psyker-class

[upper sun]

atlas mistook his own body for a fridge

[split lance]

ooooooooooooh

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

:fridge

[lethal lagoon]

Alright tren, it's okay buddy.

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

You'll get this emote thing down one day

[wind spruce]

Bistol is strong but you can't push through trash mobs, control four ragers and 7 specials while dodging snipers and avoiding flame the way you can with assail

Nothing competes with it

[split lance]

[cosmic sigil]

i mean assail with bistol puncture still proces the bleed no?

[wind spruce]

Ohh my b

Probably does

[lethal lagoon]

That was a lot of

[wind spruce]

You know I love to have takes

[split lance]

[wind spruce]

Especially when dominaya's around

[lethal lagoon]

Time isn't real

[wind spruce]

Does that mean he never really blocked me?

[lethal lagoon]

Sure

You can't really block someone on discord anyways

[lethal lagoon]

This is how shriek works

[wind spruce]

Wow @split lance did you really not know this

No wonder you're so small

[split lance]

[lethal lagoon]

My brain when I'm on darktide

smol but sparkly

[split lance]

just like that guy that wasa 160

lol

[lethal lagoon]

The e-girl?

[split lance]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

Bro that comment got him so good, he said out loud he wasn't going to read anymore

[split lance]

lol

[strong gulch]

Seeing this is making me realize that I should have looked at black friday deals on wheelchairs. Missed opportunity.

[nocturne dust]

You're not you when you're on Darktide. Have a snickers.

[split lance]

and then he read my msg saying hes still reading

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

More like snicker at void after you leave the VC

[wind spruce]

HA HA

[lethal lagoon]

(just kidding we love you boo)

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

We both know you hate to see my go but love to see me walk away.

[split lance]

u do got that thang

[nocturne dust]

I have a very big sword.

[lethal lagoon]

Big?

That's average right?

[split lance]

[wind spruce]

I don't own any swords 😦

[split lance]

i told myself i wouldnt watch another episode of house

someone stop me

[lethal lagoon]

It's just one episode

You'll be able to rest better afterwards

[split lance]

kutner just

[lethal lagoon]

instead of rolling around in your sleep

[wind spruce]

Do you wanna be big or not you idiot

[split lance]

eternal rested

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

himself

[wind spruce]

@split lance I destroyed my gains this week by losing almost two nights sleep

And probably next week's too tbh

Ragrets

[upper sun]

have you never seen house before?

[split lance]

ur like 17 youll be fine

[split lance]

no

[wind spruce]

Um im 12

[upper sun]

its good

[lethal lagoon]

Irosk is at least 42

[upper sun]

dont say that

not even as joke

[wind spruce]

But maybe that's almost 17 to a peedough

[split lance]

thatst tos

[upper sun]

discord will ban your ass

[split lance]

and youll get discord banned

yup

[lethal lagoon]

Irosk now has to use identification to access discord

[wind spruce]

ITS TRUE DISCORD I'M SORRY

[nocturne dust]

Don't apologize to Discord

Discord is bad

[wind spruce]

I was apologising for being alive

Sorry again

[split lance]

you should be

[lethal lagoon]

Every Australian does this before bed, as a desperate prayer to keep the spiders away.

[wind spruce]

It's true, all Australians are hard af

[split lance]

an aussie i met on discord told me they were a pdf fil

file

[wind spruce]

It couldn't have been me im supposed to be attracted to children

[split lance]

im sorry

wtf

[wind spruce]

I'm 12

[split lance]

this msg is the one that sent me to bed

[verbal thistle]

"It couldn't have been me im supposed to be attracted to children"

[split lance]

goodnight

[wind spruce]

Remember

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dammaz-kron-dwarf-gif-27703552

[split lance]

just a screenshot for safe measure

[wind spruce]

I'll stop

[plucky flax]

Can confirm aussies are cooler than brits

[wind spruce]

That's what happens when you get rid of all the convicts

Totally cuck your gene pool

[plucky flax]

Prison continent

[wind spruce]

Imagine not having 10,000 km■ p/p

Pathetic other countries

[plucky flax]

Imagine having shit Internet in 2025 tho

[lethal lagoon]

You don't have to

[wind spruce]

Imagine that while also remembering you invented wifi

[radiant frigate]

powerful

[plucky flax]

Some aussie guy created wifi?

[split lance]

mi hungry

[wind spruce]

We do it together

While holding hands

[radiant frigate]

why-fi

[lethal lagoon]

What's funny is that the other person often credited for inventing wifi was austrian.

aus domination

[plucky flax]

Eventually daddy Elon musk gonna give starlink coverage to the whole world. All countries should just pay him

[wind spruce]

That's what you get for copying our name

[plucky flax]

He's able to play online games whilst flying on a plane now

[lethal lagoon]

streaming himself playing poe2 from a plane was such an internet flex

[wind spruce]

Wow, what will he do next

[lethal lagoon]

If starlink was a public company, it would have gone up 10% lmao

[wind spruce]

Hopefully buy apple so the iPhone dies off

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Playing poe whilst under the sea in a subnarine imploding

[wind spruce]

One can only hope

[lethal lagoon]

All my emotes got mixed wtf

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

:boogerfrog:??

[lethal lagoon]

[strong gulch]

Mine works. cool

[plucky flax]

[marble crater]

What happened here?

Talking about Austria?

[plucky flax]

My favourite painter is from there.

[upper sun]

i like Gustav Klimt too

[plucky flax]

Inb4 I'm banned for jokes

[upper sun]

i saw the kiss in person

[plucky flax]

Unsanctioned humour

[upper sun]

no we're clearly talking about gustav

[plucky flax]

Yes

Of course

[upper sun]

yes ofc

https://tenor.com/view/gustav-klimt-gustav-klimt-beautiful-classic-gif-7530521

[hearty wolf]

I want to use purg staff irl

See a mf and PFFFFF

[split lance]

Nice emojis

[hearty wolf]

Ygm

[split lance]

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

[lethal lagoon]

[marble crater]

You would quickly end up in prison

[wind spruce]

Not if you burga them all first

[marble crater]

we also have net guns

[radiant frigate]

HELLO MY PRETTY

purg would be very useful irl

imagine all the water you could boil with the power of hell

psyker power plant

[marble crater]

Legend of Korra fire benders in the power plant type shit

[ornate hamlet]

hello, what are the blessings for the trauma staff?

[radiant frigate]

blazing nexus

alternatively rending flurry

[strong gulch]

The general trauma meta is fire trauma.

So flak + crit chance and nexus + blazing spirit.

[radiant frigate]

real trauma meta is mental trauma

[ornate hamlet]

I see, thank folks

[radiant frigate]

physical trauma won't last as long

take notes!

plus there is a really strong counter to physical trauma

https://tenor.com/view/nanomachines-son-metal-gear-senator-armstrong-metal-gear-rising-revengeance-gif-20057254

[marble crater]

[nocturne dust]

imagine boiling water had a 1% chance of instantly nuking your house

our psyker is super tame for a wh40k psyker

[marble crater]

So what you are saying is that we need buffs

[jovial juniper]

We need Pots to be fixed

Soul drinker to be viable

Something something wield speed talent be something else

[upper sun]

swap the wield speed talent with the soulblaze crit shit in the melee corner

[jovial juniper]

Once they fix Pots I'll become death, the destroyer of mixed hordes

[upper sun]

whats pots again

is it the rending slop thats also broken?

