psyker-class

[analog agate]

Ew. Penetration of the soul

[magic cipher]

More toughness would be nice, I just really like kinetic deflection with a deflect force sword

[tepid current]

The other node is a nerf

[zinc phoenix]

i would dump 6 wc for a +15 toughness node personally

[tepid current]

You want to be at high peril

It takes ages to reach high perel with the other node

[zinc phoenix]

i would also ABSOLUTELY take empyric resolve in havoc

[analog agate]

It’s not if you are great at the game

[deft stump]

I just wish Strike is better so I can just BOOM BOOM them.

[zinc phoenix]

-85% quell speed in high havoc means not having ER on a staff build is a bad idea

[analog agate]

And by great I mean don’t get hit as much. Not saying you aren’t great or anything. The royal you

[tepid current]

It really isn't, just learn how to manage Peril

I have no issues, never blow up

But I reach max potential faster

[analog agate]

ER isn’t for safety

[nocturne dust]

ER is for damage

[tepid current]

What damage?

[analog agate]

It is for prolonged dmg at high peril

[nocturne dust]

It turns out when you manually quell, you don't do damage

[tepid current]

So know how to manage Peril lol, if you cast at 97% or lower, you don't blow up

[nocturne dust]

ER lets you manually quell less

[nocturne dust]

true

[tepid current]

You don't need to quell long

[nocturne dust]

now imagine getting 2 shots instead of 1

[tepid current]

Tap and it's enoiugh

[nocturne dust]

big bonus

yes

now imagine getting 2 shots instead of 1

[analog agate]

Plus. Atm you are literally taking a node that does nothing

[zinc phoenix]

i dont really like peril edging in high havoc so i dont

[tepid current]

It's nothing, you make it sound like i do 50% saying that

I'm doing like 99%

[analog agate]

Penetration is bugged. It does nothing

[zinc phoenix]

too many times ive run into situations where having more peril bandwidth is better than getting slightly more damage out on one cast

[tepid current]

I do know that

But still, the other node is a nerf

[analog agate]

Sigh. This is why Tanner is meh

[zinc phoenix]

just learn to manage toughness

[tepid current]

Less Perel generation also herts so bad, kills your tanking

Less Toughness*

[nocturne dust]

Oh no, not the toughness I already have plenty of

woe is me

[tepid current]

30% nerf is massive

[nocturne dust]

Eh, it's something

not saying it isn't

[tepid current]

Penetration of the Soul will easily be the best once it's fixed, it's already the best

[nocturne dust]

but regeneration isn't that important on the class with almost unlimited amounts of it

[tepid current]

It's not infinate, but 30% nerf is big

[nocturne dust]

a single staff blast will regen me to full with soulstealer

with or without ER

The nerf is nothing

and you should really be learning to dodge and slide better if it is actually coming into play

[tepid current]

I already do lol

[nocturne dust]

better

[tepid current]

Lol

[analog agate]

I get not wanting to take ER if you get hit a lot and can’t manage toughness well. That is why I don’t completely disagree. But here or high havoc people? Eh

[tepid current]

I'm more tanky, and I reach max damage faster

Win win

[nocturne dust]

but you have less attacks because you spend more time quelling

so you lose out on damage overall

[tepid current]

Not really

[nocturne dust]

and by quite a lot

[tepid current]

I do more damage faster

[nocturne dust]

nope

[tepid current]

So no difference really

[zinc phoenix]

you have slightly higher burst with warp rider but much less sustain

[tepid current]

Takes you nearlytwice as long to reach max damage

[zinc phoenix]

havoc tends to reward the sustain

[tepid current]

Sustain is managfeble

Easy

[zinc phoenix]

okie

[analog agate]

The only time it DOES take a long time to get to high peril with ER is if you couple it with tranq on inferno. Other staves have no problem easily hitting high peril fast

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but in that time you will have to quell multiple times whereas I quell not at all

More damage overall

[magic cipher]

Apart from including ER, what changes would you guys make? I'm guessing I should make space for soul stealer

[analog agate]

Also… I just assume we are talking about regular gameplay. Cause no way are we talking about more quelling is no biggy on high havox

[nocturne dust]

Warp Rider is only 20% at max, and it's really easy to get at least 10%

[zinc phoenix]

i would pretty much never take 6 warp charges

[nocturne dust]

true, it's even more drastic on Havoc

[zinc phoenix]

i would basically never take IFR over psychic vampire because i dont trust it

i would absolutely take perilous combustion

[nocturne dust]

IFR is neat on Inferno

[magic cipher]

Even for inferno?

[nocturne dust]

that's the only staff I take it on

[zinc phoenix]

i dont trust it

[analog agate]

I do on inferno… I can’t remember who it was? Deadvoid with the “believe” thing lol

[magic cipher]

Oh sorry I put the build in wrong, 2 secs

[zinc phoenix]

i'd also take empyric resolve in high havoc but not otherwise

with a good team the ER downside is negligible

[analog agate]

My build. I think… it has actually been a while since I did inferno on regular gameplay

[zinc phoenix]

with a bad one you need to be able to sustain yourself solo in very bad situations

[zinc phoenix]

your battle med choice was imo correct for high havoc

10% peril on kill goes a lot further there

[nocturne dust]

yeah, battle med in high havoc is not bad

[wanton iron]

for voidblast staff, 4 stacks of soulblaze or rending shockwave blessing?

[analog agate]

With what other blessing?

[zinc phoenix]

blaze nexus and flurry rending are the two common combos

[wanton iron]

for the sake of higher havoc, the 5-20% crit chance off peril but im thinking about changing that

[magic cipher]

Okay so swap out warp battery for soul stealer? 🙂

And take ER for high havoc

[zinc phoenix]

everything is tradeoffs and preferences

[wanton iron]

ER? im not a pysker main so, whats it stand for/the new name for soul stealer?

[nocturne dust]

Empyric Resolve

[analog agate]

I personally find rending/flurry meh on high havoc. It’s fine but still prefer nexus/blaze

[nocturne dust]

The best talent in the tree if you ignore all the better ones

[zinc phoenix]

i have enjoyed blaze/rending on trauma in 35+

its a weird combo, probably not good but i kinda like it

there is a lot of armor

but fire is also good

maybe both?

[nocturne dust]

Rending/Flurry is good because it's specifically not Blaze

because Blaze tends to steal the first stack from Inferno users which means no Blaze Away applies

[zinc phoenix]

yeah but its actually rare to find other psykers up there

i am usually only psyker or need to play book

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ I don't do pubs in Havoc

[zinc phoenix]

well you know me

no mods, no arranged teams

[nocturne dust]

ew

[zinc phoenix]

and no weird glitchy stuff

[magic cipher]

Is kinetic deflection needed in havoc?

