#psyker-class

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plucky flax
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Trauma is also meta.

tacit stump
deft stump
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Shouldn't you basically get it spamming assail anyway?

tacit stump
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assail fly around weirdly you hit with it more often flamer tanks aswell

marble crater
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Assail is not always a headshot

deft stump
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Ah. Guess is just luck then.

tacit stump
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i did it as vet

deft stump
marble crater
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Zealot with throwing knives chadgryn

deft stump
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Seriously, if anyone can consistently use throw knives on controller, just how?

tacit stump
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i play this game m&kb

marble crater
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Back paddles and remapping the buttons through software, that's what I do

radiant frigate
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what paddles

deft stump
radiant frigate
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are we in a boat

deft stump
radiant frigate
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and these are called paddles?

marble crater
deft stump
radiant frigate
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fascinating

deft stump
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Mostly easy turbo feature.

marble crater
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Without remapping or extra paddles it's a huge pain though, because then they are on the DPAD if you want to dodge properly

deft stump
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And the default is dook.

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Yeah, you even want bumper dodge.

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So ping is a nightmare.

marble crater
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There is no good layout, just ones that are less bad

deft stump
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Will agree.

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Bumper dodge is probs the best.

marble crater
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That's the one I use and then changed some buttons. Ping on the right bumper and then combat ability and blitz to the two paddles

deft stump
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Ah. I kept special attack on right paddle and sprint on the other.

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Or I just can't slide lul

marble crater
deft stump
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Tried without. Went no sprint one run.

tacit stump
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hall effect controller with paddles could be neat

marble crater
deft stump
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If you get the old old one.

tacit stump
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gulikit kk3 max?

deft stump
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So turbo and funny gyro included.

deft stump
bitter pelican
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hello fellow spark heads what to run on fgs?

tacit stump
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i use the gulikit kingkong 2 pro

upper sun
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fgs has good base stats and weaker blessings

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perks are pretty much between carapace unyielding flak and elites

marble crater
tacit stump
upper sun
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brutal momentum and thrust chadgryn

deft stump
tacit stump
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i don't get myself wired controllers anymore to many died by me through cablebreaks

bitter pelican
deft stump
tacit stump
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idk

quartz barn
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Maybe stop throwing them thumbsup_ogryn

tacit stump
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had by my xbox one controller stickdrift that Shit was annoying

marble crater
tacit stump
deft stump
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The warranty here is 1 month.

upper sun
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oh wait wait

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i fugged up

quartz barn
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For havoc just swap shriek with bubble

tacit stump
upper sun
bitter pelican
upper sun
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last point is your choice between EE battery or KD

deft stump
upper sun
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what do you wanna play?

bitter pelican
upper sun
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you get relic

bitter pelican
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psyker?

upper sun
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nah ill do zealot you do w/e you want

bold cape
upper sun
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my brain deleted all my psyker knowledge i dont trust myself to play psyker on auric anymore 😭

bold cape
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i think controllers are built like shit and are very prone to issues and wear
and some people are way unluckier than others in that regard

deft stump
marble crater
upper sun
bitter pelican
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yeah

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come play

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I have an open spot

marble crater
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Yeah, very happy with Gamesir

nocturne dust
bitter pelican
deft stump
quartz barn
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Me reading this being stuck at work Sitgryn

maiden oracle
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How do you deal with a large group of specials/gunners with brain burst

upper sun
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its too early for vc

bold cape
bitter pelican
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ok

tacit stump
bitter pelican
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copy my code

maiden oracle
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Do you just target one and dodge slide behind cover while charging

nocturne dust
bitter pelican
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but I wanted to use the inferno purge staff with the force great swod and nort the dueling sword

quartz barn
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Ye but im still at havoc 35..

bitter pelican
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I know not the break points

upper sun
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launching the game

bitter pelican
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thanks

maiden oracle
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Is the melee attack on the staffs ever used or is it just worthless

quartz barn
bitter pelican
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I need a nerd!

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help

marble crater
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Do you have room for one more who can throw the game?

deft stump
bitter pelican
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at your nearest conveinece please.

marble crater
ornate hamlet
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hello, what mark do you use for dueling sword?

marble crater
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4

bold cape
marble crater
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Heresy

ornate hamlet
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I see, thanks folks

bold cape
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introducing: force greatsword!!!!

deft stump
ornate hamlet
tacit stump
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illisi special should be shanged

tacit stump
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to a off/on mode

deft stump
deft stump
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I thought you wanted hard changes.

tacit stump
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makes it easier to explode with the shange cause void increase per strike

marble crater
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@upper sun are you vuys in a mission yet? staregryn

tacit stump
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risk/reward

marble crater
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They are loregryn

tacit stump
marble crater
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It would be staff specials

tacit stump
deft stump
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Is just, I don't wanna give up being annoying and all.. "I'm stroking my sword now."

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Because ragers.

tacit stump
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sunmons a second sword out of assail shards and start to dual wield

tacit stump
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after some time

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deactivate the mode before

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and each hit transfers peril

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stabs more then slashes

deft stump
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I just want my Illisi to glow more after being stroked.

tacit stump
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i would need another force sword mark for peril transfer

tacit stump
deft stump
tacit stump
deft stump
tacit stump
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powersword has same Problem but atleast they have the cycler blessing

deft stump
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Yep.

radiant frigate
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force cycler..

