psyker-class

[unreal wasp]

W o o o o, Warp Knight with bistol

[broken carbon]

depends if havoc debuffs also decrease regen speed from coherency

if they don’t

then yah

it could be very good

[nocturne dust]

they do additively by... 40 or 50% iirc

[broken carbon]

oh

[nocturne dust]

at Havoc 40

[broken carbon]

then

i don’t think it would be

[nocturne dust]

you still can outstack it though, and with Zealot or Vet and the low toughness cap.... maybe cool?

Talents might be out of the way though

[zinc phoenix]

Not go, stacking raw hp and toughness matters way more

Because going down is death and death is bad

[nocturne dust]

Well sure

but nobody mentioned wounds

[zinc phoenix]

Also everything must be sacrificed at the altar of cooldown reduction

[nocturne dust]

You have 3 sets of substats

[zinc phoenix]

Health, toughness, cdr

[nocturne dust]

No corruption resist?

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-gif-26070434

[zinc phoenix]

Purity aura all the way

Don’t need to resist what isn’t there

[nocturne dust]

Purity aura helps a lot but it doesn't cleanse all immediately

[zinc phoenix]

Sure but the goal is avoid the truly bad modifiers because you will die 😂

We did it with blight and no gas and it was fine without corruption resist

But the end event we were all standing in a puddle of goop because there was nowhere else to be and in that particular instant I would not have minded corruption resist 😂

[nocturne dust]

Face the gas

Face it

[zinc phoenix]

Still two med bags and purity aura goes very far

[nocturne dust]

[zinc phoenix]

Nein!

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-game-hades-game-thanatos-death-gif-18948482

[split lance]

I ALWAYS run more cdr. No matter what

Idk how people can survive without it

[nocturne dust]

easily

[split lance]

Lemme rephrase

Idk how anyone that refuses to let go of “w” live that like that

Who doesn’t love more dmg

More dps = more ded

More ded = not always a mission win

😡

[zinc phoenix]

It’s too bad there’s not a bonus title for no downs at 40

[nocturne dust]

That's essentially what true survivor is, I haven't heard of any large difference between 35 and 40

[zinc phoenix]

I mean fair, I don’t know how it works

[ripe obsidian]

I ran Zealot for the first time in havoc. It seems my role is press F, and in between pressing F hit things to get F back sooner

[nocturne dust]

iirc, all modifiers max out at 35

or is it 30

something like that

[radiant ice]

35

This is 34

[nocturne dust]

"What is my purpose?"
"You spam book."
"Oh my god."

[radiant ice]

You did good!

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/butter-robot-gif-21973199

[radiant ice]

You'd be amazed how many fuck up spamming book

[ripe obsidian]

It's pretty easy to do, though

[radiant ice]

Was a pretty smooth game in general

[ripe obsidian]

Press F when no yellow HP, press F and walk at people shooting at you, press F when the crusher crew shows up

[zinc phoenix]

Yep that’s basically the job

I bring a bolter to snipe things and throw bullets at the boss

[ripe obsidian]

I was using Flamer

Bolter would be better for specials, yeah

[zinc phoenix]

Flamer is also good and popular

[nocturne dust]

I prefer flamer, it's when stacking with Inferno staff

[ripe obsidian]

I might try DS4 instead of relic blade. Not really sure what melee to use. DS4 is more comfortable

[zinc phoenix]

DS4 is definitely meta

[analog agate]

I was running mk2 heavy las. Not sure if i liked it more than X for havoc

[nocturne dust]

I like thammer for monster murder

[zinc phoenix]

Everyone I see at 40 has a ds4

[ripe obsidian]

I literally have not played Zealot since before the class got access to DS4

[zinc phoenix]

The combo of evasion and hitting power is just unmatched

[ripe obsidian]

So I don't have one built

[zinc phoenix]

Same 😂

But if you do a lot of meleeker it is basically the same experience but easier and with fewer tools

[nocturne dust]

Zealot is the stabby class

Use your stabby

don't switch to other things if you can help it

[zinc phoenix]

I have a tendency to play it like vet 😂

So I shoot more than most

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the meta is such that shooting is often more efficient

but like, idk, play Vet at that point? 🤷‍♂️

[zinc phoenix]

That was my answer

[strong gulch]

@split lance and I were trying out zealot last night. I just ran around confused.

[zinc phoenix]

I got all the fancy penances done and then stopped playing it

[nocturne dust]

I don't have any class penances done except Psyker

[lone ravine]

how?

[nocturne dust]

I have some on the others, but not all of them is what I mean

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve done all of psyker and vet, vast majority of zealot and ogryn

[nocturne dust]

I've only done all of psyker

[lone ravine]

oh

[split lance]

That’s also what I did

[ripe obsidian]

Any idea what perks/blessings for Zealot DS4? Uncanny/Riposte and Carapace/Unyielding?

[zinc phoenix]

I like the new penances, they do a good job of showing the design logic of the classes

[split lance]

That’s what I did

[zinc phoenix]

Sounds right to me

I think I did flak over unyielding tho

[analog agate]

Cole runs shred + riposte

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-we-one-gif-18212100

[nocturne dust]

I still use Uncanny/Thrust

[zinc phoenix]

BC I don’t like stabbing bosses too much

[split lance]

Literally. I saw elites. I RAN to them

[upper sun]

thrust precog on zealot

[nocturne dust]

Thrust is actually really good since a lot of your attacks on DS4 are going to be 'opening moves' you can precharge

[upper sun]

mixing that with duelist is giga damage

[zinc phoenix]

His builds require a lot of effort to understand, very subtle use of mechanics

I am not nearly so good a build maker 😂

[strong gulch]

Anytime I saw a boss, I ran at it and got bapped away.

[nocturne dust]

me with thammer

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve gotten used to meleeing bosses other than BON but my preference is always gonna be to shoot it

[strong gulch]

I'm gonna have to make another DS.

[nocturne dust]

I wish I could shoot the range resistant bosses in Havoc but for some reason they're range resistant

[radiant frigate]

many such cases

[zinc phoenix]

I suspect they’re gonna unleash more party finder centric content

[lone ravine]

raid event mode fr fr

3 hour long game

[zinc phoenix]

So I really wanted the mastery titles for it

[patent mango]

cannot escape party finder

[zinc phoenix]

The intro to the cathedral mission heavily implies multiple party content

I really like havoc forged and true survivor because you can’t get them with altf4 cheese so I’m not lumped in with the assy majority 😂

[nocturne dust]

When party B and C fail and you can't carry

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[ripe obsidian]

I still need True Survivor.

[zinc phoenix]

That’s why it’d be awesome!

