#psyker-class

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nocturne dust
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80% would make it mandatory

hearty wolf
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Do you have the % peril

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Just every 20%, 5%?

fathom adder
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Deimos is fine too

strong gulch
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If your tree has warp splitting and you keep your peril up, unstable + crit blessing can be pretty nice.

Otherwise general rec is wrath + choose your own adventure.

nocturne dust
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You are at max at 80% peril

hearty wolf
nocturne dust
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gunker is meleeker is assailker

hearty wolf
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So this with BFG and Vraaks

radiant frigate
strong gulch
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But there are some gunker builds that don't take assail.

radiant frigate
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i ate a potato today

hearty wolf
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Well I'm not taking smite, that's for sure

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And going Bb seems kinda far

strong gulch
radiant frigate
fathom adder
radiant frigate
hearty wolf
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Okay

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Unstable power shred

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I use this

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I slice the demons

fathom adder
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And sometimes you just want (need) to throw a smite in the general direction of a burster you can hear but can't see

radiant frigate
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yes slice the demons

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slice them goodly

prime elk
strong gulch
hearty wolf
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I am ready

radiant frigate
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slice them bigly

hearty wolf
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Wait

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that's wrath

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fuck

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it is done

strong gulch
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Also yeah, psyk aura is great, It hurts to give it up for assail.

hearty wolf
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I just want to use sword is all

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Is okay

strong gulch
radiant frigate
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i love bigsword propaganda

dense flume
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Bubble still blocks gunner shots if they're inside and you're outside yeah?

radiant frigate
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bubble is a projectile-free zone

prime elk
nocturne dust
marble crater
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Doesn't it straight up delete the projectiles in the bubble? KEKW_ogryn

fathom adder
radiant frigate
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Yes

hearty wolf
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Holy fuck

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this 2 taps crushers

nocturne dust
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si

strong gulch
marble crater
radiant frigate
hearty wolf
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Why do we have staffs

radiant frigate
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idk

hearty wolf
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when we can have bladed staffs

fathom adder
nocturne dust
strong gulch
nocturne dust
radiant frigate
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big sword propaganda going strong

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ecstatic

hearty wolf
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Does it not feel suboptimal to run FGS in Havoc tho cos you'd probs prefer to run your staff, no?

strong gulch
nocturne dust
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If Big Sword is so great, where is Big Sword 2? Checkmate Big Sworders

fathom adder
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Fatshark can refuse to add any weapon they don't feel like adding, and say "GW said no 🤷" and it would be believable

nocturne dust
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Staff is stronger than sword

cosmic sigil
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Or do you not use that talent because you have wrath

clear heath
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it's fun though

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realistically dueling sword + inferno should just win in damage

hearty wolf
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Hmm.

dense flume
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What if you're running gun psyker and trying to conserve ammo?

fathom adder
hearty wolf
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I'm going to play with shit psykers and post the fact I have higher damage numbers to "prove" it's better

quartz barn
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wanted to make a rending trauma. but got this pogryn

marble crater
radiant frigate
upper sun
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are we doing GAMES?

hearty wolf
strong gulch
marble crater
radiant frigate
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i am worst at best

nocturne dust
fathom adder
strong gulch
cosmic sigil
radiant frigate
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you guys actually play the game?
i just spout bigsword propaganda on discord

strong gulch
nocturne dust
strong gulch
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just take
unless no want take

hearty wolf
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If I am gunker, I guess I can drop unyielding then

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Since brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

strong gulch
hearty wolf
strong gulch
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gotcha

hearty wolf
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Flak I guess xd?

strong gulch
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Cara + elites maybe?

deft stump
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Btw, wrath on big sword gud right?

nocturne dust
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uuuuhhhhhh

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probably elite damage

hearty wolf
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alright

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eleete sla4yer

nocturne dust
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although

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unyielding is still nice for ogryns

hearty wolf
strong gulch
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Maybe flak for special arc?? Does it matter where that hits??

upper sun
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fix your sleep schedule

nocturne dust
clear heath
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I take elites + unyielding
cara + unyielding is probably good too

nocturne dust
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you can't shoot them

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they have shields

hearty wolf
deft stump
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Wrath gud or swap?

radiant frigate
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elites unyielding is cool too

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
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probably should get on that actually

nocturne dust
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It's already time for me to be awake anyway KEKW_ogryn

clear heath
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bulwarks and reapers are both evil, and bosses in havoc are so common anyways
unyielding is just really good value for me

radiant frigate
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mfw captains are not unyielding

upper sun
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oh no they yield pretty easily

radiant frigate
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(it doesn't matter since they are just a giant timesink either way)

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a captain in the middle of a horde is concerning

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a captain alone gets bullied

nocturne dust
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Anything alone gets bullied

hearty wolf
deft stump
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I guess keeping wrath should be fine then.

nocturne dust
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It turns out

clear heath
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yeah i've never had a situation where the plan is like "we gotta burst down the captain quickly to survive"

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it takes too long anyways

radiant frigate
nocturne dust
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having 4 guys hopped up on drugs with big swords is really bad for most things made of flesh

clear heath
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if you see a captain in a crowd, the answer is to kill the crowd

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
clear heath
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at least for unyielding, bursting down a beast of nurgle is sometimes useful

radiant frigate
nocturne dust
radiant frigate
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captains when met with 4 rejects undisturbed just sit on the floor

radiant frigate
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i do not like thammer

upper sun
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thammer good

nocturne dust
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Thammer makes me feel things in my cold, dead heart

upper sun
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ok im gonna go for a smoke break

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@nocturne dust THEN we thammer

fathom adder
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Me: "Today I will try Thammer"

AI Director: "Fuck you for not having better dodges"

Me: "Thanks, I will return to using mechanical advantage to offset lack of skill"

stuck sinew
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Thammer tickling captain shields saddens me

radiant frigate
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thammer not bonking hordes saddens me

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or was that fixed

prime elk
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wdym? 🤔

radiant frigate
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does it still overkill the fuck out of the first target and stagger the rest?

verbal thistle
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It stops at the first hit of armor

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and elites I think

upper sun
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+2

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do the kids these days not know what +2 means?

