psyker-class

[marble crater]

Nexus with Blazing

but Rending has its uses as well

[plucky flax]

Rending is only used in havoc.

For maelstrom you're better off with blaze.

And you're only using rending if there's a burga user on team anyway, at least that's how I'd do it.

[peak kelp]

burga?

[plucky flax]

It's very tasty.

🅱️ urgatus.

[peak kelp]

oh

[sturdy reef]

anyone wanna do a havok 40

1 slot left

[plucky flax]

No it's too hard.

[patent mango]

i only play sedition sadly

[sturdy reef]

[silver mantle]

Same 2 maulers is the end of me

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1321371717599367198/Greatsword_Elmo.gif

[patent mango]

yeahh sedition goes wild when it spawns 6 groaners

[marble crater]

Assail can't keep up

[plucky flax]

Boss music comes on when the groaners gang show up
https://youtu.be/CCMMHN6rBMo?t=58

[queen fog]

Boss battle health bar shows up

It says soldiers of nurgle

[patent mango]

me dodging all the groaner 1 shot attacks

[queen fog]

It’s just a few groaners

[upper sun]

man you guys are shit talking sedition but have any of you tried leveling a new char

[marble crater]

Speaking of music, I wish the Disposal Unit remix would play for random captains showing up in the mission

[silver mantle]

Yes

[patent mango]

all 4 yea

[upper sun]

it really feels like that

[queen fog]

Ngl one of my friends died to soldier of Godrick a few days ago

[sturdy reef]

nah

no shot

[queen fog]

Haven’t laughed so hard in a while

YES Bro

[bold cape]

i dont blame him
the soldier of god

[silver mantle]

My first match on my psyker was an auric maelstrom

[sturdy reef]

criminal

[queen fog]

He was too greedy

[silver mantle]

That was rough

[bold cape]

hardest boss in souls history

[peak kelp]

for psyker dueling sword what are good blessings

[upper sun]

my first game on my second zealot was auric damn

it was super easy

[bold cape]

sister friede aint got shit on him

[upper sun]

ask @marble crater

[silver mantle]

Tracks

[queen fog]

Bro was too antsy to fight the dlc stuff he got humbled by the goat himself

[upper sun]

no deaths

level 1 char

[silver mantle]

Was running tac axe and laspistol

I was in fact carried

[marble crater]

It's true

[upper sun]

pfff i did the carrying

[bold cape]

only games ive ever hitless'd are ds3 and sekiro
couldnt care to do it for the others

[silver mantle]

Try carrying on psyker

[marble crater]

Lvl 1 to 7 or 8 in one mission

[silver mantle]

level 1

[upper sun]

yeah

[bold cape]

sl1 peak

[silver mantle]

With 75 toughness and hp

[upper sun]

yup

[silver mantle]

And no staff

[upper sun]

zealot bby!

[haughty star]

The one I prefer is the brain burst one

But i don't hardly ever use the brain burst. It's taken for pathing and the kinetic flayer augment

I do still prefer the brain burst over smite to use tho especially when I'm using vraks mkv because the vraks takes care of bosses and ogryns and the greatsword takes care of everything else, bb gets used for the pesky sniper here or there

But the assail one is closer to "meta" i personally find the bb one i posted easier and overall just smoother to play cuz you're just always in scriers rather than juggling between scriers and assail

[haughty star]

Uncanny and whatever

Riposte or rampage are good, some recommend agile which might help if you're newer at the cost of some bps

[plucky flax]

Warp traveller and nightsider best songs.

They are the most 'psyker' tracks.

[upper sun]

wow

i am in awe

this dude spent so long m1 spamming a trash mob with a ds4

[marble crater]

Also great, just like the rest of the soundtrack honestly

[haughty star]

If it's zealot that's reasonable

[upper sun]

just two heavy attacks

someone opened the back door on us

[haughty star]

He just tryna farm up cdr lol

At least that's why I light spam ds

[prisma oyster]

thanks, tried the assail one in arkanium. don't understand the whole scrier's thing, but will test it in a run tomorrow

[haughty star]

Its just more damage.

More finesse and straight up damage and 20 percent more crit chance with tdr and movement speed and so on wrapped up in it

[prisma oyster]

so, keep active for as long as possible. and is it melee only or also ranged?

[upbeat kestrel]

you want fast firing weapons with it. or the new 2hswords

[haughty star]

You can do either

[prisma oyster]

thanks, will try it tomorrow.

[upbeat kestrel]

or melee of your choice

[haughty star]

Yee I suggested recon 12, vraks 5, or heavy las 2

[upbeat kestrel]

after i tested it

[peak kelp]

assail and scriers dont really work together. its deceiving that they are on the same side of the tree. but generally i find they woork seperately

[upbeat kestrel]

all infatry autoguns work good

[haughty star]

Yeah vraks is just the best

[upbeat kestrel]

yes

[peak kelp]

assail you lob into mixed hordes or snipe, and when your peril is built up and you recharge, swap to melee or gun

scriers is just a damage buff for melee or shooting

[upbeat kestrel]

columnus 8 is nice middle ground of being less ammohungry

and agrip being even less ammohungry and packing a punch

[haughty star]

Yeah that's why I run my temu zealot with flayer so I can just straight up be on scriers all the time

[upbeat kestrel]

psyker with 2h sword and +40% movement speed is stupid

[peak kelp]

you ever have a weapon that you absilutely hate when you start using it, but love when you hit full mastery

[upbeat kestrel]

of only the dd buff for speed lasted longer

[upbeat kestrel]

yes assail

[haughty star]

Thats what I use^^^

I like assail i just don't like it for melee focusing

[peak kelp]

i have a feeling voidsblast is gonna fit that bill because i absolutely hate it right now

[haughty star]

Strangely enough lol

[upbeat kestrel]

luckily because of a bug i dont have to level shovels and devil claws

[haughty star]

Pretty much any stave sucks big butt until you get to at least 400 rating

[peak kelp]

poop shovel or sapper shovel

[upbeat kestrel]

vet shovel

oggy shovel is life

[peak kelp]

vet shovel slaps dude

[upbeat kestrel]

before picks existed

[upbeat kestrel]

for my builds and looks it does not work

[peak kelp]

the heavy sweep is so easy to use and control hordes

[upbeat kestrel]

so is psword

and heavy sword

and caxe

[peak kelp]

i leveled devils claw alongside recon lasgun and marksman perk by mag dumping into hordes I dont think I pulled the devils claw out once

psword is good, but with shovel you dont have to fuss with power activation

I personally prefer it because of that

[upbeat kestrel]

most of the time now i use either the shock maul, combat axe or mk6 knife

depends what build i ran on vet

[peak kelp]

I have yet to touch the shock maul

[upbeat kestrel]

but on zealot relic blade is love relic blade is life

[upbeat kestrel]

i prefer the munitorum one

and its better imo

but you start with the other one as base i think

[peak kelp]

anyone play with a 40 havoc psyker named pyro?