[nocturne dust]

mods are the only thing keeping me sane from all the DCs and bugs 🙏

[analog agate]

No

[wanton iron]

glitchy stuff? havocs too chaotic for me to notice anyone doing glitches

[analog agate]

But it is nice for revives

[zinc phoenix]

it makes life easier

if you dont take it take a stam curio and prioritize stam regen

[nocturne dust]

No, but if you utilize it properly it can be very, very, very, very, very, very nice

[magic cipher]

Think I'll keep it for face tanking bosses and rezzes then

[analog agate]

Some people are too pure for animation canceling

[nocturne dust]

You mean too lazy

[zinc phoenix]

yeah i dont like doing it

[nocturne dust]

Like me

[zinc phoenix]

they made the animations pretty i want to see em

[analog agate]

You just don’t wanna wear down your R key

[nocturne dust]

I am sloth, I am laze, I am that which does not provide effort

[zinc phoenix]

my S and D keys are worn down to hell

idk why

[wanton iron]

thats why you buy a cheap, expendable keyboard you can use instead of your actual laptop/pc keyboard

[analog agate]

Wooting has been going on heavy heavy use for 1.5-2 years now

Still good

[magic cipher]

Warp bettery vs soul stealer is a tough choice 🥲 Tempted to keep warp battery since bubble toughness regen and people giving yellow toughness

[deft stump]

It's already nice if you aren't first down in most situations. Anything that cannot outright nuke your toughness or 1 bonk you, you can shrug off.

[nocturne dust]

My keyboard old

[deft stump]

Facetanking only works for DH, lul.

[zinc phoenix]

you can tank the others too

just gotta look out for the tells that theyre gonna do a major attack

[deft stump]

Yes, but if you get hit, broken insta, lul.

DH is basically, hold block, face DH.

[analog agate]

Not a sniper shot

[nocturne dust]

It's useful for preventing situations where you would get bonked rapidly tho

[deft stump]

Glare at team to attack better.

[nocturne dust]

It's also useful for regening dodges

[zinc phoenix]

the most dangerous thing that you want KD for is rager blobs

you can just chill and wait for rescue

[deft stump]

Still can't get my 900 damage blocked in 10 secs.

[zinc phoenix]

i also have a sword of cowardice for h40 with ER/trauma

it is a block eff/stam/deflector deimos

and i run a +3 stam token

with 3x stam regen

i can block basically forever

[nocturne dust]

also blocking is faster than dodging

[magic cipher]

Wonder jf you could do that by walking into a pack of gunners with deflector

[nocturne dust]

so it's very useful for preventing backstab damage

gives you more wiggle room when you hear the sound cue

[deft stump]

IDK, if I'm in auric as psyker, I rather just blow everything up asap.

[zinc phoenix]

yes

but

if you really want to go hard with blocking psyker is not the one

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/0jd_cVHxR3E

[deft stump]

Funny thing is, the FGS is better at the funni blocks.

[nocturne dust]

It's also good for funny meme parry

[zinc phoenix]

but also slower move speed

move speed > slightly better blocking for the sword of cowardice

[deft stump]

I know, is why I keep saying. Claw is funni parry special memes.

Kinda bad otherwise.

[nocturne dust]

But yeah, KD has a lot of uses

but you do need to actually try and take advantage of it if you have it

you can't just expect it to help if you never block

[deft stump]

I know.

[analog agate]

Which is why I ended up dropping it in regular gameplay lol

[nocturne dust]

I take it in all modes

[magic cipher]

This will likely be my havoc inferno setup then

[nocturne dust]

It's not necessarily useful, but if it does come up it's a lifesaver and nothing less

[deft stump]

Oh, I still don't get how I failed to get 900 after going from 30% peril to 97% peril blocking a dookshow and having to emergency vent ulti.

[lethal delta]

wait... blocking has more uses than just chaining into push attack?

[nocturne dust]

It scales off your stamina

[zinc phoenix]

look at this. i also have a +3 stam token and 3x block eff. this thing can right click block multiple reapers 😂

[nocturne dust]

so if you have low max stamina, it gens a lot of peril

[deft stump]

I have 14 bars... And too much block effi.

[nocturne dust]

Wat, were you blocking an overhead?

[deft stump]

No.

Just too much normal shit and ragers.

[nocturne dust]

Uh

[zinc phoenix]

it actually works really good in high havoc because you can just not care about being shot

[nocturne dust]

With a single stam curio you should be able to block that forever

[deft stump]

Why I am confuse how I even hit 97%.

[zinc phoenix]

because you arent gonna stam break from mere gunners

[nocturne dust]

Idk, maybe you stacked too much stamina and there was an integer underflow somewhere

"Not enough peril gen, set it to max"
- Fatshark or something

[deft stump]

XD

[magic cipher]

Was gonna ask, is the combat knife a good pairing with trauma staff? I like the FGS with it a lot but speed would be nice lol

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not bad

I think ds is probably a better pick tho

BC you can’t juice the knife up with the crits it wants on left side and you’re not likely to go trauma on right side

[analog agate]

Knife is good

Mk6

[magic cipher]

Awesome thanks, I'll try it and see how it feels 🙂

[zinc phoenix]

Ds4 and ds2 give you very similar mobility while also giving solid performance against the stuff you want to poke

[patent jacinth]

mk5 lets you zoom

[zinc phoenix]

Mk5 is very dangerous around ledges

[deft stump]

Also, inf dodges to go with your near inf blocks if you go that route.

[zinc phoenix]

Dodge once and straight into space

[patent jacinth]

This is an issue of skill

[analog agate]

Well, ds is the meta after all haha. It is better than the knife. Mk6 is still good. For the life of me I can’t get the push attack to actually happen consistently though

[magic cipher]

How's the single target damage on the knifes? I like pulling the melee weapon out for mutants and bosses

[nocturne dust]

I mean... not really

[deft stump]

Look, it's like the knoife. You get used to flying off safe and unsafe bridges and pathways.

[zinc phoenix]

If you can play thru clandestina Gloriana’s first area without ledging yourself with ds5 you have truly reached the apex of skill

[patent jacinth]

Jokes on you

I already have

[zinc phoenix]

🙇‍♀️

[analog agate]

For bosses good cause you will put Flesh Tearer on it. Muties? Eh, not thhatt good

[deft stump]

Chargers take too much.

[magic cipher]

Thanks 😁

[deft stump]

You can still kill them but...

[nocturne dust]

Like, it's only a matter of skill in which you limit the dodging by not having to dodge near ledges, but that's still a negative to the weapon

[zinc phoenix]

The bigger issue with the ds5 is that the heavies are practically impossible to land because the hitbox is a hairs width

[nocturne dust]

Like, damage mattering is also a matter of skill, technically

[zinc phoenix]

So many times I literally could not hit something in front of my face with those ds5 heavy slashes 😂

[nocturne dust]

is it the one that overheads?

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah

I swear it has a close in dead zone

[nocturne dust]

Those are kinda funky.

