psyker-class

[buoyant maple]

it's ok as a 2nd blessing for XIV

dum dum + deathspitter

[keen solar]

I mean that 3.5 second window seems very forgiving

[buoyant maple]

for the other two recon variants, dum dum + infernus

[keen solar]

Does dumdum buff infernus dmg?

[buoyant maple]

yes

[keen solar]

That explains it then

[buoyant maple]

because close damage covers everything

[keen solar]

I'll probably keep dumdum then

[buoyant maple]

deathspitter also buffs infernus dmg

because it's total strength

[keen solar]

Oh for sure

but them both being on hit blessings makes it easy

So I get that now

I just remember seeing that Deathspitter on Recon was actually quite good

[buoyant maple]

if u run recon XIV I'd suggest dum dum + deathspitter

other 2 variants, dum dum + infernus

[keen solar]

That's the Heavy one right?

[buoyant maple]

XIV has the best TTK vs low mass elites and specialists so it's easier to maintain deathspitter

[buoyant maple]

yes

slow firerate high dmg

[keen solar]

I always go by color

[buoyant maple]

tan color

[keen solar]

The blue recon the green and tan

yeah exactly

They've changed the names so much

I still call the Accatran shotgun the Kantrael

[buoyant maple]

there's also a reload cancel trick

[buoyant maple]

it's been 3 months get used to the new names

[keen solar]

I don't read I just see fancy colors

[buoyant maple]

https://youtu.be/z3eYRQDhNhE

[keen solar]

I just say because everyone else uses the names

[keen solar]

Sprint cancel?

[buoyant maple]

ogryn mindset

[buoyant maple]

yea
can also swap cancel but I prefer sprint

[keen solar]

I do hope the supposed Ogryn rework gets here soon

[buoyant maple]

might drop alongside longlas for veteran, who knows

[keen solar]

I've heard they're doing a similar thing with what they recently did to Psyker to the other classes

not complaining tho

having more talents/blessings to tinker with is fun

But yeah the TLDR is I've been running Charged Strike Taxe with an Infernus Recon for just being a crit maniac and for having very solid boss dps/debuff potential

I may have to try Taxe with the Brittleness Trauma and see how good that is

[patent mango]

psyker talent tree is nearly peak

theres just like a few slop talents and blitz talent choice copium

[open iris]

only one good blitz cause of the ability cooldown skill

[keen solar]

Yeah there are a few talents I view as just taxes

[keen solar]

Smite is goated but Assail can get very solid if you build it right

[open iris]

like the knives are good but you lose out on such a good skill

[open iris]

disagree about smite

[keen solar]

Plus with Charged Strike now and myself being a melee enthusiest

[open iris]

depends on use

[patent mango]

smite is ok

[keen solar]

Most people misuse Smite

I'm a H40 player

[open iris]

ye

[keen solar]

Smite is literally just a massive force push

That is how you're supposed to play it

Those enemies that glow all electricy after you smite them?

[patent mango]

its nice to troll poxbursters

[keen solar]

Yeah that means that if you smite them again it'll insta chain to them

Which makes it so that as long as you have peril you can keep chain pushing hordes around

Big reason why I actually don't mind the -40% peril generation talent

Because I also use deflector on a GS so with Kinetic deflection I can tank shooters all day

[keen solar]

Also true smite is very handy for making them not a threat

If you get good with Smite though and not just sit and hold it forver, your team will love you

Use it to toss stuff around and lock down tight situations

Most people feel like they're the ones doing all the work when people play that way and just hold smite, so I like to subvert expectations

the DS Charge Zealot getting mogged by the Taxe Smyker

[radiant frigate]

that sounds difficult

ds charge zealot is hard to match in melee

with that monstrous crit damage and attack speed

[late yew]

So what blessing you people prefer on 2h force sword?

[radiant frigate]

wrath and choice

usually riposte

[patent mango]

riposte is peak

[radiant frigate]

unstable power if you are so inclined

[patent mango]

unstable only jolly with assail (probably idk)

but that would make me go insane in a single match

[radiant frigate]

riposte pretty jolly overall

mettle? perfect timing? EE?

yum!

[nocturne dust]

That's definitely new then

Wait...

No, it's not stacking

This is just it combining with the DoT damage

I'm using the fgs mk6 to test

Because the heavy damage is very obvious

It does 1298-1330 on my FGS mk6 stab

with enfeeble

no matter how long I wait (or don't)

The variance is from it combining with the DoT's damage ticks

Wait is kuli's guide wrong

It's wrong

Btw, the damage if I take enfeeble off is 1175 from the stab

[patent mango]

buh if charged strike was good

i could go enfeeble charged strike it'd be so funny

[nocturne dust]

Too bad it sucks

@buoyant maple you should probs also see this before the misinfo spreads

[patent mango]

i wonder if you can straight up buff charged strike dmg by like 4x

without it being op

[nocturne dust]

Lmao at first I was like "+4 damage? You can do that with a lot of buffs"

[patent mango]

funnyn

[nocturne dust]

So how to contact Kuli to tell them their guide is wrong

Let's try this

@brisk rock

[jovial juniper]

💀

[marble crater]

Now we wait?

[magic cipher]

A little bored of inferno and trauma staffs, are the other two worthwhile currently?

Have my eye on EK

[nocturne dust]

outside of Havoc, very much so

[magic cipher]

Cool ty

[nocturne dust]

Inside Havoc, EK is fine if the ranged reduction modifier isn't around

Voidstrike suffers due to all the carapace

[magic cipher]

Ah I see! Good to know EK can still work sometimes

EK should be used with Smite for certain perks right?

[nocturne dust]

Uuuuuhhhh, not necessarily

[magic cipher]

I want to make an EK/FGS build for everything below havoc but not sure how one would build that

[nocturne dust]

iirc enfeeble doesn't work off EK

[magic cipher]

Cool ty 😁 One less reason to Smite then

[marble crater]

EK with brain burst KF is fun

It can proc on the secondary target and allow you to one shot two people at once

[magic cipher]

That does sound fun 👀

[nocturne dust]

If it procs on the first early, you can actually switch primary targets

[magic cipher]

Just found a video of someone doing havoc 40 with a melee build (FGS MK8), my hero

[nocturne dust]

Json does it with mk6

It's alright

[deft stump]

I got my pants. EU ping is fine.

My hand is ded from DS4 zealoting.

[nocturne dust]

Now get true survivor

[deft stump]

Nu. my hand is tired from Zealoting all night long.

[nocturne dust]

B-but... bragging rights

[deft stump]

I don't care, I have knoife pants.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[buoyant maple]

DOT add on would be displayed as an extra number

[nocturne dust]

Hm? No?