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😭

nocturne dust
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I mean I only got it through the context clues of us being in a squad that needs 2 more KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
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😭

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fuck it

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lets go

strong gulch
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clad said I can't 😡

upper sun
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i mean

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@nocturne dust dodge

nocturne dust
upper sun
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DODGE

nocturne dust
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dodge wat

upper sun
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the mission 😭

patent mango
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overhead

upper sun
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@strong gulchokie you can join now

strong gulch
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loading

upper sun
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dodge = queue dodger
+2/+1 means we need 2 or 1 players for a full strike team

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you people need to learn your league terms

buoyant maple
upper sun
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@strong gulch join ours

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and bring the person with you

strong gulch
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Maybe because I sent one

upper sun
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AAAAA

nocturne dust
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It says I can't join you either

upper sun
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game wont let anything happen

strong gulch
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Umm. I think I broke the game or it broke itself.

nocturne dust
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I think that's Clad specifically

upper sun
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I CANT EVEN LEAVE THE STRIKE TEAM

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

strong gulch
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ummm

nocturne dust
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It shows Clad is in a strike team that doesn't exist

upper sun
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lemme just switch chars

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maybe thatll fix it

marble crater
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Clad doesn't exist staregryn

nocturne dust
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That won't fix it I bet

upper sun
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FATSHARK PLEASE

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PLEASE

nocturne dust
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cuz you don't leave a strike team when switching

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just restart

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🤷‍♂️

upper sun
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FUCK IT im restarting

strong gulch
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brb gotta go to the bathroom

upper sun
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we did it reddit

marble crater
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I feel like I was right there with you, what a roller-coaster of emotions

upper sun
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"whatever you feel like carrying in" ~ @strong gulch
knowing full well he had the most of everything in the previous game

nocturne dust
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I had least damage taken chadgryn

upper sun
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as marty

nocturne dust
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Yes chadgryn

nocturne dust
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on 180 ping too

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oh lawd it's still 180

deft stump
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What the... The Deimos can 1 shot damnation reapers on a crit headshot?

prime elk
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not a huge surprise when illisi can one-shot crushers under the right circumstances

deft stump
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Yes, but this is on a ranged build that doesn't go anywhere near scryer.

prime elk
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yeah turns out the fs dedicated to deleting big guys is good at deleting big guys KEKW_ogryn

tired estuary
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It still has Funny finesse modifiers

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even without buffs

deft stump
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But the Obscurus also hits like a truck?

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I'm actually legit surprised it can also do the same.

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On just a single H1.

strong gulch
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Void got close to 1m

nocturne dust
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@upper sun How do I have less damage taken than everyone but potato angymorrow

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I'm on 180 ping

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on meleeker

upper sun
nocturne dust
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I literally hear the sound cues after the attack

strong gulch
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How do I have least.... wait I dipped out some. lmao

nocturne dust
deft stump
nocturne dust
deft stump
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I guess if I can't hit anything, they can't hit me either.

nocturne dust
upper sun
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okie i think i gtg im too tired for more

strong gulch
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Btw my cat jumped on my and started pulling stuff off my desk then cut. rude

nocturne dust
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ggs

strong gulch
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ggs

strong gulch
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that's enough for me too

nocturne dust
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They'll bother you and won't leave chadgryn

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(not highly biased dog person)

strong gulch
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Husky being mega dog

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I used to a pupper. I miss him.

nocturne dust
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I do love FGS tho uwugryn

strong gulch
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I had to give him up tho. He was badly allergic to something in my home and we could not figure out what it was.

deft stump
nocturne dust
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See I train them to not bonk the bits

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Those are important bits after all

deft stump
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But she's just excited.

nocturne dust
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Excitement is no excuse chadgryn

upper sun
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i love how cats just refuse to be trained

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they can be taught to do stuff they want

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but never trained

deft stump
upper sun
tired estuary
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I got a laser pointer so I can p much direct my cat anywhere on commanf like an rts unit

nocturne dust
upper sun
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i just looked at it and pushed it at the cats eye level and he started doing it

tired estuary
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Like a starcraft 1 unit so the pathfinding is bad and breaks sometimes if I don't micro but

fathom adder
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Something to do with dogs coexisting with humans and being domesticated for tens of thousands of years, while the housecat is basically just the African Wild Cat that showed up a few thousand years ago when humans started farming -> storing grain -> attracting mice and we just kind of let them hang around to eat the mice

deft stump
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Cats just stay around for easy noms.

tired estuary
upper sun
tired estuary
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thats free protein dude

deft stump
upper sun
strong gulch
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I want roasted for fried crickets or something so bad.

deft stump
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Honestly, if i could stream when I was a kid, would have freaked ppl out, heh.