[zinc phoenix]

The thunder hammers also have a close in dead zone where you can’t actually hit something if it is practically on top of you

[nocturne dust]

Thunder hammer should have more range

give it FGS range

[zinc phoenix]

Not a bad shout

[magic cipher]

Thunder hammer should also give a jetpack

Space marine treatment

[analog agate]

I think TH is in a good place. Not meta but in the middle of the pack. Still with best boss dmg

[nocturne dust]

I mean, considering what's at the bottom of the pack, I don't think middle is a good place to be.

[deft stump]

Naw, it needs boost hammer things.

[analog agate]

I am probably undervaluing it too. Taking a look at Zealot weapons.

Higher than middle

[deft stump]

Err... if you know God Eater.

[nocturne dust]

Eviscerator, Relic blade, Combat Axe, Knife, Dueling Sword, Crusher would all be definably better, no?

[deft stump]

To be fair, I'm a biting edge main so...

[analog agate]

Yep. But Dclaw, chain axe, chain swords, heavy sword, atrox axe, achylys axe “worse”

And shock maul

[nocturne dust]

well to be fair I'm categorizing them by family and not marks

but also

I think shock maul isn't bad at all, the only issue is it's just a baby crusher

[analog agate]

Me too. Achylys was the only mark I named

[deft stump]

Is a fun thing to be sure.

[analog agate]

Achlys*

[deft stump]

Just, too risky in higher diffs.

For special.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, so that's like

middle of the pack

[deft stump]

And the normals rely on a blessing that only works in normal gameplay.

A.k.a. not havoc.

[analog agate]

If you go by families yeah. But if you go by weapons I would say it is 18/31….

[deft stump]

Kinda wish it just staggered harder without it.

[analog agate]

Oh

It is the middle lmao

[nocturne dust]

[analog agate]

Fail

[deft stump]

[plucky flax]

Is havoc broken right now?

[wicked hornet]

yes

[plucky flax]

My assists

[wicked hornet]

yes and I'm so close

[zinc phoenix]

IKR

My pain is unending

I’m so close to that stupid title 😂

[deft stump]

Or I would poke about it lul.

[plucky flax]

I slept so good it's only 5:40 now and I'm up

No jet lag

[deft stump]

See, just crash and be good next day.

Always works.

Also, servers are unstable so only auric damns tbh.

I did not get my rewards thanks to end run DCs.

[plucky flax]

Fs hamsters running the servers are also off

[deft stump]

They ko.

Starving.

Janitors also on holiday.

So no food.

Thus servers running on min.

Poor creatures though.

[obtuse bluff]

how do effects from soulblaze trigger if there are multiple psykers runing soulblaze builds?

will it apply to only one or both players?

[deft stump]

From what I know, all psykers roll for it.

10% chance for warp charge.

If you mean damage.

First one to apply owns it.

[obtuse bluff]

I thought I read somewhere that when calculating all additional stacks end up getting countedd towartds whoever applied the first stack so it made me concerened that only the first person applying the damage could benifit from the triggers

[deft stump]

Rest just adds stacks.

But the warp charges thing is all psykers with it rolls the 10% from what I heard.

[obtuse bluff]

so as long as someone with soulblaze dies then all psykers ccan benifit from those effects?

[deft stump]

If they have that specific talent node.

[obtuse bluff]

okay, cool, thank you

[deft stump]

They roll 4% if they own the stack or the owner is next to them if they go the other.

[nocturne dust]

(If the soulblaze kills on souldrinker)

(although Souldrinker works 10-20% of the time anyway because Fatshark coding)

(as long as the target has soulblaze)

(in fire reborn potentially works the same way but nobody has tested it because it's really hard and really boring to do)

[nocturne dust]

This is true of benefits and buffs, such as blessing and perks, but talents that work on a soulblaze kill (however Fatshark is defining that) don't care about ownership

So, for example, Blaze Away, Inferno's Blessing, only applies to the stacks of a target if the wielder of Inferno gets the first stack

but Souldrinker will give everyone with the talent toughness when a target dies from soulblaze

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna play some with EU UnsancitonedPsyker?

And a very laggy Karien.

[wicked hornet]

I play on NA East so I would lag lol

[plucky flax]

NA east to EU is not bad.

100~130 ping

[wicked hornet]

I can try. I've never joined anyone before

[plucky flax]

Come I'll carry (not )

[split lance]

No

They wanna play with Unsanctioned Harold

[plucky flax]

Yes the legend

[nocturne dust]

the myth, the man

[plucky flax]

Did you get tru survivor?

[bold cape]

lets not be too generous here

[strong gulch]

no true survivor yet

[pliant coral]

What's the horde clear attack pattern on the DS4? Is it just light attack spam?

[hardy delta]

lmb-lmb-lmb...

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Add in some dodging and pushing too.

Though managing hordes with DS4 is mostly a gunker thing and that usually indicates assail.

So toss out a couple assails between light attacks.

[hardy delta]

yes

thats

right

[nocturne dust]

I did

Finally didn't DC long enough to get a good match in

But tren and Potato weren't there 😔

And I haven't even seen @lethal lagoon

in days

[lethal lagoon]

Got addicted to rivals

[pliant coral]

ok ty

[nocturne dust]

Imagine getting addicted to Counterstrike League of Legends Overwatch Marvel Rivals

Real psykers get addicted to Force Greatsword

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1321371717599367198/Greatsword_Elmo.gif

[plucky flax]

Rivals is overwatch but marvels?

[bold cape]

pretty neat game but like all pvp games i got a bit bored of it after a while

[inland ice]

its legitimately the best feeling weapon i have used since bret longsword

in my opinion

everything is just right

[hearty wolf]

Can attempt of later today if you want

~12h

[strong gulch]

I'll probably be asleep by then, but I think havocs are canceled right now.

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah.

And 3rd person

[lethal lagoon]

My main is a mage

Tren's main is a nude mod.

[hearty wolf]

Oh right I forgot that. I guess that's it, sorry. No title for you. EVER

[plucky flax]

I am back I can help.

Oh yeah havcos are dead atm.

And you get error after every maelstrom.

Veri cool game.

But I can at least appreciate fast internet again I am so OP

[deft stump]

I get to panic mode the game again, yes.

[bold cape]

as a fellow bret ls enjoyer
i feel the exact same way about the mk2 relic blade

[inland ice]

i like relic blade too but fgs just tickles my pickle

[bold cape]

fgs is awesome
but the way the different lights and heavies chain together on the relic remind me a lot of the bret, and even some of the animations look very close to it
also literal dopamine drip on the uppercut and running stab

[worthy wasp]

Relic Blade -> Charge to Kill
FGS -> Kill to Charge

Primary reason why I prefer FGS

If that makes sense

[bold cape]

it’s less of a charge and more a funny mulch mode

also i very much like how the unpowered state isn’t totally useless like the vets psword
and the mechanic itself is much more interactive and thought provoking

if the fgs had the relic’s moveset it’d literally be just like playing grail knight again

[worthy wasp]

You cant really generate a ton of peril with it unless you got micros or mad button pressing skills (FGS) on a non-Seers build

[plucky flax]

I use relic sword mk10 for ease of use Xd

Just spam light.

