psyker-class

[untold niche]

book literally just makes the enemy targets

[marble crater]

Because ammo and you need to deal with horde, they have more hitmass, so you cleave less

[zinc phoenix]

I just wanna get true survivor done now that I’ve got havoc 40 and then I’m done with high havoc 😂

[untold niche]

the same reason why i hated smite

[acoustic isle]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[untold niche]

you could play rashad shout vet

no?

[marble crater]

Sure, try it

[untold niche]

oh yeah brum has 5 cap

or isit 4

so with horde density

ok that makes sense

what about pee sword with pee C

[zinc phoenix]

You can either play the meta builds or not get added by host tbh

[untold niche]

does vet have chain swords?

[acoustic isle]

Pus hardened skin also basically tripling the damage you gotta do with ranged attacks on those units

[untold niche]

eh i play shout vet like zealot

[marble crater]

and don't forget the gooooo all over the floor

[steel flame]

Boy what a fun community dynamic

[acoustic isle]

THE GOOP!

[untold niche]

but yeah i don't want to play with 2 books

[acoustic isle]

The goop! Run from the goop!

[untold niche]

does that damage you

[zinc phoenix]

Certainly how I feel

[untold niche]

i know it can spread

[acoustic isle]

Instantly corrupts

[untold niche]

to other peepo

[zinc phoenix]

And as host you actually have a pretty big stake bc 3 losses and then derank

[untold niche]

oh like the nurgle goop?

[steel flame]

That its fun? Or just annoying

[untold niche]

there are ranks now?

[acoustic isle]

It's beast of nurgle slime/ puke ×100

[zinc phoenix]

So taking mooks into your party nah fam

[marble crater]

80% corruption after first horde if people don't pay attention, been there and saw it happen

[untold niche]

this sounds kinda epic but again i don't want 2 books
at that point why not just play kovaak

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t see how you can have hosts with an actual stake without party finder. Its not a great community dynamic but also the community is the issue so whatever

[acoustic isle]

So zealots running corruption cleanse auras are high demand

[untold niche]

i think the meta change certainly is interesting though.

[zinc phoenix]

It isn’t really

[acoustic isle]

Just boring

Tedious

[patent mango]

eep

[hazy moss]

is 'charged strike' node worth running on a sword psyker build?

[patent mango]

no

[untold niche]

no i don't mean the meta is interesting. i mean how it changes so much is intrerestiing

[steel flame]

No

[patent mango]

charged strike is unbeliveably bad

[hazy moss]

y not

[hazy moss]

but lightning

[acoustic isle]

Folks are gonna go for the pennances then not touch the mode again lmao

[patent mango]

it do like 2 damig....

[hazy moss]

:(

[untold niche]

Auric Storm Survivor

[zinc phoenix]

35+ is gonna be a ghost town for sure

[untold niche]

i knew from day 1 it meant jack shit lol

[unkempt patio]

None of the staves feel very strong against unyielding

[zinc phoenix]

It’s just boring

[steel flame]

It's 20 dps dot, no stun and only adds 10% more damage. And you are spending 2 points for that

[zinc phoenix]

But 20s havoc is actually pretty fun

[untold niche]

theasianrobot and whats the other shitty youtuber going to drop some bad build videos soon

[marble crater]

Yeah, either everyone should derank or nobody should derank if it fails, only host deranking just invites trolls and griefing from assholes

[acoustic isle]

Honestly the late 10's to mid 20's are pretty challenging and fun

Just again they had to make ranged units tedious

[zinc phoenix]

The ranged units don’t matter once you’ve got your movement and positioning down

[hazy moss]

im not running enfeeble

[zinc phoenix]

Legit “don’t get hit” is the way to go

[untold niche]

hey guys, do you want to know another horde shooter that has incredible theory crafting?

[zinc phoenix]

Not really

[acoustic isle]

Sure but that's why i say tedious. It's not like you can't adjust and get through it all. I just find it annoying

[hazy moss]

heres what i cooked up

[steel flame]

Then you get a 20 dps dot that doesn't last long and only applies on heavies and doesn't stack

[zinc phoenix]

Musta spent a lot of time over the toilet for that one

[patent mango]

charged strike doesnt even stack btw

[untold niche]

i was making a reference to how i said im playihng warframe earlier.
Also aren't you a ogryn/zealot chat main? i can't rmb, but i do remember the profile pic

[patent mango]

wait if mass fricks over charged strike isnt it somehow nerfed in havoc even more

[zinc phoenix]

No

I’ve done mostly psyker since beta

[untold niche]

eh i never saw you in psyker chat last time

[zinc phoenix]

I only do the other classes for penance farming

But I hate ogryn so much I stopped

[steel flame]

The only use case charged strike has is triggering high voltage on stun baton faster, that's it and even that is a stretch

[zinc phoenix]

Anyway the new penances have put me over the top for all the good cosmetics I wanted

So don’t have to grind a morbillion ogryn misions

[untold niche]

wait sorry this mean the new penances give good cosmeticss?

thats nice

[acoustic isle]

Luckily i took care of all the class pennances ages ago

But my god was ogryn the longest

Ive got all but the helmet on psyker

[steel flame]

I refuse to do ogryn penances because I refuse to play ogryn

[zinc phoenix]

I haven’t finished zealot either, too mindless

[acoustic isle]

New psyker helmet looks like this

From someone else's image

Have yourself a judge dredd cosplay

[celest valve]

judge dredd ass helmet

[unreal wasp]

Grape Sort Sicker > Grape Sort Sellout Comeform-ed

SG and DD basically only using my sword, bistol for icky trappers and snipers

[unreal wasp]

Also classic me moment, getting more Overkill than Actual damage

[analog agate]

The black psyker helm looks much better than the blue

[thorn cedar]

man, love the greatsword

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/mortician-happy-color-wednesday-gif-18869994

[heady perch]

was the boidstrike or voidblast staff the one that sent out an orb

[analog agate]

Strike

[unkempt patio]

I have to say I am really enjoying spamming smite. I feel like that has to be one of the highest damage abilities vs hordes in the game

[celest valve]

With EP, brokenly so yes.

Assail tends to be better, but also tends to miss one or two.

[unkempt patio]

I’ve found assail requires me to pay more attention. With smite it basically has a built in failsafe so you don’t blow yourself up

With shield it allows for some incredibly brain dead play

[marble crater]

Stop smite before getting 100% peril for best results though

[unkempt patio]

I’ve been running it to 70-80. Seems I can start again before regular mobs get back up

[celest valve]

The EP smyker meta builds that I've seen that are the most effective uses venting shriek, as you can use a combat ability without interrupting smite.

[sly jacinth]

T/O how the hell did you get that in black👀👀👀

[gentle vapor]

quick question, why do i have more points than blessing for electro staff? did i miss something? (new player, this is day 3 for me)

[acoustic isle]

well

[marble crater]

Because bugged

[acoustic isle]

that is all the new cosmetics from the havoc pennances

rank 25 or higher, play 50 missions

last one is to help 50 people with havocs

[sly jacinth]

Bet I’m at rank 22

Havocs?

