psyker-class

[strong gulch]

oh

[nocturne dust]

You may not need to crit if you have other buffs tho

[hearty wolf]

I can give my throwing knife buff

[broken carbon]

u can just heavy special heavy

im assuming the force stagger on weakspot still works

[nocturne dust]

but one-shot funny

[broken carbon]

also true

do i melee psyker with

the obscurus

[nocturne dust]

no

stinky

dumb

small sword

bad

[broken carbon]

its so good now

hrm...

[nocturne dust]

Small

[broken carbon]

true

[nocturne dust]

itty bitty

[broken carbon]

im small

(5'10)

[nocturne dust]

all the more reason to use big sword

[broken carbon]

true

ill use the mk8 though

[nocturne dust]

Disgusting

[broken carbon]

because its objectively better than the mk6 in every way

and anyone who disagrees in any way is wrong

and stinky

because i said so

[ocean cipher]

is it just me or is the director on something rn?

[nocturne dust]

I disagree and am correct and not stinky

[broken carbon]

mmmm

wrong.

i smell u from here

[ocean cipher]

ive been trying to do Hishock Malice and its been literal constant waves of ragers, crushers, snipers, and trappers

[nocturne dust]

I timed it, mk6 does more single target damage than mk8

[broken carbon]

sir stinksalot

[nocturne dust]

I did the numbers

I have the math

[broken carbon]

meh, i can one shot a crusher

[nocturne dust]

[broken carbon]

thats what matters

and i prefer the moveset of the mk8 much more

feels much smoother to use

[nocturne dust]

You can do that with even Illisi

[broken carbon]

ok and a dueling sword can oneshot a boss

[strong gulch]

It's the weekend so yes. IDK if it's been proven or whatever, but the director always seems spicier on the weekends. That's excluding people who don't play during the week.

[broken carbon]

with extremely specific builds yes

[nocturne dust]

This is why you are not a true Psyker

stinky zealot

[broken carbon]

yah

zealot makes me good at melee

stinky psyker

go learn the crusher

learn melee combos

[nocturne dust]

wdym I know how to use crusher

[broken carbon]

uhmmm

nuh uh

!

[nocturne dust]

If you spam heavy charge you never need to combo

[broken carbon]

woe

PA upon ye

[nocturne dust]

Good or just overly complicating things?

Attacks go bbbbbbrrrrrrrr, combos happen on their own

[broken carbon]

i mean

[haughty pasture]

Anybody aware of a damage threshold for the dome shield?

[nocturne dust]

[haughty pasture]

y'know before it just expires

[broken carbon]

i regularly outdamage basically everyone else

[nocturne dust]

Yes, the shield has HP

[broken carbon]

with melee

so

yes, good

[nocturne dust]

It has invulnerability after every hit tho

so it's like

[haughty pasture]

Any idea on how much it is?

[nocturne dust]

6 seconds minimum iirc

[buoyant maple]

Not quite sure exact health number but I believe the minimum uptime is around 6 seconds

[split lance]

no no ur stinky

[broken carbon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505

[haughty pasture]

Many thanks

https://tenor.com/lmwbcRKrT8Y.gif

[nocturne dust]

I mean I regularly outdamage everyone else without melee

[broken carbon]

you also play psyker

so its very easy to do that

with ranged

[nocturne dust]

I never denied that.

Imagine taking the hard path.

[broken carbon]

i take the hard path

and i bitch and moan throughout it all

[buoyant maple]

True zealot main

[haughty pasture]

I hate myself so I play Grey Knight melee psyker with Assail

[broken carbon]

i love melee psyker

its very fun

[haughty pasture]

Same it's awesome

[sullen whale]

not having fun with it cuz low damage on greatsword, prolly cuz im not using scrier or DD

[broken carbon]

DD is basically required to push melee psyker into S tier

[haughty pasture]

DD?

[broken carbon]

disrupt destiny

SG is scriers gaze

[haughty pasture]

oh. I use Emp Psyionics

https://tenor.com/PYvf.gif

[nocturne dust]

well don't

why would you

[maiden oracle]

I only ran it for the smite penance

Don’t see why else otherwise

[nocturne dust]

EP being only for blitzes is such a stupid design

[sullen whale]

ngl it's like a tax of 5-7 just to get to DD

also does EP apply to kinetic flayer

[nocturne dust]

Kinetic Deflection is not a tax

[verbal thistle]

yes

[sullen whale]

it consumes a stack of EP then or no?

[verbal thistle]

dont not eat a stack

[sullen whale]

looked like it didn't

[verbal thistle]

but has the EP damage buff

[haughty pasture]

I like spamming Assail for horde clears. Esp useful in Havoc

[broken carbon]

true aim, kinetic deflection, surety of arms

are not taxes

everything in that tree is good

[sullen whale]

does psychic leeching proc on kinetic flayer too then?

[haughty pasture]

Also Warp Rider give you 20% damage depending on peril

[verbal thistle]

I would think not

probably tied to using a stack of ep

[maiden oracle]

Fgs push only hits a single enemy right

[nocturne dust]

surety of arms is very much a tax without a very select and specific few weapons

[sullen whale]

not sure tbh

[prime elk]

yeah

[maiden oracle]

Damn

[broken carbon]

yah but its not a dead point compared to something like unremitting (-20% sprint cost on zealot)

[maiden oracle]

So I should just spend my special charges if I want aoe stagger

[prime elk]

well there's the push that gives a light aoe stagger

but the push attack is single target

should prob clarify

[maiden oracle]

I’m talking about the push

Actually I don’t think I am

[nocturne dust]

tru

[maiden oracle]

It’s the force push that can knock a crusher down

Is that push or push attack

[prime elk]

yeah that's single target

[maiden oracle]

Wallahi

[prime elk]

that's the push attack

[broken carbon]

everything i say is a true

[prime elk]

the push comes before that

[nocturne dust]

false

[broken carbon]

this statement is false

[nocturne dust]

You think mk8 is superior to mk6, therefore everything you say is not true

Q.E.D.

