psyker-class

[mellow heath]

Been finding perfect rolls for so many other weapons, makes me sad that what I'm investing my actual resources into leveling is my weapon with a slightly not perfect roll 😔

You had another person respond to you too saying warp res

(oh, hey, I have image perms now, guess I sent enough messages)

[lyric viper]

oh okay

[mellow heath]

.

[lyric viper]

i thought both messages were directed to the greatsword

[sturdy reef]

its for both

[lyric viper]

[mellow heath]

Tbf yeah, it's the dump stat for both weapons, yeah

[mental grail]

fatshark attention to detail, the cartridges actually appear fired, even though you don't see them for 90% of your gameplay session

[split lance]

@strong gulch

[sturdy reef]

are yall playing havok

[split lance]

Probably not :(

[sturdy reef]

oof

[upbeat kestrel]

havoc is beyond me

auric mael is rather hard in my experience

[strong gulch]

Gonna inhale this rice then we cab team up

*can

[split lance]

Ok I eat too then

Take ur time

[strong gulch]

I'm done. lmao

[late sapphire]

but you can play havoc and get better at the game

and really i don't think havoc is that much harder with an ok team

[sour nest]

Really depends on what Havoc level

[late sapphire]

high havoc with a good team is as hard as auric mael with a good build

[split lance]

I’m
Breathing so fucking heavy tryna eat this cereal rn

[strong gulch]

Ur good lol

Don't die.

I'm... very good at eating. lmao

The only contest I've placed first in.

[split lance]

I’m not good with huge meals or eating fast

I eat slow af

[split lance]

I’m on btw

68

[strong gulch]

[quartz barn]

I assume reset for havoc is tomorrow?

[late sapphire]

it was today

[quartz barn]

Nice

[upbeat kestrel]

i usually play solo and dont have much time

[late sapphire]

you can lfg in the havoc thing and they're usually okish

[quartz barn]

Ive solo lfgd up to 30

Can easily get higher but needed a host last week and those were sparce

[late sapphire]

I got up to about 34 last week

30+ can be rough with randos

[quartz barn]

Depends on the setup, but ye agree

[late sapphire]

Went mod shopping, there's actually one now that fixed bistol it's awesome

[nocturne dust]

👀

wat mod is that

[elder wasp]

having tried that mod, it's... weird, it does some weird camera stuff thats not totally predictable, i haven't tested it thoroughly but from what i recall swapping weapons, or even just exiting ads will sometimes fuck with your camera, like you'll suddenly be looking at the floor

[elder wasp]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/430

[late sapphire]

It says it's interpolating the two positions between ('blends') the two positions

[summer prairie]

does it actually work on the server

There was some discussion about that in the mod comments

[late sapphire]

fatshark knew the game would be modded so of course recoil is server side

But it's not a recoil remover it just smoothes the movement at best you're off a teeny bit

[late sapphire]

this i wanna see mod is a pretty good headache remover, too, just a bit magical to have no flames

[summer prairie]

I use Custom Flames instead now

[plucky flax]

It seems to only affect private offline. In a real game bistol is still janked

The funny random recoil gun

[main wyvern]

when you have ocd and check your 100 unclaimed penances

[quartz barn]

Surge mastery moment

[dull gyro]

whats wrong with it?

(i main boltpistol and idk)

[late sapphire]

i think the invisible flames are cooler

just waving my hands to stagger enemies is more in line with my ideals

[cold geode]

Boltgun / Bolt Pistol

In this release we added a set of targeted buffs aimed to increase the overall reliability of the iconic Boltgun and Bolt Pistol weapons, but also to significantly improve their performance against specific enemy types and in various situations.

Dev Note: We are aware of some issues regarding the aim of the bolt weapons, particularly in the recoil and sway when shooting continuously.

Unfortunately the issues are rooted quite deeply in the interaction between multiple different systems, so a complete fix was not possible for this release. We are going to continue investigating a solution and provide an update on our progress at a later date.

In the meantime, we have added some tweaks on the Sway and hitscan behaviors which should at least alleviate part of the issue.

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/unlocked-and-loaded-patch-notes-pt-2-out-now/98947

[late sapphire]

ogryn stomp is unblockable?

[wet cloak]

@strong gulch Btw I've been using the assail FGS build you gave me for a while now, pretty good

My damage almost doubled and I survive longer

Now my only problem is that the rest of my team can't keep up and get trapped in corners and eaten by dogs

The life of a melee psyker is hard

[limber silo]

anyone been having any sound/server issues more regularly since the update?

[cosmic sigil]

you should try top verify your files

[upbeat kestrel]

can someone make me a scriers gaze build for the force greatswords? please and thankyou

[quartz barn]

This is basically any gunker / melee psyker run

Atleast you do so much dmg that you can solo carry

[plucky flax]

I know I'm in asian server when all the name and account names are like this

[upbeat kestrel]

thanks

[quartz barn]

Doesnt help that every good player is in havoc, so the quality of pubs in everything else is uhh

[wind spruce]

I love it. I only had time for one game this afternoon and it was ranged mael so I did a normal auric and ran around the end of the event where you've gotta get the three capsules from the middle up to the upper levels for 10 minutes before my three viewers politely asked if we could please finish the mission now

[upbeat kestrel]

also between the force great swords i like the mk6 more

and warp battery penance was easeir than i thought

[charred isle]

hi! anyone could tell me what stats to dump with the blaze force greatsword? defences or warp resistance? why?

[wind spruce]

Warp resistance

[lapis violet]

whats a good havoc build?

anything except gunker or scryer's goes

[charred isle]

bubble is amazing in high havoc imo

[lapis violet]

warp resistance. defenses gives you sprint efficiency iirc which is something you dont wanna skimp on as psyker

[lapis violet]

can imagine, just wanna know the rest

because ive got all staves basically perfected

[summer prairie]

purg is the easiest

blaze trauma probably more damage

[charred isle]

I used to run a blazing blastforce staff, good cc, good aoe and warp charges with the 10Ç% chance to gain charges when soulblaze kills, works like a charm to me

thoughness replenisment by killing, crits and cooling off

[quartz barn]

Defences is block efficiency + stamina

Mobility is sprint efficiency

[summer prairie]

no defence is sprint efficiency too

[lapis violet]

does it vave mobility?

[quartz barn]

Wait what

[lapis violet]

because weapons sometimes get defenses and not mob

like zealot hammer

[quartz barn]

Why doesnt it say that in the stat description then...

[summer prairie]

pretty sure it does

[lapis violet]

where they dont get speed but the sprint eff mod

then its not a part of defenses for the weapon

[summer prairie]

GS has the same defence template as thunderhammer

[lapis violet]

i havent used it much so I don't know its stats

in which case it should have sprint eff

[quartz barn]

I just run dd for the speed boost

[summer prairie]

it also has block efficiency but it doesn't list it

[quartz barn]

Huh i guess it lists it different per weapon

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/excellent-happy-mr-burns-simpsons-satisfied-gif-16091269

[split lance]

im ending it all

tonight

[strong gulch]

Yes

[radiant frigate]

throw and immediately run/charge the other way

[upbeat kestrel]

vigil station oblivium the bridge there

[late sapphire]

purgatus is so braindead

[upbeat kestrel]

yes

[radiant frigate]

yes

[late sapphire]

1.5mil damage 35min havoc

[summer prairie]

with shriek?