[buoyant maple]

If DOT ticks the same time an attack lands, it would show 2 numbers

I’m too lazy to check rn I’m playing BM wukong

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/894568981946576916.gif?size=48&name=FloppaShake&quality=lossless

[nocturne dust]

Well, either you're wrong or Charged Strike isn't counted as a DoT

[buoyant maple]

What

DOT tick does display as an additional number

[prime elk]

brutal momentum wukong?

[nocturne dust]

I mean I feel like I had a similar conversation with someone about soulblaze DoT

[nocturne dust]

Then explain my video

[buoyant maple]

Do I rly gotta get on DT just to check this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/812451078221463632.gif?size=64

[nocturne dust]

Correct, suffer like I did

[marble crater]

Maybe all of you guys should get together and write the ultimate guide

[buoyant maple]

No cuz it’d just be me writing the guide

[nocturne dust]

You can see it tick up on the last strike

[nocturne dust]

Correct

I have an Inferno guide in the works

Trust

[wind spruce]

Dots quite commonly combine with other sources to show one higher number

It's annoying af for testing

[nocturne dust]

Wait did the vet guide maker do all their testing without realizing that

[slim acorn]

You think a blaze force sword built around soul blaze stacks on a soul blaze build would be a meme or at least somewhat useful?

[nocturne dust]

[wind spruce]

Meme

[marble crater]

Meme

[nocturne dust]

blazing spirit is a hard meme on any non-trauma weapon

[buoyant maple]

ok I think I know why

[wind spruce]

Blazing spirit is not a meme on my dad

[buoyant maple]

maybe

lemme check 1 more thing

[slim acorn]

I haven’t tinkering with it outside of my purgatus staff, so was wondering if it would be fun or just painful

[nocturne dust]

I mean, all staves work with soulblaze builds

Swords? Not so much

[keen solar]

I'm watching this with curiosity

[slim acorn]

That’s a shame

Having a fire sword would have been cool

[keen solar]

I will say I did try a Blazing Spirit Sword at one point, and until they remove that DOT cap I'm not gonna use it

If they did that though it might be fun

[wind spruce]

The trick is that soulblaze builds don't exist. There's just builds with or without trauma/inferno and with or without shriek.

[slim acorn]

Rn I just run it with deflector and uncanny to give the armor pierce to my dots while I spread it

[buoyant maple]

I'm afraid
charged strike does not actually apply the "electrocution DOT"

or at least not the normal electrocution DOT commonly associated with shock mauls

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes

I knew that from the Debuffs mod

[strong gulch]

You can still do it, but it's not even close to meta.

[slim acorn]

It’s be surprised if the lightning dot from the shock mail was the same as psyker’s

[slim acorn]

Maybe if I manage to get a spare sword

[nocturne dust]

iirc, EK applies Electrocution

but that's based on the debuff mod showing electrocution with EK, which could be wrong 🤷‍♂️

[buoyant maple]

@keen solar yea no enfeeble does not "stack additionally" from extra ticks

I'll tell kuli to fix his guide

[fringe garden]

Psykers trying to make a flame sword build is like looking for the Holy Grail

It's basically a right of passage in the Psyker community, I think

[keen solar]

Pain, it certainly looks like it sometimes, trick of the eye ig

[wind spruce]

It would be so obvious if it added multiple stacks

[buoyant maple]

basically
the DOT is not normal electrocution DOT and somehow can "weakspot hit" which merges into single hit instances' value

I suspect it's coded as not a DOT

[keen solar]

See the video I posted earlier, clearly shows a 30% improvement in damage, but that must be coming from the DOT

[keen solar]

This*

[wind spruce]

Link?

[buoyant maple]

I tested with knife which deals more damage per hit

single highest damage value recorded with charged strikes' dmg ticks merged: 325 (not a maxed knife)

[keen solar]

@wind spruce

[buoyant maple]

with enfeeble active, 359

which is around x1.1

so no weird stacking business here

[keen solar]

I probably should've noticed that it was probably an added denomination of 8 to the initial hit

[nocturne dust]

I am never wrong (Ignore those times I was wrong)

[buoyant maple]

rare deadvoid w

(also reported to kuli)

[keen solar]

This is why we test lol

Rip Enfeeble

I still like Smite for being able to toss stuff around tho

[nocturne dust]

At least I can get Ws in the Psykhanium 😭

[slim acorn]

Could be. I’d be a little surprised if that’s the case, but nothing wrong with reused assets

[clear heath]

what's this convo about? people thinking enfeeble stacks with itself?

[nocturne dust]

Yes, Pierre showed a video of enfeeble stacking over time with charged strike (but this wasn't what was actually happening)

[wind spruce]

I heard that enfeeble doesn't affect smite's damage

[slim acorn]

Why would you use smite for the damage?

[wind spruce]

Because it kills things

[jovial juniper]

Real

[nocturne dust]

EP smite approaching 😰

[jovial juniper]

Scriers Smite

[deft stump]

Why sad? I'm just not cut for this lul.

Also, i see what you mean by damnation Maelstrom being nothing after Havoc 25.

[nocturne dust]

I don't know if I'm the one who said that but I agree

[deft stump]

Naw, I think is vet mains.

But still.

[buoyant maple]

@nocturne dust @keen solar I talked with kuli

So what he meant in his guide is that the damage instances from changed strike (those tiny damage numbers) actually scale up in enfeeble multiple times and increase over time rather than decrease

But all other attacks would only get benefit from enfeeble once (x1.1) with no additional stacking

[marble crater]

"Strike team, violence. Please"
I love Rannick in the new mission

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/naruhodo-anime-weeb-i-see-glasses-gif-14617903

[cloud lodge]

For voidstrike staff what blessings be recommended?
Also, how does the secondary fire work? Is it like a piercing shot or just a contact kaboom?

[nocturne dust]

surge nexus

It is both piercing and kabooms at end

but kaboom useless

piercing important

[deft stump]

Nu, Kaboom is funni.

Is funni bonus.

[haughty star]

man if blast radius only increased the size of the balls

[deft stump]

I wish the boom AoE was legit bigger, so we now can cast fiyahball.

[strong gulch]

I just woke up and read this out of context. It made me giggle.

[cloud lodge]

I enjoy my funny little stick

[haughty star]

ya'll ever pet one of those ballsack cats?

[cloud lodge]

Id rather die

[haughty star]

things gimme the heebie jeebies. one of my exs had one that i pretended to like and it was legit like snuggling with a ballsack

[cloud lodge]

Real shit, just wouldn't be able to deal with it and dip

[strong gulch]

It's be interesting if the blast radius scaling was wide enough that we could keep voidstrike mostly the same but also have a build that doesn't dump blast radius and that made huge balls.

