#psyker-class

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mossy oyster
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I need it for gunker

nocturne dust
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I need it for smite

wind spruce
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i need it for zealot

marble crater
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So you use this mod and the surge lmb spam macro loregryn

patent mango
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just use every mod in nexus

radiant frigate
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pressing r veri difficult

marble crater
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And then just walk and aim?

mossy oyster
nocturne dust
patent mango
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is this bistol jolly

radiant frigate
maiden oracle
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Does doing a push attack on a force weapon cost peril

patent mango
maiden oracle
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Oh man

radiant frigate
maiden oracle
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I keep nuking myself over that

patent mango
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almost?

ripe yacht
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You will burst yourself with it.

radiant frigate
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at least i think collateral is worse

patent mango
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lemme check

radiant frigate
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and you might run with the bistol for zoomies

nocturne dust
patent mango
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oh

radiant frigate
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i fink it is 4%

patent mango
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collat is just stagger

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bruh!!!!!!!!!

radiant frigate
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indeed

patent mango
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now i need a new one 1s

radiant frigate
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why stagger when you aim to murder?

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curious!

mossy oyster
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still enough to nuke you though

nocturne dust
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oh right, crack of bone also does that

mossy oyster
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kek imagine knowing your talents for your main

nocturne dust
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My main is staffker

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What's a gun anyway

marble crater
mossy oyster
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FGS isnt a gun

wind spruce
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crack of bone should only reduce the peril cost by 20% if its active froma kill, right?

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or does it have some weird interaction

marble crater
nocturne dust
patent mango
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ok lol

ripe obsidian
strong gulch
patent mango
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surgical deadly accurate bistol be like a pocket sniper

plucky flax
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40 mins of pain but bistol carried me

radiant ice
plucky flax
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It's so cool.

radiant ice
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I think I have it at Mastery 4 or something

plucky flax
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Bistol big sword my beloved.

radiant ice
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It's just, I like magic

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I want to use magic

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XD

plucky flax
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Assails and creeping flames your magic.

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Bistol for extra coolness and big sword for chopping big guys.

vernal temple
radiant ice
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Red weapons at home:

patent mango
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once you beat havoc 41 it unlocks it (its a mod)

maiden oracle
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Can the fgs push stagger multiple crushers

ripe obsidian
radiant ice
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I just, am on a near two year love affair with Inferno staff

vernal temple
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havoc 41? so we finally get to beat up Wolfer? pogryn

patent mango
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41 is nurgle boss fight

radiant ice
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It's hard to pick something else XD

plucky flax
maiden oracle
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I meant the push

vernal temple
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I can't fight Grandpa Nurgle 😦 He's such a silly goober

plucky flax
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No the push is single target.

patent mango
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if u beat him u get 100% stat weapons

maiden oracle
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Ok

vernal temple
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do I become the Warhammer 40,000 after that?

plucky flax
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100% warp resis big sword would be poop.

patent mango
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its just hammer after it

vernal temple
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no more war

nocturne dust
strong gulch
# maiden oracle Can the fgs push stagger multiple crushers

Force sword and GFS pushes are aoe; the push ATTACK is single target up to 9m and can stagger a crusher. The PA only builds peril if it connects with an enemy. It does a small amount of weak spot damage that can trigger KF (kinetic flayer; BB modifier) and explode heads if the mission modifier has that.

radiant ice
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Gahh

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Can these 30 mins hurry tf up

patent mango
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bistol + fgs gives equal dodges in all weps lol

radiant ice
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I don't wanna risk my havoc rank by being on during the flip as it got others last week

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But I wanna play XD

plucky flax
plucky flax
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Bruh moment.

hearty wolf
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Okay

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I finally did that fucking application

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@radiant frigate I summon you

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havoc

radiant frigate
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whar

hearty wolf
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we play

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rn

nocturne dust
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reset is coming, no?

hearty wolf
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oh

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yeah

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get ur havoc 40

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before it locks in

fiery stratus
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nahh

radiant frigate
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would that even work

nocturne dust
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You have to finish it before the reset

hearty wolf
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Only one way to find ou-

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stop

radiant frigate
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15 min havoc 40 sounds unlikely

strong gulch
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People have had their progress reset while playing havoc during the reset. If you don't care about play. If you do care wait until after the reset.

hearty wolf
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Stop giving Kat excuses not to play Void

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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you ALSO didn't plday y.day...

radiant frigate
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what if we play in 15 minutes

hearty wolf
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Okay

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bet

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@nocturne dust come too?

nocturne dust
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sure

ripe obsidian
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@strong gulch D&D is over. Gonna light things on fire with a sword in the near future.

nocturne dust
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As a DM, D&D is never over 😔

hearty wolf
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cool

fiery stratus
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never been able to get into dnd

strong gulch
fiery stratus
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my brain doesnt do rp

hearty wolf
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who is our 4th

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@clear heath are you alive

ripe obsidian
queen parcel
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couldja get one of your party members to run a one-shot?

ripe obsidian
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I was running a one-shot, ha.

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But yeah, I probably could.

queen parcel
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give you a break from the Eternal Duty so u can just rp and hit stuff

clear heath
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after mission

nocturne dust
ripe obsidian
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That's the main campaign!