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imagine on fgs

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three level three beams

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bye bye crusher pack

tacit stump
radiant frigate
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time to slice reality

upper sun
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john gramaticus post ^

tacit stump
deft stump
tacit stump
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gentsuga tenshƍ?

deft stump
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Or we DRG now.

tacit stump
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third mark does vertical now

tacit stump
deft stump
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Or just breach cutter fired thrice.

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Just decimates everything quickly.

tacit stump
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vertical one should decimate crushers and bullwarks in its line

radiant frigate
deft stump
tacit stump
quartz barn
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To set it apart from fgs now

tacit stump
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illisi needs a toggle

deft stump
quartz barn
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Im thing of a charge similar to the fgs

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But up to 5 or smt

quartz barn
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Special attack is the same as the fgs special but is smaller and only consumes 1 charge per swing

radiant frigate
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so, minor sword beams

quartz barn
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And then you end up with that one weapon from elden rings dlc

deft stump
quartz barn
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The dual sword one

radiant frigate
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i am guessing twin moon swords?

quartz barn
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That one yes

radiant frigate
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haven't played it

quartz barn
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Would post a gif but am on phone Sitgryn

radiant frigate
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what dey do

deft stump
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I guess to go with the fgs being moonlight gs.

quartz barn
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Special light attack is 5 part magic wave

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Special heavy is fire spin

radiant frigate
quartz barn
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We dont have the nice dunk sound on overhead like sullivahn has Sitgryn

radiant frigate
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but we do have overheads

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and we don't have the chonky teal blade

deft stump
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Just can't get used to how slow it is, and the buffed dodge on Illisi just...

radiant frigate
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it's really not that slow

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especially considering how it dunks on everything

deft stump
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This coming from someone who uses knife on zealot. Speed. Heh.

radiant frigate
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knife? incomprehensible

deft stump
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I know, I used it for abit.

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I just feel like in pubs, you will get left behind if you use anything heavy.

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Unless you running speed but heavy weapon zealot stuff.

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Because trying to chase after zealots with the fgs and staff...

radiant frigate
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can use fgs and laspistol too

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or reconlas

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both quite zippy

deft stump
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I didn't build guns on my Psyker lul.

radiant frigate
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plus not all zealots are ds4 or knife

deft stump
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Only Zealot.

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It's a weird thing.

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My vet has all melees.

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My zealot has all guns.

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Psyker is all staves but trauma atm. And the force swords.

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By that, i mean either close to 500 perfect rolls or actually perfect 500.

radiant frigate
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fgs is still ok mobility

deft stump
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I never go near Ogryn so Shrugs.

radiant frigate
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ogryn might be playable now

marble crater
radiant frigate
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with the new stubbers

deft stump
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Is more, I can't get used to heavy everything.

radiant frigate
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finally a ranged weapon with range

deft stump
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And lights suck on Oggy.

radiant frigate
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ogryn melee leaves much to be desired

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why give ogryn weapons with varied movesets when everything in the talent tree just wants you to mash heavy

deft stump
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More or less.

nocturne dust
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which is pretty not ok

radiant frigate
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anything that isn't negative mobility is ok in my book

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except ogryn stuff

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fuck ogryn weapons

nocturne dust
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wish we got the version of Darktide where Ogryns were zippy

deft stump
azure rapids
deft stump
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Cos not even 16? Bars of stam will help.

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It's 14 with Illisi. I assume fgs gives 2 extra.

radiant frigate
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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all i know is fgs feels good

nocturne dust
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It would feel better with more speeeeeeeed

quartz barn
radiant frigate
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Yes

quartz barn
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Sprint speed is lower

radiant frigate
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staff has negative sprint

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fgs has neutral

strong gulch
quartz barn
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Wait why am i faster with purg then

radiant frigate
nocturne dust
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You shouldn't be.

radiant frigate
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but mayhap mettle

nocturne dust
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Maybe you just had a weird buff timing, yeah

quartz barn
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Eh i only notice it at the start of a mission

nocturne dust
deft stump
nocturne dust
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Maybe vet move speed aura?

quartz barn
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Im always last man Sitgryn

strong gulch
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I am not good with FGS. I haven't used it enough. I was trying to play with it in the meat grinder and I could not dodge bonbon puke while standing in front of it.

I probably just need to dodge sooner, but I don't have an issue with other melee options.

radiant frigate
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bigsword zealot would not be much faster tbf

quartz barn
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Meanwhile ds + dd speedboost let you skip the entire carnaval start with the scan

deft stump
nocturne dust
quartz barn
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Ye ok but the difference...

deft stump
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Sometimes even outrun with 0 stam while they are still with stam.

quartz barn
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Also dd on fgs i guess

wind spruce
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You gotta be actively killing while moving for DD to help

quartz barn
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As you should be

strong gulch
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No just scuttle away like crab?? (even if ur bad?)

quartz barn
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I usually mow while moving forward, gain charge and shoot backwards into whatever i skipped

nocturne dust
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Seems like a dangerous game

quartz barn
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Also speedboost still helps with scuttle walk because of the extra distance on slide

deft stump
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Or running agile to crab dodge away?

strong gulch
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tbf I had brain fog issues but I'm also bad

deft stump
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Just spam lights at head lvl and panic.

nocturne dust
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No, crab scuttle is expert level chadgryn

strong gulch
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at head level. 😭 Sitgryn

deft stump
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I mean, it only resets on weakspots.

strong gulch
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I consistently don't aim high enough

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it's a way of life at this point

marble crater
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Make your character taller, problem solved

deft stump
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Yes.

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Tallest zealot because.

