psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

Same thing with people assuming mettle had good uptime

[deft stump]

Do it on lower diffs. Works on doggos pouncing teamates.

[nocturne dust]

fugging people and their assumptions

[eager token]

its not worth if you run purgatus or no soulblaze build tbh

[zinc phoenix]

Wildfire is good but sometimes you want other stuff

[nocturne dust]

Sure

[fickle nacelle]

has to be done on heresy or higher

[worn beacon]

Also, what perks do I put on fire trauma?

[nocturne dust]

Well, you're just wrong

[nocturne dust]

Flak and crit

crit chance

[zinc phoenix]

10% to 33%

[eager token]

your mom is wrong!!!!!!!!

gottem

[zinc phoenix]

TDR on peril node

[nocturne dust]

Probably

[zinc phoenix]

Is not taken

[strong gulch]

Wildfire talks I see.

[zinc phoenix]

+15 flat toughness also good

[deft stump]

Thus, heresy. Ppl here consider normal to be auric mael for some reason. The influx of new players make it easier.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[hearty wolf]

I thought you were going to respond with some insight xd

[fickle nacelle]

i dont like Shoot Fast because it relies on your teamates being oblivious and you having very precise timing on something that takes like 5 whole seconds to even charge

[strong gulch]

Ha! Sometimes. Maybe if I'm well rested and caffeinated.

[hearty wolf]

Maybe it's an excuse for both

[nocturne dust]

In fact, I would say Wildfire is better on Inferno than any other build

because it can actually kill things on its own when you combine it with Blaze Away

[strong gulch]

Wildfire is good tho.

[fickle nacelle]

im new to the game and i think Wildfire is pretty cool for all the utility you can get by killing burning enemies

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but a bunch of nonbelievers have come out of the woods to argue 😭

[strong gulch]

But I also agree that sometimes I just want other stuff.

[fickle nacelle]

i like turning specials into walking firebombs with brain burst

[strong gulch]

Or I don't want to steal all of my teammates SB.

[nocturne dust]

another good use for wildfire on Inferno

steal the soulblaze

[zinc phoenix]

Don’t try to farm it, just do it naturally. popping dogs as they hair flip and run away is like the number one use of BB

But you can also pre charge and nuke em

[deft stump]

You get all the damage credit.

[strong gulch]

Ye PC (perilous combustion) is the talent that sets stuff on fire after an elite or special kill.

[nocturne dust]

Well, the main reason to steal the soulblaze is for Blaze Away

[deft stump]

Also true. I got it like 2 days after someone talked about how hard it was to get it. I kinda did play quit abit though.

[static needle]

Havoc 23 (pus hardened skin, emperors light 1, corruption hordes)

[fickle nacelle]

ive only gotten 4/25

[strong gulch]

Also yeah, inferno/ purg does benefit from wild fire and can make the most use of it.

That's being said, fire trauma has a bigger need for wildfire imo.

[fickle nacelle]

i did a hunting grounds mission and got zero

[deft stump]

I know, is why I have a build just ignoring them.

[fickle nacelle]

also is it normal for the Electrokinetic Force Staff to have 4 blessing points that are totally unusable

[hearty wolf]

Not that assail subnode :(

[nocturne dust]

yes

[fickle nacelle]

cool

[maiden oracle]

Been using penetrating nexus on flame staff in havoc

[deft stump]

Yes, they have less blessings.

[maiden oracle]

It’s working better than blaze away nexus

[nocturne dust]

I support Pen Flame

[nocturne dust]

Eeeeehhhh

[maiden oracle]

Alright

[nocturne dust]

I like Pen Flame

but crits are better

[maiden oracle]

I was told to use it to handle the swarm of armor

[nocturne dust]

unless you don't stay at high peril much

[maiden oracle]

It felt like it was doing better

[nocturne dust]

I mean it will do better against crushers with pen flame, yes

and a lot of things

but the crits stack up soulblaze quicker which is normally more important

buuuuuuuuuuuuut pen flame is very effective and probably better if you have extra rending from somebody else

[maiden oracle]

So I’m assuming by myself blaze away is better but with a coordinated team pen flames gives better numbers for everyone?

[nocturne dust]

wat

no

Blaze Away is always best

o wait

I didn't even read that

You're using pen flame + nexus???

Do not

That is very bad

[maiden oracle]

What the fuck

[nocturne dust]

Use Blaze Away + Pen Flame

or Blaze Away + Nexus

Never replace Blaze Away

is basically a free 40% damage boost

[hollow current]

The fact that blaze away stacks up in 0.6 seconds is hilarious.

[maiden oracle]

I thought I would want to keep the crit from nexus

[nocturne dust]

not a chance

[maiden oracle]

I’ll change it up again then

[hollow current]

before the crafting/blessing update, sure.

[maiden oracle]

I also changed flak unyielding to flak carapace because it felt like we were getting frontloaded with crushers and maulers

[nocturne dust]

not unfair if you have the brittleness for it

[strong gulch]

maulers are flak for purg/ infero

[nocturne dust]

maulers are flak

ragers are flak

only carapace is crusher

[strong gulch]

even the scab ragers that are supposed to cara chest are flak for purg / inferno still

[nocturne dust]

working as intended

[hearty wolf]

What armour type am I

[nocturne dust]

You think they give rejects armor?

[naive ember]

unarmored

[hearty wolf]

But I could be maniac!

[strong gulch]

We were given PJs

[hearty wolf]

Or unyielding

[maiden oracle]

Got it

[nocturne dust]

Zealot is maniac

Ogryn is unyielding, obviously

Vet is unarmored

[hearty wolf]

Can't you just conjure up some warp armour on Psyker

The gold toughness node

[nocturne dust]

I wish

Maybe when they make meleeker real

Honestly, I wish there was a version of Darktide with just 4 psyker classes instead

Ammo dumb

[hearty wolf]

Every second spent in Scrier's gaze gives you gold toughness

[nocturne dust]

Unlucky for Some gives you gold toughness now

[hearty wolf]

That would actually be lit. Psyker booster pack expansion

[nocturne dust]

It's a losing node tho

Maybe if it was something like "+20 gold toughness max per downed/dead ally"

[naive ember]

In terms of staffs for Havoc 40 does it go Inferno -> Voidblast -> Electrokinetic?