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We'll be hitting 5 years of this campaign in January.

nocturne dust
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Dang

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Das a long campaign

fiery stratus
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i played like 6 sessions with some friends, took an hour to get through one round of combat

fiery stratus
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not fun

nocturne dust
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that's normal, lol

fiery stratus
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zzz

ripe obsidian
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Combat sucks in D&D.

nocturne dust
fiery stratus
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real snooze fest

ripe obsidian
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We usually go like 3+ sessions without combat. Very RP-focused.

nocturne dust
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Just be a number nerd like me 🤓

fiery stratus
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your visual representation is 4 dudes standing on a mat with some squares

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the rest is all in your head and im not that creative

marble crater
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5 minutes, I wonder what my havoc 39 mission will be pogryn

radiant frigate
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it does not look very comfy down there

strong gulch
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Fair. There are online options with cool maps now tho. Easier to acquire than irk intricate setups.

nocturne dust
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Yeah, I use FoundryVTT

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It lets you do a lot like add special effects and sounds, etc.

fiery stratus
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i also dont care for turn based games, so that probably doesn't help

strong gulch
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Pobably not lol

nocturne dust
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lol, real time D&D is called larping

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not for the faint of heart

ripe obsidian
fiery stratus
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the only larping i like is that kind thats a sport. Where people are hitting each other with blunt swords hard as fuck

zinc phoenix
zinc phoenix
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Preferably the legal kind

fiery stratus
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under 1 minute for reset

nocturne dust
zinc phoenix
radiant frigate
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number go up

fiery stratus
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i got blight spreads and pox gas at rank 35 KEKW_ogryn

zinc phoenix
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The 40 rewards are quite pointless

lone ravine
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Aquila rewards from havoc when 🥺

fiery stratus
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never

zinc phoenix
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I’d start taking it more seriously then

fiery stratus
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they're never going to let people earn premium shop currency

zinc phoenix
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I mean yeah

nocturne dust
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😔

radiant ice
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Greedshark

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Fatshark really do embody all the 7 sins

radiant frigate
fiery stratus
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Thats what happens when you take money from tencent

radiant ice
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Sloth, obvious if you've been here more than a few months

zinc phoenix
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OK so I have a 4hr block open for derptide tomorrow from 11 to 2 central time us

strong gulch
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Even 500k ordos would be too little. Gib gamble money.

hearty wolf
zinc phoenix
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If people want to do a couple 40s a that time lmk

ripe obsidian
fiery stratus
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yeah, not sure why the material is so much but the dockets are nothing

radiant ice
zinc phoenix
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Welcome to the club second week peasants

unkempt juniper
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what are the recommended force gs blessings?

fiery stratus
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30k+ platsteel as a reward 6 months ago would be fucking bananas

strong gulch
nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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@nocturne dust r?

nocturne dust
radiant ice
hearty wolf
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we vc or no

clear heath
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sure

ripe obsidian
fiery stratus
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just bring it and play every second of the day

radiant ice
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You guys running a 40? Got a slot for one more?

clear heath
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idk who else is joining

nocturne dust
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Me, sin, you, and kat

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iirc

hearty wolf
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ye

radiant ice
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I see how it is!

fiery stratus
remote shadow
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Siblings, I require a build for the Moonlight Greatsword, preferably with staff compatibility

fiery stratus
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wrong game

hearty wolf
ripe obsidian
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@strong gulch This could be interesting.

plucky flax
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Veri pro good luck gamers

radiant ice
remote shadow
split lance
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Where my girlies at

radiant ice
radiant ice
split lance
strong gulch
split lance
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Oh I’m not on

fiery stratus
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they full

fathom adder
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What about Unstable Power

split lance
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I just wanna know where my girlies are at

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Like @lethal lagoon

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He’s one of my girlies

lethal lagoon
split lance
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He’s going to post

maiden oracle
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What’s the dump on fgs

split lance
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Fuck

maiden oracle
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Warp res?

fiery stratus
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yes

maiden oracle
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Got it

split lance
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U beat me to it

lethal lagoon
fiery stratus
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any for havoc? still need last 5 levels

split lance
lethal lagoon
remote shadow
fiery stratus
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yep

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defence deals with the mobility, you want that

strong gulch
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The dodges of FGS are already poopoo and WR has smol scaling.

radiant ice
split lance
lethal lagoon
split lance
marble crater
lethal lagoon
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I hate when my servers aren't private

split lance
lethal lagoon
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I am consistently a hypocrite, which ironically makes me not a hypocrite.

strong gulch
radiant ice
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sigh

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Just tried a 40

fiery stratus
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it went well

radiant ice
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Two books zealots, never got any gold toughness the whole match

fiery stratus
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hell yeah

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good players

strong gulch
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uhhh

radiant ice
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Gonna try again though and hope it was just positioning, they seem okie XD

fiery stratus
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if you know how to use chorus properly you generally instinctively know when to pull it

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and know that you should be near your teammates

radiant ice
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Oh nevermind, one is swapping to an Ogryn

marble crater
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Pull it whenever it's off cooldown loregryn

fiery stratus
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thatll fix it

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nah you dont really want to do that

marble crater
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I do want to do that staregryn

fiery stratus
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you can do that with voice of command since it so easy to get it back, but its harder with zealot unless youre doing lots of critting