strong gulch
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Valid lmao

upper sun
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🚬 ill eat people before bugs

marble crater
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Snowpiercer chadgryn

upper sun
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🤔

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im pretty sure it was bugs in one version of that and people in another

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put me in the one with captain america chadgryn

marble crater
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The Snowpiercer TV show is on my to watch list, the movie was pretty nice

upper sun
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the movie was really good tho

ornate hamlet
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Question: how’s the Chainaxe compared to the Blaze Greatsword on Psyker? Specifically the one with only strikethrough heavies and only relentless lights (forgot which mk that is)

ornate hamlet
jovial juniper
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The horde clear is pretty wack considering the cap

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But it should have better boss damage than those force swords

split lance
upper sun
split lance
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omw omw omw omw omw omw omw omw omw omw omw omw omw omw omw

upper sun
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we can split a homeless person

verbal sequoia
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Is the shock maul good? I’ve been using a 1 handed force sword but wanna branch into other weapons.

split lance
upper sun
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fine but you're getting the bottom part

young cliff
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Small question, aside from recon and heavy laspistol and the revolver what other non-staff ranged weapons are good for the class?

young cliff
ornate hamlet
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oh mb

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Can’t read

young cliff
ornate hamlet
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In that case Vigilant Autogun fr

unreal bridge
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What’s the psykers best weapons?

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I see everyone use the staff

strong gulch
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Any two of you want some low level havoc assists?

dense flume
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There's 4 staffs 🤔

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Staves?

jovial juniper
verbal thistle
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Melee

jovial juniper
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Silly
Melee psyker isn't real

verbal thistle
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Like every weapon is good on psyker because of the damage buffs

shell igloo
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My kingdom for a new staff variant, even just a port of VT2 assets

coarse vale
wind spruce
marble crater
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You only took 2 maybe 3, and saved me from more than that (which I didn't even see) KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
marble crater
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And I learned that it looks like I play without a care as to what is happening around me KEKW_ogryn

mental grail
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Bruh wtf

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every time a teammate dies, everyone else takes it as a cue to fucking bolt off to the next objective at lightspeed

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can we slow down to take advantage of the reduced spawns for like 5 seconds please

hearty wolf
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But splitting up is fun

fathom adder
marble crater
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Actually is as long as you can deal with the enemies KEKW_ogryn

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Was this in high havoc by chance? There is no reduced spawns if someone goes down or dies

inland ice
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ok what is strat for bulwarks with fgs

marble crater
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Push attack to open the shield and then swing and/or stab them

jaunty tiger
inland ice
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i be getting mogged by multiple

clear heath
wind spruce
clear heath
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okay don't actually jump in combat, but like if you're on some stairs or something, being tall helps

marble crater
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Kite them to the zealot

wind spruce
plucky flax
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Ignore them and let team deal with

hearty wolf
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@plucky flax btw you're in my youtube feed for some reason

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why

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what has the algorithm done

quick tulip
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Math got smarterer

plucky flax
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You can put ignore on me.

hearty wolf
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I wouldn't do that ;-;

plucky flax
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I'm not forcing you to do anything pepesurrender

marble crater
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"Don't recommend this channel"

mental grail
plucky flax
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I ping them then put enemy here ping then run away peepoFatRun

marble crater
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This is the way

mental grail
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I do that, and assume the vet with krak or melee zealot has it, only to turn around to see a crusher overhead at the last second.

celest valve
strong gulch
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toe shots for the win

marble crater
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I was today years old when I learned that purgatus doesn't go through bulwark shields and I should target their feet

plucky flax
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I shoot over their heads

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The torrent is big enough to clip it

marble crater
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Do I need to be tall enough for that or can you do it with mini psyker?

plucky flax
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Should be tall enough to melee easier

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Why you want to be short?

celest valve
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also that reminds me of talking to someone here who said that mk6 push stab hits the torso of enemies while mk3 hits the head stare

marble crater
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I'm not short, but this was easier than asking "does it work when I am 2-3 ticks above the average default height" Sitgryn

deft stump
celest valve
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i think there's a mod that lets you adjust height

deft stump
celest valve
deft stump
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The Chirugeon?

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Just modify appearance.

celest valve
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oh that might have been outdated unsure

deft stump
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It's in the base game.

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I'm too lazy to mod.

marble crater
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The update to change everything about your character was very nice

celest valve
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i stubbornly refuse to use it after overhearing talk in the lobby about rannick installing backdoors using it colbert

marble crater
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And if you took a break around then you wouldn't know about it either, like some people missed the crafting update and try to buy the marks KEKW_ogryn

patent mango
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mark just depends on chance keep buying

marble crater
patent mango
deft stump
plucky flax
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Gonna keep that name when back to eu too and get flamed peepoAsian

unreal bridge
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Do the staffs have different marks?

wooden sand
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No

unreal bridge
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Alright

ornate hamlet
plucky flax
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I am blending in. whatthefuck_heresy

plucky flax
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Something something sheep in wolves clothing.

deep linden
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Is there a mod the lowers the psyker alternate ability effect?

plucky flax
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You can try custom flames.

fiery stratus
hearty wolf
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Think it was just lag xd

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Or maybe that's finally the new modifier

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Unkillable specials

last path
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hey spacewizards, I've been told this node was bugged. does anybody know if this is still the case?

last path
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how is it bugged? just doesn't work at all or?

hearty wolf
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@nocturne dust I found a youtuber commenter with the same pfp