[nocturne dust]

true solo for noobs edition

[nocturne dust]

Inferno/Voidblast is basically it

EK is fine but on the same level of Voidstrike for Havoc under worse conditions

Voidblast isn't worse than Inferno

[hearty wolf]

Then you'd just stare at other people and wait for them to die xd

Free gold toughness

[nocturne dust]

It's just a matter of what you prefer, safety or damage

[naive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/on-fire-so-hot-fire-burning-scorching-gif-18643522

[nocturne dust]

Zealots see enemies as toughness sacks, I see Zealots as toughness sacks

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

Rending Trauma actually can outdamage Inferno on Havoc due to the sheer amount of armor

[hearty wolf]

That's how I feel before all the crushers walk past me for no reason

[naive ember]

but but but horde...

https://tenor.com/view/zombie-horde-mob-attacking-rushing-gif-15724807

[nocturne dust]

Just blow em up

[static needle]

horde is a non issue when your staff has infinite cleave

and explodes them into goo

[nocturne dust]

even if you miss, the horde gets staggered

[obtuse bluff]

what are prefered blessings on psyker curio?

and perks

[naive ember]

Depends on who you ask... @nocturne dust doesn't like Stam regen but @zinc phoenix swears by it

[obtuse bluff]

I put stamina regen on it already, I am not sure what primary blessings should be and other supplementary perks. I assumed toughness, but I have not really played psyker much

[naive ember]

• Toughness x 2 | +Stam is generally what people go...

[strong gulch]

Psyker has really good stam regen already.

[naive ember]

🤷‍♂️

[fickle nacelle]

man i really dont like it when challenges rely on oblivious teamates

[naive ember]

Assuming this is for Havoc?

[strong gulch]

The standard rec for curios is 200 (201) hp with 1 sniper resist. That lets you eat a sniper and tank multiple bursters. The rest is up to you.

non-havoc

[obtuse bluff]

no specifically, just generally

[strong gulch]

Most psyker mains do not stack stam regen. Zealot mains seem to often stack stam regen.

[obtuse bluff]

becauseI'm always sprinting

[strong gulch]

That being said, curios are mostly personal pref.

[fickle nacelle]

i was told to stack wounds

[nocturne dust]

Whoever told you that is really bad at the game or a martyr zealot

[strong gulch]

Someone was goofing you.

[nocturne dust]

and I wholeheartedly recommend stam regen on anyone that isn't psyker

But psyker doesn't need stam regen

[strong gulch]

Psyker regens stam faster than dodge sliding consumes.

[strong gulch]

Ye. To clarify, I mean zealot mains playing psyker.

[nocturne dust]

Not only that, but Psyker also gets Kinetic Deflection which allows them to block near infinitely

so you really don't have a huge use for stam regen

[young falcon]

What's the best blessings on the Deimos sword for boss killing? Rending and.....?

[strong gulch]

Yeah. That doesn't even get into KD.

[naive ember]

but but but sprint and sliding

https://tenor.com/view/slide-gif-25983229

[nocturne dust]

Executor

if you can hit the weakspot that is

[nocturne dust]

Do not consume enough stamina for it to be warranted on Psyker

because you can gain stamina while sprint sliding

on Psyker

cuz their stam regen delay is so short

[queen fog]

Most regular Ogryn slide

[strong gulch]

If you really want to ignore stam as a mechanic, do a +3 stam curio and KD. Never be able to move on another class tho.

Always feel winded on a non psyker. lmao

[naive ember]

@nocturne dust

So your guide says use these sub stats:

+7.5-30% Toughness Regeneration Speed
+5-20% Damage Resistance (Gunners)
+2-5% Toughness

Still up to date?

+13-17% Toughness | +13-17% Toughness | +17-21% Max Health

[nocturne dust]

uh no, for one, the curios are different

for two, that's for auric

[young falcon]

Thanks. new psyker still trying to get the hang of quelling and dodging and not blowing up.

[nocturne dust]

if you're going into havoc I would recommend different substats

and if you're looking to clutch, I would not recommend toughness regen speed

[strong gulch]

Also keep in mind the context curios and their perks are used in too.

[naive ember]

So that stats for Havoc?

I mean Psyker is pretty much paper armor anyway so....

[strong gulch]

What you choose now may not support you later as skill and playstyle change.

[nocturne dust]

ability CDR, toughness, and health or a resist depending on what you fear most

[hearty wolf]

That's it

I'm doing triple stamina curios

[strong gulch]

Corruption. I fear corruption most. So I do CDR, health, and corruption resist. On non blight spreading maps I'm down a perk because I refuse to change gear around.

[nocturne dust]

I run 2x toughness and either 1 health or 1 stam depending on my melee and how much stamina it has

normally 1 stam

[strong gulch]

Tripple stam with delfector and KD.

[thorn cedar]

you can also build to survive an overhead
not like, eat it completely
but not be instantly dead

pretty steep though

[naive ember]

https://tenor.com/view/ahsoka-deflecting-blasters-rosario-dawson-star-wars-ahsoka-tano-gif-6295990790345648037

[nocturne dust]

that's such a meme build tho

definitely not something I would recommend to someone asking for advice

[thorn cedar]

its not that wild

[naive ember]

Melee weapon of choice?

[thorn cedar]

it just means accepting that your toughness is only ever gonna be good for a single buffer

[nocturne dust]

I use trauma or inferno, so normally DS4 or knife. I prefer DS4, but knife is better if you plan on clutching.

[analog agate]

You switched off of fgs?

[nocturne dust]

and dumping a lot of damage

[nocturne dust]

I have for a while

I'd love to use it

[analog agate]

I haven’t played with you in a while

[nocturne dust]

but I can't stop using it

[thorn cedar]

what curios are giving you damage lol

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

You can't survive an overhead on psyker with just curios, can you?

You're gonna have to invest some talents, no?

[inland ice]

yea

[nocturne dust]

especially on Havoc

idk if it's even achievable on Havoc

[strong gulch]

#zealot-class message

[thorn cedar]

assuming H40, of course
crushers overhead for 390 damage, so 117 corruption
your health is cut by 35%
so 150 base hp
(150 x 1.78) x 0.65
87~ HP per wound
2x corruption res
you live

even easier to reach with the 10% hp in the tree

[naive ember]

lol how much stam to block all that?

[thorn cedar]

you'll still go down, but you wont instantly die

[naive ember]

imagine doing that in Havoc

[nocturne dust]

isn't it more than 390?

[thorn cedar]

260 at damnation x 1.5 from havoc mods

[nocturne dust]

oh, I thought we were talking about not going down

[strong gulch]

Without looking and iirc it's 3 +3 stam, delfector, and KD.

[thorn cedar]

nah

this is just so you arent sent straight to respawn

[nocturne dust]

Ah, well, forget everything I said

[thorn cedar]

the magic numbers are 117 corruption for crushers and 112 for mauler overheads

if you can mitigate those numbers then you can avoid the instant respawn

and corruption res is deffo valuable regardless

so again, not that awful a commitment, but it is a commitment

[nocturne dust]

isn't a crusher overhead 416 on damnation?

[strong gulch]

You know what would be funny? If unlucky for some worked on overlading/ exploding and dyeing. Could do a crystalline will healer build. ALSO GIVE IT YELLOW TOUGHNESS. It would still be not great tho.