[late sapphire]

with shield

[summer prairie]

that's high unless the rest of the team was afk

[late sapphire]

the other guy was smiking

+2 choir boys

[quartz barn]

So the rest of the team was afk

[late sapphire]

most of the encounters just consisted of me and the smiter standing there alternating right clicking

with the zealots killing the crushers

[plucky flax]

I can still win in asian server

[late sapphire]

its so bad but it feels so good

[radiant ice]

I will forever love it for Havoc dog rushes

[summer prairie]

I've only gotten hounds once

maybe it's only on the themed levels

[radiant ice]

Even if electrostaff is my jam, and voidblast is my og. All 4 staves are awesome

[radiant ice]

I seem to get them a lot

[summer prairie]

in what level range? Any?

[radiant ice]

27-36 has been a lot of doggos

Which reminds me, need to get those last 4 ranks today

[late sapphire]

pretty sure its a theme

[summer prairie]

there's a darkness theme with hunting grounds but also a normal hunting grounds mutator, not sure if the latter is being used currently or not

[late sapphire]

i cant play it without the mod that makes the flames invisible

[summer prairie]

I think there's a 5% chance for a theme except on forced ranks (every 5th except 40)

[radiant ice]

wtf why?

I am still sad they toned it down from pre-launch

Where it filled everyones screen

You don't have to optimise the fun out of your game XD

[late sapphire]

migraine

[plucky flax]

I play with max boom and lens flair burga

Maximum eyes bleed

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[hardy delta]

nobody answered me yesterday - are enemies STAGGERED when they are convulsing under SMITE?

[mental rock]

pretty sure that counts as stun, a different status than staggered

may be wrong though

[strong gulch]

I haven't seen the code or anything, but the zealot nade counts enemies as stunned and that nade and smite both put the same debuff on affected enemies.

So I think it's a stun.

[late sapphire]

just watched the zealot jab a sniper with a charged relic blade and it lived somehow

[hardy delta]

so not stagger

a stun

and does skullsrusher work on stunned?

the +40% damage against staggered

[mental rock]

yes stuns put the enemy into staggered state I believe

and skullcrusher is +80% damage if you apply it twice at lv4

[restive stag]

does psyker have any good melees that can deal with crushers and monstrocities
i dont really have any problems with literally anything else and this is the sole purpose i need for a melee weapon

(i cannot use ds)

[mental rock]

knife

deimos is alright

[restive stag]

knife has the same latency issue on other servers
i just want something that deals a buttload of damage to solely crushers and monstrocities

[mental rock]

rashad I guess if you are worried about latency

[restive stag]

rashad can handle monstrocities?

[late sapphire]

deimos

[mental rock]

its the next best after deimos

[late sapphire]

force greatsword

[mental rock]

havent tried the fgs yet cause ive been spamming zel

[restive stag]

they dont do carapace well from my experience though

[late sapphire]

yeah they do

[restive stag]

okay i guess

[late sapphire]

ds just does it too well comparatively

[restive stag]

ds does it well yes

[quartz barn]

Fgs can 2 tap crushers with the stab, but requires buffs

[late sapphire]

2 tap with the stab

[quartz barn]

Its also a lot slower than ds

[late sapphire]

but you have to do a lot of fumbling around to get two stabs

might as well heavy attack thrice

[restive stag]

i mean im using scriers so buffs are fine, i'd just rather get a clean onetap or at least a very fast kill on a crusher while still doing respectable monstrocity dps

im literally only going to pull it out for those two express purposes so

[late sapphire]

chain axe

chain axe thrust bloodletter

[quartz barn]

I mean you always open with a stab anyway

[late sapphire]

crusher onetap

[restive stag]

alright awesome thank you

[late sapphire]

boss dps ok via bleed

its also slow as shit

take the one that rips on heavies idk which mark

[restive stag]

that's fully fine by me

[restive stag]

assumin mark 12

[strong gulch]

Not the 4

[restive stag]

yeah mark 12 then

appreciated

[late sapphire]

also cant 1tap in havoc

[strong gulch]

The lock in for the revved heavy is often not safe tho.

I've been wanting to do chainaxe crusher 1 tap meme and keep forgetting. Gotta farm up ordos again.

[marble crater]

Ordos from Havoc were a joke

[strong gulch]

ye

[radiant ice]

I’m not mad about the Plasteel and Diamantine tho

Allowed to me finish getting a 500 of every weapon available to Psyker

[marble crater]

"thanks for doing several difficult havoc missions, here are fewer ordos than one auric mission"

[upper sun]

imagine if this shit was self hosted 💀

actually

wait

havoc doesnt even have plasteel

this shit is less than what id get from 27 in game missions 💀

[late sapphire]

mid havoc 39

fml

[queen fog]

One of my lads crashes like this too if we play DT for too long

[late sapphire]

yeah it's one of the mods

[queen fog]

Hate to see it

[late sapphire]

supposedly

[upper sun]

do you have weapon customization?

[queen fog]

I assume it’s all the tracking of numbers making memory go crazy but idk what the hell I’m talking about

Never modded my DT

[late sapphire]

That might be it i just turned it back on today

[upper sun]

its weapon customization

[late sapphire]

That's not how it works

[upper sun]

do it now

[queen fog]

No

[upper sun]

mod it now

yes

[late sapphire]

weapon customization is going on my stinkylist

[queen fog]

I’d rather not have to worry about updating more than just the base game when I wanna play

[late sapphire]

Get vortex mod manager then

[queen fog]

I already wait for the files to verify

[late sapphire]

It auto updates for you

[upper sun]

bruh

you dont need to verify

[queen fog]

Ik

[upper sun]

WAIT

[queen fog]

But I do it

[upper sun]

YOU CLICK YES TO VERIFY

[queen fog]

Cuz I like being secure

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[queen fog]

There’s a lot of dumb guns collecting virtual dust in my inventory

It’d hate to see them go away

[upper sun]

sir

thats hosted on a server

your inventory is not hosted locally

[strong gulch]

I always have to verify because a file always ends up fecked.

[upper sun]

darktide verify is like internet explorer

thanks for the OS microsoft but ill take it form here

[weary crane]

Anyone know the exact time to quell for quell cancelling?

Or does it depend on the staff

[strong gulch]

I don't even do it through the darktide launcher because steam wants to do it's own verifying before reacquiring the file.

Doing it through the launcher means I have to verify twice.

[queen fog]

Goes to show how little I actually know about servers

[late sapphire]

are you trying to take shortcuts in taking shortcuts?

[weary crane]

Macro, so i can deal with hordes of ragers with inferno

[queen fog]

Another macro sibling?

[strong gulch]

Depends on the thing your canceling. There's LMB and RMB.

[queen fog]

They keep growing

[weary crane]

There's a delay between finishing and charging for right?