[haughty star]

she legitimately enjoyed going downtown if ya know what i'm saying so she was a keeper at the time. i was 19 and that's all my brain could wrap itself around lol.

[strong gulch]

I haven't. I've heard they get hella greasy because no or basically no fur.

[haughty star]

oh that's nastay

[strong gulch]

Valid lol.

[cloud lodge]

Circling back to kaboom stick
It kabooms at the end but also pierces? So like, is the kaboom only meaningful if I aim at the floor?

[nocturne dust]

It's not meaningful, period.

[cloud lodge]

:(

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/huge-huge-tracts-of-land-monty-python-gif-8079603

[nocturne dust]

There's a reason the recommended dump on Voidstrike is blast radius, which only affects the end explosion

[cloud lodge]

I dumped Quell speed🗿

[nocturne dust]

ew

You should dump warp res before quell speed

[haughty star]

omg literally never dump quell lol

it's so exponential

[cloud lodge]

Would be nice if the game had better descriptions of stats instead of having to Google or come here to pine for info

Inspect is... lacking

[keen solar]

I need to try voidstrike again ngl

Trauma and Recon las have been glued to my palms

[cloud lodge]

Welp, guess I gotta regamble for all my sticks🥲

I'm too new and too poor for this shit

[strong gulch]

This game is so bad at telling you what is actually happening.

[haughty star]

pretty basic opinion but i went with the ol columnus and it's crazy how much that thing slaps lol

but i still think i prefer recon 12 cuz i lean on the dot alot to save ammo

[cloud lodge]

sigh I got 200k ordo shitbuckets
Time to get into debt and not see a 60 warp res

[haughty star]

just wait man. you want like 200k minimum to empower i think

might be 3

[nocturne dust]

You mean Vraks

[strong gulch]

Recon also handles better. It also doesn't need a ton of clicking. Looking at you laspistol (need a mod to make that thing usable)

[cloud lodge]

Nyeh, want perfect stick, then worry about empower

Not gonna empower bad stick

[haughty star]

screw ObeseMegladon and their stupid renaming lol

[cloud lodge]

Will give me time to get mastery anyway

[nocturne dust]

Voidblaze and Voidshock when

[haughty star]

oh you're like that new

if you want i can drag you through some auric heresy to speed ya up a lil bit

[cloud lodge]

With all due respect, what the fuck else is new supposed to mean lol

[nocturne dust]

Well, I mean

[haughty star]

it wasn't a insult lol

[nocturne dust]

generally speaking, new is probably sub 100 levels

if you have the levels mod

[cloud lodge]

So about mods

[haughty star]

console?

[cloud lodge]

Ye

I'm on da blue console

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-so-you-have-chosen-death-chosen-death-lord-of-the-rings-gif-15767548

[cloud lodge]

:(

I'm tired of getting shit on for liking my console life🥲

[nocturne dust]

I'm not crapping on you, I'm just observing your lack of mods

I would not be able to handle Darktide without mods

[cloud lodge]

Fair, I definitely understand the appeal of a lot of mods

Only reason I dont like mods is half the time its just an easy cop out so the devs never fix anything

[keen solar]

Exactly

[cloud lodge]

Or implement useful shit etc

[keen solar]

I just shoot in short bursts with Scriers active

[nocturne dust]

That's fair

[cloud lodge]

Anywho, yeah I be new
Only ~120 hours

Got all 4 classes to 30 and have done at least 2 builds on each
(Horribly unoptimized but im not running havoc 40 any time soon or potentially ever because I'm just a scrub)

I will be doing the up to havoc 25 though for meh drip

✨FashionTide✨

[marble crater]

We were all scrubs once

[cloud lodge]

I dont just mean new but im just not a peak player in anything really

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

Valid. I've put in a good bit of hours in this game and I'm not a great player. It's cool tho.

[nocturne dust]

As a non-peak player in Havoc 40, you can abuse the meta

[marble crater]

If you don't die and deal damage then you are already better than most

[cloud lodge]

Its what I'd have to do but im gonna hate doing it

[marble crater]

You are a great player, what

[strong gulch]

Me?? I die to silly garbage all of the time.

My perception might be skewed. 😵‍💫

[marble crater]

In the missions we played together so far you always played well, so

[strong gulch]

Hmm good point.

[cloud lodge]

Warp 60 railgun stick acquired

[marble crater]

What's the standard we are measuring against? Being able to solo havoc 40?

[marble crater]

If you mean voidstrike then blast radius is the ideal dump

[strong gulch]

Havoc 40 no cheese or solo aurics. So you right.

[cloud lodge]

I refuse

[strong gulch]

Basis of comparison is a lot.

[nocturne dust]

Havoc 40 with white weapons, no curios, and no talents, solo

That's the standard to be called 'good'

[marble crater]

I had my first real clutch in auric earlier, nobody even said gg at the end

[strong gulch]

[cloud lodge]

I wish diamantine wasn't so damn scarce

[marble crater]

Fuck

[cloud lodge]

I know all the vets are sitting on 7 trillion because of how it used to be

Doesn't fill my wallet though

[unreal bridge]

Is smite not good for dmg?

[cloud lodge]

Stun🗿

[nocturne dust]

It's more rare on lower difficulties

[unreal bridge]

Man I have so much I just never have plasteel

[patent jacinth]

Horrible for it

[cloud lodge]

I play on meh heresies and damnations 😞

[haughty star]

lol quite the opposite \

[cloud lodge]

Hwut

[nocturne dust]

EP smite sitting the corner eyeing you hard

[unreal bridge]

Alr

[haughty star]

it's actually overpowered

[patent jacinth]

Ep smite isn't real

[unreal bridge]

Is the void strike staff good when leveling up?

[nocturne dust]

standard dams would be the best resource farm (other than dockets)

[haughty star]

even without ep smite is a good tool when blending creeping flames in

[strong gulch]

A lot of people don't look for it as hard as they used to. If you want mats you kinda got to hunt for them yourself.

[cloud lodge]

Okie doke

[haughty star]

if you wanna run some missions i'd be down. im getting on

[cloud lodge]

Sure

[patent jacinth]

Best of the staves while leveling because it only has 2 real damage stats

[marble crater]

I still collect mats during missions, what else am I supposed to do between trauma staff casts

[strong gulch]

Bait mobs into backstabbing you while you loot. Pro strat.

[cloud lodge]

I still need to know how you're out of plasteel
Have to be newer than me right?

[marble crater]

Everyone always blocking while looting

[strong gulch]

Why block when you can have a trauma blast charged?