[thorn cedar]

fuck my ass, i am on the outdated enemy damage page

[nocturne dust]

It's definitely 400+

[thorn cedar]

in that case you can survive mauler overheads

[nocturne dust]

at least as far as I recall last time overheads came up when we were talking about surviving them entirely

[nocturne dust]

Yes, with gold toughness

https://tenor.com/view/gold-joke-seinfeld-solid-good-one-gif-23737331

[thorn cedar]

crushers are doing 187 corruption so

even with 3x cor res you're taking 114

[nocturne dust]

oof

[strong gulch]

Banned hammer. lmao

[thorn cedar]

but maulers can be survivable

[nocturne dust]

I mean, don't I have like... 150 hp on havoc?

I run my auric curios tho

[thorn cedar]

you have whatever hp you normally have x.65

[nocturne dust]

I normally have 200 something

Hhmmmm, .65 doesn't add up

but I definitely have like 215 HP that gets downgraded to 154 or something like that

is there some weird number hijinks going on

I do have the HP node I think

Does the HP node apply after the Havoc multiplier?

[fickle nacelle]

god i hate Shoot Fast so much, did a hunting grounds mission, got zero, did another got EIGHTEEN done, did another hunting grounds mission, zero again

[nocturne dust]

idk wat shoot fast is

[thorn cedar]

the havoc multiplier applies at the end

[nocturne dust]

One sec, lemme check my havoc recordings for what my HP is

[fickle nacelle]

"On Heresy Threat or higher, kill 25 Pox Hounds, Mutants or Scab Trappers using Brain Burst before they incapacitate you or an ally."

[nocturne dust]

yeah, I have 152 HP

and I don't remember having 233 HP on Auric

something here

Yeah, my hp goes from 205 -> 152

That's a ~0.74 multiplier, not 0.65, so it's definitely not a final multiplier if 0.65 is correct

I only have 3 sources of +HP, a curio, a curio substat, and the +HP node in the talent tree

[thorn cedar]

syllogism knows more but

"The havoc health modifier is the same buff as curios and they are additive with each other. The havoc toughness modifier (buffs.toughness) is the same buff as the talent tree toughness nodes, which get added/deducted from your base toughness before curio toughness (buffs.toughness_bonus) adds to that."

[strong gulch]

Yeah BB slow. 😩

Are you running the EP BB build?

[thorn cedar]

and the guide says -35% so

[fickle nacelle]

yes

[thorn cedar]

iunno

[nocturne dust]

That makes more sense

[fickle nacelle]

it just requires precise timing and oblivious teammates

[nocturne dust]

but also it gives a 0.86 modifier if truely additive with curio health which is still wrong

[thorn cedar]

all i know is i cronched the numbers for someone

and it worked so

https://www.twitch.tv/crubop/clip/CrackyEnergeticChamoisUncleNox-3HYGrxn_1xRsedJ3

[nocturne dust]

I mean since I can get to 152 HP

I should be able to survive a crusher overhead with 3x corruption resist on h40, no?

[thorn cedar]

you'd need another 70hp

[nocturne dust]

I thought you said with corruption x3 it was ~110 corruption?

[thorn cedar]

187 cor
one res = 159
two = 135
three = 115

yea on my wrong numbers

[strong gulch]

"Hey hit me. Hey.... hey!"

[thorn cedar]

i had the old damage table post and didnt notice

[nocturne dust]

Hhhmmmm

I bet I can get that much HP

would it be good? No

instant shooter death

but

[thorn cedar]

i mean in that clip cru has full hp

all curios and 3x perks

and he's at 215

so you'd still die

even with 3x cor res

[nocturne dust]

and the talent?

[thorn cedar]

ye

[nocturne dust]

dang

Fatshark, Psyker needs hp buffs

Can't even survive a crusher overhead

[thorn cedar]

i dont fucken understand the hp math anymore

but it worked lol

[hearty wolf]

More hp= good, probably

Not getting hit gives you the most hp though, so I've heard

Simple

[thorn cedar]

i am a tlevel 1231 zealot so i shouldnt be trusted

[minor wedge]

God do I love nothing more than teams that have 0 cohesion whatsoever

[zinc phoenix]

I get team cohesion by having memorized all the spots where I got absolutely cucked by the game in havoc and then telling people what will happen + pointing to a spot where it won’t edit: oh my god I’ve turned into Idira

They may not listen for the first one, they do for the second 😂

[hearty wolf]

That's why you should bring the knife and hold W, it's quite fun

[analog agate]

Tried carrying a team on a havoc 29 as support psyker lol. Bubble and rending trauma. Did more dmg than all of them combined (it included an inferno psyker…). They crumpled vs a chaos spawn/captain duo. We lost

[thick venture]

Whats thw best Psyker class rn

[nocturne dust]

......Psyker

[thick venture]

How dp you see who did what on the team

[thick venture]

Whats the best class?

Fire?

Electricity?

[nocturne dust]

wat

The classes are psyker, ogryn, zealot, veteran

[thorn cedar]

testicular torsion

[thick venture]

Anyways can anyone tell me
I was using a fire one and I was wondering what ones are better

[nocturne dust]

you mean staff?

[thick venture]

We're in Psycker chat right?

[minor wedge]

Its a mod iirc

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[thick venture]

What class of Psyker is the best

[minor wedge]

There is no objectively "Best" one imho

depends on what you wanne do

[nocturne dust]

That question doesn't make sense

[thick venture]

Clear hordes easily

[nocturne dust]

Psyker has no classes

[thick venture]

I think its pretty cut and dry

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is a class

It's not

[minor wedge]

Probably smyker ?

[thick venture]

Mcderp seems to get it

[fickle nacelle]

it would be more appropriate to ask "what build"

[nocturne dust]

McDerp is almost certainly assuming

[thick venture]

Ig but I didn't think id have to talk about semantics on a chat specifically for Psykers

[nocturne dust]

Are you asking for a build? A staff? A blitz?

[minor wedge]

Shush now. Dont argue amongst yourselves, siblings

Keep that for the daemons in our heads

[nocturne dust]

no u

[nocturne dust]

It's literally just use the right terminology

[fickle nacelle]

i think if there is anything Psyker/Wizard class players like talking about its semantics

[cold ivy]

if you literally only care about "most chaff killed per game" it's probably something like inferno staff plus creeping flames warp siphon

just shit out soulblaze everywhere

[thick venture]

Or use deductive reasoning because people seem to get it you chose to be willfully ignorant

[fickle nacelle]

what

[thick venture]

.

[hearty wolf]

Dude is just asking for a build 😭

[nocturne dust]

Work on your communication skills instead of asking others to do it for you

[minor wedge]

Oh no.... my beloved says they're about to full on fight....

