psyker-class

[radiant ice]

"Oh and lightning, zap"

[ripe obsidian]

They mance your bio

[strong gulch]

Shocy poop

[radiant ice]

Bubble and Smite are Biomancy abilities

[strong gulch]

zappy turd

[radiant ice]

Scriers Gaze is a Diviner ability I believe

Soulblaze is from the Pyrokinetic stuff

[strong gulch]

I see I see

[radiant ice]

They're all established abilities in 40k RPGs and such

Long before Darktide

[strong gulch]

Might need to rename one of my psykers.

[radiant ice]

Point is, they only added the 20% of Biomancy that verges on Not-Biomancy

[strong gulch]

Or make a 4th one. 🥴

[frigid meteor]

Shoutout to a random Pysker named Tryanus from the Mourningstar
who helped me complete my last penance with brainbursting 50% hp of a boss. I owe you

🥹

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/count-dooku-christopher-lee-star-wars-gif-23719747

[timber cairn]

same boat

[split lance]

My zealot is a lore accurate zealot

Evangeline

[radiant ice]

I mean Psykers even have to wear collars, we’re the perfect healer class

Where’s my damn heal spec Fatshark

[split lance]

I’ve found out too much about dom in a matter of seconds

[strong gulch]

Tell me the lore.

[restive stag]

get on bubble rn

[marble crater]

Run away and get netted. The end.

[split lance]

I looked up “order of the martyr lady” and picked a name

Idk the lore

But I know there is lore

[timber cairn]

Healing Specs:
Vet = Throwing Medkit packs at people's faces
Psyker = Possessing fellow players and assuring them that everything is fine
Zealot = Hitting fellow players with scripture until they get better
Ogyrn = Carrying fellow players around in one hand, swinging a axe with the other

[radiant ice]

I’d let her net me

[silver mantle]

My zealot was a cadian, a fuardsman

Went nuts after the fall

[split lance]

Please tho I’m begging you. Be my healslut

[marble crater]

Tren has concepts of lore

[silver mantle]

Listening to his compatriots last words

[split lance]

We can have matching pfps or whatever

[silver mantle]

Got heavily into drink and drugs

[radiant ice]

I would if we could heal!

[split lance]

On marvel rivals. Silly !

[radiant ice]

Oh I don’t like superhero stuff

[silver mantle]

Gains schizophrenia (from excessive drug usage), the emperor talks to him and says cadia stands forever in the afterlife

Is now a zealot

👍

[radiant ice]

I was a Mercy main in OW1 though

[split lance]

[split lance]

Pls. I’m begging

I’m cracked. I’ll carry you to victory

[radiant ice]

A boy can beg, it takes a real man to whimper

[split lance]

I’m on my knees

It hurts really bad

They’re really fucked up

[restive stag]

you gotta heal his knees

cmon

you gotta

[split lance]

Please

Charlotte a real one

[restive stag]

well of course i am you saved my son from a burning building and let me borrow your lambo

[split lance]

And don’t worry about the 50k you borrowed. You don’t gotta pay it back

[zinc phoenix]

go to zealot chat 😡

[split lance]

I went. There’s nothing in there

[radiant ice]

Real Biomancers are the healers of 40k, Zealots are angry men with sharp sticks!

[zinc phoenix]

beating the health into someone seems very 40k

[radiant ice]

Fatshark are Clownfish for not letting us heal

[ripe obsidian]

Back when I played League, probably like 7-8 years ago, I was a Thresh main. Aggressive support.

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/clownfish-swimming-pattern-gif-6276083513117344440

[restive stag]

HEY

sometimes theyre blunt sticks

[radiant ice]

I was Soraka main

I also remember liking Neeko for toplane for a bit

[ripe obsidian]

Neeko was after my time

[radiant ice]

I didn’t play much myself

Didn’t like LoL

[ripe obsidian]

I started playing League in like beta or something when I was in university

Stopped around season...6? I don't know

[radiant ice]

I think my biggest thing is SWTOR

[sturdy reef]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3375980903

[radiant ice]

My Sith sorcerer healer has like 4k hours of playtime

[sturdy reef]

Not sure if this has made the rounds but this guide is nice

[ripe obsidian]

ESO and Runescape were the only MMOs I played, and I played RS like a single player game

But I was a Pretty Good tank in ESO. I did also do a bunch of single-player content like the Elite Vasharn or whatever it's called

Problem is, MMOs kinda suck if you have no friends who play them, and my friends all play primarily single-player stuff

[upper sun]

anyone down for VIDEO GAMES?

[radiant ice]

I had a Necromancer healer Argonian in ESO

She was the best, I miss my lizard days

[unkempt patio]

Lusty argonian maid huh?

[radiant ice]

Only if the tank was good

[unkempt patio]

I played the fuck out of Star Wars galaxies but that came out in like early 2000s

[ripe obsidian]

Keeping with the theme of ridiculous characters, I made my tank as short as possible, balding, and with a beer gut. This little wannabe dwarf was charging headlong into battle.

[radiant ice]

I loved that too

Then the Jedi update happened

I can’t express how big of a Star Wars nerd I am

I learned the Sith language

Spoken and written

[unkempt patio]

Jump to lightspeed launch was peak and still one of the better space games ngl

Star citizen was supposed to fill the void but instead I rest

[ripe obsidian]

Question: why do folks not take Wildfire on Havoc purg builds?

[radiant ice]

I own a lightsaber that cost me £1k

[silver mantle]

Will the force free you?

Or does it become new chains

[radiant ice]

Peace is a lie

[silver mantle]

nuke malachor 5

[radiant ice]

The cake is a lie; there are only cookies.
Through cookies I gain weight.
Through weight I gain obesity
And in obesity my chair is broken.
The calories will set me free.

[radiant ice]

Wildfire is great but sometimes point constraints

[sturdy reef]

Who?

[ripe obsidian]

AgentChaos and Dominaya thus far. Pygex does take it.

[sturdy reef]

I do too

Its still worth it

[restive stag]

yeah but like if youre doing anything that applies soulblaze to anything the stagger is great

[radiant ice]

I love Wildfire but I feel it’s better in non-inferno staff Soulblaze

[restive stag]

i would disagree alot

[radiant ice]

In Inferno Staff I prefer the extra 5% crit node I take

[ripe obsidian]

Stagger?

[clear heath]

since when does wildfire stagger?