[worthy wasp]

Which sucks because many of psykers nodes want you to have high levels of peril

[plucky flax]

I can't hit head with the upper cut on mk2 it's too weird.

[strong gulch]

U right. I wouldn't wear it anyways.

[nocturne dust]

imo it lacks speed

Lemme be speeeeeeeeed

[strong gulch]

When havoc are back we can crab our way to the title I won't even use.

[nocturne dust]

Smite gameplay let's gooooooo

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1316741685249708082/Smite_Elmo.gif

[inland ice]

I can see that

thats why i use sigmas gaze tho

[nocturne dust]

scrier's isn't enough speed

More

[strong gulch]

speaking of smite. Just had a baby smiter smite everything all of the time and go down multiple times.

[nocturne dust]

More speed

[nocturne dust]

me

[inland ice]

how do ppl find this an attractive playstyle

[nocturne dust]

winning is fun

[strong gulch]

Did you also have a gun and an axe with bubble?

[nocturne dust]

no but I could

[inland ice]

Noobs playing gunker are so based

[strong gulch]

I mean I get it on some level. It looks cool and getting dumpstered repeatedly sucks so put smite... that person got dumptered anyways.

[nocturne dust]

Lies

[strong gulch]

BUT even more so, if this is ur favorite game and you are having a bad brain day, having something less compicated is nice.

I don't like it tho.

I have purg for low brain effort.

[hearty wolf]

The only problem with smite is how impactful it is to other people.

[strong gulch]

yeah

[hearty wolf]

But that's why I used more complicated weapons at least. I'll have something else to focus on

I also can't see other Psykers peril so I have 0 clue when all the cc is about to disappear

[fathom adder]

If you feel like a brainlet better play something else, psyker is always making me think "I'm not using my ult enough, I'm not spending enough time at high peril, I'm not taking proper advantage of Warp Unbound, I have to run Lingering Cope because I'm not killing my DD targets fast enough because my aim sucks" etc

[nocturne dust]

One of my mods adds a peril icon for that

[strong gulch]

If I didn't have assail that last map, I might have actually been frustrated but also I get someone just wanting to play that.

[nocturne dust]

on the little player icon area with their stats

[hearty wolf]

I used to think Psyker was more complicated because of peril management and the like

[nocturne dust]

in fact it might be numeric ui, unsure

[hearty wolf]

Then I played Psyker

[strong gulch]

Yeah it does. I still don't pay attetnion to it lmao

[nocturne dust]

Lol

[hearty wolf]

Smite = 1 button
Assail press lots of 1 button
Purgatus, you can even use 1 button and it works

Ds4

[strong gulch]

I personally thing managing ammo is more complicated and anxiety inducing because of looking in boxes and accidentally hoovering up ammo.

[nocturne dust]

Still more interesting than the other classes

[fathom adder]

I mean yeah, if you use those builds

[hearty wolf]

Psyker is so stupidly strong, it's actually easy. I thought peril was a mechanic to introduce difficulty but that's far from the case. It's more like an attempted cap to stop Psyker being busted to all shit

[nocturne dust]

(completely unbiased psyker opinion)

[hearty wolf]

I do still think it's more interesting than other classes for sure.

Most classes have some bullshit talents that are kind of absurd

[wind spruce]

Psyker best class

[hearty wolf]

Zealot chorus for example is just. Kind of ridiculous.

[nocturne dust]

I think that's unfair, Psyker's difficulty curve is mainly in staying alive rather than dealing damage

[fathom adder]

What classes are more complicated than Psyker?

DS4
Was given to Zealot and Vet to be overpowered with too. Spam That Heavy, We're All Ogryns Now

[hearty wolf]

That's a perfect assessment, yeah.

[nocturne dust]

and to be fair, for most of the game's audience which is casual, psyker is a pain

[hearty wolf]

Agree

[bold cape]

psyker is definitely the strongest class and it scales infinitely with difficulty

[hearty wolf]

But it also depends on your playstyle

If you're more defensive, you're more likely to be better at Psyker

If you're more aggressive, Zealot caters better

[wind spruce]

That's why I play super aggressive

[fathom adder]

Psyker can even be a pseudo-Zealot with SG/DD

[hearty wolf]

Psyker has more things to think about since they can't press F and be free from all pain

[wind spruce]

So I can be bad at psyker

[hearty wolf]

I was running that with FGS on scab only melee

Since the special has infinite cleave

Wait

[nocturne dust]

Discount Zealot

[wind spruce]

You don't even need the cleave

[hearty wolf]

@buoyant maple hi, FGS special on the actual blade swing. Is that "infinite cleave" or is that ones that have a special property (special property right?)

[nocturne dust]

"Look what they need to mimic a fraction of Duelist's power"

[wind spruce]

Easy to get top damage on mostly melee just using DS w/ a gunker build

[nocturne dust]

infinite cleave

[fathom adder]

Yep.

High Havoc throwing so much Hit Mass that melee can't horde clear anymore?

Well have you tried just fucking ignoring the system entirely?

[nocturne dust]

or wdym

is there a special property thing that is different from infinite cleave

[hearty wolf]

Yeah

Infinite cleave can be stopped by certain things. Iirc carapace

It's in Vets 2820471 page doc

[nocturne dust]

I think that's unfair because Havoc isn't balanced, period.

[hearty wolf]

So Ogryn shield h2

[bold cape]

ds4 is just straight up broken
like even before it got added to the other classes and psyker got melee talents
it was always op

[hearty wolf]

And something else

[maiden oracle]

Wouldn’t psyker have issues with horde clear using it

[wind spruce]

Ryken said that a certain number of maulers stops the FGS special

[nocturne dust]

oh well, I don't think the warp attack is stopped by carapace

[maiden oracle]

Or do you just thug it out with assail

[nocturne dust]

So it has stupid cleave and not infinite cleave?

[fathom adder]

I feel like it's one of those "extreme difficulty" settings that more or less expects you to find workarounds than to "play the game as intended, just better" if that makes sense

[wind spruce]

Supposedly

[hearty wolf]

Ay but what I'm saying is the actual sword strike does ignore that rule. So you double dip with the damage. And it makes it VERY good at killing armoured packs. Suspiciously so.

But you only tend to get packs like that in scab only melee

[nocturne dust]

right

[hearty wolf]

(Mixed armour as opposed to just crusher spam)

[broken carbon]

depends on the cleave

flamers don’t

perfect strike doesn’t

but h2 on ogryn shield does

i can’t recall if illisi does

[nocturne dust]

Ogryns taking the L again

[broken carbon]

illisi isn’t infinite cleave

is it

i may be misremembering

[wind spruce]

It's not

[broken carbon]

i haven’t used it in forever

[hearty wolf]

Yeah this is what I'm talking about. Infinite cleave Vs weapons with special cleave properties

[broken carbon]

yah thought not

[buoyant maple]

“Infinite cleave” that also goes through carapace, has a fixed range where it ends

[nocturne dust]

fixed range of what

like the attack area?