I'll skiddadle while I have the chance

https://tenor.com/view/scatter-run-away-runaway-break-gif-20690048

[thick venture]

Probably work on some cognitive reasoning rather than assume everyone should play your tune again if you're not helping leave me alone

[hearty wolf]

Anyway if we're talking about class of Psykers

The emperor is the highest class since he's in a league of his own completely

[thick venture]

So would fire be the best for horde clear?

[thick venture]

Hes kinda half dead though

Also shouldn't they just let him die to be born anew?

[minor wedge]

Noone knows how long it takes a perpetual to come back

In the time he is gone, terra could fall thrice over

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[minor wedge]

Not to mention to "Potential" doomsday device in his big golden throne

[thick venture]

Yeah thats right

[minor wedge]

If he kicks the bucket, terra might go boom

[hearty wolf]

Yep but that's only because he's sitting on the golden throne

[thick venture]

It most likely will tbh

[hearty wolf]

The thing is, it's not necessarily ideal if he gets off it

Bad things could happen

He won't be able to use the astronomicon for example

[nocturne dust]

Nonsense, the god emperor is always ideal

[hearty wolf]

That's why we can't let him get off his toilet

He needs his toilet time

[thick venture]

What types of psykers are being used in Havoc 40?

[thick venture]

I mean can you blame a man wanting to enjoy TikTok

[nocturne dust]

Sanctioned ones.

[thick venture]

Aren't they all kinda not though and what about daemon hosts

[nocturne dust]

All Reject psykers are sanctioned

or the Inquisitor would be a heretic

[thick venture]

I don't believe them tbh I feel like after this is over any and all psykers die

[jovial juniper]

Inferno or Blast

With Bubble

unless you're the flex pick

Then a Gunker might be used for Boss beat down or something

Or picking stuff off with Assail

Yeah?

[thick venture]

I'm not sure how to get the whole tree to show on PS5

Is everything up to par for a Inferno Psyker Class?

I like the Quell gain Toughness but I'm not sure if I can get better damage

Or maybe something I could do better

Head Pop is nice but I found out pus skin makes it so it doesn't 1 tap

I decently and easily shred things on Damnation but I wanna be able to handle 40

[pliant stratus]

Alright, for achevment I have to learn spark’ehd. how to play?

[jovial juniper]

Keep your toughness up

[thick venture]

What type are you interested in
Dodge alot and dont be infront

I like fire

[jovial juniper]

Pick Soulstealer and Quietude
?????
Profit

[pliant stratus]

Not die

[wicked hornet]

the greatest Psyker is the EMPEROR HIMSELF!!!

[thick venture]

^

[jovial juniper]

Also Mettle

[wind spruce]

MANDATORY

[thick venture]

Is profit bad?

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-rew-inside-rewi-distorted-dank-gif-17183483

[thick venture]

Ohhhhh I thought you mean profit as a skill disregard my last text 😅

So do that to keep gaining toughness?

Is there nothing I can do for more damage?

[pliant stratus]

What spell is good to not die

[thick venture]

Fire IMO

But thats a staff

Gotta lvl up first

[analog agate]

Swap Kinetic Resonance to Kinetic Flayer imo. The rest is fine. That is almost my havoc build

[thick venture]

Just for learning purposes why Kinetic Flayer over Resonance

Wouldn't I wanna snipe quicker?

[pliant stratus]

What’s good melee, I kind like the chain axe, but that’s me

[thick venture]

If you feel comfortable I feel like thats a valid first pick I'm a Force Sword user myself

[analog agate]

BR kinda sucks in general and you only use it for pesky bombers/snipers. So KF just gives you more slightly more dps while using your weapon. KR is usually only used when you are building for BR by going the middle keystone tree.

[thick venture]

You could go meta and use a dueling sword

[pliant stratus]

Power lvl to 17 time

Yall get shotguns

[thick venture]

So what should I use in its place then? How would I deal with snipers normally?

[analog agate]

Everyone hyped them up before psykers had access to them. And no one uses them besides one zealot here lol

[analog agate]

You said you are using inferno staff so you would use brain rupture

[young falcon]

Is dome the best or would going left side with the stun and x2 charges be worth.

[thick venture]

Asking again to learn you said I want to use BR with Inferno what would be the downside of using smite or assail instead

[analog agate]

Dome is much better

[thick venture]

Dome is great so you dont get shredded by Gunners and Snipers

Blocks flamers to

Also Santuary builds toughness inside

[analog agate]

Smite is redundant with inferno staff. Inferno staff already does horde clear stuff. Assail is just on the other side of the tree and locks you out of psykenetics aura and wildefire

[thick venture]

Ok so how should I actually use BR then?

[young falcon]

yeah, dome does seem easier to set-up.

[thick venture]

Its worth it

You can even use it to basically block line of fire

[young falcon]

stunning elites seems cool but it looks like it damages the shield so it'd prob break anyway.

[analog agate]

Use BR when you want to dip in and out of cover to kill gunners you can’t get to. Kill snipers. Any bombers further away. Bosses that are moving away from you

[thick venture]

Oh ok
So other than the BR set up is my setup as optimized as its gonna get?

[analog agate]

It’s pretty good yeah

[thick venture]

I was hoping something was wrong 😭

Is there pure op damage stuff I can do?

[analog agate]

I mean. When you get used to the class and not getting hit we all take empyric resolve

[thick venture]

Lemme read that rq

Wouldn't that screw with warp rider?

[nocturne dust]

Dueling Sword mk4, Force Greatsword, Deimos/Illisi Force Sword for Single Targets/Hordes (obscurus is fine too)

[analog agate]

If you can’t stay at high peril, kinda. It’s detractor is nerfing your toughness abilities

[nocturne dust]

The best beginner blitz is Assail

[thick venture]

I'll try it all out ty for the help Diabolic

[pliant stratus]

This is pain to play as yall
I feel so smol

[wooden sand]

Ogryn, why are you even playing as weak bones little wizard?

[pliant stratus]

Achevment

[wooden sand]

Gotcha

Now, want a tip?

[pliant stratus]

Ofc

[wooden sand]

Dodge

[pliant stratus]

Ik
Back line ogryn with spells

https://tenor.com/view/ahh-shouting-screaming-fight-me-lets-fight-gif-16154986

[thick venture]

Ik the stat spread isn't good but blessing any good?

[unique marlin]

I love being bashed around by baddy orgyn's as a psyker.

[analog agate]

Yes

[thick venture]

Ayoo

[wooden sand]

Warp Nexus...? On inferno..????

[analog agate]

Replace either perk for flak though

[thick venture]

I gain alot of peril?

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[thick venture]

Does it not work?

[jovial juniper]

It does

[hearty wolf]

Warp nexus is meta on inferno?

