psyker-class

[radiant ice]

Mainly as Sith

Where there is also a big RP community funny enough

[split lance]

nvm , were hopping on marvel rivals

[bold cape]

NO WERE NOT

[radiant ice]

You better not be

[bold cape]

WERE DOING HAVOC

[split lance]

@nocturne dust

get in here

@lethal lagoon is leaving

[bold cape]

@lethal lagoon clown

[lethal lagoon]

[bold cape]

@nocturne dust our last hope

[split lance]

just say you dont love me

[radiant ice]

You already know, you don't need me to

[split lance]

see you wont say it

bc we know what youre really feeling

WEE NEED 1 MORE FOR HAVOC

39

[radiant ice]

Could always party finder

[bold cape]

n o

38 was a struggle
the map we were on SUCKED

[split lance]

no ones trying to join

sadge

[radiant ice]

It would help if you listed it properly

It's listed as an open damnation game

[split lance]

i did it the right way

please be proud of me

[radiant ice]

When you list it, select "My Assignment" or no one will join

So still not right!

And drop the 35-40 bit

Cause it filters it too much

[split lance]

WHERE DOES IT SAY MY ASSIGNMENTS

[split lance]

how bout now

[radiant ice]

There ya go

Look at that, join requests cause people can actually see the game!

XD

[bold cape]

@radiant ice you joining vc or nah?

[split lance]

said no

bc they hate me

[radiant ice]

Nah I feel awkward not talking and don't wanna shout at Tren at 4am

[bold cape]

o

[split lance]

im not actually bad :(

[split lance]

join

[bold cape]

we vibing

[strong gulch]

Do you need a 4th?

oops that was not the post I meant.

Same group and same diff lol

[nocturne dust]

I am also available for shenanigans

but potato was here first so I'll acquiesce

[strong gulch]

If you need a 4th, pick Void. I played with the group last night.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

I assume they were impatient and did a party find though

[bold cape]

yeha we lost cause of it lol

[split lance]

wym

that dude was cracked

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-arthur-joaquin-phoenix-you-get-what-you-fucking-deserve-gif-15915948

[bold cape]

actually yea we lost cause of u

mb

[radiant ice]

I can't read scoreboards

[split lance]

u went down first

hmmmmmmmmmmm

[radiant ice]

So I have no idea who we lost cause of

[bold cape]

shut up

[fiery stratus]

needs more crusher overheads

[bold cape]

no bubble
gunner

[split lance]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[nocturne dust]

Everyone

[radiant ice]

I didn't even need healing until the wipe

[split lance]

i got hit by the door bomb

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmm look at dat vet

pro strats

[split lance]

hes good

[nocturne dust]

I assume knife vet?

cuz of da bleed

[bold cape]

he wants the random
travesty

[bold cape]

duelling

[radiant ice]

Why are all 3 of you max height

Feels like bring your kid to work day

[bold cape]

tall woman

thats it

[split lance]

im tall irl

[strong gulch]

FGS maxxing

[nocturne dust]

I am also max height

[bold cape]

im 5'2 irl so gimme a break

[strong gulch]

Make big

[nocturne dust]

Big sword bigger sword maxxing

[radiant ice]

Yes, agreed, tall women are great. But being the small woman for a tall woman is better

[strong gulch]

Tall women. Yes

[nocturne dust]

Game has no dwarf 😔

[bold cape]

TRUE

[nocturne dust]

Stupid Fatshark with stupid 'only one major height difference type allowed' excuse

GIVE ME SMOL PEOPLE FATSHARK

https://tenor.com/view/book-of-grudges-total-war-warhammer-dwarfs-dwarf-vengeance-gif-19626646

[fair spruce]

** OI **

[nocturne dust]

oi wat

[radiant frigate]

we have big people with dwarf proportions, does that count?

dwarf (upscaled)

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lara-croft-saying-no-tomb-raider-lara-croft-tomb-raider-the-angel-of-darkness-tomb-raider-anniversary-gif-10720487479635811892

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/864mcs-cat-cats-i-dont-understand-what-gif-9048178289631536337

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/little-little-space-anime-cute-kawaii-gif-16805204

[radiant frigate]

(i do actually)

ogryns and dwarfs are pretty much opposites

only thing they have in common? rashuns and mining

[nocturne dust]

I want a tiny anklebiter gremlin

[radiant ice]

@bold cape @split lance Was fun but I can't keep awake any longer, best of luck getting to 40 XD

[nocturne dust]

destroyed

[bold cape]

should we continue or call it and continue tomorrow? @split lance

thinking a break will do us good

then we can wrap up 39 and 40 when atlas is here

[split lance]

Continue tomorrow

[ripe obsidian]

If you'd like, I can play tomorrow. I can be a useful Zealot or Psyker. Possibly Vet as well, but less likely.

[split lance]

Sounds good

[bold cape]

so us 4?

[nocturne dust]

wow

@strong gulch I guess we need to find new friends 😔

[split lance]

If ur on

[nocturne dust]

If I'm on?

If I'm on... wat?

[split lance]

The game

We play

You guys weren’t on earlier

[nocturne dust]

I don't just idle in the game

[strong gulch]

We said we were ready lol. No worries. I can hop on if ur still gaming.

[nocturne dust]

I'm up for something.

[strong gulch]

kk

Hopping into game now.

[bold cape]

wait whats happening

[nocturne dust]

just some games

[strong gulch]

Oh wait, I have to verify because hotfix.

[nocturne dust]

You can just cancel that

I never verify

When it asks to verify I just say no and it goes 'aight, cool'

[strong gulch]

I need to reacquire a file 2 out of 3 times. So I do it.

[nocturne dust]

Gremlins in your machine making files go missing

Fatshark Gremlins

[strong gulch]

Still have to tell the launcher no, because Steam wants to verify on its own if a file is fecked.

[bold cape]

ur continuing now?

[ripe obsidian]

Depending on what difficulty you're running, I'd be up to join you for a few matches.

[radiant ice]

@split lance I decided to try a game before I went to bed but I don't play these styles of game. I do good or bad? We won at least XD

[ripe obsidian]

Is this Marvel Overwatch?

[radiant ice]

Seems so!

[nocturne dust]

I dunno if we're doing Havoc. I guess we could, I'm only on 32 for hosting though.

[radiant ice]

But I am confused, it's like a colour bomb

[ripe obsidian]

Fascinating. I don't like either of those things.