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Friend asked why. Me lazy. Want poke hed.

upper sun
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tall people aim better

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this is a well known fact

strong gulch
nocturne dust
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I went from short to tall and can confirm

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my dps went way up

deft stump
marble crater
strong gulch
deft stump
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No mod needed as well, I think.

marble crater
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Back then staregryn

strong gulch
deft stump
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But mod.

marble crater
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Take a screenshot KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
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oh true

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butt mod

deft stump
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When?

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I want hips on my lady ffs.

strong gulch
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Idk. I would use it.

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Have you seen the saggy bottoms on psyker peg leg? 😭

deft stump
nocturne dust
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I would just like facial customizations and hair that isn't awful.

marble crater
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Good luck with that

nocturne dust
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This is why we wear masks.

strong gulch
marble crater
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40k doesn't have anyone who can cut hair. Trillions of people and not a single hairdresser or barber KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
deft stump
strong gulch
deft stump
nocturne dust
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He probably does use a power saw

deft stump
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Oh.

cosmic sigil
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It's part of a penance IIRC

strong gulch
deft stump
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Still not thicc enough.

strong gulch
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no

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We need the sims modders to get into DT modding.

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Or maybe the BG3 people. (they might be the same people)

deft stump
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I don't want THICC though.

cosmic sigil
deft stump
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Just Dawnbreaker thicc.

strong gulch
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I have no idea modding works btw. What is code?

deft stump
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It's no secret though.

deft stump
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Look, I'm gay for ladies. We all have tastes. Throw me a Dom librarian type with Dukane's outfit and you get me hook line and sinker. Bonus if she has long hair.

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Now I have mental images of a Farseer playing dress up and mocking me.

marble crater
main wyvern
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When's the next psyker patch

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I want a force dagger

sullen whale
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ok but why is he so scary

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bro tried on mom's lipstick

potent echo
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he has become the joker

upper sun
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lets punish leavers :333!!!!!

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Yeah do that when you hsave stable servers fatshork

nocturne dust
quartz barn
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I dont think you want to flex being down all the time...

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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Nobody can rival it chadgryn

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I have a match recorded where I literally lag out every like twenty seconds during the end event

marble crater
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Nothing worse than getting a big lag spike, followed by 20 seconds of gameplay where you can't interact with anything, because you know you will crash

deft stump
nocturne dust
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but then I'd have to count

deft stump
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I wanna have an excuse to reeeeeeeeeee at the servers.

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Since they aren't great tbh.

jovial gust
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How come the Atheneum lists only one perk for the Saul?

jovial gust
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Do the Vigilant Autoguns work well against Crushers? I want to play a Gunker with a bad Carapace weapon

nocturne dust
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Gunker lacks real carapace killers. Revolver works.

quartz barn
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You usually just melee carapace on gunker

lethal lagoon
deft stump
lethal lagoon
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Begone

upper sun
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recon is a perfectly balanced weapon ok?

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
upper sun
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there is nothing OP about being able to burn pus hardened enemies from orbit with very high ammo efficiency

deft stump
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No, I mean rending recon memes.

upper sun
lethal lagoon
deft stump
lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
deft stump
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All i know is you can do stupid rending memes to melt crushers on vet with recon.

lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
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The rending node

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Dummy

lethal lagoon
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If I had a child who called a random node no one knows PotS, I'd disown them.

deft stump
lethal lagoon
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Oggy is easy, just always keep something in melee range and bonk.

nocturne dust
deft stump
lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
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cuz it doesn't work

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at all

lethal lagoon
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Turns out the pots were made from plastic

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No cracking here

nocturne dust
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Well it's 'of the soul' so

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plastic souls?

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also I haven't slept and that is bad

strong gulch
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The pots node gives enemies pots. Take that. Have fun with ur heart and blood issues.

deft stump
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Oh yeah, is it better to slot Flak or carapace on EK staff?

nocturne dust
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flak

strong gulch
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Flak

deft stump
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Assuming crits for the other.

nocturne dust
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no

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I use unyielding

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it helps with reaper/bulwark BPs in addition to boss, and you don't want any of them sticking around anyway

deft stump
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Ah.

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So, I shouldn't use the surge/warp nexus blessings?

nocturne dust
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uhm wait

strong gulch
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Maniacs or unyielding are the real second options.

I'm an unyielding enjoyer.

nocturne dust
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are you going for lmb or rmb spam

deft stump
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I use both.

nocturne dust
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Surge is for lmb

deft stump
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Someone told me to run that.

nocturne dust
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flurry for rmb

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nexus on both

nocturne dust
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lmb sucks

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It's very boring and doesn't actually do that great damage unless you setup a macro which feels pretty cheaty

deft stump
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I mean, I think surge only work on RMB for strike.

nocturne dust
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uh no

lethal lagoon
deft stump
nocturne dust
deft stump
nocturne dust
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Yes, you would only use surge on EK for lmb spam

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You would replace it with flurry for RMB

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and use nexus for either case

deft stump
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Ah.

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It's just funny on strike.

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My ears die though.

nocturne dust
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Curse you Fatshark

nocturne dust
deft stump
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It's LOUD.

nocturne dust
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The best part of voidstrike is the noise

deft stump
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Like thunderstorm loud.

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I'm kinda autistic.