[wooden sand]

No I just find it weird

[jovial juniper]

Blaze Nexus is a thing

[hearty wolf]

How is it weird

[analog agate]

Are we all speaking in question marks?

[thick venture]

Im here to learn is there other things to try?

[unique marlin]

Prob self captures self due to peril overdose

[wooden sand]

I grew with the power of exploding specialists

[pliant stratus]

Blaze force sword don’t mind if I do

[wooden sand]

Instead

[thick venture]

Pop that alt attack and swing with hatred on a single enemy

[analog agate]

What does that mean. Exploding specialists?

[hearty wolf]

Crits on inferno give 2 stacks of soulblaze plus procs mettle

[nocturne dust]

That is a very good and fantastic blessing that is always useful

[hearty wolf]

So it's pretty nice

[nocturne dust]

Showstopper

[analog agate]

Ohhhh

[wooden sand]

I don't know if you are being sarcastic.

[pliant stratus]

What is peril quell

[analog agate]

Ain’t no zealot blessing here

[unique marlin]

Remember, give in to the voices in the head

[nocturne dust]

Wat? Noooooo, me? Never. /s <-- the slash s isn't real.

[wooden sand]

Ofcouse! I will awalys hear Beloved!

[thick venture]

4% would be considered weaker of the 2 right?

[plucky flax]

Exploding blessing is op

[unique marlin]

Dont worry about that third arm. Its very useful

[nocturne dust]

Yes, very OP

[plucky flax]

You explode all over the place

💦

[analog agate]

Either one is fine to have, honestly. Flak is just the main one you want

[wooden sand]

I still don't belive you

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/yell-torpedoes-azur-lane-gif-14231120

[deft stump]

So, drowning under the waves but being saved by a merbirb siren girl who took interest in me? Yes, my head is telling me yuri.

[plucky flax]

[thick venture]

Does the explosion spread the flames?

[deft stump]

Or the voices, I dunno. Yuri gud.

[unique marlin]

Slaanesh welcomes you into the palace of pleasure

[analog agate]

I honestly forgot they put showstopper on inferno staff lol

[thick venture]

Does elite and special enemies mean all the enemies that isn't poxwalkers?

[deft stump]

Err, you are late with that btw. Vet and Psyker mains can attest.

[wooden sand]

It means the ones you will mostly die to

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust o btw (this situation probably occurs only in boss situations) but once you hit 6 stacks of soulblaze, you can only bypass that cap via creeping flames up till 32 ya?

So with inferno, once you've got to 6, you swap to melee and only swap back to refresh stacks?

[thick venture]

But I don't die to anything except gravity 😅

Or barrels 😭

[nocturne dust]

Inferno goes to 15 (or 16 on a crit)

[wooden sand]

16 on a chit....?

[nocturne dust]

if you crit on the last hit, it will be 16

[plucky flax]

Ye

[nocturne dust]

decays to 15 tho

[hearty wolf]

Elite are units that are stronger versions of normal units so maulers, crushers, respers, bulwarks etc.

Specialists have some kind of other function i.e trappers, dogs, busters etc

[plucky flax]

Well the non chaffs

You know the bigger guys

[thick venture]

Oh shiii

[unique marlin]

The ones that bbq us, use us as wet noodles, etc

[hearty wolf]

Oh that's very good. Is it only blaze trauma that stops at 6 then?

[analog agate]

Showstopper is a meh blessing fyi

[nocturne dust]

yes

[analog agate]

Isn’t it 8 now? With blaze 4?

[hearty wolf]

So, what happens if someone with blaze trauma hits a target that's inflicted with Inferno at 15 stacks?

[thick venture]

Yeah it sounds fun though
But I do already feel powerful at choke points

[nocturne dust]

no

[wooden sand]

So crits are only good for that one crit skill?

[plucky flax]

No wtf

It should be though

[nocturne dust]

no

[plucky flax]

What an oversight

[nocturne dust]

crits double your soulblaze application

[wooden sand]

Oh

[nocturne dust]

crits apply 2 instead of 1 stack

[wooden sand]

As if I needed more fire

[nocturne dust]

so very good on inferno

[nocturne dust]

you do

[analog agate]

I can never remember 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

always more fire

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[thick venture]

Purge the Heretics

[plucky flax]

People using crit chance on their burga perk kinda sus

[hearty wolf]

Just refreshes the duration at the current soulblaze count but you steal the damage?

[thick venture]

Burga?

[nocturne dust]

🍔

[plucky flax]

Ye it's tasty

[thick venture]

What is a burga perk?

[wooden sand]

Does it do more damage for each stack?

[nocturne dust]

You only steal damage if you get first stack

It only refreshes duration up to the max stacks

[deft stump]

I am but a fallen sister, one who her soul for a chance to save those who were left behind by the lies. The false emperor lay silent, but they answered. One of fate and choices, one of temptation. Both offering salvation for us.

[nocturne dust]

so 15 would decay to 6

[hearty wolf]

Ah so THAT'S the real reason wildfire is op. No one takes it so no one can apply soulblaze before you can

[thick venture]

To the fire for you

[deft stump]

Nu, grilling them does not make them tasty.

[plucky flax]

Wildfire is actually good. It works as intended and 4 stacks is the cap

[nocturne dust]

Didn't you read my paragraph? It's one of the reasons

[plucky flax]

It's supposed to stop at 4. If it didn't it'd be giga broken lol

[thick venture]

So Wild fire instead of Psykinetic aura?

[nocturne dust]

Just remove DoT caps

[plucky flax]

No wtf

[nocturne dust]

Infinite soulblaze

[hearty wolf]

I just had to nap on it

[thick venture]

Isn't it strong or am I not following?

[plucky flax]

Psykenetic aura is actually broken

[hearty wolf]

^

[thick venture]

I just wanna burn things

[plucky flax]

You gotta take it if you path that way

[young falcon]

for mixed hordes is trauma staff still warp nexus + blazing spirit?

[nocturne dust]

Fire Trauma build? Yeppers

[young falcon]

yis. tenks.

[thick venture]

Would a weak spot hit be the head?

I want to always efficiently use Uncanny Strikes

Ik the Beast its the back

Which is wierd

[deft stump]

Even if you barely kill, the kills you do make is a teamwide CDR.

[thick venture]

So no burning things more then?

[hearty wolf]

Ye

Beast has a headshot weakspot as well fyi

[thick venture]

Where tf is its head?

[hearty wolf]

But it's not as high a multiplier

[thick venture]

The mouth?

[hearty wolf]

Its mouth

Ye

[thick venture]

Bruh

I cannot be near those

[deft stump]

Btw, the BoN's mouth is technically a weakspot as well.

[analog agate]

You are using bubble. So yes you can

[deft stump]

It's just not as good as the back.