[restive stag]

it staggers in its radius when it applies soulblaze

[near wyvern]

If you only flame one direction, sure. But if you want to effectively flame two ways, wildfire is the jam

[restive stag]

i dunno

but it does now i guess

least last time i checked

[radiant ice]

Turn around while firing, fivehead

[restive stag]

helps a ton with purg staff

[ripe obsidian]

I do not think that is the case

[radiant ice]

Oh it does, just not as much as it helps a Trauma Soulblaze

[restive stag]

oh then yeah i agree with that

[near wyvern]

Yes but when I come back I start racking up from 4 instead of 0. Only need to hit a couple seconds to get a kill amount of stacks

[radiant ice]

If I had 31 talents points, I’d 100% take wildfire in my Havoc build

But unfortunately I have 30 xD

[ripe obsidian]

I just tested. 100% does not stagger

[restive stag]

i honestly wish i could use trauma soulblaze but trauma staff on lag feels not good

[clear heath]

it's just relatively less important on inferno when those 4 stacks can be built in barely any time anyways

[radiant ice]

You could always drop the crit aura in my Flames of Havoc for one of the others and take Wildfire, that’s perfectly fine. Or drop the single Crit node

[upper sun]

you can take the crit node from my cold dead hands

[radiant ice]

Same tbh, as I said it’s mostly due to being 1 point short

Cause Wildfire would absolutely be my 31st pick on the Flames of Havoc build

[acoustic isle]

We love spreading magic ghost fire

[radiant ice]

Outside Havoc I prefer wall, and feel two charges unnecessary. So could also swap bubble to 1 wall and save a point, get Wildfire that way

Havoc gunners are far too overtuned for wall right now though

I do feel overall that Darktide would be cooler if we had 35 points

Or even 32

[restive stag]

32 would be nice

[radiant ice]

30 always feels 1-2 short of perfect

[clear heath]

If we had 32 i wouldn't need to make decisions anymore

would just have everything

[radiant ice]

We’re power crept to all hell anyway

May as well xD

[ripe obsidian]

I see that you also do not use Kinetic Flayer in your builds, which is a contentious topic in this chat

[radiant ice]

Kinetic Flayer is top tier on Inferno imo

Especially combo with Perilous Combustion

[ripe obsidian]

This is the Pygex Purg build

[latent hill]

What’s kinetic deflection again…?

[radiant ice]

No Soulstealer?

[ripe obsidian]

Peril on block instead of stamina

[ripe obsidian]

I already don't use soulstealer

[latent hill]

Ohh that.

[radiant ice]

I do know most people drop Essence Harvest but damn, I love it and will always champion it as heavy underrated

[latent hill]

🙄

I be an idiot

[radiant ice]

In Fire Reborn means a new charge every 5-10 seconds in a fight at worst

[latent hill]

And I almost always take that too…

[radiant ice]

With ER it’s reduced to 20%

And it’s not insta delivery, it ticks

Meaning outside Havoc it’s infinite Toughness grace

In Havoc it’s still constant regening toughness at an alarming rate

[marble crater]

We have too many acronyms

[ripe obsidian]

I think Jsat used Essence Harvest for his duo Havoc 40 build.

[clear heath]

jsat's build is weird though

[radiant ice]

Essence Harvest is one of my top tier perks, and heavy underrated

[clear heath]

he also has crystalline will

[radiant ice]

But then again my builds typically have a slight weird spin

[ripe obsidian]

I feel like he could do it without any talents. Guy's a lunatic.

[latent hill]

Urgh… head smooved

Need a dumbed down explanation of this

[ripe obsidian]

We're debating minmaxing of build trees

Not that it really matters much

I'm sure any of these builds is perfectly fine

[radiant ice]

Yeah, and again Auric optimal builds are totally different from Havoc 35-40

[ripe obsidian]

You can be sillier in Auric

[vapid sparrow]

not even a single point to improve the blitz

[radiant ice]

I’m way more confident in my Havoc builds, I don’t think what I run in Auric is anything different than anyone else

[ripe obsidian]

My meleeker cleans up in Auric and gets bullied in 20s Havoc

[clear heath]

just melee better

[ripe obsidian]

tbh shouldn't be using BB often in havoc. Should have teammates killing those high value targets at range

[ripe obsidian]

I'm trying. But bullets are faster than swords.

[silver mantle]

Watching his rocks is wild

[vapid sparrow]

there are so few scenarios where bb is worth using

[silver mantle]

On the 3 ogryn run

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't watch that one yet

I'm debating dropping Kinetic Flayer for Warp Battery. If KF is ~7% more damage, but Warp Battery is 8% more (when it's up) and 15% faster bubble, it might be worth it.

I know KF is really helpful for popping melee elites who got too close

But the consistent damage feels more useful

[clear heath]

the real problem is if warp battery is up

[radiant ice]

I literally saved your ass twice with BB in havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Did you?

[radiant ice]

BB is GOATed

I saved one of you book boys

[clear heath]

if you're using abilities frequently, you might not have 6 stacks often enough to care

[radiant ice]

Popped a sniper half a sec before it fired and a trapper that snuck up on them a second later

[ripe obsidian]

Maybe it was me? I don't remember

I choose to believe I was the better zealot, so in turn I choose to believe it was the other guy. >:(

[radiant ice]

BB is decent, Kinetic Flayer is insane on Inferno

[ripe obsidian]

But I was also pushing pretty aggressively with book, so maybe I got caught out without realizing

[radiant ice]

I love BB

I have a pure BB casting build for Standard fun

[ripe obsidian]

Assail > BB > Smite in my preference. In terms of power I know smite is the strongest, but it's so boring

[radiant ice]

BB > Smite > Assail for me in gameplay
Smite > BB > Assail for lore reasons

Cause I’m a lore nerd and know the Psyker schools xD

Assail is extremely effective don’t get me wrong

Just boring and annoying when it wants to write your name in cursive before hitting the sniper zoning on you

[cold bramble]

Hope you don't mind me interrupting, but I need some advice for good weaponized schizophrenia builds, I tried Soulblaze, but wasn't having too much fun with it. Any ideas for builds that still allow me to get in the fighting good without having my shit be pushed in?

[radiant ice]

Melee or magic?

And what mode/difficulty?

[cold bramble]

Ideally both, but preferably melee on difficulties above Heresy

[ripe obsidian]

Problem is, I want KF, EE, Warp Battery, and Wildfire, but I only have 2 points to allocate.

[radiant ice]

Any preferred weapon?

[radiant ice]

That’s why I end up dropping Wildfire

As you asked earlier

[split lance]

what staff

[ripe obsidian]

Purg

[radiant ice]

It’s an 8/10 perk, I have several 10/10s

[ripe obsidian]

I don't use EE on trauma

[split lance]

havoc or non havoc

[ripe obsidian]

Havoc.

Non-havoc I do whatever

[split lance]

i just had to be sure

[cold bramble]

Force and duelling swords

[radiant ice]

I’m being dumb, EE?

[split lance]

somme ppl wildin

[radiant ice]

Oh Evasion!