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Loud noises don't go well.

nocturne dust
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It's not that loud?

deft stump
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It's like shooting in L4D, most guns are too loud but the vol can't be changed.

nocturne dust
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It's pretty normal noise for Darktide

lethal lagoon
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I have to leave my house during leafblower season

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Surge had a bug for a while where if it hit the smoke it would be blindingly bright

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Like eye damage bright

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That was fun

deft stump
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It's just louder that most other noises.

lethal lagoon
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What about mutants?

nocturne dust
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mmmmmm not imo but đŸ€·â€â™‚ïž I don't have your ears

deft stump
nocturne dust
deft stump
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As in, the exploders.

lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
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wat

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u think VS loud?

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u wot m8?

deft stump
lethal lagoon
deft stump
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Is why I value a healing stim way higher.

lethal lagoon
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More like I'm fucking sure.

lethal lagoon
deft stump
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Between being basically blind or seeing things.

deft stump
nocturne dust
deft stump
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If my team don't ping, I can't see much.

nocturne dust
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The other is tren btw

deft stump
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Unless the enemy is shooting las at me.

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Some say it's just my eyes, but tbh. if you know Crime Boss? Cagnali fortress lights do the exact same effects.

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Some say it's just overstimulation.

nocturne dust
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I have sensitive eyes

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white paint has given me headaches

deft stump
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Glowy white is just, yeah.

nocturne dust
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It's why I have a screen dimmer on my computer KEKW_ogryn

hearty dagger
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Hi psyker chat

nocturne dust
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Most people go 'how can you see anything' when they see the actual darkness of my screen

hearty dagger
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Would be funny

lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
nocturne dust
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......directional microphone?

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Mmmmmmm that doesn't sound right

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shotgun microphone

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I think that's it loregryn

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Doesn't feel right though, lol.

marble crater
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That reminds me that I also need to fix something about my mic audio, I don't want to hear myself talking through the headset

fluid charm
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How do quell cancel assail, i just started psyker and felt like something i should learn first

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Should i be seeing peril being in the single digits after two lmb assails?

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there's no guide in youtube so im not sure

marble crater
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Can we quell cancel assail? sus

fluid charm
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It says so in the Atheneum

nocturne dust
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Dunno

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I don't even bother to quell cancel staves

marble crater
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Honestly, if you are just starting psyker you don't need to learn this, imo. I have almost 400 levels on psyker and don't quell cancel anything

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You can of course learn to do it later once you have the more basic psyker stuff down

fluid charm
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Ohhhhh okok

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But for reference what should i be seeing

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Like is it just for faster rof?

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And not for peril management?

marble crater
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Yes, because quell cancel is used to skip the animation

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On Elektro staff for example you can skip the animation by doing it and increase your damage by a lot, because you can just cast it more often in the same timeframe

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But it's not needed to clear the most difficult content in the game and your hands will hate it too KEKW_ogryn

deft stump
burnt gazelle
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yeah, it's not ever actually required to quell cancel

fluid charm
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Ohhh icic i'll keep that in mind thank you

hearty dagger
jovial juniper
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2 - That gave me an idea

hearty dagger
median sorrel
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is it normal to get a headache after exploding two dozen poxwalkers with my mind

haughty star
ornate hamlet
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I LOVE THE FGS I LOVE THE FGS I LOVE THE FGS I LOVE THE FGS

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Ah, the tunnel vision into getting sniped.

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that sniper wacked the fuck outta me 😂

haughty star
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Its surprisingly balanced

radiant frigate
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i would hate that

ornate hamlet
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As soon as I saw that laser show up lol.

patent mango
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greatsword gaming

haughty star
radiant frigate
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gamesword greating

haughty star
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I like how fgs isn't downright better than either other force sword

ornate hamlet
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But that is pretty nice. That version reminds me of the Deimos with the second heavy being a beefy poke.

haughty star
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Its kind of a middling point

ornate hamlet
haughty star
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The charge is pretty op but I wish it wouldn't be lost by taking literally any damage lol

ornate hamlet
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ah

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the unfortunate fatshart game design

patent mango
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i think thats a bug (maybe)

radiant frigate
ornate hamlet
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I keep thinking if it was a kreigmesser, and seeing all the curved sword memes.

quartz barn
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But can you style on teammates by killing enemies through walls with the regular force sword

haughty star
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I mean technically, yes?

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Melees always gone through walls for what ever reason

quartz barn
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No i meant the special of fgs

patent mango
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oh did they add 1 handed force swords to the game?

quartz barn
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Spam that shit in airlocks to preclear rooms and buildnup peril

radiant frigate
patent mango
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probably a typo

haughty star
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I been dabbling in illisi again and it's pretty insane on my fucked up melee build

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The dodges were a massive improvement

radiant frigate
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fucked up little 1h creature

haughty star
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Literally brainrot

radiant frigate
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drain bamage

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(yuge)

deft stump
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Halp. How do ppl trauma???

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I just don't get it and it somehow sucks on stairs?

edgy garnet
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directly under the feet of whatever you want to hit, longer charge = more damage, aoe, and stagger

ornate hamlet
burnt gazelle
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it's an arc basically

edgy garnet
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its goofy on stairs yeah, but you can still use it, i think its just the visual of it

haughty star
radiant frigate
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probably!

deft stump
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Best blessings and perks as well?

