psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

Shrapnel staff, blackhole staff, beam staff

[dusky crag]

beam staff

lol

[nocturne dust]

Eh

I want a boss killer staff and melee-assist staff

[broken carbon]

bolt staff

[marble crater]

Trauma staff that releases surge staff charged attacks around the impact zone

[broken carbon]

please

i need a bolt staff

[nocturne dust]

but beam staff is not what I want for boss-killer

[broken carbon]

i know that void staff basically is bolt staff but like

:(

[vernal temple]

for some reason I'm thinking of a staff that lets you mind control a selected enemy (gradually increasing your peril) lmao

[maiden oracle]

What is assail weave

[broken carbon]

weaving assail into melee

or into staff usage

[maiden oracle]

Oh is that the flying rocks

[broken carbon]

basically swapping to and fro quickly

[wind spruce]

Switch to assail, left click twice, switch back

[bold cape]

that’s some heretical shit

[broken carbon]

to throw a shard or two

yeah

[wind spruce]

Takes less than a second

[maiden oracle]

Yea I been liking that but I don’t really know how to use it well

[broken carbon]

yah the homing shards

[maiden oracle]

I’m assuming lmb for hordes and rmb for sniping

Feels like it take a while to lock on though

[marble crater]

Pretty much

[broken carbon]

lmb for basically everything but long ranged single targets

[marble crater]

Throw assail, be happy

[nocturne dust]

pretty much, but you can get away with lmb sniping for some situations

[broken carbon]

it should be about instant

[maiden oracle]

It feels like it just loop de loops away from the target

[vernal temple]

Now listen!

mind control a Crusher and watch him bonk surrounding enemies. When you reach 100% peril the enemy is released with an AoE explosion

[maiden oracle]

So I end up chucking the entire thing at a single gunner

[broken carbon]

it follows your aim

[maiden oracle]

I see the issue now

[broken carbon]

it’ll go at targets near your crosshair

[marble crater]

[maiden oracle]

I’m going in again thanks for the help

[broken carbon]

lmfao

[broken carbon]

also RMB does not follow aim until it hits the target it was launched at

[maiden oracle]

I was treating that thing like a budget tknife I tossed and then instantly did a 180 to the horde

Allah

[strong gulch]

Swing melee, fling out an assail or 2, quickly switch back to melee and swing. That is assail weave. Can be done with ranged too, but it's usually done in melee.

Help clear hordes and stagger man sized things. If you have soulstealer, it's an easy way to get toughness back.

[broken carbon]

so you can throw it at a sniper and turn around

[bold cape]

this reminds me that i want a librarian class in sm2

[marble crater]

[maiden oracle]

What perks and blessings for greatsword

[broken carbon]

[broken carbon]

mk8, precog riposte carapace/flak unyielding

PA goes into a light or heavy stab

[bold cape]

wrath feels necessary for cleave unless you plan to be constantly at high peril with warp splitting with assail or whatnot
also much, much prefer mk6

[maiden oracle]

Yea I’m gonna be at high peril

[broken carbon]

mk6 is likes wrath

mk8 doesn’t really need it imo

[bold cape]

the overhead stab repeating on mk6 is just so good

[broken carbon]

which can one shot crushers

[strong gulch]

I need to get into the mk8. I haven't given it a fair shake yet. I just keep using the same only things.

[broken carbon]

pretty easily

[broken carbon]

it’s so much better than the mk6 imo

[radiant ice]

WHAT?!

SHUT YOUR HERESY

[ripe obsidian]

VI has better heavy combo, VIII has better light combo.

[radiant ice]

The Mk8 without Wrath is like the Imperium without the Emperor's light!

[strong gulch]

OH, maybe assail trauma so if and when I hate it, I have other weapons.

[broken carbon]

wrath isn’t needed because the quicker transition into heavies can snipe out elites pretty quickly, aka anything that will eat up cleave

[maiden oracle]

Holy shit I just went through 300k dockets rolling for a 60 warp res greatsword

I still didn’t get it

This shit sucks wtf

[radiant ice]

Wanna know a fun one?

[bold cape]

at least you can’t brick it once you finally do get it tho

[quartz barn]

now get one thats lower than 60

[radiant ice]

It took 1.2 million for me to get a 60 defence shield for my Ogryn

[broken carbon]

precog riposte does so good though….

[bold cape]

i use wrath riposte

[radiant ice]

Yup same

[broken carbon]

i’d probably run precog wrath for high havoc

tbh

[radiant ice]

I mean I'm partly teasing, but Wrath lifts both greatswords from 8/10 to 10/10

And I've used my Mk8 to great lengths and many matches at Havoc 40 XD

[broken carbon]

i’m pretty sure i feel like wrath isn’t needed

because i’m a zealot main

and i’m just used to managing cleave

[maiden oracle]

What’s the combos for mk8

[broken carbon]

high havoc absolutely needs wrath, that’s not debatable

[radiant ice]

Light attack spam for hordes, block/push/heavy for the stab into heavy spam for chonkies

It's really that simple

[ripe obsidian]

With 10 melee kills each mission!

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[broken carbon]

lights for hordes, overhead heavies for lighter elites (shotgunners, ragers), PA stab for heavier elites (ogryns, maulers, etc)

[radiant ice]

Alright alright, I was in sweat mode for our True Survivor run

[broken carbon]

LMFAO

a psyker fears melee…

[radiant ice]

And only meleeing Crushers none of you fuckers seemed to want to get off my ass

:|

By your own admission, that's 10

[ripe obsidian]

I read a book to the crushers

[radiant ice]

I'm actually running the Deimos atm though

Never really used it before

Trying to give all the weapons a fair go at high Havoc eventually

The Combat Axe is actually surprisingly super nice on a Psyker

Might use it on my support lightning build since it's main thing is single target damage or throwing mixed hordes on the floor to save a teammate

Nothing directly for getting swarmed yourself

(Well, the Mk8 is on the build currently for that purpose, but as a mixup may take the axe)

[ripe obsidian]

Auric HISTG. I stabbed.

[zinc phoenix]

I tend to PA ragers because it puts them on their butt for easier and safer stabbin

Altho gotta pick the right part of combo 😅

[broken carbon]

not above 600k melee damage

that’s basically fearing melee

[broken carbon]

yeah that’s true

both are fine options

depends on the situation

and also how confident you are with dodging

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't even have 600k damage total. D:

[broken carbon]

sry u are psyker noob…

tired of these newgens…….

[ripe obsidian]

It's true.

It is me. The true noob Psyker.

Totally unrelated, writing with a mouse is absurdly difficult.

