psyker-class

[sturdy reef]

the movement speed feels nice

[late sapphire]

warp unbound is at least interesting

[sturdy reef]

lemme feel like a zealot

[late sapphire]

really it's what scriers gaze should have been

damage buff and 15s of free casting

[restive stag]

wish i could effectively use my flamethrower with it however i'm stuck using bubble because obvious reasons

[celest valve]

also ok yes the -20% peril generation talent is bad.

[hazy moss]

move speed side node gud

[nocturne dust]

Nice but very niche since the ability itself isn't really good with most staves

turns out

+damage isn't needed on the cool stuff

[celest valve]

learn the ways of suppression, stop fearing the gunner.

[restive stag]

ok however bigger number gooder

[weary crane]

https://youtu.be/dfCFlC9vboo?si=lq7ygPa-Gte31dT3

I'm so annoyed I didn't record the first half of the clutch

[restive stag]

not possible sorry i am terrified they shrimply ignore the suppression

[mental grail]

whats the peak agripinaa revolver setup?

[celest valve]

then you're not scary enuf

[restive stag]

and also my teammates start throwing rocks at me

[celest valve]

and/or not aiming close enough to them

[nocturne dust]

It's not about the size of the number, it's about how you use it

[restive stag]

probably both

[restive stag]

its about both

[nocturne dust]

Love me my direct damage purgatus

small number

much damage

[celest valve]

oh that's easy, combat knife or dueling sword in the melee slot to outrun your teammates :v

[rare mesa]

wdym by direct damage purgatus

[restive stag]

i outrun them butn ot their rocks and tomatoes

and mean words

[late sapphire]

cranial corruption reapers

[celest valve]

their bonehead implant is malfunctioning, they clearly forgot damage boosts also work on dots :p

[nocturne dust]

A lot of people discount purgatus' direct damage because it seems small, but it actually does quite a lot of damage if you don't shake your screen all about like a crackhead

because Blaze Away go bbbbbrrrrrrrrr

[restive stag]

i mean its like 300 per hit and it hits like 2-3 times a second

its actually very high

[rare mesa]

ppl dont stare at their enemy being burnt to a crisp?

[restive stag]

(with blaze away and like. 0 other buffs)

[celest valve]

also, flamers have rampup mechanics.

that a lot of people seemingly do not know about

[nocturne dust]

Some don't because you can stack soulblaze quicker by shaking super hard

but it's very hard to time and imo, not worth it

[radiant ice]

I do that anyway cause I’m a crack gremlin

[nocturne dust]

Well don't

[radiant ice]

“If I shake violently they will die faster” turns out to actually work

[nocturne dust]

I'll hunt you down and take your staff

[celest valve]

(which is significantly faster the closer you are to the enemy along with the damage. you're doing about double base damage with direct damage and ramping up twice as fast if you're next to the target compared to at the edge of effective range)

[radiant ice]

I never knew that was an actual mechanic xD

[nocturne dust]

and then turn it into an extension of my FGS

biggger sword

[celest valve]

also, yes, you only need to be aiming at a target and 'hit' them 34% of the time.

[restive stag]

average psyker stratedgy

[celest valve]

(burning application is far more forgiving afaik)

(you I think just need to 'tag' them with a single hit during the burn application rate plus the distance based timer increase)

[radiant ice]

There’s a reason I play Psyker

[nocturne dust]

To be fair, it's incredibly hard to separate direct damage and soulblaze damage in testing

[restive stag]

youre doing it wrong youre supposed to use the staff as a hilt to imbue the sword (or i guess spear) with the staff's warp goodness

[celest valve]

carapace armor with rending

and/or brittle

actually that might work on warpfire too uh hmm

[radiant ice]

Force Naginata

[clear heath]

it does

[restive stag]

real and true

[nocturne dust]

it does

[sturdy reef]

force dagger

[celest valve]

anyway the direct damage still seems to be significantly more vs carapace compared to the dot damage

[nocturne dust]

yes

but it's still not that great

[late sapphire]

force halberd is real

[radiant ice]

I want a force shovel

[restive stag]

force toothpick

[steel flame]

Zazy has decided he is finished with havoc

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/helbard-halberd-hellebaard-gif-9115381785007593493

[restive stag]

true and real

[steel flame]

Hopefully we get actual content soon

[nocturne dust]

I want a force halberd that has twice the attack range of FGS

and has a vertical warp slice to delete bosses and crushers

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[celest valve]

also a lesser know nmechanic is that critical chance increases the application of burn stacks but

[radiant ice]

Pfft that’s all the content we’re getting for 2025, hope you’re ready to spend more in the mtx store for slight recolours!

[nocturne dust]

that's well known

at least I thought it was

[sharp shoal]

we get a new vet weapon in 25

[radiant ice]

Literally the main thing about the staff

[sharp shoal]

could be nice

[steel flame]

I wish I didn't believe that

[restive stag]

i heart critical chance

[nocturne dust]

FGS tho

[radiant ice]

Is that it applies 2 stacks instead of 1, raising the cap to 16 instead of 15 without a crit

[potent echo]

Where staff 2

[restive stag]

okay i might swap to scriers... maybe...