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Just decided to lvl it.

radiant frigate
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flak crit blazing nexus

deft stump
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Blazing?

burnt gazelle
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blazing spirit

deft stump
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Yes, I'm questioning why.

analog agate
burnt gazelle
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it spreads soulblaze in a really large area

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every time you crit

quartz barn
#

Run a trauma with shriek and warp charges and you clear faster than purg

burnt gazelle
#

the radius is quite a bit large than the inner radius of the trauma hit

quartz barn
#

Dmg output can be slightly lower however

deft stump
#

Oh.

burnt gazelle
quartz barn
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Nah not oh

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Because overal dmg is tied to soulblaze

analog agate
#

This is standard blaze build

quartz barn
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Trauma is better imo because of crowd control

radiant frigate
#

trauma is like purg if it had no boss damage and fucked up armor instead

deft stump
#

That just looks like my inferno build minus the fact I go bubble.

burnt gazelle
#

being cornered as a trauma psyker is just the point where you just calmly cast trauma at your own feet repeatedly until the gigantic mixed horde all dies

radiant frigate
#

blaze trauma is like smite except actually lethal

haughty star
deft stump
radiant frigate
#

skipping crit on blaze trauma seems bold

burnt gazelle
#

well it's not really panicked because i've done it a billion times now

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but yeah you can just have a ton of stuff on you and you just cast it and the ragers/shotgunners/specials/horde are all dead from soulblaze and all the maulers and crusher are cc'd until they die in the centre point

haughty star
#

Inner tranquility is really powerful with empirical resolve because ER is multiplicative of other reductions

analog agate
#

This is my personal blaze build for carrying mael

ornate hamlet
#

flak/crit or flak/maniac on voidstrike?

haughty star
#

Either is fine

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Id go crit just cuz funny yellow balls go brr and surge procs define breakpoints alot for void

deft stump
#

Ah. But skipping quietude and expenditure?

haughty star
#

Expenditure should literally almost always be skipped

ornate hamlet
#

and i feel like double balls alr 1 shot all flak

haughty star
deft stump
ornate hamlet
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but thats without maniac perk

haughty star
haughty star
ornate hamlet
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bc i feel like u alr 1 shot most flak with double balls

pliant coral
#

empyric shock talent bugged?

burnt gazelle
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it doesn't work on purg

haughty star
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Without surge proc

upper sun
#

mods push back his hairline

pliant coral
#

it's a debuff so it won't show in bottom of the screen

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(enemy debuff not player buff)

analog agate
#

I have found vampire more consistent on blaze trauma

upper sun
#

have u tried being luckier?

analog agate
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No, maybe I should

upper sun
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tbh

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i tried both

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and my own conclusion is that the one you believe in works better most of the time

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so i have to bully everyone who picks otherwise or else itll stop working

ornate hamlet
marble crater
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I tried to test both but buffs not showing up made it difficult

upper sun
#

BELIEVE...

marble crater
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No staregryn

haughty star
deft stump
#

I just have no clue how you even get stacks.

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I just don't kill even on malice.

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3 max charges to kill anything means I get ksed so often.

burnt gazelle
#

charges of what?

marble crater
#

Git gud

deft stump
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The altfire.

burnt gazelle
#

trauma?

deft stump
#

3 maxed booms to kill, yeah.

burnt gazelle
#

stuff on malice has lower hp and there are less things so that kinda makes sense

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on damnation when 20 ragers come in, you ahve a similar ttk on all the ragers at once

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whereas your teammates are mostly killing them 1 by 1

haughty star
#

Same reason ep smite is so disgusting

deft stump
#

If so, shouldn't they die faster?

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I simply just never had charges unless the 4% happened.

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Or I pushed a boomer.

vernal temple
#

this is such an unstable, yet stupidly fun build

burnt gazelle
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I think there is less stuff so your team is focus firing elites more and ksing you.

it is harder for your team to ks all of like 15 shotgunners + 2 bulwarks + 10 ragers before you kill a bunch of them with the blast (and then perilous combustion burns down some of the rest)

there are probably also things you can do to proactively get more warp charges that you aren't currently doing

upper sun
vernal temple
burnt gazelle
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like I would assume if I was playing malice I'd just run ahead and kill all the elites first

deft stump
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If I were faster than 2 zealots, maybe.

burnt gazelle
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what melee weapon do you use?

deft stump
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Illisi.

burnt gazelle
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hmm okay

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do you slide sprint much?

deft stump
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Yes, but how fast it is is a dice throw.

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Sometimes it goes, sometimes it's like sliding in place.

burnt gazelle
#

if players are consistently running ahead of you they are likely to hog elite kills (this is one reason people run ahead in pubs). esp in malice where there is lower density of enemies.

do you use the uncharged attack?

deft stump
#

Primary? Yes.

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If you mean quick alt, only if horded.

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To buy time to switch.

burnt gazelle
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I mean the lmb attack

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where it shoots the bolts

deft stump
#

Yes.

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But mostly to knock things off too far away and such, tbh.

burnt gazelle
#

those are surprisingly good at suppressing/killing gunners, snipers, bombers, flamers, etc at long range if you spam a bunch at the head.

sadly gunners now can strafe so you might have to lead them a bit (i suck at this)

also does very large amounts of suppression so you can use it to silence reapers/a gunner line if one got set up

deft stump
#

Oh, so same as the strike and EK, I guess?

burnt gazelle
#

yeah, it does noticeably less damage for me because i'm running surge on EK/void and void has DD too, but still a useful tool

ornate hamlet
#

if it came down to either kintetic flayer or kinetic deflection, which one do u guys think would be better to have in the build?

burnt gazelle
#

mostly though I remember being a new player and not being able to get warp charges; a lot of it is just kinda learning the game, being aggressive enough to get kills on passive spawns, noticing specials first and positioning to deal with them, etc

upper sun
ornate hamlet
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im using combat knife :/

upper sun
#

i had meme builds with both and no one needs to blonk this much

ornate hamlet
#

i took kd off, gonna try this out now

burnt gazelle
#

i like it on knife personally so I can PA spam with zero brain cell activation at all, but you can play without it

ornate hamlet
#

idk

ornate hamlet
#

but kflayer so fun

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might take off empathetic evasion

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for it

haughty star
#

On what kinda build? On surge it's a worthwhile drop imo

ornate hamlet
#

yea lightning staff knife

burnt gazelle
#

i pick kd prob too much to be optimal, because it's stupidly powerful enough to get me out of situations where i made dumb decisions and should just die, and it makes a lot of unsafe rezzes safe

ornate hamlet
#

heres the build for now

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i feel like im wasting a talent point by going prescience

burnt gazelle
#

do you need IFR for lmb spam EK?

