
It needs to be the last hit, I think.
The one where you focus target 4 or so elites must be manual blitzed.
fiery wigeon
wait shit no KF doesn't work for the penances
i feel you
torn kernel
worked for this one though
deft stump
Absolutely rng to heck.
torn kernel
Rest is kf NEEDS to be the last hit.
damn alright this'll take a while
summer prairie
no KF doesn't work for that, I knew that since it hooks into empowered psionics code
but for other ones it might
torn kernel
huh weird i swear this went up more than the other ones
deft stump
Well, the other ones is like the one where you bb at max syphon charges.
summer prairie
I might be wrong then, I just looked at that code recently but probably read it wrong then
deft stump
That one, kf works but needs to be last hit.
So slow as heck if you don't just bruteforce manual.
Honestly, if you want it done just do it manually.
torn kernel
fair
deft stump
It really takes forever otherwise.
torn kernel
might as well ig
potent echo
EP smite and hounds
EP assail and hounds probably works better
Unless hounds don't count
fiery wigeon
doesnt empowed assail oneshot gunner heads
potent echo
Depends if crit and/or right click
fiery wigeon
right click changes the damage profile?
potent echo
I just know crit with DD and no EP one shots dreg gunners
fiery wigeon
i thought it was just a range before flying off to god knows where boost
deft stump
Faster and hits harder.
fiery wigeon
neat
potent echo
It homes on whatever you throw so you can swap
summer prairie
base first target lmb damage is 200, rmb is 340
fiery wigeon
damn ok
fiery wigeon
assail is just really nice hvt
i really wish i could have both it and psykinetics
potent echo
Balanc
fiery wigeon
i havent used assail in a hot minute
deft stump
Psykinetics value too gud.
deft stump
What do you mean, my chorus CD is 5 secs?
fiery wigeon
psykinetics is just good enough that it beats out the value that having a usable blitz would bring for me
torn kernel
Assail FGS is just my psyker playstyle now
same it's just a less braindead knife zealot
deft stump
Just 2 psykers blowing everything up.
fiery wigeon
4 vent vb/ek psykers with psykinetics just setting the whole world on fire
deft stump
4 vent vb/ek psykers with psykinetics just setting the whole world on fire
WW5 over who gets the damage.
broken carbon
4 vent vb/ek psykers with psykinetics just setting the whole world on fire
oh shit ur back
what made u return?
upper sun
bad decisions 🚬
fiery wigeon
bad decisions 🚬
tru..
boredom and wanting to check if knife heavy had actually gotten dumpstered or if i was going insane
i think im going insane
deft stump
boredom and wanting to check if knife heavy had actually gotten dumpstered or if...
Eh?
broken carbon
boredom and wanting to check if knife heavy had actually gotten dumpstered or if...
i thought the same
i don’t use knife anymore
upper sun
knives are cringe
fiery wigeon
yeah
upper sun
on psyker?
broken carbon
in general
fiery wigeon
in general
broken carbon
jinx
upper sun
idk dont psykers usually push spam
deft stump
Or everyone got used to the power of the DS4.
fiery wigeon
the attack breakdown is sayin that its a wet noodle next to ds and deimos
broken carbon
ever
broken carbon
using ds is for nerds anyway
true cairn
Or everyone got used to the power of the DS4.
I do wonder what the nerf will be
fiery wigeon
they made the special not utter garbage?
upper sun
and im pretty sure deimos has different specials per attack
broken carbon
is h2 still better single target
fiery wigeon
rip
deft stump
using ds is for nerds anyway
More, funni commissar things, I wish I can get it on my vet again.
fiery wigeon
upper sun
and it has different animations for special L1 and L2 and L3
fiery wigeon
oh neat
fiery wigeon
has illisi become defunct now cuz of fgs
deft stump
has illisi become defunct now cuz of fgs
Nope.
broken carbon
I do wonder what the nerf will be
hopefully just an ADM nerf
upper sun
i dont like fgs too much
deft stump
Sometimes you just want the mobility.
upper sun
it feels too clunky
broken carbon
it’s got far too much into carapace
fiery wigeon
it feels too clunky
really?
upper sun
i think illisi would be in a great place if they bump up its attack speed slightly
deft stump
Also, the strokablity.
fiery wigeon
i like the light spam of mk8
fiery wigeon
just lets me braindead crowds
deft stump
i think illisi would be in a great place if they bump up its attack speed slight...