[late sapphire]

yes a shortcut

and you cant even be bothered to shortcut properly lol

just get the fullauto mod

spam clicking normally is enough

or idk mess with the values yourself

[strong gulch]

I think I remember the nuber 0.33 floating around. I don't know if that's right.

[weary crane]

I don't use mods but I have synapse so that's easy

[quartz barn]

But lower quell speed from havoc

[strong gulch]

Was the LMB smap macro patched out? Someone was saying they couldn't get it to work.

Or maybe a mod was messing with their macro.

[zinc phoenix]

Memory is so cheap these days, you can get like 32gig for 100 bucks

Just add more mem

[quartz barn]

Buy more ram

[zinc phoenix]

Genuinely yea

[plucky flax]

Download is better

[weary crane]

It's harder for me to do manually but i think it still works

[plucky flax]

It's free and helpful

[late sapphire]

i am at 32gb which is max for my mobo i believe

[plucky flax]

[zinc phoenix]

Something sus is happening

[late sapphire]

yes a memory leak

[zinc phoenix]

I’d check background mem consumption just in case

[late sapphire]

god emperor punishing me for modding

[upper sun]

do you have memory problems with other games?

[late sapphire]

no and im at half memory at worst

darktide is exceeding its alotted amount somehow

[upper sun]

its darktide

[late sapphire]

its weapon customization

[upper sun]

just because you have memory doesnt mean the game can allocate it

remove weapon custom

unless ur super pro like @plucky flax with ddr8 ram dont use it

[zinc phoenix]

I’m tempted to rename my zealot to SisterNunyaBeeswax

[upper sun]

speaking of ram

ddr6 is coming out bros...

its gonna be like the leap between ddr3 and dd4

[zinc phoenix]

Wow the revolution is old

[upper sun]

not like the SLOP that is ddr5

[zinc phoenix]

But the dance must go on

[upper sun]

nah

unironically this one is good

[zinc phoenix]

Oh dance dance revolution isn’t a thing anymore

Weird

[upper sun]

its not?

[late sapphire]

wdym isnt a thing

[upper sun]

ddr is in every arcade

[late sapphire]

Well then again in recent memory i have seen more people play other games on ddr pads than ddr

[upper sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaVrAw1-zrY

ah the good ol days

[late sapphire]

i have a kinect

[zinc phoenix]

Apparently there’s something called Friday night funkin

[queen fog]

what about it?

[late sapphire]

the computer vision prof was just handing em out

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t know, my knowledge of dance and music games is circa 2008

[queen fog]

There’s no dance in FNF, just inputs that make u think there’s dance cuz it’s got arrows like DDR

[mossy oyster]

Now show me every arcade (they are going extinct)

[queen fog]

Just a dude looking for some demon girl

[plucky flax]

Huge

[zinc phoenix]

There’s always a bunch around any tech area that sell beer and food

[plucky flax]

Gonna be 200 quid per stick.

[thorn cedar]

barcades

[zinc phoenix]

Gotta conserve your squid

[pulsar hazel]

I'm considering +1 wounds for Havoc, is that a good idea? Sometimes you simply get burst by 18 shooters at once while at -2 dodges and the revive is doable

[celest valve]

VR arcades are common.

[zinc phoenix]

No, just cower in the bubble near the book guy

[pulsar hazel]

With randoms I can't expect a book let alone decent teammates

[zinc phoenix]

Wow I bet they have to buy a lot of tissues at those places

[plucky flax]

If you are in asia I can play a few now as your choir boi

[celest valve]

this is why psykers are heretics.

[pulsar hazel]

nah I'm EU, but I can probably survive asian servers depending on how west or east you are

[marble crater]

We are talking about the DDR?

[plucky flax]

Uhhh I'm in SEA so the default server is APAC

[zinc phoenix]

I’m a big 7th Panzer fan 😂

[plucky flax]

I think ping to EU and back would be too much.

[pulsar hazel]

yeaaaah no 193ms is a little much

central/south asia gets me 102ms which is... tolerable

[plucky flax]

Omg I can use #vox-lfg-apac

No more using scrubs from emea

[marble crater]

Makes sense with the name and picture

[marble crater]

Hey

[zinc phoenix]

If you can’t enjoy spamming t72 and t55a in unending hordes are you even alive? 😂

[plucky flax]

Oh the havoc thingy resetted.

So do we just get the chests added automatically?

[upper sun]

i think you just have to run the game once

and click her terminal

[plucky flax]

So it's just mats?

And gold?

[upper sun]

ye

and a penance

[plucky flax]

No free hats?

[marble crater]

That reference is more than I get, I know that Oddball is a tank commander and that's it unfortunately

[marble crater]

Free 30k dockets

[zinc phoenix]

Oh it’s a reference to warno, a Cold War rts that is ridiculous fun. Oddball is a character from Kelly’s Heroes. Fun fact, I got the actor for him a credit in warno 😂

Idk what to do with all these mats

I had too many before this box and now I have even more too many

[marble crater]

I will eventually buy all the outfits I guess, and keep 1m for new weapons

[zinc phoenix]

Too bad we can’t sell the materials for cash to sleazy dudes like in the good old days

[marble crater]

I would trade 10k plasteel for some nicer skins

[upper sun]

ehhhhhhh

[zinc phoenix]

I’d trade 10k diamantine for basically whatever

[upper sun]

i kinda only want two things rn

the single skull facemask for zealot and the rashad golden eagle skin

[zinc phoenix]

I want the fancier titles and nameplates, that’s all I’m seeing that I value

[marble crater]

I want the full helmet headpiece for zealot

[haughty star]

Its literally the same jump lol

[marble crater]

And a nice outfit for psyker where I have tattooed hands and arms

[haughty star]

100 percent

[upper sun]

noooo

[upper sun]

ye

at the very least no gloves

[marble crater]

Without looking like a hobo

[weary crane]

hehe

[plucky flax]

Mankind quell cancel discovery for the first time

[radiant ice]

Heretic scum

[haughty star]

Macroooooooooo

[weary crane]

boltgun users and nobody bats an eye

[quartz barn]

I realized something cool the other day

Anything that lowers peril can prevent you from blowing yourself up

Not just shriek

[haughty star]

I enjoy as well

[radiant ice]

You can clutch yourself with the 10% Quell on kill if someone is burning from Soulblaze or something, yeah

[weary crane]

bro playing ReallyDarktide

[quartz barn]

I run the lower peril from crits or smt perk and saved myself a couple times

Soulblaze also works ye

[runic kiln]

wait what else can stop the suicide bomb animation?

[radiant ice]

Anything that lowers peril

[runic kiln]

just getting the 10% on kill proc stop it

oh neat

[quartz barn]

Probably anything that lowers peril

[radiant ice]

It just locks you at 100%

If you get to 97% you are “safe”

[runic kiln]

it helps with peril control obvi but i didt know it also stopped the suicide animation

[radiant ice]

So just need any way to drop 3% peril behind the scenes to escape the boom

[quartz barn]

I think the soulblaze one is guaranteed on burster explosion but not sure tbh

[radiant ice]

Issue is it has to be during the animation where you can’t attack/smack yo head

[haughty star]

I still haven't figured out the right settings for recording in 1000 nit

[radiant ice]

Shriek is definitely the only absolutely sure way to save yourself

But that animation isn’t always game over regardless of having shriek

[echo root]

Taking the chance to quell 10% doesn't seem like an optimal way to spend your talent points.