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if psykers are playing the forefront they'll handle a lot

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so youre more support, or should be

marble crater
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That's what the psykers with Psykentic's Aura are for KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
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In VC 68 if u wanna run a thing. Gonna afk for a moment tho.

fiery stratus
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all good

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Anyone wanna run auric something? probably no havoc rn

marble crater
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I only want to run under my blanket and sleep

fiery stratus
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do it

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i got to bed at like 9pm sometimes if im tired

marble crater
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1am for me, I don't have much of a choice KEKW_ogryn

fiery stratus
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then sleep smh

radiant ice
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I just can't, hosted one and immediately the 3 people spread out to different rooms and we all died

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I got my penance, just gonna let my havoc rank die

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XD

muted grove
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What’s the fastest way to farm for the upgrade mats?

ripe obsidian
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@strong gulch We didn't win. I took way more damage than I should've, mostly from a BoN that ate me and 20 ragers deciding I was too intact.

I will try again.

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I almost got top damage. Would've if I hadn't died.

remote shadow
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HEHEHEHEHEHHH

queen parcel
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holy shit I need to unlock that weapon

remote shadow
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I had the Grinder set to Damnation btw

queen parcel
remote shadow
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I two to three-shot Crushers with the pistol, too

split lance
split lance
lethal lagoon
split lance
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Oh

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I’m

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Actually

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I watched it in mobile

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Not full screen

strong gulch
hidden coral
# remote shadow

First off, very good, good endorphins 😌

Secondly, this was a good way to learn you can't overload from the greatsword special divernoted Was cautious for nothing

modest patrol
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Delayed response — cookin time on my side here. These are delightful contributions. 🫡

ripe obsidian
ripe obsidian
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I keep ending up as the last person standing, just with zero horde clear

ripe obsidian
split lance
strong gulch
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@radiant ice look

lofty marsh
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Dude, this high intense auric damm was WAY easier than I was expecting

strong gulch
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can demote

lofty marsh
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Just not that many enemies

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weird

radiant ice
strong gulch
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OH

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lmao

ripe obsidian
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I keep ending up in, "Oh, everyone else is dead. When did that happen?" situations

fiery stratus
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Anyone be 4th for havoc?

maiden oracle
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How do you deal with a horde of ragers with fgs

ripe obsidian
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Special attack to stagger

fiery stratus
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poke head

ripe obsidian
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Then heavy attack

deft stump
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stroke sword, BOOM.

maiden oracle
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Can I fire off a special attack if I don’t have any charges

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I think it raised my peril but I didn’t see anything else

strong gulch
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yes you can

deft stump
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It's just really weak without charges.

strong gulch
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It's just for stagger in this case

maiden oracle
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Got it

fiery stratus
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@radiant ice you wanna do havoc 39?

maiden oracle
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So special light and then heavy spam?

strong gulch
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Yes. You might be able to do 2 heavies then need to move and stagger again

plucky flax
long wharf
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is the dueling sword uncanny strike improperly proccing for the ranged weapon as well?

remote shadow
# remote shadow

Put it through the paces in a Heresy Chasm Station Terminus.
Yeah it's good

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Two more matches and I'll have completed 1000 total

radiant ice
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But could host a 40 tomorrow if you want

fiery stratus
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all good, we're just doing qp

lofty marsh
plucky flax
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Maybe need to play maelstrom.

lofty marsh
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Maelstrom was boring 😦

delicate dove
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Anyone know if they finally patched out the jank of the electro staff when used with warp flurry?

maiden oracle
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Thinking about trying out the flame staff

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Is it strictly for horde clear or can it deal with mixed hordes too

ashen schooner
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it melts everything but crushers

delicate dove
ashen schooner
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add in an uncanny sword and it even melts them too

maiden oracle
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Does it hit flak or carapace on maulers

ashen schooner
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flak

maiden oracle
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Nice

delicate dove
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it does fuckall to carapace

ripe obsidian
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@strong gulch Done.

maiden oracle
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What perks and blessings

ripe obsidian
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The veteran joined late after a ragequit

ashen schooner
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iirc all dot stuff damages the chest

muted grove
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what mod can i use to track soulblaze stacks?

ripe obsidian
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Others were there the whole time

strong gulch
ashen schooner
bold cape
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definitely not the fastest way but you can do it

true cairn
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Psyker boys, thinking about getting started with the class - anyone got gun psyker recommendations?

hearty wolf
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ggs

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@radiant frigate also how did you find it?

radiant frigate
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with the two bursters through the fence

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that just decided to go without warning

clear heath
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first game was 50 min, second was 37 min

nocturne dust
clear heath
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yeah second round was way shorter lol

nocturne dust
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That was a wall they can't get over

radiant frigate
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first i went Huh?

nocturne dust
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That's true, it's very weird for it to run there

radiant frigate
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then it exploded

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then you picked me up

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just in time for the next one

nocturne dust
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lmao picked you up right as the second exploded

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I was out of range too, so you are the only one who got poxburstered KEKW_ogryn

radiant frigate
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so turns out running corruption resist in havoc does absolutely nothing

strong gulch
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How did the havocs go?

