psyker-class

[zinc phoenix]

It feels way better than aurics for me

[deft stump]

The 40s I got pressured into is still, what the dook is even going on? Why is the first mob a crusher pack?

[upper sun]

because crushers

[deft stump]

Very tanky crushers.

[cold trellis]

Hey, pretty new to psyker. It‘s the last class I still need the penances for. What would a typical „assail weave“ build look like and with which weapons? Does assail weave just refer to spamming assail every now and then to maintain high peril for buffs?

[hearty wolf]

Laughs in relic blade

I wonder what would happen if I took carapace on it

[deft stump]

I just want crits. More crits more panic button.

More panic button, less running into a hole, maybe.

[marble crater]

Assail works nicely paired with a gun or voidstrike and then the right keystone. Assail weave is just throwing some shards every now and then while you melee to kill things and stay at high peril, yes

[deft stump]

No idea. I used the sword basically once and went back to evis.

[hearty wolf]

Criminal

[deft stump]

I mean, I like knife and ds4 for reasons.

[hearty wolf]

poke

[deft stump]

Poke poke poke.

Pokepokepokepokepoke.

Ahhhhhhhh mobian 21st ahhhhhhhhh.

[cold trellis]

Alright thx. How do you use sciers gaze properly? Do you vent while using it and try to keep it going or just activate and forget?

[deft stump]

Pokepokepokepokepokepokepoke.

They just don't die or I'm just lagging.

[marble crater]

I almost never use it, so I am the wrong person to ask about sciers

[cold trellis]

Ah ok, ty anyways!

[fringe garden]

I just read someone on Reddit say that Kinetic Deflection, Deflector, Block cost on curios and weapon will let you block snipers and overheads. That's... Not true, right..?

[hearty wolf]

There's sort of two ways to run it imo.

First is to try and stay in it forever, the other just do what you can to build stacks and hop in and out of it.

[marble crater]

Try to stay in sciers for as long as you can with talents or blessings that reduce your peril again, I guess

[deft stump]

It doesn't work.

[fringe garden]

I didn't think so. People on Reddit are goofy

[deft stump]

Trust me, I'm an idiot running +9 stam and block efficiency.

[hearty wolf]

That was some solid bait

[deft stump]

You can afk tank a DH though.

[fringe garden]

Yeah, that I know

[deft stump]

At least on heresy.

[marble crater]

Ogryn can tank a sniper shot with shield (it will still hit the people behind you though)

[zinc phoenix]

My experience with taking carapace on relic was that I liked it a lot, got overconfident after dueling a bunch of crushers and then got splatted 😂

[marble crater]

Classic zealot gameplay

[hearty wolf]

That's a mood.

I was eating shit because I was using rampage wrath, went back to cranial wrath and apparently I was a god

[deft stump]

I just panic and run off though.

[patent mango]

force greatswords leaked in twitter post???

[marble crater]

Fake zealot

[hearty wolf]

Did you forget to send this a couple weeks ago or

[marble crater]

[deft stump]

Well, is why I rather play boom vet. More dumb yes.

[wheat seal]

rly hard to find ppl with same assignment...

[marble crater]

Same assignment?

[fringe garden]

Man, the sheer amount of uninterrupted DPS you can sustain with Empyric Resolve and a DD setup with Voidstrike is glorious.

[zinc phoenix]

Don’t take a 15 but the other two are probably fine if you hand hold them

15 means they couldn’t meet the minimum bar of clearing an auric mael for the level skip

[deft stump]

Could still try LFG unless APAC. Ppl here somehow suck. Don't ask.

And you get like so few ppl too.

[zinc wedge]

The dump for the staff is warp resist right?

Also blessings for the voidblast?

[deft stump]

Always warp resist, unless strike, you can choose that or blast radius.

[marble crater]

Either Nexus and Blazing Spirit, or Flurry and Rending.
Blazing is generally better

[weary crane]

"Access violation"???

[zinc wedge]

The psyker athenium is confusing whys there 2 voidblasts

I'm not seeing any marks of it

[marble crater]

There are not, just different builds

But there is VoidBLAST and VoidSTRIKE staves

[zinc wedge]

Oh

I only got the voidblast

But what the fuck is fire trauma

Or flurry trauma

[marble crater]

This

[upper galleon]

fire voidblast

trauma is the old voidblast name

[marble crater]

The better name

Why not Voidtrauma staff

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker staves have some standard builds that everyone uses and that get referred to by standard names

[marble crater]

And Elektrosurge staff

[zinc wedge]

This shit so confusing

How can a human plasma gun be this complicated

[marble crater]

What's confusing still?

[zinc wedge]

The names

And what exactly peril does

Do I do more damage as peril goes up like plasma

[zinc phoenix]

Peril is a resource that the different psyker builds use in different ways

[deft stump]

Hrm, burny stuck, shocky stick, boomy stick, BOOMY stick.

[zinc phoenix]

It’s better to pick a particular psyker build and learn it than to try to learn the whole class in one go

[jovial juniper]

Do you have Warp Rider?

[marble crater]

I barely know her.

[zinc phoenix]

Like if you’re coming from vet I’d recommend doing a right side build with voidstrike

Lots of toys, lots of killing power, no special rules on how to use the staff just point click delete

[marble crater]

Peril is like plasma, if you reach 100% and gain more peril you explode

[zinc phoenix]

That’s not how plasma works

Plasma only booms you at 100 on right click

[deft stump]

Same general idea.

[marble crater]

I know it doesn't boom on left click, but it's an easy analogy.
Please don't kill me

[deft stump]

Don't do anything but vent then.

[zinc phoenix]

[deft stump]

It's Sienna style vent on plasma but free on Psyker.

So just vent unless edging hard.

[zinc phoenix]

Tbh I wish we didn’t passive vent

[marble crater]

Peril also doesn't boom you when you keep flaming or charging up

[deft stump]

Is when you left click on 100%.

[zinc phoenix]

But it can also boom you when you start doing something under 100

BB at 98 for example if you complete you will be dead

[deft stump]

Or do hedpop at 98%.

Unless crystalline will.

But you only get 1 chance with it.

[marble crater]

That's why you plan for this and have shriek ready

[zinc phoenix]

And that’s another thing: peril isn’t a penalty, it’s a resource

[deft stump]

Is both.

[zinc phoenix]

Banked toughness from quietude, soulfire from shriek, damage and TDR from it being high

[deft stump]

Is price of inf ammo, but can be built to be used for more damage and such.

[zinc phoenix]

Some blessings give you benefits for high peril like tranq or unstable

So there’s a lot of complexity to peril

Some builds are so peril greedy that you can perma 0 SG

[deft stump]

Is just edge play, but losing it means going down hard.

So ruined.

Flees.

[indigo thunder]

Siblings!
Which mark of the two-hander is better? And which stat is the dump: warp reistance or defences?

[marble crater]

Warp res and whichever moveset you like more

[zinc wedge]

Is there a build for a hybrid voidblast

I want to shoot fireball AND orbital strike

[marble crater]

Mk8 is better against hordes, mk6 is better for elites, but both can do both things well enjoy

[marble crater]

What do you mean with fireball?

[zinc wedge]

The primary fire of the voidblast

[deft stump]

You sure you aren't mixing strike and blast?

Cos strike feels more firebally.

[marble crater]

You can use the primary fire for attacking some lone enemies here and there, but the main reason to use voidblast is the big explosion on the ground that staggers everything and kills stuff

[deft stump]

Needs bigger AoE though.

[zinc wedge]

Which one let's me smite them with an orbital blast with secondary

[marble crater]

Blast/Trauma = explosion on the ground
Strike = shoot ball in a line

Both have the same primary attack

[zinc wedge]

I just lost a malice game because I got flung off by a poxbomber

[deft stump]

It happens.