[prime elk]

actually mk4 is the best

[nocturne dust]

mk69, actually

https://tenor.com/view/69-gif-23047473

[hearty wolf]

mk6 gang gang

[gaunt seal]

For over a year I’ve been telling people I fought a boss in Darktide named phonetically “I’ve been jackin off”
No one believed me
Now 1000 hours later I found him again I present to you, the man, the myth, the legend:

[sullen whale]

reminds me of sir gay jackin off from tekken

[plucky flax]

Hey its me

[gaunt seal]

Which

[plucky flax]

Jagganoth

[cloud lodge]

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say warp slice and blazing spirit are the top blessing for le magic greatsword?

[jovial juniper]

Blazing Spirit?

wrong buzzer

[nocturne dust]

completely wrong

They are, in fact, the worst blessings

[cloud lodge]

Rats

[nocturne dust]

Funny memes tho

[cloud lodge]

So what be the bigguns then

[nocturne dust]

Shred, Wrath, Riposte

Unstable Power too

[cloud lodge]

Hm

Okie dokie

[jovial juniper]

You see
Your activated attack is more likely to kill stuff before you even apply soul blaze

[nocturne dust]

Uh

[jovial juniper]

Not the mention the cool down on that blessing

[nocturne dust]

activated attack doesn't apply soulblaze on the ranged bit

[cloud lodge]

Which confuses me why the guaranted crit one is poo

[nocturne dust]

Huge cooldown

[cloud lodge]

Ah

[cloud lodge]

Double ah

[nocturne dust]

• the crit isn't that great

Like it does more damage, but you still kill the same things. BPs don't really change with a crit.

[cloud lodge]

Welp, shred and wrath it is

[jovial juniper]

Blazing Spirit being worthless outside of Trauma 2024

[nocturne dust]

You still charge to lvl 2 to kill elites and lvl 1 to kill horde

and lvl 0 to stagger

[nocturne dust]

Fire Sword will be real some day

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[jovial juniper]

But not today

Or tomorrow

Or the day after tomorrow

Or

[cloud lodge]

And which of the two versions is the goody?

[jovial juniper]

....

[cloud lodge]

I'm assuming the one with the fat heavy attack

But I know nuthin

[analog agate]

Oh no. I smell zealots hearing the dreaded question again

[jovial juniper]

Which one is the one I'm using, uh
VIII

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

Some prefer mk6. Some prefer mk8.

[cloud lodge]

Fair nuff

[jovial juniper]

I don't really vibe with the 8

However

[cloud lodge]

I just know sometimes there's a super goody

[nocturne dust]

Generally, I think Psyker mains prefer mk6 and people that normally play other classes normally prefer mk8.

[cloud lodge]

And didn't know if it applied to this weapon

[nocturne dust]

Both are very good though.

[jovial juniper]

Pretty good detail that you have a different attack right after wielding it

[nocturne dust]

I prefer mk6.

[analog agate]

I prefer mk8

.

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

@nocturne dust I didn't notice that you had to leave. Guess who I picked up first.
https://youtu.be/axadvulQtM8

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, my stomach was hurting from before I went down and I was like 'surely it will go away if I just tough it out. I'm down anyway, I can wait'.

and then as you got closer I was like "Wait, hm, it's not going away This might be a problem"

[strong gulch]

Tum tum said NOW

[split lance]

Guys

[strong gulch]

ye?

[split lance]

Hech never showed up again

:(

Wait was that there name

[strong gulch]

Maybe hech sleep

[split lance]

They’re not even in the server anymore lol

[nocturne dust]

o wtf

[split lance]

Lmaooo

[haughty star]

6 just so slowwww

[strong gulch]

Oh heck.

I know we were being a lot when a mod shows up.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I don't think they were kicked or banned

The only mod action that's happened here is when Irosk did the 'kill yourself' meme

[split lance]

I found him in tanners discord

I’m getting my duo run

[strong gulch]

Hech was spreading a lot of misinformation, that's really the only time this chat gets riled up.

Yes there is lots of debate about the nuances of things, we only really get into it when someone is proudly wrong about facts.

I didn't mean to insinuate that Hech was banned. Sorry about that.

[nocturne dust]

Eh, no need to apologize 🤷‍♂️

[strong gulch]

I'm sure Hech is plenty good at the game, but game knowledge + being good at the game are not the same things.

You can know the code of the game and still be bad at it.

You can solo stuff and not fully understand how x and y interact.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, soloing is a specific skillset. I don't think it's conducive to look at that as an example of what the best player is.

[strong gulch]

Right.

That's my point.

You said it better tho.

[nocturne dust]

It's also that I would argue the meta is what the worst players can get away with, not what the best players use. The best players can run literally anything and be fine.

[strong gulch]

EXACTLY

That's why I bring up really good players having weird builds from time to time when someone mentions that they saw x being played by whoever and they want to know what the build is.

[clear heath]

I've seen someone show off their solo run with toughness regen curios back when they were bugged and didn't even function

some people can be insanely good and just not know things about the game

[strong gulch]

Ye

If you're learning something new, getting info or guidance from someone with raw talent might not be all that helpful.

[nocturne dust]

There's also a bit of grandfathered-in opinions sometimes. Like, the game has clearly shifted but some older players still talk like balancing is pre-patch 13 or something.

[strong gulch]

Like doctors refusing to learn up to date info.

That was a bit more personal, lol.

[wicked hornet]

I learn a lot from you guys and the conversations I see happen in here.

how bad in the combat knife if you use mobility as the dump stat instead of pen? trying to get another knife with the dump stat in mobility to see how I like it. wondering if that is a thing

[strong gulch]

I'm constantly learning a new thing.

[nocturne dust]

mobility is the normal dump stat

pen is only for mobility memes

https://tenor.com/view/unmatched-speed-blowtorchmoron-monkey-speed-gif-20235454

[wicked hornet]

is carapace and maniacs the perks to use on it?

it's what I use

[strong gulch]

@split lance My partner just got home (about 1:30 am) idk about games tonight unless it's heckin late like 5 am.

[split lance]

All good

[strong gulch]

Yeah those are good. The usual options are maniac, cara, or unyielding.

[wind spruce]

My second warning in two days hahhaha

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/paddling-gif-7623907

[split lance]

How are hechs simps still here

I wouldn’t of know if discord didn’t now notify you from reactions

[nocturne dust]

Discord notifies you from reactions?

[strong gulch]

Yeah.

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't notify me

lmao

[strong gulch]

I need to go look at setting because it annoying.

You think you got a reply but it's just one person doing a bunch of emote things.

