psyker-class

[icy wind]

xD

[marble crater]

Poor

[nocturne dust]

Idk, I don't even look at the enemies staggered stat

[radiant ice]

Yes that's excessive, I only got 3k on this game today XD

[hearty wolf]

Yeah that was the issue I was having, I often didn't feel safe enough to want to channel. Is that m1 style of spam a massive noob trap?

[marble crater]

I don't know

[nocturne dust]

Kind of

[hearty wolf]

Tbf this was only like havoc 20-25 right iirc?

[radiant ice]

No it's really good for stagger, but you gotta know when to stagger and when to damage

[radiant ice]

Hold on, I took a screenshot of the Havoc 40 game where I got the others True Survivor XD

[split lance]

@nocturne dust @strong gulch @lethal lagoon sso for havoc today. Atlas and i gotta play a bit slower, but the caveat is yall gotta play a bit faster

[nocturne dust]

It's not terrible damage, but I really only pull out m1 for ragers, and even then only if they're close

[split lance]

and we will get to 40

no doubts

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

100%

fr

on god

no cap

[hearty wolf]

Given that I topped damage by a substantial margin, I think I probably had the right mix. Really I need to record it so you can see the situations I decided to m1 or m2

[split lance]

swag

[nocturne dust]

Idk, I think the biggest issue is

LMAO

[marble crater]

[split lance]

ill touch you lil bro @broken lagoon

[nocturne dust]

tren, you said you would slow down

Hadron calling you a liar

[radiant ice]

Ok fair, on a Havoc 40 with no downs across the team, I got a little more stagger

[split lance]

whats the biggest issue

[nocturne dust]

Me running zealot

[split lance]

oh

i can try zealot

[nocturne dust]

I suck at zealot

[split lance]

atlas

does not want that tho

@strong gulch if hes willing

[marble crater]

When I played with you and Atlas for the first few times my biggest issue was also keeping up, not used to it from pubs

[upper sun]

you guys playing havoc?

[nocturne dust]

I feel very useless with Zealot even with the bible thumper build

[split lance]

nothing scares me more than a 45min game

[radiant ice]

I still need to do Havoc assists but I'm so burned out on it XD

[upper sun]

anyone wanna play not havoc?

[strong gulch]

Will try!

[split lance]

I BELIEVE IN YOU

[marble crater]

They are, we weren't invited it seems

[hearty wolf]

Yeah it's jarring, it's like auric pacing but the hordes don't agree xd

[split lance]

not yet

[upper sun]

good

[split lance]

im on kovaak s

[upper sun]

lets play not havoc

[zinc phoenix]

Havoc is super easy if you take your time

[upper sun]

i wanna play more relic sword

[split lance]

see

[nocturne dust]

yes

[split lance]

im not going to take my time

again

[nocturne dust]

Guess who doesn't-

yeah that

[split lance]

i refuse to be in a 45min game

[upper sun]

not 38 💀

[nocturne dust]

lol

[radiant ice]

Havoc 40 isn't that bad, but a 40 game does take like 40 mins minimum

[upper sun]

and esp not 38 gloriana...........

[marble crater]

We can play not havoc in a bit later, can't yet. I will practice choir boy

[upper sun]

how much later?

[split lance]

im going to break the wr

[nocturne dust]

💀

[lethal lagoon]

No one is making you run zealot

Run psyker

[split lance]

my old man bones

cant take it

[nocturne dust]

We would die way harder without bible

[split lance]

also i will be going to the gym much later

so we have til then

[lethal lagoon]

Don't let tren's youthful gen z vocab fool you. Both his brain and body are = to a 40 year old.

[marble crater]

I don't know yet, whenever people get home. They didn't take keys with them

[zinc phoenix]

Yes 38+

[lethal lagoon]

Compared to an extra bubble

meh

[zinc phoenix]

Literally just go at a consistent pace in a tight group and you cruise thru

[lethal lagoon]

As long as you do dps

[split lance]

no

[vernal temple]

wow, just had such a smooth havoc 31 on the new map. biggest surprise I haven't went down once
all thanks to one of Dominaya's builds

[split lance]

we need bible

that extra toughness

is just

[nocturne dust]

boss dmg

[split lance]

fucking amazing

[hearty wolf]

It is one of the easier ones for sure

[lethal lagoon]

I did the most boss damage with my chain axe

[split lance]

idk why u dont like toughness

[upper sun]

just invite me when you can

[lethal lagoon]

I'm also pretty sure I do the most shield damage

[upper sun]

ill warm up

[lethal lagoon]

but there's no tracker for that

[strong gulch]

I'm almost 40. 🫡

Old together.

[clear heath]

Did u guys win the 40 tren?

[nocturne dust]

I was running dueling sword which was a mistake

[split lance]

no

[nocturne dust]

I suck at aiming

Psyker brain

[split lance]

bois

[lethal lagoon]

We had two dces at once

[split lance]

ill go zealot

[lethal lagoon]

probably the sever

[radiant frigate]

how

[lethal lagoon]

but it was sasdge

[hearty wolf]

o hello, wanna run more havoc today?

[marble crater]

Yes, I will also message you here first

[clear heath]

maybe tomorrow

[nocturne dust]

is it not also counted in boss damage?

[clear heath]

kinda tired today

[lethal lagoon]

no

[hearty wolf]

kk

[lethal lagoon]

Shield damage isn't counted

[nocturne dust]

[radiant frigate]

no because damage is not being done

it is being blocked

[nocturne dust]

wow, rude

[strong gulch]

I haven't died yet. It's one of my longest standing hobbies.

[lethal lagoon]

Run chain axe on your zealot

kill the bosses

[radiant frigate]

pretty sure you're immortal

[marble crater]

Mine too

[nocturne dust]

uuuuhhhhh

[radiant frigate]

source? haven't died yet

[nocturne dust]

is thammer not better?

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

I've never used chainaxe

Seems like a terrible time to start trying

[marble crater]

Female vet vibes

[lethal lagoon]

You just go vrrr, and then go brrr.