[ripe obsidian]

Empathic Evasion

I only use it on purg

[radiant ice]

Take Evasion for Inferno Havoc

Definitely

Drop One With the Warp on Havoc

[split lance]

btw u dont need it if u have 2 bubbles

[radiant ice]

It allows you to get bubble, cause OWTW is pretty bad with 60 Toughness on Havoc

[split lance]

what

ee

[ripe obsidian]

If I have 2 bubbles I'm probably using Trauma

[split lance]

gives bubble

[radiant ice]

EE leads to bubble

[split lance]

i meant if u and someone else

or

2 other psykers with buble

[ripe obsidian]

I use purg + EE if I am the solo psyker, otherwise I'm probably on trauma

[split lance]

might make or break the run

[radiant ice]

Can you share a screenshot of your build so far?

[split lance]

im the complete opposite, i use trauma if lone psyker

[ripe obsidian]

This. Which is AgentChaos's build tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOkz8gRiOIA&t=4s
From this video.

[split lance]

i couldnt imagine not being able to stagger as hard with as mucch dmg

[ripe obsidian]

Just with EE instead of an extra toughness node

[split lance]

oh uts different here than what he posted before

[ripe obsidian]

I mean, I've done multiple havoc 40s with this build, so it's not like I'm having trouble succeeding

[radiant ice]

So you're looking kinda like this?

But with OWTW instead of EE?

Cause I'd make that swap personally

[split lance]

i wouldnt

[near wyvern]

EE is not needed for Havoc, you should be bubble maxing anyways

[split lance]

toughness is health

[split lance]

bc as soon as ur health gets touched is over

[radiant ice]

EE is insane in Havoc, with Inferno staff

I disagree with you hard there

You are always critting

It's near perma range immunity

[marble crater]

5 different psykers, 10 different builds which are only different by 1 talent

[near wyvern]

With 100% bubble uptime I don't see the need for EE

[lone ravine]

Allowing you to save your dodges for melee

[clear heath]

bubbles break

[ripe obsidian]

As I said earlier, it doesn't really matter that much

[radiant ice]

[split lance]

put up another one

[near wyvern]

My record is 3 up

[split lance]

when i run bubble im putting up like 3 per fight

[lone ravine]

When your teammates decide they don’t wanna shoot any gunners so your bubble pops in 2 seconds

[split lance]

when i get to run surge/shriek im shrieking like 3 times a fight too

[near wyvern]

Pick a better spot for bubble, no need to make it in the middle of the room

[split lance]

CDR on my curios

[marble crater]

At least it's a change from the mk6 vs mk8 debate

[radiant ice]

I'd personally use one of these 3 variants based on personal pref

[ripe obsidian]

Both are good. Pick the one you prefer.

[radiant ice]

But that's just my opinion

[latent hill]

EE… is that the toughness gain on crit?

[split lance]

dodge on criy

crit

[lone ravine]

Ranged dodge on crit

[latent hill]

Oh

[ripe obsidian]

1 second of dodging ranged attacks on crit

[latent hill]

That.

[split lance]

thats mettle

[radiant ice]

1 second of immune to ranged damage

[latent hill]

And this is with what

Inferno staff?

[near wyvern]

Toughness regeneration on warp charge is not needed, you are living a bubble anyway

[split lance]

ok what u gonna do the 4 sec that theres no enemies and there are shooters

[radiant ice]

Essence Harvest is top tier, I disagree 😛

[near wyvern]

Outside of havoc, yes it's good. For life in a bunker, too much overlap

[ripe obsidian]

Mettle works on Purg RMB again. Still borked on Trauma RMB

[split lance]

ive been runnning mettle this whole time

[radiant ice]

Sometimes especially in pugs you have 3 dillberts who run away from your bubble and you're forced to as well

[split lance]

never noticed if it was messed up or not

lmao

still gonna run it

for melee

even tho i barely pull out melee

[split lance]

just done

dont

let them die

[ripe obsidian]

Actually, no. Mettle is still borked. Never mind.

[radiant ice]

But then you're alone in Havoc and they're a 3 coherency

[near wyvern]

Then you place an other one. I use full battery, CDR on curios, CDR aura and PA. So many bubbles ready to go.

[split lance]

live long enough theyre all spectating you and blow urself up

truly anger them

[near wyvern]

It's nice for captain spanks

[split lance]

i genuinely do not understand how ppl can not run cdr on curios

whats so important that you cant use it

i need to kniow

know

[radiant ice]

The Psyker Athenium recommends Toughness Regen Speed over it

[near wyvern]

For regular, not havoc

[radiant ice]

Or Gunner Resist/Sniper Resist

Which is wild as all 3 suck

[clear heath]

sorry bro 7.5 hp is too important. people cannot survive without it, it's impossible...

[analog agate]

I don’t use it. Cause I haven’t bothered to swap from my auric curios lol

[split lance]

over cdr?

im still taking it in normal auric

[split lance]

[radiant ice]

Same tier as flamer and bomber resist apparently

[lone ravine]

Do people actually run any of the other dmg resists?

[near wyvern]

Makes very little difference in regular play outside of EP Smite

[split lance]

ive literally never looked at it

[radiant ice]

I have so many hard disagrees with it

It's a good guide but damn some choices baffle me XD

[split lance]

but i also dont agree with the builds there as i feel they tailotr to newer players

they require a certain play style that i dont like

imo ofc

[radiant ice]

Wait

[radiant frigate]

who says corruption resist is a bad perk

[near wyvern]

That because people head straight to the table and don't read the text

[split lance]

but the way i play is hyper aggressive

[radiant ice]

You wrote this Pygex? I only just realised

[near wyvern]

Yes

[radiant ice]

I don't mean to trash your guide XD

[near wyvern]

And am in the process of writing it

[clear heath]

speaking of the text in the athenium, pygex explain

[near wyvern]

Curios have long been a hot debate

[split lance]

if you ever catch me not runnning cdr

its not me

[drifting elk]

i do. its bad

[ripe obsidian]

Purg only gets Mettle on the first hit of RMB. Not any subsequent hits

[near wyvern]

I got comment bombed at one point for saying gunner resist is not needed (long time ago). I had to literally record a clip of myself escaping from 10 gunners with no gunner resist to shut the people down.

[split lance]

good enough

[ripe obsidian]

Which is weird, because EE does pop for each RMB crit, not just the first

[split lance]

lol

i started uploading to yt

[radiant ice]

Yeah gunner resist is trash XD

[split lance]

im gonna put really hot takes in my descriptions

[lone ravine]

Gunner resist enthusiasts when I crit once:

[ripe obsidian]

I like my 2 gunner resist.

[near wyvern]

It's not really needed but now that they move it can be somewhat useful if you get caught with your pants down

[ripe obsidian]

Anyway, @near wyvern, I am more curious about your opinion on Kinetic Flayer. I can understand both sides of the argument about EE.

[near wyvern]

Curios are such a long debate and have been for a long time. They don't really make that much of a difference outside of Havocs.

[acoustic isle]

We been getting so many "post receipts" callouts with this mode it's hilarious

[split lance]

jokes on you, my pants were never on 🗣️ 🔥

[strong gulch]

It's still messed up. Something something only the the first crit of the RMB can replenish toughness. I can't remember the exact thing.