[analog agate]

Who?

[split lance]

wdym who

lol

[analog agate]

Oh. It was supposed to be hech

Who is hech and their simp

[split lance]

@wet quiver this is hechs simp

hech left

sad

we were supposed to run a duo

but hech is a high level psyker, one thats so high leveled we cant even comprehend it

[analog agate]

Ah. Must be a real high level

[verbal thistle]

It wasnt misinformation and he isnt banned

[nocturne dust]

He did literally state misinformation, saying Souldrinker works off all kills if the target has soulblaze

[verbal thistle]

on the curio aspect

sorry

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the curio aspect is just opinions 🤷‍♂️

[verbal thistle]

Yes

[strong gulch]

I didn't mean to imply that he was banned. I apologize for making it sound like he was. I was just bringing up the mod because it was unusual and coincided with the heated discussion.

[nocturne dust]

Imagine if the mods did just ban you for stating the wrong opinion

[verbal thistle]

I see, makes more sense.

[strong gulch]

😅

[plucky flax]

Only really pro players can run stamina curios

[nocturne dust]

Wrong opinion, banned

[strong gulch]

Maybe I should remove that first mod comment.

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-caseoh-games-banned-shozzy-caseoh-animation-gif-18118498106583924913

[deft stump]

I mean, you can suck and run them, just don't expect much. Heh.

[nocturne dust]

Run stamina so you can run more

[plucky flax]

I am pro enough to keep up with team without stam curios

Must be top 1%

[deft stump]

Still can't catch up to the emperor's crack addicts.

[nocturne dust]

But can you outrun them? The Chaos Spawn gets the slowest reject

[wicked hornet]

I like stamina curios. Curios @plucky flax How come I don't see you use them? I only ask because I trust your builds and I really like your gameplay. Hope to play psyker like you at some point lol

[strong gulch]

it me

with my stam curio lmao

[celest valve]

random fun fact: crits are, apparently, using a pseudorandom distribution I think. which might make crits more reliable than they would be otherwise

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/64dd68fdbbc28112761eaa2153040efe32204ad3/scripts/utilities/pseudo_random_distribution.lua#L7

[wicked hornet]

just picking your brain

[nocturne dust]

I mean, all RNG on computers is pseudorandom

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

so how pseudorandom are we talking

[celest valve]

tbh it's a bit mathy and i am not exactly sure

but it seems similar to formulas used in, say, mobas to avoid long lucky streaks or dry streaks

[nocturne dust]

I realize I can just look at it myself

lol

[celest valve]

roll 1: a random value(between 0 and 1, all other random values will be this range) is checked against the chance modified lower than normal using some unknown formula.

roll 2: If roll 1 was successful, it then basically rolls the check as is with no change to probability. So for example, a 50% crit chance will, 30% of the time, be a simple totally random coinflip on whether or not it crits.

[broken carbon]

im stupid idk what this means

[celest valve]

roll 3: If roll 1 was not successful, it will then multiply that modified chance multiplied by a number that increases by one every time the check was not rolled

so ok. 5% crit chance. The number in the lookup table for 5% is 0.38%.

[nocturne dust]

The game isn't rolling a single die, it's rolling multiple dice and checking them against each other in such a way that you don't get really lucky or really unlucky

[broken carbon]

i shmee

[celest valve]

0.38% of the time, you will crit 5% of the time without any changes whatsoever in the state(the state is the number of non-crits we've gotten without a crit).

[haughty star]

I personally dump pen cuz i run uncanny anyway and the bleed on crit blessing and it's pretty insane

But I also think knoife for psyker is garbage after experiencing it on zealot lol

But yeah the diff in mobility is pretty large between 60 and 80 on knife, it scales pretty hard. Like it's still fast dumped but like the whole point objectively of running knife is to go fast 🏃‍♀️ 🙃

[celest valve]

ok. So now the initial state is 13. We multiply that value before by this, and get 6.84%. Thus you have a 6.84% chance to crit here, which increases by 0.38% every time you don't crit.

When you do crit, this is dropped to 1, or the cruddy 0.38% crit rate.

[teal needle]

To this day I still can not comprehend why they made lightning staff sound like a dying graphics card

[celest valve]

er, 4.94% myb :x

[nocturne dust]

The difference from 60 to 80 on Knife is +0.80 to +0.89

[celest valve]

so basically you need to have 12 non-crits at 5% crit chance before you're even rolling the normal 5% crit rate, but you add 0.38% crit chance for every non-crit after that. this averages out at 5% crit chance(likely)

[nocturne dust]

which is not a huge amount

[celest valve]

doesn't it also affect sprint stamina cost

[nocturne dust]

not according to the presented stats

Mobility controls sprint speed, dodge distance, and dodge limit

[celest valve]

hmm

[nocturne dust]

Wouldn't be surprised if it did something under the hood tho

[haughty star]

Whatever man. It feels pretty insanely faster especially heavy spamming

[nocturne dust]

And that's true of a 60 or 80 mobility knife imo 🤷‍♂️

[celest valve]

i mean apparently dropping penetration is similarly small

[haughty star]

And .1 is a pretty insane difference in slow weapons lol. Once uncanny procs the difference is null anyway

[nocturne dust]

But the knife isn't slow

[celest valve]

also hokay 0.5/s i'm crossing wires with uhhhh

defenses

[haughty star]

Doesn't change the fact that it's still a sizeable difference

[nocturne dust]

It's not because that +0.8 is the entire bonus from mobility

meaning you actually get a much bigger number

because knife has its own bonus

[haughty star]

It feels significantly faster my guy

[nocturne dust]

If you say so

[haughty star]

You can math shit out all day lol idgaf.

I can test tomorrow but I'm pretty sure the attack speed increase on the heavies scales off of the base mobility

Which would make it a even wider gap

[celest valve]

6.058 for 60%, 6.146 for 80%. 80% is 1.45% faster.

[haughty star]

And .1 is a pretty large diff in speed regardless of how much you down play it. Especially on a weapon that's sole intention is to go fast

[nocturne dust]

And the basis for that claim is...?

[celest valve]

did you mean movement speed increase or

[haughty star]

Comparing mobility dumped relic to heat dumped, etc

Its a difference you can feel, and that's only a diff of .9 in that use case as well

[nocturne dust]

Well I disagree, I literally can't feel the difference on knife

and we're talking about knife here, not relic or anything else.