[zinc phoenix]

Relic sword is solid

[lethal lagoon]

It was also my first time using it

[zinc phoenix]

More horde clear doesn’t hurt

[nocturne dust]

I tried relic sword

[radiant frigate]

i do love LC

[nocturne dust]

It does not mesh with my brain

[lethal lagoon]

We do not need horde clear with 3 psykers lmao

[radiant frigate]

too bad that i've only heard the "besides, pretty sure i can't die" convo once

[nocturne dust]

I am limited to small brain weapons that let me spam either lights or heavies depending on target

[clear heath]

nah take more horde clear

make the poxwalkers suffer

[radiant frigate]

i mean, relic sword does this decently well

one of them anyway

[marble crater]

I think I have only heard it on YouTube

[nocturne dust]

which one?

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

[radiant frigate]

the uhh mk 10

the other one trips me up

mk 10 lightspam is solid into hordes

sweep sweep stab

[nocturne dust]

I wish we could make custom combos for ourselves

[hearty wolf]

Mk2, mk2, mk2, mk2

[radiant frigate]

you can also go light light into heavy spam

[hearty wolf]

SWEEP [SWEEP sweep]

[radiant frigate]

since the sweepy heavies keep chaining into sweepy heavies

the mk 2 relic blade felt really weird the one time i used it

[hearty wolf]

I promise it's goated

[radiant frigate]

it has sweepy heavies starting but then you need to go heavy light at some point to keep sweeping

[hearty wolf]

yes after the first heavy

h1 [h2>l]

[radiant frigate]

it also felt really weird to go light light into heavies for single target out of neutral

[hearty wolf]

PA

[radiant frigate]

true fact?

[hearty wolf]

You have a really good transition from sweeps to single target too

It's SO good

[nocturne dust]

This is why I dislike it

look at these combos

Utter nonsense

[hearty wolf]

Nooooo 😭

[nocturne dust]

Brain just want stab now

[radiant frigate]

it's not rocket surgery

just big sword

[hearty wolf]

Once you get a feel for it, it's the best thing ever

[nocturne dust]

Brain just want stab now

[hearty wolf]

I still think mk3 evisc is more fun but

Relic blade CLEAVE

[radiant frigate]

i would like evis 3 a lot more if it had any sort of single target damage

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAA HOW DID THE NET ROTATE

I WAS IN CHASTISE REEEEEEEE

[wind spruce]

You weren't. It fired after you stopped 😦

[hearty wolf]

I find the light swings for mk3 deal decent st which is good for mixed. And since you're revving anyway for certain heavies, it works out fine.

I find the mk3 has a place for both revs and also heavy attacks, whereas the mk15 doesn't have much reason to differentiate between heavy and revs

[upper sun]

that would make me very upset if i could read

[nocturne dust]

mk15 revs are sometimes overkill, just a heavy faster

Reason to differentiate: 1

[hearty wolf]

That's an issue for me not knowing breakpoints :)

[radiant frigate]

sometimes thing big but not BIG big

e.g. gunners

raw heavy is good enough

revved is overkill

[hearty wolf]

I swear I've tried like heavy on gunner and it lives (probs missed the head)

[radiant frigate]

possible

[marble crater]

"I am your doom"
Gets netted
Dies in fire
Peak zealot moment

[radiant frigate]

i am stupid so i sometimes just lightspam them

when i am not in a hurry

[clear heath]

woe, net be upon ye!

[hearty wolf]

That's fair enough man xd

[radiant frigate]

you doom me am

[hearty wolf]

Anyway point is, mk2 relic feels good imo but it will require some upfront braincells before it becomes muscle memory

[radiant frigate]

it does indeed require upfront brain cells

[zinc phoenix]

It’s worth spending some time working out combos, it’s not too hard either. Esp when you’re gonna be playing a class whose big thing is excellence with melee weapons

[nocturne dust]

This is why I play psyker 😭

[radiant frigate]

you should excel at SWORD WIZARD right now

[hearty wolf]

You'd be surprised at the extra mileage you can get out of weps knowing their combos

[radiant frigate]

remember how we spoke of how you could not be the greatest sword wizard without a wizard greatsword?

WELL NOW WE HAVE IT

you are out of excuses

[nocturne dust]

I do

Big brain FGS

[radiant frigate]

acceptable

[nocturne dust]

In that cursed run, I was literally meleeker and killed most of the bosses

[clear heath]

fatshark gives us the coolest melee weapon only for psykers to pull it out for 3 seconds per mission

[zinc phoenix]

You can also try out different combos in a mission so that’s nice too

[radiant frigate]

big sword finally here, alongside a mode that disincentivizes big sword

solution: use big sword anyway!

[nocturne dust]

😔

[clear heath]

true!

[nocturne dust]

Big sword big fast when?

[zinc phoenix]

I think it’s more it brought back the importance of ranged damage for all classes instead of mindlessly running at massive meat waves and grinding them up with ease

[clear heath]

i think people will find melee less unreasonable as they get used to the difficulty

[dull gyro]

I often edge myself at 100% and this annoying ass LOUD sound plays when I hit 100%, any way to turn it off?

[strong gulch]

Oh I saw this in case anyone wanted VT2 type scorebaord.https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/453

[zinc phoenix]

Now there’s rewards for playing careful, engaging in melee at the right times and using ranged at other times

Where before you could literally just waaagh forward at all times if you were good enough

[clear heath]

being used to the difficulty is disproportionately more important for squishy melee.
You need to do proper risk analysis or else you either die or do no damage

and no one's realistically used to it yet because it has been literally 2 weeks

[radiant ice]

I'm actually wanting to make my own that is straight up the VT2 scoreboard

UI and all

[hearty wolf]

I think it's actually been the easiest transition for me because I hardly played Darktide so I've unlearned bad habits from not playing

[zinc phoenix]

Exactly right. The tactics brain of “is this a situation I can survive” is so important

[nocturne dust]

Havoc literally just enforced the playstyle I already had

Being a coward

[marble crater]

[zinc phoenix]

Biggest complaint right now is that the infinite cleave options are pretty boring

Trauma is fun but purgatus is mindless

[nocturne dust]

Yes but Havoc without them is...

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeanwaiting-gif-18508033

[zinc phoenix]

Idk id love to see staves have combos and move sets for the ranged attacks

[nocturne dust]

Ew

No

[zinc phoenix]

So it’s not just holding down right click the right amount

[nocturne dust]

[clear heath]

i think the huge hitmass increases for hordes was kind of a bad decision

[hearty wolf]

Change the alt attack on staves to put it in a different mode

[clear heath]

i can get around it with fgs with warp splitting, but not every melee or every class can handle this

[nocturne dust]

yes

Alt mode into monk mode

Hit the enemy with your fists

[zinc phoenix]

I think constraints on what works is part of how you create distinct roles and interesting build tradeoffs

Autocorrect ree

[clear heath]

kinda but it feels like some weapons are basically screwed

[nocturne dust]

Build tariffs

[clear heath]

shovel vets suffering more than usual

[hearty wolf]

What actually IS perils of the warp lore wise? What's actually killing you? The warp itself (inside you?) being unstable?