[potent echo]

nice half a year penance lmao

[potent echo]

is there HDR in darktide yet or isit still autohdr

[haughty star]

Idk? I just have it on lol

[thorn cedar]

iirc they use rtx to do most of the lighting

even if you have it off

[potent echo]

hdr is not related to raytracing

[zinc phoenix]

In any mode that doesn’t nerf quell by 85% this is very true

[haughty star]

Yeah i just have it on and it do its thing. I run a 1000Nit QDOLED with Dimmable zones

[potent echo]

i think any quell node is great in havoc now that they dumpstered the quell speed lol

maybe this should have been vanilla

[echo root]

Do you need it if you're using purgatus? Probably not

[zinc phoenix]

If quell is reduced by 85% yes

[summer prairie]

I had both ER and BM with purg last run

[echo root]

ER + Warp charges + Vent should make it so you don't have to quell?

[summer prairie]

it's only 30% worse than normal with solidity though

without solidity it's pure pain

[zinc phoenix]

Bubble is mandatory in the mode where quell is reduced by 85%

[echo root]

I saw people beat it as 4 ogryn, so bubble cannot be mandatory.

[zinc phoenix]

You are welcome to try being those people

[potent echo]

i just assail harder and its generally fine

only not fine if 2 shooters are behind me

then i die instantly

[echo root]

Nah, I got a decent career for the time being.

[zinc phoenix]

My career is also great 😂 which is why I bring bubble

[radiant ice]

It’s a great node for Inferno builds in general, saving you from a pop is a rare but welcome added bonus

[echo root]

I don't want to play bubble, it's so boring.

[radiant ice]

I am stuck between my love of wall and creeping flames for favourite ability, but I’m at Havoc 37 and definitely using bubble for those last 3 ranks

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah that’s why I drop down to havoc teens or 20s for fun times

[radiant ice]

With no toughness grace, it’s needed

Once I’ve hit havoc 40, gonna join as many rank 1s as I can to earn cosmetics xD

[zinc phoenix]

And that’s the thing about bubble and book. They scoot you up by like 15 levels in performance

[radiant ice]

Havoc 35-40 is just insane to do without optimising the shit out of your build

And just rude not to in pubs

But I’d definitely not take the bubble for 25s and under, Auric/Mael/Standards

Cause it’s not the most fun ability for my playstyle

[thorn cedar]

I'll say the same shit I said when people thought Monstrous Maelstroms required a THammer Zealot -- if it was so important to you, you should have brought your own.

[zinc phoenix]

The only reason hammer isn’t really needed anymore is that everything else got powercrept like mad

[thorn cedar]

It was never needed

[acoustic isle]

Funny enough i always liked playing bubble psyker and smite

So it worked out that it started getting asked for

[floral olive]

hi,
Does souldrinker and/or In Fire Reborn work for enemies that die from soulblaze that is not yours ? also no matter the range ?

[upper sun]

in fire yes souldrinker i have no idea but prolly yes

[thorn cedar]

souldrinker has to be yours and it has to be soulblaze

[upper sun]

issue is with souldrinker its in a very awkard place away from the rest of the soulblaze stuff so its not as picked

[thorn cedar]

IFR = dies with soulblaze on it, in any way
SD = dies by your soulblaze

[floral olive]

so anytime you have a purg psyk with you, you basically have free 6 warp charges all the time

?

[thorn cedar]

just about

[floral olive]

oh ok thank you, weird that they use the exact same wording but actually work differently

[thorn cedar]

Souldrinker is indeed a bit stinky

[upper sun]

minimum of 3-4 id say depending on how much you soulblaze

[thorn cedar]

Understandable that it isn't a global proc like IFR though

Four Psykers would just be untouchable with the bare minimum of Soulblaze generation

[hearty dagger]

Took FGS into Heresy auric (haven't touched high diff in a while bc low level friends) and honestly i don't get the cleave problem

[broken carbon]

cleave issues on most weapons only really arise on auric damnation

due to denser enemy spawns

more elites

mixed hordes

etc

[floral olive]

another question : Does Penetration of the Soul actually work ?

[broken carbon]

although force greatsword doesn’t have any cleave issues until havoc imo

[hearty dagger]

Eh, haven't touched AD in a while so i can't say

Though what i can say is infected 21st also doesn't really hamper it that much

[broken carbon]

others will disagree but

[upper sun]

the devs should be forced to play evi15 and 3 in auric until they rework them

[broken carbon]

high havoc*

[broken carbon]

this is so real actually

do i take a mk3 evis into havoc 40

would that be funny

[upper sun]

no

[broken carbon]

i think it’d be silly

[hearty dagger]

The devs should be forced to play Psyker for 2 years with no new force weapons or until they add more

[broken carbon]

nah psyker got enough toys

give psyker a new staff

then buff evis

[hearty dagger]

Those are also force weapons

[floral olive]

psyker is great in havoc now

[arctic shard]

Hoodguard so real for this, 100% my loner psyker all game

[broken carbon]

and give zealot a melta

[hearty dagger]

Nah, give it to Vet

[broken carbon]

no

[hearty dagger]

Zealots wouldn't know how to use a melta and Vet hasn't gotten a new toy for a while either

[broken carbon]

if vet gets it, both zealot and vet get it

[broken carbon]

we have power swords

thunder hammers

[hearty dagger]

Yes

[arctic shard]

Ogyrn only

[broken carbon]

we can use a melta

lmfao

it’s made to be simple to use

[rapid steeple]

Siblings why don’t WE get the melta instead

[hearty dagger]

More volatile weapons do tend to go to Vet though

[hearty dagger]

It's called staff

[broken carbon]

melta’s aren’t really volatile

[hearty dagger]

Melta Staff or riot

[arctic shard]

My beloved said we don't need more things that go bang

[broken carbon]

and meltas would fit very well with zealots play style

along with thematically

as the melta is a part of the holy trinity

[rapid steeple]

well, you’re just made up in my dream! My beloved says we need MORE bang!

[upper sun]

next patch evi rework, staff specials, ogryn melee rework and zealot tree

trust

TRUST

[arctic shard]

Well my beloved says kill... doesn't say how tho

[hearty dagger]

Personally i think Vet needs something that fits more into either the CC/DoT archetype (Stereotypical melta) or a "Fuck this guy in particular" weapon that isn't the Plasma (Melta in lore)

[broken carbon]

they’re going to buff zealot and i’m going to be so fucking sad

this game has been powercrept to hell

[rapid steeple]

Duelling sword 4 buffed again.
Warp unbound node removed.
Warp damage nerfed

[upper sun]

my prediction is less tax points(this is also a buff)

[hearty dagger]

Watch them add a filler node into Warp Charges to see if anyone notices

[broken carbon]

i’m just talking in general

[upper sun]

oh

[patent mango]

help!!!!! help meeeee

[hearty dagger]

Anyway though Psyker does desperately need new staffs

[upper sun]

ehhhh

[thorn cedar]

i'd love if PotS was fixed and also not shit

[arctic shard]

SIBLING DONT GIVE THEM IDEAS

[upper sun]

psyker is already fugged

what more can they do?

give zealot 3 charges on chastise?