[radiant ice]

Me neither

[ripe obsidian]

I don't need to do havoc

[split lance]

You did very good. I’m proud of you

[ripe obsidian]

I mostly wanna be a goofy meleeker

[nocturne dust]

Well, we'll probably be running aurics at least.

[split lance]

No

[bold cape]

ah alrighty

helldivers with bf time

[split lance]

So @radiant ice 1-10 how bad am I at darktide

[radiant ice]

For Democrussy

[radiant ice]

Is 1 bad or 10 bad on that scale?

[split lance]

10

[radiant ice]

5

[split lance]

1 bad

[nocturne dust]

10

[split lance]

10 is awful

[bold cape]

11

[split lance]

[nocturne dust]

40

[radiant ice]

5

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

Ya know. Everyone talks so much trash to me

And I 100% get it

[nocturne dust]

You start it

[bold cape]

its out of love

[radiant ice]

I mean you invite it

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

Yeah

You did good, compared to my Party Finder games it was a relief

[split lance]

Obviously

[radiant ice]

But you invite in the insults

[split lance]

99% of what I do on here is talk shit

It’s out of love

[bold cape]

yes

[split lance]

My athletes hate it

Told this one guy his hips were weak and he got pissed cuz they aren’t weak. They’re just the weak point but that’s not how he took it

[radiant ice]

My hips are weak

[nocturne dust]

Realistically speaking, I think your only issues are being able to stay aware and cognizant of the situation. You often get separated/get beaned because you aren't paying enough attention. Just my opinion though.

[radiant ice]

But that's cause I fell off a mountain a couple years back and struggle to walk some days 😐

[split lance]

Omg

[split lance]

I gotta stop watching house

I’m addicted

[ripe obsidian]

But the mountain can't even walk, so you won the fight.

[strong gulch]

Yup. Needed to acquire a file. @nocturne dust I'm getting in game.

[radiant ice]

I only watched House this year, and I watched almost all episodes back to back

[nocturne dust]

I watched House once long ago

[split lance]

But yeah I agree

[strong gulch]

@bold cape @split lance If ur still gaming, you are invited too.

[split lance]

Agent said the same thing

[split lance]

What we doing

[radiant ice]

I mean compared to my party finder games, at least you remained in the same postcode

[strong gulch]

Just some danktide. It can be havoc, it can be aurics, it can be memes.

[nocturne dust]

I thought @ripe obsidian wanted to join?

[split lance]

Honestly idk why I asked

I already agreed to play a different game

[ripe obsidian]

I want to be a part of things, yes.

[split lance]

With a different person

[strong gulch]

Oh gotcha.

[split lance]

I apologize

lol

[radiant ice]

He's joining me on rivals

[ripe obsidian]

I'm fine with not joining if someone else wants to play more.

[radiant ice]

(nah I've hopped off to go sleep, eventually. When I stop getting distracted by bs discord chat)

[strong gulch]

Applogies. So @ripe obsidian and @nocturne dust

[split lance]

That’s only bc it’s havoc. If it was any auric mael. I’d be far far in front

[split lance]

I’m down for a game or so

That’s what I’m hopping on with with my friend

[radiant ice]

Nah I've already shut down my pc XD

I have work in 3 hours

I should get some sleep

[left dagger]

another to the badly placed medpack

[split lance]

Get sleep pookie bear

I need to stop

But the omnissiah told me not too

[hollow current]

[ashen schooner]

well, why are they waiting for you?

[nocturne dust]

@strong gulch @ripe obsidian lmao, it kicked me out of the strike team

[ripe obsidian]

A netter solo'd us.

[strong gulch]

I saw you just disapear from everything lmao

[nocturne dust]

I saw that bit

Netter + Bulwarks

[strong gulch]

Restarting my game'

[nocturne dust]

wasn't a true solo 😔

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I couldn't see the netter until it was already shooting.

This build doesn't have a great way to deal with Bulwarks

[nocturne dust]

True

Game is telling me 'error signing in'

[strong gulch]

wat

[nocturne dust]

Keeps doing it

Oh there we go

I may need to remove PowerDI 😅

[ripe obsidian]

There's a fix for PowerDI

Hold on

Lemme send you the file in a DM

[split lance]

Hi

[split lance]

What’s powerDI

[nocturne dust]

A mod

Like scoreboard but worse

In every way

[thorn blaze]

Today we see evidence that people have no idea what the psyker player is doing, for better or worse

[strong gulch]

It goes into a lot of detail but can supposedly be resource hog. It's made by the same person who did ovenproof plugin

[nocturne dust]

My machine can handle it, it's not that bad of a hog

[split lance]

checkout this peak psyker gameplay

[nocturne dust]

Okay, i managed to actually log in

[thorn blaze]

We love trauma in this house

[nocturne dust]

@strong gulch @ripe obsidian I think my internet is exploding currently

I'm using my phone to write this, lol

[strong gulch]

SAD

[nocturne dust]

That's 3 DCs, I rejoined just to DC immediately, literally joined to everyone walking in place

[hollow current]

It's weird the DCs have been hitting me the last day and two instead of when the update dropped.

[primal plume]

Nice. Wasnt even paying attention to that

[nocturne dust]

and another DC

[strong gulch]

noooo. May haps this is the last one. Between ur internet my cat harassing me

[nocturne dust]

and another DC

[ripe obsidian]

Very nice.

[strong gulch]

Thanks for games!]

[ripe obsidian]

I definitely like this build a lot more in Auric than Havoc. I can actually run at things without getting deleted by a single shooter

[nocturne dust]

yeh, lol

[primal plume]

Beat the game

[rich spindle]

grats

[near wyvern]

@cyan portal

I looked into the Warp Resistance vs Quell Speed a bit more as you suggested. While it is true that you can indeed get a full pump off with dump quell that you cannot do with a dump warp resist, just like I recommend for void(strike), I have several problems with it.

The first problem is that unlike void, you have to be close to your enemies.
This means you need to be able to control them to avoid getting hit. Going full pumps and quelling for one tick will not be sufficient to prevent a stream of poxwalkers from coming to slap you (or your allies), which in return prevents you from doing this string when very close to the enemies.

The second problem is that you claim for optimality, yet you contradict yourself with your own testing.
If we take things out in a vacuum and just go for pure optimality, you tested it yourself that 60% charge is the optimal charge % to hit. This (and a bit over) is safe to cast even with dump quell speed (image by Bot - MeaowBeep).