You take the 10% aspd on it and wheee.
upper sun
like the PA of fgss also feels slow
deft stump
Needs to be baseline, lul.
upper sun
not the post PA attack but the PA itself
fiery wigeon
like the PA of fgss also feels slow
the beam?
broken carbon
i like the light spam of mk8
mk8 is so good, overheads meet all small elite BPs, and PA thrust into ogryns to 1-2 shot them
i loooove it
upper sun
Needs to be baseline, lul.
yeah i agree
fiery wigeon
ah
broken carbon
it is
broken carbon
the force push feels slower than illisi or deimos
but it’s significantly stronger too
deft stump
the force push feels slower than illisi or deimos
It's stronger but slower from my tries with it.
upper sun
but it’s significantly stronger too
is it?
true cairn
hopefully just an ADM nerf
Dunno what that means, Spark 'Ed
fiery wigeon
i dont push very often
deft stump
It can open up some enemies where the illisi just hurp.
upper sun
huh
broken carbon
i dont push very often
but the stab attack…
upper sun
ok i guess then the push is fine
broken carbon
Dunno what that means, Spark 'Ed
armor damage modifiers
damage into different armor types
fiery wigeon
i probably should push more but i rely on dodges and stagger for my survivability 99% of the time
summer prairie
isn't the push strength the same
fiery wigeon
so its kinda a habit to leave rmb alone while meleeing
broken carbon
isn't the push strength the same
no
upper sun
isn't the push strength the same
u get a sick single target attack after pushing
looks cool and does crazy damage
weary crane
how have they not fixed this yet? I wanna use gaze but....
deft stump
isn't the push strength the same
Nope. FGS is better.
summer prairie
I mean the push attack, not the follow up
broken carbon
i probably should push more but i rely on dodges and stagger for my survivabilit...
i only ever push with mk8 for the stab
don’t really use it otherwise
broken carbon
I mean the push attack, not the follow up
it opens bulwarks much more consistently and can shove over crushers
fiery wigeon
how have they not fixed this yet? I wanna use gaze but....
this node was a mistake
deft stump
I mean the push attack, not the follow up
You mean light tap stagger? Not the hold and push?
summer prairie
https://streamable.com/v7535x and one push attack to open bulwark with both
broken carbon
hrm
weary crane
i hate how the push only targets 1 enemy
weary crane
there can be a poxwalker and it choses to push the mutie instead
broken carbon
if it was more than one push on PA then it’d make it way too strong
fiery wigeon
https://streamable.com/v7535x and one push attack to open bulwark with both
huh
neat
ill try that next time i meet a crusher
weary crane
whereas if i use purga lmb, i can push 3 poxwalkers THROUGH A CRUSHER
broken carbon
whereas if i use purga lmb, i can push 3 poxwalkers THROUGH A CRUSHER
yeah infinite cleave is stupid
broken carbon
there can be a poxwalker and it choses to push the mutie instead
also the push is a full 360
the push attack is what’s single target
fiery wigeon
push is 360???
deft stump
https://streamable.com/v7535x and one push attack to open bulwark with both
No clue then, but I assume if it's so, it's just some balancing things.
broken carbon
push is 360???
yeah you can push a burster/dog without looking at it
weary crane
the second push only targets 1 yes?
fiery wigeon
broken carbon
the second push only targets 1 yes?
yes
deft stump
push is 360???