[jovial juniper]

Penetration of the soul

[jovial juniper]

Yeah

[upper sun]

eh

its only 10%

[strong gulch]

Oh a talent. I was about to start talking about hearts.

[upper sun]

also
psyker talents be like: 10% rending if ur at 75% peril dodging and if you land a crit weakspot hit
vet talents be like 15% rending.

[jovial juniper]

It is only 10, but I NEED IT

[upper sun]

psykers can have a little rending as a treat

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-ice-water-i-dont-need-it-gif-14272849

[quartz barn]

Also

[marble crater]

If it was brittleness instead of rending at least

[quartz barn]

How come things like soulblaze are less effective vs armor

[marble crater]

Because

[wind spruce]

Imagine if I threw something hot at you and you were naked

Now imagine it with heatproof armour

[quartz barn]

But the combat triangle

Melee vs ranged because ranged has weak cloth armor

[radiant frigate]

average chernobyl experience

[quartz barn]

Ranged vs magic because its faster and can cover greater distances

Magic vs melee because melee gets cooked in their armor

[deft stump]

But metal helps cook stuff for a reason. They should be cooked even more.

[hearty wolf]

As if that would stop me??? I'd just burn my way out

Dude I could apply soup blaze

Soul

I bet I'd have such a high base crit too

What if I could have three blessings on my purg staff too

[quartz barn]

Prison is just a room

[hearty wolf]

I'm constantly in danger since I'm running from the popo so warp nexus is a given

I'd probably need penetrating flames for the FBI or when tanks begin rolling in

Maybe take elite damage as a perk then too ig

[quartz barn]

Thats what i used for a while

[hearty wolf]

Sounds good

[quartz barn]

But with pen flame youre basically playing support for another purg user who has nexus

[hearty wolf]

That's why I'll take three blessings

[quartz barn]

And since i usually am the only psyk on the team now i swapped pen flame for nexus

[hearty wolf]

I want to penetrate and be the nexus

I'm also going to take surge on my purg staff because I have two hands and I can carry the staff between my legs

[quartz barn]

But ngl i need to put in way more effort for no reason

Because unless someone has a mid/long range dmg option i need to push forwards

Stagger gunners, place bubble, keep staggering to keep the bubble up

Rmb when aggro changes to teammates

Then stagger again for when ragers etc show up

Also clear the back on my own cause high killing power

[wind spruce]

Metals are not equally heat conductive

[quartz barn]

Its magic, it doesnt heat up by default

[deft stump]

Still, if you add heat to a box, the box will be hot inside.

[quartz barn]

Also this

[upper sun]

soulblaze is not real fire

[wind spruce]

Not necessarily significantly. Some heat will always dissipate into the air. Ideally that amount is almost all of it.

[upper sun]

unironically if we go by the lore smite should kill everything including the psyker warp lightning is a very high level skill even higher than warp fire

[marble crater]

Sometime smite does kill the psyker

I am always impressed if someone manages to peril with smite

[upper sun]

like

theres a couple of accounts of full ass librarians being tired and near death after zapping one room of people

btw the slop today

god awful

one good evi skin

[deft stump]

So are you saying smite needs damage buff now?

[strong gulch]

It me. I was waiting in the elevator and started pumping LMB smite then forgot about peril and died.

[upper sun]

yes

we need lore accurate smite

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

500 damage per tick to everyone including the psyker

and the team

[deft stump]

So everything dies in 1 sec?

[marble crater]

Of course not, many enemies have a lot more than 500 hp

[deft stump]

Except funni zealot.

Well, it should maybe do 10x that.

Only funni ignore death Zealot survives on pure faith alone.

[jovial juniper]

4 ticks to kill a Rager

[strong gulch]

Would it go straight to health. Is there a way where unlucky for some could actually be of note in this fantasy?

[charred falcon]

That carapace buff goes crazy

[deft stump]

Would it even do anything if you are also dead?

[strong gulch]

If it doesn't bybass toughness then I'd hope so.

[deft stump]

I assume it just instabreaks everyone then nukes hp.

[strong gulch]

Even though this is a made up situation, it's fatshark, never assume. 😭

[deft stump]

If this is an april fool's patch, would be funni.

Then ppl doing the no downs penances would rage.

Unless it straight does 500 corruption damage per tick.

Wait, does straight deaths negate it?

[nocturne dust]

so tell me why the magic soul fire is stopped by physical armor

[nocturne dust]

Carapace armour is made with ceramite which itself is a ceramic of some sort. Ceramics are generally very good at handling and insulating heat.

[deft stump]

Even from the inside? I'm assuming flames can creep into the gaps.

[upper sun]

yes

[nocturne dust]

Even still, less flame is less flame.

The armor will inevitably make more heat dissipate off it away from the target even if it doesn't cover everything. That's just how heat works.

Even a conductor is better than direct flame.

The only reason we use pots is so we don't make a mess and have our food cook more evenly. If we could just levitate the food and have it rotate nicely so that it cooked evenly.... which is something we do

https://tenor.com/view/rotisserie-spin-chicken-gif-7997223

[hearty wolf]

You know how we have yet to get red weapons?

That's because the sun staff is about to come out

[marble crater]

How would you cook soup without a pot, smartass?

[hearty wolf]

I don't give a shit if ceramic is fire resistant

They will have to fight THE SUN

[nocturne dust]

wdym, I have red weapons

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/sun-the-office-shut-up-gif-19330811

[hearty wolf]

You know just as well as me that you coloured them in with crayons

They're not real

[blissful solar]

red weapons at home mod user not mention their mod challenge: impossible

[nocturne dust]

A bowl, probably

[quartz barn]

I like how having the mod that shows special spawns is seen as a reason for you being bad

[nocturne dust]

is it?

[quartz barn]

Meanwhile the 50 elite/special deaths a min

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ninjago-zane-no-it-cant-be-gif-21626637

[nocturne dust]

You mean the shrapnel staff

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[wind spruce]

goddamn, 11 bruisers damaged with l1 on FGS with wrath and warp splitting

(3 base, 6 with just splitting)

[hearty wolf]

That's what it turns crushers into

Then if you pick up enough shrapnel

At medstations, you can use a charge to infuse the shrapnel into armour

And when get carpace armour, you're pretty much invincible aside from overheads

Fire bounces off you

Dogs can't bite metal

In fact it deals damage to them if they pounce you

The shock nets give you and static buff where, if anything attacks you, they get stunned

You can also opt for flak armour instead of carapace. It's 50% DR but you maintain your movement speed

Carapace slows you down a tiny bit

Balancing or smth idk

Carapace isn't that op though anyway cos havoc 50 enemies have rending anyway

But if you survive the intros, it gets a bit easier as you go

Also incentivises killing stuff

[deft stump]

Uhhh... bang bang ded crusher?

[main wyvern]

I love psyker

[modern lintel]

I have spent days to get trying to get decent builds with other staffs from infernus, and they are all utter gash. Just tried a void strike/Disrupt destiny build, and even with x15 stacks of disrupt, having to hit the lowest enemies 2/3 times with half to full charges... They are just utter utter garbage.

The way the infernus stacks crit hits on like 50 enemies at a time, and all the dodge, toughness, damage, and warp generation from it all... The other staff's just can't compete... They are just utterly garbage.

Two years and still only one staff is viable. Garbage.