[nocturne dust]

😭

[zinc phoenix]

It’s a white knuckle affair holy jeebus

[ripe obsidian]

I almost got it on my first game at 35+

[zinc phoenix]

One guy played for like 10m with 1 hp

[ripe obsidian]

We had one down

[zinc phoenix]

I am super hype to just chill in the low teens murdering shit and talking smack 😂

[ripe obsidian]

I plan to do the same to earn the penances

Once I get True Survivor, at least

[nocturne dust]

You'll have to hard carry the newbies tho

[lyric hatch]

so they ever going to fix the electro staff mastery

[nocturne dust]

no

[zinc phoenix]

The hardest part is genuinely the party finder 😂

And I know you guys know what I mean

[patent mango]

i still find it hilarious i got rejected from an [all welcome] party

[nocturne dust]

I don't because all my havoc has been self-hosted

[radiant frigate]

fucked up how force greatsword is not particularly good for havoc

[nocturne dust]

Does it auto-reject if you fill up?

[patent mango]

idk

[spiral condor]

Agreed

[nocturne dust]

agreed, it should have 100% more speed

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. It's rough.

[patent mango]

i just want ranged units to not be absurdly overtuned

[radiant frigate]

i think it's also stupid how you can get "we accepted your signup!!" popups mid-mission and they just go in the foreground

like thanks

[zinc phoenix]

I feel like the low 20s is the right level of ranged lethality

[radiant frigate]

i have heretics to kill

[zinc phoenix]

They’re extremely dangerous and you have to respect them

But not so dangerous that the entire meta revolves around them

[radiant frigate]

i have not gone beyond low 20s

[nocturne dust]

only thing making the gamemode difficult tho

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah shotgunners are making me shit my pants in terror 😂

[radiant frigate]

i want Not All Defensive Ults to be viable too

[patent mango]

i feel like its gonna kill the gamemode idk

[nocturne dust]

I think the gamemode just needs to enable other hyper-specific setups.

It already tries with the ranged resist.

It fails, but it tries.

[zinc phoenix]

I think if they keep shaking things up with new modifiers people will keep coming back

[nocturne dust]

New Modifier: 100% peril all the time

[zinc phoenix]

But like there’s no way I’m going into high 30s again except to help someone

Is just not fun

[nocturne dust]

Update: Fatshark gives premium currency but only if you're at Havoc 40

[ripe obsidian]

Dying to a single volley from a single shooter isn't fun? Say it isn't so

[radiant frigate]

the nefarious singular scab shooter

[patent mango]

help!!! help me!!!!!!!!

[nocturne dust]

"Will someone please help me up?!?!"

[radiant frigate]

"Not one bloody word, you hear?"

[ripe obsidian]

"No, Beloved, I don't think anyone's coming."

[radiant frigate]

"If you let me die, I'll haunt you forever!"

[zinc phoenix]

That’d get me in there once a week maybe

I am extremely cheap 😂

[nocturne dust]

Do you get demoted if you fail low havoc enough times even if you're in high havoc?

[zinc phoenix]

Only if you are hosting

Or a leaver

[versed pendant]

sucks if your computer just crashes

[zinc phoenix]

Meh it’s just your host level

If you don’t wanna host anyway it’s not a big deal

[uncut wedge]

How to make my melee psyker tankier i seem to be unable to survive most things and the sole reasons i made psycher was melee

[zinc phoenix]

Learn to block, move, position and dodge such that you don’t take damage

[versed pendant]

git gud

[uncut wedge]

Thats not making me tankier tuo

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is about preventing damage, not absorbing it

[modest perch]

If you made a psyker just to melee

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-youregonnahaveabadtime-gif-25708112

[nocturne dust]

because meleeker will never be tanky

[zinc phoenix]

It in fact makes you by far the most tanks

Gotta move like the prince with a thousand enemies

[uncut wedge]

Its not avoiding damage and tanking damage is different although I thank you for the tip none the less

[nocturne dust]

Psyker has unmatched ways to actively manage attacks. Kinetic Deflection, Empathic Evasion, Anticipation, high toughness regen

[prime elk]

And then me tanking the entire Moebian 6ths gunners by smacking things

[nocturne dust]

But if you actually take damage a lot, you're going to have a bad time

[uncut wedge]

I have no clue what any of those are

[zinc phoenix]

Basically you want to crit a lot to trigger empathic evasion so bullets can’t hit you

[prime elk]

That explains

[zinc phoenix]

And you want to use kinetic deflection so that melee hits you block can’t stop you

And instead feed your damage

[strong gulch]

I think they are, but we all have to "get gud". It's not me. I'm not gud.

[zinc phoenix]

There is no amount of gud that can survive havoc 40 without defensive ults

No way

[strong gulch]

Better stam gen too.

[lone ravine]

yea you start regaining stamina so fast

[strong gulch]

Plus psyker is used to being "squishier". Not as squishy as havoc ofc lol.

[nocturne dust]

I bet some mad lad will solo it with nothing but a rusty knife

[uncut wedge]

Thats the block yes?

[strong gulch]

Yeah, I tried zealot (non-havoc) and felt so winded the entire time.

[zinc phoenix]

Also we’re just straight cooler, better looking and smarter than the blunts

[rich spindle]

Weave in assails almost constantly to get toughness on warp kill

[analog agate]

https://youtu.be/P__4L3Xc2qY?si=REaxKZSNmSZbzB0w

[nocturne dust]

You want to run stamina stuff on non-psyker, generally.

[zinc phoenix]

Now that’s some fuckin skill

[prime elk]

Tbf melee Psyker is a bit harder to play well than staffker

[nocturne dust]

at least imo, the stamina substats on curios help a lot

[spiral condor]

This helps a ton for helping managing toughness between charging between groups of enemies

[uncut wedge]

I use smite for the heby buff

[zinc phoenix]

Quietude is your true meleeker toughness source tho

[prime elk]

Don’t do this

[prime elk]

Mettle

[strong gulch]

Yeah. I had some, but I might put a stam curio on. I just never pay attention to stam management.

[zinc phoenix]

The peril -> crack -> quietude pipeline for toughness is next level

[prime elk]

Quietude is a good backup though

[zinc phoenix]

Esp when you have the quell blessing on weapon

[uncut wedge]

Why?

[zinc phoenix]

Your toughness gen massively outmatches zealots when cleaving hordes if you want it to

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, Psyker builds real bad habits for stamina management

Me when I forget I can't block everything forever

[prime elk]

You’re better off straight up just meleeing them than trying to dance between smite and heavies. Higher dps.

[lone ravine]

what do you mean i cant just spam push and block dodge my way through an entire horde?

[uncut wedge]

I really only use smite for the charged strike seemed to be the only melee related one

[rich spindle]

This sounds like cope but I watched this video and it looks like these guys just got lucky with shooter spawns. Not once did I see gunners or reapers spawn in an awkward far off position that couldn’t be immediately reached

[lone ravine]

that talent gives like 50 dmg?

[prime elk]

If you’re running fgs best off going full right (taking assail)

[zinc phoenix]

They probably had to do a bunch of runs to get that win but it’s still mega impressive

[strong gulch]

I agree, but I have heard people say the opposite. I think those people just haven't gotten used to just don't jive with the resource management.