[zinc phoenix]

Spoony Noobus

[strong gulch]

Yes

[broken carbon]

true noob LMFAO

[ripe obsidian]

Wait, there are too many big numbers on that screenshot

[zinc phoenix]

Picked the one haircut

[ripe obsidian]

This character is meant to look like a doofus

[clear heath]

Okay i got the I Wanna See mod

[muted grove]

what is the trick to juggling high peril with the purg staff?

[patent mango]

krall can literally change your personality but not do better haircuts

[timber cairn]

Plasma = Gets Hot or Blaze Away?

[clear heath]

This will block other people's flamers too right?

[ripe obsidian]

Gets Hot

[strong gulch]

Speaking of noob. Anyone want to drag me kicking and screaming through a mission? I've had an alcoholic beverage, so I will be extra bad. You can delight in my increidble reaction time.

[clear heath]

I wanna hide flamers and inferno staves cause i was in a run with 3 teammates using them and i couldn't see shit

[maiden oracle]

Is there a “general use” staff

Something that can do a bit of everything

[broken carbon]

this is peak

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike in non-Havoc

[maiden oracle]

What’s that again

[true cairn]

Sounds like the perfect storm for an extra poxburster extra barrel maelstrom

[maiden oracle]

Is that the ground explosion one

[broken carbon]

bowling ball

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/demon-cat-scary-cat-demon-scary-cat-gif-26356229

[clear heath]

ball staff

[ripe obsidian]

Staff that shoots bowling balls

[maiden oracle]

Oh ok

Sick it’s gonna be like that one chapter in Harry Potter

[strong gulch]

Cast, quell, and cast. If you start the cast below like 95, you should be good to completel the cast.

[ripe obsidian]

This is how the code describes Voidstrike

[maiden oracle]

What perks and blessings

[fiery stratus]

@strong gulch

[strong gulch]

Double barrel gloriana

[strong gulch]

Carry? Yes?

[fiery stratus]

u me

im bad

[strong gulch]

I will bring meme and die. So I will def carry. 🫡

[ripe obsidian]

Do you wanna shoot slower double-balls or more single balls? If the former, Nexus/Surge. If the latter, Flurry/Nexus or Surge.

[maiden oracle]

Is there a difference

[ripe obsidian]

And Flak+Maniac or Crit

Flurry build does higher DPS but less dopamine

Surge build does big damage and makes you feel powerful, but it takes like 2 seconds to charge each shot

[maiden oracle]

I like big balls

[ripe obsidian]

Carapace is also good for the surge build

[maiden oracle]

I’m assuming that’s nexus surge

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah

[maiden oracle]

Got it

Dump stat warp res?

[ripe obsidian]

Blast Radius

[fiery stratus]

@strong gulch strike team 20

[strong gulch]

you got it

[radiant ice]

[indigo plank]

So there I am, gazing as one does

Havent played psyker in a hot minute

Sitting at 100% peril as warp unbound wraps up

Brain shuts off and I stroke my shit

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1rage-tyler1-loltyler1-league-of-legends-lol-gif-17905699

[indigo plank]

I just saw the big red numbers and my thumb was like

https://tenor.com/view/long-thumb-thumbs-up-gif-25948245

[radiant ice]

I have posted this so many times

I love it

[vocal fulcrum]

you can start casting at 99.9 for all that matters

if you don't have 100 as you start you don't blow up

[strong gulch]

noice

[dusk void]

Hell yeah. Just played with some martyrdom psykers. Was a great run indeed

[lean mural]

siblings.

fgs + super shotty + scriers + bb + dd.

unfathomably based or very silly?

[ripe obsidian]

Silly. Do it.

Oops

Why did that reply to a comment?

[ripe obsidian]

Poxburster Psyker build.

[muted grove]

what exactly is a maelstrom mission? how is it any different

[verbal thistle]

they have extra conditions

[dusk void]

Very different. You have to play different builds/classes depending on the maelstrom

[verbal thistle]

this one has Monstrous specialists

[indigo plank]

Permission to explode, sah

[dusk void]

One tap monsters with the thunderhammer

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't mean to reply to your comment. I'm not sure why Discord did this. D:

[hearty wolf]

Just don't have a terrible build and you'll be fine

[verbal thistle]

Builds dont matter

It's skill

[muted grove]

How do I stop dying as a psyker? I know it’s movement but what do

[indigo plank]

What's usually the thing that kills you?

[nocturne dust]

Lag

😔

[nocturne dust]

Use kinetic deflection and dodges

and sliding

[indigo plank]

Is it big bastards like the crushers and maulers, gunners and reapers, chip damage from pox, getting grabbed by muties/dogs, or blowing yourself up?

[muted grove]

Mainly ranged damage

[indigo plank]

What kinda weapons you rocking?

[lean mural]

i did a couple auric heresy and it's extremely not bad but idk if i'm getting a the most out of it

particularly things like tranquility through slaughter: if that procs on every shot with the shotty as opposed to every pellet then it's not nearly as good/funny as stacking crits with a recon las

[muted grove]

Purg/dueling sword

[nocturne dust]

stick near cover, slide

[indigo plank]

Do you have assail?

[muted grove]

Sliding feels awful on controller , is there an adjustment people usually make for movement?

[nocturne dust]

You don't really need assail with purg

[muted grove]

Nope I’m kind of brain pop and purg

[nocturne dust]

If they're having issues, it's not the lack of assail

[indigo plank]

Yeah, just figuring if they have it they can toss them while they slide to cover

[long wharf]

siblings, what's the current meta purge staff setup?

[ripe obsidian]

FGS and super shotgun fill kinda similar niches. There's a good amount of overlap

[indigo plank]

Well you've got your bases covered so that's solid

[nocturne dust]

I have rebound my slide/dodge keys, buuuuutt also I'm mouse and keyboard

[nocturne dust]

For Havoc or Auric?

[long wharf]

yes?

[indigo plank]

I'd try to find a more comfortable slide button on controller

[nocturne dust]

They're not the same

[indigo plank]

It's a pretty important part of movement

[lean mural]

hence why i have the sword spec'd for unyielding/carapace/unstable/precog

[maiden oracle]

what is a purge staff

[long wharf]

so both

[muted grove]

I used assail before but didn’t enjoy the play style, it felt like a crutch

[ripe obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1316462732999921735/elmopsyker.gif

[indigo plank]

Maybe bind crouch to (B/Circle)

[maiden oracle]

i still dont get it

[ripe obsidian]

Inferno

[lean mural]

flame staff used to be called purgatus and it purges heretics good

[maiden oracle]

ah

[nocturne dust]

Havoc

[indigo plank]

Once you get to Damnation, the assail goes from ripping through everything to being used mostly to help clean up gunner trash. It's not too bad, but it does build bad habits if used like the former

It's good fun to play around with if you get tired of brain burst

[main wyvern]

Are psykers who run dueling sword over force swords real psykers

[nocturne dust]

Auric

[ripe obsidian]

Assail weave is really helpful for clearing hordes. Toss a few out and go wild

[maiden oracle]

what do you kill with brain burst

was mostly using it for special sniping

[long wharf]

okay, but what about the staff itself?