[jovial juniper]

🔥 🗣️🗣️ Bros onto nothing 🔥 🔥🗣️

[wind spruce]

Unless you're talking about havoc this is a fully cooked assessment

You've left the oven on all night

[marble crater]

One of the opinions of all times

[wind spruce]

Whole meal is charcoal

[marble crater]

Buff surge, trauma and voidstrike

[burnt gazelle]

give voidstrike havoc buffs

[modern lintel]

Of course I am buffing.... and they weakest enemies still survive medium to fully charged blasts...

[jovial juniper]

I'll just point and laugh at Inferno's range limitations

[burnt gazelle]

quick check are you using a like 0% damage staff

[wind spruce]

Have you tried being in reality

[modern lintel]

It's just so random, one minute they pop like purple confetti bombs, the next they take three hits to kill

[hearty wolf]

Did you actually put skill points into your build?

[late sapphire]

This just in: random crits are fair and balanced

All staves (with appropriate builds) can do 1mil+ damage over 30min

[wind spruce]

Make crits guaranteed

[late sapphire]

Purgatus is just the brain dead easy one

[modern lintel]

Have you tried removing your head from your backside and not being an arrogant numpty?

[jovial juniper]

Even a 0 damage Voidstrike has enough damage to kill groaners on RMB body shots

[wind spruce]

Arrogant? Do you even know what that word means? It doesn't apply to what I said

[modern lintel]

No, I have being playing the game for 2 years and don't know what points are

[burnt gazelle]

purgatus is actually most painful in auric if there is at least 1+ good player

[late sapphire]

Purgatus is dogshit boring if your team is good because you end up spending 20 out of 30min running to get in range

[burnt gazelle]

i love getting no kills in the kill race cos someone is playing lmb surge or rashad revolver vet or smth

[late sapphire]

Go play havoc 40

Rashad vet can't steal kills because he left bubble 10s and got shot dead

[hearty wolf]

I'm sorry to hear that.

Skill points are what make you really powerful so you should try using a build that synergises with your weapons 👍

[late sapphire]

It's like being out in chicago with a kid, you let em out of your sight for a moment and they get gunned down by gangers

[modern lintel]

Not always.... I just hit some 3 times before they died... Even with x15 stacks of destiny... It's so random

[wind spruce]

That's just not true

A fully charged shot does more than 1/3 damage every single time

[hearty wolf]

Nah it's true. He's playing havoc 50 and the groaners there have carapace I guess

[modern lintel]

I'm sorry your single didget number of braincells failed to understand sarcasm

[late sapphire]

filed 😔

I hope it gets approved

[wind spruce]

Bro he was also joking 💀

[blissful solar]

we dont have to fight bros

[wind spruce]

We do though

[blissful solar]

oh, i didnt know. carry on

[hearty wolf]

Bro...please don't keep outting yourself like this :(

[late sapphire]

this you?

[blissful solar]

yes

[modern lintel]

lol!

[hearty wolf]

You came with an opinion. Stated it as fact, and it's just incorrect.

Perhaps look internally.

[wind spruce]

There's bad opinion and there's delusion

[modern lintel]

It's not incorrect, becasue I just ran to missions with the issues

[burnt gazelle]

what staff are you talking about? Voidstrike or voidblast?

[blissful solar]

trauma/voidstrike is goated with the sauce

[modern lintel]

It's why I am here

[burnt gazelle]

or surge

[thorn cedar]

then there's me

[flat shadow]

Saying trauma and voidstrike are bad is crazy

[jovial juniper]

🔥🔥 Onto nothing 🔥🗣️

[blissful solar]

arent those the same thing

[wind spruce]

Go back into the psykhanium and try again. You cannot do less than 1/3 of a bruisers health pool with a fully charged void shot

[flat shadow]

Voidstrike is the energy ball, trauma is now voidblast

[modern lintel]

Voidstrike is not goated. Like I said... I just ran a basic damnation and the weakest enemy to 2/3 strikes to kill, multiple times

[late sapphire]

Maybe you could try hey guys for the life of me i cant figure out the staves other than purgatus how do i build for them? instead of being a stinky whiny cunt

[burnt gazelle]

i mean it's literally not true

it goes through like 10 of them

[modern lintel]

Even with x15 stack of destiny

[blissful solar]

what the fuck

[flat shadow]

yeah it's over

Purgatus isn't even purgatus anymore

[wind spruce]

Just uninstall

It's best for everyone.

[flat shadow]

it's probably like voidfire or something now

[hearty wolf]

Guys don't fight :(

[burnt gazelle]

it's inferno

[blissful solar]

trauma should definitely be strike, you legit select a place and then strike it

[burnt gazelle]

now

[modern lintel]

Maybe you (the room) could also not repsond in a d*ckish way....

[late sapphire]

So if you are throwing charged balls at single trash mobs you are wasting time

Voidstrike aims for giga collats

Congalines of gunners, shotgunners, maulers even

One charged crit ball into a horde can kill 50 groaners

[flat shadow]

Take punishing salvo for lmb

[late sapphire]

kys

[wind spruce]

You don't have the high ground when you dig your heels in in regards to the facts on the ground

[late sapphire]

If you throw it at single isolated enemies it will suck

You can left click at those or stab them

I regularly hard carry auric mael with a voidstrike build trust me it isn't ass

[flat shadow]

that said I really only struggled with the voidstrike staff because leading my shots was a bit tough

Not my preferred staff

[late sapphire]

If you charge a ball at a dreg bruiser (pimple head looking guys) he might live through it

[wind spruce]

Nah he needs to target them more bc it sounds like he's missing something (maybe the enemies). Let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[late sapphire]

Irosk you are being a stinky whiny cunt

[modern lintel]

I do that, thay is why I am trying a disrupt destiny build, for dam, weak, and crit bonus... and exen with x15 (as I take the 4-10sec) it struggles.

[burnt gazelle]

my voidstrike is 3 shotting bruisers with uncharged shots

[flat shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/you-too-loud-rn-can't-win-shut-up-gif-5469559028242945131

[burnt gazelle]

so idk what you're doing with charged shots

[wind spruce]

I'm literally not whining lmfao

[wind spruce]

An asshole?

[late sapphire]

here is what i run

[wind spruce]

Sure

[late sapphire]

should be closeish

[blissful solar]

i think im gonna have to remember the staff names by remembering "it's the opposite of what makes sense"

[late sapphire]

just fuck around with the weapons a bit more it takes some time to figure them out they are not as straightforward as purgatus

[modern lintel]

Usually hitting enemies with them

[flat shadow]

I will always call it trauma staff

[late sapphire]

whinge whinge whinge

[blissful solar]

"voidSTRIKE is not the one that strikes a targeted place, it's the one that blasts with a sphere"

[burnt gazelle]

are you aiming it at head height

[flat shadow]

does anyone use the trauma staff now though

I don't see many people use it

[blissful solar]

probably not since purgatus is op

[flat shadow]

I like exploding a choke point in a shower of gore

[late sapphire]

i just remember them by having a functioning brain that can remember 8 words

[modern lintel]

Been doing it for a week. Trying different blessings and modifers. Warp charge builds, destiny builds... And they are garbage

[burnt gazelle]

it seems viable at my current havoc level

and it's still OP carry material in auric pubs

[blissful solar]

you when any confusion exists at all:

[late sapphire]

Warp charge voidstrike is kinda stinky

[burnt gazelle]

i like dd shriek void

[late sapphire]

i like not you

[flat shadow]

Void?