[steel flame]

True

[nocturne dust]

Big lasgun

whatever it's called

hotshot or something

[celest valve]

also yes this means that everythign but the finesse/weakspot damage helps flamer staff.

[radiant ice]

I have a crit inferno build with bubble for Havoc and it’s making 35+ a breeze

[steel flame]

But it would be nice to use the fgs in content that was actually fun

[late sapphire]

ok but in turn you cant walk you can only crawl slowly

[restive stag]

yeah thats what im doing aswell
might i ask what you run as a melee

[nocturne dust]

lmao

switching to staff for mobility

[steel flame]

I've had my fill after 1 week of havoc I'm not doing 40 for 20 weeks

[sharp shoal]

to be fair

[radiant ice]

Mk6 greatsword for heavy spamming crushers to death, since they are basically immune to fire

[sharp shoal]

the fgs itself

[celest valve]

damage_time = self._damage_times[index] + distance / self._range * 0.4 anyway. This is added to the 'burning intensity' duration that you can see in the stats.

[sharp shoal]

is like maybe 10 pounds

and thats mostly the hilt

[radiant ice]

Duelling sword also works

[restive stag]

awesome

[sharp shoal]

its actual info from the lore

[nocturne dust]

I'm sure we're getting Atoma Wastes

[radiant ice]

Anything to tap crushers with basically

[sharp shoal]

their very light weight

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[late sapphire]

swords are not that heavy

[sharp shoal]

because the psyker powers it up to make it strong

[celest valve]

This determines how long until both damage is dealt, and damage ramps up to increase it for the next tick.

(this is independent from burn stack application)

[restive stag]

thats like 2 lbs heavier than a zweihander i doubt that heavilly

[sharp shoal]

its from the loe

lore

but idk if its true or not

i imagine the zealot relic blade weighs more

[steel flame]

Can't wait to see that dumpster fire after how well they fucked up weaves for the second time in a row and somehow made it worse this time

[sharp shoal]

then the fgs

[restive stag]

that is to say 10 lbs is not light for a sword at all

[sharp shoal]

it depends on whos using the weapon

[celest valve]

what this means is that direct damage and ramp up is roughly half as fast/much at effective range compared to point blank.

[late sapphire]

a normal greatsword weighs about 5 lbs

[nocturne dust]

Is this worse than Weaves? I didn't play VT2 when weaves were released. At least it's not DLC locked.

[fiery stratus]

No this isnt worse than weaves

[sharp shoal]

the chainsword

is 6kg

so can't be that far off for the force one

[steel flame]

It is if you aren't your parties host

[late sapphire]

Then again the fgs blade is huge

[fiery stratus]

Weaves have set spawns that are painful and aids, and theres about 10 limited factors that made it dead on arrival

bro thats this entire game

[radiant ice]

You’re forgetting about fantasy bullshit™️

[fiery stratus]

you cant qp and not get shit teammates

[sturdy reef]

weaves had an entirely different gear set and progression didnt it

[sharp shoal]

facts

[sturdy reef]

lol

[late sapphire]

Yeah i am

Well it is fantasy bullshit sized

so 10kg isnt a shock

[heady kiln]

hi, does kinetic flayer work with the inferno force staff? I was looking to use this build and was looking to move a point to it if possible but didnt know what to move

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da611bf-3ad5-45ea-adad-c1688476fabe/hechs-havoc-lvl40-purg-bubble-build

[restive stag]

i could see relic blade being like
12 lbs because of how big the blade is and potential internals

[late sapphire]

it does

[radiant ice]

Kinetic Flayer is top tier for inferno staff

[restive stag]

but even then swinging it for more than like 10 minutes would feel terrible

[radiant ice]

It not only works it’s amazing

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide

Here, read this

[fiery stratus]

they're going for darksouls logic with sword size

[sharp shoal]

i may try purg staff

[celest valve]

the burn application is again independent on this, and afaik only hitting someone once per burn application interval is required.

[heady kiln]

ok

[rare mesa]

do u prefer prefer purg or blast staff for high havoc

[rapid steeple]

Cool interaction, I’ve had flayed proc on force sword push attacks

[nocturne dust]

I would drop wildfire for battle meditation in high havoc, grab bubble, and swap to Empyric Resolve

[rapid steeple]

Both

[late sapphire]

I should try out purg

[rare mesa]

okie dokie

[nocturne dust]

crap

[late sapphire]

I'm running blaze trauma and i have been suffering around 35 pubbing

[nocturne dust]

I have to modify my guide for havoc don't I

[rapid steeple]

Just cleared havoc 40.
1 shouty vet. 1 chorus zealot. 2 bubble pyskers. Rend trauma and purge staff

[steel flame]

They fucked up the entire system around havoc. Even if the gameplay is light-years better

[late sapphire]

Sometimes horde is too large for trauma

[primal plume]

What bosses should I apply the brittle debuff with fire staff?

or whatever the debuff is

[rapid steeple]

Is brittleness worth it with fire? I run blaze away and nexus

[steel flame]

It's really not worth it

[late sapphire]

BA Nexus outperforms it almost always

[primal plume]

That seems to be the meta. Shout vet, chorus, and a bubble psyker. Ogryn is useless ive heard

[nocturne dust]

It's 2nd best after nexus

[rapid steeple]

Nahhh ogryn pulls his weight

[celest valve]

hmmm. also you might actually increase warpfire/burn damage if you keep spraying a target with a flamer.