[clear heath]

not every weapon has a good cleave blessing

[nocturne dust]

a demon

Entering your mind

[zinc phoenix]

Gone lewd

[hearty wolf]

that's spooky

but the demon can't enter my mind if I edge

hmm

[clear heath]

Do ogryn melees suffer much from the hitmass increase? Ik the ogryns suffer in general but like, do they have ways of cleaving okay?

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah

[clear heath]

shield probably works fine

[zinc phoenix]

Shield has some infinite cleave

Some of the other stuff like karsolas is still dope

[clear heath]

i guess even outside of havoc, half of the ogryn melees weren't used much anyways

so this isn't specifically a havoc issue

[zinc phoenix]

Tauntgryn with shield is kinda the thing rn tho

[nocturne dust]

if it were lore accurate you would probably get possessed and watch yourself become something similar to a daemonhost and murder the rest of your team

[hearty wolf]

💀

[zinc phoenix]

That’s what happens in rogue trader sometimes

[hearty wolf]

Why is there no title

"The unsanctioned"

Also

all this talk

really makes me want to play

[icy wind]

think I found my favorite psyker build

[hearty wolf]

where are eligble gamers

[zinc phoenix]

Idira gets possessed and spawns stuff if she gets really unlucky at high peril

Pretty fun

[clear heath]

i kinda feel bad for the ogryns in party finder. it probably sucks

ngl i kinda don't choose them much either

[zinc phoenix]

The secret move is to join as a zealot and then switch to ogryn

[marble crater]

[hearty wolf]

Mood. I actually have been prioritising one of each

[zinc phoenix]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/im-fine-fine-okay-dr-who-doctor-who-gif-18824153

[marble crater]

@upper sun coming online now

[nocturne dust]

Live video of ogryns in party finder

[upper sun]

try to join me

if not inv

[zinc phoenix]

I take pogryns in my party

If they have solid clearance level I assume they know their stuff

[nocturne dust]

[icy wind]

found my fav psyker build

all 3 curios is just max hp

[marble crater]

Plot twist, they did it as zealot and don't know how to play ogryn yet

[clear heath]

i choose zealots a lot of the time
kinda hard to be awful if they can be convinced to support

[nocturne dust]

That is certainly a build

[clear heath]

I've actually seen some insanely good vets

and some insanely bad ones

[hearty wolf]

thiss will be too easy

I want to reroll

[zinc phoenix]

I discriminate against zealots b/c a solid 60% are running chastise while grinding relic

[clear heath]

the common trend is that the vets that deal good damage happen to have good melee damage as well

[icy wind]

never gonna use anything else beside shield

[clear heath]

and the bad ones literally never melee

[icy wind]

save me and my team so many time from hoard of gunner and reaper

[clear heath]

i guess sunder power sword is just that good

[nocturne dust]

[zinc phoenix]

What diff you playing on?

[marble crater]

@upper sun fine, invite me when you are finished then

[icy wind]

Damnation

[upper sun]

nah

that was shameful

you dont wanna know what happened

[zinc phoenix]

You don’t need shield, you need to learn to not stand in front of the one gunner

[nocturne dust]

Sliding? In this economy?

[icy wind]

I mean I dont want to be in their line of sight either

[zinc phoenix]

You are still in the tutorial part of the game

[icy wind]

either way I will use shield over shrike

[zinc phoenix]

Try different things

[icy wind]

shield too good for me to not use it

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

O lawd, they listened to the high havoc advice without understanding a thing

😔

[icy wind]

I don't even play havoc

[nocturne dust]

Exactly

[icy wind]

[nocturne dust]

[orchid cedar]

What works best for the cliffhanger penance?

[clear heath]

should ideally get used to surviving without shield before learning to rely on it

[zinc phoenix]

Shriek and a ledge

[clear heath]

if you're nothing without the shield, you shouldn't have it

[orchid cedar]

Thanks

[icy wind]

are ppl in this chat hating on shield or something

[nocturne dust]

Idk, it's fine I guess. Play how you want.

[icy wind]

[clear heath]

i used to hate on the shield a lot more

[nocturne dust]

But we will judge you.

[clear heath]

but it's a good tool

[zinc phoenix]

Today I taught a group of people that standing on the abyss side of clandestinum Gloriana when fighting a shield boss is bad

And they listened and stopped doing it

[clear heath]

i just think if you can't live without it, it'll build the worst habits

[zinc phoenix]

Well, two of them did

One went into the abyss

[icy wind]

why hate shield when it block all range attack and replenish toughness for everyone?

[nocturne dust]

No, they're just aware of the downsides of shield

[bold cape]

shield can easily become a crutch

[nocturne dust]

Defense is unneeded.

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not about hating/not hating. It’s about learning all the facets of the class

Again, you are in the tutorial part of the game

Learn how it works

[nocturne dust]

Outside of Havoc, shield is completely a waste because you can literally just position and slide better to ignore ranged attacks

[bold cape]

support is unnecessary in things under havoc because just killing the enemies 99% of the time is more efficient

[clear heath]

you're also gonna get better at judging whether or not a situation is worth popping shield if you've played enough time without it

how do you know if something is dodgeable or not if you've literally never dodged right?

[nocturne dust]

Or just be like me and spam it with psykinetics and warp siphon

[hearty wolf]

You'll also learn where natual cover is on maps and the upsides and downsides of using that particlar cover

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[hearty wolf]

Basically - shield is a crutch

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, shield becomes a crutch if you aren't careful.

[hearty wolf]

I will say that applies to havoc too honestly but the utility it brings in havoc is actually warranted since it gives you breathing room that you need as opposed to just want

[zinc phoenix]

You don’t need it

Genuinely

On most maps there are alternatives

[nocturne dust]

You don't ever need it, but also screw you, I need it

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[hearty wolf]

You don't no, especially if you have an alternative

[zinc phoenix]

But it will take us time to get used to that

[hearty wolf]

But for example, Gloriana

After first major event

After the elevator

If you can't leave the room, and the elevator closes

and there are a million gunners there

You next cover is quite far away

It's not unsolvable, but it's going to be much more effort than its worth.