I think the light tap stagger is.
weary crane
the initial push does full, but it doesnt have reach so u cant save teammates for example
broken carbon
crab u know about the mk8 PA into stab right
broken carbon
use it
fiery wigeon
broken carbon
crusher one shot…
fiery wigeon
imagine not running dd in the year of our lord 2025
broken carbon
real !
fiery wigeon
hate the minigame love the bajillion damage
fiery wigeon
vraks is just stupid busted
broken carbon
raking fire, ambuscade, purge the unclean, (and maybe duelist)
fiery wigeon
why are the crit and weakspot mults so fucking high
fiery wigeon
no i havent touched havoc
broken carbon
smart
fiery wigeon
im enjoying my sanity
broken carbon
it’s honestly not that hard
anyone who says tknives bad in havoc is lying to u btw
they’re great
fiery wigeon
it’s honestly not that hard
yeah but i play on nonauric heresy most of the time lol
broken carbon
im mid at video games 😔
darktide is the only game that i’m very confident of my skill and knowledge in
i’m bad at most other games
fiery wigeon
im decent at games where maths wins
like i know i could do whatever i wanted really in warframe
broken carbon
im decent at games where maths wins
to stellaris with you
deft stump
anyone who says tknives bad in havoc is lying to u btw
Depends on user. I can throw all 12 into something and get 0 kills.
fiery wigeon
i am dogshit at stellaris
broken carbon
i am dogshit at stellaris <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
same
i’m awful
i like it
but i’m so bad
dim parrot
Depends on user. I can throw all 12 into something and get 0 kills.
lmao
fiery wigeon
spreadsheet does not compensate for the overstimulation issues when trying to apply spreadsheet
deft stump
lmao
To be fair, high ping to heck so it's already 45% chance to hit in the first place.
upper sun
theres more than one way to be good at math
upper sun
i can do multivariable calc but suck ass at propability and statistics
dim parrot
To be fair, high ping to heck so it's already 45% chance to hit in the first pla...
literally my pov lol
dim parrot
i’m stupid
hi stupid
broken carbon
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iA0nBJoDuAGD273xA?invite=c...
ok here
part one n two
fiery wigeon
i forget my knifes exist too often to have massive skill issue moments like that
zinc phoenix
i am dogshit at stellaris <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Well in fairness to you Stellaris is dogshit
broken carbon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1326531690444623913/W...
LMFAO
fiery wigeon
Well in fairness to you Stellaris is dogshit
lmaooo
broken carbon
Well in fairness to you Stellaris is dogshit
bad.
zinc phoenix
Stellaris is so bad the devs did a series of surveys asking players to help redesign half the game
deft stump
I just panic all buttons when shit gets bad, so could explain increased miss rates on top of well, lag.
zinc phoenix
Like two weeks ago
fiery wigeon
stellaris has had like 5 full economy reworks
zinc phoenix
stellaris has had like 5 full economy reworks
Now it just needs war/economy/pops/diplomacy/trade/espionage reworks and it’ll be great!
It’s a piece of shit
fiery wigeon
zinc phoenix
Even the devs know it
broken carbon
tell us how u really feel
zinc phoenix
Thinking otherwise is cope
upper sun
oh my fucking god some dude is using chatgpt to summerize threads on the forum to shittalk people
fiery wigeon
every game has a forum
broken carbon
oh my fucking god some dude is using chatgpt to summerize threads on the forum t...
some guy tried to make a chatGPT bot to give build advice
upper sun
This game has a forum?
so i can shitpost when i get sick of playing the game
broken carbon
it sucked
zinc phoenix
every game has a forum
False
broken carbon
really bad
deft stump
oh my fucking god some dude is using chatgpt to summerize threads on the forum t...
So lazy can't even use brain to talk dook?
zinc phoenix
Most new games have no forum
zinc phoenix
Because it ends up being a giant shitposting waste of time
If I were made dictator of Darktide I would ban every player who posts on the forum from the game as my opening move
Then delete the forum
Obviously the world is not ready for my reign
upper sun
wow rude
fiery wigeon
oddball for president
broken carbon
Now it just needs war/economy/pops/diplomacy/trade/espionage reworks and it’ll b...
i can’t know how bad it is because i’m bad at it
making alloys hard…
why do the bots have an 11k fleet in the first like 30 minutes
when the most i can make is like
2k
deft stump
oddball for president
So 'Murica goes poof? Well, the US bit, so now we just have wild states?