Infinite cleave and Quietude make up for it tho; plus bubble in Havoc.

[split lance]

thats me constantly

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I just tested it and posted a clip of it being borked.

[split lance]

not bc i caare but bc i love shit talking

[ripe obsidian]

And I am pretty sure Mettle just doesn't work at all on Trauma RMB

[strong gulch]

Basically.

[lone ravine]

Don’t come back from your next mission, don’t even step foot on the Valkyrie

[split lance]

im going to touch nurgle himself

[acoustic isle]

Personally i dont really mind one way or the other. The thing that is always funny about ARPG elements (action rpg for those who don't know) is behavior has a big play in builds too

[split lance]

bon bons run away from me

[acoustic isle]

Though coming here to see peeps go nuts with the math an interactions has been great for me

[lone ravine]

God emperor… slannesh would be jealous of this man

[split lance]

id touch slaanesh too

im not trying to be her champion

im trying to replace her

[near wyvern]

Kinetic Flayer should be a guaranteed proc, then we could talk about it. 15 sec plus the random thingy you often get it on something not so useful.

In terms of Inferno users which people glorify KF for, I advise strongly against KF with inferno as LMB on inferno is safe for pushing pox bursters hiding in horde but they gotta get into regular push range to get pushed back.

I have had KF pop one on my face multiple times when trying to push them with LMB.

Why not go for a regular push? Because the 6 maulers and their 10 rager siblings demand some attention as well.

[split lance]

KF is goated

i love 2 for 1 shots

[ripe obsidian]

Fair reasoning. Would you move a point from KF into Wildfire or Warp Battery?

[split lance]

freee early kills that cause a snowball effect

[clear heath]

@near wyvern explain yourself https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1315913789044035604/fgs_ragers.mp4?ex=675b1df7&is=6759cc77&hm=34d3a951a6964539b7d3bec33033540c5537b4526da7f3bff0fed5bc06c712fc&

[near wyvern]

For havoc, definitely battery. For regular, wildfife. If you have to choose

[ripe obsidian]

I enjoy KF as well, but I want to try a couple different builds.

[patent mango]

mk6 is so good too

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you. I want wildfire as well, but I am not sure what point I want to move to get there.

[split lance]

all my builds have KF lol

literally every single one

[near wyvern]

Check move set. That text talks about regular swings. I have listed the rager combo on mk 6.

Was on day 2 of release

[radiant ice]

If I haven't forgot anything, this is my curio opinions

[acoustic isle]

Honestly yeah

[near wyvern]

"A bit of trouble" refers to the fact that you gotta be prepared for it

[acoustic isle]

Combat ability regen is always goated lmao

[split lance]

cdr is s... all i gotta see

good shit

[radiant frigate]

not liking gunner resist is kinda insane imo

but to each their own

[acoustic isle]

12% cdr from all 3 curios

[radiant ice]

It's an utter crap noob trap

[acoustic isle]

It goes a long way

[jaunty tiger]

I agree with this

[split lance]

i just kill the first 🗣️ 🔥

[near wyvern]

Toughness regeneration speed also reduces the delay, you would be surprised how much you get from it. Especially since paykers tend to keep enemies at bay.

[thorn cedar]

not how i psyker

[radiant ice]

No grace makes it's useless in Havoc, way too easy to regen any other way make it useless in standard

[jaunty tiger]

Literally wouldnt change anything except maybe stam regen to A

[thorn cedar]

im really just a blue zealot tbh

[jaunty tiger]

Maybe

[radiant ice]

That's fair, this is Psyker focused and they already have super high regen so it drops to B for me

[acoustic isle]

I take it these are the 3 perks specifically not the blessing

[jaunty tiger]

I understand the placement tho

[near wyvern]

That's not what Grace means. No grace means you don't have the 50% damage reduction immediately after your toughness breaks.

[radiant ice]

Def blurry on A/B and A on other classes

[jaunty tiger]

Corruption resistance is more important

[radiant ice]

I know

[jaunty tiger]

So stam like low A or high B yea

[radiant ice]

But then stacked against Health and Corrupt Res on Havoc or Health and Toughness on Standard...

It def leans more towards B, but probably the highest B

[radiant ice]

Yeah just perks

[near wyvern]

This is what I recommend for Havoc

[radiant ice]

Standard / Auric I'd say either:

Toughness, Toughness, Toughness
Toughness, Toughness, Stamina
Toughness, Toughness, Health
Toughness, Health, Stamina

Are all acceptable for the blessings. Havoc just take 3 Healths

3 Toughness in Havoc is wild

That's 20 whole Toughness

[acoustic isle]

Honestly there is a part of me that wants to just farm curios on zealot until i have all +3 stamina curios on them. Then i put +2 stam on double barrel.

And i just run

[near wyvern]

I have a big disclaimer that the table is for regular play but as I said people go for tables and don't read even if it is with letters the size of your thumb

[radiant ice]

That's what I have on my Zealot atm on book build XD

Havoc for me is:

Health, Health, Health
.
.
.
.
Health, Health, Stam

Anything else is insanity

(On Psyker)

[jovial gust]

@near wyvern could you explain the Illisi part please?

[near wyvern]

You can run 3 toughness but you need toughness from talent nodes

[jovial gust]

Forgot to send the screenshot

[radiant ice]

That's a lot of investment to die in one hit regardless

[ripe obsidian]

I have Tough/Tough/Health

[near wyvern]

You have optimal combos for if you are allowed to use peril and if you are not allowed to use peril

[radiant ice]

That's amazing in Standard but it's just not good in Havoc imo

[icy wind]

is there a way to change crosshair

[ripe obsidian]

Is working fine for me thus far

[clear heath]

I also have tough/tough/health in havoc

[jovial gust]

That's how it is written for all marks of all melees, but the Illisi has so many combos listed

[radiant ice]

Try 3 health's and report back, I assure you it will be better

[acoustic isle]

The issue ultimately is the extra toughness in practice is nearly pointless

[icy wind]

also after several gameplay of psyker using shriek or whatever that is and after much thinking I'm confident to say that anything that is not shield/bubble is D tier and shield/bubble are S tier

[acoustic isle]

The damage output is so high it's practically no difference

[radiant ice]

2 Toughness Curios in Havoc amount to like 14 Toughness in 35-40

Less than an unbuffed node in Auric

[marble crater]

I think staff crosshair doesn't change with the in game options, with a mod probably yes though

[near wyvern]

Well, spamming heavies allows enemies to hit you if you are not careful so there are safer combos at the cost of DPS

Ideally you go for only heavies, but at times you gotta play on the safe side if it is only you against the horde and you don't have a BONE'ead to hold them down for example

[jovial gust]

What is Firestarter meme and Bloodthirsty Horde then?