[ripe obsidian]

The only difference between yours and mine is that you have KF instead of Warp Battery. I was debating today of swapping to KF.

[maiden oracle]

no idea how well it did against mutants and crushers and the like i just usually stabbed them

[nocturne dust]

Flak, unyield, blaze away, nexus, dump warp res

on both

[muted grove]

Specials mainly thag end up out of range post vent

[maiden oracle]

got it

[long wharf]

how does blaze away work?

[nocturne dust]

Well

[long wharf]

mechanically

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[ripe obsidian]

Keep stacks up, do loads more damage

[long wharf]

is it treating your peril as the magazine?

[nocturne dust]

It gives 1 stack per lmb or stacks really rapidly on rmb

It ignores peril

[ripe obsidian]

Continuous fire is just attacking within like 3 seconds of your last attack

[nocturne dust]

If you rapid-fire rmbs you can maintain it

Although someone did testing and found the sweet spot was 60% charge... for some reason

(against single targets)

[long wharf]

alright, thanks

[ripe obsidian]

60% w/ flurry

Keeps Blaze Away up

[main wyvern]

I wish they would add beamstaff so my 40k sienna build can be complete

[nocturne dust]

wasn't MeowBeep's test without flurry?

[ripe obsidian]

It was with

[nocturne dust]

Wait, did they use flurry?

wtf

[ripe obsidian]

60% loses Blaze Away without flurry

[nocturne dust]

That explains a lot

They were also testing on Plogryns on malice for some reason

[ripe obsidian]

I cannot speak to that

[strong gulch]

@split lance

[split lance]

I don’t get it

[strong gulch]

Because we are very good at ZEALOT.

[split lance]

Oooh

Sorry

I’m so tired lol

I’m at the gym

No brain

[ripe obsidian]

20s Havoc is a silly place. I did more melee damage than my teammates did total damage. I did drop when I facetanked like six shotgunners, but otherwise, I was a very silly blender.

[inland ice]

anyone know if the psyker voice actor is on cameo or sm

i need an audio of him saying "I'm about to buss... bussing"

[delicate dove]

male savant?

[strong gulch]

Just played some zealot and my arm hurts now.

I played them badly. Just m1 spam.

Mostly m1 spam.

[nocturne dust]

KeepSwinging

[dense flume]

Imagining the other guy saying that is pretty amusing, honestly lol. In either style

[dusk void]

Is it true that the purgatus staff is meta in havoc missions? I tend to have a hard time using that staff and I'm much better off with the trauma staff becuase I know how to use the trauma staff

[prime elk]

trauma and purg are both good

[lone ravine]

Purgatus is meta because infinite cleave and DoTs bypassing the ranged dmg reduction of pus hardened

Also because it isn’t too affected by the vent speed reduction of high havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds about right. Which weapon?

[dusk void]

Warp nexus/Blaze away are the blessings, right?

[ripe obsidian]

Surge is also good as secondary psyker. Voidstrike seems to be the only one that's eh on high havoc.

[ripe obsidian]

Korrekt.

[strong gulch]

U right. Actual good use case.

[strong gulch]

Combat axe.

[dusk void]

I'm not sure if I feel comfortable with the Purgatus staff becuase I haven't used it a lot in my auric missions/auric maelstroms

[strong gulch]

I also did heavies while invisible and missed.

[nocturne dust]

Trauma and Purgatus are both meta staves in Havoc.

[ripe obsidian]

You did it properly.

[nocturne dust]

The only weapon that hurts my fingers on Zealit is the dueling sword

All those heavies

But I also have KeepSwinging

[zinc phoenix]

High level pug groups for auric seem rare as hens teeth

[nocturne dust]

I mean, everyone is running Havocs

[zinc phoenix]

And the ones I do find are invariably pretty bad

A lot of people are running havoc but I think most are in the 20s

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, but how many of those 20 peeps were Auric? You can unlock Havoc with any maelstrom iirc

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-molly-chicken-run-dawn-of-the-nugget-open-mouth-wow-gif-5113703177962374515

[strong gulch]

@clear heath Go get top damage on aruic dam with this build. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d9e5829-597c-440b-9f52-48451863d61f/no-keystone-fire-sword-its-bad-but-play-it-anyways

[maiden oracle]

would assail or the ball staff be faster for killing specials

[ripe obsidian]

Mostly 20-32ish, it seems.

[ripe obsidian]

Ball staff if you hit. I am bad at aiming and often miss.

[maiden oracle]

alright

[zinc phoenix]

I only see a couple low 30s

I could host a 40 but I don’t really want to play a 40 😞

Wish they’d let us pick the level we want to host at

So long as we’re at or below it

[ripe obsidian]

Assail is good for quickly clearing chaff. Throw out 2 or 3 and watch heads pop. With Perfect Aim, assail can give guaranteed Surge procs

[ripe obsidian]

That would make sense, though.

[strong gulch]

@ripe obsidian You do melee right? You play it too.

[zinc phoenix]

Also weird experience today where a group let me join, then decided my zealot who was rocking all the fancy skill indicators was simply not good enough so they all left and reformed. None of them had higher clear level than low 30s 😞

Let me playyyy

[radiant ice]

You just radiate scrub energy

It’s obvious

[strong gulch]

"Sorry. You're over qualified for the job."

[zinc phoenix]

I even play a fairly meta build - admittedly with relic sword not ds - like come onnn 😂

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[ripe obsidian]

I do meleeker in 20s Havoc and Auric. I use Purg and either Trauma build for srs bsns 30+ Havoc

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve decided I don’t care anymore and I’ll run what I want because this is a game not a job

[ripe obsidian]

Do it. Break free of your shackles.

[nocturne dust]

What are you talking about?

This is a job.

A job you don't get paid for.