If it's Gloriana, you new?

Cos pretty sure everyone has been flung off that one map at least once in their entire DT experience.

[plucky flax]

Can't be me.

[deft stump]

[marble crater]

Some people dodged off the ledge instead

[deft stump]

Oh, that's true.

[marble crater]

I try to hug the right side. Ideally I would ask the team to destroy all the barrels from far away first too

[formal harness]

Nah, I do not fall of the map. I just embrace the heights.

[deft stump]

[plucky flax]

No I'm just really good and never die ever. You wouldn't understand.

[deft stump]

[marble crater]

Never dying, you must be top 0,1% of players

Carry me through secret twins hard mode when you are back in EU

[plucky flax]

Wait you haven't got twins hm?

I did it yesterday with the most sus circumstances ever

Not me gone for 5 mins then came back and team were still fighting

[deft stump]

He can do it lagging and dcing like 3 times.

[marble crater]

I'm not even sure if I did twins normal mode. I didn't try to do it at the beginning and then after a few weeks nobody was playing it anymore so I didn't even try to get a group

[deft stump]

Totally wasn't carried by the others, yes.

[marble crater]

If things are going well enough lag is not that big of an issue, becomes an issue if you need to dodge a sniper and push a burster and also kill a trapper and then dodge a mutie

[deft stump]

Naw, lag so hard, 7 chargers failed to charge you.

They just run through you and do nothing. But another time crazy dodging and you still get grabbed 50 miles away.

360 ping experience btw

[plucky flax]

Yes you just smash dodge and nothing hit you. Then suddenly you die

[marble crater]

360 ping? Gross

[deft stump]

Is peak eu ping.

It gets better at 4am for me.

It's only 250 - 280~ then.

[marble crater]

Just move to EU, easy

[deft stump]

Is why I just went eu havoc to try for knoife pants.

Just play at 3am to 6 am. Is only 250 ping.

[marble crater]

Still gross

[deft stump]

Eh, I remember poorer internet days.

Anything outside SG is 380 ping.

Is also 30ping in SG.

Now 4 ping SG, unless Dooktide. Why 11ping?

Isn't servers in SG anyway???

I don't get it.

[marble crater]

SG is Singapore?

[magic cipher]

Was reading the Psyker Atheneum and came across this 🤔 I thought MK6 killed crushers faster? It feels like it does when I use it in the meat grinder. Also unsure about the stab attack they mention, I didn't get it after swapping/sprinting on either weapon

Also, what perks do you peeps take on the FGS? Antheneum recommends against Riposte, I was thinking Wrath with either Unstable Power or Shred?

[patent mango]

its preference that part is just kinda really silly

i just go wrath riposte myself

[magic cipher]

Awesome ty 👍 I actually really like how the MK8 feels but it is definitely a bit more fiddly vs crushers

[summer prairie]

maybe he is using the dps counter, which essentially doesn't account for the slower first hit

[marble crater]

They mean the mk6 stab is harder to access after doing these things, while mk8 stab is the follow up after the push attack

[deft stump]

Yeh.

I'm fine with lag though, just don't drag me to auric maelstrom unless you want panic attacks.

And tell me to maybe replace my stam with an extra wound or something.

[marble crater]

[magic cipher]

Makes sense, ty!

[upper sun]

its ok enough panic and then you wont panic anymore

[magic cipher]

Think I might be an MK8 guy lol

The push combo feels good vs crushers

[deft stump]

[upper sun]

its true

first time i got dragged into heresy i was SWEATING

[deft stump]

I get jump skipped into auric mael because vet mains decided it was funny and it was boosted grenades.

300 ping lag panic to heck.

[marble crater]

I still need to drag you into havoc later, haven't done havoc this week yet

[upper sun]

we failed 2 already

[marble crater]

Because you played without me

[deft stump]

I mean, is why malice is slack around.

[upper sun]

tru

[deft stump]

Heresy is more challenging?

[upper sun]

than malice yeah?

[deft stump]

Damnation be like, why did I do this to myself again?

[upper sun]

its fun once you're comfortable with it

[deft stump]

Oh right, I needed an assassination mission for heresy+, but game said dook you, no assassination on heresy for you.

[deft stump]

After I did it.

Oh, you did it on damnation?

Here, have 2 assassinations on heresy, enjoy.

.-.

[marble crater]

Taking smite but no Psy Aura hurts me

[deft stump]

I still need to do a damnation strike some day.

But eh.

[thorn cedar]

ye just need a link to share the build with someone

dont really need it tbh because the other guy has it

like genuinely no point trying to compete with a purga psyker for kills

also as much as i like PA, having to click on that -5% peril gen node to get to it causes me physical pain

[marble crater]

So what are they for? The right one mostly, maybe I will try some assail shenanigans

[marble crater]

How much longer are you online?

[thorn cedar]

that one is a work in progress cause i have not won a single H40 yet, but the group im playing with is also heavily experimenting

well, H40 with that build specifically

[wheat seal]

@near wyvern why in the build example you put 60 warp resist on stats and not on the weapons recommendation?

[marble crater]

Because he is human

[deft stump]

I am going on now, but GF wants to play and she kinda sorta hate VC with randoms.

[wheat seal]

so which one we take

[marble crater]

Which weapons? I just want to copy a good sciers build

[cold trellis]

Is wrath still needed on fgs if you go for the increased cleave node? Or would you rather go unstable power+shred then? For a gaze build

[thorn cedar]

FGS + MKII laspee

[marble crater]

I also hate VC with randoms, if you are still playing in a few hours I can help with the strike though

[deft stump]

Probs like in 2-3 hours.

[marble crater]

thanks

[celest valve]

note on the mk8 that they also have chained strikedown attacks, and strikedowns are better than the stabs if you cannot consistently hit weakspots

[thorn cedar]

cleave node is fine, wrath starts to become a much hotter commodity when you're pushing Havoc 30+ against Moebian 21st

[marble crater]

I use warp resistance as the dump stat and it's working perfectly fine

[deft stump]

She goes to bed then.

[celest valve]

stabs have a higher finesse modifier, which is why i (incorrectly) believed the mk6 had bad damage vs armor :v

[cold trellis]

Ah ok, so for regular gameplay like auric(+maelstrom) it wouldn‘t be that necessary?

[thorn cedar]

the MK8 has the stronger stabs though with the push attack, which is goofy but true

[marble crater]

Okay, will see if I am on then if not maybe another time

[thorn cedar]

yea just one or the other

[cold trellis]

Ah perfect, ty

[thorn cedar]

Cleave node also maths out after your +Strength effects

[celest valve]

also note that the H1 on the m8 is not a strikedown attack(or 'smite' in the code), but rather a linesman attack(horizontal horde clearing). It has low armor penetration, it's more designed for high elite damage to, say, ragers..

[thorn cedar]

so if the base cleave was 10, Unstable would push it to 12, and then the cleave node would make it 24

[celest valve]

correct. higher damage and can actually come out faster but the timing is fucky

[indigo thunder]

Perks and Blessings for two-hander?

[celest valve]

you basically have to hold the attack button on the push and releae it at the exact right moment about 0.6s off memory into the animation. Too early and you'll just go back into an idle animation, too late and you'll lose DPS.

[thorn cedar]

you dont have to be that committed to it, unless you really need the added impact

it also has a light attack stab after the push attack

which has pretty good numbers

[cold trellis]

Ah good to know!

[celest valve]

wrath + ...some other blessing if you don't want to hassle with peril edging. Drop wraith if you can keep at least like... 70% peril with assail or the weapon's speical.

[deft stump]

Also, even if you sneak in now, is APAC region lul.