[broken carbon]

where the projectile dissipates i’d guess

[nocturne dust]

this is for the melee part

[buoyant maple]

It dissipates after 28m

[nocturne dust]

the blade swing

not the projectile

[buoyant maple]

I mean the projectile

Oh u mean the swing

Lemme check

[hearty wolf]

Ye

[buoyant maple]

I think it’s infinite

And still goes through carapace

[hearty wolf]

I'm asking about the swing cos I'm sure I was hitting like 20 maulers at once but idk if that's cos I was aiming lower for the flak

[maiden oracle]

Does melee psyker use something else to deal with hordes when using ds or do they just keep swinging

[buoyant maple]

Yea it’s inf cleave

[hearty wolf]

Interesting

[broken carbon]

weaving assail into attacks, and just light spam

[nocturne dust]

DS is a weird pick for meleeker, most people prefer force swords, but generally just weave assails

[broken carbon]

yummers more infinite cleave weapons

[maiden oracle]

Ah so just zealot but with assail instead of fotf

[nocturne dust]

I love infinite cleave

[broken carbon]

i don’t

[maiden oracle]

What makes it a weird pick

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ People just find it boring and the damage buffs aren't super useful on a weapon that does absurd damage already

[radiant frigate]

not really main weapon material on psyker imo

since the horde clear is xd

[maiden oracle]

So it’s strange but it’s still good right

[nocturne dust]

I mean it's dueling sword

[fathom adder]

Can't deal with hordes well, and the typical melee psyker tree doesn't synergize with Inferno or Trauma staff that well

[maiden oracle]

True

[buoyant maple]

I can kind of get why it is and I don’t think it’s a big of a problem

[nocturne dust]

It's always good

[mental grail]

me waiting for a good mael to cycle through

[plucky flax]

huh

[mental grail]

christmas pub lobbies legit have me seeking god

[maiden oracle]

Does the infantry autogun pierce carapace when using gaze

[nocturne dust]

likely

[inland ice]

70 maulers

[mental grail]

I'm having to carry people in fucking malice

[nocturne dust]

lmao, sounds like infinite cleave to me

[mental grail]

legitimate unreal

[buoyant maple]

No

[mental grail]

Absolutely not

[maiden oracle]

Ah

[nocturne dust]

Psyker doesn't have great anti-carapace gun choices

[mental grail]

I tried w/ the agrip

does not work

[nocturne dust]

You've got Revolver and....

erm

uh

[mental grail]

your blitz lmao

[maiden oracle]

Wallahi

[nocturne dust]

Assail against carapace

[mental grail]

after that we get fuck all

[buoyant maple]

Revolver & voidstrike
EK to an extent

[maiden oracle]

I’ll just stick with fgs then I’ll leave ds to my zealot

[mental grail]

to my eternal shame I remember the days the assail update dropped and I was throwing shards at maulers

[nocturne dust]

gun

[buoyant maple]

Oh then Boltpistol maybe, idk

[hearty wolf]

Assail against carapace exdee? Do you use ds4 lights for carapace too :o

[mental grail]

No

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[mental grail]

Boltpistol is a solid meh vs cara

[buoyant maple]

I don’t even think about ranged weapon anti-carapace now tbh

[mental grail]

Not bad, not good

[hearty wolf]

Psyker with Devil's claw sounds good to me

[nocturne dust]

I can't hear you over this boltor

[mental grail]

I use melee or rupture for cara usually

when I run staff it's easier

[nocturne dust]

It's a choice

Not a good one

still Devil's Claw

and no ability to parry bullets 😔

[mental grail]

I refuse to parry ever again after playing sekiro

[nocturne dust]

and also overheads will still very easily get you the moment your parry gets consumed early

[mental grail]

From nowhere, I suddenly have a new blessing.

[nocturne dust]

Waiting for Force Claw that does good damage, parries bullets, blocks block breakers like a shield (including sniper)

Will definitely happen

[mental grail]

imagine force sword reflecting bullets if you time the block right

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

I wish

[buoyant maple]

You’re significantly likelier to catch a target cap for voidblast / inferno’s individual attack instances before that lmao

[nocturne dust]

😭

[mental grail]

Armored Core shields have a short activation window where they're very strong for like 1-3 seconds, before weakening. Could work like that.

[broken carbon]

sooo just better than normal claw in every way

[mental grail]

Yes.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, that's how parries work

[nocturne dust]

Yes.

Normal claw sucks.

[broken carbon]

frown

[broken carbon]

not really

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark plz.

[inland ice]

Titanfall gameplay

[broken carbon]

it’s not OP but it’s not terrible

[mental grail]

Yeah, but lets not tie it to Devils Claw 😭

[nocturne dust]

wtf is terrible to you

[buoyant maple]

DC sword could be cool if it did more than 67 damage to flak 2nd target

[broken carbon]

mk3 evis, shredder autopistol, dclaw mk1,

[inland ice]

Damage is stinky butt

[broken carbon]

frown

yeah

it needs a flak buff

[nocturne dust]

[fathom adder]

b-but muh parry!

[nocturne dust]

Oh hey look

Your list of terrible includes Dclaw

[broken carbon]

a single mark of dclaw

[inland ice]

Yawn

[broken carbon]

the dclaw mk4 is B-A tier imo

[nocturne dust]

I think your list of terrible is extremely short

[nocturne dust]

ew

no

not a chance

[broken carbon]

not many weapons are genuinely terrible

[nocturne dust]

I love Dclaw but it is not good

[mental grail]

What a blessed game. May the Omnissiah bless the 3D modeler that created the Stryder titan in the hallowed offices of Respawn Entertainment. Amen.

[mental grail]

Bruh.

What?

[nocturne dust]

I think that's just about the definition of terrible.

[buoyant maple]

What I’ve seen

Veteran main: we have very broken weapons and they need to be nerfed

Zealot main: our class is bad and almost everything needs to get buffed

Psyker main: our class is turbo broken and we believe it needs more buffs

[inland ice]

That shit is not A tier

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[broken carbon]

when i say terrible, i mean using it in higher difficulties is an actual handicap

[clear heath]

i bet some marks of those lasguns that no one uses are bad. idk no one uses them so i don't even remember them

[mental grail]

The higher diff you play, the list of weapons that become subpar increases significantly.

[buoyant maple]

Psyker chat is so unserious

[nocturne dust]

Well, Dclaw is absolutely a handicap compared to one of the better weapons so I'm not sure how that really works

[broken carbon]

zealot needs a couple of nerfs, but it’s mainly weapons, less so the class

also the dead talents need 2 be gone

[fathom adder]

Crystalline Will should have its own little branch, make Martyrdom Psyker real

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[broken carbon]

yeah

[inland ice]

Inflas?

[buoyant maple]

I unironically think club/chainaxe/evicerator need their cleave damage distribution cap removed, and duelling sword/knife need to have cleave damage distribution cap

[mental grail]

We need to buff trauma.