The third problem is fighting mixed horde.
Since you will be hovering around 100% peril with inferno, unless you have creeping flames ready to go, there is not much you can do if you get jumped by elites in the mix, since you can't quickly go for 3-4 quell cancelled LMB shots around you to gain control. Void doesn't have this problem since you are always playing it in the backline. The easiest way to simulate the situation is to go for the creature spawner easy melee challenge, set yourself 100% peril and turn off the invisibility.

Therefore, I will not recommend dumping warp resist instead of quell speed for purgatus. However, I will be adding a note that going 80% quell speed will allow you to safely do a full pump after one tick and that 60% charge seems to be optimal for DPS which can be done safely with 60% quell speed, as well as that if you stop channeling and start casting RMB before 100% it will be safe to finish it.

image source: @cyan portal

[cyan portal]

"60% charge is the optimal charge % to hit" is missing the very significant qualifiers 'against a single target, and only if you have literally no other active soulblaze stacks'. A qualifier that makes it practically useless. The only likely actual game situation I can think of that fits those qualifiers is when you are fighting a lone monstrosity, and in that situation you're better off pushing SB to 15/16, or 21/22 with shriek, and then switching to melee or BB.

[near wyvern]

yes, I will take care it's properly noted, low charges versus horde is anyways better since overflaming is not needed for CC nor DPS, you want coverage

however, the 60% does hold for stronger elites (reapers, bulwarks with shield open / from backside etc.)

as well as maulers if you don't need to stagger them

[cyan portal]

I'm that one psychotic purgatus psyker that runs ER and shriek, so one tick of quell from 100 gives me plenty of room to do those things.

[near wyvern]

as with many things in the game, there are many ways to play it, many things are viable, there are just some things I like to recommend over the others, and it always involves me trying to figure out the whole picture and not just things in a vacuum

I always start with a vacuum and then try that in practice, because if it doesn't work in a vacuum it's definitely not going to work in practice

Just how I always recommend DS4 is the greatest thing ever but still myself run around knife 6 when not in havocs

because I just like the speed

it may not be optimal but it's all good as long as you can handle yourself with it, it's a video game, you are supposed to have fun with it

take this from a guy who did a no down herecy on lvl 1 psyker

talk about suboptimality

[cyan portal]

I've settled on 33% charge being the generally optimal charge percent in practical situations. Its short enough for a slide to cover the charge time. It keeps blaze stacks capped. It has short enough lulls in crit chances for more consistent EE uptime, and also keeping everything else consistently staggered or suppressed. And it is the lowest charge that triggers 4 dot applications.

There are some situations where more or less is better, but for the general chain spam that feels like the sweet spot.

[near wyvern]

yeah I like to spam low charges in general as well, only really going for longer if I see them coming

and nothing in front of me yet

mostly it's because of the CC

with low charges you can perma CC, which for a close range weapon on a low HP pool class is the sweet spot

[ripe obsidian]

Does RMB with blaze away have enough strength to stagger things consistently? I know it can push bursters, and I think it can push dogs

With this in mind, when would you use full charge vs short charge vs LMB? I use LMB for rager and shotgunner packs, or anything smaller than an ogryn that I need to stop coming closer. But I am not really sure when to use long vs short charge

[left basin]

Real gaming is macro lmb burger and walk forward

[cyan portal]

I normally only wind up a full charge while closing the gap with slides at the start of an engagement.

Because in that situation there is nothing better to be doing. If they don't see you coming they won't react (aka shoot you) until you first hit them.

[quartz barn]

I usually lmb into rmb when getting rushed by ragers

Depends on their distance to me and their aggro

[cyan portal]

If it is a pack of shot gunners, you can side to avoid their shots while getting in range, then the full charge gives you the best chance at EE protecting you from their deletion.

[cyan portal]

Lmb is a stagger/interruption tool. Use it whenever you want to stagger or interrupt something. It is a hitscan that only shoots where you're aiming, even though the animation makes it looks like it can sweep. For damage it is fairly suboptimal, with the only situation you might want to use it for that kinda thing is building or refreshing stacks on a boss.

[mellow heath]

I'm going to kill someone

I decided to finally spend the money to roll for an actually perfect greatsword

And finally got one (19th total)

After some empowering though.....

Like, what???

[near wyvern]

others than ragers, maulers and ogryn sized enemies yes

but if you go full pumps they have time to recover

[cyan portal]

The rest of the time, short changes are best. Sweeping if there are enough targets, or holding it on a target if thats all there is, or if you want something in particular in a horde dead sooner.

[near wyvern]

LMB when you see ragers and maulers, RMB low charge spam for small chaff, if there is a pause and you see a new wave coming that's when you go for the long RMB charge

if you see some big bois (bulwarks, crushers) you have to see how is your team and if they have friends, if your team is on it and they have friends, keep RMB flaming through crushers to control the small chaff, if you have creeping flames use it to open the bulwarks and do the same

otherwise it's melee time

[cyan portal]

LMB when you don't think a short charge will kill ragers and maulers before they reach you.

[ripe obsidian]

Good information, thank you.

[near wyvern]

or your friends

always save the idiots

[ripe obsidian]

What if, pray tell, I am the idiot?

[cyan portal]

Keeping your Blunts alive is optional, though the banter is sometimes nice.

[near wyvern]

there is no cure but I will pray for you

[ripe obsidian]

I sometimes get excited and lose track of my team. Otherwise I do fine.

[near wyvern]

is it that or is it just that the team doesn't know they should be following the main character?

[ripe obsidian]

Like today I ended up making friends with 3-4 flamers behind a wall of bulwarks because I ran too far ahead

[left basin]

Pugis make scrierstrike build

[ripe obsidian]

I desired to burn. I ended up burning in a different way than intended.

[left basin]

It's meta I tell you

Heresy viable

[ripe obsidian]

My Beloved says everyone should follow me.

[near wyvern]

why scirerstrike when you could do scrier electro LMB

machine gun go brrr

[left basin]

I like mad/pained laughter too much

Did you end up figuring out the metaest meta fgs meta

[mellow heath]

Btw, just to confirm, is my sword stuck like this now? I'm seeing mixed info on various known bugs from various amounts of time back maybe looking like this, and I'm not loving how many resources are down the drain into a now not quite perfect sword

[elfin tundra]

whats the dump stat for our force greatswords?

[quartz barn]

Ye this is sadly bricked

This still rarely happens due to fatsharks rounding, despite numerous fixes

[gritty ether]

Warp Resist. Damage, Finesse, and Cleave all increase your damage in different ways (so always max those out), and defenses improves the weapon’s terrible dodge, made even worse by psyker’s pre-nerfed dodge. That leaves only Warp Resist, which only affects the amount of peril generated when you use the special.