[celest valve]

(warp splitting is frankly broken, especially as it works on assail. although may be currently needed for havoc and higher mass :x)

[thorn cedar]

that assail interaction just cannot be right lmao

still waiting on it to just randomly be nerfed and them to never mention it

[indigo thunder]

Some other blessing isn't very specific, innit? xd

[celest valve]

look it can be deflector if you really like deflector, it can be something with more damage

shreds good and common, I think

some people may prefer unstable power instead if they havve to run wrath

riposte is also decent, precognition as people have noted has a very low window and is likely not that great

[indigo thunder]

And what about perks?

[celest valve]

momentum gives a lot of toughness but this is usually not needed on psyker as they have the best toughness regen out of non-ogryns(and ogryns still run toughness regen lol)

[thorn cedar]

precog is fine if you accept that you are probably never going to land a stab heavy in the window it's active

[celest valve]

uhhh iunno look at psycharium for that

[cold trellis]

How come you dropped warp rider?

[thorn cedar]

couldnt afford it

+10% HP also doesnt go very far in high havocs so that node is a real stinker leading into it

[cold trellis]

Ah I see. Would you change smth about the build if it wasn‘t havoc but „normal“ play?

[thorn cedar]

oh yea, absolutely

most people to begin with dont use Mind in Motion so

thats an easy drop for everyone not me

and you dont really need Soulstealer + Quietude for toughness regen

i might actually drop ethereal shards too now that i think about it

[cold trellis]

Got it, ty!

[celest valve]

yeah i generally don't think moving while quelling is ever really needed and if it is, i think there's some tech that lets you do that anyway

[thorn cedar]

when absolutely all of your toughness/stamina/dodges are being strained to the limit by shooters, not having to commit to tech in order to move + quell in downtime periods is incredibly nice

and when a fight ends i can just hold R and still keep up with the team while SG builds free stacks

[cold trellis]

Sorry for my psyker-noob questions: how about lingering influence instead of perfectionism? Or are the 4s easy enough to maintain?

[thorn cedar]

get to trigger Warp Unleashed when i went to

[celest valve]

i mean honestly shooters are usually dealt with by falling back just a little and everyone accepting that yes it is okay to use ammo on them

[thorn cedar]

yea but its when youre caught unawares

if the choice is doing funky tech to quell and move vs. just quell and move

the latter, every time for me

[celest valve]

personally I don't think perfectionism is that good, in part because you can't really rely on it for any breakpoints and it's kinda just like... 10% damage for that otherwise

i prefer the relaxed nature of lingering

[thorn cedar]

I think the 4s is fine once you are used to it. My recommend is that you start with the 10s node, and if you find you're almost always at 15 stacks, then try the 4s one

Now that they've reworked the DD target selection shit, it's almost trivial to farm out a group of blue bois

[cold trellis]

Good idea, I will start like that

[thorn cedar]

also it's not 'just 10% damage', it's an extra 10% damage, 20% crit damage, and 25% weakspot damage, and 45% crit weakspot damage, on top of everything else

the bonuses are stupid fucken strong

[celest valve]

yes but also disrupt destiny is just good without it and, again, there is nice peace of mind in knowing that the stacks are just maxed always

[thorn cedar]

oh yea, like 15 stacks is already stronk

which is why if 15 stacks is exceedingly trivial to sit at

see if you can go further

cause you're missing out

[autumn lark]

Disrupt destiny stacks degrade like warp charges so its your pick

[thorn cedar]

there is some incredibly silly shit that starts to happen with your weapons at 24/25 stacks

like two shotting reapers with your laspistol

[celest valve]

veterans: "look what they need to match a fraction of our power"

[thorn cedar]

xstance is pretty sexy now though

that stagger immunity while it's active is clutch

[celest valve]

(ok yeah it doesn't match scrier's gaze but veterans tends to just do psyker things more consistently for ranged)

[thorn cedar]

and you can just run it in melee now too

[celest valve]

me when there's 30 fucking gunners and i'm like "fuck yeah it's shooting gallery time"

and then we lose the game anyway because everyone else is like WHEEE I'LL HELP, runs into the crossfire, and gets fuckin annihilated

[slim acorn]

does quietitude work on passive quelling?

[thorn cedar]

ye

all quell

any time that number go down, your other number go up

[celest valve]

quietude afaik is usually why some people aren't a fan of ER

cause peril already goes down so fast with it

although now i am wondering if it is actually functional hmm.

[analog agate]

ER is definitely a detriment to quietude. Most (all) of the meta builds doing WS still take ER though

[fringe garden]

I'm currently running an ER/DD setup. The toughness gen is less, but the sheer sustained DPS is insane.

[celest valve]

probably is tbh, I know why the rending talent isn't functional and it's probably because of their merge request system

[magic cipher]

MK8 feels very very good for hoard clearing but I'm not a fan when it comes to boss slaying

[fringe garden]

Not using quietude. Just Mettle and the toughness on warp kill.

[thorn cedar]

I mean yea it's a double-dip against it. Less Peril gen and less Toughness gen'd from the now-limited Peril

[celest valve]

(it likely ran afoul of another merge request affecting the same line, this is why you shouldn't put everything on a single line)

[thorn cedar]

also people take ER because PotS does literally nothing lmao

so your options are pretty limited there

"hmmm do i take a dead node and waste my talent point, or take a slightly uncomplimentary but effective node?"

[celest valve]

incorrect, it still does a significant amount of calculations for the server

[slim acorn]

WS?

[analog agate]

Warp siphon

[thorn cedar]

me when i DDoS my havoc games

[slim acorn]

oh right

[analog agate]

Psykers also lost a point during the rework because of the addition of those two nodes too. So taking ER allows you to gain that point back and not take tranq (if you were using it to begin with)

[celest valve]

i'll be honest I started using disrupt destiny because I like using abilities, and I never get warp charges :p

[thorn cedar]

I just hate Warp Charges and their base function

That they get consumed for CDR by default fucking bothers me

I just want the static damage

[analog agate]

Now that I can see my DD stacks I like it again

[thorn cedar]

Not this yoyo bullshit

[celest valve]

psyker_reload_speed_warp_charge = { description = "loc_talent_psyker_reload_speed_warp_desc", display_name = "loc_talent_psyker_reload_speed_warp", icon = "content/ui/textures/icons/talents/psyker_3/psyker_3_tier_6_3", name = "Reload Speed Increase at cost of Warp Charge", format_values = { warp_charge = { format_type = "percentage", value = talent_settings.reload_speed_warp.warp_charge, }, reload_speed = { format_type = "percentage", value = talent_settings.reload_speed_warp.reload_speed, }, threshold = { format_type = "percentage", value = talent_settings.reload_speed_warp.threshold, }, }, passive = { buff_template_name = "psyker_reload_speed_warp", identifier = "psyker_reload_speed_warp", }, }

i think that's the... thi no wait

herf that's the reload talent ok

(threshold should be 97 btw for peeps wondering)

[wispy bay]

I use Warp charge solely for the cooldown in havoc.

[slim acorn]

for in fire reborn, does the soulblaze have to be the killing blow? or is it any hit that kills an enemy effected?

[wispy bay]

Though, I think the 6 warp charges are a trap.

[thorn cedar]

any Soulblazing'd enemy that dies

[slim acorn]

neat

[thorn cedar]

emphasis on any

[magic cipher]

What's the dump stat on guns for psyker?

[thorn cedar]

doesnt have to be your soulblaze

[thorn cedar]

collat

[magic cipher]

Ty 👍

[thorn cedar]

otherwise i dump ammo

i refuse to dump mobility

[wispy bay]

Run n gun ammo hoarding

You need that mobile to increase the ammo hoarding possibility.