[zinc phoenix]

Careful, I have a fuckin great sword and a burning desire to stab

[nocturne dust]

Cool, now make the stab burn

Do it Fatshark

Give me good fire sword

[zinc phoenix]

Me IRL https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/e9/5e97e56a-eec1-11ee-b3fa-e301d16e9ab4/660858d4e1217.image.png?resize=1200%2C697

This is genuinely hilarious so I’m sharing the article too https://tucson.com/news/local/crime-courts/tucson-motel-sword-deputy-shooting/article_73a8a4f4-eea7-11ee-a0eb-8b74ec173e5a.html

[nocturne dust]

I bet Zealot or Vet will get a good fire sword before we will

[zinc phoenix]

Oh shit he was killed, that’s less funny

Probably they should have led with that in the actual article e

Anyway I’m gonna goof around on ogryn for a bit and see how it feels in havoc as high level as people will let me go

[ripe obsidian]

"The deputies started life-saving measures immediately after the shooting"

The best life-saving measure is not shooting someone.

[zinc phoenix]

Well the alternative was getting stabbed with a katana

That seems bad

[nocturne dust]

The alternative is a stun gun/taser

or, you know, some of that riot gear they always pull out for protests

[zinc phoenix]

They don’t carry that in patrol cars from what I understand

As far as the taser, those things have a surprisingly high rate of heart attack on the elderly and overweight

They’re better than getting shot but not good

[nocturne dust]

They don't, but it's not like they're an immediate threat if you stay away from sword radius

[lofty marsh]

I LOVE FGS

[zinc phoenix]

Idk about you but I haven’t memorized the sword radius of a random katana held by a random large dude in a parking lot 😂 esp when he’s chargin

[nocturne dust]

Well, my point is that they probably should've stayed further away if nobody was in immediate danger until they had the proper tools to handle the situation without murder.

[delicate dove]

I need to know who is this man. His history of mental illness, or drugs, if he was just on reddit too long

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah he’s clearly not right in the head, nobody goes from “I’m playin with my sword in public” to “I’m gonna kill that cop with my sword” without being a good bit off

Idk if it’s drugs or something else but that is not the normal reaction

[nocturne dust]

I would imagine drugs are related

[zinc phoenix]

Idk that the cops can just chill in that scenario

[nocturne dust]

altho

“I’m trying to achieve greatness on the katana, is that illegal in the United States?” Lewis can be heard asking the deputies.

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah that line fuckin killed me 😂

[nocturne dust]

They definitely can stay at a distance and monitor him imo.

[zinc phoenix]

What if someone else comes out of an apartment and the addled man with a sword decides he should practice cutting them up?

[delicate dove]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-challenging-me-scooby-doo-shaggy-matthew-lillard-gif-17770189

40 year old mom walking to her motel room in the middle of the night

[zinc phoenix]

They were called in so the neighbors clearly were freakin out

[nocturne dust]

Well, then you shoot him. But that wasn't happening.

[zinc phoenix]

Also I doubt the cops thought the situation was going that way because who decides being told to put your sword away requires killing the person who told you that?

[nocturne dust]

Sure, which is why American cops should receive more training in deescalation and nonlethal force.

[zinc phoenix]

I mean maybe but I’m not sure there’s a good way to deescalate a situation where a wild man with a sword decides he’s gonna go full anime on your ass

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the taser is deescalation in a way.

[zinc phoenix]

Taser doesn’t stop a big enough and drug screwed enough person

[analog agate]

Deadvoid, where are you again? For some reason I was thinking Australia?

[zinc phoenix]

It’d stop you and me for sure

[delicate dove]

His fat would act as an insulating barrier. kek

https://tenor.com/view/kingelmer-elmer-king-gif-24253697

[zinc phoenix]

But like… if you’re a 250lbs+ male and on something you can actually keep going a good bit.

• taser requires being pretty darn close

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't use it first

Also, tasers can be calibrated.

[zinc phoenix]

But again sword radius and short taser range

[nocturne dust]

US.

[zinc phoenix]

Also everyone is so heavily armed here

[nocturne dust]

The distance they were at was taser range.

[delicate dove]

Honestly in this case I leave it to the cops discretion if they want to risk their own lives for this man by using a taser.

[analog agate]

I was thinking Irosk. That was it

[nocturne dust]

It's not a risk tho

One cop has a gun, the other has a taser

Taze him. If he doesn't stop, shoot him.

[delicate dove]

They aren't ready with coordination like that, lmao

"you taze, I shoot"

[nocturne dust]

They should be tho

[zinc phoenix]

For a public nuisance complaint?

[nocturne dust]

Like, it's not hard to have a conversation going "I'll be nonlethal, you be lethal" before confronting the deranged sword-wielder

[delicate dove]

If the guy gets in range of mr failed tazer tazer cop could get shot or chopped.

[zinc phoenix]

• it all happens super fast at short range

[nocturne dust]

I agree it happens super fast

I don't think your logic is enough for the first answer being bullets

[ripe obsidian]

US cops need more training. This is inarguable. It would be easier to leave it to a cop's discretion if they had proper training and regular evaluations.

[zinc phoenix]

US cops are already pretty heavily trained. We just need way the heck more of them. Massively underpoliced compared to most of the rest of the world

• if you give the cops more money they just spend it on writing more traffic tickets because it’s easy, safe and revenue generating

[delicate dove]

I agree, but also people have to remember there's a lot of violent mishandled schizos in the US, making it unfair to compare to a place where the mentally ill aren't roaming the streets as much

[ripe obsidian]

On average, US officers spend around 21 weeks training before they are qualified to go on patrol.

That is far less than in most other developed countries, according to a report by the Institute for Criminal Justice Training Reform (ICJTR).

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56834733

[nocturne dust]

[delicate dove]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

I think that's completely unfair, other places have crazies too.

[zinc phoenix]

I mean if you required US cops to get 5k hours of training we’d have no cops

They’re already hard to hire

[ripe obsidian]

Why do other countries have cops, then?

What is so different?

[zinc phoenix]

Because they don’t have as good alternative job opportunities

[ripe obsidian]

Uh.

That's a take.

[nocturne dust]

I'd rather few but solid over many but stupid

[wicked hornet]

doesn't Finland have like 5 million people. USA is like 375 million

[zinc phoenix]

Being a cop in the US is more dangerous than most other countries

Being a not cop in the US is much better paid than most other countries

[nocturne dust]

That latter point is

[ripe obsidian]

Sounds like an issue with the US if the average person is that much more dangerous.

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️ it’s not hard to look up our GDP per capita in PPP and see that we’re ranked up there with the petro states and banking havens while most other big countries are a good bit lower

[nocturne dust]

GDP is not nearly the same

as salary or wage

[ripe obsidian]

We should probably stop discussing this topic, though.