[near wyvern]

@radiant ice let's be real, toughness and health are both shit, you get hit twice and you die. The main difference is that health also makes you less affected by corruption

For havoc that is

[radiant ice]

Uhuh, and 35+ is goo, tox bombers and pox gas central

And because it's not like +20 if you commit all 3, you can survive Crushers and Snipers

It's both bad, but one is "bad" one is "useless beyond belief"

[near wyvern]

Stagger, suppression, stuns and knockdowns are your best defence in havocs. Outside and within bubble.

[timber cairn]

double bubble makes toughness worth something

still not working stacking any sort of toughness curio

but it makes the vanilla toughness do some work

[icy wind]

should I buy?

[timber cairn]

no

mobility is important. Warp resistance isn't.

[quartz barn]

???

pf moment

[icy wind]

what if other melee doesn't have warp resistance

[hollow current]

Precogition blessing seemingly has an interaction with the GFS crit slash special but not the non crits.

[clear heath]

well the projectile never weakspot hits

[near wyvern]

Let me throw a counter argument here. In Darktide, if you have 100% toughness, it will reduce the HP damage of the next attack by 100% if it is not an overhead attack. If you have 50% you take 50% of the attack to your HP pool.

If you have 60 toughness or 80 toughness, but the enemy attack does 100 damage that +20 achieves absolutely nothing. Getting hit will put you to 0% toughness so it will take the exact same amount of time to get back to 100% reduction again.

On regular gameplay it's a bit different cause you can easily stack toughness high enough that you will walk out with non zero % of toughness from a single hit. In that case more toughness means you need to regenerate less % so you do get faster up to full reduction.

[jovial gust]

Then buy from Brunt's Armoury until you find a melee with warp resistance

[jovial gust]

@near wyvern I would love to know

[clear heath]

idk i get hit by projectiles that don't 100% deplete my toughness from time to time. The toughness isn't useless

[icy wind]

I mean like

what if the melee doesn't have the warp resistant

like it's something else like

first strike

or whatever

[jovial gust]

Then buy more melees

[jaunty tiger]

First target is the single most important stat for dmg on any weapon that has it

[lament coral]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9db397a8-685a-4d00-a147-422fe8a080e7/try
Hey, could somebody give me feedback on this build?
I threw this together and want a few opinions so i can improve it.
it´s meant to be a scriers gaze loop build that works over soulblaze/crits
features the new weapon for psyker because i think it´s neat.

[jaunty tiger]

So no

[near wyvern]

Firestarter meme is when you go for blazing spirit. You grab shred or pop gaze and go to town.

It's a meme because blazing spirit procs after the crit, so in order to light them on soul fire they need to survive the crit. Often they don't.

Bloodthirsty horde is for the special spam illisi sword, it's s safer combo compared to pure special heavy spam, the light attack when it crits still deals a lot of damage and using that avoids taking chip damage yourself. Optimally if someone is there with you you can just spam special and heavy.

[radiant ice]

I'd remove the last perk on each Curio and drop the wound one

[jaunty tiger]

Take the crit talents

On the right side

[radiant ice]

Toughness, Toughness, Health would serve you better

[jaunty tiger]

Mettle and perfect timing

[marble crater]

Depends on the melee then, for many it's defense instead, for dueling sword 2 and 4 it's cleave damage for example

[near wyvern]

Hard disagree, it's equally important with the damage roll since it is a multiplier on the damage roll.

[radiant ice]

You've also gone for a crit based staff without crit talents

[jaunty tiger]

I mean that I have tested 0 dmg and 0 first target with 80 on everything else

[jovial gust]

I will just take the FGS

[jaunty tiger]

Almost always you lose more dmg with 0 first target

[radiant ice]

And no Psykinetic Aura

[orchid cedar]

How the hell do I use the force greatsword special (the wave attack)

[jaunty tiger]

Loadout mod is convenient

[upper sun]

i would dump warp resist instead of defence on force great sword
and either go flak carapace, or blaze away nexus with the current purge set up
and id drop the wound for hp or stamina
and i would do the reverse of the start of the build

[clear heath]

activate it and then swing

[jaunty tiger]

I mean obv you want both at 80 though

[orchid cedar]

It just empowers the sword and sometimes after a second it randomly casts the wave

Do I have to have both bars filled up?

[near wyvern]

But the point is a bit meh cause you can always afford to have 80 damage 80 first target

[clear heath]

it just fires when you swing

if you get hit, you lose the empower

[jaunty tiger]

Yeah this advice is more in the context of old crafting lul

[orchid cedar]

Oh alr

[clear heath]

so if it failed to fire, you probably got hit

[jaunty tiger]

Nowadays you just want everything maxed

[orchid cedar]

Yeah probably

Thanks

[near wyvern]

Treat it as a stagger tool

[orchid cedar]

Which mark is better and what are the meta blessings and perks?

[orchid cedar]

Yeah alright

I'm still just like a lvl 14 Psyker

[jaunty tiger]

I like 8

Both are good though

[near wyvern]

8 has better horde clear and crusher combo, 6 has a bit easier time with ragers

[orchid cedar]

Do you just heavy spam?

[radiant ice]

Here is some of my suggested ammendments while trying my best to keep the build identity you went for. instead of overriding it all with my own opinions https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9db39cb3-cf98-4ac5-97a0-eaff6277122b/dragon-tweak

[near wyvern]

And 8 has easier access to the poke after springing or wielding

[acoustic isle]

Honestly both are generalist you could say they're good at switching between elite and horde clear

[near wyvern]

Check Atheneum for the movesets

[acoustic isle]

Really which one you pick is decided by which move set you prefer

[orchid cedar]

Oh y'all got an ogrynomicron lol

Alright

[upper sun]

its better

[near wyvern]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[radiant ice]

(I'd argue ours is more debated, but then again Psyker has much less "this is objectively right" in it's tree design)

[bold cape]

6 is the better one imo
heavy overhead into stab is chefs kiss

[radiant ice]

It's a solid guide

[bold cape]

optimal clear is 3 lights heavy repeat but can just light spam and be fine

[clear heath]

mk6 special into stab is so nice too

[upper sun]

@near wyvern can u explain the logic behind this tho?

[jovial gust]

The FGS MK 6 optimal combo set looks like it was designed by an insane asylum escapee. Which tracks for Psyker

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-techpriest-binaric-screeching-screeching-gif-20192683

[bold cape]

oh no

[radiant ice]

I like the guide but that table hurts me

[upper sun]

same

i run 3x hp toughness and combat ability

[bold cape]

i think i have 2 toughness 1 stam on all classes other than ogryn

[upper sun]

no i mean perks

[bold cape]

o

[radiant ice]

Here much more readable, this is my perk choices

[upper sun]

i have 1 stam 1 hp and one toughness

[bold cape]

i usually run 3 stam regen, 3 toughness and 3 cdr

[clear heath]

I don't know how you could put block eff on B while also not liking KD

[radiant ice]

I don't like KD

It is a great perk

[upper sun]

block eff goes on ur sword

[clear heath]

clad pls

[upper sun]

BLOCK GOES ON THE SWORD

[radiant ice]

I can seperate personal opinion from fact 😛

[jovial gust]

Budding Gunker build. Suggestions?