[nocturne dust]

You can level mastery very easily by upgrading weapons to green from brunt's

and then sacrificing them to hadron

[cloud lodge]

Counter point, I am poor

I just level em the ole fashioned way

[nocturne dust]

Well that's why you lack Diamantine and not Plasteel

[cloud lodge]

Hm

[wheat seal]

Havoc with 3 players is very intense

[cloud lodge]

Idk, even if I did that I wouldn't have the diamantine to level the bastard

[haughty star]

i'm in vc 100. my friend code is in my name

[marble crater]

VC 100 is just evil for console players

[cloud lodge]

?

[haughty star]

oh is it?

don't you just control it with your phone?

[wheat seal]

this + assail is very very strong

[marble crater]

We have to scroll so far down

[cloud lodge]

I can join via phone lol

[haughty star]

i thought console people use the phone to tell your ps what to join

[nocturne dust]

I mean that's still true on PC

[marble crater]

I join through xbox

[marble crater]

Yes, but it's much faster on PC

I will have to learn how to use my phone to join discord on xbox

[nocturne dust]

Fair

[deft stump]

Best is, starter weapons only to that.

[unreal bridge]

I have like 30 hrs

Level 30 ogryn level 15 psyker

[marble crater]

The rare ogryn main

[strong gulch]

Woah. When does FGS unlock trust level wise? I got one in the shop for my level 12.

[marble crater]

Lucky lvl 12

[strong gulch]

Truly.

Got a decent DS4 and fire trauma too.

[marble crater]

Now EK and you are set

[worn beacon]

Remind me, is fire trauma better than the generic trauma build?

[marble crater]

(What a stupid name EK is)

[strong gulch]

Yes. Fire trauma is overall stronger than rending flurry trauma.

[worn beacon]

I should def get one then

[strong gulch]

That being said, in high havoc with a purg psyker, rending trauma has been great.

[marble crater]

Wouldn't want to steal their soulblaze

[worn beacon]

Haven't done havoc at all

Because nobody seems to play it

Lmao

[marble crater]

Lucky

[worn beacon]

But I want the moebian 53rd cosmetics

And get back to aurics because they're actually fun

[deft stump]

SEA?

Normal.

GL even getting a game.

I basically did 26 on EU.

[marble crater]

Whenever I check in EU there are plenty of groups

[deft stump]

Lag? Just deal with it.

[strong gulch]

Turns I do but quell is dumped.

[worn beacon]

You know fuck it

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-you-whore-boo-gif-14682759

[worn beacon]

I am moving from SEA server to EU just for aurics

[weary idol]

so FELLAS

[marble crater]

(The staff)

[weary idol]

I understand that guns are bad on psyker on havoc because your other teammates need ammo

but how would I build psyker for sword

[worn beacon]

Just go gunker

[weary idol]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1033034004288520254/1117316081426628649/IMG_0262.gif

[fiery stratus]

Gun psyker is fine, just use something like mk2 laspistol so you can conserve ammo

[worn beacon]

Gunker is basically like melee psyker build

[weary idol]

obviously not taking assail like I usually do for gunker because then I can't get psykinetic aura

[strong gulch]

@clear heath has a build. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da6170f-0cea-42bc-8a70-f44daca948c5/greatsword-havoc-40-build-do-not-use?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[weary idol]

why does it say do not use

[marble crater]

"Do not use"

[fathom siren]

Fire spread, crit and a force sword with the critical soul blaze perk

[weary idol]

that just sounds like fire staff with more steps

[fathom siren]

Yup

Basically

You could change the sword to the dueling sword

[weary idol]

gross

dislike the duelling sword on havoc

bad cleave makes me wann die

[fathom siren]

Agreed

[fiery stratus]

dont really need cleave if your teammates can clear well

[marble crater]

You know what makes me die in havoc? Bad mobility
So DS is my beloved

[deft stump]

I bring burny gun.

[fiery stratus]

ds is good for picking out the elites

[deft stump]

Or burny stick for that.

[strong gulch]

Empowering 130 weapons takes forever.

[marble crater]

130?!

[strong gulch]

lmao

[fathom siren]

I just wish it were possible to do an Assail fire spread build

Throw darts and ignite fools

Thatd be fun

[strong gulch]

look at the level of these perks and blessings. I was lucky to get the T2.

[prime elk]

why 130 lol

[strong gulch]

This character is level 12

[marble crater]

Stamina and sprint? Mobility weapon

[strong gulch]

Shop has baby stuff.

[prime elk]

are you trying for mastery or something else 🤔

[weary idol]

hey deimos and fore greatsword are too

and aren't hopeless into crowds

[strong gulch]

No just a baby psyker.

[fathom siren]

Force Greatsword, my beloved.

[fiery stratus]

never had a issue with crowd clearing what can i say

just did havoc 35-37 with ds earlier and didnt have any problems

[fathom siren]

Ok, Mr Cool

[plucky flax]

It's for single target

[fathom siren]

[fiery stratus]

You glossed over the part where I said teammates will generally handle it

[deft stump]

Why ppl always forget about burny stick and burny gun?

[strong gulch]

@marble crater Shop had a better surge base. So I upgraded.

[fiery stratus]

[marble crater]

Acceptable

[prime elk]

great for a level 12

i just wouldn't bother with rolling for weps until i'm 30

too annoying lol

[fiery stratus]

eh

once you get beyond a certain point material is irrelevant

[prime elk]

all mats... except time and sanity

[plucky flax]

RIP it's 71% charge rate it's so over.

[prime elk]

better delete your character and start over

[fiery stratus]

bricked

[strong gulch]

[fiery stratus]

[glacial cairn]

@deft stump

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

[deft stump]

Why you waste on this dook? I don't even.

[deft stump]

Finally?

[glacial cairn]

ye

should have checked Brunt before dumping 15k Melkbucks

[strong gulch]

I'm 12. Baby psyker and we shop gaming.

Keeping my gamble money.

[deft stump]

Brunt is usually cool.

[glacial cairn]

wtf is that combo-wombo

[deft stump]

Is Brunt, you sometimes get good stuff.

[strong gulch]

buy

[deft stump]

I just buy every good one.

[marble crater]

Luck for 2025, gone

[glacial cairn]

i got everything minmaxed in DT at this point

[deft stump]

I refuse, I gamble till I get max, if Hadron bricks it, I reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee at her.

[marble crater]

Hadron can't brick things anymore

[deft stump]

She can still brick them.

I still had her ruin my guns.

[haughty star]

@buoyant maple decimator and brut al momentum for tac axe?

[marble crater]

How can she brick things now without locks?

[deft stump]

Think you roll a perfect bolt pistol.

Then you upgrade it.

And it ends at 500 with.

75% ammo, 65% mobility.

[marble crater]

Not Hadron's fault, it tells you the potential stats when you buy it

[buoyant maple]

Headtaker is better than decimator

[deft stump]

The thing is.