[primal plume]

They dont offer team utility. Which is the issue

[rapid steeple]

Interesting. Why not BA to outright kill things?

[primal plume]

gold toughness and bubble is good

[nocturne dust]

I should also migrate my guide to steam

[steel flame]

Use thunderous bleed chainaxe for brittle instead and put blaze/Nexus on the staff

[nocturne dust]

uh, no I mean for the 2nd choice blessing

Blaze Away is always the 1st

[rapid steeple]

Ahhh gotcha

[celest valve]

every time a burn stack is applied, 'start_time_with_offset' is set to a random number equal to the current time + a number between 0 and 0.3s.

[rare mesa]

ba + pen flames?

[celest valve]

which means I think that burn damage is dealt roughly between 0s to 0.3s after each burn stack application.

[rare mesa]

ya thats wat i run id ig it

[nocturne dust]

is worse than BA + nexus but better than BA + flurry

[steel flame]

If you really want brittle, chain axe special applies all 40% brittle instantly

[celest valve]

and this (may) be faster than the natural tick rate.

[rare mesa]

i dont wanna run chaxe

[zinc phoenix]

Just played a game with greyla

[nocturne dust]

the only interesting thing with pen flames is it stacks with other brittleness

[zinc phoenix]

Good times 👍

[steel flame]

Grilla of the woods?

[rare mesa]

for psyker havoc do u do tough or hp

[steel flame]

Is there a gorilla on the loose?

[potent echo]

In havoc feels like you have neither

[nocturne dust]

Havoc I normally kinda dump both, but slight preference to HP

[lone ravine]

Hp you get barely 100 toughness with max toughness curios

[rare mesa]

u go 9 stam??

[nocturne dust]

No

But I do take some stam

[rare mesa]

thx men

[potent echo]

Mad man

[nocturne dust]

and substats no +tough

[rare mesa]

yeah i like 2 hp 1stam

[nocturne dust]

because there are more valuable things than 5% tough on Havoc

[potent echo]

Gunner res

[late sapphire]

5% tough (actually just like 2 toughness)

[rare mesa]

i was beginning to think that so i asked

[potent echo]

Can you reach 200 HP in havoc 40 lol

[celest valve]

also it's possible previous knowledge about buff stacking(at least for the flamer) may be wrong. Unless at max stacks, it seems like an entirely new buff stack is added sourced to the person with the flamer.

[lone ravine]

I remember seeing a vet with 49 hp in havoc lmao

[celest valve]

how

[lone ravine]

Wait no that was one wound

[late sapphire]

it only works if the newest stack was inflicted by a crit

[nocturne dust]

oggie

[rare mesa]

smh

[lone ravine]

90 ish max hp

Bro had no hp curios at all

[primal plume]

So is this good or..?

[celest valve]

oh wait nm the stacks added are sourced

[lone ravine]

Warp resist is a better dump since it’s a 1% difference in peril basically

[celest valve]

but i'm not sure it replaces the original owner

[hardy delta]

do convulsing in smite enemies consider being staggered

[split lance]

Swap penetrating for nexus

[late latch]

my friends, I wish for a good force greatsword build

[split lance]

I didn’t even notice the 60% dmg

[late latch]

what are the best blessings and perks

[nocturne dust]

wdym 60%?

oh the dump

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, dumping damage isn't terrible on Inferno, but you really should dump warp res instead

[split lance]

I need my leaderboard to look pretty

[potent echo]

It's not terrible but it definitely has some impact on the first thing you hit

In game you probably save 1 SB tic on something

Also more likely to proc PC etc

[celest valve]

            local corruption_taken_grimoire_multiplier = stat_buffs.corruption_taken_grimoire_multiplier or 1
            local grimoire_chunk_heal = 30 * corruption_taken_multiplier * corruption_taken_grimoire_multiplier
            local heal_type = DamageSettings.heal_types.blessing_grim
            local health_added = Health.add(self._unit, grimoire_chunk_heal, heal_type)```

btw general corruption taken multipliers applies to grimoires, not just the grimoire stat.

[potent echo]

2 grim havoc 40

[celest valve]

(also, corruption is a heal. did you know this)

stand on the green piles of goo in havoc to get healed c:

[split lance]

It’s over health. That’s why it’s purple

[late sapphire]

stealth nade vets man gotta love em

[late latch]

allo? ;-;

[celest valve]

ya, op

[potent echo]

It probably is a heal but only once you're dead

[late latch]

pls help

[celest valve]

get as much of it as you can

[late sapphire]

shred deflector works well

[potent echo]

Wrath riposte

[late sapphire]

wrath deflector in high havoc

[celest valve]

how good are you at staying at high peril

[nocturne dust]

[late latch]

not great but I'm very good at melee

[celest valve]

and can your build take warp splitting.