radiant frigate
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cleared two

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reasonably smooth

strong gulch
radiant frigate
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i pressed f a bunch

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shot some heretics, stabbed some heretics

nocturne dust
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no true survivor 😔

radiant frigate
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untrue survivor

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true die-er

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and now i have another title i am never going to use

hearty wolf
radiant frigate
clear heath
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I have like 1 corruption resist perk but it's pretty much a throwaway

hearty wolf
radiant frigate
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unsure what third stat to put on my curios tbh

clear heath
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could replace it and i probably won't notice

radiant frigate
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i had some on for normals

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to survive burster after getting picked up

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(you know, just in case)

hearty wolf
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;)

clear heath
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I have cdr toughness and 2x gunner res 1x corruption res

radiant frigate
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but it is not enough without the appropriate health level

clear heath
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maybe i'll just do 3x gunner res

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gunners still kinda hurt

radiant frigate
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i should probably go 3x toughness instead of corruptionr esist

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cdr seems core for havoc

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also i should probably go to bed

dull gyro
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best blessings and perks for voidstrike bois?

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pls?

hearty wolf
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Yeah I run 3* cdr, toughness and hp on my curios but on Psyker it's CDR, toughness and roughness regen

radiant frigate
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flak maniac surge nexus i guess

nocturne dust
dull gyro
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thx ❤️

hearty wolf
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Either way, those runs were sickeningly easy with a weird comp

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Next time I sentence us to Gloriana

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With gas and goo

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And lights out

nocturne dust
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I mean I was running very typical bubble purg for havoc

radiant frigate
hearty wolf
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Ngl think people are sleeping on that 20% damage from ecclesiarchy

muted grove
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how many clicks with purg staff to get full stacks? anyone know?

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
nocturne dust
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Blaze Away? Soulblaze?

muted grove
nocturne dust
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15

muted grove
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the normal purg fire stacks

hearty wolf
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O ic. I felt like a lot of the havoc builds I saw skip it

nocturne dust
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-1 per crit

radiant frigate
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depends on crits

nocturne dust
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because crits apply 2 stacks

clear heath
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proud of kat for having like 5x more melee damage than most psykers would

nocturne dust
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although really you should be using RMB to apply stacks

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LMB is only for stagger

radiant frigate
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disappointed by kat for not topping melee damage (smh)

muted grove
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ohreally, do you know how much a fully charged attack is?

hearty wolf
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Who did more melee damage xd

nocturne dust
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way more than 15

radiant frigate
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it was json and by a long shot

nocturne dust
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but you want to keep flaming and pushing forward

muted grove
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how many stacks from a fully charged up rmb ** sorry im sleepy

radiant frigate
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i will chalk it up to not being particularly comfortable with 40s

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and/or 200 ping

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i have plenty of excuses at the ready

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it is among my specialties

hearty wolf
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How are you at 200 ping 🤔

radiant frigate
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EU

hearty wolf
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Same

radiant frigate
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pretty average ping level to the US for me

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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This my ping to west is around 160

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We need havoc 50 though fr

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Or void on vet

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If we were gonna do a 3rd run there, I would have joined on Psyker too

radiant frigate
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now that you mention it

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REALLY odd that we didn't die instantly

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3 psykers yet the curse skipped us

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usually that is an omen of death

hearty wolf
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My faith is strong

bold cape
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might be on tmrw around this time
been busy as hell

clear heath
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We had so much stagger and 3 bubbles and chorus

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very hard to kill

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I had smite and used it 0 times cause i didn't feel like it was needed

hearty wolf
nocturne dust
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It helps that we're all good enough that we can handle one of us dying pretty easily

hearty wolf
bold cape
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most of my havocs were 3 psykers and me on zealot
i think we had rending trauma, purg and surge

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2/3 bubbles

bold cape
nocturne dust
radiant frigate
hearty wolf
radiant frigate
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played it safe with either trauma or smite

hearty wolf
radiant frigate
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had i known that void was running purg i would have made a rending trauma

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
hearty wolf
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I ate shit so many times but never downed

clear heath
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I'm the handicap
If the run feels too easy i'll run out and get downed to balance it out

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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Nah we just need to all run Vet and we'll time our shouts to be like a shitty version of chorus (but with stagger)

nocturne dust
clear heath
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gatekeeping that true survivor so only i can have it

radiant frigate
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tasty overhead

hearty wolf
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That was a phase dimensional overhead

radiant frigate
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oh i believe it

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like the phase dimensional bursters

hearty wolf
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It was that dumb bug where I'm ice skating again and then I dodged but it hit me anyways

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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Interesting.