[prime elk]

FGS really shines with a full right build

[strong gulch]

THIS

[prime elk]

Staffkers that are transitioning

[uncut wedge]

I dont know its stats i only made a psyker foe the fgs

[zinc phoenix]

Mk8 fgs is the most fun I’ve had with a melee weapon ngl

[rich spindle]

I did 1mil damage with 900k overkill damage with right side FGS

[zinc phoenix]

It does basically everything I want

[uncut wedge]

Ikr

[prime elk]

Same. It’s so addictive

[uncut wedge]

Should I go toughness or wounds?

[zinc phoenix]

The mk6 is a lot better in some scenarios but the mk8 with correct combo usage is just so nice

[uncut wedge]

For curios

[zinc phoenix]

Wounds is always the wrong call

You want to learn to not need them

[prime elk]

Yeah it’s setting yourself up for failure

[lone ravine]

also sometimes you just die without the chance of being saved, so that extra wound means nothin

[prime elk]

Because in that slot you could be taking a defensive curio

And it makes green stimms way worse

[clear heath]

also kinda makes corruption worse in havoc

saw a corruption heal zealot with 5 wounds
couldn't heal his own corruption cause the corruption went past the wounds

[rich spindle]

Speaking of. What are u guys doing for havoc curios

I’m going 3 corruption resist

2 tough 1 hp

Was thinking of 3 hp

[proper osprey]

All toughness

No need for that res I’d go gunner

[uncut wedge]

Besides toughness whats a good blessing? Deflector doesnt seem to be working much =3=

[rich spindle]

Corruption pools and gas are almost unavoidable for me

[uncut wedge]

And how does thr force block work?

[prime elk]

HP until above 200, rest into toughness

[strong gulch]

The only thing I'm confident in is CDR. I've also stacked corruption resist and idk about gunner resist ( I have it).

[spiral condor]

Why 200?

[clear heath]

burster breakpoint

[prime elk]

And sniper

[strong gulch]

For non-havoc play yes.

[prime elk]

I feel like hp is even more important in havoc

[clear heath]

for havoc i just give up on worrying about sniper breakpoint
the bubble or chorus zealot will save me

[strong gulch]

IDK how that transfers over to high havoc with the extra corruption and things just shredding you.

[prime elk]

True

[clear heath]

if a sniper shoots me i'll just accept my death

for havoc i still just go with a mix of both toughness and hp

[patent mango]

remember to take grim res to havoc

[prime elk]

I’m prob going to just stick with my normal curio setup

[clear heath]

you could make the argument that hp curios are relatively more valuable in havoc because the havoc penalty multiplies with toughness curios, but is only additive with hp curios
but playing on extremely low toughness is also unplayable imo

so i still mix both anyways

[zinc phoenix]

Everything should go into hp, toughness and cooldown reduction. Resist won’t make a difference because 20% less fucked is still fucked

Corruption shouldn’t be an issue because you should have a beacon of purity zealot

[jaunty tiger]

I take corrupt resist still

[strong gulch]

Unless you've been collecting curios for awhile, it's a big ask to have a whole separate set for havoc.

Some people who've played for a long time still haven't been able to get max curios.

[jaunty tiger]

Even with beacon it still eats your hp

And there's those fights

That you're stuck in goop

[rich spindle]

The thing is though the corruption still takes away that hp

[jaunty tiger]

And there's not much you can do abt it

Thats why I have it

Also reduce poxburster dmg which is nice

Quite significantly

[strong gulch]

IDK why we still have to play mega rng for curios.

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah my h40 true survivor run the group got stuck in a mega goop pile at the escape door from the smelter waiting for it to open 😂

[prime elk]

I think they forgot

[jaunty tiger]

Yea it happens on smelter a lot

[prime elk]

Or just don’t care lol

[jaunty tiger]

I noticed

Goop fights

[patent mango]

gotta keep the gambling addicts fed

[jaunty tiger]

They are particularly dangerous so I don't mind corruption resistance to prepare for it

[rich spindle]

I think that shooters delete so fast toughness is almost worthless. Rely on bubble or yellow

[jaunty tiger]

Cdr/resist/stamina regen on most of mine

[zinc phoenix]

I find that I’m more concerned about the not dying instantly than I am the inevitable slow death of goop

[analog agate]

Best place for smelter is the upper area to the right of the door btw. Super easy to defend. No worry about shooters

[clear heath]

The difference between my havoc curio set and normal set is i just replace the sniper res for 1 corruption res

[jaunty tiger]

Most of my groups usually hole up inside that room to the right

But that sounds better if ppl can make it up the ladder

[zinc phoenix]

Issue is you then have to run a shooter gauntlet to escape while if you’re by the door you’re smack dab in a bubble and ready to leave

[jaunty tiger]

Just chorus and push

[strong gulch]

True, but I'll find my own way to burn through ordos endlessly. I got 2 psykers who need the lowest possible WR on force weapons.

[jaunty tiger]

If u survived to that point

There's no way the last extraction kills you lol

[zinc phoenix]

Oh my god you know what tho the stress of it is unreal lol

Like objectively you’re right but the idea we might get domed on the way out the door was too much 😂

[jaunty tiger]

I think it's more likely you get domed before that

And yeah I agree that gunner resist is probably not meaningful

I would run it if it worked on trash mob shooters

[analog agate]

All you have to do is dome down and bottom front door when it opens and everyone ults to the end 🤷‍♂️ Had no problem at the end of smelter

[jaunty tiger]

But actual elites swiss cheese you so fucking fast that the solution is just not to be shot at

[clear heath]

I still run a couple gunner res to give me a bit of time to react
It has saved me a couple times and it's not like much else matters

[jaunty tiger]

Do ppl ever struggle up the ladder

Thats the only eh sounding part

Ladders are so shit

[patent mango]

ladder jumpscare

[clear heath]

i hate ladders

[patent mango]

gonna start pinging enemy spotted on ladders

[analog agate]

We always end up there from the last valve you turn. Either than or all press the button and travel there together

[jaunty tiger]

O

Thats why

[analog agate]

We don’t use the ladder

[jaunty tiger]

I vet on metalfab always and solo the switches lol

[lethal lagoon]

Me with my 3 of each top tier curio

[jaunty tiger]

So my team usually is just where the last corruption was

[lethal lagoon]

[jaunty tiger]

Before I meet up with them and we move to that little room I mentioned

[clear heath]

i'm too poor for this

my ogryn still doesn't have perfect curios

[lethal lagoon]

[jaunty tiger]

Makes sense though

@what you said

[strong gulch]

My pile of +3 stam curios. I see one I buy one.

[lethal lagoon]

[zinc phoenix]

Me for sure 😂

[strong gulch]

YES. The real final boss.

Ladders will fecking snatch you if you wonder by them too.

[jaunty tiger]

I stg enemies get increased range hitting u on a ladder

[strong gulch]

Also the top stair or top of a ramp not letting you walk over them.