[late latch]

I was looking for a melee psyker

[celest valve]

ok easiest is probably wrath +... uh... shred probs

[rare mesa]

i like wrath momentum cuz im a shitter and i got bubble

[potent echo]

That works

[nocturne dust]

Wrath and [preference] is how it works

[potent echo]

Wrath is highly recommended by me

[celest valve]

honestly, wrath + whatever blessing gives you Ze Damage that you like the sound of

[late latch]

what if I went Scrier's Gaze and Destiny

[nocturne dust]

Shred, Riposte, and honestly even Momentum are all good

[nocturne dust]

Meleeker is generally right side

So that makes sense

[potent echo]

I might run wrath riposte for high havoc with EE

[celest valve]

if you can stay at 70%+ peril constantly and can take warp splitting though, uhhhh sec

[potent echo]

Toughness DR is pointless

[late latch]

and you won't exactly need Warp Splitting as a result of Wrath??

[potent echo]

I take warp splitting for assail

And bonus for my FGS

And void staff

[celest valve]

ok this is not what blessings i currently have but it shows the havok build people are talking about

[celest valve]

yes but if you can keep warp splitting high, it's better to take something other than wrath.

[potent echo]

My builds take crack of the bone so it's usually troublesome to keep peril high

[celest valve]

This is the optimal assail weaving build for example.

[potent echo]

When I need it, I need it

[nocturne dust]

The problem is that's very hard

[celest valve]

unsure if pressing the special button every 10 seconds or so is hard :p

[nocturne dust]

because hitting things with sword is too fun

why use assail

[potent echo]

It's in between waves where you have no peril and you need it now

When suddenly 20 mobian poxwalkers

[celest valve]

because it is the one psyker blitz that can be used while swording which actually increases your number of sword attacks.

[late latch]

and another question, what's the better mark?

[nocturne dust]

Counterpoint: sword

[nocturne dust]

mk6

Although it's a bit of a hot topic actually

Some prefer the mk8, and the mk8 does clear hordes more easily

but both handle hordes just fine, so the mk6 is the preference for a lot of people

because it handles more dangerous enemies more easily

[celest valve]

The mk8 is, apparently, currently better at horde clear and single target DPS.

[sturdy reef]

if you like push attacks

sure

[nocturne dust]

Who told you that?

cuz they're wrong

[late latch]

is this perfect uh

[celest valve]

technically not because perfect is warp resistance is 0% while everything else is 80%. but that's fairly minor

[nocturne dust]

The mk6 has two repeatable heavies, the stab of which does extra damage over the overhead and is thus goood. It does more single target because it's easily and quickly repeatable, whereas the mk8 is stuck with either only overheads or spamming push attack

[late latch]

then what's the ideal dump stat

:C

[nocturne dust]

and yes, the stab does more damage after the push, but the push ain't doing damage

[nocturne dust]

warp res

[celest valve]

warp resistance at 0% :p

[nocturne dust]

no

[celest valve]

but 60% is fine

[nocturne dust]

[celest valve]

(this means that's a good sword)

[nocturne dust]

Don't be a weirdo that dumps their warp res beyond 60% for no reason

just spam more ranged slices

[sturdy reef]

you have a good role

the best role

[rare mesa]

i think whoever thought up fgs should get their ass ate

[sturdy reef]

go do it

[rare mesa]

fgs so fun

[split lance]

I volunteer

[late latch]

it done

thank you

gonna run voidstrike, assail and scryer's with destiny

light spam seems like easy horde clear

[nocturne dust]

I would go unyielding over maniacs but otherwise

[celest valve]

also i think it's actually better to do push attack and better stab than overhead and stab

[nocturne dust]

It's not in terms of dps

[late latch]

why unyielding?

[late sapphire]

for bossing

[late latch]

I find maniacs to be absolutely horrible

[nocturne dust]

Because ogryns and bosses chonky and you already 1 or 2 hit most maniacs

[celest valve]

(and reapers i guess)

[late latch]

oh lol

[nocturne dust]

In fact, I think you 2-hit every maniac at least, I can't recall any needing 3 if you hit the weakspot

at least on the mk6

[late sapphire]

also maniasc are only ragers mutants and specials

and outside of havoc you onetap all of the specials

[nocturne dust]

some ragers, notably

scab ragers (armored ones) are flak/carapace

[analog agate]

Ahhh did 40. Now I can do low lvls and chill from now on

[restive stag]

speaking of this, i actually just got one

[nocturne dust]

you still need the other stats to be maxed out

That's the hard part

[restive stag]

dont worry i have god tier gamer rng

[celest valve]

So. Push requires blocking then pushing then push attacking. Block chains into push after 0.15s. tthen uhhhhhh this gets confusing

(also even like warp resistance at 30% or so is still good if you want to peril max, i think you want 51% peril or more :p)

[restive stag]

yeah

[late sapphire]

party finder works perfectly and is not broken at all

[mental grail]

Bruh they stole half my fucking revolver

A reject can't have shit in tertium

[celest valve]

and okay. Push turns into pushattack at exactly 0.4s into the animation.