[primal plume]

Did they really not consider the fact people would keep playing?

[mellow heath]

Warp resist, as you can see me going for up there

[mellow heath]

[mellow heath]

Misery

[mellow heath]

I decided "know what, it's fine, I'll live with a 61, I don't want to sit here and spend the rest of my money rolling and not get one, I'll just finish upgrading this one and be fine with being 1 point off since it's at least in the second least needed stat"

And lo and behold

So fun

I understood (vaguely) rounding somehow flipping a number up or down by 1

But how does it change by 2???

[radiant ice]

You must have been sat on 61.5%

Ah but it started at 60? Odd

[mellow heath]

Yeah

[mellow heath]

Have it on image even

[radiant ice]

Unfortunately Hadron bricked it

[mellow heath]

You can even tell it's the same one by how maxed the top 3 numbers were despite not being fully leveled yet lol

Sigh

Btw

Reporting back

It does in fact suck on diff 4 and below

But on diff 5 it seems at minimum solid, and possibly the play for my build

I was seeing it (when the buff was visible at least) at at least 15~20 pretty often

At least when actively fighting

It still might not be optimal, I'd probably need the buff to actually always be visible and for me to be paying more attention to it's exact uptime to be sure, but I think it's at least perfectly usable

[quartz barn]

Gonna be honest, a 2 point difference really doesnt matter

[mellow heath]

It's mostly just that if I was gonna invest the resources to max it I wanted to get a perfect rolled one to do that to

[quartz barn]

The only thing that could matter to you here is the slight movement decrease from def

But ye no real reason to settle for less with this system

[mellow heath]

Since that way I'm using my resources most efficiently and not needing to spend then again when I someday do get a perfect roll

[mellow heath]

Yup

[untold niche]

perfect roll is very easy now

[quartz barn]

Me dumping a couple mil on a voidstrike only to settle with a 362 roll before this system became a thing...

[untold niche]

hedllo jc!

[quartz barn]

Also just saying, ideally you want warp res under 60

[quartz barn]

Heyo

[untold niche]

play warffrrame, bvery good game now

[quartz barn]

No i play poe2

[fathom siren]

So I'm doing a psyker fire spread build with brain burst... but I feel like I'm really, really fragile outside of my bubbles

Anyone got any advice?

[untold niche]

wow what a trend -follower

[mellow heath]

It has seemed easy for everything except the greatsword for some reason lol. I've gotten so many perfect rolls on other things just from the normal shop offerings, but great sword I only got this secretly not perfect one after 19 greatswords mostly purchased bulk

[nocturne dust]

I tested it myself. It's.... fine. There's still a reason to not take it even in Auric, it falls below 15 a lot, buuuuuuuuuuuttttt others may disagree. I value consistency a lot more than a few extra stacks 🤷‍♂️

[untold niche]

i heard its pretty good tho, im joking

[split lance]

NO ITS NOT

its awful

worst game ive ever

played

[fathom siren]

Buy more Platinum, Tenno

[untold niche]

19?
You should ask the xzealot regulars how many times they needed to get a perfect thammer, or agentchaos how many times for him to gis his truama staff

[quartz barn]

Chat war time lets go

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bn6L3Q6hY4

awful game

[untold niche]

tf what you mean, i hated it in 2012 and then 2016 but i just started 2 weeks ag oand its bee naswesome

[mellow heath]

I mean, it's gonna be 60 though, right? That's just how the system works unless I don't level it up all the way

[split lance]

(3k hours and like 20 world records)

[mellow heath]

Ig if I was gonna do that this sword was pretty great for that, it hit max for the top 3 super early lol

[nocturne dust]

Yoooo I also got 3k hours

Stop copying me tren

[fathom siren]

Same! 3k boiz

[mellow heath]

I don't have the money to spare to roll much more TT, I only hit level 30 the other day even

[echo root]

Don't worry about it king, the stats don't really matter if they are above ~75% anyways.

[quartz barn]

Not if your warp res is really low when you buy greys, so you can get the 4x80 in other stats before reaching 500 item lvl

[fathom siren]

Events that give you 150k like the current one a real good for it

[quartz barn]

Mine has warp res at 45 for example, which is great for peril uptime with a scrier build

[echo root]

Put ordo dockets on your curios for a week

Replace the toughness regen noob bait on your curios, I know it's there.

[untold niche]

i would suggest, make 1 full build then grind with it

one proper build

[nocturne dust]

I will stab you

[fathom siren]

What is the stat you want at minimum on the psyker greatsword? Warp resistance?

[mellow heath]

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

i occasionaly get possesed by a warp entity and play warframe for 8hrs a day for 3 or so months and then i dont open it for a year

[untold niche]

dont like spread your eesources jsut because shit rolls

[mellow heath]

I mean, yeah, that's what I've done

[nocturne dust]

(It's fine and not bad, there are just haters)

[untold niche]

only curio perk one needs is CDR for real for real

[echo root]

It ONLY works for regen provided by being close to teammates. It does not interact with any other source of toughness.
That type of regen is paused while you have a mob within ~4m of you.

[nocturne dust]

lmao, same

I take breaks

[untold niche]

only elite gamers take CDR

[echo root]

So you're gonna get in melee range of me? Your toughness regen is disabled then.

[mellow heath]

This is my current build, but with that sword I sent with the 62 instead of the sword in the image up there. Staff is a perfect roll one with surge.

[split lance]

If ya ever wanna play lmk

[nocturne dust]

Actually I wonder if FGS has the reach to kill without disabled regen

[untold niche]

im right here and none of you is offering me

[mellow heath]

Yeah

[echo root]

Possibly

[mellow heath]

For my curios I'm just following the big steam guide for now overall, it has seemed sensible 🤷‍♂️

[split lance]

ILL PLAY WITH YOU

[echo root]

Mandatory IMO

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

im one of the haters voids talking about

[nocturne dust]

Actually the big steam guide is weird and sus in a lot of places

But toughness regen speed is good

It's just discounted by a lot of people

and in fairness, isn't useful when you're trying to clutch, which a lot of the tryhards here try to do

[nocturne dust]

Explains why you die so much

[split lance]

wrong

i die so much bc

uhhhh

my teammates dont do their jobs

(im coping)

[echo root]

Make sure you have 1 curio that has +3 stamina, it has to be 410 gearscore or higher. 400GS will show +3 stamina, but will only give you +2 in an actual misison.