[thick venture]

What if it eats me

And the ogryn just abuses me

[hearty wolf]

Thanks for treating me like I'm invisible 😭

[nocturne dust]

Nah, just dial-up internet

[deft stump]

Wait, you weren't talking about chaos beast.

[analog agate]

Bon

[hearty wolf]

[deft stump]

I'm half asleep kay.

[nocturne dust]

Bonbonbonbonbon

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-eating-delightful-taste-gif-21383868

[plucky flax]

But it's noon. Bro is on eu timezone in sea

[thick venture]

So when we getting a Space Marine boss 🤣

[deft stump]

I just woke up and is failing to make lunch.

[hearty wolf]

I'm so lucky that I have flexible working hours

Or I'd be so fucked

[deft stump]

Shush you. This is 'normal'.

[thick venture]

Ok Blaze Force Sword or Greatsword

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

don't divulge my secrets

[deft stump]

Force sword for srs, greatsword for big big sword that's totally not Moonlight Greatsword/Sword of Judgement.

[thick venture]

Wait... even if they're inside the bubble and I am they cant?

[hearty wolf]

No?

[nocturne dust]

lmao

didn't expect the deletion

[hearty wolf]

Sry it's 6am

[deft stump]

No joke btw. It's been like this even before anything eu.

[hearty wolf]

I'm just talking nonsense

[thick venture]

I mean if we're hanging out inside the bubble together

[hearty wolf]

I was talking about Ogryn bubble

[deft stump]

Yeah, bubble just no sell the BoN hard lul.

[thick venture]

Dam I gotta try that

[hearty wolf]

[thick venture]

Whats the issue with talking about the bubble?

[nocturne dust]

I love bubble but it becomes such a crutch for newer players

[deft stump]

Wat?

[thick venture]

I use it for everything
If a hammer works why wouldn't you use it

[nocturne dust]

this hammer can disappear in 6 seconds

[wind spruce]

That's why i flame everyone for using it outside of havoc

[thick venture]

Especially to move my team up a line closer to a gunner

[nocturne dust]

That's generally how you can cause a team wipe

[hearty wolf]

Dw, you're too asleep for the sub conversation 😭

[wind spruce]

Because you don't need it to move your team closer to a gunline lmao

[nocturne dust]

Place bubble, encourage allies to move forward, bubble pops, they all get lasered to death

[wind spruce]

You just run at them and do some slide action

[thick venture]

Never happened yet gunners die to quick

[nocturne dust]

wat difficulty are you on

[analog agate]

Unless you have two psykers with bubbles 😎 Then it is a rolling barrage towards em in havoc

[thick venture]

Damnation

Havoc 15 rn

Not sure which one you wanted

[nocturne dust]

and you're telling me you've never had the bubble pop and your allies get lasered? Sounds like you need to touch grass less

[thick venture]

I never knew it was 6 secs

Never had an issue with it

[nocturne dust]

It's 6 secs of minimum time

[thick venture]

I always have a bubble back also

[nocturne dust]

Bubble pops at 6 seconds because it has invulnerability after every hit which will let it last 6 seconds

if it's not being lasered it won't go down that quick

[thick venture]

My bubble is hot sauce
I use that shit on everything 😅

Spray the room with fire bubble to block shots for the melee people in the team

[wind spruce]

Bubble Bois

[nocturne dust]

oh lawd

[wind spruce]

So cringe

[nocturne dust]

I am a bubble boy but I'm not a bubble fool 😭

[deft stump]

I dunno. Drive me closer so I can whack them with my toothpick.

[thick venture]

Sounds like a skill issue if it isn't broke don't fix it 🤷‍♂️
I haven't had an issue with it so far
I think if its a full team aggressive push I think well all be fine

[nocturne dust]

It is a skill issue, just not for me

[wind spruce]

The skill issue is thinking a team needs bubble to approach a gun line

[thick venture]

I mean you're gatekeeping the usage of a bubble on a game 😅

[wind spruce]

Not remotely

[nocturne dust]

Not really

I'm giving advice on how to play effectively

You don't have to be effective if you don't want to be

[thick venture]

I mean we seem to be pushing through pretty well today

[analog agate]

Smite/bubble emotional support psyker

[wind spruce]

Is it because of your teammates

[nocturne dust]

Well, good luck getting to Havoc 40

[plucky flax]

Very based keep going fren

[hearty wolf]

Havoc 15 is

[nocturne dust]

[hearty wolf]

It's

[nocturne dust]

I believe in your teammates at least

[hearty wolf]

Still malice right? Not even heresy

[plucky flax]

I am only on havoc 5.

[nocturne dust]

Uuuuhhhhhh idk

[analog agate]

It is heresy

[thick venture]

Dam you sound pressed 😅

[deft stump]

Naw, heresy. 1-10 malice.

[analog agate]

Well, I think

[nocturne dust]

I started at Havoc 16

[plucky flax]

Real OGs started at havoc 10.

[hearty wolf]

Either way it's not a real difficulty yet

[analog agate]

I did a havoc 1 today. It was nice

[plucky flax]

iykyk

[hearty wolf]

Only for it to be patched like a day later...

[plucky flax]

Not even a day lol

Like 5 hours later.

[thick venture]

Ty I will it got boring we all took a break to eat and never started again today

[plucky flax]

I got scammed.

[nocturne dust]

I had to sleep 😭

[hearty wolf]

Was practically 16 by that point anyway LMAO

[plucky flax]

Yeah I was 16 by then but if I started at 16 I'd be pushing 20+

So I was annoyed.

[nocturne dust]

It wasn't even a day, yeah

[plucky flax]

Also I made the mistake of hosting.

So rip any assists when i got to 40 in first week.

[nocturne dust]

rekt

[plucky flax]

Stupid FS decision.

[hearty wolf]

It's okay Agent

[nocturne dust]

It is really bad that the host takes all the risk and the least reward

[hearty wolf]

Let's join some random guy as a 3 stack

And go fast on h40

[plucky flax]

That was why in first week everyone was like "Cleared 30 personal rank 16 pleaase give host"

Bunch of crooks.

[hearty wolf]

We had good practice today.

All I need is a better build, better hands, better game sense, better mods, server stability, better weapons and then I'll be good to go

[plucky flax]

Use OP cheat mods.

[nocturne dust]

Chaos Wastes when

[plucky flax]

It makes you play 10% better.

[hearty wolf]

I think I just need to get used to the pacing is all. And also stay as far away from you as humanly fucking possible

[nocturne dust]

Noooo

[hearty wolf]

Because I can't keep up with you in that Gloriana room because you ZOOM and if you hit shroudfield

I eat shit

[nocturne dust]

If you get used to the pacing of Agent, we'll be incompatible

[deft stump]

I'm just going to lag so much, the extra info is just gonna make me panic yet even harder.