[restive stag]

sorry i got hungy

[celest valve]

lmao i had that bug before

it's hilarious

stubnose revolver

voldemort revolver even

[hazy moss]

why did you pick HER as your pfp ;-;

[restive stag]

i didnt even notice

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/arcane-arcane-season-2-maddie-maddie-nolan-gif-8566488352702804073

she's peak

[zinc phoenix]

oof lost a game at 19 because i goofed on when to go for a revive

[upper galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/maddie-nolen-ginger-arcane-arcane-season-2-gif-16977849915404188853

[zinc phoenix]

big end event, two people down, i thought i had cleared enough for safe revive but shooters told me no

[upper galleon]

Rewatching made me love hate maddie more

[restive stag]

never taking off deflector 😇

[zinc phoenix]

doesnt work on revives

[restive stag]

well yeah but its funny

[nocturne dust]

It should tho

[zinc phoenix]

nothing could really hit me when i was playin and i was goofin thru hordes of shotguns

[nocturne dust]

I remember Fatshark

I remember

[zinc phoenix]

but go for revive and oof

[nocturne dust]

I didn't forget

I won't forget

[abstract forge]

can't believe cait got jebaited by the fanatic zealot 💀

[upper galleon]

Tbf i think we all got jebaited

Really, really good twist but if you rewatch you kinda catch it knowing what we know now

[celest valve]

spoiler tags exist btw

[feral knoll]

The amount of Psyker’s I’ve seen since the sword came out is skyrocketing

I love it. More siblings

[plucky flax]

It's me I'm the bandwagonner

[primal plume]

Why warp nexus on fire staff?

[plucky flax]

More crit more damage and synergy with mettle.

So you don't pick soulstealer and save a talent point

[celest valve]

also apparently while using the special with the FGS you count as blocking at the start. and you can cancel it into a block keeping the empowered thoing

which can chain into a pushblock and then the special

if you're tired of getting your anime protagonist move canceled.

[regal pike]

Ayo.quick question for my fellow whales
Will they fix the new psyker krieg coat or no?

[late sapphire]

never

[regal pike]

Can I ask for a refund or do I need to come to term with getting scammed

[celest valve]

please ask fatshark this. otherwise that's just needless doomsaying to get everyone angry

[plucky flax]

Fartshart notorious scammers

[regal pike]

I'll write a ticket tmr
Just needed to see a few things first
Asked a friend with the old krieg coat to see if it had the same static lower half (it didnt) and see if there was an historic of fixing these issue
I'll write them and we'll see if there's a fix or not

I liked the skin but it looks awful with how rigid it is

[vocal socket]

I see a lot of people mentioning bubble/trauma for high havoc but does anyone have an example build?

[mental grail]

Eventually, they fixed the old Krieger coat, and the Steel Legion jacket & helmet shortly after release.

I think they re-did the Krieger coat like 2/3 different times because they didn't do it how people wanted.

[regal pike]

I'll write something, but its good to know there's an historic of fixing stuff like that
Thank youbfot the answer

[mental grail]

So really, just put in a ticket and ask. ^

[regal pike]

Tbh, Im just really bothered by how static it look when you need to be revived
Coat is hard as a rock

[mental grail]

the most average weapons are the funnest to use and it's annoying

[hazy moss]

wdym

[mental grail]

the double barrel is so kino but gets overwhelmed on higher diff

the agrip revolver is sick as hell with the fanfire, but the lame ass Zarona is way better

the shock maul is sick as fuck, but psyker has way better options for cara and cc

[mossy oyster]

dbarrel only stops working in higher havoc

around 21+

[celest valve]

the barrel wants a lotta weapon swap anyway

[mental grail]

I'm going to 25 and it's barely treading water imo

better weapons to cheese this mode w/ unfortunately

[split lance]

Anyone need 1

For anything

ANYTHING

[strong gulch]

@summer prairie @nocturne dust @wind spruce

Do any of you know if the force sword PA still triggers those tentacle head guys?

[sturdy reef]

dbarrel vet stays winning

most fun way to play vet

[nocturne dust]

I don't.

[strong gulch]

np

[hazy moss]

so uh

do u guys like playing psyker?

[analog agate]

No

Hate it

[hazy moss]

same >:(

[strong gulch]

Can't play right now. I might be available later tho.