[bold cape]

even then, it happens subconsciously
playing nothing but havocs with bubble has deteriorated my ability to play normally lmao
im sure it’ll go away after a few games but its still rough

[nocturne dust]

Didn't happen to me

[clear heath]

There's a difference between using it as a good tool that's helpful even if you're good
vs
Using it because you kinda suck at surviving otherwise
One is using it as a good ability, the other is using it as a crutch

[bold cape]

im bad at the game

[clear heath]

and if you only play with bubble from when you're new to the end, it's just gonna be a crutch for you

[nocturne dust]

But also I play bubble on aurics so, counterintuitively, I knew just how to not rely on it in Havoc

[bold cape]

ah
yea i never ran bubble

[nocturne dust]

Smh my head, watching my Havoc buddies stand at the center of the bubble out in the open as it slowly turns red

[icy wind]

fine I will try shrike or something

with brain pop

[hearty wolf]

idk why but it took me until yesterday

[nocturne dust]

Don't use warp rupture

Use creeping flames

[hearty wolf]

to realise what the sound was when the bubble was getting shot

[nocturne dust]

Shriek at 85%+ peril

[bold cape]

some staffs let you get a full extra cast
like purg will let you charge and fire the entire bar at 100, just gotta shriek at the end of it

something neat

[icy wind]

same stuff

I like inferno for hoard clear and funny random brain pop on elite when I just shoot flame

[hearty wolf]

Then it procs on a poxburster 💀

[icy wind]

I use combat axe bc it's the only decent melee I have atm

[icy wind]

it explode on my teammate not me

[hearty wolf]

[bold cape]

tren energy

[nocturne dust]

@hearty wolf wat is your zealot build for havoc

[icy wind]

welp I hope this gonna go well

[hearty wolf]

Mm, lemme log on and show but. Y'know. I can't imagine there is much different

I did make it myself so it might be sub-standard in some kind of way, you tell me

[zinc phoenix]

There’s a wall thing in that section you can cover off behind

Also the elevation change allows you to “hull down”

[hearty wolf]

That thing is dogshit, I swear to you. Especially if they want to stand at the sides of the door on the exit

[zinc phoenix]

Basically minor changes in elevation to eliminate LOS

[hearty wolf]

That elevation change is really good tho ya

[zinc phoenix]

I also use crouch a LOT there

Then there’s the container corridors along the sides

[hearty wolf]

Just need to be v.v.v aware of what's going on there because of armour packs/grenadiers

[hearty wolf]

Once you're there, you're good ya

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker with trauma is extremely good at bullying armor blobs

[hearty wolf]

Unless there is a horde

[zinc phoenix]

Also I love that flanking is now important

[hearty wolf]

I do not recommend that room for horde

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it’s back into the elevator area for horde

But for gun duel it’s fine

[hearty wolf]

Is for zealot 1

(Beacon)

[nocturne dust]

no heal node?

[hearty wolf]

for zealot 2

[clear heath]

That's mostly pretty normal aside from dropping holy rev

and that's a viable choice anyways

[zinc phoenix]

I personally run midline to get immo nade and skip holy rev

I also take top right to get crit from bleed for more CDR

Holy rev and whatnot are totally unnecessary

[hearty wolf]

I play to win more, dying is cringe and I shouldn't have done it anyway.

Also, if I downed at havoc 40, it's probably something that gave me a ton of corruption which I won't be able to heal anyways

[zinc phoenix]

If you want to play like a madman zealot holy rev is good but if you want to team play you don’t really need it

[clear heath]

Something to consider is maybe dropping a piety node so you have a spare point for holy rev if you really need it.
Stalwart has actually gotten a lot of popularity in havoc cause it makes you tankier
something like this

[zinc phoenix]

But if you go down bottom right you get crit for CDR node

[hearty wolf]

Valid, I like taking no resources because I don't know what my teammates need. If they're a terrible player and they need grenades to output, they need grenades to output.

I also just think blades of faith is kind of absurdly strong

[hearty wolf]

The problem is

See how that says crit?

That means I need to take it unfortunately

because when you crit in this game

it shows as orange

and I like that colour

so

[clear heath]

fair enough

[zinc phoenix]

Ok here’s what I run https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9db9d9b3-05ba-4d42-b26e-7fdd5b1f55cf/bob-2

[clear heath]

if deadvoid wants something tankier though, i think the build i showed is a solid option

[clear heath]

i think giving up until death and second wind is kinda weird tbh

[hearty wolf]

I like the appeal of this one. I'd run it if I didn't dislike the concept of backstabbing.

You'd be spamming chorus non stop with that.

[zinc phoenix]

Second wind doesn’t really do much except give you slightly more dodge while sprinting

When out of Stan

Stam

[clear heath]

no this

[nocturne dust]

I already don't do damage with zealot

[hearty wolf]

You don't need second wind in that buld because of all the cdr

[zinc phoenix]

Oh yeah that one is good but idc about it because I’m going to be shitting out chorus every five seconds

[hearty wolf]

Honestly, that build is what I would call a havoc meta build

Maybe minus the weps

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I run it with bolter and relic

[lethal lagoon]

When that religion hits so good you get stuck on the toliet

[zinc phoenix]

I didn’t set the weapons or curios

[lethal lagoon]

[clear heath]

i think you could probably still switch to stalwart and get enough crit to have constant crit cdr uptime

Critting once every 4 seconds on even a non-crit weapon is pretty easy with just piety

[hearty wolf]

If only it reached the bottom of the tree for completion

[clear heath]

well, unless it's something slower i guess

[zinc phoenix]

Which one is that?

[hearty wolf]

Left side on the bottom keystone, rather than right

[zinc phoenix]

Oh

[clear heath]

i mean doing something like this

Saves you a point, makes you tanky

uptime shouldn't be an issue on most weapons

idk what you're running

[zinc phoenix]

Relic

Bc is cool

Idk I think more crit is kinda my thing with this build

[clear heath]

oh hmm, maybe you do need the 15%

[hearty wolf]

In reality - this is semantics. Havoc 40 is genuinely not hard enough for this to matter because you're a chorus bot anyway

Just smack thing, show your book and be happy

[zinc phoenix]

Yep

[clear heath]

cause like a knife or a riposte dueling sword absolutely doesn't need the 15%
so you can save a point and have 25% dr

relic blade might not have enough to proc the cdr without it though

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah and that makes sense, I just don’t like running knife and imo ds on zealot is lamer

[hearty wolf]

Crits ARE based on the swing aren't they? Rather than on enemy hit?