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I honestly could have been too early maybe. But based on where my dodge took me and where the overhead landed, it didn't feel like it should have hit

nocturne dust
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Game just told you 'no'

radiant frigate
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new patch introduced warp travel for overheads

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you think you dodged? lol no

hearty wolf
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(What I mean is the I Frames were maybe poorly timed but I should have been safe via physical position)

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I wouldn't mind warp imbued enemies

nocturne dust
hearty wolf
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Pack of crushers pulls up

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One of them begins smiting you

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Sniper has had enough of your shit. No more dodging, they're using BB on you

nocturne dust
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Sometimes my dodge has to be almost after the overhead, while other times I've had to dodge right at the start of the animation

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and the only way I figure that out is after a couple hit

hearty wolf
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Ah well. Those games made me feel a lot better compared to the game I started at the beginning of the day

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I tried to argue for beacon of purity zealot instead of benediction for some reason with no corruption modifiers

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Then I died first too

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Omega dooming

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Switched off game, came back and we sweeped

clear heath
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Do these chests look exactly the same regardless of havoc level?

clear heath
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I like how they show us this box as havoc rewards as if it means anything

radiant frigate
radiant frigate
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smh

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false advertising

hearty wolf
clear heath
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"climb high enough and i'll give you a box that looks exactly the same with an unknown amount of rewards"

hearty wolf
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I can just imagine crushers. Imagine if they had their blitzes

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That would be fucking terrifying

radiant frigate
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crushers start throwing rocks at you

hearty wolf
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Or blow up the entire map

radiant frigate
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reapers start chucking the big ogryn grenades

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gunners throw kraks at YOU

hearty wolf
#

That sounds like a horror game

#

I want to play it

radiant frigate
radiant frigate
#

delectable

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anyway good to see that bigsword is still good even on 40

hearty wolf
#

Yeah everything is viable more or less when you're running with a group like that too. Even if you dial down the amount of cc and what not, I reckon we still would have easily been fine

radiant frigate
#

still, probably better to play it safe

#

last thing i want is someone to eat an overhead and just be dead on the spot

#

smite/trauma it is

remote shadow
#

Hold me siblings
Just completed a Hi-Intens STG Heresy Smelter Complex with the sword business I posted earlier

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We cleared but THRONE

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The CARNAGE

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I didn't die ONCE btw

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The hordeclear Toughness generation is crazy

hearty wolf
#

Also everything was constantly dead

#

So there's that

remote shadow
#

Oh my Throne
I just cleared my kills per 30 seconds score

The highest I'd gotten it to was 93/120 on Zealot
This match, on this Psyker build, I just pushed it to 102/120

clear heath
radiant frigate
#

fried heretics are the best kind of heretics

#

aside from thinly sliced heretics ofc

#

but who says you can't combine them?

patent mango
#

4 melee psyker havoc

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i'd join that tbh

wheat seal
clear heath
#

the builds everywhere are bad

wheat seal
hearty wolf
nocturne dust
#

I would've been fine if it weren't for the mutant hmmgryn

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Also, rager ignoring my lmb, smh my head

patent mango
#

NOOOO i clicked cosmetics on fgs

#

game exploded

nocturne dust
#

What did I even do to them? I'm only trying to kill them, smh my head

dense flume
#

So, in learning that warp splitting (cleave in general?) affects assail, I was wondering if there's more less-than-intuitive effects that cleave has? With any staves, perhaps?

clear heath
#

cleave is also very good for voidstrike

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helpful for some guns too

#

the rest is pretty straightforward i think

dense flume
#

Okay so voidstrike's secondary has to go through that modifier (can't remember what it was called) to potentially deal more damage to enemies in the blast radius?

nocturne dust
#

no

dense flume
#

Damn it lol

nocturne dust
#

Voidstrike's blast radius is the least important thing on it

#

Voidstrike wants to cleave with the ball projectile

clear heath
#

Yeah it's for the ball passing through things, not for the aoe

nocturne dust
#

In fact, you dump blast radius on Voidstrike, and it is the only staff that dumps something other than warp res, lol

dense flume
#

OH okay. I didnt know it did that. Gotcha

#

Gonna have to be my next plaything I think. Alright thanks for the info

wheat seal
#

what's the best way to upgrade your mastery weapons?

nocturne dust
#

buy greys from brunt

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make em green

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sacrifice em

wheat seal
nocturne dust
#

whoever told you that is dumb

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green and gold have no xp difference

wheat seal
nocturne dust
wheat seal
#

didn't play since a longtime so

#

It was logic for me that gold was better than green xd

nocturne dust
#

Well you're not dumb since you at least checked the logic KEKW_ogryn

wheat seal
#

haha thanks

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upgrade all my weapons in green

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take a long time

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😢

nocturne dust
#

You should only do it for weapons of the same type

#

since that gives way more xp

wheat seal
#

so if I want to upgrade my blaze force, I sacrifice blaze force?

nocturne dust
#

yes

wheat seal
#

thanks man

nocturne dust
#

but only if it's of the same family

#

so you sacrifice blaze force greatswords to blaze force greatswords, but not to normal blaze force swords

wheat seal
#

oh okay

dusk void
#

Great, 11 game losing streak. How wonderful

#

This is BS

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I just need 1 win smh

true cairn
lethal lagoon
#

Being willing to lose 11 games in a row on darktide is impressive.

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5 hits my pyschological limit

true cairn
scarlet comet
true cairn
#

About to try damnation

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Famous last words

#

You should try to find a hi intensity shock trooper gauntlet

#

Very easy modifier for newer players

#

I assure you

lethal lagoon
hearty wolf
lethal lagoon
#

Oh no wait, I found one thing wrong.