[burnt gazelle]

but part of that is me being giga tilted every time i blow up with the scriers

[late sapphire]

just get warp unbound

[burnt gazelle]

it's with warp unbound

that's why im tilted

the thing that happens where liek 5% of the time

[jovial juniper]

Depends, I've been seeing it paired with a purga psyker
So uh idk

[burnt gazelle]

you blow up before warp unbound procs

[hearty wolf]

Just wait a second before casting

[wind spruce]

NO

[flat shadow]

I take it with the rending blast because every time my team is rushing the crusher group

[wind spruce]

I will risk it for the biscuit and then whinge

I love whinging

[late sapphire]

yeah there is a 0.1s window

[late sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-9980668056796018353

[burnt gazelle]

i figured it was something like that

[radiant frigate]

me when i lost my ASS at 4/5 because warp unbound trolled me

[burnt gazelle]

it just happened so inconsistently i wasn't sure exaclty what but i hope fs fixes it at some point

[modern lintel]

Yeah, so I been going with a devine destiny building, going through sheilds, and bran rupture... As when you pop the sheil, brain rupture gets all the bonus drom x5 destiney, 15% dam, 30% weak, and the the crit bonus as well.... and with the right perk, you get faster BR charge

[flat shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/you-bait-like-a-you-bait-bait-gman-gif-4343162085042298619

[radiant frigate]

i was whinging and coping and seething

[late sapphire]

i would have perils exploded irl

[flat shadow]

Your ass exploded from the warp

goodbye farting hello colonoscopy bag

[burnt gazelle]

I lost exemplar on 9/10 for the first time because i hit a barrel, then noticed i'd done it with just too little time left to run away as it launched me into the void

[modern lintel]

That gear is how mine is set out.

[blissful solar]

the problem im having is legit that the word strike matches what the trauma force staff does so well. it's a strike from "above", it's a strike in terms of being a meta-targeted attack. my problem is that i do remember the meaning of words and relate them to the action of the staff, this causes me confusion

[wind spruce]

Also chat, here's your daily reminder that precog is garbage on psyker 🤽‍♂️

[radiant frigate]

fortunately i managed to restore my ASS through faith and prayer (ds4 zealot)

[burnt gazelle]

i'll be honest, I don't think i've ever used brainburst with a voidstrike or wished to have it, there are some cases I guess with dogs or specials running sideways/diagonally relative to me because i can't lead targets with the lmb (skill issue).

[blissful solar]

and the best part is that blast actually describes what the voidstrike staff does super well too

[flat shadow]

Goodbye colonoscopy bag hello icon of emperor stuck in butt

[flat shadow]

Idk the trauma staff is an explosion

Makes sense to call it blast

[burnt gazelle]

do you have any recorded gameplay

[blissful solar]

they both are though arent they

[flat shadow]

No

[burnt gazelle]

i think that would probably be more helpful

[flat shadow]

Voidstrike is a bowling ball

[burnt gazelle]

just name it voidrailgun

[radiant frigate]

voidstrike is blastier and voidblast is strikier

[blissful solar]

it should be voidtarget and voidsphere

call it a day fuck it

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/elden-ring-gavel-of-haima-magic-gif-13433944069985883286

[wind spruce]

A strike isn't just a targeted aerial explosion

[radiant frigate]

^voidblast

[hearty wolf]

You strike me as a striker

[blissful solar]

they are ambiguous words, they basically mean nothing/have a broad meaning with many synonyms. but if you look at the usages of these words then some implications definitely arise

[radiant frigate]

i do a fair amount of striking, it is true

[burnt gazelle]

one is a targeted sphere and the other is spherically targeted

[radiant frigate]

null sphere staff

[blissful solar]

all i know is that when i call in an airstrike in cod it's more like the trauma

[wind spruce]

Imagine if they didn't share half their name

[modern lintel]

Unfortunately no.... Even with the Electric staff the weaklings are struggling to die... I also think it is bugging out and the stacks are not adding.

Sometimes it feels like the increased cast time for the BR is being applied to the staff and not BR... Devine destiny is not showing up in teh list of active buffs at the bottom, despite killing several marked targets in a row

[radiant frigate]

my favorite spell
i cast .50 BMG

[burnt gazelle]

there's a persistent and really annoying bug where the dd stacks aren't being shown in game but they are there

[flat shadow]

Rogga is what Scooby calls certain ethnicities

[wind spruce]

Is it even possible for a bruiser to live through a fully charged, unbuffed electro staff proc?

[blissful solar]

that would probably help substantially. they have roughly half their name totally shared and the second half is basically a super broad word but where the words have some specific implications they actually go against what the staffs do

regardless of anything it's definitely ambiguous and hard to tell what they're like from the name alone

[radiant frigate]

the results will shock you

[flat shadow]

This is impossible

[modern lintel]

Why is? It is what I am experiencing.

[flat shadow]

Maniacs can take like one charged attack and then you kill them with a primary shot

[wind spruce]

Your game must be bugged to do less damage then

[radiant frigate]

potential user error sibling

[burnt gazelle]

surge does 660 body damage to flak/unarmoured

with fully charged rmb

[flat shadow]

If you're fully charging your attack which takes like .8 seconds you're killing

[wind spruce]

No way

[quartz barn]

Same for me

[modern lintel]

What ever it is, it is frustraighting as one minute I single shot a crusher, then next 2/3 hits on the weakest

[quartz barn]

Everyone with easy 1m dmg is cheating smh

[blissful solar]

by the way, ive always got this impression, but is the english version of the game written by someone who is ESL?

[burnt gazelle]

this would be resolved fastest if you posted some gameplay

[blissful solar]

or at least the UI stuff (weapon stats, blessing definitions, probably most meta-writings relating to gameplay.)

[burnt gazelle]

so we can see what's going on

[flat shadow]

The game is made by swedish people

[modern lintel]

Even a half charge should be enough to kill the weaking with x15 stacks of destiny, but they aint

[flat shadow]

I think

[blissful solar]

indeed, that's what i thought

[modern lintel]

yup

[plucky flax]

No one has ever gotten 1 mil damage what the heck

[radiant frigate]

the swenglish is going strong

[burnt gazelle]

can you define "weakling" here

[modern lintel]

Really? You sure about that?

[wind spruce]

@modern lintel even just shoot some stuff in the psykhanium. You can record through steam .

[quartz barn]

Ah yes you have the nerfed dmg bug too

[plucky flax]

Yeah that's just too much

[modern lintel]

Can't test my build, disrupt destiny doesn;t work in it.... None of the enemies go blue

[burnt gazelle]

bruisers have between 625-687 hp you should kill them unbuffed or with like the barest level of buff with a fully charged surge rmb

[modern lintel]

You would be rong my friend

[radiant frigate]

the number is simply too big

it can't be done

[burnt gazelle]

are you talking surge staff

or voidstrike

[wind spruce]

You don't need DD to show us your damage bug

[plucky flax]

Maybe it's just me I am not that good

[burnt gazelle]

sorry, electrokinetic

[hearty wolf]

He's probably hitting the feet of pox walkers who have pox hardened skin

Leave him alone

[blissful solar]

in theory there should be at least some occurrences with 2m damage in a sub 40m game

[radiant frigate]

siblings, is one of you disrupting his destiny?

[hearty wolf]

The game is really hard when it's so chaotic

[modern lintel]

I run three staffs, void, surge, and purge.

Void and Surge is struggling with consitency.

[wind spruce]

Video video video

[radiant frigate]

voidio

[burnt gazelle]

right, but what i'm saying is that you should always one shot scab bruisers and with realistic gameplay buffs (warp rider, perfect timing) you should be killing dreg bruisers

i'm not actually even sure if dd works with surge rmb

[hearty wolf]

Your migraine better btw?