[hearty dagger]

The ones we have have both gotten powercrept by guns and are extremely stale.

[upbeat kestrel]

can someone explain me what this node exactly do?

[upper sun]

no wait dont answer that

[upper sun]

what is it called?

[thorn cedar]

ranged weapons have a draw speed, this cuts that down by the stated amount

[hearty dagger]

Oh.

[upper sun]

oh that one?

[hearty dagger]

That.

[upper sun]

it fucking sucks

[hearty dagger]

The useless one.

[thorn cedar]

staves take 200ms to draw

[hearty dagger]

It would have been decent

[thorn cedar]

do with that info what you will

[hearty dagger]

If Psyker had any weapons that take long to draw.

[upbeat kestrel]

ok thanks

[patent mango]

bolter psyker

[thorn cedar]

this is imo ofc but i think even if you have long-draw weapons it's still a dogshit node

melee is never affected since melee is always instant draw and instant block speed

[hearty dagger]

Also ngl, Psyker penance helmet progression is kinda funny

[arctic shard]

Buff psyker, bring back pre-nerf assail

[thorn cedar]

so this can only impact half your kit and only in one specific interaction

[hearty dagger]

First we get a psykana collar+blindfold, then that with a mouth cover, then a helmet that covers everything except the mouth

[broken carbon]

even on vet, one motion is bad because 25% isn’t enough to make a significant difference

[thorn cedar]

i fucking hate the swap speed nodes so much lmao

Vanguard died for this shit!!

MY BEAUTIFUL VANGUARD

[hearty dagger]

Petition to give the Psyker 53rd and 6th helmet a mouth cover because it doesn't fit the progression of penance armor

[broken carbon]

i miss darktide being like

actually difficult

ngl

maybe this is me being an old woman

back in my day

but like

so much power creep

[quartz barn]

Make penance armor actual penance armor...

[broken carbon]

spawns aren’t ever going to get reverted

[arctic shard]

https://tenor.com/view/pepperidge-pepperidge-farm-remembers-remember-gif-15527169458174144495

[thorn cedar]

back in my day, fire instantly deleted your toughness -- even your stupid gold toughness!

[hearty dagger]

Back in my day being able to do anything past Malice meant you were an endgame player

[broken carbon]

nah that was a good change

but like

[quartz barn]

Now we get to cosplay as moebian 21 i guess

[broken carbon]

i miss the spawns being so much higher in auric

[thorn cedar]

i genuinely disagree

for the fire i mean

[hearty dagger]

We've had that for a while now

[thorn cedar]

i used to agree, like i wanted that change

until they added the trees

[broken carbon]

i think the fire damage should be increased again

[thorn cedar]

then toughness became ridiculously strong

and then they nerfed its one hard counter

[broken carbon]

fire should have a multiplier on toughness damage

oh also

[thorn cedar]

deffo

[broken carbon]

remove fire damage ramping up on downed players

it’s so dumb

[hearty dagger]

Honestly i think the reason we might be getting more and more powerful is because they're going to implement that Blackout mechanic they were talking about pre-launch

[thorn cedar]

nah just make the ramp reset on res

[broken carbon]

yah that works too

[broken carbon]

which one was that

i don’t remember

[hearty dagger]

Basically

You go regular horde shooter

Then a blackout happens and everything scary hiding in the dark comes out

So now you have to hide until it's relatively safe.

[thorn cedar]

im going to assume based on nothing but deduction

[arctic shard]

It's just me tweaking off of the speed stims fr

[thorn cedar]

that the engine or the platforms the game is one doesn't handle massive shifts in lighting like that very well

[hearty dagger]

Maybe

[thorn cedar]

because we dont have any examples of that anywhere so far outside of specific event rooms

[hearty dagger]

Though i believe in fartshark, give them enough time to cook and they'll pull it off

[thorn cedar]

like when Rodin and Rhonda (was that their names?) were roaming bosses

i thought the event would have "roaming blackouts" as described

where lights would be on and off alternating over time

but nah it was just static lights out

[hearty dagger]

Honestly you could also just have Blackouts disable toughness for the duration

Like the rejects are so tensed up and/or the chaos corruption in the area is so high that whatever toughness is just doesn't function anymore

Either blackouts or we might be going to the Deep Hive next.

And as far as we know that place is completely fucked.

[ocean totem]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1043735798517866547/1305984185428742254/1112.gif

Peak mutant gameplay

[hearty dagger]

Ngl though

I wonder what the hell is happening in the deep hive.

Since they say some sectors are off-limits to strike teams.

How bad is it that you have to not send your cannon fodder strike teams there?

[radiant ice]

I can't decide between Empowered Psyonics and Warp Siphon for this build, any ideas? https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9daef482-8855-431e-83dd-bea9510bb772/support-lightning-havoc-35-40?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

It's mainly faster spread of smite vs shield cooldown and a tad more staff damage, which is the main damage source

[ocean totem]

Play gunker

We hate smelly smiteker

[quartz barn]

In havoc 35+?

[radiant ice]

No, did you miss like the whole point of the build? XD

[ocean totem]

I’d say EP

IMO

[radiant ice]

It's a high havoc support build to team with an inferno psyker XD

[ocean totem]

Especially because you’re focusing on support

[radiant ice]

Otherwise I use my own inferno build XD

[quartz barn]

Ep vs warp siphon depends on the team tbh

[ocean totem]

I think EP is much more helpful

[quartz barn]

Nah

[ocean totem]

Can we agree to say it’s situational and personal preference?

[quartz barn]

If youre the only psyker having higher bubble uptime is better

[radiant ice]

Yeah the damage is whatever, but the spread speed is nice

[radiant ice]

But I never am using this build 😛

[quartz barn]

But heavily depends on map / modifier

[radiant ice]

Exactly why the debate exists in my head, yeah XD

[quartz barn]

Because on some maps you can easily get away with one bubble every 30 sec

But having 2 bubble psykers or lower bubble cd if youre the only one is better

[radiant ice]

I mean the build has Psykinetic Aura, in Havoc 35+ even without Warp Siphon that's less than 10 seconds CD most of the time

And again, is specifically designed to partner with inferno bubble psykers

Hence the different aura too

[acoustic isle]

So how did folks build their inferno staves for 30+ havocs? Gonna see what i can put together when i get off work today

[quartz barn]

In that case run ep

[acoustic isle]

Got me a fat bonus of plasteel from a rank 39 chest to work with

[radiant ice]

Wrong one agghhhh

[quartz barn]

Nice inferno lmao

[radiant ice]

This one!