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EE is better than anticpation.

hearty wolf
#

(empathetic evasion)

lethal lagoon
#

anticipation doesn't work as well as you think.

nocturne dust
#

Actually the +1 dodge is nice

lethal lagoon
#

nice at cementing in bad habits

nocturne dust
#

and EE doesn't do all that much without a fast-firing weapon

lethal lagoon
scarlet comet
nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
#

Yeah, I'll go back to my first thought, which is that there's nothing wrong with your build.

clear heath
#

Would still rather take the EE in that build

lethal lagoon
#

same

clear heath
#

plus that anticipation is taking up 2 nodes

nocturne dust
#

Warp Expenditure is a strange choice

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and not quietude

lethal lagoon
#

He wants the gen during SG, not after? shrug

clear heath
#

oh i didn't notice that

nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
#

Yes that's what Im saying

nocturne dust
#

🤷‍♂️ It's not a meta build but it is a build.

lethal lagoon
#

All the choices appear rational and based on reality

dusk void
#

Make it a 12 game losing streak

#

My teammates suck

clear heath
#

swap anticipation to EE and you save 1 point from pathing, switch warp expenditure to quietude or whatever

dusk void
#

I NEED JUST ONE MOTHERFUCKING WIN

clear heath
#

havoc losing streak?

dusk void
#

And then some aurics too

scarlet comet
#

thanks guys, i'll give that a try. i imagine once i get to the higher difficulties i'll look into a more meta build and choose some more team centric talents but for now this is fun

true cairn
#

@proper cypress this is your new home

split lance
#

my beloved

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homie

#

dawg

nocturne dust
#

wat

split lance
#

lil upset no petname back

#

ngl

nocturne dust
#

I don't ever use petnames

#

Ever

#

I can do havoc in ten minutes

strong gulch
#

Same. Can in a few minutes.

split lance
#

i was just about to @ you

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69

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im a lil drunk btw

#

but should be alls good

maiden oracle
#

Dump stat on blaze sword is warp res right

#

And we just never use the special attack at all?

nocturne dust
#

Yes, except for Illisi which uses special

maiden oracle
#

Alright

nocturne dust
#

still dumps warp res tho, normally

icy wyvern
#

fellas am i cooked

fathom adder
#

Jokes aside, I'm not sure that the damage stat actually matters much for the Inferno staff. I know it can be dumped on the Flamer (it makes fuckall difference and only applies to the first target hit by the flame directly) but I don't know offhand about the staff.

strong gulch
#

Damage does matter now with blaze away. Direct damage does a lot more. If you mainly sweep you won't get as much value.

nocturne dust
#

and if people keep stealing your warpfire, direct damage will be all you have

strong gulch
#

That being said, if you don't have excess resources or are just tired of getting fecked by brunt, damage dump is fine.

nocturne dust
#

Even if damage did nothing though, you would still want to dump warp res

#

because shrieking even harder if you don't

strong gulch
#

yip

nocturne dust
#

@lethal lagoon every time I run psyker with you we get dumpstered

strong gulch
split lance
nocturne dust
#

Hey, you guys skipped out on me for 3 days angymorrow

strong gulch
plucky flax
#

Good luck gang

nocturne dust
#

I'm sure nothing will go horribly wrong

plucky flax
nocturne dust
primal plume
#

Why does female loner say "Blunt" with a hard L

#

"Humanity shouldnt be reduced to scavenging waste. Even if they are BLLLLunts"

wind spruce
fathom adder
strong gulch
#

@nocturne dust @split lance @lethal lagoon No problems.

thorn cedar
frosty pasture
#

Has the max level been raised?

wind spruce
potent echo
#

Havoc levels causing so much confusion whatthefuck_heresy

upper galleon
thorn cedar
#

that's just my schizophrenia

delicate dove
#

Hey, they fixed electro staff jank. How nice

#

Didn't even notice

split lance
#

@lethal lagoon

potent echo
#

Perfect little holes for hand sweat gunk 🫦

frosty pasture
#

horrid

split lance
#

these mice combined are 500 dollars

analog agate
#

I have a lot of mice lol. Probably 1000 dollars worth

split lance
#

i am not financially responsibel

#

i had a gpx superlight

#

and my cat destroyed it

#

just got a op1 8k

#

and i really like it

split lance
#

my hands dont sweat when i game

#

like ever

potent echo
ripe obsidian
#

Okay, I played a few high Havoc missions and realized how rarely I actually get Warp Battery to 6 charges before I throw another bubble down. Back on the KF train I get.

nocturne dust
frosty pasture
#

Best force greatsword?

ripe obsidian
#

It would be nice if I could rely on getting charges from things dying while on fire, but RNG hates me

wind spruce
kindred ivy
#

enhanded bltiz

#

smite

#

is the stupidest thing

#

ever

nocturne dust
#

does smite even get enhanced by enhanced blitz

frosty pasture
fading patrol
split lance
#

it was before i had a brain

strong gulch
#

Not in bubble. MAD

fading patrol
nocturne dust
#

@lethal lagoon @split lance @strong gulch ggs

strong gulch
#

@nocturne dust Did you post yesterday's game?

#

ye gg

nocturne dust
strong gulch
nocturne dust
#

we did 2 of those iirc

#

or 3? maybe 3

strong gulch
#

Oh. Um I think it was the last one.