[fathom adder]

Yeah the "middle" Mk of most guns is bad

[broken carbon]

get this man a true

[nocturne dust]

[mental grail]

It's too weak.

[nocturne dust]

club?

[mental grail]

Maul

[hearty wolf]

I absolutely beg. Evis feels DOGSHIT with the cleave cap

[buoyant maple]

Worst melee in the game bar none

[hearty wolf]

I honestly wish I never knew about the damage cap on cleaves

[broken carbon]

wait chainaxe and club have damage caps?

by club

[fathom adder]

Of all the things that make Dueling Sword broken, surely it's not its cleave

[broken carbon]

do u mean ogryn

or crusher

[buoyant maple]

Chainaxe has 4
Club has 3

[buoyant maple]

Ogryn’s bully club

[broken carbon]

oh ogryn

[hearty wolf]

Club has THREE?

[broken carbon]

i shmee

[mental grail]

Oh

[hearty wolf]

Fucking THREE?

[broken carbon]

that’s awful lmfao

[buoyant maple]

Yes u cannot damage more than 3 enemies at a time with club

lol

[hearty wolf]

Man what the fuck

Rofl

[broken carbon]

yeah true

[hearty wolf]

Unviable for malice xd

[plucky flax]

Blazing spirits on staff still has 6 stacks cap btw. WHere's my 8 stacks cap?

Pls buff

[buoyant maple]

If u see any tier list that has bully clubs above the lowest tier possible u can immediately write that tier list off as complete bullshit

[mental grail]

Ogryn

Getting shafted by FS

Must be a day ending with "y"

[broken carbon]

the absolute kings of single target should be the branx pick and the thunder hammer

nothing else should be close

[hearty wolf]

Agree

T.hammer being ahead due to special activation time

[broken carbon]

yeah

slow heavy weapons should be rewarded with very high damage

[fathom adder]

you WILL spam heavy and you WILL have fun doing it

[broken carbon]

shouldn’t get outdamaged by a fucking toothpick that weighs 5 pounds and lets you dodge a mile

[nocturne dust]

I mean when we're serious we generally agree psyker is in a great place and we just want more of something like staves (and of course crystalline will buffs 🙏 )

[fathom adder]

Plus ancillary benefits of Uncanny affecting things like dots

[nocturne dust]

Martyr Psyker when

[inland ice]

5lbs?

[hearty wolf]

I just want a zealot greataxe

[buoyant maple]

Heavy atk needs finesse nerfed obv
I’m saying it can use extra nerfs to cleave to deny it of any semblance of horde clear

[inland ice]

Try 1lb

[broken carbon]

uncanny should get nerfed to 25% max, to be in line with opportunist

[fathom adder]

I just said that

[hearty wolf]

Heated Zealot axe

Special makes it red hot

+100% rending

[buoyant maple]

Nah, can use nerfs as a whole

Psyker kit scales way way way too well into density

[nocturne dust]

No.

I think your opinion is stupid.

[buoyant maple]

See this is why psyker chat is unserious lol

[mental grail]

Real honestly, we got such good gunker/meleeker buffs I forgot we're supposed to be space wizards.

[broken carbon]

they aren’t as open to criticism as the zealots are

[inland ice]

Isn't psyker supposed to be busted

[broken carbon]

wha

no?

[mental grail]

Yes.

[nocturne dust]

Yes.

[broken carbon]

the psyker mind truly is an enigma

[inland ice]

Literally fucking space wizard with warp powers

[fathom adder]

Space Wizard uses his powers to be better at melee than the melee specialist class. Just like the Dark Heresy RPG line

[summer prairie]

voidstrike still needs to have infinite cleave

[nocturne dust]

The tryhards in these chats place way too much value on damage potential. I don't think it would be good to follow their balance ideas.

[buoyant maple]

It’s just this

[broken carbon]

if you want to scale by lore, our psykers are already extremely overpowered

not to mention having some of the smartest ogryns ever seen,

or zealots being able to manifest a miracle

or vets just kinda existing

gameplay first

then lore

[maiden oracle]

what staffs let you get away without exploding if you hit 100% peril while charging

[broken carbon]

ogryn chat is just larpers and idiots

[nocturne dust]

none

perish

[inland ice]

MINOR miracle

[maiden oracle]

wallahi

[fathom adder]

How do you tell them apart

[broken carbon]

you don’t

that’s why i never go into ogryn chat

[buoyant maple]

I genuinely think half of ogryn’s problems can be blamed on ogryn players somehow thinking their weapon balance is fine and most of their weapons are good

[mental grail]

take crystalline will and, inshallah, you will prosper brother 🙏

[broken carbon]

still, a zealot, not even a sister, capable of doing that is an insane feat

[inland ice]

It's like showing a tweaker the Bible and telling him to repent. He's probably tweaking so hard he'll think you're an angel sent to punish him

[maiden oracle]

i tried asking for a build in ogyrn chat and literally 5 people came out of the bushes and just babbled at me before spamming ogryn emojis

[nocturne dust]

I mean Ogryn players don't complain enough

[broken carbon]

lmfao yeah probably

[nocturne dust]

need more bully ogryns to bully fatshark

[buoyant maple]

Like on the one hand you have Karsolas
On the other hand you have the 3 bully clubs

[fathom adder]

Seemed to be a lot of complaining around the last talent shuffle

[buoyant maple]

For an extreme comparison

[inland ice]

Moar rashun?

[mental grail]

I'd be on a watchlist atp if I was an ogryn main, idk how they do it

[broken carbon]

on the other hand you have anything that’s not karsolas or shield

[nocturne dust]

I saw more complaining about the complainers than I did actual complaining about it

[buoyant maple]

God forbid you tell them achlys twin stubber is bad

[hearty wolf]

Oh yeah when do we game later, I'll run Vet and get a feel for it for Havoc

[nocturne dust]

but funny haha glugger

[fathom adder]

Redditor Superiority Complex compels them to complain about complainers

[broken carbon]

gunlugger is the only build i genuinely despise playing with

[summer prairie]

creeping flames should at least have 6 stack cap

[broken carbon]

i’d rather a smite psyker than a gunlugger

[nocturne dust]

I mean

glugger is stupid and bad, yeah

[buoyant maple]

I wish for a day ogryn’s automatic weapons actually manage to kill elites in reasonable time without PBB active

[nocturne dust]

but boss deletion

[mental grail]

ogryn players finding the will to load up the game after another montly dose of ogryn nerfs

[buoyant maple]

I saw achlys twin stubber taking an unironic 20 shots to kill a scab rager (before they got carapace armor)

And I gave up on the entire weapon class in record time

[inland ice]

[nocturne dust]

Ogryns should just be stupid sturdy

[broken carbon]

they already are

40% toughness per heavy

[buoyant maple]

You can go test it rn it still takes like 20 headshots to kill a scab rager with achlys twin stubber

[nocturne dust]

like 'I took several overheads to the face and all I got was this lousy t-shirt' sturdy

[buoyant maple]

It’s laughably bad design

[fathom adder]

patch notes list a bunch of ogryn nerfs
if_those_kids_could_read_theyd_be_very_upset.jpg

[inland ice]

That's insane

[buoyant maple]

Use PBB or deal zero damage

[broken carbon]

or use kickback and win

[hearty wolf]

My friend was enjoying the dmr or whatever on Ogryn. He was matching my special kills with the Zarona by the end of the game

[mental grail]

Smykers—when above 70 IQ—are mostly just fucking annoying, gunlugger ogryns are detrimental to a certain extent.