[haughty star]

The speed difference is the same lol

3head moment

[nocturne dust]

yes, but your speed is not

.1 matters a whole lot less when you speed is 5 then when it's 2

[haughty star]

Its a percentage based increase. It's the same gains my guy lol

[nocturne dust]

It's not

Wtf my guy

[haughty star]

Not arguing with you you just looking for your next person to argue with

[nocturne dust]

It is a static sprint speed increase, not percentage

[nocturne dust]

Yes yes yes, I'm just here to argue 🙄

[wind spruce]

Dude it's not a percentage of a base speed

[haughty star]

You already been at it as I see further up lol

[nocturne dust]

How much further up you scrolling? Lmao

[wind spruce]

Bazerk you're arguing just as much and being twice as petty

[haughty star]

Yes and I even static the point still remains lol

[nocturne dust]

It actually doesn't

[haughty star]

He's literally arguing preference but why don't you tell me to kill myself now too

[wind spruce]

Ok so don't dig your heels in on incorrect factual information then?!?!?! Wtf

[nocturne dust]

Because it is less of a percentage for knife than it is for slower weapons

[nocturne dust]

Then state it like it's a preference mfer

[wind spruce]

You got a headache or something what's happening?

Go have a panadol or something

[haughty star]

I literally did you dumb ass bitch lmao

[celest valve]

1.4% speed boost

[nocturne dust]

this is not how you state a preference

[nocturne dust]

this is not how you state a preference

'the fact'

that it's a sizeable difference

[haughty star]

Cry about it bitch

[wind spruce]

That's not what he's talking about

And that's not a preference indicator hahaah

It's saying that's what you do

Lmfaoooo

[nocturne dust]

Only response to when I prove you wrong

[plucky flax]

Fight fight fight

[haughty star]

This is literally where he started his dumb ass argument lol

[wind spruce]

Schooled yourself so hard

[celest valve]

i feel like i am getting dumber the more i listen to this

[wind spruce]

"I personally do x" doesn't state a preference HAHAHAHHAA

[plucky flax]

Reject brain cells become smooth

[celest valve]

what the fuck even is a preference then

[haughty star]

I personally doesn't state that I prefer? What a fuckin 3head lmao

[nocturne dust]

I'd bother timing the difference in speed from a mob and non-mob dumped knife but I know Baz would just say 'numbers dumb'

[haughty star]

"Schooled yourself so hard there bro"

[verbal thistle]

@plucky flax

I found a wild one

[wind spruce]

Yes you did

[strong gulch]

Purple build.

[plucky flax]

That was me

[verbal thistle]

it was a surge m1 macro. and spam smite

lol

[plucky flax]

Getting 1 shot in havoc regardless

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-mald-ratio-gif-24944390

[strong gulch]

SG fire trauma

[haughty star]

Ah yes. The ever prevalent Marty psyker

[wind spruce]

A preference is what you prefer. Personally means "I".

[plucky flax]

Since I am on asian server atm I did see a surge left click spam macro psyker with 5 wounds and crystalline in havoc 35+

Chinese players are built different

[verbal thistle]

Have you met any of the level 8k+ psykers?

In asia

[plucky flax]

No highest was like 3 or 4k

[verbal thistle]

I know of the 2 that cheated it

[wind spruce]

English is pretty hard eh man

[verbal thistle]

They come to west coast sometimes

[plucky flax]

They were okay I think I did more damage still

[strong gulch]

Cheated their hours played?

[haughty star]

Hard for you to read apparently

[plucky flax]

I think high havoc in Asia though is pretty good. Have not played in eu since week 1 so can't say how good it is back home

[verbal thistle]

exp exploit

cheated = not normal leveling

[plucky flax]

Think I won like 8/10 games using lfg tool here

[strong gulch]

Oh right lol. I'm drunk. Thinking hard.

[plucky flax]

And I find consistently 1k+ levels here in auric and havoc

[wind spruce]

Hahhaa imagine thinking personally is the same word as preference

[strong gulch]

That's wild to me because I spread my time across multiple psykers (mostly 2). Because I'm paranoid about have a high true level when I'm only ok at this game. #insecure

[haughty star]

I personally would infer that that is my preference. It's not my fault the schools failed you in whatever shithole you dwell in

[plucky flax]

Me being noob at lvl 900+

[celest valve]

does anyone have a quick screenshot of the mobility stat display in darktide

i wanna see the ranges shown in game

[wind spruce]

This is what gives me second hand embarrassment talking to you. You actually do understand the point but you see red so badly you have to dig your heels in and just disagree with everything

[celest valve]

i think it's 0.52 to 0.97 sprint speed if I am correct in how things are routed but

[verbal thistle]

noob

[nocturne dust]

This is with heavy atk spd boost btw

[celest valve]

...is that with sprinting or no?

[nocturne dust]

yes, sprinting

[summer prairie]

you could just use the mod that shows your speed

[celest valve]

hmm.

can you do tests without sprinting :v also what's the sprint speed range on it btw

[plucky flax]

You could just do what you want as long as you win

[nocturne dust]

I didn't know such a mod existed

[summer prairie]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/404

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

Nice cheat mod

[nocturne dust]

It goes from +0.8 to +0.89 for mobility from 60 to 80

[plucky flax]

I used kill tracker mod recently

Got 100+ kill combo with surge

[celest valve]

i meant the full range as shown in the UI.

[summer prairie]

I got a 250+ kill combo in one havoc end event

[nocturne dust]

+0.53 to +0.97

[plucky flax]

Burga?

[nocturne dust]

100 stats are coming

Trust

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[celest valve]

i c 👀

[summer prairie]

been a while, either surge or purg

it was mostly shriek anyway

[plucky flax]

Yes my favourite ability

[summer prairie]

mercantile end event camping under the gate

[celest valve]

so incidentally there are benefits that are not displayed in the UI that I have found looking at this

[plucky flax]

Got 950k in 25mins earlier today in maelstrom

So close

[celest valve]

so bazerkerx intution is actually correct

[nocturne dust]

oh, and also the +5% movement speed node is active

because I did this on my voidstrike build

[celest valve]

specifically in that the mobility stat also affects forward acceleration of sprint, which is normally between 0.5 and 1 from 0% to 100%

(and the stat lerps between 5% to 95%, so that's an acceleration range between 0.53 and 0.97, flat)

[nocturne dust]

I mean it does make you faster 🤷‍♂️

but even in a short distance, not by much

[celest valve]

11.5% more acceleration

[nocturne dust]

And clearly that's pretty meaningless, considering in a mere 5 meter dash the pen-dumped knife was only ~5% faster

or rather the mob-dumped was 5% slower

[celest valve]

well the max speed is only 1.4%, so that does seem to be significant.