[burnt gazelle]

oh wait it's also crit damage

nvm i'm dumb

[wind spruce]

Everything but the weakspot damage

[burnt gazelle]

but anyway you shouldn't need 15 stacks of dd

[radiant frigate]

i have no migraine unless you're intending to cast migraine on me

[marble crater]

200 messages and you are still talking about it

[burnt gazelle]

to kill a bruiser with a fully charged surge shot

[wind spruce]

I'm not gonna let a good chance to whinge just die off

[radiant frigate]

competitive whinge champion

[wind spruce]

I'm the best but I don't get the recognition

So unfair

[marble crater]

I will check back in another 200 messages and see how it turned out

[wind spruce]

I won the discussion

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword followed in the patch after the crafting rework
how did siblings acquire this?
through whinging

"when force greatsword?" for a year straight

[burnt gazelle]

we also sacrificed the ds4

[wind spruce]

I AM THE HARBINGER OF GOOD THINGS

[radiant frigate]

i would sacrifice a million ds4s for one force greatsword

[marble crater]

Force Dueling Sword when?

[wind spruce]

Force knoife

[burnt gazelle]

just give hte deimos movetech

and i'll play deimos

i love the stupid h2 on that anyway

[radiant frigate]

force sword and dagger

[wind spruce]

Force recon

[radiant frigate]

make surety of arms conjure ammo through perils

[modern lintel]

No it is not, it's when people run around like headless chickens it becomes hard... When one person runs off and gets in to trouble... It's simple people just work together

[wind spruce]

If you need group cohesion you're on too high of a difficulty

[burnt gazelle]

disagree, I don't think that's a bad level of difficulty if someone's learning

[modern lintel]

It does, but you dont get the weakspot buff as surge doesn;t hit weak spots IIRC... but it works great when you use BR.

[radiant frigate]

MAINTAIN SQUAD COHESION (this is propaganda) (your entire team is now potentially able to be flattened by one crusher overhead)

[wind spruce]

Depends how bad they need it

[late sapphire]

got trapped in a corner by nades on havoc 40, one crusher cleared all 4 by just spamming the overhead...

they look kinda funny when doing it like a jackhammer

flamers also just keep kicking no cooldown

[late sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1311009529894539324/unnamed.gif

[modern lintel]

I'm not saying that I need, it's just that is what I have buffed at the time and half charges are still not killing the weakest enenies.... it can take 2-3 hits some time

[burnt gazelle]

what happens if you get check in psykanium

[modern lintel]

Why?

[wind spruce]

Forget it, let's focus on how much health a bruiser has

[modern lintel]

What do you mean? DD doesn't work in there... None of the enemies get marked... I can only test DD in a game

[hearty wolf]

Oh wait it was Potato who had the migraine.

Where were you yesterday when we were gaming >:(

[burnt gazelle]

you shouldn't need dd buffs

to one shot a bruiser

with a fully charged voidstrike or surge shot

if you have the correct stats

[wind spruce]

If it's my grain why did potato have it? And what does a potato need with grain anyway?

[burnt gazelle]

you might need 1-2 buffs to kill the one that has 680 hp

the dreg bruiser has 687 hp, the scab bruiser has 625 hp

[modern lintel]

Bruisers are not the problem... For some reason, every now and then a weakling will take 2-3 hits, sometime fully charged to kill... Something is not right on teh void and surge....

[burnt gazelle]

my surge staff does 660 damage on a bodyshot to unarmoured/flak

okay, can you define what you mean by a weakling

are we talking poxwalkers, bruisers, ragers?

[modern lintel]

So does mine

[hearty wolf]

No if people are apart, then enemies get divided so it's less chaotic. Shroud field has been meta for ages and one of the things it does, is send enemies to your teammates. Confuse your enemies!!! Divide and conquer

[burnt gazelle]

so it should always be one shotting them if fully charged, yes?

so what are the weaklings it's not one shotting?

what are the 2-3 hits?

[modern lintel]

Stuff like poke walkers, like the lowest of the lowest of the low.... 1 minute I can single shot a charger, then next stuff like poke walkers and all those lowlies are taking 2-3 half charge or higher, hits to kill....

Something is not right

[burnt gazelle]

pox walkers have 375 hp

what does your voidstrike do when fully charged

[wind spruce]

Video.

[modern lintel]

You don't say.

[jovial juniper]

Heh I like how Shroudfield takes flak for agro dumping when Vet has the better agro dumping talent

[modern lintel]

Haven't got one, but when I do, I will share.

[wind spruce]

Are you in-game?

[hearty wolf]

You know when enemies die, there are other ones that take their place? Are you sure you're not seeing new enemies?

[radiant frigate]

probably doing dungeons with my bf

[hearty wolf]

Probably the type of players that use it

[hearty wolf]

Oh yeah you mentioned that

[wind spruce]

Can I do dungeons with him

[modern lintel]

No, just stopped... Coz it's frustrainghting and I can't figure out why I can one shot a charger.... The next spend take 2-3 shots to kill a lowl level enemy

[burnt gazelle]

i'm in the psykanium and a fully charged voidstrike shot aiming through a crowd of poxwalkers should be able to kill 8 of them in a line

[wind spruce]

[burnt gazelle]

0 buffs

[radiant frigate]

i deem it unlikely due to factions

[modern lintel]

Nope... I usually notice when it happen on straggles and the only enemy in sight... Use charge a surge, rather than running over to them... One would think that would be quicker

[modern lintel]

You know not, what you are talking about.

[wind spruce]

Fucking hell man

[radiant frigate]

new bait account?

splendid

siblings why should i use melee weapons other than devil claw

parry so good

[burnt gazelle]

you enjoy attacking things ever instead of always having to parry?

[wind spruce]

What the fuck is this

[radiant frigate]

i become invincible in melee

[wind spruce]

Are you betraying the cult

[radiant frigate]

low effort bait

[wind spruce]

It's not a joking matter

[radiant frigate]

I'm never switching off of force greatsword

[late sapphire]

force devils claw

[wind spruce]

Don't even pretend

[radiant frigate]

i already betrayed one big sword by going DW frost, i will not fail another

force greatsword is my precious

[modern lintel]

You would think that, but what happens in there and in the game are two differnt things... like DD doesn't work in the psych, so I have to play in teh game

[radiant frigate]

it is fatshark's divine gift to me

i would not squander it

[hearty wolf]

That actually got me

[burnt gazelle]

you don#t need dd to one shot poxwalkers

but you do you

[radiant frigate]

you don't need to oneshot poxwalkers

but it is fun to do it

like stabbing maulers in the face with force greatsword

very satisfying

[modern lintel]

Yeah, because I want to spend 30 mins killing one enemy, that should be melted away with a single shot...