[rich spindle]

I recently learned that you can revive while on a ladder

[clear heath]

wtf

[strong gulch]

inch res ting

[zinc phoenix]

I will never go down a ladder, jump errytiem

[rich spindle]

Did it on uh relay station

Probably the only map you will ever do it on

[zinc phoenix]

Also I rebound jump to B so that spacebar would stop being jump and dodge

Best decision I ever made, I became 50% less killed by random jumps 😂

[strong gulch]

Yeah! Seperate jump and dodge buttons are great,

[zinc phoenix]

But sometimes I forget how to jump

So I just walk into ledges and get stuck 😂

[clear heath]

yeah i actually changed like a month ago and i kept forgetting how to jump too

2 years of muscle memory to forget

[zinc phoenix]

Idk how I got true survivor honestly, I am like the least survivable person ever 😂

[strong gulch]

I had separate buttons in VT2 so I separated mine right away in this one.

[plucky flax]

Not having separate dodge and jump when starting the game.

[spiral condor]

Feel that to my core. Hesitant to join Havoc because of it

[zinc phoenix]

Well here I am to assure you that incompetence and a total lack of skill is no barrier to making it to the top!

[strong gulch]

I have a chance.

[clear heath]

If anyone here ever had any doubt that being tall is optimal for melee:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/487110864504094730/1315842472437481582/tall_melee_propaganda.mp4?ex=6758e14c&is=67578fcc&hm=a2632719aaf949c507974a0327b9081eb3fee442761224c8a382a085087a206a&

[zinc phoenix]

That is an unpossible level of coordination for me so I will not worry

[clear heath]

ok tbf i would never attempt to jump shot in an actual game

but sometimes i just happen to stand on higher ground and get the shot without jumping anyways

[patent jacinth]

You can hit that with mk3 knife PA

[jaunty tiger]

#veteran-class message

New penance idea

Kill 100 bulwarks from the front while jumping

[clear heath]

minimum height ankle biters shall suffer

[strong gulch]

At least height can be changed now.

My character is med height and I was able to hit a bulkwark through the top of the shield with a deimos, but I have not been able to replicate it.

DS special is much easier to do.

[jaunty tiger]

Force push into stab

[clear heath]

2 bulwarks inside each other

suffer

[nocturne dust]

I just murdered my auric curios

Still do fine on auric

[strong gulch]

It's just auric.

[split lance]

Woah

That’s kinda hot ngl

[clear heath]

hi tren

wanna carry my havoc?

need to do 33

wait i beat 33 last week, but now i gotta do 33 again?

[ripe obsidian]

Just did a Havoc 40 pox mission. Holy moly, that was brutal

[rapid patio]

How are you guys getting past 17 it’s impossible for me 😂

[ripe obsidian]

Choosing to win instead of lose

[rapid patio]

I understand it now

[split lance]

I can’t get on rn

[radiant ice]

There’s actually a cheese strat to always win. Reduce enemy hp to 0 while keeping yours above 0

[split lance]

Maybe in a bit

[split lance]

Beautifully said

Wonderfully spoken

[radiant ice]

In truth, yeah Havoc is brutal

[clear heath]

just move to the end of the mission

very simple

[radiant ice]

Went back to an Auric Mael and was bored earlier

Sending texts in the middle of the match

Havoc has ruined it for me

Speaking of which, can’t sleep and tempted to get out of bed to get True Survivor

Got myself at 35 to host 3 attempts at least

[wicked hornet]

is this good for a blazing trauma staff?

just got mods

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ Hard to tell since you're on normal dam

I think it's probably fine

[wicked hornet]

you mean go into Auric?

to really test

[nocturne dust]

I mean I have more experience with Auric so I know those numbers better

[wicked hornet]

oh okay

[nocturne dust]

and also Blazing Trauma performs better in Auric

Most staves do

[wicked hornet]

first time using trauma staff

[radiant ice]

Most of Psyker actually gets easier with enemies density imo

[wicked hornet]

also mods make this game so much better

[radiant ice]

Sometimes Malice trips me up cause I can’t keep stacks of various abilities going

But I’m loving high Havoc and can clear Auric damnations with my eyes closed at this point

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTidn2dBYbY

[radiant ice]

It’s weird how it kinda works like that with Psyker

[wicked hornet]

I don't do much Auric bc I feel I suck. I always feel I'm behind and my team is pushed way up

[radiant ice]

God I fucking love Kung Fury

[bold cape]

mfw i play auric damnation and carry my team and play malice with my friend who just got the game and play like i also just got the game

[radiant ice]

One of the best movies ever made

[radiant ice]

That’s the true Psyker experience

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[wicked hornet]

in dam I can clutch or fix a situation 50% of the time

[radiant ice]

We need that horde density

[ripe obsidian]

Funny. In Havoc, I feel like I am the one pushing up b/c I have bubble

Follow me, children. Into the safety of the bubble

[strong gulch]

@split lance @clear heath If ur both playing in a little while, I'm down.

[wicked hornet]

is bubble good in Auric like havoc?

[radiant ice]

I mean it’s always amazing

[nocturne dust]

me too

[radiant ice]

But often not necessary outside Havoc

Imo

It’s so good it verges on a crutch

[wicked hornet]

I got you

[radiant ice]

It does actually drop off on standard though

[bold cape]

i think bubble is the safe pick
you'll always get value out of it
but i think support picks are almost always outclassed by everything else in the default gamemodes as long as you're a decent player, because killing is usually preferable

[radiant ice]

Cause you are pushing enemies more than they push you

So a static bubble loses value there

So some people get a poor impression from it in Malice, Heresy and even Damnation Standard

[bold cape]

not taking things like smite or bubble are good ways to force you to learn to deal with threats without a safety button

[radiant ice]

But trying it in Auric Damnation or Maelstrom for the first time is like

https://tenor.com/view/always-sunny-frank-oh-my-god-i-get-it-gif-22328165

[nocturne dust]

me watching my teammates use shriek and scrier's as safety buttons

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[radiant ice]

Psyker is 90% safety buttons

Because we blow ourselves up

[bold cape]

i use shriek on some builds literally only for creeping flames

but im a scriers enjoyer at heart

[radiant ice]

The other 10% is gasoline for blowing ourselves up

[bold cape]

scriers force gs my beloved

[wicked hornet]

any good videos or anything explaining how to use scriers gaze correctly?