[nocturne dust]

True

[zinc phoenix]

Well the fact that we have like half as many cops per person or less as other countries is a big deal in making it more dangerous

[nocturne dust]

This is Psyker chat

🗿

[delicate dove]

THIS IS COP ETHIC CHAT NOW

[zinc phoenix]

If psyker chat isn’t about discussing crazy shit what is it for

[delicate dove]

truly

https://tenor.com/view/schizo-cat-the-voices-gif-25415230

[zinc phoenix]

We’re playing demented people with strong opinions on their empire, clearly we should emulate them

[nocturne dust]

Time to Cicatrix maledictum the US

[split lance]

@strong gulch @nocturne dust @lethal lagoon

are we ready

for

monster mas

[nocturne dust]

sure

[split lance]

mash

weekend

we only have today to get 40

[nocturne dust]

But why?

[ripe obsidian]

If you don't do it today, you go back to 1 and have to start over.

[zinc phoenix]

I’m kinda surprised you guys haven’t got there yet what with being in a regular group

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/action/pac-man-becomes-an-apex-predator-on-a-world-shattered-by-intergalactic-warfare-in-this-very-strange-new-metroidvania-coming-in-2025/

[nocturne dust]

We have very low stamina

[split lance]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

Play like a couple matches per day at most

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-im-too-weak-weak-too-weak-i-am-too-weak-gif-27278272

[split lance]

fr

i go outside

usually

im in 69

waiting

plotting

for the other 2

[wind spruce]

what have I done

[nocturne dust]

@wind spruce I tried perfectionism. It's.... weird. I still don't like it, but you can probably make it work and have it be more beneficial with enough legwork.

[strong gulch]

Fork I missed it.

[wind spruce]

ill probably only be able to tolerate one game

[strong gulch]

Oh no. Sorry fren.

[nocturne dust]

(It's because of how we play)

[ripe obsidian]

How do you play?

[nocturne dust]

We out-crack-addict zealots

[strong gulch]

[ripe obsidian]

I see.

I thought I was outpacing you the other night.

[delicate dove]

One game of Havoc feels like 3 games of Auric

[ripe obsidian]

One game of Auric is extra fun after Havoc, though.

[ripe obsidian]

I'll do this tomorrow after D&D.

[delicate dove]

Soulblaze build ✅

Soulblaze melee build 😱 💯💯💦🍆

[ripe obsidian]

Can I at least dump warp resistance instead of mobility and take +crit instead of +maniac?

[wind spruce]

No that would be too stronk

[strong gulch]

Lol the maniac is a misclick. Yeah flak + crit chance. You can dump WR.

[ripe obsidian]

Got it. I'll see if I have an Illisi I can screw with. I'll roll a new one if not.

[strong gulch]

Fixed.

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dba7173-f64c-4b4f-9213-94268e99e856/no-keystone-fire-sword-now-with-crit-chance-its-bad-but-play-it-anyways

[north orchid]

my fellow intelectuals which one bio lodestone or overpowering souls?

[strong gulch]

Bio increases your chances of randomly getting an EP stack and overpowering grantees an EP stack on elite kill.

[north orchid]

considering im playing a horde game probably bio

[strong gulch]

You'd be suprised. Overpowering is the standard choice.

However, that is with auric dams in mind.

If you need a list of elites, here. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/enemies?type=ELITE

[north orchid]

oh dw im aware what elites are

i have a list of anything that annoys me

and menials

[wind spruce]

@strong gulch want to jump in?

[strong gulch]

Yeah

[nocturne dust]

lol, we disbanded

[wind spruce]

nvm @lethal lagoon bailed

[primal plume]

Hold staff with right hand
Casting with left
Pose somehow fucked it up
ONE JOB

[lethal lagoon]

[strong gulch]

kk

[nocturne dust]

Don't worry, we failed miserably without you

[strong gulch]

Y'all do it tho? You make to 40 and get tren survivor??

NOOO

[nocturne dust]

Our last run we came close to true survivor

but then we wiped on that one part with the train rails that make uneven terrain

I couldn't hit the chaos spawn with my thammer because it kept running away from me 😭

[strong gulch]

When something outruns you on zealot... that feels so bad.

[nocturne dust]

The uneven terrain made it so much worse. I hate that stupid section.

[ripe obsidian]

Is that after you drop or right after you come down the stairs?

[nocturne dust]

after you drop from that weird ledge area with the skull jumping puzzle

[ripe obsidian]

Gotcha, thought so.

Yeah, that place has killed probably 10 Havoc missions for me.

It's awful for Trauma, too. The terrain and holes in floors make it impossible to aim

[hidden coral]

When you're chasing the monster and you get the phantom hit with a thunder hammer but it didnt really count

😭

[nocturne dust]

thammer should have more reach it feels like

[split lance]

hi

[strong gulch]

👋

[plucky flax]

I am up for tren survivor.

Gotta test this hotel's wifi first tho

[strong gulch]

If you wanna try a thing and you need a body, I can help.

[hidden coral]

Am a random but am also happy to help go for Survivor 🐀

[plucky flax]

Uh oh I'm the only psyker and I am not bringing bubble.

[strong gulch]

Just matrix it.

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-mochimon-kawaii-cute-gif-12056310807631487717

Or hide lmao

[split lance]

LETS FUCKEN RUN IT

@lethal lagoon get the fuck in here now

Next map is smelter complex

[lethal lagoon]

There's no chance you are surviving with agentchaos

but I can

[split lance]

I will prevail

I will

[strong gulch]

rude but maybe true

[lethal lagoon]

pre, as in premature peril explosion

yes

[split lance]

I was tryna mix survive and tren into one word and it came out bad

I’ll be perfectly fine

[lethal lagoon]

Stop trying to mix with teens

[split lance]

Idk what ur on about

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

I’m drinking milk rn

It’s yummy

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

Did I leave the vc?

I got put in timeout didn’t I

I’m just eating

😡

[split lance]

Yall some lactose intolerant FOOLS

Your bones are WEAK

YOU ARE FRAIL

[lethal lagoon]

Milk has been proven to make bones weaker over time, not stronger.

[split lance]

THE EMPEROR DOES NOT SHINE HIS LIGHT UPON YOU

[split lance]

PROOF??

[strong gulch]

I do have a weak constitution.

[split lance]

I’ve never broke a bone

Even when I got hit with a baseball bat. Straight to the ribs

My bones

Didn’t even feel the disrespect

[split lance]

What

[lethal lagoon]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19321571/

Here's one for bone fractures

[split lance]

I see the word vegetarian. That’s the detrimental part

Not the milk

Also

[lethal lagoon]

No, no, the study isn't about vegertirans.

It's looking at milk as a diet option.

[split lance]

Mothers Protein intake has a direct correlation to facial bone structure

[lethal lagoon]

Are you saying your mother is like a cow?