[clear heath]

yeah they're based on the swing

although it does need to hit to trigger the effects

can't just swing at the air

[hearty wolf]

Gotcha. Hm. Well even if you drop crit cdr for like 1s, it's no biggie tbh.

Given that the weapon you're bringing is pretty strong anyway

[flint pawn]

best staff I've gotten so far

[zinc phoenix]

Eh if you can’t maintain CDR it’s probably a situation where it doesn’t matter

[hearty wolf]

V.good

[maiden oracle]

What’s the dump stat on blaze force sword

Is it still mobility

[flint pawn]

warp resistance

[clear heath]

warp res

[maiden oracle]

Oh that’s cool

I’m assuming that affects how fast you build up peril?

[flint pawn]

yeah

[clear heath]

only with the special

[maiden oracle]

Bet

[clear heath]

Doesn't affect stuff like, peril blocking with kinetic deflection talent

[maiden oracle]

What’s the horde and st combo for mkiv

[zinc phoenix]

Standard force swords are mostly a sidearm for the staff

[clear heath]

wait i'm thinking fgs

ignore that

mk iv force sword is the deimos

single target is l1 h2. You just want as many pokes as possible

horde clear, idk
everyone just kinda light spams with it

[maiden oracle]

lol

Alright bet

[prime elk]

obscurus is very good now

don't sleep on it if you want a fs

[nocturne dust]

[maiden oracle]

When do I use the special

[nocturne dust]

I tried Obscurus

[zinc phoenix]

I require my fs be great

[clear heath]

never

[nocturne dust]

It's still worse than Deimos imo.

[maiden oracle]

Damn fr?

[clear heath]

the special is just for building peril

or captain shields i guess

[maiden oracle]

Ok

[strong gulch]

Accidentally put trauma on my surge build. I had smite and illisi.

I swapped to smite to take out far off sniper only to realized that I was just making the air sparkly. 😭

[clear heath]

or when there's a single mutant and no other threats, and you're far too lazy to headshot a poke

[zinc phoenix]

You can use the special on deimos to zap a crusher or rager to prevent them doing their thing but if there’s more than one don’t do it you’ll die

[prime elk]

if you're using your sword for literally nothing but single targets, deimos is better

if you want at least some horde clear too, obsurus is better

[zinc phoenix]

I mean yes

[prime elk]

obscurus single target isn't much weaker than deimos

[zinc phoenix]

Because it’s a standard fs

[nocturne dust]

Deimos has horde clear

[zinc phoenix]

So I have a stick

[upper sun]

@marble crater whats ur build

[nocturne dust]

slap slaughterer on it

e z

[upper sun]

flamer without throwing knives is unplayable

[zinc phoenix]

lol why would you try that

[clear heath]

I haven't tried obscurus yet but that looks neat

[marble crater]

I have throwing knives, I just don't use them

[zinc phoenix]

Its self evidently bad

[prime elk]

can confirm it's neat

[upper sun]

ask em

[nocturne dust]

looks at buff bar

[zinc phoenix]

I see you prefer to be netted 😂

[marble crater]

I don't use them for pulling out faster, because I forget I can do that

[prime elk]

pretty standard stuff if you're fighting a horde

[maiden oracle]

Oh mk4 has some really shoddy horde clear

[hearty wolf]

context needed

[nocturne dust]

I mean you do you but idk why you're fighting a horde on Psyker in melee and not using FGS

[prime elk]

what even is this logic lmfao

[marble crater]

Swapping to flamer takes a long time, throwing a throwing knife skips part of the animation

[nocturne dust]

FGS is great, to use any other melee? Ew, sad, disgusting, bad

[prime elk]

ok fair

fgs is based

[clear heath]

if obscurus has a good single target combo now, doesn't that make the special more redundant?

this is the deimos issue all over again

[upper sun]

also you cant do shit against disablers without knives if you have a flamer

[hearty wolf]

O ye, knives skip so many animations. V.good with relic blade

[prime elk]

oh yeah totally

[upper sun]

tbh

im starting to like the shitier mark relic

[prime elk]

not even good for charging up peril

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-20076210

[marble crater]

The vet took care of them

[upper sun]

because i didnt

one more?

[marble crater]

Yes

[upper sun]

my beloved... yard is up

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark: "Yes, yes... I'll give them unique weapons where they can't use the only thing unique that plays into their class!"

[clear heath]

I think it would be cool if they gave the deimos/obscurus special an aoe stagger at the end

it wouldn't even be that op
zealot crusher can do it instantly anyways

[marble crater]

I killed a few specials with knives, you just weren't looking

[nocturne dust]

at the beginning

[upper sun]

all i saw was u running away from trappers

because u were knifeless

[clear heath]

like it would be cool if you just blasted warp into the enemy and they just exploded

[marble crater]

Also throwing them on console is awkward

[clear heath]

also cool if this could open bulwarks

[upper sun]

ye i can imagine

[marble crater]

Like physically just awkward and bad

[nocturne dust]

that's what the push attack is for

[upper sun]

you just need to practice more

youll get used to em

they are pretty forgiving

[marble crater]

I will not

[deft stump]

Just like pinging lul.

[tired estuary]

I'm not huge on pad fps in general but lmao dt controls like total shit on pad

[upper sun]

now youll see how bad i am with knives

[clear heath]

aiming knives hard

i think i'm only barely good enough with them to make it worth grabbing

[zinc phoenix]

Force push

[nocturne dust]

is only for bulwarks, really

[icy wind]

just beat damnaton with shrike build

idk how wel I do but inferno staff with brain rupture is fun

[nocturne dust]

and also, let's be real

[zinc phoenix]

Rager and crusher too

[clear heath]

I do like the regular pushes of the force weapons having longer range

nice for bursters

[nocturne dust]

force push is not really that unique to the class or interesting. Like, it's just a stronger push. Das boring, weak. Gimme something interesting

[zinc phoenix]

It’s very powerful

[brisk lance]

What is wanted on Voidstrike in terms of stat rolls?