[haughty star]

@vague rain is it you?

[haughty star]

Idk if it's them they in strike team 45

[upper sun]

its me

i was him

[vague rain]

Yo whats up Scuba

I have all my characters called Pyro

[haughty star]

[vague rain]

But I did Havok 40 on my Zealot

so probably aint me

[haughty star]

I think it shows your havoc level on all chars

[vague rain]

Oh

Yeah

I played with a random called Scuba earlier

[verbal thistle]

That was me

[vague rain]

So probably was me

[peak kelp]

yea i was wondering if you got havoc on psyker or not

[plucky flax]

Not me I am chinese.

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/chinese-monk-kid-gif-14444792503893600825

Literally chaos

[plucky flax]

My psyker's called Winnie the Pooh in chinese letters.

[analog agate]

Lol

[vague rain]

Bubble + Abilty cooldown + Flame staff

if you want to Havok 40 as Psyker

[peak kelp]

i cant survive havoc above 30 as psyker

[vague rain]

Just stay in the bubble and stick as a squad

Also do not pick smite

Smite is dog and only for low levels

[haughty star]

Just build a havoc bubble and play it for like a week straight on auroc heresy and dam

Thats what I'm doing lol

[nocturne dust]

It's actually really easy, just don't get hit

[haughty star]

Simply be better

[nocturne dust]

Eeeeehhhhhhh

I mean smite sucks for gameplay

[haughty star]

I think he's talking about low level havoc

[nocturne dust]

but if you want effectiveness it's great... provided you have someone else for DPS

[vague rain]

Nah bro

Above level 15 havok

Smite is a loss

[nocturne dust]

well, smite is still smite at high havoc

I'm am now forced to do a Havoc 40 with smite

[analog agate]

I would assume smite + shriek is still good at high havoc. I haven’t tried it though

[nocturne dust]

Smite + bubble would be fine with another Psyker running Inferno

[peak kelp]

assuming a second psyker with a bubble

[analog agate]

I have done that with someone (them smite). Never again

[haughty star]

Id smite for havoc it i could find a team that's worth a damn lol

[analog agate]

Smite is already shitty on normal without vent. It is even worse on havoc

[vague rain]

Every sucessful mission I have had above level 30

[nocturne dust]

Let's be real, it's not crap, it's stupid amounts of stagger. The only reason it's seen as crap is because it makes you reliant on teammates if you use it that way.

[vague rain]

2 Bubble Psykers with double flame staff,
Book Zealot
Veteran

[nocturne dust]

And your teammates better be functional on high Havoc, so I see no issue

[haughty star]

What does veteran run? Res shout?

[analog agate]

Yeah. I guess my view is coming from 85% pub play so there is that

[plucky flax]

Double flame?

[vague rain]

The Veteran had the ammo ability, and exclusively picked up all the ammo,
I was book Zealot with Purify, to take out cleanse.

Oh dude

No

[nocturne dust]

double flame???

[vague rain]

Veteran had the shout to give yellow armour

[plucky flax]

Double flame is RIP dps

[quartz barn]

most dmg ive ever done lol

[vague rain]

Flame staff is the best DPS high level

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[quartz barn]

still no true survivor tho 😦

[plucky flax]

Yeah but why are you stacking 2.

[vague rain]

2 Flame staffs, and my flamer on Zealot, all adding birrtle

Brittle

[nocturne dust]

But you don't get 2 different dots

[vague rain]

and the Veteran just blasting

[nocturne dust]

Rending Trauma would be better

instead of 2 Inferno

[quartz barn]

zealot should be on bolter for boss dps

with bleed

[nocturne dust]

especially because pen flame stacks with rending trauma

[vague rain]

I'm just saying personal experience, All the successful missions I have done that was the comp

And boss DPS is not an issue,

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you can run suboptimal and win

doesn't make it optimal

[vague rain]

The problem with level 35

[haughty star]

I never thought I'd see the day where purg bubble would be the goat

[vague rain]

Is you have like 10% ammo from ammo pickups

So the 1 vet, will pick up all the ammo just to be able to shoot

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf pick one of these. 😆 😂 🤣 😎

[patent mango]

man inferno is so busted

im playing a run with it

[nocturne dust]

We love our flame staff

[patent mango]

eh

[nocturne dust]

Silence complainer

[patent mango]

nuh uh

[nocturne dust]

[haughty star]

I don't like it at all. It's just better than trauma for me

[nocturne dust]

I mean Trauma is safer

because it can deal with and knock over crushers

so Inferno doing more damage makes sense

[analog agate]

Only reason it beats out VB on high havoc is because of the peril stuff imo

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmm, no, 15 stacks of soulblaze does work

[vague rain]

I have a question on that

Does 2 psykers soulblaze ability affect other psykers enemies

[nocturne dust]

wdym

Blaze Away only affects enemies if you get the first soulblaze stack

[vague rain]

Psyker 1 sets an enemy on soulblaze, psyker 2 kills, does it spread soulblaze?

[nocturne dust]

You 'own' the stacks if you get the first stack

which is why Blazing Trauma is bad alongside an Inferno

but also

the 'on death from soulblaze' talents like souldrinker do not care about ownership

any soulblaze counts

I believe Wildfire does care about Ownership

[analog agate]

Are you asking about Wildfire?

Yeah, that is what I assume he is asking about

[vague rain]

Gotcha

[analog agate]

Which is funny, cause the description doesn’t mention ownership

[nocturne dust]

I mean, PC doesn't work if the kill is from soulblaze anyway so it has to be Wildfire unless they don't know that

[nocturne dust]

Wildfire specifies "your soulblaze"

In Fire Reborn and Souldrinker do not

[plucky flax]

Pyro next time you run 2 psykers try 1 rending trauma 1 burga.

Run will go even smoother and faster.

[nocturne dust]

Try 2 smitekers

Run will be very slow, very boring

[plucky flax]

Don't ask the zealots to do damage.

[celest valve]

only if they're bad

EP smyker can basically deal with 90% of a run themselves faster than any other class

[nocturne dust]

I mean, less DPS is going to be slower than more DPS

[marble crater]

Source?

[nocturne dust]

It's still less damage than Inferno

15 soulblaze stacks big damage

[celest valve]

so how does inferno damage every single unit on the map simutaneously

[nocturne dust]

How does smite

[marble crater]

Without smite you can walk to the units quicker

[celest valve]

EP faster jumps with smite upgrade for +1 jump

[nocturne dust]

And?