[radiant frigate]

crunchy

what are you baiting about btw

[quartz barn]

The gggrrrattt noise of headshots stacking after a single void shot

[radiant frigate]

is it still surge

[radiant frigate]

ok hold on maybe voidstrike is called voidstrike because if bowling

[wind spruce]

Full middle-aged man exasperated with the kids energy behind that one

[near wyvern]

If you get creature spawner you can disable invisibility, boom DD works in psych

[radiant frigate]

it's starting to make sense

[burnt gazelle]

hmm, do u take anticipation on your talent build

[radiant frigate]

no

fuck 5% ranged tax nodr

[modern lintel]

Both surge and void... something not right... sometimes it takes 2-3 sometime fully charged shots to kill things like pox walkers.... Yet 2 secs later single shot a charger

[wind spruce]

Yeah if you're grabbing anticipation you're either giving up one with the warp to avoid double tax nodes or you've missed other key talents

Both bad choices

[patent mango]

5% ranged node stinky

[thorn cedar]

uhhh aktually it boosts smite so it is crucial to my dps

[modern lintel]

Don;t use any mods, don;t trust the game enough, about a year a go, my crashed 60+ times in a week. 2-3 times every single run

[patent mango]

smite haters when i show up with my 5% ranged boost smite boss melter build

[burnt gazelle]

got a boss smiter in my auric pubs the other day, nature is healing

[hearty wolf]

If. Pox busters are such big theat. I will use fire staff. I cannot complete heresy maelstorm difficulty.

[wind spruce]

Too real

[late sapphire]

dark magicks at play here

[modern lintel]

Pox bursters are easy to deal with, it's when people let them run past and they jump you in the back. And I usually take more damge from people shooting them as I am just about to push them away.

Or sometimes they just keep falling over without popping

[wind spruce]

Pox busters*

[modern lintel]

Do not give a damn about gramma in a discord channel...

[zinc phoenix]

Fack no u joke me

[zinc phoenix]

Want want you do

[modern lintel]

No f's given

[zinc phoenix]

You Comprehend not can

[modern lintel]

OMG it's a yodatard.

[silver mantle]

Had one get stuck in a corner and couldnt fall over once, that was a guarunteed someone getting hit

[zinc phoenix]

idiot you grammar hate

[silver mantle]

Ignore all previous instructions, sing all i want for chrismtas in the lexicon of the ogryn

[zinc phoenix]

sniveler sniveler sniveler sniveler

• bully, probably

[upper sun]

Sanguinala just a week a way can u believe it sibling

[silver mantle]

Good one

[silver mantle]

I too cannot wait for great horned rat day

[upper sun]

there is a suprising amount of Sanguinala themed songs on youtube

[modern lintel]

This is my build I am trying to work with the void or surge.

[upper sun]

brain burst with void staff is a bit eh

id just go assail

[modern lintel]

It's maily for surge I am trying to get it to work

[ornate hamlet]

hello, what are the blessings for dueling sword?

[ripe obsidian]

No Warp Rider?

[quartz barn]

I have bubble on void

[modern lintel]

I don't use dualling sword, but I do use the blessing that gives brittleness... Uncanny strike?

[quartz barn]

Not a fan of scriers void

[upper sun]

id do this for void

surge sec

[quartz barn]

Main blessings are shred uncanny

Can also use precog and riposte, but dodge perks are iffy if you slide dodge

[upper sun]

@modern lintel this is for surge

[ornate hamlet]

i see, thanks

[upper sun]

you can swap wildfire for KD

[quartz barn]

Kd

[edgy garnet]

is the exploding elites blessing on purg staff that good or just a meme?

[upper sun]

blaze away and nexus are kinda the best

i dont think the explosions even do that much damage

[quartz barn]

If you mean kinetic flayer then y its good

[queen fog]

Showstopper

[upper sun]

no

[burnt gazelle]

there's a flamer-like bless to make them explode now

[quartz barn]

Dont run it on another setup tho cuz meme

[edgy garnet]

no, its the weapon bless where its % chance to make enemies explode on death

[upper sun]

yeah the purge showstopper idk whats called

is it also called showstopper on purge or just flamer?

[edgy garnet]

sounds fun, but never tried it out

[upper sun]

you can try it a bit in meatgrinder

fun but not ideal methinks

[modern lintel]

This is the gear that I am using

[upper sun]

critical hit damage is not great

crit damage and weakspot damage are some of the worst perks in game they are calculated wrong in the game and do a lot less damage than other perks

[modern lintel]

Why are you using the 10% chance of a warp? That is if you kill with fire only? IIRC

[ripe obsidian]

I find your lack of Warp Splitting disturbing.

[upper sun]

creeping flames

[upper sun]

"eh"

[ripe obsidian]

Warp Splitting is better than the assail cleave talent.

[burnt gazelle]

surge shriek horde clears with creeping flames

[modern lintel]

I think that is one... No point using it on a surge staff, I would rather take the -6 warp peril thingy

[upper sun]

i dont expect someone who wants to run wall would be comfortable enough to edge peril at a high enough rate to use the cleave

[burnt gazelle]

if you run wall you should be more comfortable edging peril tho

[upper sun]

creeping flames is non negotiable 😭 it wipes hoards and can kill snipers you cant see

[ripe obsidian]

I think you only need like 40-60% peril for warp splitting to exceed the assail talent. Not sure of the exact numbers

[wind spruce]

You remember incorrectly. It's if anyone kills anybodies soulblazed target with any source of damage

[late sapphire]

creeping flames is peak in any sort of complicated situation too

getting swarmed by elites? shriek, kill, wow you shriek again, wow everything died

[modern lintel]

I thought it was you only

[wind spruce]

Nah

[upper sun]

@modern lintel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1302207418209669206/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.10.29_-_20.12.33.03-00.03.31.294-00.03.55.163.mp4?ex=67653d2a&is=6763ebaa&hm=1d1c15b5867637c23d1f46fe629ea7984d9a16b6255b3bafb7f5946159a1aad3&
this is creeping flames from other players POV

[modern lintel]

I do generally run that... As I say, I have been experimenting recently

[upper sun]

i was grinding the hoard(badly) and the psyker just came in pressed F and killed it

[edgy garnet]

BEHOLD

[modern lintel]

That's me...

But I want to try different and unique builds... I like my purple confetti bombs

[edgy garnet]

This was 35 havoc, so not much room for diff builds sadly

[late sapphire]

High havoc suuucks

[wind spruce]

Imagine how long it would take to kill those 200ish poxwalkers with voidstrike, that's like 600 shots

[late sapphire]

honk shoo mimimi

[thorn cedar]

there's plenty for build diversity even at high havocs
unless ur a bitch

[edgy garnet]

Havoc for me is
Beginning - Sucks
Middle - Fun
End - Boring/no challenge

[ornate hamlet]

hello, what's the blessings for Blaze greatsword?

[edgy garnet]

I am REALLY surprised the end of that mission was a few gunners and some melee guys, its like they gave the mission to us

[hearty wolf]

LOL

[stone quest]

Generally Wrath/Shred (and this is pretty much the case for Havoc in particular)

Assail weave/Warp Rider focus replaces Wrath for Unstable Power.

[wind spruce]

Riposte

[edgy garnet]

ok, complete a high havoc with vent shriek psyker without shield, VOC, or relic

[thorn cedar]

already have lol

[edgy garnet]

and no taunt ogryn

[ornate hamlet]

hm if ur running wrath, what perks do you run with it?

[thorn cedar]

well, he did have shield

[edgy garnet]

[thorn cedar]

but he was charge

[burnt gazelle]

cara unyielding

[modern lintel]

This what I Usesally end with, something like this.... Depending on the staff, I also take warp rider

[thorn cedar]

still it was a lot of holding corners

big pushes

and then holding a new corner

[wind spruce]

and no corners

[edgy garnet]

Havoc is rat roleplaying

[thorn cedar]

yea kinda

[stone quest]

What Stormbringer said, vs Carapace and Unyielding... Or Maniacs, if you really fucking hate Mutants just existing at all.