[nocturne dust]

Fair, but not that significant 🤷‍♂️

because ultimately it's not really changing the end result, mobility dumping really does not hurt

[celest valve]

hokay. another question

can you get a screenshot of the mobility stat(again), because I want to see the dodge distance scales it shows as well

also 5 dodges doesn't seem to be possible, internal value caps at 4.95 and I believe that value is floored not rounded

[nocturne dust]

I have 6 dodges with Anticipation

[celest valve]

Okay, so that's consistent with 0% to 100% ok.

[nocturne dust]

and that's definitely true outside the Psykhanium

[celest valve]

Diminishing return distance modifier changes between 24.5% to 23.5%? i think? that's minor lol

ok so it also modifies 'movement_curve' which i have no clue what that affects?

oh, right, that's probably defined manually inside the weapon templates.

and is the movement speed curves for attacks

no wait that's action_movement_curve.

[marsh hatch]

Am I right to assume that brain rupture is for pure "mage" builds basically?

[rustic hare]

Is assail any good in havoc?

[celest valve]

Roughly, brain rupture is an anti-specialist tool.

[marsh hatch]

Got it

So Smite is prob good for vanilla build with staffs?

[celest valve]

Smite is CC. It's basically terrible at anything else without EP.

[wicked hornet]

how much does 1% really matter....

say like 79% mobility

[wind spruce]

40%

Math

[celest valve]

Also, the proper use case for smite without EP is to hold it until it connects to everyone relevant you care about, and then release it to send them flying.

[jovial juniper]

Probably until heavy armor shows up

[compact cargo]

warp siphon vent smite go brrrrr

[jovial juniper]

Because it should ignore the increase on mass of fodder enemies

[summer prairie]

assail isn't affected by the mass changes, but you've to spend a lot of time quelling unless your build somehow also gets ER or at least solidity

[compact cargo]

Assail is also affected by the very minor hp increase!!!1!1!

[celest valve]

oh noooo you might need to edge at 20% higher peril to counteract that

[jovial juniper]

Hell you might even proc battle med more often because big horde

[celest valve]

although technically my experience with assail has more been it's anti-flak

[plucky flax]

Yeah but it becomes less and less impact full above 30

Things get a bit too tanky so infinite cleave op

[late sapphire]

Now that i've switched off of KF so i can push bursters without them exploding i run smite in havoc and its useful sometimes

[celest valve]

player_character_state_exploding.lua

[tidal steppe]

waht stats do u want for inferno staff?

do we need 80 damage?

[strong gulch]

Warp resist is dump stat

[tidal steppe]

does it not amtter for infedrno?

[strong gulch]

damage matters more now that we have blazeaway

[tidal steppe]

wahtas blaze away again

[strong gulch]

@nocturne dust @hearty wolf @livid spear

[tidal steppe]

oh okay

[compact cargo]

[strong gulch]

Strength (previously named power) is damage, stagger, and cleave.

[tidal steppe]

waht erks do i want?

i assume u would want penetrating flame as well right

[strong gulch]

Purg/ inferno is flak + personal pref and blaze away + warp nexus.

[tidal steppe]

warp nexus? why not penetrating flame tho

[upper sun]

pen flames is kinda mid

[tidal steppe]

how does it fare in havoc

[strong gulch]

Penetrating flames isn't as good as the blaze away or warp nexus but it's still; it does have a place especially if you don't peril edge.

Crits apply 2 stacks of SB (soulblaze) instead of 1 and purg crits often with its bananas cleave. So you get good mettle procs and EE up time.

[tidal steppe]

ah okay

[summer prairie]

maybe decent if your team also has rending trauma

[strong gulch]

Ye.

[tidal steppe]

waht stats do u want for blaze force sword?

[strong gulch]

And with rending trauma with blaze away purg/ inferno you don't have to worry about preventing blaze away from being applied, because SB ownership apparently matters with blaze away.

[strong gulch]

Dump warp resist.

[tidal steppe]

ah i see

[tidal steppe]

does it not matter>

[strong gulch]

Basically dump warp resist on all force weapons except voidSTRIKE (dump blast radius on that one).

[strong gulch]

It does matter because WR doesn't have as hard of scaling, our kit wants to be at higher peril, and the other stats offer more.

However, you don't have to adhere to meta.

[tidal steppe]

yea

waht blessings or perlks?

for blaze force

[marble crater]

Which one?

[tidal steppe]

oh mb

blaze force great sword

i picked momentum and blazing spirit they seem good

[marble crater]

Carapace, Unyielding, Wrath and last blessing your choice of riposte, shred, deflector and yeah momentum is just comfy

Blazing Spirit on melee is sadly not good

[tidal steppe]

is blazing spirit not good

[upper sun]

it kinda doesnt do anything

[strong gulch]

nope

[tidal steppe]

ah okay ggood to know

[strong gulch]

yeah. It's poop.

I WANT it to be good.

[upper sun]

by the time you apply stacks of soulblaze the melee target should already be dead

[marble crater]

No, procs on crit and only what you hit, so by the time the fire deals damage you have hit them again and they are dead anyway

[nocturne dust]

FATSHAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRKKKKKK GIVE ME FIRE SWORRRRRRRDDDDDDD

[upper sun]

if its not dead ie a boss/crusher then soulblaze doesnt do shit to them

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sword-granblue-fantasy-relink-fighting-back-mob-fight-fire-gif-16516767

[marble crater]

If only Blazing Spirit would apply to the greatsword special

[upper sun]

make it give soulblaze stacks on heavy attack

[nocturne dust]

Would still kinda be crap

Blazing Spirit really needs to be on hit and not on crit

[marble crater]

On hit blaze trauma? Okay

[nocturne dust]

Melee Blazing Spirit*

[marble crater]

Killjoy

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-ryan-reynolds-grin-gif-4553503

[strong gulch]

It would be an upgrade even if the SB cap on force sword was brought down from 12 to 6 and SB applied on hit.