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immersion broken

celest valve
last path
celest valve
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sometimes, yes, a node that does nothing is better than less peril generated

last path
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sad, hope they fix it soon

celest valve
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it's a one word fix, so

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(not even line, lol)

hearty wolf
deft stump
last path
deft stump
hearty wolf
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I'm down to play if anyone wants to. Otherwise will probably play some StS or TFD

fiery stratus
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@hearty wolf i've got time for a couple

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got 2 p tho brb

hearty wolf
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kk

fiery stratus
hearty wolf
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@strong gulch @nocturne dust @broken carbon @radiant frigate

fiery stratus
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Maelstrom les gooooo

strong gulch
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I shouldn't. I've been up for about 36 hours.

hearty wolf
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Why

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did you not go to sleep

fiery stratus
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Jfc'

strong gulch
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Ask my brain that question. Sitgryn

fiery stratus
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I slept like 9 hours in a 3 day span, finally died lastnight and slept a solid 8 before work

hearty wolf
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also

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"I shouldn't"

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Not that you won't

strong gulch
strong gulch
deft stump
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Pretty sure it's like you hit eepy, but then it goes over and whelp, can't sleep anymore.

languid tusk
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disregard this message I just want to see my invite code

subtle harbor
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Toughness makes me wanna kms. I want my thp back

languid tusk
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reject toughness, embrace hp

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282hp psyker here we go

subtle harbor
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With how much shit feels like it just ignores toughness, i might

subtle harbor
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“Yeah damage will hit your toughness first. Except from fire and melee and snipers and maulers and crushers and mutants and dogs and”

broken carbon
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snipers just deal a ton of toughness damage

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at 100% toughness, melee is fully absorbed by toughness

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75% toughness, 25% of that melee damage goes into health, the rest absorbed by toughness

magic cipher
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Is empowered psyonics with brain burst viable at higher difficulties? Tempted to try it instead of warp siphon

broken carbon
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not really

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well

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kinda

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but it does fall off pretty heavily

magic cipher
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I see, thanks 🙂

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I'll stick with warp siphon then

hearty wolf
subtle harbor
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I’m debating on just getting 3 21% health curios and fuckin maxing that shit out

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Just going absolutely balls to the wall on health

hearty wolf
nocturne dust
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suuuuuurrrreeee

hearty wolf
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We in vc

nocturne dust
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which one

hearty wolf
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69 iu thinm

broken carbon
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hello to you too

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whoever said hello

magic cipher
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Anyone have any advice on how to become one of those people who can clutch auric maelstroms? I see Zealots do it a lot but I have a hard time surviving the same way on the inferno staff builds

nocturne dust
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annnnnddd DCed because I joined a VC KEKW_ogryn

broken carbon
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and knowing where specials are going to be coming from

hearty wolf
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^

broken carbon
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so you can kill them before they're a threat

hearty wolf
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A lot of it is also about finding a loop if you're stuck with a boss

broken carbon
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also true

hearty wolf
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Also don't be impatient

magic cipher
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Awesome thanks 🙂 Guess I just need practice

broken carbon
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yeah

hearty wolf
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It really just is practice

broken carbon
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it comes with experience

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also, pay attention to sound cues

magic cipher
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Always listening out for pox bursters 🤕

prime elk
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until the audio doesn't play for one of them KEKW_ogryn

magic cipher
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Almost wish I wasn't using the inferno staff so I could put a greatsword on haha, people seem to fuck with that thing

broken carbon
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greatsword is a very strong allrounder

magic cipher
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Oh I thought it was a hoard clearer, might give it a go then

broken carbon
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you can kill crushers pretty fast with the stabs

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overheads are fine for sniping out smaller elites

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and the horde clear is plenty fast

magic cipher
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That sounds fun haha

broken carbon
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i love the greatsword

magic cipher
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Might make one then, although I am also enjoying the force sword

broken carbon
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i personally prefer the mk8, i think its better

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but the mk6 also has plenty of advocates

broken carbon
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theyre all great now

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obscurus got buffed recently, so its pretty strong too

magic cipher
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I'm using Deimos but I'm curious about the other options as an anti crusher stick

broken carbon
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l1 into h2

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but the obscurus is very good too

magic cipher
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:O

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Was that obscurus?

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Just saw the title

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Might take deflector off my deimos and take unstable power instead

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Deflector might be overkill with a bubble

broken carbon
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if you want unstable power

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just take slaughterer instead

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that clip is with uncanny strike

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and no perks

magic cipher
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Is slaughter worth it if I'm using the flame staff to clear the weak ads though?

broken carbon
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yes

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because you dont always have space for purg staff

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and you can use it for elites

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and get value from them

magic cipher
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Cool thanks 🙂

nocturne dust
prime elk
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well it doesn't need all those buffs for the combo tap against crusher

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you should be able to do it with just slaughter and uncanny

nocturne dust
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I'ma have to test that I guess loregryn

prime elk
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obscurus is pretty good

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if you want a force sword that's between the illisi and deimos

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which is what it always should've been ig KEKW_ogryn

magic cipher
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Anyone know if deflector works during rezzes?

nocturne dust
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@hearty wolf you might have too many scoreboards saved?