[mellow heath]

You can see my +3 stamina curio on the left there

[echo root]

Kinda hard to see when you just post a picture of their names.

[mellow heath]

Actually, lemme just screenshot all my stuff, since those I haven't properly shown, while my talents are fine atp and haven't changed

Just meant that that's the one and it's 410 though

[echo root]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor use this for skill tree instead of ingame

[mellow heath]

I'm aware of that site

I did it once before I had image perms

But it's slower than just taking screenshots

[echo root]

You fill out the skill tree then WINDOWS + SHIFT + S

So you get one picture, no need to post the build through the website

[mellow heath]

I meant more for the items and stuff

Cause those are what I'm about to screenshot

[echo root]

This is what I run currently AFAIK

[untold niche]

itsa not weird exactly, pygex just has a different perspective

[untold niche]

nocie ia will dm you when i need a carry, or free plat

[nocturne dust]

that's the definition of weird

[split lance]

I used to have over 100k

now im broke

[mellow heath]

(haven't maxed the third curio since I plan to replace it first out of the 3 once I find a max roll health, don't want to waste the resources)

[untold niche]

why you gotta tease me like that

btw tennobaum is onj

[nocturne dust]

idk, I should mention when I say weird I do mean it in that sense, that it differs from the norm

No negative connotation, though I know other regions normally have such a connotation

[untold niche]

yeah i figurted thats waht you mean

• i was too lazy to argue on semantics

[split lance]

IDK WAHT THIS MEANS

[untold niche]

if you gift stuff to others you get enrolled into some lucky draw, more you gift more chances

[nocturne dust]

1999 comes today/tomorrow

[echo root]

Toughness is more valuable on psyker than health

[nocturne dust]

Can finally date your warframe

[untold niche]

respect --

[echo root]

You generate an insane amout of toughness through peril

[mellow heath]

(I so want to put crit chance back onto my sword btw, but it nat rolled onto maniac damage level 4 and that's such a solid one to have that swapping it for crit chance seemed silly)

[split lance]

what

[nocturne dust]

The general recommendation is 201 health and then put everything else into toughness

I don't disagree with that rec

[untold niche]

instead of tealaling us what you havce done, tell us waht you need help with.
Unlessa this is morea for sharing

also orry for typos

[nocturne dust]

You haven't heard?

Dating sim update

[untold niche]

corruption resist is more important

[nocturne dust]

[mellow heath]

I want health cause I'm in melee a lot so I'm taking chip damage to health anyways

[split lance]

N

O

[mellow heath]

Was mostly for sharing, as well as to run by folks to see if there's anything noticably wrong or silly in what I have done.

I think it's working pretty well currently overall

But it's good to check

[untold niche]

if so its fine, itsa troublesome to ahve to check every single thing

[echo root]

What do you even do in Warframe? Every time I see my friend playing it he's just oneshotting stuff to farm meaningless upgrades while his extemely thicc character is bouncing around

[untold niche]

i grind for mods and then make fashion frame idk

let me show u

[nocturne dust]

That's what you do

It's a power fantasy game

[split lance]

what do you even do in darktide? run around killing random enemies just to get meaningless titles and challenges?

[untold niche]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1314132210890309712/1316811417009127434/image.png?ex=675d1072&is=675bbef2&hm=e99a91b999456d2115a4634834b6c935f7fac616ae2d69dcfa961f0bd0067fc3&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=955&height=537

[echo root]

I do it for the immersion and difficulty.

[untold niche]

no image perms

rip

[echo root]

You make two mistakes in a row and you're on the floor

[nocturne dust]

Warframe is like the opposite of Darktide in terms of Difficulty. Imagine if Auric Sedition existed with no specials, that would be Warframe.

It spams mooks at you, mooks you are intended to kill rapidly.

[mellow heath]

Yup

I played some Warframe forever ago

[untold niche]

warframe is darktide with way more buildcrafting
way less mechanical difficulty

[split lance]

Difficulty?

[mellow heath]

Lol, been over 4 years

[echo root]

It's pretty difficult doing auric maelstrom or havoc with my friends who play 1-3 hours every week

[split lance]

mirage+bramma+p sure footed=extrerm done in less than 1min

[untold niche]

help them with their builds i guess
darktide itself isn't hard tbh

despite what i see majority of people on the internet say...

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmmmmm, I think that's fair to some degree, but Warframe has a lot of choices and few decisions. Pretty much every primary wants the exact same setup, and other shenanigans. You can definitely craft something interesting though, it's just that the buildcrafting is very much optional.

[echo root]

It's more that they space out killing enemies alone in some corner then go down.
They also never pay attention to dogs / trappers and every time anyone is pinned be either it takes 10s+ to get it resolved since people don't react the first time its called.

[split lance]

Truama staff + aim at floor = mael done

[untold niche]

i think it improve alot now, so your weapon and frame itself have to synnergize, but in the spirit of what you are saying , i get it. so my counter point will be like, just don't run super meta i guess.

[split lance]

ah i see

[echo root]

I much prefer purgatus for carrying, since then hordes are never an issue.

[nocturne dust]

Heh, but I build my frames so they don't need weapons

It helps in Duviri RNG

[echo root]

My friends also shoot every mob in the game no, they refuse to use melee.

[split lance]

trauma will one shot enemies and stagger the bigger ones

and ofc lighting all on fire

[echo root]

I know, but it doesn't carry as hard as purgatus

[split lance]

yes it doe s

if not harder

[untold niche]

i honestly think they should just find an actual horde shooter.
Like because alot of the perks in DT are melee based

[split lance]

bc then you actually do dmg

especially to crusher

[echo root]

Purgatus instantly deletes everything except maulers and crushers

[split lance]

well all carapace enemies

[echo root]

Maulers and crushers die to DS4

[split lance]

wait

wait

were talking auric damn

rught

[nocturne dust]

Me watching the boltor vet never use melee and deleting everything from miles away

[echo root]

Trauma TTK is super low on crushers compared to DS4

3 or 4 blasts

That's close to if not 100% peril without ER

[gritty ether]

Normal, Prime, or Telos?

[split lance]

with trauma, hit crusher, everything else around catches on fire, shriek at 84 = hard to lose

[nocturne dust]

[echo root]

Now they are burning for 31 dmg per tick

[untold niche]

that guy knows to press F every 30 seconds

[echo root]

Could have been dead to DS4 already

[gritty ether]

Do you get my joke, tho?