Still has range

[celest valve]

that hops from unit to unit spreading like a virus to the entire map yes

[nocturne dust]

uh no

Smite has a range cap

Do you not know?

[celest valve]

it takes like 3 seconds basically to kill an entire horde before you reset and charge up for the next horde

[nocturne dust]

It only goes so far from your psyker before it'll just stop

[celest valve]

anything that isn't a horde just gets deleted by electrokinesis staff

[late wolf]

Surge staff the goat

[zinc phoenix]

Until they back into a corner and get their dick stomped by a boss because they were too busy smiting to follow the relocation ping

[nocturne dust]

This is an exaggeration, and Inferno will output more damage for that

[celest valve]

ok yes i have been skillchecked several times playing EP smyker ok :c

[nocturne dust]

because 15 stacks of Blaze Away boosted soulblaze is a lot

[marble crater]

EP smite is boring, don't play it

[zinc phoenix]

I had a psyker duo in a true survivor run today maybe like 40m ago who did that while I was book supporting

[nocturne dust]

Like smite is very strong but it isn't the most damage, it's just extremely easy and safe

[zinc phoenix]

I was cheesed off because we had an easy way out and two bags

But despite repeated pings they backed into a dead end and got mauled by pogryn and captain before I could book them out

[celest valve]

ep is kinda key because it like triples smite damage :p

[zinc phoenix]

Smite is dogshit

[nocturne dust]

still not fantastic damage

even with shriek on top

[zinc phoenix]

The run would have been faster and more efficient with trauma

[late wolf]

people play smite for damage? bruh

what do I have my surge staff for

[zinc phoenix]

You have to ass guard the smiter so hard or they just get deleted

Complete waste of everyone’s time

[celest valve]

killing the stuff that doesn't die in a few seconds to smite lol

[strong gulch]

smite is also good at getting the last tic of damage too

[nocturne dust]

The enemies are swiggity swooty coming for that booty

[late wolf]

see

all hail palpatine psyker

[thorn cedar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1h1d0ps/everything_i_know_about_smite_the_damage_sucks_or/

[late wolf]

smite + surge staff

[thorn cedar]

i tabled the damage here

[celest valve]

horde smite, you vaporize the horde in like seconds with EP smite and whatever warp damage boosts you have

then surge staff deletes super fast what's left

ok yeah 2s base for a groaner with EP i have everything I need :v

[patent mango]

ok well thats enough inferno for the next few months

[celest valve]

although i do agree smite is also useful as kind of a flex pick when you don't want to really focus on your blitz and instead want just a quick CC ability to zap off when needed because your staff is more important

[late wolf]

fr

[patent mango]

back to fgs builds

[celest valve]

but also if you're holding smite for like 12 seconds as smyker you're probably doing something wrong

[zinc phoenix]

Useless

Genuinely truly useless

[patent mango]

ep smite gamers are so rare

[celest valve]

https://tenor.com/vTs1yn6DWIo.gif

https://tenor.com/view/bye-bye-bye-goodbye-see-ya-gn-gif-4297369649887823386

[patent mango]

maybe most just find that boring

[zinc phoenix]

It spreads everything out making efficient dps from every other class harder, it lowers CDR for other classes that get it from crits/backshots and it does nothing to deal with the genuine run ruining threats of havoc

Nobody is losing to a horde

[patent mango]

me losing to 6 sedition groaners boss battle

[zinc phoenix]

Blessed sedition gamer 🙇‍♀️

[patent mango]

idek which diff sedition is btw

[zinc phoenix]

I did some sedition skull runs the other day, very chill

[strong gulch]

me but with ladders

[patent mango]

trueee

they never fixed those

[zinc phoenix]

Ok ladders are genuinely the actual game boss

[celest valve]

i miss life before havoc

[haughty star]

I like smite i just never use it on most of the builds I had it on aside from ressing and shit

[nocturne dust]

Eh, I'm enjoying not having to listen to the 'game is not difficult enough' people anymore

[haughty star]

So I replace with flayer

[marble crater]

What is wrong with ladders now?

[zinc phoenix]

I love it tbh

[celest valve]

ladders are one of the ways to yeet yourself into the void without being able to grab on

[haughty star]

They're still there they're just drowned out by force greatsword excitement and come back people asking what to run

[celest valve]

mostly it

[nocturne dust]

Good 🗿

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve seen some people for whom h40 genuinely isn’t hard enough and they can hard clutch it

[marble crater]

Can't say that ever happened to me, do people use ladders to get down?

[nocturne dust]

but can they hard solo it with 0% failure

[zinc phoenix]

Give it a couple months and yes

[marble crater]

But without mods?

[analog agate]

We don’t exactly argue with paradise. I think we agree there are faster ways to kill. But smite + shriek scales really well and is”safe”

[nocturne dust]

Well that sounds like it'll be hard enough for a couple months

[zinc phoenix]

Genuinely the level of play I’ve seen from some people in h40 is insane

Most are good enough to play with a team and maybe duo for a bit which is where I’m at

[nocturne dust]

I mean there's always going to be some godlike player that can beat everything with just a toothpick

[strong gulch]

I just a have skill issue with ladders. Walking by or trying to fight things and suddenly I'm climbing.

Ladders are grabby little fecks.

[zinc phoenix]

But holy cow

[nocturne dust]

I remember when somebody cleared Hades on that mode everyone thought impossible a while back

[zinc phoenix]

Some people just dance thru like nothing is there

[thorn cedar]

64 Heat Hades

[patent mango]

i think havoc is decent actually

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-epic-gamer-sweatyspeedrunner-gif-22461398

[haughty star]

I don't care what anyone says darktide is hard as hell

[patent mango]

its like ok

[haughty star]

Like i don't even enjoy sm2

[thorn cedar]

Everyone knew it was possible, but the odds of pulling it off were just incredibly unlikely

[haughty star]

Its legitimately not hard enough lol

[patent mango]

i just wish havoc build variety was real

[nocturne dust]

I think Havoc is cool as like... the start of something. I want it to be expanded on so that it encourages different metas depending on the modifiers. Some actual variety to play.

[zinc phoenix]

Who knew the Smurf fan service game would be trash??

Idk why they don’t just put anime girls into the smurfs and call it good

They’d make so much money

[haughty star]

To be fair I returned it after a hour and a half

[thorn cedar]

Peeps had seeded 64 heat runs to mitigate shitty RNG and succeeded, but doing an unseeded run, not getting fucked by RNG, and then also beating it, quite a feat

[nocturne dust]

Well, theoretically possible is kinda different from actually accomplished

[thorn cedar]

It just wasn't a fun prospect so nobody really wanted to do it.