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wdym

fiery stratus
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@hearty wolf

nocturne dust
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Do I? susgryn

plucky flax
magic cipher
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Thanks 👍

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One less reason to use it

hearty wolf
plucky flax
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No.

hearty wolf
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:(

plucky flax
nocturne dust
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very normal game where I didn't explode from lag at all

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I should actually clip the double DC shenanigan thing that happened KEKW_ogryn

fiery stratus
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Send it to fatshark so they can do nothing about it

wanton iron
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best staff for bubble pysker on havoc?

hearty wolf
nocturne dust
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Mine is the same modifiers but Vigil Station

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@hearty wolf check that you're filtering by havoc rank

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Huh, I see 4

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check none

dusk void
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Did I farm a little too much?

subtle harbor
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No

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Farm MORE

turbid inlet
#

What's a good pairing for FGS besides Bolt Pistol?

mellow heath
#

Pog sword

thorn cedar
#

ive used p much everything

#

gsword is flexible enough at everything that you dont really have one specific weakness to shore up

magic cipher
#

Are there any psyker melee builds that hold up all the way through the end game? Preferably with a staff for ammo purposes

patent jacinth
#

Totally

#

Give me a second

patent jacinth
#

Go nuts

#

I chose voidblast because it opens bulwarks and is instant heavy stagger to 99% of things

magic cipher
#

Thanks! This looks fun 😬

#

Voidblast is the circle on the floor one right? Haven't vibed with those much but also only used them early on

patent jacinth
#

You could also run rending shockwave + warp flurry because its not your focus but both work

patent jacinth
magic cipher
#

Awesome, I should make one and give it a go

plucky flax
magic cipher
#

Not inferno? :O

plucky flax
#

Yes whatthefuck_heresy

patent jacinth
magic cipher
#

Ah that makes sense, tyty

magic cipher
# patent jacinth

Does this work for havoc out of interest? I'm not nearly at havoc yet but just curious

wicked hornet
#

so question about the combat knife. I see some people use Lacerate instead of flesh tearer. How come? is it bc they feel they aren't getting critical hits that much so go for something that will probably proc more?

magic cipher
#

Still struggling with auric maelstroms

upper galleon
#

4 bleed stacks doesn’t make up for doing 1/3rd the damage from bodyshotting

wind spruce
#

On psyker lacerate is fine bc the bleed is useless outside of monstrosities

upper galleon
#

If you want bleed flesh tearer is right there, and if you kill something with a weakspot crit oh well you didn’t need to bleed it anyways

wind spruce
#

And lacerate is more consistent

upper galleon
#

Or uncanny ripose

wind spruce
#

I agree

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But that's not the discussion

upper galleon
#

Lacerate is only consistent in the vacuum

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Because weakspot hits are more consistent than bleed

wind spruce
#

Enter melee range, hit monstrosity in body four times, max stacks

#

Doesn't get more consistent than that

#

The only reason to run bleed on psyker is boss damage, so if you want consistency in building bleed stacks so you can then switch to another damage source you choose lacerate

prime elk
#

i guess you don't plan on using the knife for anything else then

upper galleon
#

Basically yea

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I feel if you have knife vs boss just use dodge blessings and stab his head

nocturne dust
#

bleed can help you hit a couple breakpoints

wind spruce
#

Flesh teaser will do almost nothing to other targets

#

It's a waste of a blessing

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Outside of monstrosities

nocturne dust
#

I mean, yeah, on psyker generally you'd be better served with other blessings

wind spruce
#

(And lacerate will do even less to those targets, to be clear)

prime elk
#

i don't think either of them are good, but i'd still rather take FT over lacerate

wicked hornet
#

so I should choose a different blessing besides the 2 I mentioned

prime elk
#

then again i always run SG so that might be why

wind spruce
broken carbon
#

i couldn’t find urs

wicked hornet
#

I'm probably a dumb psyker for using knife but I like it a lot and it helps me to keep up or move around or get myself in a better situation.

prime elk
#

nah knife is fine

#

mk6 is pretty good on psyker

plucky flax
prime elk
#

lacerate on zealot? dafuq

#

why

wicked hornet
#

someone called me out earlier and honestly got to me a little bit but I'm trying to make it better

plucky flax
#

Get scourge stacks faster for more crit chance

nocturne dust
#

Just use it on Staffker to reposition chadgryn

celest valve
#

i mean i had someone tell me that mk6 push stab is bad because it hits the torso while the other knife mark with it's overhead hits the head

prime elk
#

for an entire blessing slot

#

should be able to proc and mantain scourge just playing normally

wicked hornet
#

thanks for the information guys.

plucky flax
#

Yeah but you ramp it up faster. With zealot you get max bleed regardless of lacerate or flesh tearer anyway might as well get scourge going a bit faster.

#

Tru solo havoc 40 zealot used lacerate

prime elk
#

i get the idea, but losing an entire blessing slot for that purpose is oof

plucky flax
#

I've been using lacerate uncanny for years too

#

Only really pro zealots can understand lacerate uncanny PeepoHappy

celest valve
#

really though you use the mark 4 dueling sword tho for the drip imo

nocturne dust
#

I use the mk4 dueling sword because I am an unskilled meta munchkin

celest valve
#

i use the mk4 dueling sword for the drip

#

we are not the same

nocturne dust
wicked hornet
celest valve
magic cipher
#

Just took the Force Greatsword into the meatgrinder and really like how it feels, but I'm wondering what its pros and cons compared to Daimos are? 🙂

#

Not able to upgrade it fully yet so hard to tell via numbers

nocturne dust
#

Very high damage even against hordes, lacks speed, dodge, mobility, and the knockdown from h2, but also far less reliant on specific blessings.