[buoyant maple]

Why’re u running Tac axe on psyker again

[deft stump]

It was maxed.

80, 80, 80, 60, 80 before.

[haughty star]

cuz i only want to play psyker lol

[deft stump]

It got bricked when upgrading.

The max stats shifted.

[marble crater]

I think it's more likely you just upgraded the wrong gun

[deft stump]

I only had 1.

Then rest got sacrificed.

[nocturne dust]

[buoyant maple]

Start by like, learning melee

Then you’ll realize Tac axe is around 1/3 of the single target dps of a combat axe then you’ll give up on it, probably

[verbal thistle]

Its a bug thats in the game

[deft stump]

And I always fav perfects.

[verbal thistle]

weapons will change stats when you empower them

[marble crater]

What a weird bug

[verbal thistle]

they "fixed" it in the patch notes

[deft stump]

Still happens.

[verbal thistle]

yup

[haughty star]

lol i melee plenty. thanks for the advise

[deft stump]

Lower rate.

[verbal thistle]

Darktide

[deft stump]

But still.

[buoyant maple]

I’m serious about the second part tho

It’s like x0.35~0.5 of combat axe’s dps vs carapace and unyielding

And I’m pretty sure it’s far too heavy investment to get BM bruiser breakpoints on psyker

[plucky flax]

Thanks I never melee.

[buoyant maple]

Tac axe is really cool vs ragers but psyker pretty much never needs to fight ragers in melee anyway so you kind of neutered one of its strong points

[weary idol]

and even if you do fight them in melee the fuckin' dueling sword, deimos, and force greatsword all one shot them lmao

[deft stump]

Actually true, I saw, just flame staff in melee. Sword is only to block. Sus.

[weary idol]

psyker is flush with good weapons to get ragers to fuck off

[plucky flax]

Me no melee me magic man

[deft stump]

I mean, just stroke slash 3x on Illisi, you can get multiples if lucky.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-sheev-palpatine-unlimited-power-power-force-gif-5073064

[weary idol]

I'm also very fond of trauma staff to CC all of them and then kill them while they're knocked down

[plucky flax]

I stroke me illusy when lonely-- what?

[deft stump]

This is a lie, he uses Deimos.

[plucky flax]

Yeah deimos for havoc actually.

To kill scab captain.

And deflector to run away

[weary idol]

If I wanted to kill scab captains I would personally use chainaxe

rev attack nearly instantly breaking the shield is funny

but that would also mean using chainaxe on havoc which is suspect

[plucky flax]

I have not seen a psyker with chainaxe in havoc yet.

[weary idol]

yeah it's almost like the sticky attacks are a pretty big dealbreaker when hordes have 9 billion hitmass

[plucky flax]

I saw devil claw infantry lasgun yesterday tho

[jovial juniper]

The alternative is a Wrath Chainsword

[deft stump]

Not even Illisi can deal with that dook lul.

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/shaking-cat-shaking-cat-alien-cat-gif-17719290639671130907

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/tweaking-out-black-guy-tweaking-meme-gif-6022943353035016664

[marble crater]

Atlas uses one I think

[weary idol]

It's probably not awful

It gets Thrust and Slaughterer/Headtaker

which helps with the cleave a lot

But it's definitely a mid option at best

[marble crater]

You don't melee a lot in havoc as psyker and the chain attack shreds captain shields

[deft stump]

THe lights with lag is like, autospin everywhere on lower diffs.

[weary idol]

if you aren't meleeing I'm going to kill you

[marble crater]

I said a lot

[weary idol]

if you aren't meleeing a lot I'm going to stare at you judgementally for your cowardice

[deft stump]

Uhhh... Points at Chaos.

Burny stick go burn.

What is melee?

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/leon-chokes-choking-ada-wong-gif-26380793

[marble crater]

I will leave that to the zealots and ogryns, I will burn things and occasionally melee a crusher, mutie or captain

[weary idol]

honestly I probably melee a lot more than most psykers because I don't like fire or ORB staff very much

I use trauma staff all the time though

warp flurry brittleness baby

[deft stump]

I melee better than use trauma, soooooo.

[marble crater]

Doesn't use blaze trauma, hates fire and orb, melees a lot.
Are you sure you are not just a zealot cosplaying as a psyker?

[deft stump]

I use burny stick.

I also like strike.

[weary idol]

i'm a zealot that can shoot lightning from my hands to stun enemies

[deft stump]

What do you mean?

[weary idol]

rather than throwing a dumb rock that explodes to stun enemies

[marble crater]

I meant the gun enjoyer

[deft stump]

Oh.

I just can't trauma.

It just no click in hed.

[marble crater]

Just spam it at your feet

[deft stump]

I have my Illisi in hand at that point.

[weary idol]

I spam it at my feet when the horde is a little too THICK yeah

or they're all climbing a ledge because explosions

[deft stump]

Dodge, stroke, slash, dodge, stroke, slash. Till I run out of dodges and reeeeeeeeeeee.

Maybe it's time for agile uncanny ds4 on psyker.

[plucky flax]

Too traumatic.

[tired estuary]

trauma gave me long covid

[strong gulch]

This is my third psyker. I am not that inveted right now but I get you.

[plucky flax]

But you're slow af and it's pain.

[tired estuary]

then buffed purga gave me longer covid

[plucky flax]

Burga

[strong gulch]

I blew up 2 times because no ER and not actual shriek.

[marble crater]

Yeah, that's why I use my trusty DS4

[strong gulch]

OOP damnation unlcoked.

[magic cipher]

What melee weapons do you guys like with EK staff? I'm thinking Daimos or FGS

[marble crater]

Illisi or FGS

[magic cipher]

For hoard defence?

[marble crater]

Congrats, now you can carry them

[marble crater]

Yes

[magic cipher]

Makes sense, ty 👍 Haven't tried Illisi or MK8 yet but I should give them a go

[marble crater]

MK8 is a bit better for hordes, MK6 for elites. But both can do both, so it's largely just moveset preference

[prime elk]

could also run obscurus

but if you really want to run deimos, you could also make a smite build for horde clear

[magic cipher]

Oh true, I need to try that as well

Was gonna do brain burst for that perk but could do smite

Not sure which would be better since both benefit the weapon

[prime elk]

brain burst is... aight

there's a lot of ways to build for EK, but it really likes venting shriek

[magic cipher]

Yeah was gonna mostly follow the EK build AgentChaos put on youtube but am curious about BB vs Smite

Guess brain burst is good as a long range option too

[marble crater]

EK with KF from Brain Burst is just fun

[magic cipher]

Would be very nice vs carapace when it goes off

[marble crater]

I used to run smite with it but I hardly used it, so might as well use brain burst and KF as passive damage that procs from the staff

[magic cipher]

I was mostly considering smite since one of the smite perks benefits EK I think 🤔

[magic cipher]

Thanks 😁

[prime elk]

eh you can skip most of the smite subtalents

[marble crater]

Not sure if In Fire Reborn might be better than Psychic Vampire in this build though

[prime elk]

yeah i generally take fire reborn with EK

and skip warp battery

because you want to be ulting all the time, you're not going to benefit from warp battery much

and then i'd put a point into empathetic evasion

[marble crater]

That works, I just dodge my ranged problems away

[magic cipher]

Are there any ads that EK is weak against?