[gentle vapor]

ok cool, just wanted to make sure i wasn't missing a blassing or something

[acoustic isle]

as in the havoc game mode with Dukane. so you complete a havoc mission of rank 25 or higher, complete 50 havocs then help with 50 havocs

the complete and help do overlap

[sly jacinth]

Ohhhh bet

[radiant ice]

You know what I now hate havoc

[marble crater]

[radiant ice]

I will take a screenshot the second darktide stops crashing XD

[marble crater]

I want to increase my rank as host, but I also want to work on the assist penance while I play havoc

https://tenor.com/view/larry-david-unsure-uncertain-cant-decide-undecided-gif-3529136

[radiant ice]

I was 36 host

Now 34, soon 33

[marble crater]

[radiant ice]

Wanna know why?

[marble crater]

Because the lobby bugs out?

[radiant ice]

My 36, 35 and now 34 have all been this modifier. Only got 1 attempt left in 34 so that's 8 straight Havoc 30+ games with it

[marble crater]

Rip

[radiant ice]

Just gonna suicide the next game and go to 33

Maybe get better modifiers

[marble crater]

Can you get that and gooooop on the ground?

[radiant ice]

OH

YES

[analog agate]

Yes

[radiant ice]

YOU FUCKING CAN

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

Awesome

[radiant ice]

LET ME TAKE A WIDER SCREENSHOT

[analog agate]

I have gotten goo, tox bombers, and tox gas modifiers. It blew

[radiant ice]

That's what I've had

For 36, 35 and 34

I am on the verge of uninstall XD

[analog agate]

It requires a lot of waiting. I hate tox gas

[radiant ice]

I think my modifiers may be bugged, because they are not changing

[marble crater]

So what's the difference between the emperors fading light 1 and 2 exactly? More spawns/no pauses in spawns?

[radiant ice]

No tension breaks I think yeah

So with the tox bomber one

It never stops sending tox bombers

There is always at least 3-5 alive

[marble crater]

Very cool and based

[radiant ice]

And the gas + goo on the map

For 3 tiers now

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-techpriest-binaric-screeching-screeching-gif-20192683

[marble crater]

This is why it would be nice to rank up right away when you play another person's map, so if you have a group of people you can rotate and pick modifiers you want

Instead of getting stuck with bullshit like in your case

Plus all the other reasons, have in group of 4 but then the host needs to leave and then that's it, the other 3 people can also just disband

[hollow jolt]

Does the warp slash from the greatsword benefit from ranged or melee buffs?

[celest valve]

no

[hollow jolt]

Neither? Bruh

[celest valve]

All weapon perks, damage scaling, everything is ignored. Base 100 damage uncharged, then... something for the other two i forgot

[hollow jolt]

Lmao

[marble crater]

[hollow jolt]

Fatshark please...

[celest valve]

it does respect other damage bonuses however, likely as an unspecified melee type.

[marble crater]

Oh, it also can't crit Nevermind

[celest valve]

it can, for +50% damage.

(it's finesse is bad too)

[marble crater]

It can? Why did people say it can't

[hollow jolt]

Feels like the sword is "only" for hordeclear :c

Such is life

[radiant ice]

It literally has a blessing to make it always crit

[celest valve]

probably because they wanted to use it for blazing spirit which doesn't work because nothing in the stats matters for it except peril

[radiant ice]

Why would that exist if it can't?

[broken carbon]

no

[clear heath]

wait it ignores perks?

[broken carbon]

the push attack stab is great

on the mk8

[marble crater]

Because Fatshark?

[broken carbon]

and the mk6 stab does good damage too

[celest valve]

afaik yes, there's a line in it that explicitly ignores all weapon stats.

[marble crater]

The melee part from the slash can crit

[hollow jolt]

Eh I wasn't impressed

[celest valve]

(character buffs still apply however as a warp attack)

[hollow jolt]

Was hoping I could make it work

Back to Deimos

[celest valve]

(also weapon stats DO matter for the melee portion of it, which is basically illisi power sword special.)

[broken carbon]

how

you can one shot a crusher with it

[hollow jolt]

"How"

[patent mango]

how

[hollow jolt]

I can just use the Deimos instead

[broken carbon]

significantly worse horde clear

with the reward of easier single target

[patent mango]

not even a greatsword

[broken carbon]

also true

[radiant ice]

Away to find out if I get the same modifiers same time 4 demotions in a row

If so, I am taking a PoE2 break for a week XD

[patent mango]

i switched back to riposte shred memes + warp splitting lol

[hollow jolt]

"Oops all tox bombers"

[radiant ice]

Actually yes

Had this for 36, 35 and 34

[hollow jolt]

The tox bomber shit is such a pain

[radiant ice]

Pox gas, extra tox bombers and goo

[hollow jolt]

YIPPIE

[radiant ice]

Oh and the head pop

For 3 tiers in a row

[patent mango]

goop

[radiant ice]

That's 9 straight games of this

[celest valve]

oh. oh right. there's a budget for that which the director has. that's based on tension. and if minimum tension nee- fuck me it is payday 2

ok

i have the stupidest idea

[hollow jolt]

Lets go for 12 😎

[analog agate]

You know what they should do? Instead of Warp Rupture and the measly 100-200 dmg shout… You should be able to shout tox gas away

[radiant ice]

FUCKING FINALLY

All it took was losing 3 Havoc ranks to get no more gas

[celest valve]

find the tox bomber, and use the 1 damage psyker push to just take them with you throughout the entire level.

ez

[clear heath]

next one will be gas

[hollow jolt]

No tox gas -> but now your teammates are eating bricks

Everything has its price 😔

[radiant ice]

I will take that

3 demotions with identical modifiers has been brutal

[marble crater]

Good luck

[radiant ice]

Annnnd

A Russian guy joined, quit right as the mission started

[marble crater]

And this is why everyone should derank when you lose a mission and not just the host

[zinc phoenix]

Want another person?

[zinc phoenix]

Leavers also lose an attempt iirc

And if you punish me for joining a mission run by an idiot host I’m not gonna join missions

[radiant ice]

We got a new person from a previous mission

[analog agate]

Do you lose an attempt if you are playing a different level though? Like, if I am a 40 and lose 2 twice on 20s I have one more to stay at 40?