#

Also has higher attack range

plucky flax
#

Better horde clear and very long reach. Funny special that can potentially clear 30+ enemies at once

magic cipher
#

Ah yeah guess I'd lose the infinite dodges but the extra reach feels great for crushers

#

Is the crusher damage comparable?

plucky flax
#

Hmm its less than deimos since deimos can have uncanny

#

At 5 stacks deimos is kinda crack

magic cipher
#

Doesn't daimos let you dodge forever?

#

Was told that lol

buoyant maple
nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

Huh?

#

No

#

It doesn't need attack speed

prime elk
#

well it def benefits greatly from attack speed

nocturne dust
#

I use the mk6 which is the slower of the 2 and it's completely fine without the atk spd node

plucky flax
nocturne dust
subtle harbor
#

Turns out, the key to a successful melee build is knowing when to shoot a motherfucker

nocturne dust
subtle harbor
#

At some point, going in close is gonna be more dangerous than pulling the blicky

prime elk
plucky flax
#

I have not played big sword without 10% attack speed and I'm afraid to do it

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

Take it with all your staff builds

magic cipher
#

Honestly the greatsword feels easier to use than daimos lol, it can be hard to land those close range crits on crushers in the middle of it all

nocturne dust
#

Realize FGS is just that great

plucky flax
#

Nah with my surge illisi is just perfect

#

Fast dodge now nice horde clear and pull out time

nocturne dust
#

Crap, I have to do a variant of that gif with a sword in hand now, don't I

plucky flax
#

Also illisi can have slaughterer to amplify soulblaze

nocturne dust
#

Illisi suffers immensely without a meleeker build

plucky flax
#

You just need to weave in special lights

nocturne dust
#

🤷‍♂️ Eh, I'd rather just take slaughterer deimos and spam lights

plucky flax
#

Okay you can disagree but I have fax

#

With gameplay footage Kapp

nocturne dust
#

Submit your fax

plucky flax
#

You need to be really pro to horde clear with illisi

nocturne dust
#

Hhhhmmmm, what's the best way to get a picture of full FGS loregryn

prime elk
#

run rashad for horde clear whatthefuck_heresy

nocturne dust
#

On Staffker? With no atk spd? susgryn

prime elk
#

it'd be funny

#

and i don't want to hear complaints about attack speed by the guy who doesn't run it with fgs whatthefuck_heresy

nocturne dust
#

FGS doesn't need it, Rashad kinda does

#

so I definitely can complain

subtle harbor
prime elk
#

they're both similarly slow lol

nocturne dust
#

Yes, but FGS has range

prime elk
#

yes, but rashad kills horde enemies in one hit

subtle harbor
#

Yes but big sword

prime elk
#

true

#

i haven't used rashad since fgs came out

#

on psyker at least

nocturne dust
prime elk
#

rashad's just boringly effective

nocturne dust
prime elk
#

i can cover that 1 or 2 units of extra range almost instantly anyway

subtle harbor
#

Rashad isn’t a warp weapon so i don’t use it

prime elk
#

it was the original bonker weapon before fgs came out (i was prob the only one running it on psyker)

nocturne dust
#

Also, I disagree with them being similarly slow

#

Rashad is vastly slower

prime elk
#

it's crazy to not run melee attack speed on either of them

nocturne dust
#

I disagree

#

FGS is perfectly fine without it

#

and in fact I use it a lot without it

#

Rashad isn't nearly the same

prime elk
#

ok crazy man

nocturne dust
#

Don't make me time the light chains staregryn

prime elk
#

well let me guess. with the attack speed node, all of them will be ~10% faster give or take.

nocturne dust
#

I'm saying comparing Rashad to FGS

#

not the node, lol

prime elk
#

you can compare them if you like, i'm taking the attack speed node for both weapons lol

nocturne dust
#

I bet I can find other weapons with comparable speed to FGS loregryn

#

But you seem stuck in your ways 😔

magic cipher
#

Would the mk6 or mk8 be a better pairing with inferno staff? 🙂

nocturne dust
#

It's largely a matter of preference, but imo the mk6

prime elk
nocturne dust
#

because the mk6 has a better single-target combo which is what the Inferno staff wants

magic cipher
#

That sounds ideal, thanks 👍

nocturne dust
prime elk
nocturne dust
#

Not untrue, but not true either

prime elk
nocturne dust
#

Well there's your problem

prime elk
#

i don't see the problem KEKW_ogryn

nocturne dust
#

You don't play staffker

magic cipher
#

Yeah I'm on Deimos rn, I like it but the extra reach on the GS appeals to me lol

Might make a trauma staff/GS melee based build but idk if it'll scale well into havoc

nocturne dust
#

0/10

prime elk
#

the virgin staffker vs. the chad bonker

prime elk
nocturne dust
prime elk
#

though yes, fgs is cool

magic cipher
#

Maybe I'll save the greatswording for when I made a zealot, assuming they get one

nocturne dust
prime elk
nocturne dust
#

(such as with trauma)

prime elk
#

this is the way

magic cipher
prime elk
magic cipher
#

Awesome ty

nocturne dust
#

Json runs meleeker in Havoc

prime elk
nocturne dust
#

But it's more of a staff/melee hybrid

magic cipher
#

I'm mostly practicing in auric maelstroms rn and it sounds like it would be great there

prime elk
#

make sure you bring wrath if you take fgs in havoc

nocturne dust
#

It isn't as simple as 'Deimos better'

prime elk
#

for inferno? i think deimos is simply better

nocturne dust
prime elk
#

wtf

nocturne dust
#

They run warp splitting KEKW_ogryn

prime elk
#

fgs cleave is meh, even with warp splitting

#

and havoc being what it is

#

bold decision

nocturne dust
#

and they must be doing something right since they can keep up with my inferno build