[prime elk]

not really

the horde clear is mid

so maybe massed ragers

and then the carapace dps isn't anything to write home about either

[magic cipher]

I see, thanks 🤔 FGS sounds good then as an extra all rounder

[marble crater]

But you can kite a group of crushers to some extend by stunning them and dodging backwards

[prime elk]

yeah the natural stun is quite nice

[magic cipher]

Sounds ideal! I'm not the best at meleeing crushers without getting pancaked lol

[prime elk]

FGS is slow, i prefer force swords / ds / knife for mobility

FGS is good as your "primary" weapon, but as a sidearm, it's not great

[magic cipher]

True, and I would like to run deflector tbh

So maybe Illisi

[marble crater]

Same with a few ragers, so mass ragers kite them to the zealot and run away

[prime elk]

yeah and you'd really want to pick up the 10% attack speed node

if you take fgs, so that's extra point tax

[magic cipher]

Will probably do Illisi or Obscurus

Daimos would be nice for boss damage though

Tough choices

[dense flume]

How come zealot channel never talks about zealot stuff? Or darktide for that matter lol...

Everytime I take a gander it's always gifs and memes

[strong gulch]

We got real shriek now.

oh feck

now it's real

[fiery stratus]

Scream only runs ezpz

[strong gulch]

🫡

The smite psyker kept everything spread out. 😭

Trauma sad.

I did steal a lot of the purg psyker's SB, so I'm part of the problem too.

[zinc phoenix]

Idk, but they’ve been like that since beta

Each channel really does have its own culture and crew

It’s not always the same people but it’s consistently different people for each class channel and has been for years

And the culture has also been consistent

[dense flume]

Seems that way heh. Mid 20s on my zealot so I'm doing what I did here, which is basically lurk in every so often to see what people are talking about regarding talents, weapons, builds etc. But I never seem to catch anything like that there xD

Makes sense, people tend to gravitate towards a sort of "home channel" IME

[strange jewel]

Question

Can I kill myself with this? at 100%?

Eh this should be able to proc in training area lets see

[zinc phoenix]

No

[deft stump]

Take on Illisi as well for funnies.

[patent mango]

force greatsword is real!!!!!!!

[turbid inlet]

What's the dump stat for EK staff?

[deft stump]

This is Zealot and Psyker mains. Zealot chat is for other games and sus stuff.

[patent mango]

zealot brains fried post ds addiction

[nocturne dust]

Not true

[patent mango]

fr?

[nocturne dust]

Zealot chat has always had brain rot

[patent mango]

its over..

[deft stump]

Knoife.

[patent mango]

how do people enjoy knoife anyways

[zinc phoenix]

Zealot chat was notoriously weird before anyone could play the game and has stayed that way

[deft stump]

ADHD, SPEED SPEED SPEED, STAB STAB STAB.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/wild-gif-5304082

[deft stump]

To be fair, zealots also show up in Vet mains. The more sane ones.

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve spent the least time in vet channel

It’s white bread af

[deft stump]

I mean, is vets.

[zinc phoenix]

Ogryn chat i stg is the same people for years

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmmm bread

https://tenor.com/view/dungeonmeshi-deliciousindungeon-senshi-dwarf-bread-gif-13035916651274818605

[deft stump]

I never really looked at Oggy mains since I cba to even lvl Oggy atm.

It just feels like being dragged into 40 havoc but it's just malice.

You get hit so much for unknown reasons.

The dodge feels bad.

[zinc phoenix]

I mostly play shield tauntgryn

The weapons with good dodge on og all are bad

[deft stump]

The block feels bad (Spoiled by kinetic deflection.).

[nocturne dust]

That's the real issue, that dodges are so vital and there are so many things you cannot avoid without a dodge, and Oggies have crap dodges

[zinc phoenix]

Like bull butcher is insane dodge

[deft stump]

Forced heavys feels weird.

[zinc phoenix]

And bb is insane bad

[patent mango]

forced heavies stinky and gunlugger eats all the ammo

[magic cipher]

Does Illisi need the full 60 warp resist? My current FS has 31

[patent mango]

then theres no build variety....

[cloud lodge]

Dump stat on assault chainaxe? Please

[verbal thistle]

defense

[cloud lodge]

Danke

[deft stump]

Thus, cba. I wanna do stupid grenade stuff after silly vet revolver stuff.

Psykers have so many builds 5 slots isn't enough.

Zealots just... random button spam go bs.

[zinc phoenix]

In fairness we don’t really have more build variety than in the og skill tree

It’s almost all false choice

[deft stump]

True.

But you can still play in different ways, even if dumb.

Like, you have 2 good melees and like 3 good range on Oggy.

Others are either bad or just outclassed so hard.

Well, technically is just, get used to the slab.

[patent mango]

i cant believe people can use ogryn power maul

[deft stump]

You need it to not feel like paper due to being massive.

[patent mango]

it f eels so bad

[deft stump]

And guns is like twinlinked, single and kickback.

Depends on what you want your gun to do.

Also, swap time is basically like swapping to bolter or flamer.

Atrocious.

[nocturne dust]

It ain't that bad

[deft stump]

It just feels that way.

[patent mango]

rumbler is kinda good

but it has uh

3 ammo

[deft stump]

So grenades in gun form.

[patent mango]

ripper gun i've seen someone use it

specifically for suppression..........

and never agai

oh my god i forgot grenadier gauntlet existed

[deft stump]

Maybe can opener.

[patent mango]

noooo

[ruby chasm]

mkV ripper is fine, you can actually kills stuff at range with it not super sure about the other two

[zinc phoenix]

It’s the most hipster weapon choice in the game

[patent mango]

it does like 2 damage

[deft stump]

Isn't it better to get the new single then?

[zinc wedge]

Is psyker one big plasma gun or smth

I'm new to psyker

[patent mango]

idk i just stab people

[deft stump]

IDK, I Illisi and bubble. Maybe burn some ragers.

[dense flume]

I've been enjoying recon and fgs lately. Don't judge me

[magic cipher]

Anyone know of good ways to get more diamantine?