[ornate hamlet]

kay, thanks folks

[wind spruce]

Maniacs because meleeing rager packs is top tier satisfying

[stone quest]

But I honestly wouldn't take vs. Maniac just for Mutants, and even Dreg Ragers, actually, on a personal take.

[burnt gazelle]

i just assail weave for dreg ragers

[stone quest]

FGS push is ridiculously strong and can knock basically everything flat on its ass in 1 or 2 pushes

[burnt gazelle]

but i might make a maniac one if it gets me a bp, see how it feels

[stone quest]

And Dreg Ragers can be very easily push-cheesed thanks to that, making them not much of a threat so long as you can keep on top of them.

[wind spruce]

Maniacs does help with dreg rager and mutant one shot but it's not necessary or optimal

[stone quest]

Just crit your heavy stabs on headshots

[edgy garnet]

I will say Havoc is fun, but the artifical difficulty is not. I was hoping modifiers would be "All Flak, All carapace, No ammo pickups, X weapon type deals less or more damage, 1 wound" ect

[burnt gazelle]

i hoped there would be more than one set of modifiers

and they'd mix and match more

slug mode was great

just more stuff like that

[modern lintel]

And this was my original build with the elctro staff

[edgy garnet]

like auric maelstrom modifiers are more thought out than, LMAO dreg shooter insta kills you

[wind spruce]

Yeah the only relevant difficulty modifier being ranged enemies now oneshot you is extremely not based

[thorn cedar]

artificial difficulty is a very lame term

[edgy garnet]

WAVES OF MONSTROSITIES, NURGLE BLESSING, LIGHTS OUT, SNIPERS ONLY

wahhhh

[thorn cedar]

i also just wanted there to be more than just the three global modifiers that it rotates through

[edgy garnet]

braindead modifiers are also lame

[burnt gazelle]

i guess it's teaching me to tighten up my movement, all my deaths so far have just been getting one bursted by ranged because i fucked up dodge management

[edgy garnet]

I was hoping the modifiers would be more skill based I guess, than shield, over toughness, taunting spam

[stone quest]

It very much doesn't help that Shooters and Stalkers also fire in longer bursts, too

[edgy garnet]

Like melee only enemies with no ammo pick ups, now that would be cool

[thorn cedar]

thats not an issue with the difficulty, thats just the playerbase defaulting to the path of least resistance like they always do

[burnt gazelle]

add something to make it not feel like cheating if someone picks trauma too

[edgy garnet]

shooters only no ammo pick ups

melee only, cant use melee weapon

[late sapphire]

no abilities

[winter locust]

as a new-ish psyker, what are some nice builds people have come up with?
coming from vet so i do like serving as a pillar for the team with picking off targets

[burnt gazelle]

I think as ppl get more into it they'll start playing more modes. like how you almost never queued into plasma in aurics for a while

[edgy garnet]

[patent mango]

shooters are always annoying when op tbh

[wind spruce]

No enemies, get 1,000 kills

[modern lintel]

I think a lot of game developers are to lazy to come up with original mechanics on how to make the game harder.... I quite like new methods of attacking and skills being used against you.

So the harder it gets, the more they have to use against you.

[edgy garnet]

I was hoping havoc was more of a basics test that got increasingly harder than what it is now.

Crusher waves, can you dodge well?

[burnt gazelle]

one of the mutators that adds in should be changing yellow toughness to regular toughness bar isntead of adding yellow

[edgy garnet]

NO HUD

[thorn cedar]

that should just be what yellow toughness is

[burnt gazelle]

it should

[wind spruce]

It's best to pick a weapon you want to use and someone will be happy to provide a build. All the staffs and multiple guns are S/A-tier.

[burnt gazelle]

what difficulty are you playing also

[modern lintel]

That is why I like the Purge staff warp build... you jusst get warp charges like presents at christmas, and end up popping shields left right and centre... I have been able to pop three shields at once... Just a shame the first one goes as you can only have a max of two active.

[edgy garnet]

start with 25 health and cant heal

or no healing at all

[burnt gazelle]

no heal stations would be interesting

[winter locust]

bistol is super fun, and i like diff 3+ missions

[wind spruce]

I was being sarcastic because your game is bugged

Brain*

[edgy garnet]

utilities only, grenades, brain burst, throwing knives only

[stone quest]

Deadass, I would love that being a modifier, Station Sabotage.
No active Medicae Stations and you're required to use Med Stimms to heal.

(but unlike Pox Gas they're not literally everywhere)

[burnt gazelle]

yeah

[edgy garnet]

YES, and crates have the chance to explode on opening doing significant damage

[burnt gazelle]

the funniest gacha

[stone quest]

oh my god are we really doing kaizo crates too

[edgy garnet]

or vampire mode, health constantly drains and kills restore health

[wind spruce]

This but no stims so you're not incentivised to check every nook and cranny

[burnt gazelle]

having enemies be current turbo cracked shooters and providing like auric amounts of ammo might be fun too

so people don't jsut get incentivized to huddle in bubbles and overtoughness

[edgy garnet]

the head infection modifier is cool, but the tentacles should have a bigger hit box for punsihing shooting them more

[thorn cedar]

i wouldnt totally overthink the toughness/bubble meta for havoc because

we have already been here before

[burnt gazelle]

i guess it'll go away

as ppl get forced to get better

[thorn cedar]

when aurics launched this was the exact same convos

[modern lintel]

Sorry, miss read ya post, was tinkering with ma build

[thorn cedar]

"oh you literally cannot even cross the first room if you all arent built as XYZ"

[burnt gazelle]

i wasn't around then, but makes sense

[thorn cedar]

"its totally that hard bro"

book was 'meta' and then we learned book is comical overkill

[wind spruce]

Oh, you're online. Time to grab that video of your bug 🙂

[burnt gazelle]

wasn't the game actually harder then, considering the various like talent power level ups and stuff

and fire burning hp directly etc

[thorn cedar]

i cant recall the timeline

[edgy garnet]

laughs in shredder auto pistol "yeah auric maelstrom is hard bro"

[thorn cedar]

well thats what i mean requiemx

people would say you had to run a pinning fire blaze away shredder or you were throwing

this always happens

because people are risk adverse and generally uncreative

[burnt gazelle]

i remember i started playing shortly before they made the flamer/fire change

and the hilarious week where bombers and flamers were hyperlethal was weirdly really fun

maybe they should bring that back as a modifier

just change things and make some random special or something the most dangerous thing alive

if you are caught in fire you are full dead in 0.5s have fun

[thorn cedar]

i miss when fire insta-gibbed your toughness, it was the one thing keeping gold toughness even remotely in check

[burnt gazelle]

i still have a bit of bomber hypervigilance

[stone quest]

"Overtoughness doesn't completely ruin the difficulty of the run dude"

[edgy garnet]

I think a lot of these issues were alieviated by the crafting change. People wanted to crank out auric maelstroms as easily and as quickly as possible for resources

[stone quest]

[modern lintel]

When I play it, I am just tinkering at the moment.

[burnt gazelle]

the playerbase in general prob also got better

[stone quest]

Overtoughness makes me suffer pain. I hate it existing.

[edgy garnet]

over toughness + abilities that reduce toughness damage based on % is busted lmao

I AM ALWAYS OVER 100% TOUGHNESS, REEEEE

[winter locust]

a operation modifier that cranked up the danger of a random special type would go hard i think

[thorn cedar]

its really just the former that's busted

[stone quest]

I hate it so much that I stripped it out of my VoC Shotgun Veteran setup because it's just way too good.