[thorn cedar]

idk if yall are just playing on like
ultra FOV or a negative FOV value or something but

[magic cipher]

Think I'm gonna put a recon lasgun on my FGS build

[thorn cedar]

i genuinely notice the difference between 5.1 and 5.2 sprint speed

[wispy bay]

I play with 0 mod

[thorn cedar]

samesies

[wispy bay]

And just did havoc 40 and true survivor

Play as the Big E intended.

[thorn cedar]

i still dont have true survivor lul

ill get it when i get it

[wispy bay]

Lol, I wasn't even planning on getting it. Just at the last objective, we realized that no one was down.

[prime elk]

based.

[wispy bay]

No one on my team has the title before then.

[patent mango]

theres probably a guy out there that plays with every single mod tbh

truly scary stuff

[plucky flax]

I'm not that gud

[thorn cedar]

you probably are

[plucky flax]

Not me btw

[patent mango]

clearly you should get more mods

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

Your mods should have mods

[deft stump]

Sus.

[plucky flax]

People still ask for my modlist. They don't know it's literally all the mods

[marble crater]

[deft stump]

So what's your modlist?

[patent mango]

start throwing in some mods from different games in there

get sodium + iris shaders

[plucky flax]

Reshade

[marble crater]

Alternate starts from Skyrim

[plucky flax]

Rtgi

Enb

[deft stump]

[plucky flax]

Big boobas skimpy armours pack

[deft stump]

[plucky flax]

Jiggle physics enabled

[deft stump]

Extra heresy, I see.

[thorn cedar]

i love when the boobass is thicc

[magic cipher]

Anyone have any advice on doing boss damage with MK8?

[plucky flax]

Don't lie girls also enjoy the jiggle

[thorn cedar]

spam heavies

dont gotta overthink it

[deft stump]

I don't. You know I play Senran Kagura games.

[plucky flax]

I dunno what that is

[magic cipher]

Cool ty

[deft stump]

Booba ninjas. Big booba ninjas. Except poor Mirai.

She pettan.

[plucky flax]

Sounds like good game

[marble crater]

Big boobs on a ninja seems like a bad idea

Not very stealthy

[plucky flax]

I want to play that ps5 exclusive game for the content
Uuhh the Asian chick with really long hair

[deft stump]

Kitteh rike. Yes, will suggest you try. Estival Versus, probs best.

[plucky flax]

I hope it comes to pc at since point

[marble crater]

Stellar Blade?

[deft stump]

Shinovi is faster though.

[plucky flax]

This is the one yes

Action 3rd person game with nice physics

[marble crater]

How about The Thirst Descendant?

[plucky flax]

Doesn't interest me

The combat looks ass

[final scarab]

guys i need some help
i just got back into playing and how is it possible that i can get only mk 8 swords - i see no mk6 in any shops at all and buying them from armory also gives only mk8 ones

[marble crater]

They added jiggle physics though

[patent mango]

that game looks like pure slop lmao

[plucky flax]

Tru pls give jiggle to darktide

[patent mango]

click on the weapon in ur arsenal

top right click marks

[marble crater]

It's sexy warframe with more grinding and combat is indeed not fun

[wispy bay]

Thirst Descendants is bad

i rather Warframe

[patent mango]

how did they decide to just make wf but worse in every way

[deft stump]

When female models being used???

[bold cape]

literally korean-monetized warframe with sex appeal and generic ue5 slop graphics/assets

[wispy bay]

Warframe dev are also a bunch of degenerates, so extra spice in that game.

[plucky flax]

Pay $10 to get pretty female model with jiggle

[deft stump]

They just gave the women the male body outfits.

[wispy bay]

Yes, and it sucked hard.

[bold cape]

cause if it’s sexy it makes money
that’s it

[wispy bay]

The game is so sexist, they don't even give you the female ogryn.

[patent mango]

its over...

[thorn cedar]

TTD always looked like complete shit to me lmao

[deft stump]

They don't even do that. I will buy cosmetics I like.

[thorn cedar]

"Generic Korean Asset Flip: The Game"

[patent mango]

i did play the beta and i had slight hopes probably

maybe ( i barely remember it)

then it just became really weird

[wispy bay]

Warframe now has dating sim built in. It's a better game in every way.

[patent mango]

u can become best friends with them too its cool

[bold cape]

i heard you can date a goth woman
10/10 game

i havent played since like
new war

[final scarab]

oh im blind thank you

[bold cape]

grind centric games lost their appeal to me once i obtained life responsibilities

[marble crater]

[bold cape]

now i play silly coop games and weird obscure indie titles that have 100 reviews on steam

[patent mango]

rain worl co op

[celest valve]

doesn't darktide kinda count there tho

[bold cape]

when i played balatro’s beta last year i was not expecting it to become a goty nominee
but its a welcome surprise
should’ve been balatro sweep tbh

[bold cape]

nah, not even close

it used to maybe with the shitty rng itemization

but no, it takes infinitely longer to get shit in games with grind being the core focus, and there’s always usually a pay to skip mechanic, so your time is always compared directly to money

i max out a weapon in a few auric games, so 1-2 hours
instead of another game taking dozens of hours or hundreds of dollars if not more lmao

[patent mango]

imagine if they add grind back with red rarity somehow

[prime elk]

after they add in havoc 80

[bold cape]

oops all chaos spawns

[thorn cedar]

people want grind, it's rather upsetting

[bold cape]

id rather just play a game for fun

like l4d2 was peak
no grind, no progression unlocks
just
play the game to have fun

a little is okay
but it should be obtainable within a reasonable enough timeframe that you’d unlock it just by playing the game

[patent mango]

dt is nice rn theres thingamabobs to get but it isnt abysmal

[bold cape]

whenever i start playing a game solely to unlock something or do daily chores or whatever instead of logging on to have fun, i put it down

[celest valve]

what about something like animal crossing where it's like

tending a garden

[bold cape]

i never played that

so i cant say if it has a time mechanic or something

[celest valve]

ok quell speed, vent_warp_charge_speed = 0.7

[bold cape]

but if the game doesn’t progress at all while you’re gone and you just log on whenever you want, that’s fine
i play stardew, rimworld, etc where management and upkeep is the name of the game

but if i had to log onto a game every day or else id miss out on something, that’s bad predatory design

[celest valve]

put in 'buff_vent_speed in warp charge utility

this reduces both the vent duration and the vent interval?

[upper sun]

chat control is one of the best games i played in a very long time

i recommend it highly

[celest valve]

hey does someone know psyker enough to know about when their auto vent decay starts

how many seconds

[thorn cedar]

my brain says two seconds

[summer prairie]

auto_vent_delay = 3

[celest valve]

ok i guess you could look at the same code i'm looking at, cheater :p

[summer prairie]

over your shoulder

[celest valve]

please don't do that I have furry porn on the other monitor

[bold cape]

huh

[thorn cedar]

they said they have furry porn on the other monitor

[bold cape]

[upper sun]

left monitor furry porn right monitor DARKTIDE CODE

[celest valve]

i still find it hilarious your ogryn can be a scribe

[celest valve]

look my brain needs dopamine and it'll get dopamine

[coarse mural]

But your soul needs the lord, will it get that brother?

[celest valve]

anyway as far as I can tell the quelling speed just makes it take 70% of the normal time, it doesn't alter the delay

[celest valve]

yes, my ticket has already been punched by jesus

can't get unpunched sorry

[summer prairie]

it makes the delay between ticks shorter

[celest valve]

(also i'm ace so the furry stuff i look at is incredibly boring sorry)

[summer prairie]

if you mean Solidity

[celest valve]

ya

and it also reduces the overall duration

[summer prairie]

well yes because the overall duration is just when you hit 0

[celest valve]

(duration and interval are both listed, presumably to know how much to subtract)

[summer prairie]

I've looked at it some

[celest valve]

ok a spreadsheet is far fancier than what i've ever done

[summer prairie]

the code was too hard

[true surge]

Hey guys, can someone please help me get the cliffhanger penance before i succumb to the warp?