fiery wigeon
if i do any sane normal person strat thats usually how it goes lolol
whip out the determined exterminator doomsday setup and suddenly its empty space 20 sectors out in all directions
broken carbon
if i do any sane normal person strat thats usually how it goes lolol
i had a decent sized empire, manage to make a 40k fleet, get war declared on me
and they had
4
40k fleets
fiery wigeon
zinc phoenix
making alloys hard…
Answer is simple: stop making so much food
broken carbon
only won by sitting at an outpost
fiery wigeon
cgs too
broken carbon
Answer is simple: stop making so much food
i’m usually like +10 max on food
or just negative
zinc phoenix
i’m usually like +10 max on food
You should have a deficit
dusky crag
broken carbon
You should have a deficit
hrrmm
zinc phoenix
You should also ASAP get up an alloy world and start stacking every possible bonus in it
broken carbon
trade for food ?
zinc phoenix
Yes
zinc phoenix
In the early game you can buy up to 50 of a thing without impacting prices
broken carbon
You should also ASAP get up an alloy world and start stacking every possible bon...
like the alloy foundries, setting it to forge world
fiery wigeon
its 42 per month for minerals and food iirc
zinc phoenix
Early game influence, minerals and alloys are what matters more than anything
fiery wigeon
much lower for cg and alloys
zinc phoenix
You don’t actually want a bunch of systems, just the bare minimum to get you the planets you want
Fleet power is meaningless, properly designed ships will obliterate 10x their fleet power
fiery wigeon
homeworld = techworld, second planet = alloys and maybe minerals but preferably you get minerals on third colony
zinc phoenix
You basically want to use homeworld to stack tech early, then have an alloy world and then every other world builds minerals, energy or minerals and energy
fiery wigeon
theres a reason bots are so strong
zinc phoenix
Bots are nothing
fiery wigeon
get to ignore the useless garbage of cg and food
zinc phoenix
Subterranean mineral earers are the truly busted group
Because your only basic resource of note is now minerals
And you need minerals for everything anyway
Honestly the whole system is just so stupid
fiery wigeon
Subterranean mineral earers are the truly busted group
no pops
zinc phoenix
Everything reduces down to finding out how to not use a game system so that you can shove ever more pops into the alloy production system
zinc phoenix
no pops <:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
Your growth rate is still higher than machines and you don’t have to waste a fortune “farming” ECs 😂
Plus, like, the best way to get pops is still taking them from other players
broken carbon
homeworld = techworld, second planet = alloys and maybe minerals but preferably ...
hrjrmrmm
broken carbon
You basically want to use homeworld to stack tech early, then have an alloy worl...
alright
i’m probably going to try a megacorp next
fiery wigeon
zinc phoenix
i’m probably going to try a megacorp next
Oof, may as well just play without a mouse
Megacorp forces you to interact with all the worst stellaris systems
“Wow a trade empire that needs to use diplomacy to generate its economic output from ai planet management, what fun!”
fiery wigeon
normal bios are 100% cooked and megacorp is the burnt bit next to the stove burner
zinc phoenix
💀
fiery wigeon
you can make some funny numbers with trade empires but theyre not in anything actually useful
broken carbon
“Wow a trade empire that needs to use diplomacy to generate its economic output ...
oh ok nvm then
broken carbon
normal bios are 100% cooked and megacorp is the burnt bit next to the stove burn...