Would it be good, no

[nocturne dust]

They could also go the inverse direction and make it stack up to 31

Then it would be boss muncher

[strong gulch]

Maybe wrath + warp splitting (and idk if special would count).

[marble crater]

Gimme blazing, gimme fire, give me spirit that I desire

[tidal steppe]

i have no idea how to charge up blaze force great sword

[marble crater]

Kills in melee or enemies you hit and then they get killed shortly after by your team

[strong gulch]

Higher priority targets charge the meter more.

There is also the sliding your hand down to the tip of the blade then attacking to release the arch. Completing that sliding animation vs attacking early does impact damage/

idk all of the nuances tho

[tidal steppe]

how do i keep it charged up?

jsut killing enemies?

[strong gulch]

Keep killing to fill the meter.

If you use the special, all of your current meter will be used.

[tidal steppe]

got it ty

[plucky flax]

I told other psyker in team to go trauma since I'm already burga but he went voidstrike.

[marble crater]

There is no trauma staff

[nocturne dust]

[inland ice]

if i saw this shit id take shredder autopistol

[plucky flax]

Do it.

It'll be funny in havoc.

[strong gulch]

Can't even tell is this was a troll move. Thanks fatshark.

[marble crater]

We hate voidblast

[bold cape]

wtf is a voidblast

[plucky flax]

Oof zealot triggered DH and then he didn't run around the med kit I put down so he died then other 2 guys died and we wiped.

1 mil damage with bubble burga in 24 mins tho

[strong gulch]

renamed trauma staff

[nocturne dust]

It's kinda like Voidstrike and Voidblaze, and Voidshock

[bold cape]

voidshock…

[radiant frigate]

voidbeam when?

[marble crater]

Thanks, I hate it

[strong gulch]

voidblaze

blaze voidblast

[radiant frigate]

voidvortex

[plucky flax]

Huh just realised he played flurry nexus voidstrike.

Zealot with blaze away tier 1 for flex.

The psyker also had most melee damage

[strong gulch]

u right

[plucky flax]

Asian server

[wind spruce]

What the fuck

How is your warpfire twice as much as ranged

[summer prairie]

some lmb spam maybe

[plucky flax]

It's burga? It's natural to have much higher warp compared to direct damage? D:

[summer prairie]

I think that difference is a bit atypical

if you only use rmb

[plucky flax]

Yeah I didn't use much lmb this round.

Wish I could run shriek but this psyker didn't put down a lot of bubbles.

[wind spruce]

Oh mb head always goes to trauma

Like irl

[plucky flax]

[summer prairie]

here's sb higher than ranged damage with surge, though only because "blitz" (kf) damage isn't counted as ranged with Power DI

perfectly normal horde SB damage

[plucky flax]

In ovenproof kf counts as range damage

[summer prairie]

yes

[plucky flax]

Reject power di

[summer prairie]

it's nice to see your blitz damage as a separate category

for assail builds

and I guess you can see what your KF is doing

[plucky flax]

Huge damage

Close to 200k per round?

You had 178k

[summer prairie]

that was a long 3 man havoc and we wiped before the event in dark communion

it's usually maybe 6-8% with surge, a bit lower in havoc due to higher sb damage

[marble crater]

Crashes caused me more losses on dark communion than the enemies

[plucky flax]

Have you tried getting a real pc?

[marble crater]

I'm not sure that would help with what I am reading here sometimes

[summer prairie]

I think I've had the server crash like 4 times this week during a havoc

[marble crater]

After the last hotfix that made finding the cause for crashes easier, I had more crashes

[strong gulch]

Yeah. Whole team crashed are getting in the way of true survivor.

[summer prairie]

close, I tried

[plucky flax]

Unsanctionedsyllo

[nocturne dust]

Havoc seems extra weird in general

I normally lag on weekends but am mostly fine on weekdays. On Havoc, it seems to be reversed

I don't get why I lag in the first place, but it flipping around for a specific mode is so... Fatshark wtf

[radiant frigate]

causing extra havoc

[nocturne dust]

I also definitely DC and crash way more on Havoc than anywhere else

and @hearty wolf can attest to that

[plucky flax]

It's Canadian internet

[nocturne dust]

I'm not even in Canada 😭

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark reroutes my traffic through Canada just to screw with me

[marble crater]

I just want to not crash

[nocturne dust]

I want to not crash, stutter, lag, bug out, float, fall through floors, freeze, or drop inputs.

The things we endure for gameplay.

[marble crater]

Never floated or fell through a floor yet

[nocturne dust]

Floating is fortunately only a rare symptom of lag, I think. Falling through floors though Sometimes it just happens

[radiant frigate]

when cspawn/bonbon/mutie grabs send you to The Backrooms

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-goodbye-leave-disappear-gorbgif-gif-23138036

[radiant frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/283579612695625729/1169005718142206052/sienna_awakens.gif

[narrow bluff]

whats meta for greatsword?

[radiant frigate]

cara unyielding riposte wrath

[plucky flax]

Whatever you want young un

[nocturne dust]

Carapace, Unyielding, whatever blessings you want

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

except warp slice and blazing spirit

[plucky flax]

Crit chance crit damage riposte shred crit maxxing

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[radiant frigate]

realistically fgs just works

you can slap on what you want and it will still perform

[narrow bluff]

wich marks is comfier

[plucky flax]

Whatever you prefer young apprentice

[nocturne dust]

Most people use some combination of wrath, riposte, shred, unstable power

[radiant frigate]

no "make or break" blessings like brumentum/headtaker/slaughterer

[plucky flax]

I like mk6 personally

[radiant frigate]

i also like mk6

[nocturne dust]

There's heavy disagreement. I like mk6

[plucky flax]

Just play both a couple rounds each tho

[narrow bluff]

deflector 86% bcr

[radiant frigate]

people were arguing in favor of mk8 for some reason or another

bottom line? both good

just moveset preference

though mk8 has the better flavor text

[nocturne dust]

Acshtually, the mk6 has better single target dps while the mk8 has better attack angles for horde clear 🤓

but neither difference is all that meaningful

[radiant frigate]

does it slice heretics regardless of size?
yes?
fantastic!