[marble crater]

That's good at least. The entire system needs a rework, imo

[radiant ice]

At least means the guy can't join a new one until we either win or die

[marble crater]

If you join somebody else you don't lose any attempts at all, only if you host

[zinc phoenix]

if you join and lose, you lose nothing. if you join and leave you lose an attempt at whatever level you are at. if you join and win you get penance progress and nothing else

so the incentives for me as a mission joiner are wack if i can lose an attempt for losing the mission

[analog agate]

Ahhhhh

[zinc phoenix]

because i gain nothing but lose something valuable. the host has stake in both directions: they get a rank up or they lose an attempt

[analog agate]

I join cause I want the skin haha

[zinc phoenix]

the host is also the person who can decide if they want to kick off the mission or not

[zinc phoenix]

thats the penance progress

imo if you as a host are kicking off missions with people you dont think are good enough then youve made a mistake

[analog agate]

Yeah, I made it to 40 without ever hosting

[zinc phoenix]

i hosted some and got to 40 with a join

[analog agate]

👍

[jaunty tiger]

Did your assignment level update properly

[zinc phoenix]

if you did it before the end of the week it did

[jaunty tiger]

It did something weird for me

[analog agate]

It would update this coming Sunday. I got to 36 last week

[jaunty tiger]

I cleared 40 and at the reset it updated me from 16 to 23

Idk why 23 of all things

Might just be a bug so I'm seeing if it updates right next week

[marble crater]

Damn, scammed

[jaunty tiger]

The weird part is it still says I'm 40 lol

[zinc phoenix]

did you do a 40 during the reset?

[jaunty tiger]

Even before I did my clear this week

[jaunty tiger]

I did it before the reset

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️

[jaunty tiger]

Ya idk it's whatever

Just confusing

[heady perch]

thanks pookie

[marble crater]

Doing a mission during reset didn't give me anything at all, no progress for this week or last week

[jaunty tiger]

I got the 40k plasteel reward in the level 40 cache

So i know it like, registered my clear

[marble crater]

Did you get the penances?

[jaunty tiger]

Ya

[marble crater]

Weird

[jaunty tiger]

I have true survivor and havoc forged so idk

Other ppl also saw me at 40 even before I did my weekly clear

For this week

[zinc phoenix]

true survivor is the only one i still need

it shouldnt be hard, just need to get a group together

[marble crater]

That's 35+ without downs?

[zinc phoenix]

yeah

which isnt too bad

rotate books, bubble boi

fourth slot whatever

[autumn lark]

this works well until you make a single mistake

[near wyvern]

Got it on my first 35 clear with randos and no voice coms 😅

[zinc phoenix]

nice, im looking for a 35 host b/c i figure its way easier doing it at that diff

[near wyvern]

EP smite with creeping flames goes hard for fourth

[zinc phoenix]

the only over 35 i've done is a 40 clear

[radiant ice]

Well hello there

[marble crater]

[zinc phoenix]

and the psyker popped at the last second 😂

[near wyvern]

Oof

[zinc phoenix]

if youre free 👋

[analog agate]

The double boss spawn is what has gotten me. People don’t know their roles. Vets and zealots will keep doing hordes clear with dsiv when the bosses are on psykers

[jaunty tiger]

Not if the mistake straight up kills you apparently :^)

I didn't play with him so idk if this is true

But apparently my friend said he got his true survivor in a game where he died

[zinc phoenix]

lol

[jaunty tiger]

U just have to get deleted without going down

[zinc phoenix]

that actually makes sense

[jaunty tiger]

Technically no downs!

[autumn lark]

i had a perfect composition with dawn but i got trapped on the droptown to the logistratum railway so i couldnt get freed

[zinc phoenix]

because the state machine doesnt pass thru down state if you just die

[autumn lark]

and then the team wiped

[zinc phoenix]

so they wouldnt hit the call for changing it

[jaunty tiger]

35+ getting separated is death

Every failed group I had is bc people still playing like its auric mael

[zinc phoenix]

yep

[jaunty tiger]

And wander off even slightly

[zinc phoenix]

you can get away with it in the low 20s still

but in the 30s splitting up is fuckin death

altho

i did have one zealot in that 40 who was good enough to just roam around at will fucking shit up

the rest of us stuck together as a battle bubble while he just did whatever he felt without issue

pretty impressive

[hollow stirrup]

this is good to know for getting up there in havoc, ty

[analog agate]

Ogryn definitely doesn’t want to get separated haha

[jaunty tiger]

Zealot can probably pull that off yea

I also split off for like a little bit at a time since I run infil vet if I'm playing vet on 40

[hollow stirrup]

me as ogryn main when my team wanders off (I am getting pelted by 20 billion gunners, 5 snipers, and a couple bulwarks)

[radiant frigate]

average zealot gamer

[zinc phoenix]

uh, no definitely not average

[jaunty tiger]

But it's for the sake of the 3 ppl too, if they do that random 20 mauler and 10 crusher from behind scripted ambush, they need your chorus or nades or whatever

[zinc phoenix]

it was the best play i have ever seen no lie

[radiant frigate]

i know

[zinc phoenix]

lol

[radiant frigate]

more like certified dorn shit

[zinc phoenix]

well me and the other guy were rotating book and i was super anal about making sure to only pop mine when i knew his was down so we wouldnt overlap

which did a lot to trivialize things

[jaunty tiger]

Yeah makes sense

[zinc phoenix]

book gamin

[jaunty tiger]

Chorus is insanely good

Better than voc by a significant margin in havoc

[radiant ice]

I got demoted from 36 to 33 after some rather unfortunate events

If you would like to help work back up to 35 later, happy to go for TS

[zinc phoenix]

i am free

i'll hop on now. you want book or another psyker?

[radiant ice]

Oh in a little bit if that's alright? Just away to get some food XD

[zinc phoenix]

sure thats fine

my code thing is running correctly so i am a lot freer than normal today since its the last week before i take off for a while 😂

[radiant ice]

Ah cool! I am just hungry af

So gimme 30-40 mins XD

[zinc phoenix]

i see it is time for second breakfast in the shire 😂

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/flip-off-you-know-it-oh-yeah-middle-finger-nod-gif-17151793

[ripe obsidian]

I'm up for it if you want another body

[unreal wasp]

Yep, found my FGS build, Mk6, Bistol, SG, DD, KF

[gentle vapor]

i wish i new what any of that meant so i could try it too xD i like numbah

[unreal wasp]

Scrier's Gaze, Disrupt Destiny, Kinetic Flayer

[gentle vapor]

ah

[acoustic isle]

TLDR

I crit

I crit hard

i am always edging blowing up

but before i do you're dead

[unreal wasp]

Actually blew up because I forgot I didn't have Warp Unbound anymore and I used FGS special at 100% from Scrier's

Oopsy

[radiant ice]

Sure

Will ping you both after I eat

[ripe obsidian]

:D

[radiant ice]

Should be able to fire through 33/34 easy enough with both of us, now my modifiers aren’t constant gas xD

[clear heath]

next one is gas

i can feel it

[radiant ice]

Same

[unreal wasp]

Holy CRAP my Overkill, just realized

Classic

200k more Overkill than Actual damage

No souls left to bring back

[ripe obsidian]

Wot's your book zealot build?