is this why i’ve been struggling
i’ve been playing humans
zinc phoenix
No humans are strong and you can do good stuff with them
Bots are generally considered bad rn
fiery wigeon
consumer goods and happiness management ew
zinc phoenix
People constantly begging for buffs because the only good bot build is rogue servitor
And rogue servitor is only good for bonkers unity production
fiery wigeon
Bots are generally considered bad rn
what changed
zinc phoenix
what changed
I mean it’s been like this since about a year from the release of rogue servitor
upper sun
anyone speak russian
zinc phoenix
anyone speak russian
Chatgpt does
upper sun
i tried to clutch a low levle game for like 4 minutes and i wanna know what my team said
its not written
zinc phoenix
Chat can listen to audio and transcribe it in another language
Use the app on your phone
broken carbon
anyone speak russian
upper sun
ill try google translate on my phone like oddball said
zinc phoenix
ill try google translate on my phone like oddball said
Chatgpt, not Google translate
Google translate is
A) ass
B) will lie about swears
Tell chat you need to know the exact usage of any swears for moderation reasons and it will give you the good stuff
upper sun
i found a place to transcribe it then ill google translate it
zinc phoenix
Well don’t be surprised when google translate lies
upper sun
The cat spit.
Damn, but you didn’t look, that person dragged like that at all.
Yes, I saw, I saw this garbage.
I came back like that, I look, like they put me up or not, and went.
ill take it
deft stump
What the dook?
analog agate
Where is this from?
zinc phoenix
Google translate trying and failing to translate Russian
analog agate
Ah
hearty wolf
I'm not weird at all
The game is too easy
Trains are fucking cool as shit
No more pussy shit of afk gameplay
TRAIN GO CHOO
deft stump
.-.
zinc phoenix
I think the train mission is ok
I think it’ll work better in havoc tho
In aurics the real reason it is hard is that I only ever play it when a team has fucked up and has leavers
upper sun
i think itll work worse in havoc
zinc phoenix
So I drop in halfway with two guys down + a bot and have to clutch my way to a win
In like 4m
Not great!
upper sun
yeah
zinc phoenix
In havoc I will get to play from the beginning and I will win
upper sun
time based mission with quickplay not ideal
quartz barn
Could work, but time limit is pretty tight
zinc phoenix
Tight time limit with a coordinated team is no issue
quartz barn
Havoc train time would need to be double to make it work ngl
zinc phoenix
Move fast as a bunch, block for guy doing obj, win
quartz barn
The cell deposit would be hell lmao
Then again games like gtfo expect way more with less so idk
zinc phoenix
Cell deposit would be easy
Slide around to grab cells with bubble, place cells with bubble, win
The hardest part about that mission is doing it with morons
deft stump
Then again games like gtfo expect way more with less so idk
Including 4 melees at the same time.
zinc phoenix
Vs Gloriana where even good players get yeeted due to incredibly minor positioning errors
quartz barn
Including 4 melees at the same time.
I was thinking along the lines of r8b1 extreme
deft stump
I was thinking along the lines of r8b1 extreme
Still, the basis of asking 4 randos to coordinate 4 melee attacks at once already...
quartz barn
No no thats basic stuff
deft stump
Thing is, randos suck at basics already.
quartz barn
End of r8b1 ex requires you to run past 6 charger scouts, through a nightmare horde to a team extract
quartz barn
Thing is, randos suck at basics already.
But ye true
Also you dont 4 melee at all
Just juggle with 2 at most
nocturne dust
No more pussy shit of afk gameplay
swaps away from incremental games
hearty wolf
The problem with Darktide is the lack of mission objectives and variety at I find Rolling Steel offers a different experience with the same gameplay formula
quartz barn
As long as you break a bodypart big strikers get staggered
And dont melee big chargers...
hearty wolf
Yeah you'd need to update the time to allow for havoc pacing but not by too much so you can't just stall
quartz barn
Unless
deft stump
Just juggle with 2 at most
Ah, mostly heard early on such coordination is a must. Why gave up on it.
quartz barn
If youre bad people stealth way more
But even then gtfo should be played with a set group to get the most out of it
nocturne dust
Can't believe I fell asleep in my bathroom and woke up to Sin hating on idlers 😭
hearty wolf
What's new
quartz barn
Also more fun because its heavily based on knowledge
hearty wolf
How did you fall asleep in your bathroom
Wtf
And I just finished working in the office
wooden sand
Can't believe I fell asleep in my bathroom and woke up to Sin hating on idlers �...