[nocturne dust]

Play standard dams

🤷‍♂️

[magic cipher]

Thanks

[nocturne dust]

Use knife and hunt for loot

[dense flume]

I thought havocs were kind of the best way to get mats?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/jacksepticeye-speed-gif-20515611

[dense flume]

Or was that just a "I needs it now" kind of thing...

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you're already at havoc 40, sure

They're trash otherwise

[dense flume]

Gotcha.

[deft stump]

You get only plasteels then.

[nocturne dust]

If you're at havoc 40, you only need like 1 a week to maintain fantastic amounts of weekly income

[deft stump]

From the heretical idols, lul.

[dense flume]

Oh that is trash...

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, you don't get anything outside the weekly reward

[deft stump]

Unless you can consistently do 40.

I clearly can't.

[dense flume]

Yeah I'm not even in a position to find out lol

[magic cipher]

Haven't even tried havoc yet haha

Been too busy finding what builds I enjoy at auric maelstrom

[dense flume]

I mean I can do damnation, only started havocs this week when I found out they start east

Oh yeah aurics, too, derp

[magic cipher]

Made a new sword for Illisi but it drained most of my diamantine sadge

Need to get more to make this EK staff when I hit rank 19 mastery

[deft stump]

1-10 is just malice+.

[potent echo]

Havoc 40 did I get 50k plasteel or smth? I forgot how big the stash was

[deft stump]

I know 20 is like 19k or something and 4k or something.

[clear heath]

i think it was like 35k plas

something around 20-30k dia too

basically never need to worry about mats again after reaching havoc 30+

[prime elk]

dockets on the other hand...

[deft stump]

GL with that.

[magic cipher]

Using Illisi for hoard clear is very fun lol

[deft stump]

Ordo Docket bonus best curio blessing.

[turbid inlet]

What's the dump stat for EK staff?

[plucky flax]

Warp resistance.

[ripe bear]

dump stat blaze greatsword?

[nocturne dust]

warp res

[haughty star]

knife is based as hell on zealot

uncanny+the bleed on crit one

[nocturne dust]

spoken like a feral knife zealot

[potent echo]

I still prefer vet knife

His talents gives very good breakpoints

Oneshot shotgunners without crit etc

[prime elk]

and then there's zealot running around with a constant 70-90% crit chance without the use of any abilities lol

[deft stump]

Stabbity stabby stab stab?

[magic cipher]

Just out of interest, does anyone know how many ticks of damage EK staff does per blast and if it varies with charge length?

[haughty star]

for me it's the attack speed with zealot and the basically 100 percent crit once piety is up

become mostly immortal and everything either dies or bleeds to death

[wicked hornet]

like @nocturne dust said. run normal Damnation and equip a knife and go looting. It's fun for me BC I usally also get to carry newer ppl lol

also you mentioned EK staff. EK dominates in normal Damnation so it'll be good practice with the weapon

[prime elk]

play havoc

[nocturne dust]

no

[ripe bear]

perks and blessings on greatsword?>

[nocturne dust]

carapace, unyielding, whatever blessings you like (except Blazing Spirit and Warp Slice)

[ripe bear]

what blessings for dps?

[nocturne dust]

shred, riposte, unstable power

unstable power is really good if you can keep your peril up

[magic cipher]

I actually did a run with it earlier and it was very easy haha, thanks for the advice 🙂

[sullen whale]

Why the fuck bursters ignore shove

the one time I go to do it, like yep ofc

[nocturne dust]

Sometimes the forced push they're supposed to experience decides to not

[sullen whale]

Yeah and it's why I was shooting the last 20 all game 😭

[nocturne dust]

It's not that common tho. Normally it's just another teammate pushing them earlier which messes with the forced stagger

[dense flume]

Is max burn at 76 or 78%?

For inferno staff

[potent echo]

76

Also inspect to see 14

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/lEoM1V

@nocturne dust @plucky flax

Red numbers are bleed

[plucky flax]

New meme found

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/warhammer-40k-darktide/66ORoV

[wind spruce]

Meme? More like ultimate strategy

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark gonna make bleed sword real before fire sword

[wind spruce]

I did 200k bleed damage out of 640k total lmao

[nocturne dust]

Auric mael?

[wind spruce]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

I wonder how efficient it is in normal FGS play

[unborn isle]

hi im wondering what the "good" players are doing with their meele

it looks like they are attack but then canceling the attack

[wind spruce]

pretty damn efficient I reckon

you can get 5 off in a row with shriek

[nocturne dust]

Quell/swap/sprint cancel

[wind spruce]

and just popping a couple into a horde lets you mow them down really easy

[nocturne dust]

Although you don't really have to do cancels

[nocturne dust]

well I mean if you just use the warp slice 'normally', like how a normal FGS player would, instead of spamming it

[wind spruce]

only 4 stacks of bleed isnt huge

[nocturne dust]

True

[wind spruce]

even if you build your charge up normally you could just use two back to back

[nocturne dust]

Bleed itself isn't that great too. It's probably just the sheer AoE application doing most of the work.

[wind spruce]

absolutely

[nocturne dust]

Well, without rending.

[dense flume]

Some weapon attacks give movement speed that you can use for, well, more movement speed. Guessing that's what you're seeing?

[unborn isle]

lemme try to find a example

[dense flume]

Just need some context, are they actively fighting? Could just be a cancel for a weapon combo

[potent echo]

Block cancelling is a thing for some weapons

[unborn isle]

@dense flumei sent u context in dms

[radiant frigate]

is the wave applying bleed from puncture

[cosmic sigil]

Playing with Dew!!

[strong gulch]

out in the wild. peak 14% WR

that quell tho

[wind spruce]

It sure is

So fun

[radiant frigate]

much to consider

like having a bleed shriek

[wind spruce]

It's pretty insane horde clear

Two level 0 charge warp slices kills all non-elites when you have some buffs up

[wind spruce]

Just queued into him randomly!

[weary idol]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-staring-cat-cat-mr-fresh-fresh-gif-4714710619997780774

bolt pistol continues to be the best gun in the game if you don't use it

[deft stump]

It's still okay to use it on annoying far away dooks.

[hearty wolf]

I didn't realise how dogshit it was until someone posted their scoreboard breakdown which included damage by type

[deft stump]

I think it's just the 16 cap not being high enough to really do anything but kill walkers.

It takes 2 frags to clean up.

And IDK if the point blank boom can even add more stacks with puncture.

[weary idol]

i'm curious about maximizing this for another dumb meme build

oh gross can the wave not crit for blazing spirit without warp slice

oh worse it crits but doesn't even apply blazing spirit

fatshark why

[deft stump]

I don't even think getting it applied blazing. I think that was the common issue.

Which is why it's funny it applied puncture.