[clear heath]

I don't think block eff is good on specifically psyker, because we have KD

[near wyvern]

Faster to 100 means more frequent mistakes allowed. Reduces also delay.

[clear heath]

we have such excessively good blocking that it doesn't really matter

[jaunty tiger]

but then you can drop KD

[radiant ice]

There are builds where it really shines, it's certainly the lowest B of the bunch

[jaunty tiger]

!!!

[upper sun]

its coherency only tho

[radiant ice]

But it's not a C

[jaunty tiger]

unironically i dont usually like taking KD

[radiant ice]

Block Eff on Psyker is at home on B, cause it's definitely a way better choice than any of the C's or below

But certainly not an A or S

[bold cape]

i like to go burst/smite to get psykinetics aura but i dont ever use my blitz
i also always use cdr aura

[clear heath]

would rather have gunner res than block eff

[jaunty tiger]

gunner res is a meme in both auric and havoc imo

i would change my mind

if it affeceted trash mobs

but it doesnt

[radiant ice]

tbh I find both Block and Sprint Efficiency B/C, with Stam Regen an A/B

But that makes all of them a B imo

[lament coral]

Hey, i just wanted to say thanks for all the feedback.

[upper sun]

gun resist is not needed on staff psyker because of the 293232 range or the 232323 crits (EE)

[jovial gust]

no

[radiant ice]

You are correct, Gunner Resist is meme bad and I'm done with pretending otherwise

[bold cape]

i think gunner resis is a trap for new players
many ways to deal with them or escape them with dodge slides and such

[radiant ice]

Unless it affected your average trash gunner, which would make it a solid A

[jaunty tiger]

yeah if it affected trash i would 3x on every curio in havoc

[clear heath]

gunner res is still a more impactful perk than a lot of things.
People acting like 7.5 hp from hp perk is a lot

[jaunty tiger]

since those guys are beeg dmg

[bold cape]

[dense flume]

What's typical dump stat on staves?

[jaunty tiger]

it helps vs standing in green shit

[echo root]

Warp res

[radiant ice]

Warp Resist, unless Voidstrike then Blast Radius

[clear heath]

How many seconds do you think it gets you per game?

[bold cape]

also taking the node that quells peril and reduces it in melee will net you 30 scriers every time
assuming you’ll be spending lots of time in melee with it

[clear heath]

probably not even a full second

[jovial gust]

Name?

[clear heath]

a full set of hp perk probably doesn't get you a second

[jaunty tiger]

you'd be surprised

how often

you end up being forced to fight on top of green shit

[dense flume]

Oh really? I figured that'd be a good one. Is that bc the gain is so small?

[jaunty tiger]

yea ideally you have space to just back up

[bold cape]

it’s one of the 3 new ones, next to warp splitting
it’s called crack of bone i believe

[jaunty tiger]

sometimes you dont

beacon removes the corruption but you still lose hp

[clear heath]

no but like how long does it take to use up that 7.5 hp that the perk got you?

Like it gets depleted instantly

[jaunty tiger]

on the green shit?

[radiant ice]

Yeah the blast radius on Voidstrike is barely any different from 60 to 80, like maybe a pixel

[clear heath]

How much time did it buy you?

[jaunty tiger]

its a relatively slow drain

[radiant ice]

Voidblast, do not dump blast radius XD

[bold cape]

i hate how they changed the names

will never not call it trauma staff

also changed the mark names on other weapons

[jaunty tiger]

i think the bigger question is

what would you run instead

[bold cape]

confused the hell out of me when i got back into the game lmao

[jaunty tiger]

maybe stamina (my opinion) but

cdr/corruption resist/???

[clear heath]

7.5 is just such a small amount
The amount of hits or time spent in corrupting pool it gives you is probably 0

[jovial gust]

Why do you start Optimal Single with Push Attack, why do you have to dodge specifically to the left in the Crusher combo?

[radiant ice]

It's never 7.5

[clear heath]

a perk is 7.5

[radiant ice]

Cause who doesn't take the 10% extra HP node

[upper sun]

just ate shit in a hot drop siblings

[clear heath]

they're additive

[bold cape]

i prefer mk6, better elite killing chain and no push attack required to get the stab

[clear heath]

And before anyone asks, all of the hp modifiers are additive. Even the havoc penalty is

[jovial gust]

Not enough Mastery

[radiant ice]

But anyway, 22.5 HP is perfectly amazing on Psyker

[bold cape]

i think you get it at like
3

[unkempt patio]

This confused the fuck outta me when I installed the game and started reading random guides and watching a few YouTube vids

[bold cape]

which is one game probably

[jaunty tiger]

i hesitate to say amazing but i dont see a better option besides stamina

sprint eff is not that important since you're not speedrunning through the map sprinting everywhere like in auric

[radiant ice]

I mean on Havoc

I don't take +hp on Standard/Auric either usually

[clear heath]

would rather take gunner res and have 25% more time to react to getting shot by a gunner

[radiant ice]

Gunner Resist is meme bad

[jaunty tiger]

you dont react to getting shot at by a gunner

because you are already dead

unironically

[clear heath]

I've definitely survived getting hit by a gunner before

[radiant ice]

I'd rather Purple Curios with a missing slot cause at least it saved the Diamantine than take Gunner Resist

[jaunty tiger]

vs gunner in havoc is a matter of positioning

[bold cape]

if only gunner resis worked on non elite gunners

[split lance]

hi

[bold cape]

hi

[radiant ice]

hi

[clear heath]

hi

[marble crater]

hi

[split lance]

can i throw anyones games?

[clear heath]

maybe in 4 hours

[unkempt patio]

This guy fucking ruined it

[split lance]

ill ruin you

[jaunty tiger]

sure

[lone ravine]

goodbye

[bold cape]

im waiting for atlas to ping me or w/e

[jaunty tiger]

ill give you my copy of uncharted that came with my ps4

[radiant ice]

Words I wished I'd hear from Khorne

[jaunty tiger]

you can throw it wherever you'd like

[upper sun]

ok fuck this

game ignored my ult

[bold cape]

waow

[split lance]

i msged him like 2hrs ago and he never responeded

[jovial gust]

Oh. Someone on the design team is a clown

[radiant ice]

Get the mod for that

[split lance]

ill ruin you too

[upper sun]

no it worked

but dog didnt push

[marble crater]

I will ask for help with my lvl 26 havoc later, I am on my last attempt and don't want to risk pubs again

[radiant ice]

lmao

[jaunty tiger]

dodging left is at least bc they fall down/recoil towards the right

so dodging left for easier access to stab their face

[bold cape]

spam him
surely whatever life business he may have is unimportant

[split lance]

if u wanna run some lmk

lmao

FAX

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/no-you-so-funny-dog-dog-gif-21465432

[split lance]

YOU GET IT

[radiant ice]

Clad's dog last game ^

[upper sun]

Yes

get atlas

[unkempt patio]

Stop it Tom before you get excited

[upper sun]

i need to throwmaxx

[clear heath]

skill issue

[bold cape]

ill do it better than you guaranteed

[upper sun]

@clear heath lets go

game up

WOW

[clear heath]

i am at work

working from home today

[marble crater]

[clear heath]

forgot to close game

[upper sun]

:eyeo

well u remember now

close it

ur wasting gpu power

[clear heath]

if you're awake in 4 hours, i can play

[upper sun]

lmao

prolly not

@bold cape lets go

[radiant ice]

I don't think you can compare, have you seen the new LL for Khorne in Total War? He's interesting for... reasons!