What is wrong with ya 
nocturne dust
What is wrong with ya <:angymorrow:1062670568916267038>
Many things 😭
hearty wolf
But might be spending today with the gf. Unsure yet. She's got a fever which either means pampering or sending to bed for more Darktide
deft stump
But might be spending today with the gf. Unsure yet. She's got a fever which eit...
Pampering is better in the long run, till she shoos you off to go sleep.
quartz barn
Ditching the gf for darktide with deadvoid of all people
hearty wolf
Ditching the gf for darktide with deadvoid of all people <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188...
It's more common than you think
I wouldn't call it ditching
Merely redirecting attention
Her cockatiels can't feed themselves
deft stump
It's more common than you think
I mean, I had gotten broken up with cos someone wanted to raid.
quartz barn
Gamer
deft stump
Wait, YOU got broken up with?
First BF, dumped me to go raid in WoW cos i can't afford subs.
nocturne dust
Ditching the gf for darktide with deadvoid of all people <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188...
I encourage ditching me to spend time with gf
hearty wolf
I encourage ditching me to spend time with gf <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
You're going to Gloriana whether you want to or not.
deft stump
Second one dumped me because another raid.
nocturne dust
You're going to Gloriana whether you want to or not.
😭
strong gulch
@nocturne dust @hearty wolf Both awake.
quartz barn
Maybe dont date ppl who play wow...
hearty wolf
<@249951531552473088> <@204065778167840769> Both awake. <:Sitgryn:10162694206387...
I'll be twoish hours minimum since I'm managing today
deft stump
Then a girl cheated on me with a person who just wanted to bully me off the net.
quartz barn
Stick to ff 
hearty wolf
Maybe dont date ppl who play wow...
This tbh
nocturne dust
Don't date MMO players
deft stump
Was not WoW in the second.
hearty wolf
When I played FF for 16h per day. Gf was fine with it for raid weeks
As long as I didn't continue to do it
deft stump
My current, met in DOTA2 of all things.
hearty wolf
Only for HC groups
nocturne dust
Normal does not mean okay
hearty wolf
And even then, raid tiers don't last an entire week
deft stump
Anyway, horde mode time so heh.
hearty wolf
If you're a HC group who has hands, you have a raid tier down in a few days
quartz barn
My perspective is also scuffed on it tbf
hearty wolf
But since you're doing splits, you're having to do it twice
quartz barn
Im a fren of surana crescence
zinc phoenix
Dating people you met playing vidya is not recommended
quartz barn
Nr1 stream team member
quartz barn
Ye im not that much into ff to know any other high end peeps xd
hearty wolf
Xd
hearty wolf
I never got 7.x so haven't bothered with that tier
hearty wolf
My current, met in DOTA2 of all things.
Well I hope it goes okay with you
deft stump
Well I hope it goes okay with you
Heh. is fine. We squabble a little, but when you deal with cancer all your life, such squabble are nothing, heh.
deft stump
Is the penance for bosses bugged?
Private lobby only.
deft stump
Only BB damage.
compact cargo
Only BB, no talents.
deft stump
You sure private, right?
compact cargo
Yes
deft stump
Cos I did it with someone earlier and it worked.
compact cargo
Because we've done 3
deft stump
Even if it was a chaotic mess.
hearty wolf
Heh. is fine. We squabble a little, but when you deal with cancer all your life,...
Being heated has it's advantages huehue
deft stump
Being heated has it's advantages huehue
Eh?
strong gulch
Is the penance for bosses bugged?
There is a rare bug that sometimes a lobby actually isn't private even though it was set to private. So yeah that's fecks with the monster penance. RIP
strong gulch
It really shouldn't be private. 50% with BB can happen organically so easily.
silver mantle
It really shouldn't be private. 50% with BB can happen organically so easily.
Ive done it like 12 times accidentally in public lobbies
Especially with empowered psionics
strong gulch
YIP
deft stump
Squabbles are good
As long as it doesn't go too far and really, give each other space.
strong gulch
I get it being private if it was still 90% (I think at one point is was 100% but I can't remember). That's quite the investment.