[split lance]

Baby’s facial bone structure

[split lance]

No. She ain’t no protein

I lack a jaw line

That’s why I have a beard instead

[lethal lagoon]

I think that's just the fat

Then again I still have one.

[split lance]

Ah you see. I’ve been shredded

Still no jaw

[lethal lagoon]

That's rough

at least you can grow a beard

[strong gulch]

Definition 2 a

"the physical makeup of the individual especially with respect to the health, strength, and appearance of the body
a hearty constitution"
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/constitution

[split lance]

I actually hurt me so bad

[lethal lagoon]

That's like the best part of losing weight

so I'd imagine it did

[split lance]

Bro

[lethal lagoon]

Also, why did you @ me when neither you or agent are actually playing?

[split lance]

I had abs. Diced to the fucking nines. No jaw line

[split lance]

@plucky flax

Im eating lol

But I’m almost done

Grabbing another glass of milk

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, I'm half-asleep, I doubt I can wait

Especially not for a milk trip

You might never come back from that

[strong gulch]

Agent is doing a mission. IDK how long it will take.

[split lance]

Lil bro beat hurry up

[strong gulch]

Atlas has to be the one to stay in VC because he's the one wno never get's kicked for some reason. So no bed.

[twilit beacon]

With how disrupt destiny works now, is it viable to run perfectionism over lingering influence?

[strong gulch]

Try it for yourself. Some say yes and others say no. What ppl are saying is it's not sustainable in high havoc with perfectionism.

Some are also trying out dropping cruel fortune and stropping at the lingering node.

[maiden oracle]

What staff do y’all find fun to use

Nothings really calling out to me ngl I’m just using fgs and assail

[split lance]

did u leave pookie

[lethal lagoon]

replace me

[split lance]

i love you

[strong gulch]

@split lance If you need another, I can join.

[wind spruce]

dude just got knocked skywards by a pogryn charge and got netted before he hit the ground

based trapper aim

[strong gulch]

Teamwork makes the dreamwork?

[dusk void]

This is nonsense. I still happen to suck in Havoc missions

[split lance]

ive just been sitting here

[strong gulch]

Defending ur territory? 🫡

[split lance]

yes

[nocturne dust]

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19321565/

That's a response to this and both are outdated, from 2009

[lethal lagoon]

I literally just picked a random thingy

[nocturne dust]

Pick better random thingies

[lethal lagoon]

There's plenty of it, and more importantly, no evidence to suggest milk is beneficial.

[nocturne dust]

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

Or I'll nerd on your source and say your source is bad

[lethal lagoon]

That's why i never bother with sources.

Every source is flawed, that's the nature of science.

[nocturne dust]

No source? No agree.

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-ferret-magic-hat-mustelid-gif-11239451876823413862

[lethal lagoon]

If you wanna drink cum-like water and make your bones weaker, I have no issues with that.

[upper galleon]

HUH

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

have u ever broken a bone

[lethal lagoon]

no

[split lance]

liar

[shrewd gust]

is there any value at keeping this at 400 due to the warp resist being so low or should i just max it to 500 for the damage

https://i.imgur.com/uZXb8CT.png

[nocturne dust]

From girls

[lethal lagoon]

Most people have never broken a bone, no?

[plucky flax]

Damn clutching in havoc against a bunch of dreg gunners without bubble is too hard (i lost)

[split lance]

join us

agent

[plucky flax]

Can do.

If you play NA west.

My ping might be okay.

[split lance]

yes

[plucky flax]

From SEA

[split lance]

im na west

[plucky flax]

I have no mic tho

And portable 1 channel speaker

[nocturne dust]

I have no mic and I must scream

[strong gulch]

no mic screaming is the way

[split lance]

so whos joining

[strong gulch]

me

[nocturne dust]

I can if you give me 5 minutes

[split lance]

are u on

ok

[plucky flax]

I am choir boi

[nocturne dust]

the toilet currently

[strong gulch]

about to be

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

Brb grabbing some snacks then

[split lance]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[nocturne dust]

we could run dual choir

[strong gulch]

only books

[plucky flax]

[split lance]

what happened, go psyker

[plucky flax]

We have 2 already?

[strong gulch]

Agent wants story book. Read stories to the heretics.

[split lance]

waiting on void

[plucky flax]

I mean 2 psykers.

So I am happy to chant.

[split lance]

ill go zealot instead

smh smh

[nocturne dust]

I can be zealot or psyker, doesn't matter to me

[plucky flax]

Why?

I thought you want to psyker tren

[split lance]

my zealot sucks

lol

[plucky flax]

Yeah then go psyker.

I do zealot.

[split lance]

havent tried it in havoc tho

[plucky flax]

We do 38 39 40 ez.

[clear heath]

i dragged my friends to around havoc 30 last week

been watching them try to play without me to get their weekly havoc progress

kinda funny watching them derank

maybe boosting them was a mistake

[strong gulch]

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

Agent boosting us.

[nocturne dust]

Agent having nearly double the damage I do on zealot

I told you guys I suck at zealot

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

My favorite part is Tren doing the least boss damage and killing 2 of em.

[split lance]

i threw that whole game

[strong gulch]

I hope they were KF procs cuz those are the best.

[split lance]

https://tenor.com/view/disney-moana-youre-welcome-maui-dance-gif-15810606

[nocturne dust]

Although yeah, that was an egregious game

[plucky flax]

I'm just choir boi.

[nocturne dust]

I've been out-choired

[plucky flax]

I don't like riposte I am not getting crit chance when monster not targetting me.

Back to shred.

[strong gulch]

Yeah. That's my problems with on dodge blessings. I supposed it matters more when you are trying to kill the boss.

[primal plume]

I dont really care for the insane ranged resist green enemies have in havoc

[nocturne dust]

That's how support bot rolls

[strong gulch]

Build name too big.

[nocturne dust]

Trendy Havoc Bubble

[strong gulch]

SMART

fixed

[wind spruce]

Just call it "Snoozefest"

[tacit stump]

T-R-Havoc-Bubble

[split lance]

@nocturne dust

[plucky flax]

Long hard map.

But no pus so surge is going to be really strong.

[strong gulch]

It was fun tho.

[nocturne dust]

That's the one where you break the big green globe stuff at the end, right?

[plucky flax]

I mean that 40 map is a long one.

[split lance]

if ur on in like 8ish hours

[strong gulch]

Hope the rest of your day is good.

[plucky flax]

In 8 hours it's midnight for me.

I'll be

Beside my ping is sus.