[zinc phoenix]

some random crap i found on youtube

[unreal wasp]

Reminder: If it's stupid and it works, it's probably not stupid

But I'm an Ogryn player so I'm used to that

[acoustic isle]

If you play ogryn like how an ogryn would act in lore it actually works out lmao

[unreal wasp]

Only difference now is that I basically have a .50cal marksman rifle on Ogryn

[radiant ice]

I love that Ogryn got a sniper before Vet

[unreal wasp]

I mean

Vet has a couple of similar if not better options

But I play melee commissar vet so I use a revolver iirc

Notice trend

Actually

Huh

I wonder if I'd rather have bistol or revolver on Psyker

[radiant frigate]

bonk

[unreal wasp]

[sly jacinth]

T/0 220 is that your level

Damn

[unreal wasp]

220 is my Psyker's total level ye

There's people with 800+ in classes so it's not that impressive

I just play other games

[radiant ice]

I played with an Ogryn earlier who was 1820ish or something

I remember the 18 at the start xD

[feral juniper]

How good were the weekly caches I wasn’t able to get mine

[radiant ice]

Not terrible, not great

Barely any pennies, loads of Plasteel and Diamantine

That’s all

[feral juniper]

Ah alright that sucks

[summer prairie]

uh it was 30k plasteel and over 20k diamantine

for 40

[radiant ice]

This was 35

[summer prairie]

pretty silly scaling then since 35 is barely different from 40

[radiant ice]

It nose dives under 30

[unreal wasp]

Don't you love when a weapon says 79% damage and 61% mobility and it changes it at the end anyway

[analog agate]

I actually couldn’t tell a difference play wise between them. Boss had more hp?

[summer prairie]

monsters/specials/elites have more hp and a bit more frequent hordes

but very incremental buffs

[clear heath]

hordes get spawn and hitmass increases at 35

[feral juniper]

That’s an absolute miserable amount of credits they couldn’t afford to give us more 😭

[radiant ice]

Ehh I think anyone doing more than Havoc 20 is in the millions anyway

[feral juniper]

Like i could do an auric maelstrom and get around the same amount 😭

[radiant ice]

A buff would be nice but not a big deal

[clear heath]

At least we'll never need to think about plasteel and diamantine ever again

[summer prairie]

it's basically infinite plasteel and diamantine if you get that every week

[radiant ice]

The Diamantine was nice, considering it’s a weekly reward

[clear heath]

i only have 1 mill ordo....

[feral juniper]

I still remember pre class overhaul how shitty plasteel was to get

[midnight cove]

jfc party finder invites popping up mid mission is such a stupid function

[shy willow]

what purgastus staff blessings and perks for havoc?

[midnight cove]

I just misclicked one mid havoc

and now I can't even get back in

and can't queue for a new one

[jovial juniper]

Blaze Away
Flak

21st horde is flak right?

[shy willow]

think so

[jovial juniper]

Yeah flak

[radiant ice]

Flak, Crit chance, Nexus, Blaze Away

[wide lodge]

dump stat on infernus force staff?

[radiant ice]

Warp Resist

[wide lodge]

ok thanks

[radiant ice]

It barely builds any peril at all

[wide lodge]

what perks/blessings? 🦊

for high havoc

[radiant ice]

Literally 3 messages up XD

[wide lodge]

sorry I cant read

[marble crater]

Can change crit chance for maniac or unyielding as well

[heady perch]

does surge work with voidstrike's right click?

[marble crater]

Yes, the only staff where it works on the right click

[heady perch]

thanks

bruh last time i touched this staff was like

launch lmao

[radiant ice]

I feel that

Hated the electrostaff since I last tried it at launch

Picked it up a few days ago and it's my new favourite

[analog agate]

Cause it sucked. Ultimate shitty form of smite that could kinda kill shooters better

[radiant ice]

It's insane now

Use it in mid 30s Havoc and shred

[clear heath]

yeah it got reworked from crowd control to single target damage

[gentle vapor]

thank you! let's see how this noobie does with that

[clear heath]

used to just be a tool for stunning 4 guys or whatever

[analog agate]

Its only upside was very fast stunning of muties/dogs

[clear heath]

i used to use it a lot

back in the days where i would stun something before going into melee with obscurus

[radiant ice]

My OG was the voidblast

When I did the closed playtesting, it was the only staff we had

Got so used to it, kept it up during the betas and launch weeks

[analog agate]

Which is funny. Cause man… was trauma meh at launch. And it turned off so many people (me included) cause it was the first staff you got. And it was bad

[radiant ice]

Psyker in general was utter crap for a long time

Private playtest Psyker... yikes XD

[fathom adder]

When the Obscurus was the only force sword

[radiant ice]

Honestly Obscurus wasn't that bad at the time

It's not that bad now even, just totally outshined

The power creep definitely left it in the dust though

Our characters are way more powerful since launch with the talent trees and ability to perfect weapons

[fathom adder]

Yeah, undoubtedly

[acoustic isle]

here is what 39 got me

[hazy moss]

do gunners do more damage on emporer fading light 2 or not?

[gentle vapor]

ok so really stupid question....how do you go above 30 there??

[acoustic isle]

it stacks with emps fading light 1. number 2 is just the 1st mod plus more

[summer prairie]

32 is the last level with ranged/melee damage buffs

[marble crater]

It's a mod that shows the "true" level, because the game still keeps track of exp

[acoustic isle]

basically just copies the same format VT2 did

[analog agate]

A lot of this game is just a copy or variation of vt

[acoustic isle]

which is to be expected mind you

[gentle vapor]

OHHH ok though i was missing a huge progression thing and was worried cause i've been 30 for a bit

[analog agate]

Give. Me. Chaos. Wastes

[acoustic isle]

yep all this game mode does for me

is give me hope they will just put the chaos wastes equivalent in here

[marble crater]

Explain Chaos Wastes to someone who didn't play Vermintide please

[acoustic isle]

almost like a roguelike game mode

go in with your starting gear

go through nodes on a map that are missions

get upgrades along the way

get big rewards at the end if you finish

[marble crater]

[analog agate]

All starting gear is white. You gain boons and get to choose paths for maps and boosts

[marble crater]

That does sound nice

[acoustic isle]

it was actually a ton of fun

[summer prairie]

the fun was mostly the new boons (talents) you could get, sometimes getting fun/overpowered combos. They kind of nerfed a lot of those though

[acoustic isle]

so VT2 did the chests of different ranks based on difficulty giving you different chances of blues to reds depending

[marble crater]

How long would such a Wastes run go on average?

[acoustic isle]

completing wastes gave you ( i recall) 3 of those chests

of max tier for the diff you did

and i usually ran it solo on bots but they could go for a good hour just casually playing i recall.

it's been ages since i last touched vt 2

[analog agate]

Yeah. I really can’t remember but 1-1.5 hours sounds right

[summer prairie]

there's a CW mod that takes it all to ^2, with way more and powerful boons while simultaneously increasing difficulty and optionally length

[marble crater]

[acoustic isle]

but yeah because what it basically did was set the party to a certain base power. then gave you the chance to not only upgrade your gear from white to red with all the perks and blessings

but had exclusive talents that stacked with each other

[upper sun]

i hate the cut scene so much bros.............