[nocturne dust]

Yes I get it

[gritty ether]

Good

[nocturne dust]

Imagine if the factions like the Arbiters had a tenth the lore 40k does

[untold niche]

117?
LIKE THE AMP?

[nocturne dust]

Then the Telos Boltor might actually mean something 😭

[split lance]

Ah thats the trick!!! u keep blasting enemies

[untold niche]

fantasy > 40k

i will start an hour long discussion now.

watch

[nocturne dust]

Fantasy as in Warhammer Fantasy or fantasy in general?

[untold niche]

wh fantasy

[nocturne dust]

I like fantasy in general, so I am biased towards WH Fantasy

[gritty ether]

No, like Halo (I came up with that username before Warframe even existed)

[nocturne dust]

but also they did the Age of Sigmar thing which is

[echo root]

Are you really saying you could kill 2 crushers with Blazing Trauma faster than DS4?

Cause I'm not seeing that

[split lance]

no

[untold niche]

btw have you seen the true radius of trauma?

[split lance]

but theres no point in puling out a ds4 if theres a horde of any density

[echo root]

The horde dies in ~2 seconds from purgatus

[split lance]

if ur in a room with literally just a crusher

then ya sure 2 tap it

[echo root]

Yes, it's my second most played staff.

[split lance]

if ur in a malice mission yeah ofc

[echo root]

Shit lights the whole screen on fire when you crit

[split lance]

anythign does

im not even saying purg is bad

trauma just bette r

[echo root]

Purg with blaze away demolishes hordes

I don't play malice

[untold niche]

wait are you playing blaze trauma?

if you do play trauma

[echo root]

I play blaze + nexus trauma

[untold niche]

doesn't that handle hordes as well though?

i seen agent play it

[nocturne dust]

It does, yes

[echo root]

It does horde really well, but it cannot compare to how fast purgatus demolishes it

[nocturne dust]

It can definitely outrange Purg tho

[echo root]

Yes!

[split lance]

kill the horde

before it becomes a horde

[nocturne dust]

Still waiting for more staves

[split lance]

why trauma is better

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-patiently-beetlejuice-numbers-now-serving-gif-14805864

[split lance]

wow

[untold niche]

@echo root you know what demolishes horde, and also can carry your 1-3 hour per week playtime friends?

the forbidden

[split lance]

i really shoulda cut the videp

video

[split lance]

say smite and im blocking you

[untold niche]

[nocturne dust]

so you like it cuz you can steal soulblaze?

[echo root]

I'm not playing smite no matter what

[nocturne dust]

I mean Purg and Trauma are just good at different things. Trauma can deal with heavy armor, but my purg does stupid boss damage

and that's without uncanny

[untold niche]

sir, it fits all your requirements
( don't worry i hate it as well, i hate it when people use it becauise it makes me not play a game. makes me play an aim trainer)

[gritty ether]

https://tenor.com/view/jocat-smite-paladin-gif-24978604

[split lance]

there becomes a point in time when stealing warpfire isnt my fault anymore

[echo root]

I'm not playing smite nor am I bringing shield until they start sliding towards gunners.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, and we're not there yet

Check back in 6+ years

[untold niche]

what about, the book

or the pee shout

[split lance]

no we are there

[nocturne dust]

Bruh

[split lance]

bc if im on purg

im stealing

[nocturne dust]

You take wildfire

[split lance]

if im on truama i steal

[echo root]

I used to bring book + flamer while they were leveling.

[untold niche]

[split lance]

if im on surge

i steal

it cant be on me everytime

[untold niche]

are they your close friends that help you out irl so you help them out in game

[nocturne dust]

Because everyone else runs bubble for you

It is you

[split lance]

bc its goated

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

i offer to run bubble constantly

AND

[nocturne dust]

You think that because you steal soulblaze. Self-fulfilling prophecy.

[untold niche]

goated... for your ego!

[echo root]

They all have 100+ hours now, no need for training wheels. Making bad choices should net negative results (going down, dying or losing the misison)

[nocturne dust]

You offered to run bubble once when we were playing.

[split lance]

i didnt run it on purg

[nocturne dust]

and I did suggest three bubbles.

[split lance]

no i offered after every mission

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

the 3rd time i suggested

[nocturne dust]

That's a lie and you know it.

[split lance]

atlas told me to shutup

ill run purg next time were running

also

just run wildfire?????

[nocturne dust]

I don't have space in my build for it on Havoc

BM 😔

[late sapphire]

Have you done bubble smite only?

[split lance]

i dont run it on purg

[late sapphire]

Its peak

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmm if we're running 40 I want to run purg

[nocturne dust]

Not yet

[split lance]

well both run purg

[late sapphire]

It's what dorn was talking about every time he threw a fit over 'playing a slideshow'

[nocturne dust]

No that sounds awful

[split lance]

on trauma and surge imo theres room

on purg

far less room

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I don't use surge on Havoc

I don't have two willing bubble slaves, and even if I did... I like to be in control of bubble placement

[gritty ether]

Is wildfire the one that applies soulblaze on elite kill or the one that applies it when killing an enemy affected by it?

[nocturne dust]

the latter

[gritty ether]

Ok

[split lance]

U can run it if you want

[split lance]

today we were doing 3 bubbles

[nocturne dust]

The last time I didn't run bubble or zealot, we all died

[split lance]

when did that happen

[gritty ether]

Yeah, I see no point in running it on Purgatus. IIRC it’s not “4 stacks to each enemy in range,” but rather “4 stacks, divided amongst all enemies in range”.

[nocturne dust]

Uuuuuhhhhh, the first Gloriana?

I can't recall

No it was before Gloriana

I remember being super annoyed because whoever had bubble wasn't placing it enough so i just spent so much time sliding in place dodging bullets

[split lance]

We beat gloriana today

it was fucking awful

[nocturne dust]

I mean it's not that bad after the first bit

[split lance]

when i run bubble

[quartz barn]

Having a concentration stim for gloriana is amazing

[nocturne dust]

It's just really easy to wipe on the first bit

[late sapphire]

Yes and only up to 4 stacks

[split lance]

im placing like 3 a fight

[nocturne dust]

Place more

[split lance]

on 37 it was awful

[quartz barn]

You just make a bubble wall

[split lance]

bc even after the barrel caution area that event area is fucking horrifix

[nocturne dust]

That's part of 'the first bit'

[gritty ether]

Is it that it can’t give stacks to enemies that have 4+ stacks already, or is it that the amount is capped at however many the triggering enemy had?