[celest valve]

smite without EP but a bunch of warp reducing stuff. hold it into a crowd of people. look at the void. let go

[zinc phoenix]

Can you dump that into chat?

That is HOT

[summer prairie]

what, the whole excel file?

[zinc phoenix]

yeah bby give it to me

[summer prairie]

I don't think it's very useful anymore

[zinc phoenix]

I want to see them cells

I have a dire case of excelophilia

[summer prairie]

the code just looked insane so I had to figure it out

[prime elk]

Assail

[marble crater]

Both would work, I guess. Depends more on the rest of your build

[prime elk]

Alternatively shriek EP smite, which is even more boring

[marble crater]

Assail is not more boring than the other two Blitzes

[zinc phoenix]

Do whatever you want so long as you keep winnin

😂

[prime elk]

😂

[marble crater]

No, but you can make it faster with the middle keystone and Kinetic Resonance add on

If you use double walls they stack as well

Assail is simply the best for leveling, so I would honestly do that and then enjoy the other Blitzes in a proper build at lvl 30, when the game starts

Left side of the shield combat ability

[thorn cedar]

yea

Wall > Special Stopping Wall > Two Walls

or Wall > Bubble > Boosting Bubble

[deft stump]

Anyone able to carry EU havoc 18?

Yes. Host 18.

[hearty wolf]

Could, doing it rn?

[deft stump]

Yeah.

[hearty wolf]

I'll probs need 30m, I'll double check if you haven't done it by then

[deft stump]

Ah. Is more we got a useless vet who lacks shout.

They did not shoot anything worth.

[indigo plank]

“Man, killing with this Yondu shit is so lame. I’d rather just stand still and stun 3 poxwalkers at a time 😤😤” -Average Smite user

[slim acorn]

is it ever worth it to get the staff nodes on the left side?

[wispy bay]

Yes

[indigo plank]

If you have extra points but generally, ehhh

[slim acorn]

empyric shock seems pretty good but i don't get the point of perilous assault

[indigo plank]

Staff M1 isn’t a playstyle I recommend building around

[slim acorn]

my weapon switches are already instant

[indigo plank]

Especially since Fatshark has been banning people that use the macro to fire their surge staff like a fucking laser beam

Good riddance

[slim acorn]

was mostly thinking of it for inferno

but yeah that macro is insane

[wispy bay]

I did my Maelstrom no one down with the staff nodes.

[indigo plank]

Inferno is the one time I’d recommend the staff perks yeah

[wispy bay]

I did with Voidstrike. Though the Inferno is easier.

[indigo plank]

Completely forgot flame staff existed but M1 spam is actually great on it because of the stagger

[slim acorn]

i enjoy setting up soulblaze with it and spreading that with melee to get stacks on enemies faster

since can cut down chaff so quick in melee

[indigo plank]

Back when I used shriek I’d just yell at the horde and everything would disappear because I have corpses off

Surge M2 chain on elite, run up to horde, I AM ONE WITH THE WARP, everything dies

[nocturne dust]

Channeled Force and Empyric Shock? Metawise, only if you have a LMB build, and even then only Empyric Shock

[indigo plank]

But shriek was boring so I swapped to gazer

[nocturne dust]

Perilous Assault is trash

and a tax

[slim acorn]

yeah i hadn't really considered channeled force worth it, the timer is too tight

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, the issue is you could just RMB more on every staff and do more damage instead of bothering to LMB

[wispy bay]

Venting is boring, but I like to use it so I can spam staff more.

[slim acorn]

but stacks do apply faster off of inferno rmb that's true

and in practice i'm only really using my lmb as an approach tool for the stagger

[indigo plank]

I think it says more about the effectiveness of that strike team than the effectiveness of staff talents

[nocturne dust]

Yes, LMB use on Inferno should be limited as possible

[wispy bay]

Thing about Gazer with me is that if I want to blast gun or slash melee, I have other classes.

[nocturne dust]

if you want to max damage

[radiant frigate]

is it potentially worth to run transfer peril for havoc lmb surge

or is that xd

[nocturne dust]

no

[radiant frigate]

xd it is

[indigo plank]

RMB Surge Gazer stronk

[nocturne dust]

Missing nexus or surge hurts a lot

[wispy bay]

I agree, but still.

[indigo plank]

Watch enemy health disappear in large chunks

[hearty wolf]

Does rampage actually proc on the hit that cleaves multiple targets? Or only subsequent hits?

[radiant frigate]

this used to be top 10 ways to instantly die before WU

[nocturne dust]

subsequent, no?

That would be something I haven't tested

[hearty wolf]

I think that's why it doesn't work for me in havoc and why cranial was doing bette rbut

That should be really easy to teat

I'll launch up the game

[nocturne dust]

but it's unlikely it goes back and buffs the already-cleaved target damage

[indigo plank]

If I play a match with Cole and then come in here arguing “Yeah man Battle Meditation is fucking goated in Havoc. We didn’t have a single down” it’s very disingenuous

[hearty wolf]

That's actually a major downside for rampage if so though

[nocturne dust]

True

That's why it kinda sucks

[wispy bay]

Well, you are right.

[indigo plank]

It…took some learning

Made psyker very exciting

[radiant frigate]

remember not to fly too close to the sun

[indigo plank]

If I ever need to turn my brain off, this is the class for it. What is ammunition?

Here, my little Ogryn

Grenade, all for you

[radiant frigate]

but how are you going to weave blade and spell in a satisfying way if brain is off?

[indigo plank]

Yes, veteran. Please take all the ammo. I won’t be needing a single box (:

Blissful ignorance? Nirvana? Who knows

[nocturne dust]

What are breakpoints anyway

All I know is DoT

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[indigo plank]

I have a fever, and the only cure is more CC

[hearty wolf]

@nocturne dust It doesn't proc on the hit that

that activates it

So in all those crusher packs. rampage is giving 0 value

[nocturne dust]

[wispy bay]

Uh... my game that got True Survivor... I have Battle Meditation...

I think that I'm just an off meta guy.

My Havoc 40 game (a different match), I used a very unorthodox build that the vet chat was laughing at me.

[marble crater]

Battle Meditation is good in havoc though

[wispy bay]

Vet with Krak and ALL grenade nodes.

[slim acorn]

that physically hurts me

[wispy bay]

Yes, I know.

[indigo plank]

Again, my point is that it’s not necessarily speaking to the merit of the talent. A good player can still perform well with suboptimal talents, and a bad player can still be carried by a good team

[deft stump]

Just mentioning it got done. Got help from Vet mains and had an good vet.

[indigo plank]

If you’re performing well and holding your own, awesome

[wispy bay]

It hurts me to look that it before this havoc grind. Then I find it to be one of the more effective build.

[nocturne dust]

And I get carried by my meta munchkinnery

[indigo plank]

It’s like arguing Swift Certainty is meta on zealot. Just because it helped out once doesn’t mean it isn’t a sad perk who’s entire existence is invalidated by the crouch key

[wispy bay]

If you can create grenades from thin air, and take down big spongy targets, it is a way to save ammo!

[indigo plank]

I don’t think anyone in their right mind would argue against demo expert stockpile lol

[slim acorn]

i mean for crusher or mauler waves sure, but shredders are so good

and shredders can do most of the work there

[deft stump]

@marble crater GF going to bed soon. You up in like 10 mins?

[marble crater]

Let's say 20, eating dinner right now

[wispy bay]

I think the only grenade node that I don't take is the ammo crate giving grenade. The crate doesn't have enough charge to make it effective.

[marble crater]

But corruption healing

[deft stump]

That's fine. I sleep like in weird hours anyway.