[acoustic isle]

Technically electricity burns like fire

Lol but cool. I take it there's specific talents being taken with this as well. Ive been doin good with smyker and empowered to keep things locked down

[radiant ice]

This is what I run for Havoc 35+ with that staff

[acoustic isle]

Ah brain bursting ranged elites im guessing and warp siphon to keep bubble on low cd

Spreading warp fire too

[radiant ice]

Yup, Burst as an emergency "No one is gonna shoot that sniper, are they?"

And Kinetic Flayer is OP on flame staff

[haughty star]

Id get rid of that bottom right node for a base toughness one from up top

[radiant ice]

Pfft

For Havoc 35+?

Wow a whole 4 toughness

[acoustic isle]

Yeah i dunno i feel toughness is useless past a certain point

[radiant ice]

XD

[haughty star]

Its something

[acoustic isle]

Especially on psyker

Either you get shot or you dont

[radiant ice]

3 of these bad bois in my Havoc curios

Cause Toughness is just pointless on Psyker at 35+

[acoustic isle]

One chaffe gunner gonna kill you in a single burst lmao

Toughness wont save you

[radiant ice]

Chaffe gunner doesn't benefit from Gunner Resist, Toughness with every node and 3 curios can't get above 80

And there is no grace

Toughness stacking is real bad in 35+ imo

Corruption Resist there is kinda a free slot, but I like it for goo modifier

[acoustic isle]

So far my experience is you need to lock things down, play sightlines and always find a way to keep bubble in your back pocket

[radiant ice]

No extra wounds + high health makes the zealot purity aura insane

(Again, anti goo measures, not all modifiers)

[acoustic isle]

I take it with the talents set up the way they are you arent worrying about brittleness blessing

[radiant ice]

Nah that Inferno build is more focused on you being the sole Psyker

So less support, more kill

Penetrating Flame is better on a support build, but that's my lightning one

[acoustic isle]

Never thought about blaze away on staves now that i notice lmao

Does it just count perils as the mag?

[radiant ice]

Blaze Away ticks up each 0.05 second on Flame staff

So 0.25 seconds to hit max 5 stacks

Practically instant

[acoustic isle]

So it just combos insanely fast with warp nexus lol got it

[radiant ice]

Yeah

Blaze Away is essential on the flame staff though regardless

[late sapphire]

it works best if you have a 2nd psyker who is smiting

[radiant ice]

It's just free 40% strength

[radiant ice]

It's almost like my two builds are starting to make sense!

Why I have that inferno one and the lightning one above it

XD

[late sapphire]

idk i dont read this shit

[radiant ice]

They're designed to fit the two typical Psyker roles in high Havoc teams

[acoustic isle]

Nah im just making my adjustments to see if i can get that rank 40 within this week lol

Im so god damn close

[radiant ice]

I'm hosting 36s atm cause demotion -_-

I try be nice and let anyone above 25 in

And it backfires sometimes XD

[acoustic isle]

Im at 39 right now

[late sapphire]

i can only host 33 am at 40 i think i will wait until next week

i've had a few rounds of 30+ with optimal team config and its brain dead boring

[radiant ice]

30 isn't that bad imo

[late sapphire]

purg bubble psyker smite bubble psyker chorus zealot x2

[radiant ice]

35 is when the game goes "Optimise or die"

[late sapphire]

literally just stand there and fire

[acoustic isle]

Shredder frags with shout vet was doing some good work too

[late sapphire]

i did not notice any significant jump in difficulty from 30 to 40

[radiant ice]

I noticed next to nothing in 1-25

A tiny bit in 26-34

But 35 is when it started to feel like everyone had to pull their weight imo

[late sapphire]

we went with the aforementioned team 34 to 39 and it felt the exact same

really boring though

[acoustic isle]

Oh yeah it's just a slog of slowly pushing from fight to fight

Me sitting there smite rotating with the zealot chorus

[late sapphire]

Yeah all of the fights were just the smiter smiting me blazing and the zealots killing crushers and occasionally chorusing

[radiant ice]

I mean I don't smite that much

I use electrostaff 90% of the time

And only smite dense mixed hordes

[ripe obsidian]

Someone let my then-28 ass into a 34. We lost 2x, then someone else was like, "Let's do 40." I tagged along. We won first try, only 1 down.

[radiant ice]

To allow my fire Psyker time to fire without getting melee bonked

Then back to picking on staff

[radiant ice]

Honestly yeah, there are some solid 25ish players who are hard stuck with Party Finder rejects or bad teams

So I let them in

[late sapphire]

it was interesting for a moment when the crushers hammer went up came down and the other psyker turned into a cloud of red mist

[radiant ice]

But 24 and below feels like a bit of a stretch for 37, now 36

[late sapphire]

tbh i would cap it above 30

[radiant ice]

You can get into a 26-29 game easy enough

[late sapphire]

it's what i've been doing

[radiant ice]

Do that first then we talk XD

[late sapphire]

30 is the last big jump

[radiant ice]

Nah there is a brutal gap in moving from 28/29 into 30-33 where no one accepts anyone under 35 for some reason

So I let them into mine

25 feels right

[ripe obsidian]

I need to do more 35+ so I can get True Survivor.

[radiant ice]

Had some great successes with them

Had plenty fails with 3 40s

[acoustic isle]

Man if i can get true survivor that'd be awesome

But ill be happy just getting the 40

[radiant ice]

Nearly got it on Metalfab

Ogryn went down right outside the lift at the exit

Never before have I wanted to kick someone at mission end so much

But I contained myself

[analog agate]

I got denied multiple 20s games yesterday and I have completed a 40. Some people may just want a very specific class/build

[radiant ice]

I try aim for at least 1 Zealot for book, other than that, idc

[late sapphire]

I had a guy hosting a 30 deny me at 39 repeatedly

[radiant ice]

2 Psykers is fine, but wouldn't take 3

So only accepting 1 other than myself

That's really my only conditions

[ripe obsidian]

I think my situation is that I am good enough to do 40 if my team is at my level or better than me, but I am very unlikely to be the best player in the lobby. Rather, if I am the best player in the lobby, we're probably going to lose.

[radiant ice]

I rate my own skill around 35

Cause I'm comfortable but not able to make carry plays

[acoustic isle]

I honestly dont even know man im bad at taking compliments and just assume im dog shit lmao

[radiant ice]

Gonna push for 40 of course, at least once for Penance

Other than that, idc

[analog agate]

I am just going to do 20s or even teens so I can do what I want for the armor. I… am not sure I like havoc enough to go for the badge and title

[late sapphire]

going for 40 is worth it

[acoustic isle]

Just so i can say i did it lmao

[radiant ice]

Yeah I'm gonna get 40 as host, then drop to 1-25s for fun and to earn the cosmetics

But I wanna climb to 40 as host at least once

[late sapphire]

i will be 40 host next week not sure i will touch havoc till then

[ripe obsidian]

I think our 1 down was one of the Zealots at the very beginning of the map. It was the carnival map where you smash stuff at the end, Warren, and we got ambushed by a Beast of Nurgle and a captain, plus endless specials. Got spread out and he got eaten.