[clear heath]

this would be deflector but fatshark is a coward and made it a blessing instead of an innate feature

[zinc phoenix]

When I switch to non force push I feel it hard

[nocturne dust]

dump blast radius

[nocturne dust]

😭

Never forget

[brisk lance]

And regular Force Swords?

I remember there being all sorts of builds for them.

[nocturne dust]

warp res

dump warp res

[icy wind]

should I buy random item in the shop and feed it to haddron for free mastery?

[brisk lance]

I have like 10 "god rolls" from back before the changes to Hadron

[strong gulch]

Unlimited dodges taken away.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[hearty wolf]

where's the gaming gang

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[bold cape]

mood

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

@vt@marble crater I GOT BODY BLOCKED WHEN A BULWARK WALKED THROUGH ME

[marble crater]

Skill issue

[upper sun]

YOU KNOW WHATS NOT A SKILL ISSUE

[zinc phoenix]

Also, learning to care about stamina: an essay

Fuck stamina

Stamina is a ho

Having to not sprint everywhere is lame

[upper sun]

i was gonna say you ammo cucked me@marble crater

but the footage does not support this

[marble crater]

If anything I didn't flame enough

[upper sun]

tbh my fuck up

i mess up the combo for the reaper which got me killed

we should have rushed the revive while you covered me with the flamer

[marble crater]

Shoulda coulda woulda, hard to do without voice chat

[upper sun]

i dont think voice chat would have helped me remember the combo

hey second game with that mark

but ye its getting late i dont think i should play more

[marble crater]

But helped with rushing the revive

[upper sun]

yeah prolly

[marble crater]

Good night

[upper sun]

i like our little 1 room duos :

who said anything about sleep

[marble crater]

Ok

[upper sun]

i just dont wanna clickmaxx around my roommates at this hour

[maiden oracle]

I’m kinda confused why didn’t you stab the reaper instead of the grunt

[marble crater]

Yes fighting bon with a bunch of snipers and everything full pox gas was very fun

[upper sun]

thats the other mark

[radiant frigate]

fucked up how havoc is either "super smooth no problems" or "i have to clutch three times"

[upper sun]

this mark has a slash PA not a thrust

[upper sun]

tbh

[clear heath]

have you considered aiming at the head, or doing attacks that deal damage?

[maiden oracle]

Both marks have a running stab though

I’m not talking about push attack

[upper sun]

ye the sprint

[clear heath]

yeah you sprint stabbed a poxwalker

[upper sun]

i didnt sprint long enough for it to do that

[maiden oracle]

Yea the reaper appeared on screen first why did you stab the grunt

No you literally did a running stab

Straight into the grunt instead of the reaper

[nocturne dust]

[radiant frigate]

i tried this one again just now

[marble crater]

Stop bullying clad

[clear heath]

wait no it was a shooter

[hearty wolf]

It wasn't a combo, plus your sword wasn't heated and there was no reason to engage it like that neither. The mistakes occuered prior to that clip - the way I see it anyway

[clear heath]

nice target priority

[radiant frigate]

what trips me up most of all is that SPECIAL DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH COMBOS

[flint pawn]

psyker chat is the broken lmb surge staff build still around

[radiant frigate]

ok so i special and then i heavy for the sweep and- that's an uppercut

GAH

[clear heath]

yeah

still the same

[hearty wolf]

It's also a block

[flint pawn]

gotcha

[analog agate]

It ain’t that broken on havoc though

At least pus hardened

[upper sun]

the purpose of that clip was the body block other issues

[clear heath]

idk if havoc's quell nerf screws it over

but there's also a lot more armor

[flint pawn]

man I need to play havoc finally

[radiant frigate]

that part is mostly whatever

[hearty wolf]

Oop - I know. Sorry for the unwanted criticism

[analog agate]

I tried it with the macro useage. Not great

[radiant frigate]

neat sometimes

[radiant frigate]

honestly not missing anything

[marble crater]

I mapped ping to RB with the software my controller came with on Xbox and then mapped up on the dpad to one of my pedals all the standard layouts suck

[radiant frigate]

it's either a cakewalk or sanity-draining

with very little inbetween

[upper sun]

nah its still welcomed its my second game on this mark i still need to practice it more

[analog agate]

I’m going to begrudgingly do havoc at least 50 times. And then maybe never do it again

I doubt I will last to 100

[hollow stirrup]

OI SPARK 'EADS

runk 'opes yer all 'avin' a good day

[flint pawn]

so wait is auric mael still the fun stuff then

[marble crater]

Hey sweet brute

[radiant frigate]

do you enjoy getting shot and dying instantly

[hearty wolf]

Auric mael is in a horrible state now

[radiant frigate]

if so, right this way

[flint pawn]

maybe on tuesdays

[hearty wolf]

The quality of players in it

Are utter dogshit

[clear heath]

havoc is kinda growing on me but i don't have the mental fortitude to play it constantly

[hearty wolf]

On avg

[flint pawn]

I mean that's why it's fun

[hearty wolf]

I understand, that's why you need gamer gang

[flint pawn]

I get to true solo but actually get rewards for it

kinda neat

[hearty wolf]

I would say rewards is a bit generous

[flint pawn]

I'm still in a state where I need plasteel

so yes, rewards

[clear heath]

havoc gives a lot of plasteel btw

i got 20k for 33 last week

[marble crater]

Once a week

[clear heath]

for 1 game of havoc every week, that's an insane value

[flint pawn]

33 havocs? or level 33 you mean

[clear heath]

havoc rank 33

[flint pawn]

I still haven't looked into it lmao

gotcha

[clear heath]

it's just based off your highest cleared

will decay if you don't play for a week so

idk if you get rewards on the weeks you don't play though

[hearty wolf]

So basically, queue with me

[clear heath]

no idea how that works

[hearty wolf]

Instant 40

gg

[marble crater]

It is, just setting expectations for the others before they get disappointed when a mission doesn't give any

[clear heath]

the real disappointment is the ordo dockets

[deft stump]

Too lazy and wanted dodge on bumper. So ended with no keystone Vet. XD

[marble crater]

[flint pawn]

let's go, I'm gonna instantly throw let's do it

[hearty wolf]

On second thought-

[flint pawn]

THE VOICES

THE VOICES

[clear heath]

they gave so many materials that it has become irrelevant but barely any ordo

[hearty wolf]

💀

[clear heath]

like a couple more weeks of havoc rewards and i will never need materials again

[hearty wolf]

Honestly I wouldn't mind skipping you a bunch of havoc ranks if it's entirely premade, but if it's half random I'd rather you get a feel for the emperor's fading light modifier

[bold cape]

wait really
20k a week just for playing 1 havoc per week?

i have zero plasteel

[marble crater]

Fading light is quite ironic with all the lasgun fire illuminating the entire map

[clear heath]

someone else posted this last week too

[flint pawn]

dear god help

[clear heath]

yikes the ordo dockets

[flint pawn]

I just queued into a mission with TWO surge surge psykers

[clear heath]

but that might as well be infinite materials

[marble crater]

Clip it

[clear heath]

will never pay attention to them again

[bold cape]

35k plasteel waow

but wtf are those dockets????