[split lance]

ill take wildfire off

:sadgeres

fuck

[nocturne dust]

I mean, it's fine

[split lance]

Well if meowboop was right

[nocturne dust]

I don't care about the scoreboard.

[quartz barn]

Enemy spreads their stacks, up to 4. So if they had 3 on death theyll spread 3, if they had 4 or more itll be capped at 4

[split lance]

neither do i

except when theres a huge huge huge

differenev e

[nocturne dust]

It does make blaze away wonky though

[split lance]

yeah

if theres a purg with blaze away, me stealing warpfire is doing less dmg

[quartz barn]

This will either be all stacks to the same enemy if only one was nearby, or evenly spread when theres multiple nearby (usually 4 stacks on dying enemy > 1 stack to four nearby enemies)

[split lance]

ive literally started shrieking far later

[nocturne dust]

Maybe I should put wildfire on my purg to let blaze away do its thing

But then Idk what I'd drop

[quartz barn]

Thats just a waste tbh

[split lance]

but the issue lies in if im the first to kill an elite

[split lance]

send ur build

[nocturne dust]

it's not if you want to get the first stack to keep Blaze Away

[quartz barn]

Isnt that only on the first enemy tho

Or first attack rather

[late sapphire]

It can't apply stacks above 4

So say you have 10 groaners with 6 stacks and they die then the unflamed groaner next to them still only gets 4

[nocturne dust]

Something like this iirc

[split lance]

if non blazeaway fire is on enemy, blaze away doesnt procc onto it, it only adds stacks

[nocturne dust]

and no

I'm not dropping KD

[summer prairie]

i drop soulstealer there for havoc greed

[late sapphire]

It's more that the first sibling to apply sb gets ownership over the debuff

[nocturne dust]

I could try that

[late sapphire]

And all of their buffs apply to the dot

[split lance]

drop battle med or soulstealer

[nocturne dust]

hm, or maybe quietude?

[summer prairie]

then you can't get bm

[split lance]

need it for battle med

[late sapphire]

BM is peak in havoc dont drop it

[nocturne dust]

mettle doesn't work

[late sapphire]

Soulstealer is ass

[nocturne dust]

I could get warp expenditure

[summer prairie]

works well enough

[nocturne dust]

[late sapphire]

Dont need it on purg

If you are purging a horde you are proccing everything else anyways

[nocturne dust]

Hhhhmmmm I guess I'll drop soulstealer and pray mettle's wonky interaction is enough

[split lance]

tbh drop soulstealer

thats what zealot is there for anyway

[late sapphire]

Get soul drinker

[nocturne dust]

true, the bible is the toughness

[nocturne dust]

As soon as they buff it to +50% crit

It's coming, trust

[late sapphire]

Right after they move it to the left side surely

[nocturne dust]

Honestly, I wonder how things would shift if they merged souldrinker and wildfire

Then we at least wouldn't get people complaining about the uselessness of wildfire

[late sapphire]

Wildfire should be a passive tbh

How can it be fire if it doesn't even spread on its own

[nocturne dust]

Well it's technically not fire 🤓

[late sapphire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/640690634621190144/1305874429955276800/gkxdm8lfozub1.jpeg?ex=675cd396&is=675b8216&hm=8a1b3fa8db23e76936cd35e14c322740bbc5225db9e13becdb657cb722f526e9&

[nocturne dust]

It would be nice to distinguish soulblaze and burning tho

aside from color of course

I really love the dual fire on havoc tho, so 👌

https://tenor.com/view/pacha-perfect-emperors-new-groove-very-good-gif-5346522

[split lance]

IT IS NICE

I didnt know that purg was SO MUCH better

[nocturne dust]

Is Purg better?

[split lance]

wait

[nocturne dust]

I never looked at the flamer's stats, but me running it in Havoc felt stronger, at least when I did use it, than Purg

[split lance]

wait

i meant flamer

[nocturne dust]

but I didn't run everlasting flame

[split lance]

idk y i said prg

[marble crater]

tren also stole all my fire yesterday

[split lance]

no i didnt :(

i mightve tbh

but i wasnt trying too

[marble crater]

Actually I have no idea, I don't have a scoreboard

[late sapphire]

Purg doesn't use ammo of course it has to be weaker

[gritty ether]

TBH what I want is for weapons that apply burn to instead apply Soulblaze on Psyker.

[nocturne dust]

(he did, don't worry)

[split lance]

i do

ill check

actually i dont need too

[nocturne dust]

But I want a build that does both

[split lance]

ik i was doing top smg

dmg

[vernal temple]

lol just noticed that the free paintjobs still have the og staff names

[nocturne dust]

I want to apply burn and soulblaze

[split lance]

so yeag

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[split lance]

i stole it

[marble crater]

[summer prairie]

top steal dps is first shriek for 1 stack, wait purg to get it up to 15-16 and then shriek again

[nocturne dust]

Sadly, there's no good way to do both DoTs

[split lance]

i shriek like 3+ times a fight

[summer prairie]

I've also played havoc yes

[nocturne dust]

Best we got is probably recon lasgun + shriek

Also, actually good fire sword when

[split lance]

i shriek like 3+ times a fight in mael too

[marble crater]

@split lancedid you still make it to 40 yesterday?

[split lance]

no

were at

39

[marble crater]

What's the map for 40?

[split lance]

1 try left on 39 iirc

[marble crater]

Ah

Better don't lose, or else it's that map again

[nocturne dust]

map changes

Modifiers don't

[split lance]

it doesnt

we got

gloriana

at lest

4x as my 38 map

[nocturne dust]

Maybe you just rolled unluckily? It definitely changed the first time we failed 3 in a row

[split lance]

yes

[summer prairie]

it does

[split lance]

we think todays update mighta fucked it

cux we definitely got gloriana 4x

we couldnt beat it

lmao

[marble crater]

37 was archivum both times
38 was gloriana both times
And that was only the short time I was there

Gloriana modifiers were different though

[nocturne dust]

lmao, they switched what doesn't change?