#

granted, I use pen flames so they're a bit boosted, but still

prime elk
#

well as long as it works for them KEKW_ogryn

magic cipher
#

Maybe I should just try to get better with daimos, hard to keep up with the precision and speed of mnk players on controller though

#

Greatsword sounds easier

nocturne dust
#

e z solution

#

get a mouse and keyboard

magic cipher
#

maybe one day 😂

dense flume
#

Forcing consoles into controllers just seems so....antiquated. I don't understand why they can't just let players plug in a mnk and have it work normally in games

#

Is it that complicated to build into their OS? idk..

magic cipher
#

The controllers are so expensive and break so often that my cynical brain portion thinks it's just for money

dense flume
#

You know what, yeah, that actually checks out. Brain farted and forgot about corporate greed there for a minute, my mistake

wicked hornet
#

what do you want as the perks on a rending voidblast for havoc?

magic cipher
#

Accidentally took a green 340 greatsword into auric maelstrom 💀

#

And it's working lol

nocturne dust
#

Behold, sword

inland ice
#

literally me before dodging into a crusher overhead

magic cipher
#

Got it done lmao

#

But tbf there was barely any crushers in that one

#

So hard to tell if the sword was actually doing well

#

Oh, also got my 90 kills in 30s

#

Should I go for <60 warp resistance on a GS or does it not matter?

plucky flax
#

I like how it's 2 of us survive. I ress 1 guy, the other guy doesn't ress the other guy. Then it becomes 3 guys and none of the other 2 want to res the last guy. whatthefuck_heresy

wicked hornet
#

sounds sick

plucky flax
#

He can spectate. PeepoHappy

#

I ress 1 out of 2 my job is done.

scarlet comet
#

i played for 80 hours on ps5 and just gave up and switched to PC, m+k feels necessary for precise melee and more complicated movement

radiant frigate
#

i am told it's a comfort thing

#

and that some people play on controller

compact cargo
#

So like using imperial

#

It's a feeling thing

radiant frigate
#

no imperial is objectively wrong

#

big difference

#

pounds? ounces? gallons? feet? what's wrong with the US?

#

miles??

compact cargo
#

So are many of the new controllers

They used to be design with fighting games in mind and twin stick shooters where they shine (torchlight, V rising, etc)

But playing an fps with a controller or some of the newer fighting games (where crabbing is mandatory) is the opposite of comfortable

plucky flax
radiant frigate
compact cargo
#

Nautical miles are the only useful "imperial" measure

plucky flax
#

I dunno a lot.

radiant frigate
compact cargo
#

Because it's simple knot translation

plucky flax
#

Like over 1 thousand. whatthefuck_heresy

radiant frigate
#

garbage measurement

plucky flax
#

No one really use yard though.

#

It's metre for short distance.

#

Then mile for long.

radiant frigate
#

if use meters why use feet

#

why not cm

compact cargo
plucky flax
#

UK people at least use metre and cm for height.

compact cargo
#

Not in my experience

plucky flax
#

Really short distance we use inches.

compact cargo
radiant frigate
#

but not in the US

#

who the hell uses feet for height

#

and why is 6 the magic number

nocturne dust
# compact cargo So like using imperial

It's not a comfort thing, it's the-inertia-of-a-multi-billion-economic-system-working-off-a-flawed-non-decimal-based-measurement-system-in-a-decimal-based-numeric-system-and-the-powerlessness-of-being-a-single-person-who-can't-change-anything-but-also-if-you-try-to-change-by-yourself-you-get-ostracized-and-looked-at-for-being-weird

plucky flax
#

No pounds tho it's stones here. whatthefuck_heresy

nocturne dust
#

Also twelve is cooler

#

We should be in a base-twelve numeric system

compact cargo
#

Why not measure everything in Ogryns?

#

It's very visual!

deft stump
#

Doing a 20-, last try. Anyone can help? Vent purge sniper gauntlet.

plucky flax
#

Ye sure.

#

Since I'm on same server as you right now.

deft stump
#

Vox 13.

plucky flax
#

Wifi at this place disable my in game chat and voice chat tho. Also I have no mic so I can only listen.

deft stump
#

Okay.

#

Is just me panicking mostly.

plucky flax
#

1 sec booting up game and toilet

#

Omg first time ever see a playstation gamer.

#

Also I don't even heard anything on discord not sure if anyone talking. Kek

deft stump
#

We are all talking so IDK.

#

And I'm panicking as usual.

plucky flax
#

I'll log in discord with my phone maybe it works.

deft stump
#

Guess not?

#

Been rambling for the last 5 mins.

plucky flax
#

Let's go it's ez

#

I can hear a bit from my phone speaker. PeepoHappy

radiant frigate
#

12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, ??? yards to a mile

nocturne dust
#

Imperial doesn't have a base KEKW_ogryn

radiant frigate
#

imperial is NOT BASED

#

you heard it here first siblings

#

i would however argue that 10 is more gooder because you can count it on your fingies

nocturne dust
#

You can count 12 with the spaces around your fingers

#

and you can divide 12 with more numbers to get a whole number

#

2, 3, 4, 6

compact cargo
#

Ogryn counting

nocturne dust
#

There's a number of other really neat aspects to 12 that are... well, very hard to explain unless you're a math nerd. The only number that would be better in those respects than 12 is 60, but 60 is huge and unwieldy.