[radiant frigate]

nonexistant

[clear heath]

with dockets being that bad and mats being so plentiful, i might just consecrate shit to sell them for ordo

kinda cursed

[bold cape]

3 auric maelstroms worth for your painful suffering

tho not even

more like 2-2.5

[marble crater]

what is the dump stat on the regular bolter?

[bold cape]

mobility id say, mines 60

[marble crater]

Mobility yes? Or is it some weird voidstrike situation?

[bold cape]

never wanna run with it out anyway

since it fucking drains 10 stamina bars in like two seconds

[marble crater]

Good

[bold cape]

when are the rewards again?

[marble crater]

Perks and blessings?

[hearty wolf]

monday

[clear heath]

tomorrow

[marble crater]

Sunday to Monday reset, 0 UTC

[clear heath]

like 24 hours or so

[marble crater]

Yea

[clear heath]

24.5

[bold cape]

i think it’s for how you want to use it
like for havoc i use cavalcade + puncture for boss dumping
but pinning fire and shattering are good too

[clear heath]

for bolter?

[bold cape]

for auric i use puncture + shattering i think

[marble crater]

Yes

[clear heath]

common picks are puncture shattering on zealot, or puncture pinning on vet

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not sprint, it’s sprint into dodge lets you do the stab attack on mk10

[clear heath]

vet doesn't need shattering as much, 10% rending node, and it hits insane breakpoints with pinning

zealot kinda wants the rending for puncture to do anything to crushers, but you could change it if that isn't a priority

[bold cape]

4 shots to crushers with it i believe

i use that for auric, then cavalcade for havoc cause im not wasting ammo on an enemy type that’s already devastated by the team and just chunking bosses instead

[zinc phoenix]

I think I take surgical on bolter because I always aim forever anyway + I want crits rlly bad

• shattering

I mostly use it to shoot gunners and specials so puncture is whatever

[bold cape]

surgical is good but isn’t the way i play
id take it on say, the revolver but im not pulling it out that long just to shoot specials, i almost always bring it with knives

[zinc phoenix]

most of my bolter stuff is long range

I think is definitely a playstyle thing, if you short range mag dump it would be very dumb 😂

[bold cape]

i like to use it in close
magdump a boss weakpoint

[zinc phoenix]

Yep that makes sense

[bold cape]

lmao

[marble crater]

Thanks everyone, my zealot now has a bolter

[bold cape]

let’s goo

my favorite ranged for zealot

not that i have many
but it’s really fun

[zinc phoenix]

Idc if it’s good I just like the sound 😂

[bold cape]

yes

it FEELS amazing

and that’s the most important bit

who cares what’s good if it doesn’t feel badass to use

[radiant frigate]

i never liked the bolter

[bold cape]

but the fact it’s actually good now is the cherry on top

[radiant frigate]

i just run reconlas on everything these days

[bold cape]

i like the recon on vet
havent really used it for the other two

but i try to make all my classes as different as possible in their builds
for maximum variety and whatnot

cause i burn out easily if i use one thing

[radiant frigate]

bigsword knives reconlas

peak loadout

[bold cape]

my friend uses stealth, knife and zarona revolver on both vet and zealot, and that’s all he uses even after ~200 hours
i would literally die

[radiant frigate]

very

i don't use ranged weapons much if i can help it

and reconlas deals very well with reapers and it can do good boss damage with infernus

ammo efficient

mobile

[bold cape]

melee peak

[radiant frigate]

shooting? i sleep

[bold cape]

why i love vt2 so much
melee only classes my beloved

[radiant frigate]

melee? real shit

reconlas is a means to an end

rather than a "i like gun because shoot fun" type situation

if i'm going by feel i'm bringing agripinaa iag

nice and chonky

still accurate

and it's okay on ammo, and not too bad if i don't always hit heads (which is the case)

but it won't kill bonbon

[bold cape]

i really like the recon cause it’s ammo efficient and probably benefits among the least to be precise with

my aim is shit

[radiant frigate]

my aim exists

ish

[bold cape]

i can land shots on target

but quickly and precisely on the head? no

rarely

[radiant frigate]

only with knives and on targets running at me

targets running sideways are like

fucking impossible

[bold cape]

ikr

even with knives i have to take a little second to line up

[ripe obsidian]

I use a Bistol on Meleeker to kill cowards who won't get into melee range

[marble crater]

Today I learned the bolter is not fully automatic?

[bold cape]

it’s not??

[marble crater]

Not for me, I had to pull the trigger for each shot, maybe it's broken

[patent mango]

bistol funny

[bold cape]

i use the mod to make all weapons full auto

[ripe obsidian]

LMB is automatic.

RMB is not.

[bold cape]

i know aim in is semi

[patent mango]

full auto mod breaks sometimes if you use it

[marble crater]

Ahhhh that explains it

Don't have any mods that can mess it up, just my own ignorance. This was the first time I used it

[prime elk]

well LMB is a 2 shot burst i think

but tap fast or have full auto mod and it's automatic

[ripe obsidian]

On Bolter?

LMB is definitely full-auto

[marble crater]

Yes, I tested in meat grinder now

I only tried rmb during the mission and wondered how people can shoot that thing so quickly

[ripe obsidian]

LMB when you don't care about accuracy

RMB when something specific has offended your sensibilities

[radiant frigate]

i was also wondering that

[bold cape]

lmb when up close to something and it needs to die right now (boss)

[prime elk]

oh huh not sure why i remember it being 2 roundb urst

but yeah the rapid fire is funny

[ripe obsidian]

Now get 40.