[nocturne dust]

regardless of size

That sounds a lot like a knife user

[radiant frigate]

regardless of heretic size, i should specify

big blade obviously better

[bitter pelican]

holy the inferno staff is so good now

[radiant frigate]

nuh uh

[bitter pelican]

Fellas how do I use the voidstrike

[lilac summit]

shoot heads

[bitter pelican]

Im not a fan so far

[radiant frigate]

point and shoot, militarum style

[deft stump]

Boom boom!

[bitter pelican]

Is it like the surge staff where you spam rmb?

Ive been using warp nexus surge

[radiant frigate]

create suspiciously voidstrike-shaped holes in hordes

that's good

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[lilac summit]

warp nexus warp flurry is my personal fav

[bitter pelican]

ah I see I see

[radiant frigate]

charge to full, let it rip

[bitter pelican]

Ima switch to flurry then

[nocturne dust]

But unlike EK, you have to aim

[nocturne dust]

no

[radiant frigate]

use with disrupt destiny

[nocturne dust]

no

[deft stump]

To be fair, if you don't get it is fine. I still can't use the trauma.

[bitter pelican]

Thank you void

[nocturne dust]

no

[bitter pelican]

oh

Why naur?

[lilac summit]

surge is alright

[deft stump]

You just want to crit loads and double boom.

[nocturne dust]

Surge + warp nexus

[lilac summit]

especially with perfect aim

[deft stump]

BOOM BOOM.

[bitter pelican]

Thats what I have

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is the gambling staff

[bitter pelican]

haven't been liking it

[lilac summit]

flurry is better tho

dont @ me

[nocturne dust]

Combine it with Scrier's

[upper sun]

.

[nocturne dust]

Skill issue

[bitter pelican]

SCIERS

Can you show me a scriers vs build!

That sound sso much fun

[lilac summit]

sorry i cant hear you nerds over me shooting twice as fast which cancels out your surge every 10th shot

[bitter pelican]

thank you

[nocturne dust]

Fair warning, you will be squishy

[bitter pelican]

Im psyker

im always squishy

[nocturne dust]

I can't hear you over all that quelling you have to do

[lilac summit]

he doesnt quell cancel

skill issue clearly

[nocturne dust]

Quell cancel doesn't quell mfer

[deft stump]

I can't hear anything anyway with 3 voidstrikes going off.

[nocturne dust]

[lilac summit]

you can quell cancel without losing flurry stacks

[nocturne dust]

Also with scrier's surge activates over 50% of the time

so you're wrong and stinky

[nocturne dust]

sure. And?

[lilac summit]

you are wronger and stinkier

[radiant frigate]

clearly none of you have been enlightened to the true voidstrike path

[lilac summit]

surge fucks hard with crit builds and perfect aim

thats about it

[radiant frigate]

blazing spirit + surge + true aim

[nocturne dust]

well yes

are you.... not synergizing your builds?

[lilac summit]

nvm we are both bad

kats right

[nocturne dust]

[radiant frigate]

take the melee pill

[lilac summit]

nexus is actually for noobs

[deft stump]

I see, more booms and burn.

[radiant frigate]

we have force greatsword now

you are out of excuses

[deft stump]

Just H2 everything?

[bitter pelican]

Made a minor adjustment and took mettle and perfect timing

Other than that build looks good

[nocturne dust]

uuuuhhhh

Don't

do not

[bitter pelican]

I don't need the 100%+ cleave

[nocturne dust]

There is no 'minor adjustment' to that-

[nocturne dust]

DO NOT

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[bitter pelican]

Im using the Deimos 4

[radiant frigate]

i meant it more like click heads in melee and then do The Funny with a guaranted surge blazing spirit crit

[lilac summit]

lemme just minor adjust that build to use warp siphon instead lol

[nocturne dust]

it works on voidstrike

[radiant frigate]

(blazing spirit actually does nothing on vs do not do this)

[bitter pelican]

IT DOES

NVM

[nocturne dust]

yes

That's why you use it

smh my head

[bitter pelican]

I also took empathic

instead of the other one

[nocturne dust]

You really think I would bother with lightning speed if warp splitting wasn't voidstrike goodness?

[radiant frigate]

what the guh

anticipation

[nocturne dust]

That's... okay

[deft stump]

Oh. I just thought you mean go bonk with H spam.

[nocturne dust]

Anticipation is imo better

because Voidstrike is slow

so EE is not active

[radiant frigate]

also just go bonk because you have big sword that kills everything in melee

[nocturne dust]

and the extra dodge lets you charge better

[radiant frigate]

(hell yeah)

[bitter pelican]

I find if im dodging with the staff out

im fugged already

[nocturne dust]

because you can dodge enough in melee while charging to full blast a fool with anticipation

[bitter pelican]

because my positioning is poopoo

[nocturne dust]

may not be the build for you then

[lilac summit]

minor psa: you can sprint and slide dodge while charging your staffs

[deft stump]

Is big funni sword after all.

[nocturne dust]

better work on that

[bitter pelican]

Ye

I have good positioning.

Especially on oggie.

Working on psyker tho

[nocturne dust]

This build is very punishing if you aren't an expert in not taking damage

[bitter pelican]

Yep im good at dodging and stuff

and I see you have kinetic deflector

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[bitter pelican]

So I took +21 health instead of +3 stam

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmmmm sure

[bitter pelican]

The tanker

Anyway thank you for all your help!

[plucky flax]

Can't be me

[nocturne dust]

Also don't always full charge voidstrike

[bitter pelican]

Dude I know. I've seen your videos and that Asia ping looks like it hits.

Actually used your laspistol build for a while.

[upper sun]

no

[deft stump]

But but but, crusher.

[nocturne dust]

To maximally use voidstrike, you want to get a feel for its BPs and how much charge you need to one shot your target

[upper sun]

always charge max

[nocturne dust]

silence non-psyker

[upper sun]

flak gunner?

max charge

[plucky flax]

Hotel dependant. My current place has good WiFi no more lag

[upper sun]

brusier?

max charge

[plucky flax]

Only a little bit

[nocturne dust]

'don't always' doesn't mean 'never'

Full charge always for big groups and big bois

[hearty wolf]

Literally crashing simulator.