[radiant ice]

Push F and go ham

Stop going ham when it ends

[bold cape]

literally just pop it into hordes and elites

[radiant ice]

Unless you have warp unbound

Then go ham for another 10 seconds

[thorn cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/mouse-reading-how-to-kill-mickey-mouse-big-eyes-gif-16449397

[hazy moss]

scriers cooldown is 25 seconds, lingers for 10, so really its cooldown is 15 seconds. scrier should be spammed off cd like a true warp fiend

[bold cape]

i enjoy using it with things that dont generate peril
like the force greatswords and guns

[radiant ice]

It’s a tiny cooldown so abuse tf out of it

[radiant ice]

^

[bold cape]

but scriers is usually always back up by the time the lingering bit ends

[radiant ice]

Creeping Flames will always be my favourite

With the wall a close second

[bold cape]

with psykinetics aura (taken on all my builds) you have it all the time

[radiant ice]

But other than Warp Rupture we’re pretty spoiled for good choices

[wicked hornet]

so pop it when you have no peril and go ham on elites mon and hordes

[radiant ice]

Or half peril

Or near full peril

Or when bored

[wicked hornet]

can you pop yourself in the lingering stage of it

[radiant ice]

Or when it’s not already popped

Only without warp unbound

[bold cape]

basically
with the new nodes you can literally get scriers to 30 every time without fail

it lasts so long

[radiant ice]

Even then, especially on lower difficulties

[wicked hornet]

I see ppl use guns with it but can you use a staff?

[bold cape]

this lovely little thing

[radiant ice]

Don’t be scared to use it at 80% peril and get 10 damage/finesse stacks for a bit

Better than 0

[hazy moss]

voidstrike staff has really good synergy with scriers

[radiant ice]

Electrostaff too

And Soulblaze Voidblast

Only really not that useful on Inferno imo

[wicked hornet]

who has a good build for it

[bold cape]

my friend uses scriers on blazing trauma for crits but ive never really used trauma due to hadron cucking me so i wouldnt know

[radiant ice]

@nocturne dust give him the unhinged

[wicked hornet]

would like to try with electro staff

[radiant ice]

Dead has a Voidstrike build for it that slaps

I would advise that a little more, I’m not at my PC to share my Electrostaff one

[wicked hornet]

all good. very appreciative for the information yall give me.

[acoustic isle]

@radiant ice oh yeah build works almost won this one

[radiant ice]

Is that my support lightning one?

[acoustic isle]

that's the flamer one you gave

[radiant ice]

Ehhh oh!

[wicked hornet]

when I used scriers the few times I did I kept killing myself

[radiant ice]

I actually formatted it into a Lantern post

[acoustic isle]

so close to winning that level 39

[radiant ice]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dafe0ee-d114-497d-a6df-a7af17352e84/flames-of-havoc?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

This one?

I have so many lightning staff builds, and a handful of inferno ones

But that’s my main Havoc inferno so I assume that xD

[bold cape]

not sure what class ill bring into havoc

hows trauma in it?

[radiant ice]

Amazing

As always

[zinc phoenix]

Doesn’t really matter til the 20s

[radiant ice]

All 4 staves wreck in Havoc

[zinc phoenix]

If you’re an ogryn enjoyer expect to have some trouble finding parties tho

[bold cape]

sadge
my least played class but always meant to get around to him

[main wyvern]

Who is actually an ogryn enjoyer

[zinc phoenix]

They have some devotees

[radiant ice]

I’ve had some outstanding big men in my Havoc games

[main wyvern]

My ogryn is level 4

[radiant ice]

Had one that was 1824 level

And he was pretty damn good with that Kickback

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah the good ogryns are real good because that is all the play and they play it a lot 😂

[radiant ice]

That’s the best Voidstrike build imo

If you like slapping balls in the face of men

[bold cape]

o really?
might have to try it out then

voidstrike was always my favorite

[radiant ice]

Throw balls during SG, launch 10 shards during Warp Unbound

Repeat

[nocturne dust]

You can also just spam balls all day, shards unneeded

[radiant ice]

Yeah but each shard has about 10 cleave with that build

100 shard kills in 7 seconds is sexy

[clear heath]

@split lance @nocturne dust wanna play havoc?

[bold cape]

oh right warp unbound
thats new innit?

[wicked hornet]

can that be played with electric staff?

[radiant ice]

It can, with some tweaks

[strong gulch]

ye. need a few minutes. like 5

[wicked hornet]

I dont have a void strike lvled yet

[clear heath]

k

[radiant ice]

Hold on lemme boot lantern

[nocturne dust]

Dang, something unexpected came up I'll be a while longer. Like half an hour longer. Play some without me

[clear heath]

alright

[radiant ice]

This is a rough idea of how it looks tweaked for electrostaff

I prefer Reality Anchor for electrostaff, even though it's a little unpopular. Purely cause that thing can be a grenade on a stick

[nocturne dust]

I wouldn't recommend it on any staff except Voidstrike

Other staves really, really like left side. EK most of all.

[radiant ice]

Oh yeah, but we on unhinged hours

And Scriers Electro is pretty damn fun

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yeah, you can run it with the strangeness but don't expect it to perform very well

[radiant ice]

Honestly that build with Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry does me really well

Wouldn't take it to Havoc 20+, but anything below that, Auric or Standard, it's a blast

[lethal lagoon]

@nocturne dust @strong gulch Games in 15?

[strong gulch]

@clear heath Ready. VC or no?

[lethal lagoon]

Oh

[nocturne dust]

rekt

I won't be available for like 30 mins

[clear heath]

sure. Strike team 1

[lethal lagoon]

That's fine, it's a tren 15 minutes.

so 30 is probably closer

[clear heath]

atlas join us

[lethal lagoon]

I'm with tren, and just asked void.

[clear heath]

both of you join us then

or anyone can join if they want. havoc 33

[radiant ice]

I am debating hosting my 35 for True Survivor runs

but it means getting out of bed XD

Screw it, not sure how it will go considering it's 2am in my region

But I want that title XD

[celest valve]

also doesn't cooldown reducing stuff like concentration stim and cdr on specialist/elite kill work while it's active too

cause I recall it being up instantly again after using a concentration stim during it

[hazy moss]

yes

you can chain them with cdr stim to be truly immortal

[celest valve]

imagine if we had a talent that turned damage into peril like in vermintide 2 :v

[patent jacinth]

That’s base unchained

[hazy moss]

im still dreaming for the day we get a peril movespeed talent

[celest valve]

+100% at max peril because lol why not

[split lance]

im on 34

[lethal lagoon]

@nocturne dust Are you ready little buddy?

[radiant ice]

I want this frame so badly

[split lance]

@clear heath

hi

@strong gulch

its just me now

@lethal lagoon went to bed like a

idk

a sleepy boy

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

would anyone like a lonely tren in there team

[split lance]

i can provide many assists to a penance such as this!!!

[halcyon gust]

You'll get it in due time sibling

[cyan portal]

Puppet Master > Solidity for havoc, change my mind?

[muted grove]

@polar drift i am so ass at surviving with psyker, whats your advice for dealing with ranged dmg

[plucky flax]

No you have reduce vent already and team is always together

[halcyon gust]

Using cover, Deflector blessing on Force swords, Dodging, Sprint while sliding

[dull gyro]

trauma staff + combat blade = gud?

[halcyon gust]

In due time you'll become good enough at dodging most shooters outside the Havoc gamemode

[cyan portal]

If you single tick quell solidity has no impact. If team is slightly spread then making sure they're still getting max CDR for yellow toughness is quite beneficial.