[haughty star]

Yeah I don't like what it does to my psyker lol

Both staves that are good for it are my least favorite ways in general to play psyker

[nocturne dust]

I mean, fair.

[thorn cedar]

You could crush all the way to the last biome and the game would feed you a loss by putting the satyr sack in the third+ dungeon

And the only reason it got done was because Haelian put out a video explaining why it was unlikely to ever happen, and that person pulled it off in less than a week by pure chance and also skill. But mostly chance.

[nocturne dust]

man said 'bet'

[thorn cedar]

Like she mentioned her hands shaking repeatedly at how lucky she got and how seeing the satyr sack in the second dungeon felt like learning your cancer was in remission

[patent mango]

person who did it disrupted destiny

[nocturne dust]

Maybe the destiny disrupted was the difficulty we made along the way

[marble crater]

[analog agate]

They need to make the shooter modifier random too

[nocturne dust]

Yes, make a melee modifier to replace it

500% melee speed from enemies

[marble crater]

Movement speed for crushers

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

give crushers skateboards

[marble crater]

Crushers that rush at you like our ogryn charge would be horrifying

[zinc phoenix]

Too armored for that

[marble crater]

That's what makes it horrifying

[late sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1280454800751857706/1323758051358146692/For_the_last_time_its_SIGMAR..mov?ex=6775ad41&is=67745bc1&hm=042b4134f3460ff671a54851d8c659103e6af8a4fef97009f7301f85bce174ca&

They should make a modifier that makes armor actually meaningful

[nocturne dust]

The whole meta is armor pen

[late sapphire]

I've been greatly enjoying actually being rewarded for targeting small weakspots in helldivers

Shooting a charger up the pooter or a bile titan in the face and so on for a oneshot is very satisfying

In darktide i just have my uncanny up and poke poke poke

[nocturne dust]

I mean, we have that modifier

that's the funny head explode one

[late sapphire]

Barely

Also i want a rocket launcher

[nocturne dust]

Don't ask for more, it'll take 10 months to get released and be terribly implemented when it does get released 😭

[patent mango]

fatshark's next major update is gonna be 30 pages explaining why they're nerfing shredder autopistol again

[marble crater]

I'm okay with this, if that's what it takes to fix the crashes

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-of-egypt-sacrifices-must-be-made-pharaoh-seti-i-pharaoh-gif-16912373

[late sapphire]

It's shooting too fast so it's semi auto now

[patent mango]

they're removing shredder autopistol's ability to do dmg but it shreds armor off

[peak kelp]

how does empyric resolve work exactly?

[plucky flax]

The funny peril reduction.

[peak kelp]

-30% toughness replenished are we talking toughness coherency regen, toughness from kills, all sources of toughness replenishment?

[haughty star]

Its multiplicative

[buoyant maple]

x0.7 to all toughness gained from melee kills & talents

Coherency regen unaffected

[peak kelp]

so its dogshit?

[buoyant maple]

Pretty sure blessings that provide toughness also aren’t affected

[buoyant maple]

x0.6 peril generation

[zinc phoenix]

It is high risk high reward

[thorn cedar]

personally i think its shit but

[zinc phoenix]

Don’t get touched, boom forever

[thorn cedar]

mine is not the popular opinion

[peak kelp]

so if your feeling spicy then take it

[patent mango]

wont help my melee build so its not real

[median sorrel]

Do you think psykers shit themselves when they reach 100% peril

[thorn cedar]

they do, after their heads explode

[median sorrel]

Me reaching 100% peril several times a mission just so the others have to deal with the smell on the Valkyrie ride back home

[proper osprey]

New enemies ideas is the traitor versions of us that buffs enemies

They’ll be based off of what your current gear is and ability’s are

Knife zealot shroudfield

Smyker

[analog agate]

If you aren’t “good” then it is a nerf to you most likely. But you will see it constantly in our builds because we know how to negate the nerf to the best of our abilities

By good. I mean not getting hit. Soooo, all the knowledge and skill it takes for that to happen

[cold ivy]

or you can just be so squishy that it doesn't matter how much toughness you have, taking two hits is death - then there's no downside to the node

[marble crater]

I played EK without it for the first time yesterday and I was constantly almost blowing up, because I was so used to the lower peril generation

Meanwhile I felt not tankier

[analog agate]

If you don’t use it you have to use tranq to kinda balance it out. Meaning you have lost a point from the old builds before tree rework

[marble crater]

I would rather take no peril reduction than taking tranquility, it's not consistent so I can't get used to how much peril I generate. I don't like it

[marble crater]

Did you start to explode right as the dog jumped you?

[zinc phoenix]

Well at least it’d be an easy kill

[nocturne dust]

all talents, does not affect coherency regen and weapon blessings that provide toughness

[nocturne dust]

The opposite, it's really good and really strong

[proper osprey]

Real

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mc-mahon-entrance-wwe-power-walk-raw-gif-12313492

[patent mango]

rare smyker enemy that does 1 toughness dmg to players a second

[nocturne dust]

The reason ER is strong is because it reduces the amount of time you spend quelling by a lot, whereas the defense malus hurts but you can get around it by... not taking damage. Like, generally on higher difficulties you either have enough time to regenerate toughness to full regardless of ER or you're kind of screwed anyway. If you get hit multiple times at a point where ER would matter, you're generally going to die anyway at Auric/Havoc.

[nocturne dust]

'easy kill'
gets stunlocked through a wall

[marble crater]

You only die because you played bad, and not taking ER doesn't help with that

[nocturne dust]

True

[fiery stratus]

coherency regen is bad generally

because you lose it as soon as anything is 1 inch in melee range, which is much further than you'd expect

multiple meters

[nocturne dust]

Actually, no

That's completely incorrect

[fiery stratus]

unless they fixed it very recently

[nocturne dust]

It's the melee slot system, which is a lot more finicky than simple range

and generally you can empty your slots by just dodging a couple times

which is very easy to do

sooooooo

[marble crater]

What the hell is the melee slot system

[nocturne dust]

free regen from a couple dodges? Sounds like something Zealots would like

[nocturne dust]

Uuuuuhhhhhh there's a dev blog explaining it

[upper sun]

SO

[fiery stratus]

yeah but if you're using melee you're just continually in melee range

[upper sun]

games anyone???

or rather A game?

[plucky flax]

Nein.

Watch the firework bro.

[marble crater]

Maybe I can do one before the fireworks start

[plucky flax]

(I won't be doing that)

[nocturne dust]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1361210/view/4567301015217998130?l=english

I think it's this one?