[cold trellis]

What blessings and perks do you play on trauma?

[upper sun]

crit flak blazing spirit nexys

nexus

[cold trellis]

Ty!

[radiant ice]

Either that

[bold cape]

i just woke up
getting food

[radiant ice]

Or Rending Shock + Warp Flurry for non crit builds

[upper sun]

wow

[split lance]

im stronger

[upper sun]

eating

couldnt be me

[bold cape]

yeha

didn’t eat yesterday

have to not die

[radiant ice]

But do you have a 2ft tongue?

[upper sun]

cigs and energy drinks for me

[bold cape]

you’re already dead

[upper sun]

EVEN IN DEATH I STILL SERVE

[unkempt patio]

I’d be shaking

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't realize toughness is borked compared with health.

• Health Reduction mutator apply after buffs (from curios for example), but only affect your base Health amount.
• Toughness reduction applies before buffs happen, thus will reduce the effect of toughness increases

[unkempt patio]

And here I am the size of 3 normal people

[upper sun]

lemme wipe in another game just to really warm up

[split lance]

no and my pp is small

[bold cape]

im like 100 pounds so maybe more

[split lance]

im 3 of you

im about 300 rn

tryna get to 330

[radiant ice]

Pegging for Khorne then, no lube. Khorne cares not from where the blood flows, only that it does

[unkempt patio]

I’m 290 so real close

[ripe obsidian]

Hot.

[bold cape]

im 5’2
built small

[split lance]

PROMISE?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[split lance]

light weight

[bold cape]

holy

[unkempt patio]

I’m 6’3” and 290. Built like a thumb

[bold cape]

where do i sign

[unkempt patio]

And not in a good way

[radiant ice]

Yup, Toughness is better by far in standard, but Health is way better in Havoc

[upper sun]

all of you need a cold shower

[split lance]

im 6'2

ur taller

im built like a

uhhh

idk

a fat guy that lifts

[bold cape]

im throwing my auric build straight into havoc

no regrets (there will be throwing)

[split lance]

if u dont have bubbel dont

[radiant ice]

I'm 5'7" and 119lbs, I barely fill a chair

[bold cape]

im running zealot

[unkempt patio]

I don’t lift. I haven’t seen my wiener or toes in the shower in years

[split lance]

if u dont have book dont

[split lance]

same

[bold cape]

get fucked

[split lance]

so smol

[ripe obsidian]

I'm 5'8" and like 150lbs. I'm pretty distinctly average. Well, maybe EU average, not US.

[upper sun]

nah you need a shield plant only ogryn

[split lance]

im doing curls with about yalls weight

how about i just use yall instead

[bold cape]

but seriously relic blade without the fotf atk speed increase sounds aids

[ripe obsidian]

Buy me dinner first.

[clear heath]

actually had one of those in a high havoc game

it wasn't very good

[split lance]

no you buy me dinner

[upper sun]

im like 86kg

[ripe obsidian]

You're the one who wants to curl me.

[bold cape]

ha
metric

[split lance]

light weight

ill curl you too

[radiant ice]

I'll fold you instead

[split lance]

i can curl up to 102.5kg

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/brawl-fight-battle-punch-hit-gif-13275732

[upper sun]

you can not curl 190lb

[ripe obsidian]

I do not understand.

[split lance]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718659850065936425/1240437390892466277/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_4.gif

[split lance]

ive curled 225

[radiant ice]

See gif

[upper sun]

damn

[split lance]

i think its more than 225 but less than 230

[ripe obsidian]

That's not very kind

[split lance]

whatever 102.5kg is

[upper sun]

no momentum preacher curls?

[split lance]

i cant do preacher curls

my arms quite literally do not bend that

way

[upper sun]

🤔

uhhhh

[split lance]

db or barbell

and no

i hip thrusted that mfe r

[upper sun]

fam i think you are just too tall for the machine

[split lance]

but i do strict 150s and shit

[bold cape]

should i build another weapon or smth
im running relic + bolter atm

[split lance]

wait till you hear how i have some of the strongest grip in the world

wait

now its not funnt

[thorn cedar]

hey those arent psyker weapons

[split lance]

funny

[thorn cedar]

you fraud

[split lance]

bc you said talk

[upper sun]

wanking?

[split lance]

[bold cape]

sorry i like the people here more

[radiant ice]

Too much chicken choking

[split lance]

no im serious too

lmao

[split lance]

well yeah definitely

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-chicken-bro-choke-gif-14109594

[split lance]

but thats not whyu

[upper sun]

every day is wrist day

[thorn cedar]

competitive wanking

[upper sun]

but unironically

[split lance]

OH MY GOD

[upper sun]

wrist and forearm exercises are pretty useful

[thorn cedar]

absolutely (me who doesnt exercise at all)

[split lance]

so my telegram got hacked and i didnt know for a long time and i opened it up the other day and it was some indian dude with IMMENSE, LIKE PILES AND PILE OF p0rn

[split lance]

i got into lifting you

young

[upper sun]

hell yeah

[split lance]

and i gravitated to grip really hard

[upper sun]

not me

hell

i havent been since covid ended

[radiant ice]

Why do you even have Telegram? Are you Russian, drug dealing or a sexual deviant? Or some mix of the three?

[split lance]

clad ill turn you into a shredded shark

[upper sun]

🚬

[split lance]

just the 3rd one

im mexican

never done

drugs

but horny

WAIT

[upper sun]

my best hexbar deadlift is 320lb

[split lance]

I CANT FIND THE GIF

[upper sun]

and i could take it into shrugs

[radiant ice]

Most people on Telegram are

[split lance]

its the cat with its tail out

[split lance]

thts why i stopped using it lol

[marble crater]

Most people are Drake?

[split lance]

hell yeah

[stark wave]

is there a steam guide or spreadsheet for all havoc related staff jank yet?