[plucky flax]

If you have the precision to quell only 1 tick every single time you're a much better player than me

Not that I can manage my peril doing only 1 tick anyway.

[cyan portal]

The timing isn't too hard. It also means the quell speed penalty has no effect either.

[royal cove]

what blessings for inferno?

[split lance]

did you mean to at that guy or me

[plucky flax]

[muted grove]

lmaooo bro my bad i meant you homie

[split lance]

ah so what i do is

i kill them before they can kill me

if that doesnt work

i die

im not even joking

[muted grove]

thats how it feels fr

the only range i have is head pop tho whhich is slow

[plucky flax]

I bow before superior knowledge and power

[split lance]

id listen to agent tho

im bad

[keen pier]

fortnite build

[muted grove]

gimmie dat sweet sweet advice

[plucky flax]

No I am bad meowbop is better

[split lance]

are u on

[plucky flax]

What do you want to know from thy humble servant?

[split lance]

wanna do some aurics

[dull gyro]

yall, combat blade + trauma = good combo? to run away in case shit goes sideways? or nah

gs+trauma feels kinda clunky idk

(not melee psyker)

(trauma focus)

[muted grove]

im on with my homie running damnations rn, do you want an inv after this round? 👀

[split lance]

yes

[plucky flax]

Ye sure man

Usually ds4 or knife is gud with trauma. Or deimos too

[dull gyro]

awsum

mobility dump? as always?

for cb

[split lance]

yup

[plucky flax]

Yeah it still has really good mobility.

[dull gyro]

ty

[radiant ice]

I prefer damage

[plucky flax]

Just heavy slide around

[muted grove]

@split lance sending inv 1 sec

[split lance]

wait im not even on

gimme 2 sec lol

[muted grove]

bet

[split lance]

ok im on

[cyan portal]

@plucky flax what's your havoc purga build?

[reef spindle]

just got up to level 30 on my psyker pog

[radiant ice]

Not sure if it helps, but until they answer I use this 😛 https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dafe0ee-d114-497d-a6df-a7af17352e84/flames-of-havoc

[cyan portal]

just watching his messy h40 and trying to work out if he has ER. Remembered he showed build at start of vid though so question answered

[plucky flax]

I do yeah to continuous flaming since things are so tanky in havoc

That havoc was cursed cos the vet doesn't like pressing f to aoe stagger for whatever reason.

So many times he has it up but don't use it.

[hazy moss]

why does everyone think you need a bubble in havoc 30+

[cyan portal]

not everyone

[hazy moss]

no shit

is this how you felt with that response?

https://tenor.com/view/gunna-fire-writing-heat-gif-25524005

[lean mural]

as far as i can tell it's because regular shooters become much more dangerous when the players are nerfed vs when the enemies are buffed

and bubble turns them off

• the toughness is nice

[cyan portal]

Not really sure what kind of response you expected to that question. The obvious answer seems very obvious.

[zinc phoenix]

IMO you over prioritize damage, kinetic deflection could save your bacon

[clear heath]

@strong gulch man that game was so close

[lean mural]

buddy. i'm autistic and i even knew "everyone" wasn't to be interpreted literally

[radiant ice]

I generally am just not a KD user or fan

[clear heath]

my melee psyker popping off though

[zinc phoenix]

😱

It’s so good tho

It’s like a cheat code to never giving a shit about stam

[radiant ice]

I mention that in the description 😛

A small variant to take it if you want it, just not a fan XD

[zinc phoenix]

NOW YOU EXPECT ME TO READ?!?!?!

Emprah protect me from these attacks! 😂

[hazy moss]

are you familiar with expressions of language? or is english not your first language

[zinc phoenix]

Just had a quick game with a fellow psyker who knew his business and two vets who very much did not in an h17 😂 my shoulders be achin

[plucky flax]

600k melee psyker

[clear heath]

it was in havoc 33

[radiant ice]

Oh I know the feeling, ran a couple low ranks for some assists and it's so chill

But the people are so bad

[zinc phoenix]

Very nice

[plucky flax]

Havoc 33 is good

I'd say 35-40 feels the same.

30-34 big jump from 29 cos of emperor light 2

[zinc phoenix]

JSON if you manage to true survivor with a meleeker you are god of psyker melee

[clear heath]

Yeah i'm wondering how much 35 will impact melee psyker

cause there's that hitmass increase

[plucky flax]

But it's not much difficult between any 30s

[zinc phoenix]

It’s not good!

[clear heath]

35 theoretically fucks melee harder

[radiant ice]

A lot is the answer -someone who tried it

[plucky flax]

It's just the upper half has 100k monster hp

[radiant ice]

35 is just "No melee" for us

[plucky flax]

I nearly outdamage a trauma psyker on my choir boi zealot yesterday

Man needed to blast more.

[dull gyro]

ayo so whats the best dps combo for trauma anyway

[dull gyro]

right click -> left click left click -> right click -> left click left click?

[plucky flax]

Nexus blaze trauma crit chance flak

[dull gyro]

nono

[radiant ice]

Scriers Gaze and the Special Attack

[dull gyro]

i mean the actual combo

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-rain-face-down-totoro-gif-7201821

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah just do full charge

[cyan portal]

I guess I'm just more autistic than you. Bubble is popular because many players are struggling. Havoc punishes bad positioning / move tech, and bubble is a crutch to fix that for the whole team.

[plucky flax]

Cast big boom all over the place

[dull gyro]

cheers bruv

[plucky flax]

Rain down blue fire bombs upon the heretics

[clear heath]

got this cool shotgunner sweep too

[radiant ice]

I find once you get to Havoc 30, the Inferno Staff is hard to put down

Even though I prefer EK

[zinc phoenix]

Half charge if you need to stagger crushers or save yourself in melee

[radiant ice]

Only makes sense to run it if another is already running Inferno

[zinc phoenix]

Full charge is for big domage

[plucky flax]

Why when trauma is better

[split lance]

havoc 30s is where i fell back in love with surge

[radiant ice]

It's Voidblast these days, get with the times old man

[zinc phoenix]

Name causes me trauma

[radiant ice]

XD

[radiant ice]

It really shines as the backup to an Inferno Psyker

But as the sole Psyker, AoE is needed imo

Cause for some reason nobody runs AoE in EU pubs

[split lance]

as the main damage

[nocturne dust]

Eh, EK doesn't do great

[clear heath]

also average fgs gameplay

[nocturne dust]

EK if anything just steals warpfire

[karmic reef]

Anyone got any ideas for a good voidstrike build with venting shriek? after it reset all my builds I wanna remake mine

[ripe obsidian]

True Survivor is hard.

[clear heath]

all my shitty dodges disappearing instantly

[split lance]

mosst ranged dmg

[nocturne dust]

But is it useful dmg?

[radiant ice]

I mean, I am at 35 wink wink nudge nudge

[ripe obsidian]

I did rending trauma as a backup to purg and ended up doing more damage than the purg guy somehow...