[radiant frigate]

because it never shoots less than two when not aimed down

[prime elk]

see a horde of elites, and they just get deleted

[bold cape]

tren survivor…

[radiant frigate]

i find bolter annoying

[split lance]

i was showing my group the next mission

[radiant frigate]

oh look something's vaguely threatening

magdump

it's dead!

[ripe obsidian]

Good luck. The tunnel right before the end event is brutal.

[marble crater]

It's deeAaAaaAad

[prime elk]

well most of the time you're not supposed to be magdumping

[ripe obsidian]

I've lost more havoc missions to that tunnel than anywhere else.

[prime elk]

unless you want your team to hate you

[clear heath]

the end event is also kinda brutal

[ripe obsidian]

Dopamine demands magdump.

[prime elk]

yeah

it's very tempting

[bold cape]

magdumping into anything less than a boss is not a good idea

but you can magdump into a boss weakpoint for that MAXIMUM dopamine release

since 4 quick rounds will dispatch a crusher

assuming you have shattering

[clear heath]

how often do you magdump bosses in havoc?

[ripe obsidian]

It's really bad with randoms. People either a) expect a lull in the hordes so they back off and just hold position or b) get sick of their team hunkering down and run off to die.

[bold cape]

always
it’s about the only time i pull out the bolter

[clear heath]

Most of the time i see people just melee bosses

[bold cape]

usually end up with ~200k boss dmg and get them out of the way a lot faster

[split lance]

flamer too good

for havox

if i were zealot

id just melee the boss

its so much dmg

[clear heath]

I figured it probably makes more sense to magdump the other shit around the boss cause then stuff will actually die, and then to melee the easy lone boss

[bold cape]

havent leveled it up
once i get my stimulus of 30k plasteel i will

i magdump the boss then switch to my melee

[marble crater]

That's what the purge psyker is for

[clear heath]

like if you magdump the boss, it'll still be alive and it isn't really any easier, just kinda quicker

if you magdump the other guys, fighting the boss will be easier

[bold cape]

usually the psykers on my team take care of that very well

[split lance]

flamer does significantly more

[marble crater]

But ammo

Flamer doesn't feel nearly as good to use either

[split lance]

flamer feels great wym

[marble crater]

Feels slow and unwieldy

[prime elk]

it feels great once you start blasting away

[bold cape]

can’t wait until i actually have plasteel to spend

[clear heath]

should've done havoc last week

you'd have so much

[sinful peak]

chasm logistratum gotta be the hardest havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Flamer is nice. Does so much damage

[clear heath]

gloriana

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, Gloriana is

[sinful peak]

idk man I have a higher success rate on gloriana

once you get past the mid event it's smooth sailing

[ripe obsidian]

Getting past the mid event is the hard part

Getting to the mid event is the hardest

[clear heath]

at least gloriana will kill you early instead of failing you at the end

[sinful peak]

logistratum is just constant ass fucking

[clear heath]

chasm logi makes you think you're doing well until the later parts

the last few areas are pretty horrible

[marble crater]

I don't know what the later parts are

[bold cape]

what’s the one with the long ass starting area that’s on the ledge to the left?

[ripe obsidian]

Gloriana

[bold cape]

yea that map fucking SUCKS

me and trens group failed it like 5 times on havoc 38

[ripe obsidian]

When you are in a very long subway tunnel with two tracks

[strong gulch]

Double barrel gloriana...

[bold cape]

4 out of those times were on the ledge part

all the other maps were fine

relatively

at least

[marble crater]

Ah and the Daemonhost and then also a monstrosity spawn

[ripe obsidian]

Yes

I have lost so many missions to that tunnel

[bold cape]

@lethal lagoon you get tren survivor yet?

[lethal lagoon]

I think it's fair to say I'm a survivor of tren, but no tren survivor yet.

[strong gulch]

Me when I saw a mutant.

https://tenor.com/view/fall-ralph-wiggums-the-simpsons-roll-down-hill-gif-17004391

It also ignored the wall and smashed me anyways.

[ripe obsidian]

You're more interesting than the wall

[marble crater]

What if muties could throw you off ledges

[bold cape]

think that’s the nicest thing you’ve ever said

[strong gulch]

I've peaked.

[strong gulch]

That's illegal now. (supposed to be )

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't think I was mean. D:

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/im-in-dange-the-simpsons-ralph-wiggum-meme-gif-17180214

[marble crater]

Being mean and not saying nice things are not mutually exclusive

[strong gulch]

yes

[strong gulch]

Some of the meanest things I've heard has been when someone used nice words. lmao

[marble crater]

Tomorrow I will torture myself in havoc again, playing auric after havoc feels so freeing and almost calm, so you get overconfident and fuck up eventually

[strong gulch]

yes

NOTHING CAN KILL ME HAHAHA dies

[marble crater]

Ah yes passive aggressiveness and their kind

[marble crater]

In my case taking unnecessary damage because I was enjoying DS zealot movement speed and forgot I have a ranged weapon and throwing knives, I wanted to run to and stab everything

[ripe obsidian]

This is accurate to the experience, yes.

[strong gulch]

Zealot brain does that. 😭

[marble crater]

It was choir boy training for havoc, I successfully used my combat ability several times so I think I'm ready

[strong gulch]

Sounds right. Read to the people. Tell them stories.

Stab the monster under the bed... that are inside the bubble.

Never leave the bubble and watch psyker do all of the damage.

[marble crater]

Insult heretics as foul wretch while you sit in the bubble

Fun times

[bold cape]

im kidding :(

banter is my love language

the more i like you the more (jokingly) mean i am to you
see tren

[strong gulch]

You're good at banter. There is a certain kind of loving stank you put on words and it's funny.

[bold cape]

[primal plume]

Smite should crit

[radiant frigate]

no

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/boondocks-read-rap-fans-exorcism-uncle-ruckus-gif-23038600

[vernal temple]

Huh, took me a couple of havoc missions, but I feel like I finally understand how to properly use the Trauma staff

[marble crater]

Did you figure out you need to aim it at the ground?

[vernal temple]

previously all I've known was the Surge staff

[vernal temple]

something like that

[bold cape]

smite should be removed from the game and replaced or completely reworked :)

[vernal temple]

speaking of staves. I was thinking

if ObeseFish comes up with a new type of staff, what should it do?

[nocturne dust]

[dusky crag]

idk just take one from vermintide