But 50% just happens.
silver mantle
"This is why your dad abandoned you" type shit
silver mantle
I get it being private if it was still 90% (I think at one point is was 100% but...
My confusion was I was sure I had already done that penance a year ago
At lile level 1
compact cargo
In same run or different runs?
Different with multiple enemies
strong gulch
Different with multiple enemies
Would like to try again?
If not now, you can try asking @upper sun to help.
strong gulch
Oh gotcha.
upper sun
yes hi
strong gulch
May it not be a bugged run.
hearty wolf
I need that penance
upper sun
MM?
zinc phoenix
I get it being private if it was still 90% (I think at one point is was 100% but...
it was miserable on release
upper sun
lemme smoke and we can do it
zinc phoenix
you had to convince people in a game to do it
upper sun
it was miserable on release
so clad i waited
zinc phoenix
and then theyd fuck it up
and the psyker would have to do basically all the damage and only with bb
its the dumbest penance in the game
all the others are "do this normal thing" and then the psyker one is like "no one would ever do this in a game because it is supremely stupid but here you go"
strong gulch
and then theyd fuck it up
An ogryn threw a rock on my monster that had a sliver of health left. That was enough to prevent me from getting the penance.
zinc phoenix
then a dog teleported behind you and said "nothing personnel kidd" before instant downing you
sounds insane but no that was just release darktide's netcode 😂
strong gulch
The dogs used to be SO bad.
inland ice
dogs used to be so fucking bad
hearty wolf
old dogs were worse than hookrats
strong gulch
Though there was a while where mutants couldn't grab anything. It was so funny watching them run into the same wall.
inland ice
i notice dogs jumping over me half the time now
pure dragon
What do you cats like (mark, blessing, etc) for your blaze force sword?
eager token
which one
pure dragon
The 1handed one
eager token
there are different marks!!!!
eager token
how is obscurus these days anyway
zinc phoenix
its like when the police do an alert for a black male 5'10" in ATL 😂
strong gulch
Illisi is for hordes.
Deimos is more single target.
Obscurus is the in-between. (the move set was changed and it actually does the job now)
zinc phoenix
"age between 30 and 50" 🙄
strong gulch
how is obscurus these days anyway
actually decent
zinc phoenix
i would have to stop using the fuckin great sword to find out
and im not doing that
pure dragon
I guess since I'm running inferno staff I probably want a mark that covers single target
eager token
actually decent
what did they fix about it
strong gulch
I haven't played with it a whole lot, but it's not bad anymore.
eager token
I guess since I'm running inferno staff I probably want a mark that covers singl...
deimos is good to pair with purgatus
broken carbon
how is obscurus these days anyway
eager token
uncanny strike and kinda whatever else you want
broken carbon
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/jkCLzISgy6nGV8w-O?invite=c...
can also be done with just slaughterer
and uncanny
it’s very strong now
pure dragon
What about perks? Any sort of specifics?
strong gulch
what did they fix about it
It actually kills crushers in a decent amount of time AND has horde movesets. @buoyant maple has info scattered through psyker chat.
eager token
It actually kills crushers in a decent amount of time AND has horde movesets. <@...
oo fun i’ll have to try it out
eager token
What about perks? Any sort of specifics?
if deimos, carapace + flak/unyielding is prob good
zinc phoenix
on deimos?
why?
youre only using it to poke muties
if youre running the 1h fs youre doing it because youre left side and have a staff
otherwise you'd be using something like the FGS
which has way better performance
zinc phoenix
like if you are using the deimos to poke carapace i have to wonder whether you accidentally got your staff stuck in your bunghole 😂
eager token
i am rarely in melee when using deimos i just use it to poke heavies when im not spamming purgatus
strong gulch
On inferno/ purg with deimos, I like unyeilding with uncanny strikes. Soulblaze DoTs actively take on buffs. It' a way to boost boss damange.
strong gulch
like if you are using the deimos to poke carapace i have to wonder whether you a...
purg
queen fog
i am rarely in melee when using deimos i just use it to poke heavies when im not...
I like using the push block to knock things over at mid-range