[radiant ice]

lmao

[split lance]

is killing elites considered helpful?

[ripe obsidian]

Weren't you going to bed?

[clear heath]

I mean i'm still using ek and it's still working so far

the build isn't focused on ek though

[radiant ice]

I got up, and I'm just away to go back XD

[clear heath]

it's just a gapcloser while i melee

[radiant ice]

Insomnia ftw

[nocturne dust]

not when you do it one at a time on Havoc. I mean it helps, but the reason EK gets so high is because it always outputs, rather than trauma or inferno which don't do nearly as well during quiet moments

[ripe obsidian]

Well, if you're running again, you can invite me. After I get a bite to eat.

[radiant ice]

(Not self diagnosed, have special pills that every few months I have to take a little more)

[plucky flax]

Because its flavour of the month build. For whatever reason people think burga is better than trauma in high havoc and psykers zealots are most popular classes and builds.

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, I wasn't going to question you.

[split lance]

trauma always does a lot

wym

[plucky flax]

But the psykers aren't actually psykers and are clueless how to play

[radiant ice]

Nah gonna try for more sleep, will drop you a message tomorrow though

[nocturne dust]

Compare it to EK tho

[hazy moss]

sorry for being toxic :p

[radiant ice]

I was playing awful cause my tiredness in my last game

[nocturne dust]

Trauma takes a lot longer to kill a bunch of scattered shooters than zap zap staff

[plucky flax]

A lot of these new psykers doing burga with minimum charge.

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma peril a lot tougher to manage than burgeratus tho

[ripe obsidian]

I've been jumping between purg and trauma. I'm not sure which I prefer tbh.

[radiant ice]

What is "burga"

Is it just purga but haha funny b?

[plucky flax]

Tru but I find I am able to carry so much harder.

[clear heath]

burger

[nocturne dust]

at least it keeps up blaze away stacks

[plucky flax]

Especially if I'm the only psyker.

[plucky flax]

And give like 4 stacks to new enemies

[zinc phoenix]

Well in fairness you are really really good at the game 😂

[nocturne dust]

They're just relying on their siblings 🙏

[plucky flax]

Give blaze cc and damage. Veri based blaze trauma

[nocturne dust]

Give Blazing Spirit something

anything

on melee

[plucky flax]

Rending is nice too tho because of tanky guys

Actually not a useless set up for this mode.

[warped kernel]

i searched it but couldnt find it, what are folks liking with the 2h force sword paired with wrath?

blessing wise

[plucky flax]

I'd go with shred and call it a day for some crit

[cyan portal]

maybe min charge is superior?

[clear heath]

riposte or shred usually

[plucky flax]

A lot of good options tho

[nocturne dust]

I go shred in auric, deflector in havoc

[strong gulch]

Yeah it was.

[karmic reef]

Do I need wrath on the force greatsword if I have warp splitting?

[clear heath]

I've been using riposte because i run out of bubble like a maniac often enough to dodge stuff

[warped kernel]

yeah been using Shred just fine

[plucky flax]

No since the direct damage does a lot and yes you might be keeping blaze away stacks up but you're not applying enough soulblaze anyway since the channel time for minimum charge is so short.

[clear heath]

shred and riposte are equal enough imo

[plucky flax]

Might as well left click it's better and do stagger more.

[warped kernel]

interesting about deflector in havoc though

makes sense

[nocturne dust]

no

[clear heath]

did you see this shotgun sweep potato?

[strong gulch]

@split lance @nocturne dust @clear heath If y'all want to play in a bit, let me know

[plucky flax]

I play deflector shred personally in havoc 20s.

[nocturne dust]

Blaze Away is nice and all but min charges spend so much time in animation

[nocturne dust]

I'm down

[ripe obsidian]

How different is your blaze trauma build from your purg build (that I stole and have been using)?

[clear heath]

I'm down to play too

[plucky flax]

It's different you can have a look at the start of the trauma vid.

No battle med for example

[karmic reef]

hows this build look?

[ripe obsidian]

oh this is identical to what I already have

[plucky flax]

https://youtu.be/1iPEeOh-cwI

[zinc phoenix]

I like going mk8 with tranq and riposte so that I can go apeshit on cutting things. You get used to needing the push attack poke to nuke ragers and heavier stuff + the push before makes you safer by ass planting the baddies. And the cleaving is pretty nice

[nocturne dust]

weird

and weird = mutant

[plucky flax]

Based you are veri pro

[nocturne dust]

and mutant = heretic

[karmic reef]

how so, what would you change?

[nocturne dust]

and heretic = execute on sight

[zinc phoenix]

Riposte for more crit because crit is so good with meleeker

[nocturne dust]

so, first off, what are you trying to run?

[karmic reef]

the weapon types posted above

[nocturne dust]

You're trying to do a shriekstrike or just voidstrike in general?

[dull gyro]

if I want my CB to be an "oh god oh fuck i need to run or stab a crusher in its head" weapon, MK 3 is better right? or mk6?

[plucky flax]

Mk6 is easier just push attack spam

It comes out faster than the mk3 push attack

[nocturne dust]

mk3?

[karmic reef]

Voidstrike in general but I want to spam it as often as possible so shriek is there as a backup if I need to use more peril in a pinch

[cyan portal]

@plucky flax @nocturne dust What would convince you that you're wrong?

[clear heath]

wrong about what?

[dull gyro]

wdym

[plucky flax]

[dull gyro]

hold block + left click?

[nocturne dust]

Cold, hard numbers

[plucky flax]

The push stab

[dull gyro]

ah

[nocturne dust]

Here, this is an unhinged build for spamming voidstrike everywhere

It's extremely frail but extremely juicy

[strong gulch]

@clear heath @nocturne dust I think @split lance is in a game right now. We'll see if he responds.

[split lance]

im down after this one

[strong gulch]

🎉

[cyan portal]

Does h40 scoreboard count?

[nocturne dust]

Not those numbers

[karmic reef]

What blessings

[nocturne dust]

surge + warp nexus

[clear heath]

what are you guys even arguing about?

[nocturne dust]

I also run crit chance and maniac for perks

[nocturne dust]

Purgatus min charge spam

[karmic reef]

btw can you not get weakspot hits anymore with voidstrike? it doesnt seem to be doing any extra damage in psykhanium?

[cyan portal]

that min charge purga is superior

[clear heath]

I actually don't think there's a meaningful difference

[nocturne dust]

I meant numbers like actual calculations, as in the output of damage from Purg via min charge spamming vs max charge

[broken carbon]

you can

it does more damage

try aiming a bit above their head

[broken carbon]

for headshots? i know it can affect crusher one shot

[clear heath]

no for the purgatus thing they're talking about

[broken carbon]

ohg

purg cannot headshot

neither can flamer

as far as i know

[nocturne dust]

It is

[clear heath]

yeah i meant the charge thing

[nocturne dust]

Soulblaze stacks far quicker and you get far more direct damage by max charging

because the animation time for min charging is a lot

[broken carbon]

oh yeah max charging is much more effective

[timber cairn]

Wondering whether brittleness is better instead of blazing for havoc (if teammates are pulling big dmg alrdy)

[broken carbon]

yah it’s a good support option

[karmic reef]

how do you play this build? any particular way?