[acoustic isle]

so you could run into some crazy silly synergy like you would see in a lot of other roguelikes

[upper sun]

also

[marble crater]

That's some bullshit

[upper sun]

attack speed on fgs is so fucking bad its unreal

its unusable without the attackspeed node

[autumn lark]

Skill issue

[marble crater]

So you lost toughness and health because that is what happens during the mission or because the cutscene fucked you over?

[analog agate]

I tuck myself in the corner with this face looking at my team about to get shot in the face

[acoustic isle]

pox gas mod im guessing?

so the gas happened during cutscene?

[upper sun]

cutscene

thats not normal behavior

[marble crater]

Rip

[acoustic isle]

yeah i heard from folks doing high aurics on the mission that AI and director still does things in the middle of the cutscene

[nocturne dust]

[acoustic isle]

so some folks would load the cutscene

then get out of it and have a wave in their face

[nocturne dust]

I literally normally run FGS without attack speed

it just works

[marble crater]

Standing in every corner during airlocks now

[vapid sparrow]

Using voidstrike and telekine dome, which keystone would be better?

[acoustic isle]

depends entirely on purpose and what you're going for

warp siphon if you want stacking damage and low CD on the dome with stacks

[vapid sparrow]

Im not really sure what im going for i just wanna be a support who also nukes things

[acoustic isle]

empowered psionics for blitz

the 3rd right keystone gives you stacks of damage that build up and crit damage i recall

i never ran it often so someone here who is more familair can explain it better than me

[vapid sparrow]

Fawwk... Hard choice

[analog agate]

Most people use DD with voidstrike

[acoustic isle]

but warp siphon on the bottom left gives you stacks that reduce the CD on your Ult in this case bubble)

which is helpful

[vapid sparrow]

Warp Siphon and Disrupt Destiny both feel pretty good for what im going for

[acoustic isle]

disrupt desitny is there if you want that damage

[vapid sparrow]

Ill go warp siphon for now just bc im lower level thus my damage wont be great so itd be better to healthmaxx

[acoustic isle]

well depends on difficulty honeslty

[vapid sparrow]

Im going malice mostly

ppl in malice seem to be pretty decent at killing things but awful at surviving things

[analog agate]

My advice is always for damnation haha

[acoustic isle]

but more importantly it's just about what you wanna use that meshes with how you wanna play

and yeah most folks here will give advice assuming Damm and other things usually lol

[vapid sparrow]

ill give them both a try for a bit and see what i like ig

[acoustic isle]

the talent at the end for 6 warp siphon stacks plus Ability reduction on all 3 curios

plus CD on elite kill

mmmmm constant dome up

[devout sluice]

You need only cd on elite kill for constant dome as it makes any cdr redundant (as long as you kill elites)

[full kestrel]

I need help with builds I haven't played psyker in too long

what is not good atm

[marble crater]

All staves are good right now

[acoustic isle]

uuuh entirely depends on game mode too in fairness

since Havocs seems to have carved out its own meta for higher levels

[jovial juniper]

Smite Bubble combo

[radiant ice]

Pretty much everything Psyker has access to is good, except Warp Rupture

Certainly some of the "good" ranges, and some picks are... odd ones when others exist

But unless you pick Warp Rupture, you'll be fine outside Auric Mael and Havoc

[marble crater]

Easier if you show a build you want to play and people help with that

[heady perch]

yippee

[full kestrel]

just whatever is meta for damage, not bubble, I can change that for bubble

I mean I just got done doing havoc 40 on my zealot and got rly close to true survivor a couple times. So that kinda difficulty level is what I do

[radiant ice]

^ Also things like Havoc mode requires totally different builds than normal play

Havoc Psyker's typically stack health for example, which is a bad idea in standard or auric play

[marble crater]

Meta for what damage? Single target, hordes, ranged, close? That changes the answer a lot

[full kestrel]

on zealot I know stacking crit and toughness DR is the way to go so I can build anything around that

[full kestrel]

alright then assail IG

I liked assail before

is empowered psionics still shit?

[radiant ice]

I mean if you want meta dps, inferno staff is kinda there right now

And EP has always been great

[lapis violet]

i've just come across a psyker with a quell cancel macro

[radiant ice]

Just not always optimal for assail builds funny enough, DD is better in that case

[full kestrel]

thought it was shit on release

but alr

[lapis violet]

you can't make this shit up

[acoustic isle]

yeaah i was about to feel like the weirdo for a second

[full kestrel]

what sorta melee weapons do you like

[acoustic isle]

always thought empowered psionics was pretty good

[radiant ice]

Both Brain Burst and Smite are great with EP, it's just the buffs from Disrupt Destiny are a bit better than the EP ones for Assail specifically

[full kestrel]

oh disrupt destiny is the one I think was shit, the "highlight this guy" thing

[acoustic isle]

lotta folks are loving the new force greatswrod

Dueling sword is still the silly meta meme it's always been

[marble crater]

For assail you can pair it either with a gun or voidstrike and DD at the end, but don't bring that into high havoc

[radiant ice]

Disrupt Destiny is meta on guns, voidstrike staff, assail and a few other builds

[hasty valve]

should i finally cave and switch to smite for true survivor?

[full kestrel]

ik for high havoc I'd do bubble

[radiant ice]

I'd honestly recommend inferno staff for meta-ish dps right now

Fairly consistent, easy enough to play as a new Psyker

Helps the team and is good when stuck solo

[full kestrel]

I mean my psyker is lvl 86 not new to psyker just havent played in a couple years cuz been horny for zealot

[marble crater]

Maybe something like this, or whatever others will fix about this

[radiant ice]

Oh also @zinc phoenix @ripe obsidian booting up now if y'all wanna fire over a friend request ingame or something so I can add you to the squad

[gentle vapor]

i wish i could take psykinetic aura with assail 😦

[full kestrel]

cheers, was struggling with connecting nodes

[radiant ice]

I'd say the Psyker tree is by far the most freeform

You aren't locked into a path, after each main ability you can segway to the other opposite side if desired

So I'd recommend mix/matching bits you like and seeing what works

[full kestrel]

its definitely the least clear tree

I have something to build off of here so I can prob just work with that, and cheers for the info

[marble crater]

We all wish that

[hasty valve]

For people rocking havoc 40 with smite, what side blitzes do you use? ive barely touched smite in my life

[radiant ice]

Same tbh

[radiant ice]

I can help here!

I have a high Havoc lightning build!

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9daef482-8855-431e-83dd-bea9510bb772/support-lightning-havoc-35-40?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Description explains a little some of the odd Havoc specific choices

[hasty valve]

cool thanks!

enfeeble not worth it?

[radiant ice]

tl;dr: Charged Strike and Enfeeble suck big time, Lightning Storm slaps

Enfeeble only works while you are actively smiting

Not worth the node point

Most people in high Havoc build for breakpoints anyway, so it won't change the number of hits to kill anything

And if an enemy is actively being smited, it can't hit back

[analog agate]

I still think doing smite without shriek isn’t worth it on havoc.