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I haven't played it in havoc or anything but in aurics I feel liek I can usually get warp charges reliably enough from just spamming staff at elite packs

ornate hamlet
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im not doing lmb spam, im zapping them

burnt gazelle
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oh ok

ornate hamlet
#

not tryna be different but i feel like lmb spam so boring and kinda cringe

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imagine needing a macro to play your game 😂

burnt gazelle
#

it's still like stupid damage even if you just clickspam tbh

ornate hamlet
#

tru..

haughty star
burnt gazelle
#

yeah, I have seers on my build

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and cdr on curios cos i wanna shriek off cd and steal all the trash kills

ornate hamlet
burnt gazelle
#

the extra point could give you kd or some other node

quartz barn
#

Lets go vacation time

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Time to actually push for havoc 40

burnt gazelle
#

I look forwards to christmas pubs 😂

quartz barn
#

Hey wtf

burnt gazelle
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you're in the discord you don't count 😛

quartz barn
#

I am good player yes thumbsup_ogryn

deft stump
burnt gazelle
#

nah ppl have a quell cancel macro

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that's more complicated

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the semiauto->auto stuff is a mod called fullauto

quartz barn
#

Tech is cool and all but it wouldnt surprise me if a qc macro got people killed in havoc

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Because of the lower vent speed

tulip kettle
#

the quell cancel isnt to quell any peril

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its to reset the attack animation

burnt gazelle
#

i was playing a havoc in some timezone ages away cos i wasn't paying attention and trying to edge peril at what felt like 15 frames was fun

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i love dropped packets as psyker-

quartz barn
#

I didnt have issues with quelling but i kept getting clipped by overheads

quartz barn
#

As in, i would get downed by the aoe

tulip kettle
#

you still need to quell your peril manually with a QQ macro the QQ macro just lets you shoot maybe 10% faster than just spamming LMB

quartz barn
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Like bruh

deft stump
#

Oh, I get it, if you spam both you shoot stupid fast and then blow yourself up.

tulip kettle
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yup you shoot then immidiately press quell qhich cancels the backswing of the attack animation, then shoot again which cancels the quell animation

burnt gazelle
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idk how many ppl actually learn qq cancel and can do it manually most of the time

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but it's probably a very small amount compared to macro

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whereas speeding up rmb surge by wep switch is slightly more common

quartz barn
#

Its hard coded usually

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Like you dont even have to think about it

tulip kettle
#

i can qq cancel and use it occasionally, i dont have a macro, generally just using fullauto to spam is fine

haughty star
tulip kettle
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qq cancelling is mainly used when i REALLY need to crit like NOW to save myself with EE

burnt gazelle
#

oh huh that makes sense

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yeah clickspam is still like stupidly more damage than most lobbies even if other players are cracked and on strong loadouts

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i can't qq cancel manually without fucking it up

tulip kettle
#

i still struggle to slide when i dodge like 30% of the time dude we're all human lol

ornate hamlet
quartz barn
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Because psyker already outdamages

burnt gazelle
#

doing the rmb surge cancel is just really fun tho because i'm trying to killsteal my friend and also it looks cool af

deft stump
#

It also works on inferno, just iffy.

haughty star
#

I don't like rmb quell cuz i can't macro it

analog agate
#

Why not

deft stump
#

But holy if you just need things to back off.

analog agate
#

Lmb, swap blitz, swap to staff
 that would be the macro

quartz barn
#

I purposefully limit my purg lmbs

analog agate
#

Though, tbf I had to dl a mod now to get it working

quartz barn
#

Because its usually better / faster to lmb into rmb

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But only for havoc

analog agate
#

Oh we are talking about inferno. I thought it was EK

burnt gazelle
#

I think I lmb too much on purge so I'm doing less damage but then I see ragers or something running at my team so it's time to lmb spam and control them all up

tulip kettle
#

i doubt it

young cliff
#

Question: what YouTubers would you advise to (watch/avoid at all cost) for some build guidelines for the class?

tulip kettle
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usually people dont lmb enough with flamer and purgatus

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JTClive is a great creator

quartz barn
#

Its not dmg that i really care about, but crits for ee and reaper stagger

deft stump
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I'm just like, does it work on inferno. Ans: Yes. And it's just as stupid.