[upper sun]

see

[bitter pelican]

LES FUCKING GOOOO

[radiant frigate]

yes very true

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/interrupt-bo1-cat-connection-slow-gif-13736345

[radiant frigate]

i like when halfcharge doubleshots also decimate things

[bitter pelican]

Surge shots on voidstirke

are the only reason im using it

[deft stump]

If crit.

[bitter pelican]

so satisfying

[nocturne dust]

correct

[upper sun]

@nocturne dust you're asking someone new with voidstaff to memorize how much charge+17 extra various buffs it takes to kill everything

[nocturne dust]

no

[upper sun]

it takes a long time for that

yes

[radiant frigate]

idk why exactly but this talk of dodging and annihilating things with voidstrike reminded me of this ancient creation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72essOdKJIU

[lilac summit]

+5% crit chance on blazing spirit WHEN

[nocturne dust]

I'm asking them to try it out and get a feel for it

[deft stump]

So rng, but so boom boom. And deafness after.

[nocturne dust]

I have memorized 0 voidstrike BPs

I just have a feel for it

[bitter pelican]

how do you spam h2 on the deimos again?

[upper sun]

🙄

[bitter pelican]

I swear there was a tech

[upper sun]

pretty much the same thing

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/paul-gif-25805504

[upper sun]

both just take time

[nocturne dust]

sure

Am I supposed to tell the player to not work on your gaming skills?

Yo, don't practice dodging or sliding

That's bad, you can't do that right now so don't try. Just take bubble.

[bitter pelican]

HOLY SHIT

DUDE

This build rules

thank you void

[nocturne dust]

another satisfied customer

[plucky flax]

Thanks I tried your build and die

[nocturne dust]

l1 -> h2

[plucky flax]

5/7

[nocturne dust]

heavy spam is also viable

[bitter pelican]

Thats what I been doing

But I swore there was like a qq thing

[nocturne dust]

L1 -> h2 is probably worse dps than heavy spam once you add in the block cancel tho

Buuuuutttt I haven't actually tested that

[bitter pelican]

Block cancel?

When do I block to do said cancel

[nocturne dust]

Uh, you block cancel to get the poke l1

instead of a weird diagonal light

[nocturne dust]

After h2

[bitter pelican]

ah ok ok

[nocturne dust]

l1 -> h2 -> block

[bitter pelican]

heavy spam definitely faster with the block cancel

[nocturne dust]

Well I tried your 🅱️istol build and died

5/7, perfect score

[bitter pelican]

As someone who has used both the 🅱️istol and 🅱️laster builds and is 🅱️ipartisan. You guys are both nerds.

[plucky flax]

Sorry only really pro players can use bistol

[nocturne dust]

I literally make spreadsheets and filter through videos frame by frame for data on Darktide. Obviously, I'm not a nerd.

[bitter pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-esp-fish-esp-original-fish-esp-original-gif-1642503408138253394

[plucky flax]

Pog gif

[nocturne dust]

Only top 100% of Psykers can use Voidstrike

Is very difficult to use

[plucky flax]

I feel sad playing voidstrike when surge exist

[nocturne dust]

Okay, but funny weakspot popping noises

[bitter pelican]

Trauma staff is so good

[plucky flax]

Tru the crunch sound hits different

Like cabbages being ripped apart

[zinc phoenix]

Let’s see it

[bitter pelican]

but nah hes right voidstrike is the only other skill based staff

[nocturne dust]

see wat

[summer prairie]

was better before they nerfed the sound

[zinc phoenix]

Le build

[bitter pelican]

like you have to aim it

[nocturne dust]

It's above

somewhere

[zinc phoenix]

I ain’t scrolling a million miles

[nocturne dust]

😭

[zinc phoenix]

Build can’t be found and therefore doesn’t exist

[bitter pelican]

build is here

[plucky flax]

What was the old void sound?

[nocturne dust]

So you expect me to do the work? Smh my head

[bitter pelican]

uses voidstrike with surge and warp nexus

I have flak cara on mine

primary is up to you

[nocturne dust]

I actually use crit chance and maniac on mine

[summer prairie]

kind of similar, only louder

[plucky flax]

My ears are safe

[bitter pelican]

Yeah

Crit chance, flak, maniac, and carapace, are all good

[zinc phoenix]

If you went smite instead of assail you could take perilous kombucha

[bitter pelican]

even unarmoured is worth a shout cause you do hit breakpoints

smite

my beloathed

[winter locust]

smite

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ Eh, it's not a huge dps gain to have only soulblaze as perilous

Assail comes in handy sometimes

[zinc phoenix]

I know why you’re taking assail with void strike bc I ran into the same, I’m just sayin if youre already bowling for specialists/elites may as well light the trash on fire

[winter locust]

smite has its place

[hearty wolf]

yeah, in the bin

[nocturne dust]

but have you considered bowling the trash too?

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike but I use assails 80% of the time

[nocturne dust]

Works very well with Battle Meditation

[zinc phoenix]

Also I’m super doubtful that you’re getting enough out of ER to justify taking it and assail over smite + psyk aura

[nocturne dust]

I am

It's actually great

[zinc phoenix]

Like there’s two ways to go with SG:

• stay in forever
• murderize your way to instant cooldown

I feel like void can easily do no2

[nocturne dust]

ER does no1, and the important part is stacking scrier's buffs

[bitter pelican]

This build kinda does both

which is nice

You have very efficient peril gen and quell

[nocturne dust]

If you instantly blow yourself to warp unbound time, you don't get much of the stacking buffs from scrier's

[bitter pelican]

WAIT

[zinc phoenix]

Unless you’re headshotting for the stacking modifiers

[bitter pelican]

Mutants are maniac now?

I thought they were infested

or unyielding

[hearty wolf]

When...weren't they?

[nocturne dust]

always have been?

[zinc phoenix]

Mutants have been maniac since beta

[bitter pelican]

zamn

I got the stupid

[hearty wolf]

Strong ass infested xd

[nocturne dust]

Even then, it hits warp unbound so quickly it's not okay

[bitter pelican]

Idk

They're all goopy gooed up I was using my context clues

I guess it makes sense because they're just big boy ragers

[zinc phoenix]

What curios are you doing? Anything special with the stick or just nexus surge flakiac?

[nocturne dust]

and also you lose part of scrier's in warp unbound

like warp unbound is great