#

If you did all of them, I'll watch em eventually if you give links.

nocturne dust
#

I think the reason we generally lose is just how aggressive and uncohesive Tren and Atlas are, which is nothing against them since Auric teaches that. But my runs without them I notice everyone sticks together so much more and generally at least one person is calling to move backward any time there's a horde.

bleak frost
#

why does everyone see a shield and immediately think that they should run away from it.

nocturne dust
strong gulch
ripe obsidian
#

I had a team abandon me to like eight ragers and a Beast of Nurgle. D:

patent jacinth
#

I can't stab things from inside the bubble

#

They are over there

#

And the bubble is over here

bleak frost
ripe obsidian
#

They immediately lost because I was 100% of their damage. It was brutal.

umbral steppe
#

Ya'll, I'm curious.

With the new Greatsword, is Melee Psyker actually real now.

ripe obsidian
nocturne dust
#

You can definitely get spicy damage numbers with meleeker now provided ranged doesn't eat all the enemies first.

patent jacinth
#

I think it’s real

umbral steppe
#

Cuz I kinda wanna try it?

nocturne dust
#

Go for it. You can do it even in Havoc.

#

You'll need a lot of skill tho.

fathom adder
#

Melee Psyker is real and it does melt faces. It is also much less forgiving than sitting under a bubble and blasting away with a staff

#

Randoms will typically not let you in to Havoc without le bubble

nocturne dust
#

Json runs Havoc meleeker with bubble

#

and he nearly outdamages me while I'm running purg angymorrow

#

Although to be fair I'm not much of a damage hog

fathom adder
#

Is it really a melee psyker without scriers though? Otherwise it's just a psyker with a bigger sword

umbral steppe
#

Here's me current build.

#

Using Dueling Sword and Voidstrike.

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

I am judging you harshly

fathom adder
umbral steppe
#

Im only LvL 28, but the last two are Seers Presence and Psychic Vampire.

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

For one, don't take puppetmaster

#

Take solidity

#

For two

#

you're on the staff side of the tree, meleeker is right side generally

umbral steppe
#

This ain;t for a Melee Psyker Build.

nocturne dust
#

For three, you're using the only staff that can work on the right side whatthefuck_heresy

nocturne dust
#

Also don't take warp expenditure, take quietude

umbral steppe
#

Just a good Brain Burst Build, I know I should change Voidstrike to the Fire Staff.

umbral steppe
nocturne dust
#

How much do you want to focus on BB

nocturne dust
#

Take Quietude

#

Warp Expenditure is literally just half quietude

#

so unless over half your peril is going missing when you hit 100%, it's worse

umbral steppe
#

I see.

#

Also I haven't shown my weapons cuz I haven't grinded them yet until I get to LvL 30.

nocturne dust
#

Plus it's just useful to diversify and have some regen when you're not attacking

umbral steppe
#

I see.

umbral steppe
nocturne dust
#

That's convenient

umbral steppe
#

Cuz Empathic Evasion works with the fire crits.

nocturne dust
#

Here's the only guide I've written

#

which is for Inferno and DS

umbral steppe
#

I see.

#

It's the best staff too form what I've been told.

nocturne dust
#

It's pre-Havoc though. I'm rewriting it for Havoc but that's on Steam and not done yet.

nocturne dust
#

Prior to Havoc, it's either 2nd or 3rd best depending on how you value safety.

umbral steppe
#

I see.

#

In Fire Reborn is better?

nocturne dust
#

For Inferno, yes

umbral steppe
#

I see.

#

This isn't so different from what I currently have, lmao.

wind spruce
umbral steppe
#

Interesting.

#

Question.

#

How hard is grinding for a good weapon.

#

Like, it is just time consuming or annoying.

lethal lagoon
#

like 4k plasteel, so about 6 auric maels

#

One high level havoc chest gives 30-40k plasteel

lethal lagoon
ripe obsidian
#

I really, really wish KF were guaranteed instead of a 10% chance

nocturne dust
#

Bruh, Havoc is a grind even when you know what you're doing

ripe obsidian
#

I hate sitting there with it up for like 10 elite kills, then it pops on the final half-dead shotgunner

lethal lagoon
#

Low level havoc chests give like 18k

nocturne dust
#

Much easier than before Unlocked and Loaded tho KEKW_ogryn

nocturne dust
umbral steppe
lethal lagoon
#

You don't remember your first chest?

#

We were only like level 26

umbral steppe
#

WHy do you have Blaze Away on the Inferno Staff? Nothing has a magazine.

nocturne dust
#

.....you were only like level 26

nocturne dust
#

It just stacks once per LMB, or really rapidly in RMB

umbral steppe
#

Huh?

lethal lagoon
#

Blaze away is mandatory on purg.

patent jacinth
#

It’s like percentage of charge or something

nocturne dust
#

no

umbral steppe
#

I thought Showstopper was good, but I guess I am wrong, lmao.

nocturne dust
#

It doesn't care about percentage

patent jacinth
nocturne dust
#

It stacks once per lmb, or rapidly in rmb

umbral steppe
#

Ohhhh.

nocturne dust
#

The 3 best blessings are Blaze Away (by far), Warp Nexus, and then Penetrating Flame

umbral steppe
#

I knew Warp Nexus was good though.

umbral steppe
#

What does Brittlness mean?

nocturne dust
#

Brittleness is a debuff

umbral steppe
#

Their really should be a Glossary in game.

jovial oak
#

it was 60 warp resist and after upgrading it's now 64

verbal thistle
nocturne dust
#

Rending is a buff applied to yourself, Brittleness is the same thing but as a debuff to enemies

#

Both increase your damage against armored enemies

umbral steppe
#

Ohhh.