haughty star
#

I do lol the quell macro is great for that

analog agate
burnt gazelle
#

agentchaos plays good psyker

haughty star
tulip kettle
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and chaos is good though dont tell them it will go their head

analog agate
#

Mhm

haughty star
#

Chaos is good player but bad youtuber

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I still watch his stuff every once in a while

burnt gazelle
#

for build details you can also just ask ppl on here also

quartz barn
#

They would agree

analog agate
#

Tanner just made a new video for meta psyker. Haven’t watched it yet. I am sure Orcka did

quartz barn
#

On a serious note, lot of people dislike tanner because of ass takes

analog agate
#

Some that. And he has said bad things here. Which lead to his ban

young cliff
#

I watched part of what Tanner put, seems informative but even with silver plated info I kinda suck at building sometimes

quartz barn
#

Just know that psyker has a lot of nodes that are good but build dependent

young cliff
#

He also doesn't sound friendly at all

marble crater
quartz barn
#

Yup which is fine

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And you can still decide if certain nodes are worth it for your playstyle

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Ie i see kd as a waste in anything but havoc

marble crater
#

So I wouldn't even call him a darktide youtuber, but a player who posts his gameplay on youtube loregryn

quartz barn
#

Others see it as must have

marble crater
#

KD is a must have for the 1 time in 20 missions where I need it to survive

haughty star
#

It sounds bad but I got rid of it when I started watching my own games

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Just barely ever used it and the spots I did use it i could've reacted differently

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The only real strong suit of kd is hard denial of stun while ressing

near wyvern
analog agate
#

Lol he said that?

near wyvern
#

I promise to be friendly

near wyvern
broken carbon
#

lmfao

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fucking tanner

analog agate
#

Bad take

young cliff
#

I usually want to know the many ways of the meta to deconstruct it to some builds I like

marble crater
#

Try not to be an ass challenge level impossible

prime elk
#

he also insulted ogrynomicon too right?

#

has he said path's vet guide was shit too?

#

last one to complete the trio

#

get on it tanner KEKW_ogryn

marble crater
#

Zealots don't have one yet?

tulip kettle
#

he also says stuff like "this is such a shit X"

tulip kettle
#

when its like, in some builds, X is terrible, but in others its really good if you like that playstyle

young cliff
tulip kettle
#

prime example

#

talking shit on smite is so dumb

#

yes, smite is often used badly by bad players

haughty star
#

People do it all the time here lol

#

Ep smite is strong as fuck

tulip kettle
#

but its often a great tool that used situationally and sparingly is amazing

#

when im running purgatus psyker in havoc and i see another psyker with smite

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im like hell yeah

haughty star
#

Regular smite is a ok tool

tulip kettle
#

i get to burn SO MUCH SHIT

haughty star
#

Great in havoc

young cliff
#

Like, you steal damage from your team from using it...but they get the damage they can do uncontested! How is that bad?

tulip kettle
#

it IS bad

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in the sense that

haughty star
#

Its overpowered as hell

tulip kettle
#

you arent doing DPS

young cliff
#

The duality of MANKIND

haughty star
#

Ep smite does crazy dps

tulip kettle
#

and in some situations DPS is more needed than control

prime elk
haughty star
#

2 seconds to kill one rager vs 5 to kill 50 lol

tulip kettle
#

i tried smite EP for the first time with some fellas from here yesterday

prime elk
#

ep + shriek smite is braindead good

haughty star
prime elk
#

good for you, bad for the rest of the team usually

tulip kettle
#

i ran it with bubble not shriek tho

#

and i was not impressed

prime elk
marble crater
prime elk
#

instead of dming a mod

tulip kettle
#

so then you run closer to flame more feeling safe because of the guy smiting then get instadowned by a lone shooter

#

back to grinding low lvl havoc missions for the penance i go, smite in hand!

prime elk
#

it completes the trifecta of bullshittery

burnt gazelle
#

i played ep smite shriek for the penance and it was strong but i would rather play any of the psyker builds that i actually enjoy since i'm doing more stuff and it feels a lot more cool

smite spamming also made me feel guilty, like playing melee maelstrom with trauma or smth

tulip kettle
#

yeah but at that point

#

its not smite doing dps is it

#

its shriek

#

and i can do that without smite

prime elk
#

no it's both, because shriek synergizes to help maintain infinite smite

#

6 stacks of soulblaze isn't doing that much damage anyway

tulip kettle
#

i mean its enough to refill your EP stacks and kill the trash being smited

#

without the shriek smite does almost nothing

#

the biggest issue with smite i think is that psykers dont need it

#

its for everyone else

prime elk
#

if you're running a smite meme build, you should run shriek anyway

tulip kettle
#

any build we run gives enough cc without smite

prime elk
#

i just don't use smite now these days yeah

young cliff
#

So instead of smite a crowd control build is more shriek and flames for stagger?

tulip kettle
#

no the shriek is for DPS

#

the smite is for crowd control

prime elk
#

shriek + EP + smite for DPS

#

if you just want cc, you can just take smite alone

tulip kettle
#

but you can also CC with trauma, or purgatus, or EK staff etc

young cliff
#

I mean the inferno staff

tulip kettle
#

oh yeah you wouldnt run smiute with inferno

young cliff
#

So pyromaniac

#

Wait smite AND inferno staff?

tulip kettle
#

no

#

you would not use them together

#

one or the other

#

with inferno staff most people use brain burst

#

myself included

young cliff
#

If you forgo inferno for smite, what gun you run?

tulip kettle
#

usually its with a crit focussed gun or maybe voidstrike

#

or EK but i wont recommend that for you

prime elk
#

it actually works very well together

tulip kettle
#

if you want smite, i would take it with venting shriek with creeping flames and then EP keystone

upper sun
#

you really shouldnt use smite with fire staff

#

unless you're with people you trust to deal with snipers

tulip kettle
#

and then probably a bolt pistol and duelling sword

young cliff
#

Ultimate sith lord build

near wyvern
#

The most busted thing about EP smite with creeping flames is that not only is it brain dead top horde DPS, you can still afford to take the LMB staff node and have an infinite ammo and range single target machine gun with decent DPS and a no aim 2 target stun using Electro.