[late sapphire]

climbed to 33 host pushed someone 34 to 39 and did 40 i think is good enuff

[radiant ice]

I find Havoc quite fun

But the risk as a host is brutal

[late sapphire]

the modifiers are boring i think

[radiant ice]

And the Party Finder rejections as a joiner is brutal

I do wish the modifiers were less sweaty and more stupid

"Horde dudes have party hats and explode into harmless confetti with a 'yay' sound"

[late sapphire]

it wish it was more havoc

half of the modifiers are literally just 'this match is slower and sloggier'

[acoustic isle]

Me hosting my 39 to get no one joining

Asking to join 40's just to get denied lmao

[late sapphire]

And the other half are goo and brain worms

[acoustic isle]

Yo this was the perfect time to add nurglings

[ripe obsidian]

The slime modifier sucks.

[radiant ice]

It really was

[near wyvern]

Got my True Survivior at 35 with a random group, no voice coms. We had two Psykers and the other one already brought the bubble so I went EP smite with creeping flames for easy sailing.

[zinc phoenix]

Have to pick an in demand class then it’s easy to get in

[ripe obsidian]

Sprint between the legs of larger enemies to gnaw on your ankles.

[zinc phoenix]

Every host wants book bitches

[radiant ice]

That's just me with my minimum height Psyker

[acoustic isle]

Yeah it's one of them things where imma have to eventually start adjusting what im doing and playing

[late sapphire]

they should let us make psykers so small we have to jump to go up stairs

[zinc phoenix]

Well if I don’t feel like a dead person tonight I’ll host some 40s

Tonight America time 😂

[acoustic isle]

Comedically i did make my psyker's height the smallest the game allows. So i look like a midgit next to everyone else

[radiant ice]

Trying to work my way there myself

Was 37 but now 36 XD

[zinc phoenix]

I’m down to join some high 30s missions, wanna get true survivor

[late sapphire]

makes it easier to find cover

[zinc phoenix]

If wife ever gets out of the 🚽 and takes baby 😞

[late sapphire]

i also have a tiny psyker i dont even need to crouch behind cover

[radiant ice]

Same, it's more immersive for me

Even if taller makes melee easier

[ripe obsidian]

I went for highest height so I can see specials

[late sapphire]

To be honest the way ranged enemies work in havoc is how it should have worked in base game if fatshark wasnt a bunch of pussies

getting shot hurts a LOT

[acoustic isle]

It's comedic for me being that im pretty tall irl

[zinc phoenix]

It was how they worked on launch sorta

[upper sun]

just 7 more years and you can teach the baby darktide

[acoustic isle]

Well yeah havoc feels like an old patch i recall getting reversed

[late sapphire]

7? too many

[zinc phoenix]

People wrote whiny screeds about they couldn’t play zealot because gunner oppression

[late sapphire]

Start at 3

[acoustic isle]

Because too many people hated it

[upper sun]

my neighbors kid same into my room while i was playing darktide screamed because it was too scary then ran to his mom

he will now learn to knock

[zinc phoenix]

Your neighbor can come into your house?

[late sapphire]

I'm expecting the baby to clear havoc 40 within half a decade

[zinc phoenix]

What?

Buy a door!

[upper sun]

my mom and his mom are besties

[acoustic isle]

I once played the boss battle music when my mom was visiting

She asked me to stop because it sounded too evil

[late sapphire]

If she thinks it's evil she has yet to see actual evil music

[upper sun]

i hope you did

[acoustic isle]

Yes the evil of my wife being a god damn swifty

[upper sun]

if warhammer taught me anything its that a mothers love can stop or slow demonic incursion

[acoustic isle]

That generic slop is true evil

[upper sun]

this is canon btw

[late sapphire]

i'll listen to any music man

but generic pop slop physically repulses me

[upper sun]

new taylor swift or old?

[cosmic sigil]

The game does need to be a game. Hit stuns mechanics should have been removed 2 years ago

[late sapphire]

U should try getting shot and then come back and say that again

[upper sun]

my spotify artists are 1 ace of base 2 taylor swift 3 metric(one song on loop) B.E.R(3 songs on loop) and 4 alice merton 1 song

[late sapphire]

Are you a swiftie

Oh my god clad is a swiftie wtf

[upper sun]

i like her older stuff

[cosmic sigil]

It's a game. It needs to be playable

[upper sun]

i listen to everything from taylor swift to deathgrips

[late sapphire]

I find it very playable

Matter of fact i just got done playing it

[upper sun]

it took the devs being forced to play their game on stream for this to happen

i swear to god one day im gonna force the devs to play each "path" of each class at gun point

yeah go ahead play ep smite bubble

or book purity marty

[quartz barn]

Wouldnt surprise me if higher tier havocs get nerfed for this reason

[upper sun]

ye

[late sapphire]

tbh

[upper sun]

i said it before when the playtesters were bitchmaxxing

[late sapphire]

this is the one build i can see devs actually pull off on heresy or above

[upper sun]

"no way this shit is geting released like that"

[upper sun]

🚬 ive seen things bratwurst

[quartz barn]

Because rn you either spam the most broken braindead build and play really well or youre sotl

[upper sun]

ive seen keystoneless zealot as a build

[late sapphire]

i watched one dev stream and i was in pain

[upper sun]

i played in one

i felt bad i injected the dev

i know i was supposed to let them suffer

[cosmic sigil]

I have played 3k hours. All classes. All in auric Mael. I enjoyed it. But I still hate hit stun mechanics. It removes your ability to play.

[upper sun]

but... i was weak

[upper sun]

same

[late sapphire]

And yet you were able to play 🤔 so it was playable

[cosmic sigil]

Are you intentionally dense?

That's not the point I am making

[late sapphire]

Very very much so

[upper sun]

this is called a bad faith argument we both clearly know he means enjoyable not the game being able to launch missions correctly

[cosmic sigil]

I had enough of vet chat to engage in futile debates

[thorn cedar]

hitstun from shots is gone anyway

now you just die instead

[late sapphire]

You are a delectable little fish and i am a hungry fisherman

[near hinge]

Anyone down to help a new player

[upper sun]

what do you need?

[late sapphire]

Yeah the hitstun kinda sucks but it isn't that bad imo

[wet belfry]

i despise new players in every form

[cosmic sigil]

That's exactly what I said yesterday. It's hit death mechanics now

[upper sun]

i LOVE new players in every form

[late sapphire]

It's like the stun on gunners in vt2

[wet belfry]

what do you require assitance with

[near hinge]

Lvl up I'm new could use someone to run with I don't like playing alone

[dapper otter]

insert jokes here

[wet belfry]

there are lfg chats in the server at the bottom of the text channels

[upper sun]

im kinda busy for this week but im down during the weekend until then try looking in #vox-lfg-lexicanum then pick your region

[late sapphire]

The lfgs are a bit full of havoc at the moment

[near hinge]

Ok

[wet belfry]

Ye same unforunately right now

[late sapphire]

I believe if anyone here played with you it'd be pretty boring getting carried

When you're pubbing try using the mic you might meet some people

[dapper otter]

supergood advice...don't spec smite. but if you do, be sure to troll zealots with it.