[marble crater]

Smite and bubble outside of havoc
Smite and bubble in havoc

[radiant ice]

It's not a smite build though, it's a lightning staff build

With Smite as a mixed horde lock when needed

Usually to give either the inferno psyker or flamer zealot time to breathe and crowd melt

THen back to zapping elites with lightning staff

Actually using Smite as your main weapon in Havoc is worthy of a perma ban

[marble crater]

I tried EK staff and trying to kill green elites was just painful so I quickly stopped trying to do that

[hasty valve]

yeah ive never had much luck with psykers spamming that shit

but making a build with it just for when people are stubborn

[radiant ice]

The biggest use is hold it on the horde for 5/6 seconds, then let go for the big push. That knocks the whole horde, specials and elites included, onto their ass. Gives your actual CC DPS guy a chance to spread flame stacks or whatever they use

[near wyvern]

100% this, I played EP smite with creeping flames cause we already had a bubble psyker, ez True Survivor

[radiant ice]

Can hold it on a horde during oh shit moments while your team re-establish a choke too

But that's not it's real intended purpose in this build

Usually just the result of a dog or mutie rush when people weren't paying attention

[near wyvern]

RMB build is not worth it, LMB is the way but even still your main focus will be on that EP smite with Creeping flames

[radiant ice]

Hard disagree

RMB elecrostaff slaps in Havoc with Warp Flurry

https://tenor.com/view/bitcoin-lightning-satsback-sats-oprah-gif-26368874

[near wyvern]

LMB suppression too good

[radiant ice]

It just one taps even green gunners

[sinful peak]

well that's my new record

trauma my beloved

[radiant ice]

Throw a bubble and remove gunners from Havoc

Your team will love that

[marble crater]

I can't quell cancel, so I will stick to purgatus for havoc, me thinks

[radiant ice]

Honestly inferno is amazing in Havoc, even my lightning build is sorta built to work alongside with an Inferno Psyker cause it's so good

[near wyvern]

You gotta still learn it so you can puff out LMBs while sprint sliding

[radiant ice]

But little point in doubling up on the same build

[full kestrel]

penetrating flame is a no brainer but what second blessing do you take for the infernus void staff

[radiant ice]

Blaze Away is the no brainer, always take it

[marble crater]

I'm on controller, I will break my fingers trying to learn that

[radiant ice]

Second one is between Warp Nexus and Penetrating Flame

[clear heath]

wtf controller player

[marble crater]

If I had more loadouts I would save that build too

[near wyvern]

Penetrating flame only affects crushers and not enough even for those. Warp Nexus and Blaze Away is the way.

[nocturne dust]

you don't.

[full kestrel]

idk penetrating flame seemed really good when I played with a psyker using it in havoc

[marble crater]

did you not notice while we were playing yesterday?

[nocturne dust]

Techs are unneeded. Embrace tranquility

[near wyvern]

There is a mod for that. On PC.

[radiant ice]

This is your standard crit based Inferno staff

[hasty valve]

would you say creeping flames is mandatory to make ep smite work?

[vapid sparrow]

Is it just me or are most free psyker cosmetics really weird looking

Big wide shoulders with tiny pants

[clear heath]

idk i wasn't watching you

[full kestrel]

ty will try it out

[radiant ice]

No, I use bubble for mine

[nocturne dust]

40k fashion

[marble crater]

[radiant ice]

Creeping Flames is certainly better, but not mandatory

[near wyvern]

Yes, you need the extra damage to keep it rolling with battle meditation

[clear heath]

sorry i was busy sprinting ahead and leaving you to die

[vapid sparrow]

zealots and veterans mostly have swag though 😔

[marble crater]

Need more by default, for us poor console players

[nocturne dust]

Zealots are mostly hobos tho, and vets are just every military ever rolled into an unholy conglomerate

[near wyvern]

@hasty valve but I would also state that bubble is mandatory so EP smite is only an option if you have 2 psykers in the group

[vapid sparrow]

And somehow they look cooler than psykers

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Psykers are also hobo, but with weird visors

so yeh

[unreal wasp]

I mean

[near wyvern]

I have a weird B tier veteran helm

[nocturne dust]

Hobo warrior

[vapid sparrow]

I mean it's alright for a knight vibe ig

The pants still put me off though

Why so small

we need waistcoats n shit we're witches after all

[near wyvern]

You should wear the cape

[unreal wasp]

Funny thing is I'm using the enforcer pants that give you thicker legs

[vapid sparrow]

💀

[unreal wasp]

A nice inbetween for the skinny jeans and baggy pants

Also thick metal on the lower legs

[nocturne dust]

Space Marine pants when

[unreal wasp]

Would if I could ngl

Wearing funny power armor backpack for now

Only way for me to have a cape rn is to actually just be a hobo

Easier to tell that the legs aren't skinny with that top though, that torso armor is just bulky as hell

[marble crater]

Gun psyker skin, is what that is

[zinc phoenix]

oh baby

[full kestrel]

nice

[marble crater]

And now he never plays havoc again

[full kestrel]

I haven't died yet in a true survivor run, and I've tried 4x, but don't have title yet

[zinc phoenix]

Yep

[full kestrel]

darktide be like

[zinc phoenix]

Fuck that was so hard

[jaunty tiger]

i got it by accident

we only realized after the fact lol

[zinc phoenix]

Did you take the penance reward?

[nocturne dust]

it has to be the full team, no?

[zinc phoenix]

Yes

Nobody goes down

[full kestrel]

yes

[zinc phoenix]

Did it with a pug group and no mods so it turns out anything is possible

[wet cloak]

Isn't the first armor you could get by doing challenges essentially primaris psyker armor?

[zinc phoenix]

If you’re willing to abuse book super hard 😂

[wet cloak]

Of course in darktide it's all just cosmetic

[nocturne dust]

anything is possible with enough choir bois

[zinc phoenix]

We did two choir boys with bolter, vet with plas and krak and probably the most obvious macro lmb surge spammer in history 😂

But no complaints here, that dude cleaned house

And his movement tech was next level

[timber cairn]

Fellow psykers, do you get any material rewards for havoc at end of week?
I thought I saw it rewarded me with 15k plasteel for making Havoc Lvl31 but it's not in my inventory

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I got asstons of mats for the 40box

It’s definitely in the account

[timber cairn]

wtf it didnt gfive me any

[zinc phoenix]

That sucks

Oh and I built my choir boy without martyrdom so it was pretty white knuckle lol

[nocturne dust]

It was taxed at 100% rate

[zinc phoenix]

Oof he’s bri’ish

[acoustic isle]

It's the witch tax im afraid

Gotta fund the witch hunters

[nocturne dust]

I don't think martyrdom is even good for Havoc

[timber cairn]

relogged, it's there

[marble crater]

Maybe so low you didn't notice?