[split lance]

il be on

[analog agate]

Work will suck tomorrow. So I got off early sad day

[sharp shoal]

some vet was talkin trash then ran ahead and got killed and i said keep talkin now and they got quiet

was deserved honestly kept takin all the ammo

im using blaze and pentrating flames on purg right now and it does a lot of dmg

[hollow current]

evenly split damage

[sharp shoal]

nice

purg staff is nice for havoc

[analog agate]

It is the meta pick afterall

[sharp shoal]

lol

i like voidstrike

it got me to 30

but now im using purg

[late sapphire]

need to push several times

[wind spruce]

No idea

[sharp shoal]

void strike is a decent secondary pick

[hazy moss]

what build do u like to run with voidstrike

[sharp shoal]

My set up with voidstrike

[hazy moss]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-американскийпсихопат-кристианбейл-american-psychopath-christian-bale-gif-17867735

[sharp shoal]

I like the extra reduction to peril gain otherwise using assail is a flat 10% peril

[mental grail]

I love it

[hazy moss]

it was a rhetorical question

[sharp shoal]

i play all 4 pretty well

[mental grail]

it was a rhetorical answer

[sharp shoal]

i play vet the least

[hazy moss]

what about ratling?

[strong gulch]

Thanks! I tried push attacking a tentacle crusher and it didn't explode but later something seemingly did explode from a PA. So was confused.

[late sapphire]

I think instead of getting staggered they just splat?

I've had some success with pushing them but its not guaranteed anymore

[sharp shoal]

the splat is nice but it can knock you out the map

[late sapphire]

Also staggered a pogryn with a deimos stab felt great

[sharp shoal]

but the real strongest enemy in game is the barrels

[strong gulch]

Gotcha.

[hazy moss]

the real strongest enemy is a pair of poxbursters so perfectly spaced that when you push one the other jumps and explodes in your face

i still dont know how to deal with that

[late sapphire]

shoot them

[sharp shoal]

i've died more to barrels then anything else in game

[strong gulch]

I could have just missed in my frantic efforts ro survive.

[analog agate]

I will have to see a voidstrike player at high havoc

[sharp shoal]

barrels always get somebody

[late sapphire]

I saw one recently it didnt work well

[sharp shoal]

highest i went with void last week was 30

now im using purg

[unkempt knoll]

SPAK HEADS can i have some money?

[late sapphire]

He was doing fine but not doing any damage

vs hordes at least

[analog agate]

Yeah. Every users I have seen it hasn’t been good and it is been a mid havoc level too

[late sapphire]

did ok shooting gunners and such

[sharp shoal]

its good vs crushers

[restive stag]

no

[sharp shoal]

void is

[unkempt knoll]

i ask fellow ogryns now then spark head

[haughty star]

no. @thorn cedar is broke

[sharp shoal]

if i could give you money in game i would

[strong gulch]

Atlas tried void on I think a 30 or 31 and he hated it.

[sharp shoal]

lol

[analog agate]

My assumption is it is too slow to charge

[sharp shoal]

i was using gs void and assasil with buble

you need flurry

[analog agate]

And enemy hit mass is too great

[sharp shoal]

to get the charge going

[strong gulch]

I'm broke too. Got less than 4k ordos.

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, I think Voidstrike (and EK to an extent) falls behind pretty hard in havoc

[late sapphire]

Yeah i was voidstriking in mid havoc and even a surge double ball didn't do much

Though that was moebian 21 modifier too

[sharp shoal]

did it also has pus

[late sapphire]

yes...

[sharp shoal]

oof

[haughty star]

yo miso is fire

[sharp shoal]

no wonder

[analog agate]

I tried EK. It functions fine until 30s. Not great in that. Too many pus hardened

[late sapphire]

i actually really like pus hardened skin modifier now that i run better staves

[sharp shoal]

it is fun

[haughty star]

i'll harden your skin with pus

[sharp shoal]

until you realize

it takes several knifes to kill a sniper

[late sapphire]

snipers take 2 bbs

[sharp shoal]

on zel

it takes several throwing knifes

[strong gulch]

Yeah. It's been working in our teams, but we also have had a comp that's been helping surge be able to do its thing.

[sharp shoal]

that hurts a lot

[analog agate]

Yep. And I end up taking knives cause it is the easiest path to be book/corruption zealot

[sharp shoal]

thats true

[strong gulch]

I've felt like a surge enabler tbh.

[sharp shoal]

im still working on the knife penance

can't void force get surge now

the trauma staff

[analog agate]

Surge will fall off hard in high 30s

[sharp shoal]

i noticed that

[nocturne dust]

It's just stealing wildfire

😔

[sharp shoal]

also i feel gs falls off a lil bit in the 30s on havoc

[analog agate]

Surge doesn’t work on trauma rmb

[sharp shoal]

oof

if it did

that would be kinda fun

[late sapphire]

Tbh even trauma kind of underperforms in high havoc

[strong gulch]

😭 I am the flames that creep but someone else get credit.

(love you tren if ur reading this)

[plucky flax]

Depend on how much support you have

[late sapphire]

But purg gives me headache 😢

[analog agate]

Yep. Takes too long to quell. Trauma ain’t as good either

[sharp shoal]

im just using purg now for the first time in a long time

[late sapphire]

Is there a mod that makes purgatus flames invisible or something

[analog agate]

Yeah. To kill all the greenies for you

[strong gulch]

I think there is! Or something like that.