[nocturne dust]

I mean you died the least of us today

[split lance]

ah all good

[strong gulch]

True lol

[split lance]

i actually have no idea how i died so much

it was

obscene

i die a lot

but even for me that was excessive

[plucky flax]

A lot of blowing up.

UnsanctionedHarold.

[strong gulch]

It happens. You should of seen my regular damnation runs earlier today. I just kept falling over.

[split lance]

im not even joking

[strong gulch]

But also you're tired.

[split lance]

ive felt like a worse player ever since i swapped my name

like

[strong gulch]

Being tired always fecks me up in this game.

[plucky flax]

[split lance]

yeah, games just feel worse

ive actually been thinking of changing it back

for nothign else other than the placeno

[nocturne dust]

I'm never tired when gaming I save that for useless stuff like driving

[split lance]

placebo

[nocturne dust]

(this is a joke, I don't drive tired)

[split lance]

fuck it

im going back to Unsantionedharold

[split lance]

i do

i drive home

[nocturne dust]

Also @split lance I did record

[split lance]

and remember nonoe of the drve

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-20076210

[split lance]

loooool

if u upload it its fine

i just thought itd be fnny

ir ecorded

[nocturne dust]

I mean all my videos are unlisted anyway

[split lance]

uhhhh

[strong gulch]

I don't think I should name myself UnsanctionedBean. That might get me reported.

[split lance]

oh are they?

[nocturne dust]

Yeah I don't really have a youtube or anything, I just keep them for myself really

[strong gulch]

Yay. Savor our game crimes.

[split lance]

tbf my youtube is a mess

if you look at my yt posts

huge mes s

[nocturne dust]

I only started recording relatively recently though, cuz I set it up with steam

[strong gulch]

Mine is just deck flip thoughts, a couple makeup tutorials, and being confused about things.

[nocturne dust]

In fact I think it was like 3 days ago or so Before that I didn't really record entire matches

[strong gulch]

I should look into recording my gameplay for when I want to get better at this game.

[split lance]

were so back

so back i sent 2 ss somehow

[nocturne dust]

I should make a montage of all of Tren's deaths

But that's work and I'm lazy

[strong gulch]

Beans death

[plucky flax]

2 hours tren survivor compilation.

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1316913692650115152/Beans_Fly.gif

[split lance]

characters are shredded wtf

[strong gulch]

tren death

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1316418356504694925/9deqzn.gif

[split lance]

is that actually me

i dont believe it

[strong gulch]

yes

I took it from your video

[split lance]

idk how i die so much

like actually

[nocturne dust]

itty bitty gif

[split lance]

LMAO

[nocturne dust]

easily

[split lance]

i have the video

[nocturne dust]

very, very easily

[split lance]

saved

@strong gulch

ima pirate odobe premiere

so i can have better quality stuff

bc why does the res look like 480p if im on 1440p

[nocturne dust]

Protip: if you're gonna do a crime, don't post it on the internet

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-pig-police-police-gif-17885777

[split lance]

ima be real

im not tech savvy enough

to even know where to go to pirate it

[strong gulch]

That's the one.

"community exchange"

"I got it from the library."

[round gull]

Hi guys,which Keystone do you recommend for Assail?

[nocturne dust]

disrupt destiny

if you want max assailing though, the middle, Empowered Psionics. But that's not really all that effective investing that hard into assail.

[round gull]

ohh oki

Thanks

And which ability?

I thought about Sciers

[nocturne dust]

scrier's. Assail generally pairs with Gunker

[upper sun]

you mean ult?

yeah

[nocturne dust]

Assailker is Gunker is Meleeker

[upper sun]

just dont blow up

[nocturne dust]

or do

[round gull]

I don't control so much Assail,so I will probably do so

[strong gulch]

Warp Unbound for 100% peril play. (can't still blow up because of bug tho)

[round gull]

I want to do a Greatsword Assail build

I think it's not a bad combination

[nocturne dust]

That's what I've been running on a meleeker build I call 'Highlander'

biggest issue is mobility tho

[round gull]

oh

[nocturne dust]

It's not a huge issue and you can work around it, but it does suck

[round gull]

well it can not be perfect

[nocturne dust]

Should be

[split lance]

@strong gulch

[round gull]

Man I give up with Assail

I don't understand why I struggle that much

[radiant frigate]

you can pack a laspistol for the zoomies

[radiant frigate]

what's the issue

[maiden oracle]

Assail damage drops off at damnation right

Does it still drop gunners and ragers or am I better off just stabbing them

[wind spruce]

Do both

[maiden oracle]

Yea I have been

I think my current biggest issue is getting lit up by gunners and the recoil messing with my camera

Makes me miss twbs

Is recoil the correct word for that

[wind spruce]

Close enough

[strong gulch]

Ye?

[radiant frigate]

is the specific term aimpunch?

or am i imagining things

[maiden oracle]

Idk

It’s just when your toughness breaks and every hit slightly shifts your view

[marble crater]

Stagger, flinch

[wind spruce]

If your toughness is broken forget aiming and just start dodge-sliding for your life

[hidden coral]

so close to true survivor 😭 That last drop out of the train on chasm logistratum is cruel

[late sapphire]

It's ok in terms of strength for damnation

The only reason it 'drops off' is because it clears everything below damnation without much thought

[vernal temple]

Just sent 3 requests to havoc 35+ teams. All got rejected. Automatically said "fuck off" out loud

bunch of elitist wankers who don't seem to accept anyone who isn't at least clearance level 38

[stuck sinew]

I'm at level 35 and won't even get accepted into 36s

Immediate rejects

[vernal temple]

lmao

[stuck sinew]

And then if I host I get loner stealth zealots

[vernal temple]

party finder brings out the worst from within people it seems

[near wyvern]

For me it helped to have character level 900+ but may not be an option 😅

[near wyvern]

What class you were on and what class they already had?

[hidden coral]

I GOT IT \o/ Shoutout to my cat clawing my knees near the end. Can now chill and grind out the rest of the penances in easier havocs 😌

[stuck sinew]

Psyker, one zealot

[near wyvern]

Weird. Psykers should be quite wanted because of bubble.

[stuck sinew]

And the billions of damage

[near wyvern]

Like 2 paykers is really great as well cause one goes bubble other goes EP smite with Creeping Flames and all you need at that point is just some monstrosity damage and it's easy saling

Did my True Survivor with 2 psyker 1 zealot 1 vet

[stuck sinew]

Hell I usually have the best health/last alive too

I've been running blaze trauma it's so safe

[near wyvern]

It's a bit dumb to compare those values, Paykers are squishy and should play backline on havoc so naturally you should have least damage taken

If a team mate goes down and they were not overextended you could have probably saved them, so don't look at just your own stats in a vacuum

[stuck sinew]

I do my best to blast trauma around people who look like they're about to get clapped

Or at least keep their body clear

KD makes revives a bit easier too

[vernal temple]

well I'm a 300+ character, tho I guess because my havoc is only 31...