#

Well, only small number.

#

I bet there are much bigger numbers that also qualify, but they'd be even worse than 60 KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
#

2 zealots but no corruption aura with blight is certainly a choice whatthefuck_heresy

deft stump
#

Thanks, but yeah. Did say I'm bad.

plucky flax
#

It's okay more damage for me to eat

deft stump
#

Well, we got solo carried. XD

clear heath
nocturne dust
#

Yes

plucky flax
#

We should also have 12 fingers

nocturne dust
#

maybe

maiden oracle
nocturne dust
#

I'd prefer more arms than more fingers

#

then I could hold more things

maiden oracle
#

I could eat messy foods while playing without getting the space dirty

#

Amazing

deft stump
#

I dunno man, I just went bubble headpop cos snipers. No more no less.

plucky flax
#

UnsanctionedPsyker's chinese cousin peepoAsian

deft stump
#

We had too much smite and failed cos nobody could shoot them

vagrant cedar
plucky flax
vagrant cedar
#

so cluttery

plucky flax
nocturne dust
#

I do it so I can judge other people

#

and it helps give data on what people see as good/meta. This Discord is a bubble. loregryn

weary idol
#

because holy fuck every time I try to play smiteker or inferno staff NOBODY KILLS THE GODDAMN GUNNERS

nocturne dust
#

Kill them yourself chadgryn

#

Run up and set them on fire

marble crater
radiant frigate
#

you know what would have been really fucked up?

#

if fatshark decided to make voidstrike and voidblast marks of the same weapon family

deft stump
upper sun
radiant frigate
#

true fact

#

(don't tell anyone that sg can do much the same but personal)

#

(or just having a weapon with riposte or shred)(or knife)

#

(or high RoF gun)

burnt gazelle
#

trauma/bubble/assail/dd or smth ig?

radiant frigate
#

bigsword/bubble/dd

marble crater
# plucky flax Thanks Daddy.

You just have to wait though, because typing on Xbox takes very long.
Maybe I will have to set up my app again to type on my phone instead loregryn

radiant frigate
#

assail kinda pointless with a staff imo

velvet herald
#

anyone got a knife build for me ? tired of doing brain pops and smites , wanna try something else

burnt gazelle
#

wdym by knife build

radiant frigate
#

knife as in melee knife or knife as in psychic throwing knives

velvet herald
#

fake zealot build ?

#

melee sorry

#

can a psy even survive a only melee build ?

upper sun
#

if you're good yes

radiant frigate
velvet herald
upper sun
#

you dont have the tools other classes do tho ie ironwill oor until death

radiant frigate
#

or this

radiant frigate
upper sun
#

zealot has big relic sword

radiant frigate
#

considerable

#

i shall meditate on that

upper sun
#

tbh its mid

radiant frigate
#

it ok

upper sun
#

mk6 has a bloated combo

#

mk10 has broken dodges

#

and very slow attack speed

burnt gazelle
#

what's up with the dodges?

radiant frigate
#

6 is force though

upper sun
burnt gazelle
#

yeah

upper sun
#

their dodges are broken they reset too slowly or something

#

its hard to put your finger on it

radiant frigate
#

what about mk2

upper sun
#

its better

radiant frigate
#

epic

upper sun
#

but the combos are weird

radiant frigate
#

takes some getting used to but i prefer it

upper sun
#

pa H1 H2 for clear and have no fucking idea for single target KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
#

L1 H4 actually

#

i am gonna have a crashout over this ngl

radiant frigate
#

oh indeed?

burnt gazelle
#

Suggested Single Target combos

L1 > L2 > H3 > H4 > H3 > …
… > H3 > L2 > …
L1 > H4 > …
… > H4 > L1 > …
Push > L2 > …Heavy Sprint/Slide > L2 > …

on patchnotes

upper sun
#

i had like arguments with 4 people in zealot chat about the single target combo

#

they all wanted L1L2H3H4 loop

#

now they updated the guide to my idea

radiant frigate
radiant frigate
#

oops all overheads

upper sun
radiant frigate
#

is the overhead light more gooder than the overhead heavy or something

plucky flax
#

Why zealot big sword in my psyker chat? Do you know psyker big sword is superior?

radiant frigate
#

Yes

#

zealot bigsword needs to be turned on to work

#

psyker bigsword just works and also can shoot magic sword beams

#

(very based)

near wyvern
plucky flax
#

Imagine doing combo I just light spam for horde and heavy spam for elites

marble crater
#

As long as the zealot kills the crushers for me while playing purgatus they are welcome here

upper sun
radiant frigate
#

bigsword chat

upper sun
#

zealot and psyker are the only classes in this game chadgryn

#

speaking of psyker 🤔

#

illisi buffs when????

cold geode
#

Remove and replace deflector with something else.

Change KD to a node that adds a shield to any one handed weapon that allows sword/board game play in melee and blocks bullets but not sniper rounds.

Give it a number of hits before it breaks (ala dome shield ) and a cool down before its reignited.

marble crater
#

It was buffed last patch, right?

upper sun
#

they just fixed its dodges

#

illisi's attack speed is sad

#

needs like a 5% buff

radiant frigate
upper sun
#

yeah also a unique heavy after the PA would be nice