[radiant ice]

A few friends used to use it to get coke, but I always thought you should put community and small business first, and support your local dealer

[upper sun]

you know whats the worst part about going to the gym tho

[radiant ice]

[upper sun]

the fucking laundry

[split lance]

go trauma bubble, its hard to mess up after that

[upper sun]

the socks the towels the shorts

[split lance]

or purg bubble

[upper sun]

it never ends

[split lance]

but trauma stronger

[upper sun]

😭

[split lance]

bro actually sucks so much

im a powerlifter, do you have any idea how bad my knee sleeves smell

[marble crater]

[radiant ice]

Smelly sleeves are a common side effect as you get older, don’t worry about it

[split lance]

i get home and if i dont shower immediately i cant be around people anyway

[warm cloud]

[split lance]

i dont get it

[radiant ice]

In seriousness though, people who don’t shower after gym scare me

Trying to summon Nurgle in Tesco is not appropriate

[upper sun]

tbh

[split lance]

i dont always shower immediately after

[upper sun]

showering at the gym doesnt make me feel clean idk why

[split lance]

,my gym doesnt have showers

[upper sun]

its like their water is metalic or someshit

[bold cape]

probably cause it’s a public shower

and that’s icky

[split lance]

but we have a hose so we put on small shorts and have fun

i mean

i shower at home

[stark wave]

who else pisses in the gym shower

[upper sun]

im not that squeamish i dont care

[radiant ice]

I mean yeah nothing beats home shower, but you gotta at least rush home for that

[upper sun]

if no one is looking yeah

[radiant ice]

Not today, Nurgle!

[split lance]

my gym is like a 30-45min drive from home

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/not-today-satan-i-dont-think-so-whatever-gif-20393045

[split lance]

if theres no traffic tho

literally 15min

maube even 10

[radiant ice]

I used to train 2-3 hours five days a week for kickboxing/mma

[split lance]

no not 10

but 15-20

[radiant ice]

And nobody wants the fishy grapple

[split lance]

i used to wrestle

[radiant ice]

Chemical warfare is a bad

[bold cape]

i don’t exercise
my metabolism is so high i eat like shit and am still skinny

[split lance]

so id be on the mat 4-6hrs a day

my skin

hated me

[lone ravine]

yo same

[split lance]

im going to nerd out and say, fast/slow metabolisms dont exissty

and they never have

you might have a day where you eat more and another where you eat far less

[radiant ice]

Wait till you hit 25 and that vanishes

[bold cape]

pls no

[split lance]

so ur weekly caloric intake is more than likely a lot less bc of inconsistency

[split lance]

mfer read the msg above

what happens with age

is you just start moving less

thats it

cals in cals out

[radiant ice]

I used to eat like 7 meals a day and did some modelling as a side gig

When I hit 25/26 I wanted to cry

[split lance]

anyone that tells you different is stupid

[bold cape]

im stupid

[split lance]

agreed

[bold cape]

glad we can agree on something

[split lance]

i mean tho

theres literature supporting what im saying

no literature supports fast/slow metabolisms as a thing

[radiant ice]

Oh yeah I agree

[split lance]

its literally 'cals in cals out' and lifestyle choices

[radiant ice]

Truth is I’d eat 7 meals one day then nothing for 2 days

Thinking about it

[split lance]

yeah

[radiant ice]

And my exercise level was insanely high

[bold cape]

yea i eat a lot of shit food and don’t eat at all some days

[ripe obsidian]

I usually eat like 1 meal a day.

My medicine kills my appetite

[split lance]

so ur weekly intake as probably 6k cals and 2k came from that one day

or something liek that

[radiant ice]

Yep

[split lance]

this is why i stopped antidepressants

[bold cape]

@lethal lagoon where

[split lance]

they made me nnot wanna lift

[radiant ice]

Same

[ripe obsidian]

I need them. Otherwise I have worse problems.

[split lance]

and squatting is more important to me

so for me

good choice

[bold cape]

tho
even on hrt im still not gaining weight

[split lance]

im still depressed but thats not fixable bc it has to do with goalds

[radiant ice]

That’s not for everyone, if your E is already elevated chances are it won’t make a big difference

[ripe obsidian]

My mental health issues are all hereditary.

[split lance]

hormonal weight gain is a thing BUT again its bc your more likely going to become lazier and eat more

stuff like that

[split lance]

samesies

[ripe obsidian]

Funny thing, I'm the most mentally healthy in my family. It's a low, low bar.

[bold cape]

meant as in im a trans woman

[split lance]

but it just turned into me being depressed im not lfiting enoough

and ya know what, that works for me

[radiant ice]

Oh I got that, but if your base E was on the high side, raising it further won’t have as noticeable effect for those who had low E base

[bold cape]

ohhh ok i see

sorry lol

[split lance]

frog pfp tells me everything i need to know

also were in a 40k discord

no one apart of 40k is oka y

[radiant ice]

This is not a safe space

[bold cape]

true

[split lance]

especially not with me around

ill touch a mfer

[radiant ice]

Uwu

[ripe obsidian]

Is that so?

[split lance]

yes

[bold cape]

i got chased out of a vc in space marine 2 for being clocked as trans lol

[split lance]

tells me you gotta get touched

[ripe obsidian]

?

[radiant ice]

Ew

[split lance]

i mean it tells me you need a hug friend

[ripe obsidian]

That's fucked.

[radiant ice]

Transphobia and homophobia is not welcome

[split lance]

[ripe obsidian]

Ah. Thank you

[split lance]

[bold cape]

group hug

[marble crater]

Only if everyone took a shower

[bold cape]

[split lance]

i showered last night

2nights ago

[bold cape]

haven’t gotten the chance to yet today
woke up and instantly opened darktide discord
am i cooked

[marble crater]

You two can hug each other then

[clear heath]

unfortunate
I'm taking away your gamer card

[bold cape]

i smell good dw about it

[marble crater]

I worry

[bold cape]

my bf says i do so it has to be true

[marble crater]

Clearly biased

[ripe obsidian]

It's weird to me to consider how crappy people can be. I tend to immediately cut people out of my life who are shitty, so when I run into that kind of behavior in the wild I am slightly stunned.

[bold cape]

:(

[bold cape]

yea it took me a long time to figure out id be better off without all my irl friends from high school

[marble crater]

People can be assholes, even bigger ones over the internet

[bold cape]

idk what people ever got out of being dicks

[ripe obsidian]

In truth? It's feeling like they're better than someone else.

[fiery stratus]

Sad personal fulfillment

[bold cape]

then i get hit with the occasional “oh dw you’re one of the good ones”

[ripe obsidian]

I don't want to go into politics, but that's why movements about acceptance and equal rights are often scary to certain demographics. The only thing they have is being better than the Cultural Other. If you take that away, then what do they have?

It's a pretty common trend throughout all of human history.

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/9150190-if-you-can-convince-the-lowest-white-man-he-s-better

But I am going to stop talking about this topic now.

[bold cape]

definitely don’t want to talk about politics here but id like to share one of my favorite quotes as well