[weary idol]

So the blessing would be puncture on bolt pistol

then unstable power is the only one sword that'd matter

[deft stump]

Yep. Melee only psyker jokes.

[weary idol]

so building tree like this initially

[compact cargo]

[weary idol]

yes I know it's fuckin ugly

it's a meme build okay

it's fine that it's ugly

[strong gulch]

got it. meme. 🫡

[compact cargo]

It's not that ugly

It's a beutiful duck

It just lacks 3 wounds and the talent to not go horizontal when kabooming

[strong gulch]

oh? Then in that case.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dba7173-f64c-4b4f-9213-94268e99e856/no-keystone-fire-sword-now-with-crit-chance-its-bad-but-play-it-anyways

[compact cargo]

5 wound explosion Psyker

[deft stump]

When corruption means bigger boom?

So I can be bad and actually suck but still do things?

[radiant frigate]

would you make a damage dumpstat illisi for fire sword or nay

[strong gulch]

An Incredible idea. Why didn't I think of that??

[radiant frigate]

actually just make a full dumpstat illisi

everything as low as possible

so you have the maximum chance of not killing on crit

more fire

[strong gulch]

Got something to gameble for.

[wind spruce]

Take battle med, the procs let you spam warp spice more

[weary idol]

why would I want to randomly lose warp rider damage during scriers

[radiant frigate]

more like extending scrier's

[weary idol]

honestly you know what this playstyle is

it's just the pre-nerf kantrael shotgun

[strong gulch]

From an earlier game. This was regular T5.

Leif left after awhile.

[weary idol]

it kills elites a LOT faster than I thought it would though

it's a meme build, but it actually does horde clear astonishingly well

especially mixed hordes since the beam just goes through the thick fucks that usually make them obnoxious

[radiant frigate]

woe, internal bleeding be upon ye

[weary idol]

also it staggers which is more than the purgatus does

[strong gulch]

Purg staggers everything short of ogryn enemies and monsters/ bosses.

[radiant frigate]

new greatsword meta achieved

[weary idol]

and ragers which is the important pain point with it

fgs wave staggers ragers

(also maulers)

[strong gulch]

purg does satgger them

*stagger

[radiant frigate]

at least the puff does

[strong gulch]

ye

[wind spruce]

That's not how that works hahaha

Your peril will go back up again bc scriers...

[radiant frigate]

how long can you keep scrying without blinking

with bcob, reality anchor, ER, inner tranquility, battle med

[sullen whale]

Why it look like my DD stacks are bugged like only giving 1 that last 1 second when it should be 2 for 10 seconds

So confused unless it's just icons bugged

[strong gulch]

Yeah it's a bug.

Too many buffs and the icons just give up. lmao

It's just a visual bug tho. You have the stacks.

The DD buff that you see then dissapear is the speed buff.

[radiant frigate]

^

true fact

[deft stump]

I mean, bonus missing icon entire run.

Cos the game gave up on tracking my warp charges.

[wind spruce]

You're also skipping half the damage potential by losing DD, malefic and perfect timing

[radiant frigate]

mfw the timing is imperfect

[weary idol]

disrupt destiny damage is lower than 6 warp charges

though it is less points invested

perfect timing I don't really have crit chance, but yeah malefic is a good point

[wind spruce]

You aren't going to have those charges most of the time

[sullen whale]

Running this rn, FGS & Voidstrike

[wind spruce]

Scriers literally provides 20% crit...

[sullen whale]

wish kinetic flayer was lower than 15 seconds CD tho :(

[weary idol]

well in practice I actually have them 24/7 unless I pop scriers on a way too small enemy group

but okey

[wind spruce]

What even is the point of all the CDR then

[weary idol]

because I get back to 6 charges faster than I run out of scriers most of the time?

or well soon enough after ending it

scriers doesn't cool down when it's still active because fatshark are cowards

[strong gulch]

Psyk's aura can

[weary idol]

anyways adjusted build a bit because you did make good point about malefic and perfect timing

[wind spruce]

You also have 17.5% crit flat. Without even having scriers active that's enough to maintain perfect timing at full stacks

Nice

Much prettier

[autumn smelt]

but its lingering effect exists

[weary idol]

I mean I'm not actually swinging the sword

most of the time

[autumn smelt]

meaning functionally itts downtime is only 15 seconds

which is tiny

[wind spruce]

Everything crits

[autumn smelt]

before any cdr

[radiant frigate]

another case of "I'm going to sacrifice one damage buff for another damage buff so i can then sacrifice it again sooner"

[deft stump]

CDR needs to work on the 15 secs flayer thing.

[radiant frigate]

yippie

[weary idol]

I am trying to min/max a meme build I know damn well DD would be more consistent

but consistency isn't funny

[radiant frigate]

what meme are we making

long gaze?

[autumn smelt]

are you trying to go for maximum damage potential

like the absolute maximum you can possibly have, regardless of how often its reaching that

[radiant frigate]

illisi crusher onetaps?

[wind spruce]

They're doing my warp slice bleed meme

(And yes it's mine )

[radiant frigate]

maximum bleed damage warp slice meme?

[sullen whale]

actually it's from this vid ☝️🤓
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhB3gxPV3hU

[radiant frigate]

would shattering impact also apply to the wave

[sullen whale]

Lights out is ASS btw

[wind spruce]

The lightbulb was invented in two places at once

Lights out is

[sullen whale]

Silo cluster no one can even get past the first 20% of the level lmao

[strong gulch]

When did shred icon changed??

[deft stump]

Still easier than vent purge snipers or farts farts farts.

[strong gulch]

@radiant frigate Fixed. 🫡

[sullen whale]

Damage dump, pog!!

[radiant frigate]

it's for flame sword

ok stupid idea but what if bloodthirsty

[strong gulch]

Now I need to REALLY gable for like 20 damage lmao

*gamble

[radiant frigate]

or you gamble for the lowest stats in everything except mobility

[deft stump]

Let's go gambling. Aww dangit.

[sullen whale]

Nurgle spat me off a cliff into 12 ragers

tuah'd me fr

[strong gulch]

I saw 8 SB stacks on a groaner.

[autumn smelt]

shreds icon has always been that for psyker specific weapons like force swords

[potent echo]

Aww dangit

[autumn smelt]

cuz ofc

its different for everything else tho

[strong gulch]

I don't remember it like this. My memory bad.

Yeah. Memory bad.

[deft stump]

No luck?

[autumn smelt]

tbf how often do you see people running shred on the normal FS

[strong gulch]

TRUE

[sullen whale]

greatsword

[autumn smelt]

speaking of
im never in psyker chat so i dont really know but i think the obscurus rework went under peoples radars
cuz that thing is actually stupid good now but i never see anyone talk about it