[buoyant maple]

Kickback is actually a dumber plasma gun

[inland ice]

The bullets it fires are legit huge

[buoyant maple]

At least plasma cares about headshots

[nocturne dust]

Kickback is funny but so screwey

[broken carbon]

smite psykers i can just run ahead a bit and have faith they’ll get downed or disabled

[inland ice]

That physically makes no sense like most of the game

[nocturne dust]

Not a bullet

[broken carbon]

gunluggers i just despair watching them not know how to melee despite having a shield or pick

[fathom adder]

I feel like there was a huge concerted effort some time back to convince people that the Rumbler was actually very good and not in fact complete dogshit

[nocturne dust]

bullet-shaped canister of ogryn-sized pellets to spray

is my headcanon

[inland ice]

High speed projectiles

[broken carbon]

i want a thugshot

it was teased a while ago iirc

or at least mentioned somewhere

[inland ice]

Thug shaker

[nocturne dust]

Bonshot

[buoyant maple]

Ur not gonna believe this but exe boltgun veteran is quite literally Gunlugger 2.0 and they actually kill things without using ult

[mental grail]

I had to specify the Smykers intelligence for a reason. 💀

Some of our siblings couldn't pour water out of a boot if the instructions were written on the heel.

[broken carbon]

and it’s just a single enormous slug

from a rumble/kickback

[fathom adder]

Too much warp dust. Sad!

[broken carbon]

i forgot how dumb that build is

probably the easiest game i’ve ever played

[nocturne dust]

So you're saying vet needs more buffs and ogryn more nerfs? Got it

[broken carbon]

was that build

well

the easiest pub

[buoyant maple]

Ogryn would benefit a lot from actually good weapons

[nocturne dust]

My easiest pub was when I went to sedition to peruse the noobs and instead got a crack squad that I assume had the same idea

[celest valve]

heavy stubber tho

[buoyant maple]

Quite mid

[bold cape]

massive hunk of metal sharpened into a sword

[buoyant maple]

I don’t know who decided that the “stability” stat on them should only affect braced sway

Who thought that was a good idea like genuinely

No spread reduction, no recoil reduction

[inland ice]

The fat shark swedish circleyerk

[buoyant maple]

Achlys heavy stubber got that comical 0.5s salvo return delay

[nocturne dust]

I wonder if Fatshark even has someone in charge of balance

[fathom adder]

Ogryn just cannot be allowed to have a weapon that they can pull out quickly and shoot accurately. We can ill afford another Zarona!

[buoyant maple]

Longer deploy to fire time than I think almost every ogryn gun (which already are slow compared to normal guns)

And still lacks accuracy past 30m

[maiden oracle]

What is the best ogyrn build

[celest valve]

Id have to check the recoil to see if it's listed properly stat wise or even added at all.

the salvo delay probs intentional tho

[mental grail]

Big 9-10ft tall massive brute guy, and you give him a damn pickaxe as his only 2-handed weapon instead of a massive fucking hammer or battleaxe.

[buoyant maple]

Even if it affects recoil it’s doing far too little

[fathom adder]

From what I've seen, they get their "lead combat designer" or some similar title to do a balance pass once in a while

[mental grail]

Playing veteran.

[bold cape]

such missed opportunity

[fathom adder]

But this is Fatshark timescale we are talking about

[buoyant maple]

I cannot understand why the 2+ ton muscular dude has the highest recoil weapons in the game in the form of a burst fire shotgun and a semi auto machine gun

[mental grail]

💀💀

[inland ice]

Ogryns weigh 4000lbs?

[buoyant maple]

The krourk heavy stubber quite literally has like 3x the initial spread size in continuous fire

Cannot hit jack shit the moment you need to shoot more than 3 gunners

[celest valve]

also I will be sad if the heavy stubber has less recoil I like the thump

[bold cape]

1000-4000 iirc

[celest valve]

ok continuous fire doesn't exist for me tho

[buoyant maple]

High recoil kick is ok
Unpredictable recoil kick + large spread expansion that take away player agency in aiming is less ok

[inland ice]

I can believe 1000

[bold cape]

average prolly around 2

[split lance]

no

theyre about 1 ton

so

2000ish lbs

[bold cape]

so around 2

[mental grail]

Give the Ogryn a good multi-las, heavy bolters, maybe an autocannon for ranged cleave/cara.

[split lance]

4000lbs would be way too much

[mental grail]

For melee, hammers, axes, crude swords. Options are endless.

Ogryns would weigh half that at maximum.

[buoyant maple]

Krourk takes 3 shots to kill gunner/flamer
Gorgonum takes 2
Achlys takes 1~2
Realistically you’re gonna need to fire continuously with them for target rich environments
They don’t have charmed reload for reducing weapon downtime
They don’t have fast deploy speed
They reload quite slow
They have high spread expansion and unpredictable (side shifting) recoil for those scenarios

[fathom adder]

In before "GW ordered Fatshark not to give Ogryns accurate weapons because it's not in the lore"

[mental grail]

Average Ogryn I see weighing 850-1300lbs.

[fathom adder]

Boy I hate that excuse

[buoyant maple]

They can literally use lascannons in the lore

[mental grail]

Given 10-12ft height and massive bulk.

[celest valve]

I usually use achlys so.

[mental grail]

380-590KG

[celest valve]

It got the best thump.

[mental grail]

They more often use the multi-las.

They're listed with it in Dark Heresy even, IIRC.

But what GW wants, goes. Even if it isn't lore accurate.

[bold cape]

fuck gw
gameplay over lore

[mental grail]

Like, Ogryns can very easily use bolters, considering they're as strong as space marines. Yet, no bolters for big man.

[fathom adder]

There is a certain type of person that is always ready to jump in with the "Fatshark can't do X because GW told them they can't because it's not in the lore!"

Then when you point out that it is either literally in the lore, or perfectly justifiable given existing lore, they just say "who can truly know the ineffable plan of Games Workshop?"

[wind spruce]

my true level vs the teams

(inb4 i die the most)

[mental grail]

I mean, it gets over stated. But it's because GW can be weirdly intrusive for odd reasons.

They said no to the Sororitas romance option in Rogue Trader, but let you fully romance the Drukhari that wants to carve his name into your flesh.

[plucky flax]

Aww they are just babies

[mental grail]

"Games Workshop's ineffable plan" indeed.

[fathom adder]

As far as how much Ogryns weigh, I could easily see them being over 2000 lbs. A 1m cube of water weighs 2200 lbs and an Ogryn's torso alone seems to be of a similar volume (and full of denser things than water, like muscle and bones)

[mental grail]

I can see it.