#

Yeah, that sounds good.

nocturne dust
#

(and unyielding)

#

(and some other stuff iirc)

jovial oak
#

think of rending as armor pen and brittleness as armor shred

nocturne dust
#

Rending is really, really good

#

Brittleness isn't as good, but still kinda useful

patent jacinth
#

Brittleness is limited by its nature as a debuff

nocturne dust
#

No, it's just arbitrarily limited to 40%

patent jacinth
#

And that

nocturne dust
#

which Penetrating Flame can go over KEKW_ogryn

patent jacinth
#

Forgot about that

nocturne dust
#

but not by itself

jovial oak
#

I thought brittle could go unlimited but it had diminishing returns

umbral steppe
#

Then for Dueling Sword, I think Riposte, Precog, Uncanny Strike and Thrust are the best.

jovial oak
#

or did they change that again

nocturne dust
#

the second blessing is a matter of debate

#

I prefer shred on zealot or thrust on psyker

umbral steppe
#

So I was rught.

nocturne dust
#

because of how they play and are used differently

split lance
#

i tried out riposte for a bit, im definitely a shred enjoyer

nocturne dust
#

Precog enjoyers scare me

umbral steppe
#

Its fun.

#

I wish Chainaxe was good though.

strong gulch
#

I'm too sloppy for precog.

nocturne dust
#

I mean, I don't think precog is meta

strong gulch
#

I also don't enjoy on dodge blessings.

nocturne dust
#

Its activation is too finicky and its duration is too short

#

but I don't enjoy any of the on-dodge blessings

umbral steppe
#

I see.

#

One more thing.

fathom adder
#

Precog is probably better on Zealot as it stacks additively with Duelist

umbral steppe
#

For Curios, don't you want 2 Toughness and 1 Max Stam?

split lance
#

no

nocturne dust
#

Depends

#

But not that, no

split lance
#

1-2hp 1-2 tough

wind spruce
nocturne dust
#

Generally, you want to get up to 201 HP

#

so you take 1 health curio and 1 health substat

umbral steppe
#

I thought toughness was better then health.

strong gulch
#

I know people can get great use out of precog, but yeah the duration and activation requirement are not for me.

Heck. It's not for some folks who swear by it. I remember some posting about how good it is with a video but precog was not up for most of their stabbing.

nocturne dust
#

then you put the rest in toughness, only taking stamina if you want it

nocturne dust
umbral steppe
#

I see.

nocturne dust
#

So while toughness is generally better

#

there are scenarios you want health

#

(like poxbursters)

wind spruce
nocturne dust
#

(and snipers)

umbral steppe
#

Cuz right now I have 2 + 12% Toughness and a +15% toughnes.

#

2 Green and 1 Blue.

strong gulch
#

IF you invest heavily into toughness, grab the flat +15 toughness nodes on the talent tree. That way the curios have more to work off of.

nocturne dust
#

Eh, that's only if you want to go toughness maxxing

#

but like

umbral steppe
#

I see.

nocturne dust
#

toughness is just not useful at a certain point

wind spruce
#

250 toughness gaming chadgryn

nocturne dust
#

and you want more damage

#

cuz no matter how much toughness or health you have, the crusher won't care (barring specific anti-one-shot tactics)

wind spruce
nocturne dust
wind spruce
# nocturne dust

Wait can u actually survive a crusher overhead now that we've had toughness buffed

#

This changes nothing!

wind spruce
#

I've never seen proof

nocturne dust
#

You have to use bubble's TDR tho iirc

#

which means very specific timing

wind spruce
#

Ahhh

umbral steppe
#

Cleave Damage is the dump stat for DS, yeah?

nocturne dust
#

Cleave or Mobility

#

Cleave is preferred

#

Mobility is acceptable

umbral steppe
#

So my Blue DS i've been using is good, lmao.

#

It's 49/79% Damage.
50/80% Finesse.
59/80% Penetration.
57/80% Mobility.
31/61% Cleave Damage.

#

And still only at blue.

nocturne dust
#

0/10

umbral steppe
#

Guh?

nocturne dust
#

not perfect

#

1% off of damage? Immediate trash

#

/s

umbral steppe
#

Ruh-Roh Raggy.

kindred ivy
umbral steppe
#

So close to greatness.

#

Thank god I have almost 400K Golden Dabloons to grind.

#

I haven't spent shit cuz I know I gotta state it for when I reach LvL 30, lmao.

wind spruce
#

for fucking fucks sake

#

you should not be able to get hit by other damage sources when youre inside a burgle

umbral steppe
#

You can?

#

That's dumb.

eager token
#

fire is the fun one

#

dragged through a bombers grenade in a burgle belly schizo

fathom adder
#

We're just lucky getting eaten or even vomited on by one isn't instant death

nocturne dust
umbral steppe
#

I cannot stand.

#

That if you get pinned as the final person up.