[patent mango]

i think only a few guys can actually hit you at any given time

so you dont just get eated by 500 attacks

[marble crater]

My brother went up on a hill to film the city during it, much better view than looking out the window

[patent mango]

so if you stand in some specific spots only 1 guy can hit you lol

[fiery stratus]

You can only have so many enemies within your area

[thorn cedar]

customers tried to walk in as we were closing
"Sorry, we're locking up early tonight for New Years."
"Oh? What time do you close?"
"5:30."
"And what time is it now?"
" ... 5:30."

[fiery stratus]

because of the slot system

like directly around you

[thorn cedar]

not sure what they were expecting

[plucky flax]

German hill?

[marble crater]

So if I surround myself with poxwalkers, I'm immune to crushers

[marble crater]

Ja

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/L3v4jsX32TU

[plucky flax]

Mein handy

[marble crater]

Invite me

[thorn cedar]

three reasons really

[nocturne dust]

true but untrue

Again, it's fairly easy to empty your slots

[marble crater]

This guy, asks and then just starts a mission right away

[patent mango]

idk wouldnt the other spots just be blocked around you

[radiant frigate]

god i wish i was continually in melee range

[thorn cedar]

1. enemies will manouver around you realistically
2. enemies wont superstack themselves in one area and throw ten attacks in a single instance
3. gives them another vector to increase/decrease difficulty

[fiery stratus]

But riddle me this batman, wouldn't your slots just fill back up and you'll get very little regen?

[plucky flax]

We should block him.

[fiery stratus]

im sure theres a grace period

[thorn cedar]

they do and there is not really

[plucky flax]

Btw we still need to do hm.

Tomorrow if you're about.

[nocturne dust]

Not if you stack toughness regen

which is the point

[thorn cedar]

like in that video the first part is w/o a slot system, they all beeline straight at Saltzpyre and smash his shit in

[marble crater]

Yeah, we can block him from HM Twins when we do that

[radiant frigate]

xd

[fiery stratus]

Seems like getting regen from the tree is still better after all of those hoops

[marble crater]

That will show him

[thorn cedar]

and the second part, is harder to follow since it's fast

but if you wanna slow it down to do a play by play

you can see the slots change colours as they are occupied and picked

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it requires 0 talent points to do that sooooooooo

[fiery stratus]

its multiple slots on curios?

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but you don't really have great options on curios anyway

no +20% damage curio substat

😭

[thorn cedar]

still have much better than flat toughness regen

[sturdy reef]

LOL

[fiery stratus]

I guess, but its still little things that can help, and psyker for example gets most of its regen from quell which it does constantly anyway

[nocturne dust]

Eeeehhhhh

[thorn cedar]

are we like

[nocturne dust]

I mean Psyker gets tons of regen

[thorn cedar]

talking havocs though or just in general

cause in general, nah its shit

[nocturne dust]

In general

[fiery stratus]

Just talking about conherency regen in general

[thorn cedar]

at havocs, maybe? but probably still shit

[nocturne dust]

No, it's fine

[sturdy reef]

Id rather have more toughness

[nocturne dust]

It's not terrible, it's not the best thing ever either

[thorn cedar]

the only saving grace is that your base toughness is so comically low that getting 5 flat toughness regen from coherency is actually kinda big

[sturdy reef]

ya

[fiery stratus]

in havoc its decent because you're constantly holding hands, but in qp people really don't stay together a lot of times

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I stay with the pubs

Not hard to do, they so slow

[clear heath]

i'm glad someone agrees with me that curio perks are shit

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[sturdy reef]

they are mostly shit

[fiery stratus]

yeah but randoms scatter like rats a lot of times

[nocturne dust]

When cool curio perks?

[sturdy reef]

besides like stam regen and cdr

[fiery stratus]

or they just go down then you have to clutch anyway

[nocturne dust]

🤮

Stam regen on psyker? ew

[fiery stratus]

yeh psyker doesn't really need it unless you sprint and pushblock a fuckload

[sturdy reef]

what else ya gonna put lol

[fiery stratus]

yeah thats part of what hes saying

theres not that many good options

[cobalt forge]

SMITE IS GOOD

[fiery stratus]

bait used to be believable

[nocturne dust]

toughness, health, toughness regen, CDR

[cobalt forge]

And I’m tired of pretending it’s not

[proper osprey]

Noob

[nocturne dust]

probably some others I'm forgetting

[proper osprey]

I love stam regen

[nocturne dust]

You are noob if you use stam regen on psyker, yes

[fiery stratus]

just us cdr

[nocturne dust]

nobody sane says it's bad

[fiery stratus]

use(

[nocturne dust]

no

use dockets

and xp

[stuck sinew]

Psyker with the 7 morbillion base stamina regen

[nocturne dust]

and +curio

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1290821541277208638/1293615088523280416/attachment.gif

[nocturne dust]

[fiery stratus]

Most people don't say its bad, most people say the truth which is that it takes no skill and is lazy and boring

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/you-cant-kill-whats-already-dead-robert-martin-sheen-grace-and-frankie-cant-kill-it-gif-17582756

[sturdy reef]

I like stam regen on psyker

bar go up fast

me like

[proper osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749799445478244393/1265479387571159182/crackbert.gif

[nocturne dust]

Imagine using bar

KD moment

[cobalt forge]

I legitimately got said so the first time I asked for advice on this channel

Literally never used anything else

Goated ability

[fiery stratus]

tfw you cant clear a single group of groaners

[inland oasis]

Well your team should be

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmmmm, I think you either got unlucky with whoever decides to give you advice, or you're mistaken and they said it was 'bad' in a meta sense

[inland oasis]

Cc on an entire horde including specials, is clutch

[nocturne dust]

because it is bad in a meta sense

boring

badly designed

stupid

crappy blitz

[fiery stratus]

^

[nocturne dust]

[sturdy reef]

smite is a novelty

[fiery stratus]

70% of people who play this game and try psyker all have the smite revelation. Then some percentage realize how dumb and boring it really is

[nocturne dust]

It's novel sometimes

[patent mango]

smite is eep

[nocturne dust]

Playing trauma and inferno gets old 😔

[patent mango]

inferno got old in 1 match

[nocturne dust]

and I don't dare go off meta because-

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-hitting-markiplier-gif-23574136

[fiery stratus]

Everyone comes to psyker chat with the big discovery that smite is misunderstood. The reality is that its just incredibly boring to play with, boring for teammates too. Actively stops some people because you need to dodge to get profit for certain things.