young cliff
#

Ok that Atheneum guide has some really cool specific information I was not expecting to get, thanks for it folks

marble crater
#

Praise be Pygex

young cliff
#

Praise to him (but more to the Omnissiah)

tulip kettle
#

i approve

prime elk
young cliff
#

"This announcement was approved by the Inquisition"

patent mango
#

elden ring reference

jovial juniper
#

Omg Force Greatsword gif hi

near wyvern
#

You only get to do the funny swing after you have killed the horde

marble crater
#

Do orks even need to fact check anything? Can't they just think it's correct and then it will be correct? Or something like that loregryn

celest valve
#

yes/no

#

while a lot of the stuff they do seems to be psykically powered, trying to stretch things too far has explosive results. literally. as in heads exploding I recall

#

also they seem to know what is correctly incorrect

#

like red goes faster

patent mango
#

ork mentioned???

#

quite convenient really

delicate dove
celest valve
#

yes

#

and you don't want your headcanon to be too strong, do you

#

that make headcanon go boom

#

and headcanon go boom bad for brain

delicate dove
#

headglasscanon

haughty star
plucky flax
untold sequoia
#

Hello there, can someone please help me get the "malleus monstronum" penance please?

analog agate
#

I’m 36 min into the Tanner video. Outside of the weird shitting on Pygex he is mostly right so far. He shits on KF and Wildire. Which is true, they are just ok and used as random extra dmg, though he is talking about them out of context.

I am waiting till he gets to Souldrinker though
 cause he is talking about it fondly. Which, due to its position, just isn’t worth it

haughty star
#

Kf is nice mainly cus of quick mutie mitigation

hearty wolf
#

game?

analog agate
#

Also interesting he is saying assail isn’t in meta builds. Which is weird, cause I thought assail is used in gun psyker builds

deft stump
#

And it is still OP as all heck on lower diff.

analog agate
#

Yes, assail is very good on lower difficulties

haughty star
#

Assail is great on high difficulty too lol

near wyvern
haughty star
#

Obviously joking pls don't roast

near wyvern
analog agate
patent mango
#

even on fgs gaming cdr is so nice

analog agate
#

And cause you miss the sweet CDR

patent mango
#

swithc around crystalline will and psykinetics aura đŸ”„

#

(idk if this'd frick up anything tbh)

analog agate
#

It would just be 2 mandatory nodes there

deft stump
#

I kinda feel like giving up on the trauma staff. IDK, it just doesn't work out for me. I keep wanting my inferno back trying to finish masteries the trauma lul.

#

Is like, half the time, I get more work done just pulling out my Illisi and stroking it.

analog agate
#

VB staff is goated in aurics. It loses the status the easier the game is and less enemies there are

patent mango
#

voidblast is such a silly rename

#

its funny

analog agate
#

Also hilarious the name of the current skin in the shop is still “trauma”

patent mango
#

peak

deft stump
#

Well, it gives me and my enemies trauma.

near wyvern
deft stump
#

I know, but I rather save my resources for well.

#

Things I really like?

analog agate
#

Fair lol

near wyvern
#

I would give you some of my resources if I could

#

I don't do anything with them anymore

deft stump
#

Also, upgrading curios.

analog agate
#

I would have so many more of my friends playing if I could give resources

deft stump
#

I need to work on them on my Vet and Zealot.

#

They still use basically blues.

late sapphire
#

Most of the people here are level 10000 havoc 40 nerds with more resources than we can count so its easy to forget low level missions dont give much money

near wyvern
#

At least I can insta mastery the moment a new weapon drops đŸ€·

analog agate
#

Also, now at havoc 40. You can make an insane amount of materials just from playing one match a week

deft stump
#

And maybe get like 17%/21% toughness/HP stuff for my Psyker.

#

Because I really don't think +9 stam memes work other than AFK malice tanking DH jokes.

analog agate
#

Psyker doesn’t need that much stam

late sapphire
#

Some very silly people like to stack stamina and block cost and such but its almost useless

analog agate
#

Stam regen is strong

late sapphire
#

You can just make a lil space and quell to 0 in about two seconds

deft stump
#

And I would kill myself with peril force pushing anyway first.

#

As said, it's more for meme AFK tanking DHs.

#

You just block and face DH, afk till you die from corruption or ded DH.

burnt gazelle
analog agate
#

I can define it for staff builds. I really don’t play gun psyker enough to know. Which is why I asked

patent mango
#

is gun psyker even real in havocs

marble crater
#

For auric just play whatever you want KEKW_ogryn

patent mango
#

ammo is goofed there

deft stump
#

The other reason why I use it is cos I haven't seen any HP higher than 19% and toughness higher than 15%.

patent mango
#

ig assail and stabbing a lot helps

analog agate
deft stump
#

And I hate upgrading non-maxed curios.

late sapphire
#

but voidstrike shriek ws definitely kinda sucks compared to voidstrike sg dd

late sapphire
burnt gazelle
#

you can also wait for regular shop to show you them

#

but i have like 1k hours and never seena 17% toughness for zealot, i just spent melkbucks cos nothing else to spend them on

patent mango
#

gambling is purely skill based

late sapphire
#

i got mine pre crafting update because i was always checking for new blessings

marble crater
#

Facts

deft stump
split lance