[summer prairie]

doubtful

actually I even saw someone get demoted yesterday and get a different map next time

[marble crater]

maybe just unlucky and confirmation bias, but it's a bit suspicious

[split lance]

these are all havoc 38

all the glorianas

[nocturne dust]

maybe you in particular are broken

I wouldn't put it past Fatshark

[split lance]

actually maybe not the last triple loss

the 3rd image

[quartz barn]

What part are you guys stuck at

Or just the mission in general

[split lance]

bc there are 3 wins after so maybe not that 3rd pic

but the rest yes

so got gloriana 3x

[split lance]

just couldnt get passed the ffirst event

[marble crater]

But then we did

[split lance]

yes we did

omg

wanna see my insane cluth

clutch

[marble crater]

Getting to and through the first event was such a pain

[quartz barn]

Getting to the first event isnt bad if a zealot uses chorus to push the monster off the edge

But tbh first event being rng with the charges is wack

[split lance]

our zealot did not do this

the captains are easy

but that fucken beginning was so unlicky

[quartz barn]

Back left literlly requires the team to collapse on it with mass cc

And then you can all camp back right where you respawn when you die

[summer prairie]

turn on true peril value

[split lance]

i earned blowing up at the end

[marble crater]

That first shield popping was way too close for comfort

[quartz barn]

My premade zeal did this every run, same for the section near the end

Makes it infinitely easier

[split lance]

ill tell zealot to do this

i kinda wanna try zealot

looks comfy

[quartz barn]

I guess glubby can be a pain, but you can bait him around the scaffolding

[split lance]

and i hear its the easiest

[nocturne dust]

It is

[split lance]

kill elit e

hit f

repeat

[quartz barn]

Or you trivialize glubby with bubble

[split lance]

like 90 times

oh and kill monsros

[nocturne dust]

All you do is sit in bubble and hit things that get close to the psykers

[split lance]

monsters

[nocturne dust]

and press F

and smack monsters

[split lance]

i wanna do zealot for a run

but we can get to 40 first

bc what if im bad

(im going to be bad)

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I think you should play a little more zealot in aurics

[split lance]

book zealot in a mael was very easy

very comfy

[nocturne dust]

The fact you were going down before psykers tho

in auric

[marble crater]

You can't be worse than the zealot I had in 27 yesterday, ran ahead, netted, died, rage quit

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

tbf

i was using knife

and am bad in general

so

[nocturne dust]

Knife is actually a super safe zealot weapon imo

The speed makes it so easy to just survive endlessly

[split lance]

im just bad

lol

i run into a group of elites

and i get maybe 2 kills

[nocturne dust]

That's why you need practice

[split lance]

and that frustrates me immensely

yeah

i agree

i just havent done aurics

[nocturne dust]

Although tbf Zealot does have a hard time on auric competing for kills with a good team

[split lance]

at all

yeah

ill lyk if i do any aurics with a good teak

team

[marble crater]

Play Evis 15 with shred and perfect strike, stunlock all the elites and slowly kill them

[split lance]

no

marty zealot with ds4 is nice too

[nocturne dust]

Well, it won't be a good team as long as there's a tren.

[split lance]

Fax

It’ll be a great team

[nocturne dust]

Hey

[marble crater]

Like this pro gameplay

[nocturne dust]

You right

[patent wing]

what a time to be back

[nocturne dust]

I tried to record my matches today, I dced like 8 times

[split lance]

https://youtu.be/3zVNX8OacAw?si=JbFPFtccTGPIpanQ

[patent wing]

so which great forcesword are we using

[split lance]

My knife zealot is bad bad

[nocturne dust]

but Steam decided to record something I had in the background

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[summer prairie]

both good

[split lance]

Use shadow play. It’s what I use

[nocturne dust]

I tried to set that up and Nvidia wiped my Darktide settings 😭

I had to reconfigure everything

[split lance]

Ooooh. You gotta turn that off in GeForce hub

Or whatever it’s called

[nocturne dust]

idk how

[split lance]

I don’t let nvidia control my game settings

[patent wing]

blessings?

[nocturne dust]

wrath, [preference]

[split lance]

Uhhh you go to the main hub and just make sure optimize game or whatever isn’t enabled

[nocturne dust]

some like to drop wrath because of warp splitting

I use wrath + shred personally

[patent wing]

u mean warp slice

[nocturne dust]

no

Warp Slice is a terrible blessing and in no way replaces anything

Warp Splitting, the talent that boosts cleave, can replace Wrath, the blessing that boosts cleave

[marble crater]

Not even using stealth as a knife zealot

[nocturne dust]

although I don't really think Warp Splitting does, but also I don't manage peril enough for it to

[split lance]

I want them to know I’m coming

[nocturne dust]

FotF Knife Zealot is actually super

[marble crater]

But it's not the full zealot experience

[nocturne dust]

also bible knife used to be really stupid because of crit recharge, but they fixed that

[marble crater]

How did they fix that?

[nocturne dust]

They changed the crit recharge talent

It now is a duration buff for ability cooldown %

so atk spd doesn't do anything as long as you crit enough

which is what they should've done with true aim and mettle, made it so things were more even rather than nuking them entirely on slow weapons

[marble crater]

so it should also feel better on evis again, or is that still worse than before they changed that the first time?

[nocturne dust]

no clue, I wasn't there for the first time

......probably

or I'm misremembering

[marble crater]

First change was crit hit change to crit attack, I think. So instead of counting for each enemy you hit it only counted once and that made knife a lot better with the higher attack speed and evis worse because the cleave didn't matter anymore

[nocturne dust]

oh I do remember that

Yeeeaaaahhh, it should be back to being good again I think

They basically buffed all weapons to be on a level almost as high as knife

(and nerfed knife slightly in the process)

[marble crater]

That's good, maybe I will play some evis choir boy in havoc later

[nocturne dust]

which is what THEY SHOULD'VE DONE WITH METTLE AND TRUE AI-

I'm still mad

[marble crater]

First we need mettle working again

[nocturne dust]

Just unnerf it

[marble crater]

That would probably also fix it, yeah

[bold cape]

your zealot has A NAME

[split lance]

What

[bold cape]

also i didnt know you could do that

good to know

[split lance]

Oh

I just now understood

Our zealot was a bitch

[bold cape]

!!

yeha our psyker was a bitch

specifically

the one named harold

[radiant frigate]

first time playing havoc with 2 book

and it has just been the easiest havoc i have played so far

[split lance]

On god

Fuck that guy

He touches me every night

[marble crater]

[bold cape]

WHAT

ljkasudflkajsdufn

this wouldve been valuable information the 4 times we lost on that map

tho tbf everytime we lost was after that bit

mostly

[quartz barn]

Know the room right before the elevator at the end?

The section where you walk up some pipes

You can do the same thing there

Both monster spawns covered

[marble crater]

Would have been, yeah I thought you know

[bold cape]

nah i never used book
ever
until like 2 days ago

[quartz barn]

?