[hearty wolf]

I love it so much xd

[nocturne dust]

smh my head

[plucky flax]

I told you I hate speed running.

[hearty wolf]

We did a Maelstrom sycorax in 15m with half of it waiting for people to die

[plucky flax]

It's just dumb skip.

[hearty wolf]

We're not speed running

We're just being fast

[plucky flax]

Oh that one yeah not speed run.

[hearty wolf]

We still kill

[plucky flax]

I like playing fast. But when syllo joined and wanted to speed run it was meh.

[mental grail]

Good fucking luck adapting to that crack weasel.

[plucky flax]

Also when I play 'fast' on zealot I don't use stealth when knifing.

I use chastise.

[nocturne dust]

💀

[hearty wolf]

That makes sense

[plucky flax]

Stealth is only for skipping contents.

[nocturne dust]

It's too late for you

[plucky flax]

When memeing (but I hate speed running screw you syllow)

[hearty wolf]

I've never had to defend myself from 4 BoNs and 500 crushers and ragers from all directions before

[plucky flax]

I play faster because I don't need mats anymore... 300k plasteels be like

[nocturne dust]

Pretty soon you'll evolve into Atlas and Tren tier

Unable to go slow on Havoc

😭

[hearty wolf]

I'd be interested in carbon copying one of your builds and seeing how we perform on the same mission

[hearty wolf]

Don't say that 😭

[nocturne dust]

but

but looting

[hearty wolf]

I won't forget my roots

I had to give up looting in those runs TBF

Was too dangerous

[nocturne dust]

That's what they all say

[hearty wolf]

Agent gets to the next mob pack and they'll all die

That's like an extra 100k dmg gap

[nocturne dust]

Disgusting

[hearty wolf]

Phaage tree mission I was doing so well

Then I decided to play the mini game

And then I got hit

And had to do it again

[plucky flax]

I would do it too but you got to it first

[hearty wolf]

But I forgot which ones were the correct ones 😭

[nocturne dust]

I just rapid click them all

[hearty wolf]

I've seen there's like a mod for mini games like that. Do you have that as well then?

[nocturne dust]

[wicked hornet]

does that render portrait still cause performance issues?

[hearty wolf]

Potentially valid strategy

[deft stump]

I still need my mats, hrmph.

[plucky flax]

Ye it highlights the correct one as white. Makes it faster to do that dumb hacking

[hearty wolf]

I'd consider that to remove rng then I think. Otherwise it just makes it suboptimal for me to do puzzles if everyone else is faster

[nocturne dust]

I don't need mats

but

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4883506

[deft stump]

Yes, for some. If you don't care for it, just turn it off.

[hearty wolf]

What else disgusting was Syllo using purg and quell cancelling macro xd

[nocturne dust]

Render potrait being such a tax is 💀

[hearty wolf]

It gave him so much stagger

[nocturne dust]

True

[hearty wolf]

I could only live with knife out

[nocturne dust]

I hope they kill cancelling

It would be so easy to do

[hearty wolf]

I gotta hunt for +3 stamina curios on Psyker if we do that again tho, I literally don't have any

[hearty wolf]

Yeah they absolutely should. Especially for surge

That shit is ridiculous

[deft stump]

Is it even worth not having any toughness 17 or hp 21? I have like 6 real +3s on my Psyker.

[plucky flax]

It's much easier on zealot.

Because it's naturally faster with more base stam and stealth.

[nocturne dust]

sometimes

[hearty wolf]

For the runs we were going at, it was needed just for the sprint speed

[deft stump]

You get blown up even on damnation by anything getting near lul.

[nocturne dust]

wat

[hearty wolf]

Yeah I can imagine. And also the toughness from shroudfield.

That being said, I'm sure if you were on Psyker, you would still have performed better. I want to minimise that skill gap if possible.

I think I also might not be using the knife lunge properly or something because I don't feel like it gets me that much more speed. Or maybe I just don't notice it.

The bubble was absolutely not it

That's for sure

[deft stump]

Play with up to 380 ping, forgot I had FGS on a build, build was for ranged staff shenanigans that worked with penances I was chasing.

[hearty wolf]

If I had more movement speed, might have been nice to break LoS's but Scrier's movement speed or venting would have been a lot better

But I didn't know how to build for that on the fly

[deft stump]

Panic extra hard when crushers no get 2 hitted.

[hearty wolf]

I just used my gunker build

Then swapped to havoc purgatus build xd

[deft stump]

Because half my attacks don't actually land at that ping.

It kinda makes slower weapon extra punishing but faster ones means I never get stacks due to KSed.

[hearty wolf]

It's like pox hardened skin. They just get a modifier called warp speed

[plucky flax]

Speed from the knife is when charging heavy attack.

The slide is just to minimise stamina loss.

[deft stump]

Is just normal damnation and maybe auric because you all are sadists.

[nocturne dust]

Suffer

https://tenor.com/view/skeletor-myah-myaah-myahahaha-laughing-dasmemistgut-gif-336039619469791592

[deft stump]

I see you want to carry me to 40.

[nocturne dust]

more like I want to see you endure Havoc 40

[deft stump]

When Chaos drops, we doomed.

[hearty wolf]

Good luck

[nocturne dust]

Besides, it's not really a tide game until you experience true stupid enemy shenanigans

like 25 banner carriers stacked atop each other

[hearty wolf]

Yeah I got that. Hm, maybe I'll record a clip just to make sure.

Fucking Gloriana 😭

[plucky flax]

It's crap map anyway I keep ledging myself.

The big dodge is too powerful.

[deft stump]

Eh, only trying if Chaos is free tbh. No point in a guaranteed loss otherwise.

[plucky flax]

You're the only one here referring to me as chaos and not agent.

[deft stump]

Wut. Agent is a title or summthing.

[nocturne dust]

Don't worry, I can do my patented almost clutch where I spend 30 minutes futilely surviving while everyone else gets to watch

The rejects broke before I did

[deft stump]

I have a phone

[nocturne dust]

Oh, in that case I'll get the lucky revive off while you aren't looking

Only for you to get dumpstered as soon as you realize you're alive

(This has happened more than once)

[plucky flax]

First name Agent second name Chaos.

So both works.

[nocturne dust]

Mr. Chaos

[plucky flax]

AladyOrder

Kat

[nocturne dust]

o lawd

[plucky flax]

That's actually so good I gotta steal it.

Funny swedish grill

[deft stump]

Is me though, you should revive Chaos first. I can barely play unless you need a chorus.

[nocturne dust]

I pray we all find our lady orders or something 🙏

[plucky flax]

I can probably do a round or 2 soon.

Drinking coffee and chilling atm.