[prime elk]

based

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/925799612248391781/929456197428457532/caption.gif

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

Can't hear you

Safe in my bubble

Everything burning

[fiery stratus]

purg is the same thing as the flamer but much better

but its also

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-sleep-goodnight-meme-goodnight-bro-minecraft-gif-21455562

[patent mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1065385117398347837/1184860556327403580/ezgif-5-4c8fe65eac.gif?ex=658d8262&is=657b0d62&hm=fd9d805a7d5e7c2f36311b12b5959380b24f5ef563714874eeec532d50cb02ce&

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lead-poisoning-wizard-rat-gif-400310151978348484

[dusty knot]

@near wyvern I am curious and interested in what build you recommend for using Bolt Pistol and Force Greatsword on? Wanting to replace my outdated Battery Gunker from the outdated Atheneum build

[plucky flax]

Why not keep using battery gunker?

@wind spruce

[thorn cedar]

battlefield 2042 92% off, so $6

damn thats

still way too much money

[cobalt forge]

Metachasing is the ruin of Gaming

I literally do not despite anyone less than a Metachaser

[nocturne dust]

Then don't use smite

Smite is bad in a meta sense because it's overpowered and ridiculously easy to use

[cobalt forge]

Using smite alone ain’t metachasing

[nocturne dust]

Eh, even alone it has stupid amounts of stagger

You're doing a lot with minimal effort

[cobalt forge]

I just love to keep the enemy still while my team shreds it apart

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

Play how you like

[upper sun]

smh always late

[cobalt forge]

A Good load out is aiding your team to win
A bad “Meta”
Load out is just going for kills

[nocturne dust]

Well no

Sometimes you help the team best by killing

[patent mango]

idk most people just find smite eepy

its not really about meta

[nocturne dust]

A bad meta is one that ruins the enjoyment of the game

and smite does that for everyone who isn't smiting

and sometimes the smiter as well

[near wyvern]

I haven't properly tested the break points for bolt pistol since the talent tree changed so I can't make a recommendation for that yet

[nocturne dust]

Just slap Bistol and FGS on standard gunker

e z

[upper sun]

Oh hey happy new year

[nocturne dust]

happy new year

[upper sun]

thats enough celebrating

back to the grind

[nocturne dust]

unless Clad doesn't accept my opinions

then very bad new year to them

[upper sun]

"very bad" would be an improvement 🚬

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-scare-gif-24401793

[dusty knot]

Ok thank you, so far I been able to run SC + DD Gun Psyker with Recon Lasgun as the Force Greatsword works great with it on the S Tier blessings. I wish I could figure out break points better lol

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

i didnt see it 😭

i partied enough last year for 2 years

its enough

still wanna play or eep?

[marble crater]

I had to play with a godlike psyker who killed everything, then he got netted, died and left

[marble crater]

Now I have to watch over my dog because fireworks

[upper sun]

oh god

[strong gulch]

If you're just straight up looking for a build, @plucky flax has a bistol FGS build with DD. No SG on it tho. Building peril fast with FGS special, shriek, and peril some more pretty fun.
https://youtu.be/DmuEgEBHzrY?si=4qQzdhCYSM-XMvPm

[upper sun]

i have <hypersexual name>

hes gonna kill everything then leave

[strong gulch]

Exact break points I haven't looked into.

[marble crater]

I have been listening to brown noise for the last few hours, apparently it helps to drown out the firework sounds for dogs

It's quite the experience

[strong gulch]

🥺

[marble crater]

You were fast with the melee maelstrom upload today

[upper sun]

why can dogs hit me mid chastise???

[strong gulch]

I was on it. 🫡

[strong gulch]

wtf aren't you supposed to be in a dodge during that?

[upper sun]

i thought so

[marble crater]

It was right at the start, so probably the dog already counted as landing on you before you pressed the button

[nocturne dust]

Do dodges make you immune to dogs?

[strong gulch]

Maybe it's like when you're supposed to be invisible but sometimes things target you anyways. Like target, not just hit.

[patent mango]

wher vid

i found actually nvm

[marble crater]

On her Youtube channel

[strong gulch]

he/they

[strong gulch]

https://youtu.be/Sb8qCRbpiRM

[patent mango]

i called som1 a fish at the start

i forgor that

[strong gulch]

Almost hit delete forever lmao

[marble crater]

Uh oh

I apologize

[strong gulch]

no worries

[nocturne dust]

Just refer to everyone as 'it'

Dehumanize everybody

[marble crater]

That works

[patent mango]

im too used to kill tracker combo on my screen

[plucky flax]

I use kill trackers but I move the pop up numbers tothe side to not be distracting.

Also cos I don't want to chase the number and play differently.

[patent mango]

number go up

[plucky flax]

HP go down.

[strong gulch]

I should set kill tracker up. I have installed but haven't "turned it on"

[plucky flax]

[patent mango]

[marble crater]

Kill tracker is the one that groups all the elite kills together as x 10 and such?

[patent mango]

idk what that ones called (killfeed improvements?)

kill tracker literally shows you a funny combo number of how many you kill in a short time

with effects on higher kill counts

[marble crater]

This isn't DMC you know

[patent mango]

not yet

[thorn cedar]

whatre the odds one of yall can get me the better hud mod file

[marble crater]

0%

[thorn cedar]

cause i am too fucken lazy to make a nexus account and my email got used by some dummy and banned

so i cannot be fucked

[marble crater]

[strange inlet]

Worb

[marble crater]

Worb

[patent mango]

Worb

[haughty star]

wORB

[nocturne dust]

Worb

[glossy ember]

happy new year fellow crazies

[marble crater]

Happy new year

[nocturne dust]

Happy new year

[haughty star]

So many bad psylots in pubs rn lol

[patent mango]

lmao

[patent mango]

dude that burster at 24:34 trolled me

[haughty star]

{i'm one of them }

[upper sun]

damn ok

[dusty knot]

@plucky flax thank you!

[plucky flax]

np

They should make melee scab only with havoc hp

Fun big sword time

[nocturne dust]

Trauma it is

[patent mango]

melee scab only but its actually melee only

[nocturne dust]

melee scab only is dumb and a lie

if it's melee scab only why are there 500 snipers, bombers, trappers, and flamers

[upper sun]

is 500 code for 5?