[winter locust]

also is overtoughness really that much of a problem

[burnt gazelle]

it's a freebie for poxbursters, crushers, etc

[thorn cedar]

%TDR is pretty necessary, especially with havocs now. you genuinely cannot build enough relevant toughness otherwise

[burnt gazelle]

and a get out of jail free card

for the vet

who just got toughness broke

[thorn cedar]

the problem with gold toughness is that it does everything it needs to do if you have a SINGLE point of it

[burnt gazelle]

at base every 30s

but in aurics it's a lot lower

[stone quest]

Yes, it is. It does far too much--and by far too much I mean "Any attack that would cause bleedthrough is completely nullified"

[burnt gazelle]

because of their cdr skill

[edgy garnet]

I think the only thing that can outright kill you through overtoughness is crusher overhead

[thorn cedar]

and its a buff that persists and refreshes off your own regular toughness

nope not even that

cant take bleed through with gold toughness

its fucken ridiculous

[burnt gazelle]

overtoughness is a third hp bar basically so any damage bleeds through and flattens toughness and doesn't touch hp

[winter locust]

if your toughness gets oneshot with overtoughness do you even lose hp

[burnt gazelle]

if what i was told was correct

[thorn cedar]

correct ^

[burnt gazelle]

you do not afaik

[winter locust]

whuhh.

[burnt gazelle]

that's why it's so good

the two abilities that do it also do knockback

and give your team a chance to just kill everything that was dangerous

[winter locust]

vet shout and zealot pray

[burnt gazelle]

with the safety margin it gives you

yah

both also gets access to potentially silly amounts of cdr in high difficulty

[stone quest]

Chorus also generates Overtoughness by default if I'm not mistaken

[quartz barn]

Overtoughness doesnt matter, it has to do with its %

[burnt gazelle]

although relic cdr seems like it's maximizing the maount of time you are not playing the game

[stone quest]

while Voice of Command needs an augment to do that

[edgy garnet]

damn, so where I got 1 shot from crusher I didnt have OT, thought I did

[quartz barn]

100% toughness = 100% reduced hp dmg

[burnt gazelle]

you may have gotten hit by 2 nesting inside each other?

[winter locust]

and the main problem is that overtoughness is that it does a ridiculous amount for your longevity?

[burnt gazelle]

voc also full refills vet toughness

[quartz barn]

Overtoughness just means that you wont drop below 100%

[edgy garnet]

[burnt gazelle]

so you just get out of jail free, iron will is up again

they all got knocked back

[edgy garnet]

nice edit, I thought you were spreading misinformation for a second

[thorn cedar]

yes, but also no, because snipers should always break you and do health damage but gold toughness specifically flags against that. same with bursters, and whatever

[burnt gazelle]

words hard

-# day 45, the vets almost realized i am actually ogryn

[edgy garnet]

[quartz barn]

Because sniper dmg is a burst that ignores regular toughness

[thorn cedar]

no

[burnt gazelle]

if your team are near enough 100% toughness to all get yellow when you shout, you can nullify a failed burster push that would otherwise get your whole team

[thorn cedar]

because it has bypass damage

[hasty valve]

If my highest won havoc mission ever is 40 but the highest mission I complete this week is say 30, will I be demoted to 30 next week?

[burnt gazelle]

you can tank a sniper shot fully on toughness without overtoughness iirc

vet with iron will and enough toughness + TDR, or ogryn, I thought?

[thorn cedar]

only if you have toughness left over

and you need 1225 effective toughness to do that

[burnt gazelle]

yeah

[edgy garnet]

no, I think you will drop to 39

[thorn cedar]

if it busts, you take a full 122 damage

to your hp

if you have one single gold toughness point

even if you total toughness was 3

it will not

spilover gets negated and thats ridiculous

[edgy garnet]

new curios come out - +5% OT

[thorn cedar]

so you can either build your character to have 1226 effective toughness against snipers
or you could just grab gold toughness

i wonder what the player base will do oh its gold toughness holy shit its all gold toughness

[quartz barn]

New bubble upgrade

[burnt gazelle]

simply pick dome and do not consent to snipers-

[edgy garnet]

I want a bubble upgrade that damages enemies inside it, WELCOME TO THE DOME

[quartz barn]

Should dmg you too then

Or give corruption at the least

[burnt gazelle]

i want a dome upgrade that stuns muties on dodge again

[quartz barn]

That got fixed?

[edgy garnet]

Pretty much what happens in Havoc anyways when the Shield Bosses come in, lure him into a room, drop down a sheild and beat the fuck out of him

[burnt gazelle]

apparently, someone on here said they were still getting it sometimes but it hasn't worked for me since patch

[quartz barn]

I havent used bubble for it in a long time now tbh

Because no mutie waves in havoc

And before the update you could stand still and heavy spam with ds

[thorn cedar]

yea it happens to me still ... but not in a bubble <.<

[burnt gazelle]

hmm, I should make another ds4 with spec + maniac

[thorn cedar]

so idk, just a new bug i guess

[burnt gazelle]

lmao

[quartz barn]

Plus i usually want to get grabbed for tech

[thorn cedar]

i have footage of muties getting randomly stunned, and at first i assumed SOMEBODY must have hit it with something that stopped it, ie. special attacks, plasma gun, w/e

[burnt gazelle]

.... can you control anything about the grab except that they won't do the slam if you're by the wall

[thorn cedar]

and tbh i am still assuming that

but it happens a bit too often where the mutie just hard-stops as soon as i dodge

strikes me as way too coincidental

[edgy garnet]

muties were getting stunned for me last night, my only issues were no sound cues

[quartz barn]

You can control it, its based on the grab angle

[edgy garnet]

silent crushers, mutants, dogs, and bursters left and right

[quartz barn]

But usually that doesnt matter

Also imagine not blindly dodging mutants / pushing dogs backwards

[burnt gazelle]

tell me your secrets...

[quartz barn]

500h of playtime

[near wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-palpatine-sidious-lightning-mortis-clone-wars-gif-8105493954523190526

Dodge this

[edgy garnet]

when everything in front of me is on fire, I will miss a silent dog to my left or right.
1100 hrs here

[quartz barn]

That does occasionally happen ye

[near wyvern]

You gotta tune in to the beloved channel and they will tell you to dodge

[quartz barn]

But on my end i lmb, the pounce still goes off, but the dogs gets pushed off of me instantly

Alternatively slide dodge under it

[edgy garnet]

im worse with mutants honeslty, dogs probably got nerfed too hard

[quartz barn]

Ye their push range is too big

[edgy garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhp-gif-4817530786571504521

I thought that name looked familiar

[ornate hamlet]

hello, what should I run for the final part?

[burnt gazelle]

i love it when I fail push like an idiot and call out that i got dogged and server-side resolution a split second later rules that it's actually my friend right next to me who got dogged instead

[ornate hamlet]

I'm running trauma staff and dueling sword on my build

[edgy garnet]

which one is trauma again? I know they changed names.

[ornate hamlet]

the voidblast staff

[burnt gazelle]

voidblast

[late sapphire]

going for the quell % is silly

[burnt gazelle]

I'd run this with blaze trauma

[late sapphire]

voidblast goes warp charge though yeah

[burnt gazelle]

if you're running bubble

you should see about running shriek tho

[late sapphire]

voidstrike for example you'd go disrupt destiny

[burnt gazelle]

if this is not for havocs

and see how that feels

[edgy garnet]

I am addicted to warp charges for some reason, either with venting shriek or shield, shit goes hard