[nocturne dust]

In my panic I will revive whoever is closest

as is tradition

[nocturne dust]

I'm going to bed

🛌

[deft stump]

I see. I can one hand controller, one hand phone, I guess.

[deft stump]

He running away already. Claims want to watch me suffer, flees to bed. Hrm.

[nocturne dust]

I normally not-normally sleep at this time

[plucky flax]

Good night.

[nocturne dust]

Danke, I shall try

[deft stump]

Still, nini then.

[nocturne dust]

I will be back if the insomnia keeps me awake

[deft stump]

We might have run out of 40s by then.

[nocturne dust]

I have my own 40

[deft stump]

Knowing my luck and ability to play.

[nocturne dust]

Don't remember what it was tho

I think Torrent

but I'm sure it will magically be Gloriana with pox gas and blight

[hearty wolf]

It was, yeah

[deft stump]

I will jump off the edge if it's Gloriana.

More so if it's fart gas Gloriana.

[hearty wolf]

Gloriana is beautiful

[deft stump]

You can't stop me.

[nocturne dust]

I do liek snow

Need moar snow maps

[deft stump]

Not when it's covered in farts

[hearty wolf]

The question is, can you make it far enough into the map to see it xd

[nocturne dust]

😭

[deft stump]

As yes, the first event.

[nocturne dust]

I can run stealth, actually

[deft stump]

Nobody in pubs know how it works.

[nocturne dust]

I don't know how it works either

I just do the thing and it works

[deft stump]

I know need speed and push red things.

[plucky flax]

I noticed power matrix was changed slightly for christmas?

[nocturne dust]

The fact you have to be quick about it is kinda stupid

[plucky flax]

There was some snow.

[nocturne dust]

oh yeah

One of the other maps did have ice on it at a part

[plucky flax]

It was cool I like it.

[nocturne dust]

Yeh

[deft stump]

Hard to be fast when so much bs is around.

[nocturne dust]

I hope Fatshark reworks Gloriana

I don't like a map being such an outlier in difficulty

[deft stump]

And there's still the door glitch.

If oggy stands near the door at the end, perma stuck.

You get trapped between the door and the railing.

When it opens.

[plucky flax]

You think it's much harder?

[nocturne dust]

Gloriana? Generally, yeah

[deft stump]

Dunno if human chars is the same, but saw an oggy get stuck before.

[plucky flax]

Silo is hard

[nocturne dust]

which one is silo

[plucky flax]

Silo cluster.

Goopy eyes at the end.

[nocturne dust]

I don't remember map names so that means nothing

[plucky flax]

Going down some metal staircase at the start with 100000 shooters.

[nocturne dust]

ooooo

yeah that one sucks too

[summer prairie]

challenging maps bad

[nocturne dust]

It should be the difficulty that challenges, not the map

[deft stump]

No bubble, no booms, pain.

[nocturne dust]

[summer prairie]

hmm

[deft stump]

Oh hai.

[summer prairie]

hi

[nocturne dust]

oh yeah I had a question for you

how does Havoc's HP multiplier work

cuz I go from 205 -> 152 HP on psyker

and that is none of the mults people gave me

[deft stump]

Factored in rounding as well?

[nocturne dust]

I wouldn't go from 205 to 152 due to a rounding error I don't think, it's a drastically different mult

The stated one I was given was 0.65

[hearty wolf]

For the Gloriana midgame event, the way it works is that there will always be one faulty synchronister (sp?) per row. They will turn on in a line, starting from the far left each time. You can do it in one cycle or at least cut down on cycles by following the order so you can do a reset immediately and not have to start from the beginning. You can't lose progress on fixed ones.

The generators activate in sequence. Left to right back to front. There are 6 or 8 in the first row to activate, 6 or 4 in the middle row, and 4 or so in the last row. Iirc.

On lower difficulties, one or more people can just run with them. On higher difficulties, it is better for the party to clump together and fight to the generator that needs activation. The longer it takes to restart all the generators, the more, and more difficult, mini events during the final stand.

The progess of the generators saves between restarts, so you can take your time as a party, to avoid a wipe. But the enemies don't really stop coming, either.

[deft stump]

Depends on how stupidly coded it is, I would say.

[hearty wolf]

Two different Reddit posts I found

[summer prairie]

it's additive with your curio health modifiers

[plucky flax]

This is normal for silo. Only 338 smol shooters killed by me.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1323608160665337897/image.png?ex=67771be8&is=6775ca68&hm=02c002936468ef8b88ceb22e1424a3056dee09a97c6ce17795d81ea1a3c7d81a&

Nearly 500 smol shooters spawned in that round in total.

[nocturne dust]

Someone mentioned that

but that doesn't add up either

[summer prairie]

what are your curios/talent tree nodes

[deft stump]

PAIN.

[nocturne dust]

I have 1 health curio and 1 health substat with the health talent node on psyker

[summer prairie]

so +36%?

[nocturne dust]

yeh

+21%, +5%, +10%

[summer prairie]

21+5+10-35

1%

150*1.01

rounded up

[nocturne dust]

They're all additive?

[summer prairie]

yes

[nocturne dust]

That makes more sense

[deft stump]

So weirdly caculated, I guess.

[nocturne dust]

actually it's simple

which is why it throws me off

Fatshark never goes simple

[summer prairie]

well of course the toughness penalty can't work the same way, too easy

[deft stump]

Oh.

[nocturne dust]

of course not. How does that one work?

[hearty wolf]

-45

Just flat

Iirc

[summer prairie]

it's just a flat penalty to your base toughness before curio buffs get calculated, like taking a negative talent tree node

[nocturne dust]

[hearty wolf]

That doesn't stop me from running more for 0 reason

Anyway imagine

If as a substat

You could have +1 stamina

[nocturne dust]

Instant substat meta

[deft stump]

Yes plz. I can run more hp on zealot and take stam as sub.

[nocturne dust]

Wait if it's flat....

[summer prairie]

with 3 extra toughness nodes you'll have normal toughness

[nocturne dust]

Hear me out

[hearty wolf]

Ngl when I go to normal mawl

What the fuck

Am I looking at

Go away

Go to sleep

Now

[nocturne dust]

You are looking at a build that gets +45 toughness

[deft stump]

What even is that build?

[hearty wolf]

It's not a build

[nocturne dust]

and an extra 15 I think

[hearty wolf]

Avert your eyes child

He's been corrupted

[nocturne dust]

I mean hold on

[deft stump]

I don't think I can make something worse.

[hearty wolf]

Perils of the warped one too many times

[nocturne dust]

It's just warp siphon

on a bubble build

[deft stump]

Suuuure.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/raise-eyebrows-gif-3379585795829632091

[summer prairie]

that's still not normal toughness, most of those nodes you take anyway

[nocturne dust]

True

But you get an extra 2 toughness nodes

and another extra point to spend where you like