[nocturne dust]

[upper sun]

they mostly glitch out and spawn a gunner or two when someone dies and revives

[nocturne dust]

Excuse me

Have you ever played a melee only mael? It is not 5

[upper sun]

like 5 gunners and 4 snipers

chill out lil sibling

[nocturne dust]

In fact I bet I can go to my last melee only mael and find it has a minimum of 50 specials

[nocturne dust]

not a chance

[upper sun]

not all are snipers

[nocturne dust]

sure

some are trappers

bombers

flamers

[upper sun]

also scab melee says "waves of specialists"

[nocturne dust]

yes but it could be melee specialists

[upper sun]

"mostly scab" not entirely scab

[nocturne dust]

That is indeed why it says mostly

and it's dumb

Give me the true melee only experience

[upper sun]

chat replace this guys warm coco with ice tea

[hearty wolf]

Happy new year all!

[upper sun]

happy new year

[nocturne dust]

I have neither 😭

[hearty wolf]

My nap has been disturbed by 100000 fireworks

[upper sun]

deserved

[nocturne dust]

happy new year

[nocturne dust]

I deserve only the finest, so it's true because I have apple cider

[hearty wolf]

The melee only runs we were doing earlier were very fun

I'd give them another go

Or back to that Havoc 40 Gloriana which I'll cary

Carry

[nocturne dust]

I believe in you

[hearty wolf]

@strong gulch @radiant frigate summoning

[strong gulch]

I can in like 15 minutes.

[hearty wolf]

@upper sun Are you around then? We'll need a 4th

[strong gulch]

I'll take a look. I bet they were.

[upper sun]

its getting late 😭

[hearty wolf]

Ya. They make you immune to mutant grabs and trapper nets too

[nocturne dust]

No they don't

[hearty wolf]

It will only take 2h :(

[upper sun]

sorry 😭

[zinc phoenix]

I’ll be on in an hour 🤷‍♀️

[hearty wolf]

User issue 😭

The first time I heard it could dodge trapper nets

[nocturne dust]

Netcode issue, actually

[hearty wolf]

I dodged into a net

And I was on the floor

Surprised Pikachu face

[near wyvern]

Depends on what you define as most effective. I try to list all the different meta things for different roles in the Atheneum, so I consider the meta as a whole.

[strong gulch]

@hearty wolf I can get in game now. Y'all still building a group?

[hearty wolf]

Yep

Just making tea

[strong gulch]

Kk

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042858226770780230

We got 1 slot free afaik so any1 else can join

It's for Gloriana true survivor

[vernal temple]

true survivor on gloriana?

[hearty wolf]

ye

[upper sun]

anyone streaming this?

[vernal temple]

you sure picked the worst map to do it

[hearty wolf]

It's my fav map

it has got blight spreads too

[strong gulch]

best map
(i'm scared actually)

[upper sun]

can you guys do it in a party?

i wanna see this fail

[hearty wolf]

Sure

[upper sun]

jk jk sending good thoughts

[hearty wolf]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1162146315392786612

[vernal temple]

absolute mad lads, may Big E walk with you and shield you from danger

I despise gloriana on Havoc, it's bad enough on auric

specially the synchronisters part

[hearty wolf]

For sure, that is definitely a tough part

But we have pretty good synergy so those rooms don't tend to be too bad

[nocturne dust]

o lawd, I get to run smite

[vernal temple]

getting TS on groliana should be a special achievement on it's own. I got my TS on probably the easiest map imaginable, the archivum

[hearty wolf]

@patent mango @plucky flax either of you two for gloriana 40 ts?

@marble crater ?

@broken carbon

[upper sun]

@strong gulch HUH i just found out you get an effect if the DH is targetting you

[patent mango]

ok

[hearty wolf]

we just filled

fs

[patent mango]

lol

[hearty wolf]

If we fail, I'll lyk

[patent mango]

gaming

[mental grail]

real

knocked back a bottle of tequila and am gonna queue up a game

[broken carbon]

not home rn sorry

[mental grail]

real unsanctioned soykers play impaired

[cobalt forge]

I mean I consider completely stopping the whole enemy force to let my Allies shred them apart stronger than popping heads with lightning

[patent mango]

smite is just annoyig if spammed imo

wouldnt even be able to proc riposte.....

[thorn cedar]

smite is best when being done precisely

and best when you run into oh shit moments and you do hold it for a while

if you're constantly in oh shit mode

well

its you

[bold cape]

often times its actually slower because instead of enemies funneling into your sword you have to go to them so they end up more spread apart

[dense flume]

I've noticed smiters in my lowly bracket have upgraded from holding smite as often as possible to spam knocking everything over as often as possible lol

[haughty star]

lol why is this game like this

[upper sun]

good attempts all round

🫡

[deft stump]

Bigger range weaker effect trauma staff.

[dense flume]

I'm honestly looking forward to seeing it used "correctly". Then I'll know.... I've made it to the big leagues

[cobalt forge]

More like knocking I prefer stunning them still

[bold cape]

you’ll still meet smitkers with no idea what they’re doing in auric damn

[thorn cedar]

thats the thing

good smikers, youre not gonna notice it

theyll just quickly trip up a trapper or flamer or maybe stagger a couple ragers here and there

you should be pleasantly surprised when a long smite comes out

because you too wanted it

[deft stump]

Till dook goes down hard and it's actually needed and is missed when you realise you don't have one situations.

[haughty star]

it's kinda like a finger in the butt

[thorn cedar]

exactly

good smykers are exactly like a finger in the butt

my poor fucken brain

i keep swapping between an EP Assail, a Warp Unbound, and a non-Warp Unbound build

all different rules for when i can toss at 100% (or not)

i cant keep up lmao

[deft stump]

Just go boom randomly, is funni (When you aren't the psyker.).

[fathom adder]

Guessing some sloptuber made a video about it

[peak kelp]

Smite with EP does actual damage

[empty pivot]

smite ep w/ vent

[jovial juniper]

Scriers Smite

[peak kelp]

I wouldn't take it into havoc 40 but it's fun and easy to use

[thorn cedar]

i actually much prefer scriers smite

[peak kelp]

What's with the smite meme anyway

What's with the smite meme anyway

[thorn cedar]

just cause warp unbound means you can pretty much guarantee youll hold the smite down exactly how long you need to no matter what your perils is at when you need it

[peak kelp]

I don't get it that smite gets so much hate yet something like gunlugger ogryn is spoken with such reverence

[thorn cedar]

glugger isnt exactly revered, and the difference is that hes still doing his own work lol

[upper galleon]

Cause smite is bipolar if it’s on your team

At least a glugger will consistently kill what he’s aiming at

[thorn cedar]

hes not shooting into the air suppressing enemies with no or low damage and calling himself a support

[peak kelp]

I have never witnessed gunlugger spoken in a bad light

[upper galleon]

You havent been to zeal chat

[peak kelp]

It's pure fucking dogshit

[upper galleon]

Especially during the great fire bullet ripper era

Glugger is talked down about cause it got nerfed but it still does the same consistent thing

[thorn cedar]

its also expensive, so you cant really do it all game

[peak kelp]

It's functional in aurics like a plasma vet is functional in 40 havoc in that the entire team let's him take ammo

[strong gulch]

so uhh

[thorn cedar]

nothing stops a meme smyker from just back-to-back-to-back smyking for 20+ seconds over and over

[upper galleon]

Smite you can have a teammate that has a near infinite pause button or someone who just deletes the entire game in 8 seconds (with auric damn) and both suck to play with

Cause there isn’t really a cost to use smite

[peak kelp]

Again smite with ep seems to do real damage

I haven't run one with scoreboard tho

[upper galleon]

Yes and thats the issue

[peak kelp]

So it's too good or too bad?