[slim acorn]

it's mostly there for the med crates

[wispy bay]

Zealot can take care of that.

[slim acorn]

the grenades on ammo crates is just a bonus

[deft stump]

HISS HISS.

[slim acorn]

it's corruption and the medical crate heals twice as much

[marble crater]

Okay maybe we can force someone else to help too

[slim acorn]

i don't have enough time for a run, heading to a birthday party in half an hour

[wispy bay]

I actually forgot about that part of the node.

[deft stump]

It's just a strike mission on damnation, what can go wrong?

Ans: EVERYTHING.

[marble crater]

[slim acorn]

honestly, i find that aurics are easier, more things to get kill perks on and team is generally a little less suicidal

[deft stump]

Don't think it matters if it ends up being a 4 man, lul.

[slim acorn]

right, i'm so used to playing with randos. I really should play with ppl from the discord more

[deft stump]

I just panic more but it will be fine.

[bold cape]

aurics tend to be easier cause people usually (usually) know what they’re doing

[deft stump]

I don't.

I'm a heresy player.

[wispy bay]

If you guys are on NA, I can join for a few games.

[deft stump]

Anything higher and AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[bold cape]

i find lower difficulties actually pretty hard because im basically soloing them

[slim acorn]

aurics have heresy difficulty

[cold trellis]

Which perks are recommended for fgs and recon? And which mark for recon?

[deft stump]

That's still higher than heresy.

[bold cape]

but in auric maels everyone knows what they’re doing and carries their own weight so i do just fine

[slim acorn]

kinda?

[wispy bay]

I was farming revive/rescue penances in Malice and Heresy. People just die regardless of what I try.

[deft stump]

But still.

[bold cape]

yea exactly

[deft stump]

If shout res even works towards it. Lul.

[bold cape]

shout res
the horror

[wispy bay]

I play ogryn there.

[slim acorn]

blessing depend on recon, but perks just the standard flak maniac. crit chance is also an option but less needed than on vet

[deft stump]

Because having to use it and manually pick ppl up constantly.

[slim acorn]

it does not

[deft stump]

Ah well.

[cold trellis]

Flak+maniac for both weapons?

[wispy bay]

Ogryn in low difficulty is so fun, you are a 1 ogryn army.

[deft stump]

Look, I can't pick up 3 people.

[slim acorn]

sword depends on build, are you playing assail?

[cold trellis]

Yes

[wispy bay]

Turn on Barrage and bosses die within seconds.

[bold cape]

you’re right
you need to know when it’s best to just leave someone to die

[slim acorn]

then probably carapace and unyielding

[deft stump]

I press shout, all done.

[bold cape]

yea but you gimp the rest of the ability

[slim acorn]

nah, never going to have all 3 in range, and shout can knock back adds anyway

there is literally never an optimum use case for shout rez

[deft stump]

Depends on if you get actual newbies or THAT sort of player.

[wispy bay]

Well, in higher difficulty, the overshield might save your ally more by not having them down in the 1st place.

[nocturne dust]

[deft stump]

Newbies tend to stick, even if kinda bad spots.

[nocturne dust]

That is not the auric mael experience

[slim acorn]

.> i mostly see them wandering aimlessly

[strange jewel]

New big psiker sword isnt hot sht right?

[bold cape]

gold toughness is the most op thing in the game
shout rez reduces the uptime and often how many people get hit by it cause the range is so awful

[nocturne dust]

FGS really good

[slim acorn]

it's really good on a melee build, but it's a little slow

[bold cape]

well it was
before havoc

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1321371717599367198/Greatsword_Elmo.gif

[nocturne dust]

[bold cape]

now everyone just getting to lv30 wants to play it to get 16 havoc

[strange jewel]

The special even with no charge still guarantees a lil stun too, right? I really want to use it, but comabt blade just feels good good

[bold cape]

and eat shit and die

[wispy bay]

The thing with overshield is that all of the tnodes that give toughness damage reduction at high toughness are still in effect, so the effective toughness is way higher than it looks.

[deft stump]

Well, I just use it cos pubs are iffy at times. I know I suck, but sometimes they suck even more.

[nocturne dust]

Auric dams are where people generally knew how to play, auric maels are where all the noobs and penance hunters were

[bold cape]

that’s been my experience the last few weeks

[nocturne dust]

That was true prior to Havoc

it just got worse

[deft stump]

I dunno man, I just get dragged into them panicking to heck.

[bold cape]

@nocturne dust wanna run my 40 sometime this weekend
probably grab sin too

[slim acorn]

which capstone are you running?

[deft stump]

I could say no, but peer pressure, you know.

[deft stump]

Vet? Nil.

[bold cape]

no keystone builds are fuckin weird

[slim acorn]

so guessing either grenadier or generalist shooter?

[strange jewel]

Milf called weird:

[nocturne dust]

sure

[marble crater]

@deft stump okay I'm starting the game

[deft stump]

Former, or funni revolver things.

[wispy bay]

So it is 50 over shield, but vet has the -50% damage at over 75% toughness, so the actual number is way higher.

[slim acorn]

use grenades for cc on rezzes, not worth it to go for rescue otherwise

unless you can clear whatever is covering them very quickly

[deft stump]

I do not bring revolver out of heresy.

It's just made for stupid shit on it like 1 headshot reaper.

[slim acorn]

and admittedly that is a habit i've been trying to break, rescues almost always end up being the most personal deaths

[wispy bay]

Revolver is one of the best weapon for zooming Vet with WS.

[bold cape]

zarona is insane

[deft stump]

On a dumb build btw.

[slim acorn]

yeah but it's not nearly as good on a grenadier spec unless you can fit ws on it

[deft stump]

Yes, that is my revolver build, it's as bad as you think.

[bold cape]

my solution is to never play without ws

[marble crater]

@upper sun are you playing with randoms? Do you want to play aurics and help Karien?

[upper sun]

help her with that

[deft stump]

Cos funni.

[upper sun]

bruh i just woke up from an ogryn m1 game

[deft stump]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN AURICS?

[upper sun]

aurics

chill

[marble crater]

Damnation strike and experience I guess

[radiant frigate]

i have several questions

[marble crater]

Is fine

[bold cape]

no confirmed kill or out for blood?? may i offer you: toughness

[deft stump]

Is potato build.

[indigo plank]

Just woke up lmao

[deft stump]

I like my fast reload, lul.

[slim acorn]

well at least now i understand why karien is struggling

[upper sun]

warren too

[radiant frigate]

out for blood skipped for checks notes reload speed when not empty

[upper sun]

i fell asleep in the end event

jesus

[slim acorn]

literally just play ws for passive reloads

[bold cape]

lmfao

[radiant frigate]

karien we will fix all your builds

trust

[magic cipher]

Playing melee psyker is auric maelstroms is hard 😩

[radiant frigate]

reduce panic by at least 15%

[deft stump]

Nu, Chaos already did that for my Zealot.

[indigo plank]

Understandable for Warren

[slim acorn]

if you want the reload animation there are better ways

[upper sun]

give her a light spam heavy melee for maximum freakout damage

[deft stump]

I still panic to heck.

[indigo plank]

Not even the tanks smashing can turn the brain back on

[wispy bay]

This Psyker chat is now Vet chat 2.

[indigo plank]

It’s just Hugh stirring brownie batter

[slim acorn]

well yeah, you have no toughness regen

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-attack-darkest-dungeon-death-gif-18532457

average karien experience?

[marble crater]

@deft stump you needed a strike yes?

[slim acorn]

at least take the node for headshot regen and damage resist

[deft stump]

Even my grenade build lacks them. It will be fine. PANIC.

[bold cape]

literally throw on out for blood and shredders and the build is 10x better already

[deft stump]

Yes, because the easiest mission ppl drag me into is like, normal auric damnation.