[sturdy reef]

never take off blaze away

[broken carbon]

think he’s talking about trauma staff

blazing spirit and rending shockwave

[sturdy reef]

ah

[nocturne dust]

Use voidstrike on everything unless you can't see/enemies are scattered, in which case you switch to assail

[broken carbon]

or use m1

[nocturne dust]

It's not EK

[broken carbon]

still does decent enough damage

plus you’ve got surge

most of the time

[nocturne dust]

Also, it takes some learning. Optimal play will require you know how much charge you need for a target, so you can half-ish charge on a lot of enemies and still one-shot them (and it gets more complex with DD and scrier's)

You don't have to get super involved with DD and Scrier's though

[broken carbon]

it gets tuah point where u just kinda feel out the enemies BPs

[nocturne dust]

you should just know the BPs for when they're down and when they're full-ish

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[broken carbon]

you’ve just gotta watch the enemies like a hawk

the wolf howls, the lion roars

and the hawk..

[nocturne dust]

Don't sell me bitcoin

[broken carbon]

the hawk tuahs

[nocturne dust]

[broken carbon]

psykh tuah

warp on that thang

i miss him…

[karmic reef]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/718659850065936425/1240437390892466277/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_4.gif

[sturdy reef]

anyone who has done 30+ havok willing to run a 37

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i-cast-9mm-shadow-wizard-money-gang-white-wizard-wizard-gun-gif-16583910556779911987

[karmic reef]

do I fully charge?

[clear heath]

sure

[nocturne dust]

Sometimes

[sturdy reef]

https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1042856753412460595

[broken carbon]

against enemies like ogryns, denser packs of enemies

[nocturne dust]

Full charge on thicc groups and thicc bois

[wicked hornet]

what does minimum charge mean? like the gage on the staff by holding right click?

[nocturne dust]

[karmic reef]

also, wont I reach max peril super fast in scriers

[broken carbon]

that’s why you’ve got warp unbound

[plucky flax]

Right click then left click instantly

[nocturne dust]

That's what Empyric Resolve is trying to help with, and what you have Warp Unbound for

[karmic reef]

How much otherwise?

[broken carbon]

gunners i think you can get away with like half on a headshot crit

[karmic reef]

should I stop to quell midway through scriers or just keep blasting?

[wicked hornet]

that's what you should be doing?

[nocturne dust]

It is super dependent and you kinda just have to feel it out and get used to it. Generally, you can half-charge or less on most weaker enemies/specials.

[broken carbon]

no

[nocturne dust]

Depends. If enemies are super close and trying to murder you, just blast. The quelling is to stack more damage from Scrier's, but that won't do a thing if you're dead.

[wicked hornet]

okay so hold right click for a full charge

[plucky flax]

I don't think so. Full or half charge give much more damage.

[nocturne dust]

you mean right click

[wicked hornet]

so another dumb question. do you ever just left click spam on packs of enemies? or just like if they are in your face

[karmic reef]

alright, now I gotta make my all soulblaze source inferno staff build

what would you recommend with that

[zinc phoenix]

I left click spam to make gunners stop shooting and to nail a special

[karmic reef]

blaze staff and deimos force sword

[nocturne dust]

Oh also, do note that warp unbound can 'kill' you for a very short period between when Scrier's ends and warp unbound begins if you happen to generate peril during that moment

[broken carbon]

left click spam is mainly for singular enemies that you don’t want to bother charging up for, or staggering/suppressing a specific enemy quickly

[broken carbon]

is that still a thing

oh my god

lmfao

[zinc phoenix]

It’s honestly wild how good left click is at suppressing

[wicked hornet]

okay I feel I'm doing it right

[nocturne dust]

I have a guide for that https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide

[karmic reef]

does it actually kill you?

[broken carbon]

i haven’t noticed that with my SG usage

[broken carbon]

yes

[nocturne dust]

It peril explodes you

so it kills, yes

[mossy oyster]

(they didnt put it in the hotfix notes either for this recent hotfix)

[zinc phoenix]

I havent periled with WU this patch

[mossy oyster]

👍

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[zinc phoenix]

But I’ve also been pure melee

[karmic reef]

I LOVE FIRE!!! PROMETHEUS SUFFERED FOR YOU TO USE IT!!!

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-angry-shoutung-audience-gif-5898640

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[zinc phoenix]

But where is le bubble elmo

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[zinc phoenix]

Much better

[nocturne dust]

safe in bubble

that's where he is

[karmic reef]

blessings for inferno?

[wicked hornet]

just my damage always seems low on purga. Just did my 2nd every Auric and we passed but felt I didn't do the damage you should be doing.

[nocturne dust]

The guide should have that

but Blaze Away and Warp Nexus

[vapid sparrow]

I am fond of voidstrike

[split lance]

@strong gulch

[nocturne dust]

me too

[split lance]

hi

[strong gulch]

Noice

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-wiseau-oh-hi-mark-hey-mark-gif-17296134

[ripe obsidian]

This might sound silly, but I am kinda pleased that I did another havoc 40 mission. Proves the first wasn't a fluke

[karmic reef]

btw why not souldrinker, that sounds good for a soulblaze build

[nocturne dust]

I'm fine if I get carried

[nocturne dust]

It's on the wrong side of the tree and eats 3 points just to get it

and even if it wasn't, it's only 5% crit and a smidgen of toughness

[strong gulch]

@nocturne dust Json is in another strike team. 69 and 40 are taken.

[nocturne dust]

because of the way it works

[unkempt patio]

if I have to choose do I get warp expidenture or mettle?

[nocturne dust]

100 isn't 👀

[split lance]

this is why i need to be mod

[strong gulch]

in 100

[strong gulch]

Remember that guy who said to move last night? lmao

[ripe obsidian]

I do okay. Not spectacular, couldn't carry solo, but I don't drag my team down or need to be carried

[split lance]

Yeah

Idk his name

[strong gulch]

Same.

[karmic reef]

oh it doesnt stack

[nocturne dust]

it also doesn't refresh while active

[karmic reef]

What perks should I run on my force sword to compliment

[nocturne dust]

Holy barnacle, I just heard two guardsmen speaking by Dukane and one went "Not me though. Charmed life. The Emperor loves me." and the other replied "Glad somebody does." 💀

[strong gulch]

@split lance We're in vc 100. Also we need a 4th.

[split lance]

gimme 5

[karmic reef]

Blazing spirit for MORE FIRE?

[nocturne dust]

You running Deimos? Uncanny and [preference]. I would run slaughterer.

[karmic reef]

bloodthirsty sounds kinda cool

[nocturne dust]

No. Never blazing spirit.

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073