[late sapphire]

Otherwise i will have to wear sunglasses while playing

[nocturne dust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/371

[sharp shoal]

im still working on my help 50 other players with theirs

[nocturne dust]

I actually had to get it because of bubble spam in Havoc

[strong gulch]

Yeah that one.

[sharp shoal]

bubble is good in havoc though

[late sapphire]

this is so peak

[plucky flax]

But don't play surge into pus modifier indeed.

[analog agate]

Yeah. I did once. It was a bad time. I sucked it up

[sharp shoal]

lol

[analog agate]

I did do a 40 with trauma though. Still works fine

[sharp shoal]

nicee

[plucky flax]

If it's cranium or blight it's fine with surge.

Especially with a burga to enable your wildfire

[analog agate]

I tried doing some low 20s to chill after high 30s. It ain’t chill. It is like carrying people through heresy stuff but your build isn’t complete

[hazy moss]

what if we started calling it byker (burn + bubble + psyker)

[plucky flax]

The range damage by itself is still super respectable tho. I did nearly 800k range damage

• 600k from soulblaze

[potent echo]

Going back to regular QP is like going back to legend from cata

[nocturne dust]

You need more

[sharp shoal]

lmao

[strong gulch]

Actually me

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/crumch-game-grumps-aaaaaa-aah-aaah-gif-20318560

[sharp shoal]

[plucky flax]

That's more than from the trauma guy

[sharp shoal]

i enjoy cata on vt2

[nocturne dust]

You should play book zealot, it's super chill

just press F

[sharp shoal]

but i refuse to do another cata citadel

[nocturne dust]

and hide behind psyker for bubble

[potent echo]

Cata convocation of decay

[sharp shoal]

did one and won

it was so bad

[dusk void]

Great. Now the game is crashing. What a fucking way to end the night. I hate FatShark

[sharp shoal]

cata citadel of eternity gives me ptsd

[potent echo]

Cata fatty is crazy

[late sapphire]

Cata citadel is the best wdym

[sharp shoal]

lol

i was the only survivor at the end

and i was shade

everyone else was dead

[fallen spindle]

Since i guess that everyone here is a psyker, would you guys like to be a psyker in Warhammer 40k? Like, If y'all were from that universe

[sharp shoal]

no

[late sapphire]

chaos wastes is way easier than the normal game

[potent echo]

VT2 clutch music intensifies

[sharp shoal]

i'd rather be a blank

[fallen spindle]

Why?

[sharp shoal]

to many ways to horrifically die if you got psyker stuff

[analog agate]

I tried it… don’t do it with randos. You stand there and they just stare at the enemies. Or don’t move. Or don’t res. They are just… there. Staring. Confused.

[late sapphire]

emperor will eat you if psyker

[fallen spindle]

No pain no gain

[late sapphire]

Psychic Null though yeah definitely

[sharp shoal]

like specific species literally lay their eggs inside your brain if you're a psyker using psychic powers

[fallen spindle]

Maybe

[sharp shoal]

it gets worse from there

[nocturne dust]

Only if I get to be super special super OP psyker man that can crush the entire warp with the power of my massive intelligence and tell the Chaos gods to go eat a bag of dicks

[sharp shoal]

but thats a good example why

[nocturne dust]

Otherwise no

[late sapphire]

The vast majority of psykers get eaten or horifically abused by aliens or taken apart for parts or turn themselves inside out or turn into demosn or

[sharp shoal]

and that species was hunted down extiensivly that subspecies and correct

being a blank

you can literally

kill demons if you're strong enough

by just exisiting nearby

[fallen spindle]

I mean if it is by a Tyranid im in

[sharp shoal]

which is the sisters of silence

they work with the custodes

[sharp shoal]

sisters of silence

are to sisters of battle what custodes are to space marines

except the sisters of silence handle the majority of psychic threat

[analog agate]

Also. I was denied from a lvl 20 havoc. I was kinda shocked

[sharp shoal]

due to being blanks

lol

[fallen spindle]

They are SOOOOO hot you dont understand

[sharp shoal]

btw

blanks are immune to corruption

another reason to be a blank

[nocturne dust]

go to Slaanesh jail

[fallen spindle]

Nah being a psyker (atleast on this part) just need to be a redpill sigma Ohio Fein

[sharp shoal]

blanks are immune to warp releated things

[sharp shoal]

like corruption and psychic stuff

btw

a blank in the empryean is invisble

no demons know you're even there

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but blanks creep out people in the Imperium

[sharp shoal]

true

but its safer

[nocturne dust]

which means 99% chance of being persecuted or outright murdered

[sharp shoal]

remember

the sisters of silence

are all blank

and they work in the emperors palace with the custodes

[nocturne dust]

and I doubt most blanks get to be part of the Sisters

[split lance]

almsot

[sharp shoal]

only the female blanks

but the male blanks

are typically trained to be assasins

[late sapphire]

but what if you are born a pariah and then your parents kill you for being weird

[sharp shoal]

calidus assasin training

so

plenty of em still die anyways

[potent echo]