[slim acorn]

oh i completely missed it having both revolver and kraks, and again I ask WHY

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/darkest-dungeon-hopeless-plague-doctor-gif-13347468273539957889

[radiant frigate]

BOOM

that is why

[deft stump]

Because DOOK CRUSHERS.

[bold cape]

could be getting sm value out of shredders + out for blood

[radiant frigate]

i think shredders suck actually!!

[bold cape]

statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

[wispy bay]

Frag has its place

[deft stump]

I made it just for stress relief against crushers.

[slim acorn]

this is bait

revolver already shits on crushers

[deft stump]

2 shots, ded crushers.

Another?

Fine, eat boosted krak.

[radiant frigate]

ah but have you considered that it isn't?
what if it's just my pure unfiltered dogshit opinion?

[bold cape]

mmmm mk6 power sword stabby crusher

[wispy bay]

2 shots?

[slim acorn]

then i'll have to google the nearest psychiatric hospital

[deft stump]

It's not a minmax. I wanted some stuff that makes it worse. I also want shout.

[slim acorn]

hun, of course that's not a minmax, its a min min

[wispy bay]

I mean, I never arrive to do that.

[radiant frigate]

maxmin

[wispy bay]

I really don't remember to kill 2 shots crusher.

[magic cipher]

What do you guys think of my curios for melee psyker?

[deft stump]

Look, it's just something to just relax after all the bs I have to deal with when playing Psyker.

[slim acorn]

that build looks stressful as hell

[radiant frigate]

block eff pointless

[deft stump]

And tbh, I mostly run my funni grenadier stuff now.

[slim acorn]

how in the world is that to relax

[bold cape]

struggle build

[deft stump]

It booms crushers.

it also booms maulers.

Is gud, am happi.

[wispy bay]

Me playing psyker... just spam staffs and sometimes rub my sword.

[deft stump]

Simple as.

[slim acorn]

you know what, i'm happy you are having fun

[rancid latch]

too much work

run smite

hold button

win

[bold cape]

never understood kraks for anything other than boss damage, there’s just so many things in the game that deletes crushers and such
in the time it takes to arm and explode the zealot has ran in and two tapped him anyway lmao

[rancid latch]

Havoc + kraks are S tier

[slim acorn]

well off I go, time for party

[bold cape]

tbf ive never seen a vet in havoc yet

[rancid latch]

cuz most suck

so they don't get invites

the ones that do are friends with the zealots n psykers running the assignments lmao

[wispy bay]

One or 2 crusher, no big deal. But when 12 of them running at you and stack up, it is amazing

[rancid latch]

^

Which in havoc, is like, all the time

[wispy bay]

I always want at least 1 Vet.

[rancid latch]

and if someone gets eaten by a Beast, ez release

1 krak and you probs saved his life

[wispy bay]

Most games with 2 zealots 2 psykers are harder for me.

[upper sun]

@marble crater 😭 we have a smite purge psyker

[indigo plank]

Elevator time is just “I’m stroking my shit I got warp on my shit I’m sanctioned af bro”

[upper sun]

cant wait for the zero boss damage

[indigo plank]

I feel like such a gamer spamming gazer rmb surge on fleshbags

[wispy bay]

Krak to release teammate in many cases better than using VoC.

[bold cape]

almost all my games were 2psy/2zea or 3psy/1zea and they were all for the most part breezy
it was only when we got vets and ogryns did it start becoming a problem lmao

[fringe basin]

Playing the game again after like a year, anyone have a nice smite build?

[bold cape]

yeha don’t use smite
best smite build

[rancid latch]

any build works, as long as you get the Empyrean Resolve or whatever it's called for -40 voodoo generation

[fringe basin]

[rancid latch]

it's on the left-hand side near the bottom

that + smite = perma CC 20-30 enemies for like 30 seconds lol

[indigo plank]

Best way to use smite is to use electro staff instead of trying to use organic non-GMO warp

[rancid latch]

don't listen to these goobers

staff lightning is shit

smite + voidstrike

[indigo plank]

Never have I seen such a shit take from Pooh Bear

[fringe basin]

Can you bless me with a talent build?

[rancid latch]

sure

[indigo plank]

Piglet in shambles rn

[rancid latch]

piglet is a drug addict now

fk him

[wispy bay]

You heathens are confusing the helpless sibling here.

[indigo plank]

Rabbit malding in his burrow

[bold cape]

smite not only drains hp but it also drains sanity
sanity from you and all your teammates from sanitizing the game of all thought necessary

[rancid latch]

what

smite doesn't drain HP

oh

you mean of enemies?

[bold cape]

yes

[rancid latch]

ah

[indigo plank]

Jokes aside, smite doesn’t really do much that the other blitzes and staves can’t

[rancid latch]

yes, getting electrocuted hurts

[rancid latch]

idk if stunlocking 40 enemies rlly counts as "not doing much"

[bold cape]

im sure the melee build will have such a fun time spamming left click on unresponsive meat sacks that’ll die anyway

[rancid latch]

firing up the game, 1 sec

this build will get you 10 auric missions in a row without death

EASILY

[fringe basin]

Dis me

[bold cape]

best part about smite is not only do you get to choose how you play the game
but how all 3 of your teammates play the game too!! how exciting

[indigo plank]

Most smykers have a habit of stunlocking the 6 poxwalkers at the front of the horde that were going to be bisected by the nearest zealot in the next 3 seconds, then getting flattened by an overhead because they aren’t paying attention

It’s like old knife zealot

It’s viable

You just don’t want to trust the person to perform

[fringe basin]

I am here for the unlimited power meme >:L

[indigo plank]

Also generally the best CC is killing shit so like

[rancid latch]

ig, but it's smite is S-tier in the hands of someone decent

[indigo plank]

Smite kinda just falls off after the meme value wears off

[rancid latch]

like

smite is so good

I made a 2nd psyker

[indigo plank]

It’s definitely fun to try out for a couple games but it’s hilariously boring

[wispy bay]

I was queueing for havoc 35+ as Ogryn and people still pick me.

[bold cape]

it’s also just
extremely boring
i dont mind what people take into games but smite directly effects the game im playing too
i dont have to dodge or kite or use any of my brain because nothing moves
it is extraordinarily mindnumbing

[indigo plank]

That and throwing a few assails out then getting back to staff/FGS spam is going to do a lot more for your team than just standing there dealing ticks of 9 damage

IMO

[dense flume]

I didn't mind smite until I played zealot. it's annoying lol

[rancid latch]

do you play havoc?

[dense flume]

didn't mean for that to be a reply, but oh well

[bold cape]

yup

[wispy bay]

I run BB over Assail

[outer ice]

sorry if this has been answered recently but what's the consensus on Empyric resolve? Is it worth it?

[rancid latch]

god tier

[wispy bay]

I have a habit of spamming assail and get corruption by peril...

[indigo plank]

Honestly I didn’t it even on zealot because I used the evi mk3 and smite actually let me kill shit in a reasonable amount of time with the awful cleave lmao

I hate people who shoot pox so much more

[rancid latch]

this is the reason Smite is SO GOOD

[indigo plank]

Because that’s melee toughness regen you’re stealing from me

[bold cape]

reminds me of engi from vt2 tbh

[rancid latch]

-50% peril in total and you can Smite things for no joke 30 seconds straight

[indigo plank]

Any lone pox I’m trying to kill while at half toughness is FOOD and the FAT HUNGRY VETERAN IS STEALING IT ALL FROM MEEEE

[wispy bay]

That -30% toughness regen always hurt.