I could up my weight scale

[bold cape]

you can’t enter a lesbian relationship with the sororitas???? unplayable game

[mental grail]

literally unplayable

[bold cape]

that genuinely upsets me though lmao
i got the game and saw her as a main party member and got excited
this is sad day

[mental grail]

I want my repressed ecclesiarchy yuri and I want it now 🗣️

[split lance]

Hot ngl

[bold cape]

if my crpg doesn’t have sesbian lex in it then i don’t want it

[split lance]

I thought what I said was cringe

But holy damn

You win

[bold cape]

tren

you are unloved

[mental grail]

💀

[split lance]

pls dont project in chat

projecting in chat

is WILD

[mental grail]

Yeah, I'm fine with the name carving, but he sat in my chair unauthorized, so he was obliterated.

[split lance]

fucking demolish him

[mental grail]

Knife play? Standard elf tomfoolery. Sitting on your throne? Intentional disrespect and challenge to authority, requires response.

[split lance]

deservees a touching

[bold cape]

asking me not to project? time for some self reflection buddy

[split lance]

if u never had a chick carve your name in their arm, are you really even living?

[split lance]

wdym? i stare at my reflection daily

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-hogan-flex-flexes-flexing-wwe-gif-13189000

[mental grail]

tren u are a drukhari in disguise

[bold cape]

checks out

[mental grail]

ive seen ur background

[split lance]

lmao

i got like 4 more

like

a week agao g

[mental grail]

diabolical work

but ok

💀

[split lance]

i built a temple

do you expect it to not be worshiped

smh smh

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[bold cape]

is blowing up on psyker one of your main tenets

[mental grail]

it's too early for u to be going this hard in the paint tren

[split lance]

is having the least impact in a game one of yours?

[bold cape]

is repeatedly throwing true survivor one of yours?

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/bb20-big-brother-bbscottie-fight-watching-gif-12962262

[split lance]

unironically

theres a skill cap you gotta hit to be able to make fun of me, and alyx u do not reach that cap

[hearty wolf]

Tren and Tanner collab soon

I can see it

[split lance]

NO

Im good at the game

[plucky flax]

Tanner is not bad player from the gameplay I've seen

He just thinks too much of himself

[bold cape]

sounds familiar

[split lance]

read my bio

absolute

[bold cape]

i thought we were bantering :(

ily tren

[mental grail]

I fear him

[bold cape]

ive said it before i dont mean any of the shit i say to you lmao

[split lance]

thats bc u know u dont reach the skill cap

[bold cape]

uh huh

[wind spruce]

Your ego has gotten so big since we played together tren hahaha

You seemed like such a sweet little boy

(Who was bad at darktide)

Power truly corrupts

[plucky flax]

He thinks he's unsanctionedpsyker but he's just unsanctionedharold

[split lance]

WRONG

you said "was"

im STILL bad

[wind spruce]

The was referred to the sweet little boy I thought you were

[split lance]

oh

in vc im nice

obviously

[wind spruce]

Not even good at English fml

[split lance]

shit talking in vc isnt as fun most the time

[split lance]

im trilingual

smh smh

[wind spruce]

It's true

[plucky flax]

Speak Mexican to me

[wind spruce]

You me and atlas just up in vc being innocent puppies

And deranged in here

[split lance]

te quierro mucho

[plucky flax]

Hablo espanol

[wind spruce]

Por que no los dos

Is all the Mexican I know

[bold cape]

i took 3 years of french
i literally don’t remember anything

[fathom adder]

Same, but those 3 years were decades ago for me, and I was at an impressionable age (every time the subject of French came up, my dad would rant about Quebec, and the attitude rubbed off on me) so I naturally didn't do well in the subject

[bold cape]

i originally wanted to learn german or italian
but i remember my friends at the time were taking french so i followed along
mistake, weren’t friends with them by the time the year was over but i had already done a year so i got hit with sunk cost and did the rest just for credits

probably why i dont remember anything lmao

[split lance]

Ye voy a tochar

[marble crater]

Should have learned German, smh

[upper sun]

not tru

[plucky flax]

My fav painter is Austrian with great facial hair

Ja ja

[bold cape]

ikr

[plucky flax]

Mein handy

[split lance]

ich liebe dich

[bold cape]

most of my non english friends are germans and swedes

[upper sun]

those are all the same

[marble crater]

Where have you been by the way?

[marble crater]

Perfectly normal sentence in Germany, not so much in English speaking countries

[plucky flax]

I call my phone handy

[marble crater]

It's the better term

[cold trellis]

Is perilous combustion worth it for a right side gun build?

[split lance]

marvel rivals

[cold trellis]

And are the 2 assail sub talents generally worth the points?

[upper sun]

know whats a better term

"ei"

[marble crater]

Ah of course

[upper sun]

i made the gravest of mistakes in germany

[marble crater]

Aye

[upper sun]

i went to an ice cream place and tried to order an omlette

because i thought eis meant eggs

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

makes sense no? ei egg eis eggs

NOPE

[wind spruce]

They'll win the third one, so yes

[cold trellis]

Lmao

[marble crater]

We will even be the good guys this time

[wind spruce]

The victors are always the good guys

That's how history works

[upper sun]

so tru so tru

[marble crater]

Sure, but even if we had won the second one, we would still be the bad guys
And in the first one everyone kinda sucked and not sucked the same amount

[upper sun]

i legally can not comment

[marble crater]

[wind spruce]

I cannot say any of the jokes I want to without getting banned

[stiff schooner]

I like force great sword

psyker melee ooouuuuhh

[upper sun]

i dont enjoy it tbh

[stiff schooner]

only use the mk 8

other one is kinda underwhelming

[upper sun]

theyre both good but idk i feel like the attack speed is kinda low

[stiff schooner]

mk8 only barely loses out on single target damage but that’s mostly negated by one push attack heavy

[upper sun]

and the push attacks are kinda slow

[stiff schooner]

true but I almost always take lightning speed so I never noticed

I’m running a build rn that’s just assail bubble and disrupt with the force great sword w/ the strength buff from high peril and it’s so mindless

[wind spruce]

Bruh

[stiff schooner]

bruh

[wind spruce]

Imagine having to push attack whenever you want to do a single target heavy

Ick

[stiff schooner]

Tbf that’s when I whip out the voidstrike staff

it’s fine when you’re fighting maulers or ragers though

[plucky flax]

@deft stump if you are still up we can get ASS now even though the map is kind of hard.

[marble crater]

Which map?

[plucky flax]

Silo cluster.

[marble crater]

Ew

[plucky flax]

The start and end event are hell.

[marble crater]

They are indeed

[strong gulch]

The end... I'm bad at it.

[marble crater]

Fun though

[plucky flax]

People don't want to do objective to get through the end fast.

Then slowly get withered down.

Specials and horde would just keep spawning and when shotgunners and ragers wave spawn on top of all that.