[nocturne dust]

You want the cooldown rate from crits

[marble crater]

Nevermind

[zinc phoenix]

I genuinely don’t know, all I know is I’m never playing havoc above 25 again 😂

[timber cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-gif-25567321

[nocturne dust]

But bubble meta

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[zinc phoenix]

I am back to the good old meleeker with mk8 fgs

[acoustic isle]

Honestly folks just doing 25 just to get the leggings and nothing else i feel for you

But im in too deep and i need that 40 clear

[zinc phoenix]

have your eyes constantly peeled for a 40 group

[acoustic isle]

Work shift just ended waiting for wife to get home to eat and then im back on the grind

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve yet to host anything higher than 22 😂

[acoustic isle]

Honestly i have no doubt this is gonna be my brother. He's gonna go to 25 for the leg armors then that's it lmao

[nocturne dust]

you should at least host a couple 40s, spread the rank

[zinc phoenix]

Fuck I am so happy I got true survivor 😂

[acoustic isle]

I pretty much manually grinded to 26

[zinc phoenix]

Oh god that’s horrible

[acoustic isle]

Then joined a 39 lmao

Im so close

[zinc phoenix]

I kept host hunting to skip a ton of levels

[steel flame]

Oh cool, vermintide 2 just got a new campaign, on a monday

[acoustic isle]

So wild to me that vt2 is still getting content

[zinc phoenix]

I liked it but i don’t need another horde grinder

[steel flame]

And it's getting more content more often than darktide too

[zinc phoenix]

And it didn’t really grab me

[acoustic isle]

Sshhhh dont remind us

[steel flame]

That's what our party did

[nocturne dust]

can we go back to local hosting 😭

Plz Darktide, I'm begging

[steel flame]

God that sure would be nice

[royal cove]

Whats inferno dump stat

[acoustic isle]

That isnt you asking for solo mode is it?

[nocturne dust]

warp res

[acoustic isle]

That'll get yah lashings

[nocturne dust]

no, that's a separate ask

[acoustic isle]

You dont ask for solo mode remember? It's le co op game

Make friends 4head

[zinc phoenix]

If you want solo mode just play on malice

[steel flame]

Maybe we just want a lobby where we can see our friends without having to win the lottery 😭

[zinc phoenix]

They’re basically bots

[acoustic isle]

Lmao

Me when i gotta mod my game to use a feature the prior game had

[clear heath]

If you want solo mode, we have barrels for that

[nocturne dust]

flashback to when I decided to play sedition and joined a group of high rankers that were clearly like me and waaaaaaayyyy too good for the difficulty

[zinc phoenix]

And honestly it’s pretty fun helping them through a level as they get merked by a single pox walker or three of them get soloed by a rager

[ripe obsidian]

Request sent

[acoustic isle]

Honestly i feel they'd get pretty bored lol

Some schizo 500 levels higher just nuking a mission solo

[ripe obsidian]

I envy you. I have lost every single run today.

[steel flame]

Stop giving me PTSD of getting Merced by single poxwalker on havoc 40

[zinc phoenix]

I can’t jump in a game, too late. Wife has laid down the law 🙏 I am done until the baby goes to bed

So you know back to work

[steel flame]

🫡

[zinc phoenix]

yess my big thing is working finally

this is great, i have no real other work things til my break 😂

[upper sun]

man

im gonna say it

i hate fgs

fgs feels so unwieldy

i think im gonna keep running diemos

[patent mango]

trolled

it'd work nicer if you hit them with it

[hazy moss]

inferior mk8

thats your problem

[upper sun]

i hate the other mark even more

weird ass moveset

[fiery stratus]

Fgs needs more mobility

[wicked hornet]

what is the best way of lvling up a weapon?

[hazy moss]

me when weapon swings in normal sword swipes: wow what weird ass moves

[zinc phoenix]

Mk8 is extremely good

I actually prefer it to the mk6 now

[hazy moss]

unga bunga brain not advanced enough for push attacks sorry

[zinc phoenix]

It’s important to learn especially for the force swords

Bc you can push over mauler and force bulwark to open up shield

And then the heavy is a mega poke to kill them

So you can cleanly and safely work through a group of em

Well… so long as you don’t miss the poke which sometimes I do 😂

[fresh reef]

Is shriek viable if you don't have a bubble on the team?

I keep skill issuing to shooters lol

[analog agate]

On? Havoc?

[clear heath]

have you considered swinging the sword?

[radiant ice]

Accepted!

[radiant ice]

No worries, the law is the law! XD

Pls Dukane, have mercy

I really should stop accepting just anyone

XD

Even tho last game was decent teammates, just an unlucky run

Not been the case for the full day XD

I was 36 earlier

[clear heath]

you're gonna demote into pox gas again

[radiant ice]

pls no

[analog agate]

I can help if you need it.

[radiant ice]

Wouldn't say no

Just taking a 10 min break for coffee and such

What class/build you wanna run?

[nocturne dust]

That's not how you melee on any weapon

[clear heath]

yeah if you walk around spamming push on deimos, you're not gonna kill the maulers either

literally could've spammed heavies and killed everything in the time that clip took

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Speedy psyker

[clear heath]

all i wish is for sprint attack on the mk6 to be the stab instead

[nocturne dust]

I would take Relic blades having a eh sprint attack like FGS if relic was better than it is

[analog agate]

I have builds for every class. But if you want the most dependable version of my it would be purg/trauma psyker

[radiant ice]

Whatever you are comfortable with. I have an Inferno Psyker and a lightning Psyker built to support Inferno if there already is one xD

[nocturne dust]

I honestly kinda hate the sprint attack gimmick on Relic blades, they just feel kinda pathetic unless you also use FotF.

Zealot has other abilities, Fatshark, stop expecting them to run FotF

[clear heath]

I like that the relic blade sprint attack speeds you up so much when you're charging it

give me that on fgs

please

[nocturne dust]

that is nice, yeah

[clear heath]

i simply want to move faster

[nocturne dust]

I have always wanted meleeker to be speedy

We lack toughness so give us speed

[clear heath]

and also starting the single target combo on fgs is kinda weird with how having the sprint attack just makes your combo worse

adds an extra heavy required to reach the stab

it's actually just detrimental

[nocturne dust]

FGS is supposed to be 'agile' and 'light'

[clear heath]

the light is good for reaching horde clear combo but it's literally the same as the slide attack

[nocturne dust]

lol

[shadow wigeon]

Winning games. Everything else costs a lot of materials, and if you'ew new, you're going to want to save them up when you know what weapons you like.

[upper sun]

yeah i didnt melee because i didnt feel safe meleeing with it

[clear heath]

tfw when i have to actively avoid using the unique combo starter because it makes the combo worse

[clear heath]

just feel safer

i saw a lot of times where you literally could've just heavied the mauler twice and killed it

instead pushing 6 times

[upper sun]

no

[nocturne dust]

The best way is just buying them from Brunt and levelling them to green to sacrifice. It gives tons of xp quickly. Games is only if you don't have the resources, but they're super easy to acquire.