[ripe obsidian]

Nah, man, I suck.

[devout sluice]

I took smite as i lack 1 point otherwise

[late sapphire]

Dont put yourself down you are psyker chats strongest warrior

[weary crane]

I got jumped by shotgunners that spawned in behind me and I was downed in less than half a second

And my poor shield gets obliterated by 100 rapidfire gunners

[ripe obsidian]

That's a bold claim

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/be-proud-you-strong-gif-4114582023911341112

[sullen bridge]

can someone please help me setup a private game, I want to do the cliffhanger penance :)

[sly jacinth]

Yo

[haughty star]

I love helping noobs cuz it gives me a excuse to roll heresy with knife zealot

[radiant ice]

Why do people with clear 9-14 keep requesting to join my 35 XD

I will take 25 or so, 9... tf? XD

[untold niche]

is the new update good?

been addicted to warframe so didn't try

[ripe obsidian]

New weapons are fun. Havoc mode is eh

[untold niche]

wahts havoc mode>

[ripe obsidian]

....the new update.

[untold niche]

i understand.
im asking what does it entail

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/grim-protocols-free-update-out-now

[untold niche]

i was hoping you give a summary

[ripe obsidian]

That link is a summary.

[untold niche]

isn't that the patch notes?

meaning the whole thing

[steep reef]

Anyone still need Martyr Skulls? Would be happy to party up and grab them all.

[ripe obsidian]

Not to be rude, but I'm not going to summarize the update because you don't want to read the patch notes.

[untold niche]

Thats fine but you could have said that one two messages earlier

[patent mango]

the update added markplier

[zinc phoenix]

its pretty easy to just queue malice/sedition and grab them with randos

people are generally happy to help out to get one + if youre a solid player they appreciate the carry lmao

[acoustic isle]

Tldr it's a separate mode meant to get uber sweaty and tough in the later levels. Goes from rank 1-40 the first 20 levels being fairly simple to doable for the average player

New modifiers, hidden modifiers, and you gotta queue with party finder or set up a premade to play it

[untold niche]

hmmm, i saw some of the conditions and it was 50/50
decreased range dmg, explode on headshot
can't really remember the rest.

What makes it hard? is it like baseline auric modifiers plus those?
Also how come not so fun

[patent mango]

shooter hell gamemode

[acoustic isle]

Plus gunners do more damage+ overheads from elites like maulers insta kill you and you gotta be rescued etc.

Reduced ammo given

Less health and toughness as you progress

[patent mango]

havoc is silly

[acoustic isle]

Captains will spawn with a monstrosity later on too

[untold niche]

isn't OH from mauler an insta kill? sorry been some time i can't rmb
Reduced ammo given is good LOL
Ammo econ has been "if you dont have assholes everyone have enough ammo"

[acoustic isle]

As in you dont get downed. You just die

[untold niche]

DAMN I GOTTA TRY SOMEDAY

[marble crater]

Havoc meta is also not fun, because shooters and gunners can easily delete you

[acoustic isle]

Then 30+ is basically mega endless horde spawns

[untold niche]

sound like psyker dream

[acoustic isle]

And yeah the big issue is gunners

It isnt

[radiant ice]

I kinda enjoy Havoc 35 XD

[untold niche]

is ok, i have my knife zealot meant to kill gunners
( i will still get chunked)

[radiant ice]

It's chaos

[acoustic isle]

One chaffe gunner is strong enough now to insta kill you lmao

You cant get caught out

You gotta play like a cover shooter

[marble crater]

You will just die

[acoustic isle]

And always slide cancelling

[untold niche]

:(

waht do you mean by slide cancelling

[untold niche]

sut did you change your profile pic
i recognize the name, not the picture

[acoustic isle]

As in constantly spamming slide and all the other silly movement tech peeps do to avoid shooters

I say slide cancelling i guess that's a misnomer

[marble crater]

Nope, same as always

[untold niche]

isn't that a5mael anyway

[acoustic isle]

Well in an auric you can survive getting clipped by a couple of gunners

Here there is little margin of error

[marble crater]

Auric Mael is more chill than high havoc

[radiant ice]

Auric Mael feels like Sedition now

[untold niche]

i mean, i understand why though tbh

game is power crept and defs can't nerf because fanbase

so what do?

put harder content

[marble crater]

Doing Auric Mael starts you at havoc 16 and there are 40

[acoustic isle]

Make the least liked unit more deadly that's what lmao

But yeah it is comedic how badly people want shield psykers for their games now

[untold niche]

i think the only way to balance DT without touching the player stats is have less enemies and make them tankier so they don't proc so much on kill effects
but that doesn't feel good

[untold niche]

ogryn shield taunt

[acoustic isle]

Nah i really dont think anything with havoc needs to be touched besides not making the damn gunner damage this sadistic

All the extra stuff, thickee hordes? Tougher enemies, captains spawning in the wild?

[untold niche]

is this common?

[acoustic isle]

That shit is awesome

[patent mango]

its true

[marble crater]

Ogryn sounds like a bad time with these gunner buffs

[acoustic isle]

Also taunt shield ogryn is the only ogryn i see

Otherwise i just dont see one

[patent mango]

i just hate the gunners shooting exterminatus rounds

[untold niche]

do they just stand there and special for 30 seconds while the rest of the team cleanup lmao

[patent mango]

gunluggers in havoc are so rare

probably cause ammo economy is joever

[acoustic isle]

Well... more like they hold right click hope the gunners put guns down and charge while you multi task the horde on your ass

[untold niche]

the right click cost stamina no?
The special doesn't unless they changed it

[acoustic isle]

Gotta keep moving though since elite and horde density

I havent seen too much of them though

[marble crater]

You have to play it to see just how strong gunners are now in havoc

[untold niche]

i think many of the regulars were already calling for ammo nerfs but community

[acoustic isle]

So i really cant comment

[untold niche]

yeah hopefully.
Warframe really fun

[haughty star]

Wee were talking about this a week ago or so

[acoustic isle]

Im calling it mode is dead by new years lmao

[untold niche]

mean, its obvious that its not meant for most people

[zinc phoenix]

Literally just hold right click on purg while cycling books mode 😂

[acoustic isle]

Yep basically

[untold niche]

books mode?

[marble crater]

I better get my 50 games for penances then

[acoustic isle]

Chanter zealot

Prayer for toughness

[untold niche]

wait

book zealot is meta now?

tf

[acoustic isle]

Basically meta for 2 book zealots lmao

[marble crater]

In havoc it is

[untold niche]

eeew

[acoustic isle]

They rotate ults

[marble crater]

and bubble psyker

[untold niche]

ok im not going to play this anymore

this is disgusting

this is like shout vet x4

[patent mango]

that was fast

[untold niche]

on that note why not jsut play shout vet

x4

[acoustic isle]

Lmao all it took was saying support abilities were meta to change his mind

[zinc phoenix]

Not as good as book

[untold niche]

book is boring

bobble is fine