[indigo plank]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-starve-chocolate-only-big-tummy-full-tummy-gif-15229556

[rancid latch]

not really

they can't move

so it's irrelevant

[dense flume]

I was running hammer + thrust and timing maniac charges, ragers, etc. with the heavy hold only for them to stop dead and me do a big ol' whiff cause they were charging right at us lol

[rancid latch]

Dome + Lightning = Palpatine's Greatest Moments

[indigo plank]

Me on zealot with over 600 melee lesser enemies killed when the veteran dares fire his last bullet into a poxwalker

[wispy bay]

Maybe

[outer ice]

Thats the reason I hesitate to take it. Would make me an even glassier cannon

[rancid latch]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-starwars-star-wars-emperor-gif-7513769

[indigo plank]

Oh that horrific

I’m so sorry

[dense flume]

and sometimes that's a shroud on CD, wasted xD

[indigo plank]

Just the perfectly worst timing

[dense flume]

yup lol

[indigo plank]

Yeah

[rancid latch]

I gotta upload some Smite videos for you guys to understand what I'm trying to explain

[bold cape]

but yea seeing an ep smitker in the first 30 seconds of an auric is usually a leave game for me
nothing against the guy personally but man is it boring

[indigo plank]

I think you gotta watch some smyker videos for you to understand what the entire room is trying to explain lol

[rancid latch]

Boring is a rarity in this game lol

[rancid latch]

idk what you're trying to explain

[wispy bay]

I do run EP smite, but no one even knows that I do.

[rancid latch]

all I've heard is it makes the game "boring"

[bold cape]

smite ignores all of the game’s mechanics and overwrites it with “hold left click and have the slightest tiniest ounce of positioning knowledge”

[indigo plank]

Being in the shit vs Watching it are two different things

[wispy bay]

Also, EP node without upgrade for smite.

[rancid latch]

so?

that doesn't make it bad lol

Smite is S-tier

[nocturne dust]

(incorrect)

[rancid latch]

even if it makes it boring, it's still amazing

[outer ice]

Always amusing to watch the perfect division of opinions in regards to smite. Personally i've always had respect for smite psykers, never had problems with em

[nocturne dust]

Smite is overpowered with or without ER

[bold cape]

im not saying its bad
im saying it trivializes the game
im just saying its extremely boring and makes playing with a smitker a nightmare

[wispy bay]

Most of the time I play with smite players, they always get downed 1st.

[bold cape]

and it shouldn’t exist

or should be reworked entirely

[rancid latch]

it really is, I did a havoc 40 with only 21 mastery points spent lmfao

[indigo plank]

Watch how somebody else handles smite, watch how the majority of people handle smite, now say in good conscience that you’d recommend it to new people who have no clue what they’re doing and that it would be a positive experience for them and others

[rancid latch]

I forgot my build was half-done and still cleared it with smite power

[rancid latch]

ok fair, but this is havoc, I'm presuming you know how to play

[indigo plank]

I can go into Heresy with EP Gazer boosted assails and just walk through the entire map holding G. It’s not a very great experience for anyone else so I wouldn’t recommend it to newbies

[bold cape]

i hate smite regardless if the person knows what they’re doing with it or not
if they don’t, it’s a 3 man game
if they do, it’s a 1 man game cause all teammates are now rendered completely unneeded

[rancid latch]

you're god damn right

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-smile-creepy-creepy-smile-smirk-gif-24584761

[wispy bay]

I hate to say that I agree with this.

[nocturne dust]

The Smite player when the boss spawns:

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[indigo plank]

That’s what I’m trying to get at. Not so much that smite straight sucks wang, but that it’s so bad for the game that I’d personally rather point folks in a better direction

[rancid latch]

no bro, duelling sword

[bold cape]

my favorite part about the game is weaving through crushers and enemies that’ll one shot me, dodging and blocking and killing them
and smite completely takes that away

[rancid latch]

Lmao

[nocturne dust]

That isn't smite

[indigo plank]

Also don’t want new players to get lumped in with stereotypes

[rancid latch]

"my mage is too effective, ability sucks"

[indigo plank]

And Smykers are bullied righteously

So if I can steer them away from being yelled at by Dorn in random games

Ima do that lol

[wispy bay]

Me parrying crusher and kill them with counter strike.

[bold cape]

yeah. an ability can be too good

[rancid latch]

and an opinion can be wrong

[bold cape]

especially when it’s very easy to use
ideally the most powerful things would be the hardest to utilize

[rancid latch]

they're glass cannons chaining a spell where they can't move and have to face a certain direction at all times

[indigo plank]

It’s why people were saying giving zealot and vet DS was silly

[rancid latch]

it does less damage than fire, but it CCs to offset this

[nocturne dust]

(you can look around)

[indigo plank]

Zealot became braindead with DS + Boltgun

[wispy bay]

Yeah, it shouldn't have the safe net of not getting pass 100% peril.

[rancid latch]

sort of

[wispy bay]

I find it bullshit

[indigo plank]

And it was objectively the BiS weapon par none

[rancid latch]

if you look too far away, it'll start chaining to someone else and will have to re-distribute the chain again

[bold cape]

but unfortunately ds4 is one of the easiest weapons in the game while also being the best

[wispy bay]

Like, you can hold smite and never care about getting peril of the warp killing you.

[bold cape]

and the same applies to smite

[nocturne dust]

I mean, dying from perils of the warp is a non-issue for any experienced player

[rancid latch]

ye

[wispy bay]

I hate the rapier.

I can't get used to it.

[bold cape]

tren ;)

[indigo plank]

I’d make a joke that it’s the pox that get them but I only see the icon pop up when they go down, not necessarily what just downed them

I just start making my way over to pick them up lol

[nocturne dust]

😭 sorry, most experienced players

[bold cape]

@split lance

[nocturne dust]

Lad is too busy playing Marvel Rivals

[bold cape]

man

[indigo plank]

Their matchmaking realized I’m a semi competent player so all I get is nose picker teammates to carry

I can’t enjoy support anymore because these mf’s can’t hit their shots and I gotta swap to damage

LEEEEEEGEEEEEEEENDARY

[wispy bay]

Me playing Ogryn...

[indigo plank]

Basically lol

[rancid latch]

this is why i don't invite veterans anymore

[wispy bay]

Because the team can't get the job done, I just turn on Barrage with my twin link...

[rancid latch]

dumb cunts NEVER kill snipers

[indigo plank]

Average day on Atoma
No Ogryn all day
Swap to Ogryn for one single match
Dumber than fucking lore Ogryn teammates in auric mael

[wispy bay]

I did Havoc 30 with Ogryn... It was painful not because of the enemy, but the teammates.

[nocturne dust]

This is why PvP is dumb

[indigo plank]

Agreed

[bold cape]

also agreed

[indigo plank]

I miss Source auto balance

[nocturne dust]

To be fair, Psykers generally have the easiest time with snipers

[rancid latch]

L4D pvp was some of the most fun I've ever had in a l4d game

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike, BB, Assail all require very little aim to off a sniper

[bold cape]

making me wanna play some tf2

i might actually

[indigo plank]

It created at attitude of “game doesn’t matter” because you could absolutely crush 90% of the game for BLU team, just to get auto balanced to RED right before victory

[rancid latch]

I wish they'd make TF3, but we all know Valve has a phobia of the number 3

[indigo plank]

You knew you did well, seeing “VICTORY” didn’t mean that much

Although hearing Ellen say it as the announcer was terrific

[bold cape]

hl3 tga 2025

[rancid latch]

fake news

[indigo plank]

cries in assail range cap

[wispy bay]

I used to love TF2, but can't get back to it for some reason.

[bold cape]

i still love it

demoknight my beloved

[indigo plank]

Do you just frag out in community servers or do you play the proper casual/competitive modes

[wispy bay]

Like Warframe I guess, I got burnt out from the grind that I can't get back to it anymore.