[upper sun]

too slow

[clear heath]

iframe the mauler as you do it

[upper sun]

i NEED to play relic instead

[clear heath]

press the dodge button

[nocturne dust]

just attack

[upper sun]

😨 NOOOOOOOOOOO

[clear heath]

insane concept

[patent mango]

press m1

[marble crater]

Just dodge

[upper sun]

NO

[nocturne dust]

also don't use the push attack

[upper sun]

IM BLONKING

IM GONNA BLONKMAX

[nocturne dust]

push attack actually eats time like a mfer, not useful on most things

and only hits 1 anyway

[shadow wigeon]

If you're playing lower difficulty levels - which most people still are - resources can be really slow.

[marble crater]

The hell is blonking?

[analog agate]

I'm ready whenever

[upper sun]

its the psyker equivalent of shield planting

[shadow wigeon]

What are ya'll running for Curious on 30+ Havoc?

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ I had an abundance even when I was running only heresy, but you do you.

[nocturne dust]

Nonsense

[radiant ice]

Health, with added health

[nocturne dust]

Something like corruption resist, ability cooldown, and stamina

[radiant ice]

And corruption resist

[nocturne dust]

on health curios

[analog agate]

I'm running the same stuff as mael haha.

[radiant ice]

Basically all the meme tier stuff for usual Auric/Standard

[radiant ice]

3 of these bad boys

[shadow wigeon]

I did switch to TTT with CDR/H/T on them

[radiant ice]

(Which is a terrible idea in normals/auric but with the modifiers in havoc it shreds)

3 Toughness is a bad time above 30 Havoc

You go from 60 to like 80

Still with no grace

[worldly dust]

I'm working on a melee psyker build, its pretty fun so far

[shadow wigeon]

I'm not finding gunners to be a problem still, bubble/deflector is pretty wired.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, melee will also eat your toughness anyway

[shadow wigeon]

but only TTT when H is on all 3, otherwise still HTT

[nocturne dust]

not a huge benefit

Also, I haven't tested it, but mathematically toughness regen speed may be really, really good on Havoc

[shadow wigeon]

Well it is for good melee tanking, I am not taking a lot of health damage most matches, if any.

[unreal wasp]

When you have 3 zealots on your team, activate Scrier's Gaze as a FGS psyker and you say, "P u r g e T h e H e r e t i c"

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah I was curious about this next

[unreal wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-carl-weathers-gif-5129663

[radiant ice]

Without the grace it doesn't use the old Zealot build immunity thing

[nocturne dust]

No, but for melee it'll be

Everyone dies to ranged anyway

run bubble

[radiant ice]

The T's are just an absolute waste on Havoc

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[radiant ice]

Awesome back at desk now!

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah im not stressed about ranged damage

[clear heath]

mathematically i believe you
but like how much does this really matter practically with bubbles and chorus and the fact that a melee enemy targeting you shuts it off?

[nocturne dust]

but if you try the toughness regen gambit don't use any toughness stacking

[nocturne dust]

toughness regen speed lets you dodge backwards and immediately start regening when you stack it in auric

so it's good even in melee

[clear heath]

wait, does the havoc modifier for regen speed also affect the delay or just the actual regen rate?

[nocturne dust]

and again, I haven't tested it in Havoc tho

[shadow wigeon]

I am not taking much health damage, which I why I leaned into toughness.

[nocturne dust]

It's the same stat, so both

[radiant ice]

Then take Stam

Toughness is doing literally next to nothing in Havoc

[nocturne dust]

It's additive with toughness regen speed according to a dataminer

[ripe obsidian]

Gimme a couple minutes and I will log back in

[radiant ice]

Good timing, me and diabolic just partied up

[radiant frigate]

hot take

havoc fucking sucks

[clear heath]

lukewarm take

[radiant ice]

I think there are hotter polar bears

[radiant frigate]

someone runs into a daemonhost

[nocturne dust]

My only problem with Havoc is that there's one solution to all the problems

I want it to require strategizing depending on the modifiers

[radiant frigate]

as they are getting their soul ripped out, another teammate gets sniped

now we are down 2 players

[patent mango]

lukewarm take

[radiant frigate]

the remaining zealot just fucking books it to the rescue location

we die

epic

[ripe obsidian]

I am logging in now.

[fringe garden]

I had two separate games yesterday where someone purposefully walked up and aggro'd the Daemonhost. People are so strange.

[ripe obsidian]

The solution being yellow HP?

[radiant ice]

I get it, she's pretty

But Havoc missions isn't the time for that, there are websites!

[fringe garden]

She'll definitely whisper sweet nothings in your ear

[nocturne dust]

The solution being 2 choir bois and 2 bubble bois

[analog agate]

Honestly, most wipes I have experience were because of monsters

[nocturne dust]

That's what the choir bois are for

[radiant frigate]

most wipes i have experienced were people breaking formation for ⭐ no fucking reason ⭐

[fringe garden]

Amen, preach.

[clear heath]

chorus is just broken

[nocturne dust]

but I saw a shiny plasteel all the way on the other side of the arena

I have to grab it

[clear heath]

you just win for the entire duration that it's up, and the uptime is a lot less of an issue with crit cdr being as broken as it is

[radiant frigate]

is the answer to everything just 4 chorus zealots

[nocturne dust]

probably

[clear heath]

I don't see how anything could stop you

[nocturne dust]

until nurgle blessed

[fringe garden]

Praising the Emperor is the secret to success

[nocturne dust]

Havoc 50 will be everything is nurgle blessed

[clear heath]

havo 60 will instantly kill you once you activate chorus

finally balanced

[nocturne dust]

Havoc 60 will instantly kill you.

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[digital narwhal]

@spice veldt BRICK WALL IS REAL
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/LiuMd2rAaW

[nocturne dust]

👀

I saw what you did.

[spice veldt]

BRICK WAAAAAAAAAALLLLL

[heady kiln]

does the toughness regen provided by psyker bubble stack with multiple bubbles?

[digital narwhal]

?

[nocturne dust]

Don't worry about it.

https://tenor.com/view/you-wouldnt-get-it-joker-smoking-gif-15952801

[digital narwhal]

I'm worrying about it.

Tell me now or I'll tell Fatshark to drain your dockets.

[nocturne dust]

Stay calm, imperial citizen, and question not the Omnissiah's ways.

[digital narwhal]

No

[nocturne dust]

(Someone posted and then deleted their vet question in psyker chat)

[digital narwhal]

Ohhhhh

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/civ6-civvi-condemn-heretic-turles-civilization-gif-3134222653005215242

[zinc phoenix]

you dont get hit often but when you do it is doom + you have book and bubble for regen

so the goal is dont get hit

or more accurately throw cc at the problem if it might hit you

[nocturne dust]

right, but the theory is that toughness regen adds even more regen so you can get hit more often

because you'll be at full

but again, not tested

I expect it would matter very little anyways

At least on Psyker who doesn't get further toughness regen from talents

Zealot/Vet tho....