I think it was tren who said "if you can survive 31, you can survive 40"

not sure how true of a statement that is

[wind spruce]

They said best health. It's a perfectly reasonable metric, regardless. People are clever enough to take context into account while still comparing those values

The concept of a backline in a game that spawns enemies back and front is more dumb

[nocturne dust]

but I want to zoomie with stabby

https://tenor.com/view/sword-fight-fencing-run-go-run-go-away-gif-13444133

[nocturne dust]

35*

there is no difference between 35 and 40 iirc

[hidden coral]

Someone on the internet said there's a slight increase in spawns

And I'd trust random people on discord with my life

[nocturne dust]

Oh, well that's a very valid source, I would know, I'm someone on the internet

Havoc spawns so much at 35 to 40 I would never notice if they upped it even more unless it was a stupid amount like

[lament sapphire]

What's the verdict on this big sword

[nocturne dust]

good

[lament sapphire]

Better than little swords?

[nocturne dust]

cool

neat

[nocturne dust]

Mostly

Less defense and mobility

Different niches

FGS is for dablage, force swords are for defense

[hidden coral]

I didn't understand why Flamer was part of meta loadouts in high havoc, until I started doing them and noticed how frequent it was to have 30 maulers all approaching from inside each other in a big metal clump

Like, ah, yeah, I guess my bolt pistol won't do much there

[lament sapphire]

I'm old. I read that as Firey Great Sword from guild wars.

[nocturne dust]

We will never get a good fire sword build

😔

[lament sapphire]

Dueling sword vs big sword?

Big sword >?

[hidden coral]

It would be sick if they added one mark of either type of sword that just did soulblaze latently with its special

[nocturne dust]

Dueling Sword is OP

[nocturne dust]

blazing spirit should just apply soulblaze on hit, ngl

[hidden coral]

From what I understand, the FGS is seen as great in a balanced way, whereas the dueling sword is just OP yeah

[lament sapphire]

Am I going to get stuck behind crushers and maulers with this big thing?

[nocturne dust]

Dueling Sword is better and eats single targets and has higher mobility and defense

[lament sapphire]

That's fair

[nocturne dust]

FGS' only benefits are reach and horde clear

[lament sapphire]

Hmmmmm

[hidden coral]

And endorphins from the kill feed with the special. But that really is kind of a gimmick, especially in havoc

[nocturne dust]

but yes, FGS is more balanced than dueling sword (mostly because it's probably not going to be given to zealots or vets )

[trim garnet]

i agree i think it should just apply half the stacks on non-crits

[hidden coral]

I adore my scrier's greatsword+vraks autogun build for auric stuff though. Even with that big thing you really zoom around and can oneshot a ton

[trim garnet]

would follow the purgatus logic

[zinc phoenix]

I’m havoc 40, true survivor and MGS tag on and some parties still don’t accept me 😂 I don’t think it’s always elitism, I think it’s just people being people

[nocturne dust]

Oh hey that's my FGS build too

[trim garnet]

so called heavy big sword when i show it mettle+warp speed+disrupt

[lament sapphire]

Some people prefer a specific set of members for havoc

[nocturne dust]

I mean, they probably just accept other people and run out of spots 🤷‍♂️

[lament sapphire]

I am still on 16. Haven't been on in a few days

[zinc phoenix]

I still curse their name and wish failure upon them

As you do

[lament sapphire]

Probably rusty as fuck

[nocturne dust]

Not enough

[hidden coral]

Also depending on region you do just get like 20 rapid join requests aas host sometimes lol

Even the clearly strong players can get left out

[nocturne dust]

Don't you dare pretend like psyker speed buffs are good

[trim garnet]

ive been having such a blast with the electro lmb spam setup

ball machinegun

[nocturne dust]

lmb spam is actually spicy on havoc

[trim garnet]

it really does just shred whatever you point it at even without macror

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t want to finger bang my mouse to death or I’d try it

[nocturne dust]

lmao, I like it on havoc because it doesn't shred

Suppression is useful and you're often forced into melee for hordes

[trim garnet]

i have a mod that makes the staff lmb autoclick if you hold it, doesnt work with quell cancelling but its good enough

[nocturne dust]

but it works for taking out the big stuff and buffing your allies with empyric shock (with other psykers on the team, somewhat obviously)

[nocturne dust]

FullAuto, it is known

[trim garnet]

i am NOT gonna get a rsi in the name of ball spam

[zinc phoenix]

I wish they’d just add that to the game

If it’s an intended way to play

[trim garnet]

yes i think more games should have full auto in settings

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's kinda problematic

[trim garnet]

the quell cancel with a macro is problematic

[nocturne dust]

Like, FullAuto will kill you

[zinc phoenix]

You can’t cancel it?

Oh because peril

[nocturne dust]

Not if you peril yourself

yeh

[trim garnet]

hence why i use warp unbound with it

[zinc phoenix]

I’m so used to peril mgmt now I barely think about it 😂

[trim garnet]

you can reach NEAR 100% scriers uptime with warp siphon

and psykinetics aura

so i just run that and never worry about peril

[nocturne dust]

I wish there was an option to have FullAuto stop after a certain peril level

[trim garnet]

you could go old fashioned and use transfer peril on the staff too ig

[zinc phoenix]

So playing the game for you?

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

https://tenor.com/view/broken-finger-broken-fingers-broken-hands-sponge-bob-sponge-bob-square-pants-gif-12264054

I mean

There are quite a few things

That have a really hard time exploding you

And really lmb spam does too if you do it manually

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/never-do-that-lewis-jackson-avoid-doing-that-never-do-that-action-gif-13660536477736908889

[trim garnet]

NEVER GOON

nah but yeah idk

i think warp unbound makes transfer peril useless

i used to use it on voidstrike scriers before we had warp unbound though!

[nocturne dust]

I mean, there's a reason Voidstrike was a shriek staff like all the rest before warp unbound

[radiant frigate]

still is

[trim garnet]

i ran it with scriers simply because i thought scriers was the coolest thing ever

[nocturne dust]

[trim garnet]

but yes shriek is (almost) always universally better for staff

i think warp unbound is my favorite thing ever still though

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike actually can fair very well with Scrier's now to the point where I wouldn't say shriek is outright better

but I'm also crazy

Look at this madness

[trim garnet]

no perfect timing on scriers? :o