[upper galleon]

Cause if it’s built properly it scales amazing with enemy difficulty

[upper galleon]

Yes

You dont know if you will have a smyker who holds down 3 poxwalkers and on monstros

Or you will have one that is actually good, knows when to swap, and will melt the entire game

And both make the game extremely boring (from an auric damn/auric maelstrom perspective)

[peak kelp]

Ok I get it

Both good and bad depending on the player

Or, both bad and bad

[upper galleon]

You can’t tell when the smyker is about to cancel their stun, melee enemies can be stunned far away from the actual melee, who will have to move out of position to hit the enemies they have to hope you keep stunning or else they will get surrounded

Mutants outside of mutant wave maelstrom is a big one to, they take like double or 3x melee damage let them charge in

[peak kelp]

I am a shit psyker. The only build I can comfortably take into aurics is smite ep vent psyker

Maybe greatsword scriers gaze on a good day

[thorn cedar]

its very anemic gameplay

[broken carbon]

m2 + m1

exhilarating

[thorn cedar]

even the discussion about its damage to me is sort of a red herring because the damage is irrelevant

[peak kelp]

Lol

[thorn cedar]

when you have the capacity to completely lock down everything indefinitely

whether you are doing 1 or 1000 damage a second

doesnt matter

all of that shit is already out of the fight

youve already won

[peak kelp]

Sucks when you get surrounded out of position

And if it's so OP why is it so rare in high havoc

[thorn cedar]

cause its boring as shit

nobody for a second has thought "certainly this is a gamemode on which smite cannot be useful". it was already a foregone conclusion when Nurgle Blessing (stagger immune enemies) wasnt even a modifier

[analog agate]

Honestly. Most people don’t know how to use it. It also is slower to kill than regular good gameplay with other things. Plus, the stigma

[peak kelp]

Lol and stacking bubble, chorus, VOC, purg, 4 dueling swords isn't boring

[thorn cedar]

and yea, the stigma

oh thats boring too

but like, youre participating much more

on a relative scale

[upper galleon]

Havoc is it’s own thing

[upper galleon]

Yea basically

[peak kelp]

Wouldn't a discussion about meta, by default be about havoc 40

Due to its very existence

[upper galleon]

I tried to explain it on reddit and someone just went “well it can’t be too much or too little cause that doesn’t make sense”

[thorn cedar]

yes and no

[peak kelp]

Like maelstrom isn't meta anymore its just a "fun" game mode

[upper galleon]

Auric damn/ normal damn should be the gold and silver standard

Havoc is, well too limiting

[analog agate]

There is still a meta in aurics

[upper galleon]

It’s meta is very small and not much to talk about

[thorn cedar]

most peeps are hardstuck at about 25-30 havoc

and thats nothing to feel slighted about tbh

thats above auric

but also thats wrong of me to say, because most peeps dont even play auric

[peak kelp]

Yea after installing true level it appears to ke the vast majority don't touch aurics

[upper galleon]

Yea but the malice and heresy meta is “don’t be dumber than a rock, even shredder is viable”

[peak kelp]

So what is the baseline when discussing anything? Regular damnation? Auric?

[thorn cedar]

auric is probably the mental default for most peeps on the discord

[thorn cedar]

that looks fun

[patent mango]

is it ful

[strong gulch]

ye D:

[patent mango]

i c

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[sturdy reef]

now its not

[nocturne dust]

uuuuhhhh

😰

(it is)

[haughty star]

lol howya gonna compare smiteker to glugger

[strong gulch]

yeah already full D:

[haughty star]

glugger is hard as fuck

is anyone else locked out of havoc party finder?

[worthy wasp]

Dude, I hadn't realized how much of a punch the illisi could pack into mixed hordes

[haughty star]

yeah if it's on a melee build it's not terrible

plus it can self proc mm

[worthy wasp]

Those warp swings are nuts, and the toughness gen is insane

[peak kelp]

Havoc is temporarily disabled

[upper galleon]

havoc is not

disbaled anymore

#🚨service-updates

[hearty wolf]

disbaled

[haughty star]

it must be lol

i can't get into the party finder for it and i been playing auric mael all night

[strong gulch]

premades are working and we got a +1 from the party finder

[upper galleon]

yea im drain bamaged

so it's okay

[haughty star]

it is

[magic cipher]

Do you peeps run wildfire on fire trauma? Lot of decent perks one could take instead 🤔

[strong gulch]

Ye wildfire with fire trauma

[magic cipher]

Cool ty

[analog agate]

Havoc works with pubs. Did one earlier today.

[haughty star]

weird

i been doing maelstroms all night and it's just got a locked symbol by it

[magic cipher]

Should I put maniac and unyielding on my FGS if I mostly use it for mutants and bosses? Everything else gets trauma staffed lol

[safe orbit]

If the only thing you use it for is mutants and bosses, sure lol

[magic cipher]

Yeah pretty much lol, and dogs

[analog agate]

Check in psykanium if you need maniac on fgs

[broken carbon]

the stab should one shot mutants without maniac

[analog agate]

I routinely one shot them with it no maniac

[broken carbon]

yeah

[dusky crag]

hit e to clear tags

[magic cipher]

Maybe flak and unyielding then 🤔 I do often body shot them though when things get hectic

[haughty star]

omfg

[dusky crag]

enjoy

[zinc phoenix]

cruising to an easy win in a 30 when wife rushes in, throws baby in my arms and declares she is havin a poop attack

i then spend the next ten minutes trying to juggle the baby while still carrying with the headphones off

fucked up a dodge against an enemy i cant hear in the end event then shit goes south

wife turns up right as the loss screen shows up 😢

my gamer window was stolen by poop!

(for reference i do not poop during my time with the baby 😢

[past sparrow]

Is lingering Influence bugged at the moment ?

i have it but the Disrupt Fate still seems to last like 4s

[strong gulch]

Ui bug. Too many buffs and the icons drop off.