Can anyone be a blank though

[sharp shoal]

during the trianing

[potent echo]

Isn't the whole point that they don't have souls

[late sapphire]

its a mutation

[potent echo]

So you can't be one but they exist

[late sapphire]

Maybe they do have a soul just one in the material realm not in the warp

[sharp shoal]

but

[potent echo]

[sharp shoal]

yes blanks actually have a lot of good use

they get picked up by the inquisiton quite often

its the psykers and people with a warp connection that don't like them

but reason being

they cause a lot of harm to a psyker by just existing around

and they are lethal to really psychically gifted beings

like the aeldari

hence why the sisters hunt the strong psychic threats

[mental grail]

Run up on the ops with the melta pistol. Leave nothing behind a pile of ash and a pair of Jordans.

[late sapphire]

in theory a high powered enough blank would kill normal humans

[mental grail]

Maybe

[late sapphire]

There is still some danger of being choppy into a torso by gangers and stuffed into a box to make an 'anti psyker device' but all in all yeah being a blank would be neat

[mental grail]

I'd be an aeldari if I had to choose

[late sapphire]

You will get your soul sucked out though

[sharp shoal]

it's generally safer then being a psyker

[mental grail]

titan princeps or knight pilot if I had to choose any human job

[mental grail]

only if I die without a soul stone

[late sapphire]

Any human job? I'd choose to be the emperor duh

[mental grail]

I'm just not gonna die

https://tenor.com/view/drake-computer-notebook-explaning-gif-21152267

[sharp shoal]

Dark or normal

[mental grail]

corsair

[late sapphire]

If you want safety you'd probably choose custodes

Very boring though

[sharp shoal]

True that

[mental grail]

I would be a psyker if I had to choose though, I think I could do it

[late sapphire]

I think i'd want to be a gray knight for nothing but the force halberd

[sharp shoal]

But very extreme when action is necessary

[restive stag]

i think it could be fun in its own way

[nocturne dust]

Black ships it is

[mental grail]

Aeldari are the safest, most restrained psykers there are, so I pick them.

[restive stag]

i'd like to be whatever the exact opposite of this is

[mental grail]

No biggie. I could do it.

[mental grail]

Ork weirdboy it is.

[restive stag]

okay i'd like to be on the opposite spectrum of psykers

and not an ork

thats my critera

[late sapphire]

Being a necron overlord would also be neat

[restive stag]

yeah true

[late sapphire]

Set up a gaming planet and have fun idk

I'd introduce video games to the necrons and completely ruin the entire race

[restive stag]

can i be a c'tan that would be funny methinks

[mental grail]

Assuming they aren't running Rust in the background of their CPU matrix

[fathom adder]

safest
Upon death your soul will either reside in a gemstone not guaranteed to be recovered, or gobbled up by The Thirsty Slut She Who Thirsts

[mental grail]

I accept the risk

aeldari are drippy

[late sapphire]

you would already have gotten broken apart and eated

[restive stag]

yeah but it's for the bit so it's fine

[late sapphire]

imprisoned, i guess

You can be a ctan shard

[restive stag]

that works too yeah

[late sapphire]

the frogs are funny, too

[restive stag]

true and real

i like frogs

[haughty star]

i wish the bois were on

auric quickplay is just fucking trash rn lol

[ripe obsidian]

Welp.

Apparently I can do Havoc 40.

I joined a Havoc like 31. They changed it.

[hazy moss]

siblings

im actually losing my shit

when is excise vault gonna be on the mission board

[analog agate]

Havoc 40 isn’t that different from 30s.

[plucky flax]

2 choir bois

[ripe obsidian]

I was Havoc 28.

[ripe obsidian]

It was a good time. Yellow health and bubbles as far as the eye could see.

And only one down away from the perfect game penance

Which is a slight shame, but oh well

[split lance]

my score boards look nowhere near as good when im on zealot

[ripe obsidian]

I have done 11 havoc missions in total.

[hazy moss]

ive made a momentous discover to aid in destroying the mk8 clan, so with mk6 you can go into the stab attack from L1, but not if you swap, but if you swap and block then L1 into heavy its the thrust and that comes out faster than mk8 pa follow-up

checkmate

[late sapphire]

you can if you swap you just have to wait a moment for the equip animation to end

[hazy moss]

blocking is faster

gotta be fast in a pickle

[plucky flax]

You should not care damage as zeslot. You're just choir boi

[split lance]

this is a damn mission, not havoc

[plucky flax]

Oh why play choir in non havoc

Unless you want practice I guess

But can just practice in 20s havoc

[split lance]

just wanted to use it once before havoc

[plucky flax]

[split lance]

bc no ones invited me to havoc

lol

[plucky flax]

Lfg tool is nice

I use it a lot

[split lance]

discord one or in game

[ripe obsidian]

Not tonight, but I would enjoy joining a team in pursuit of the True Survivor title.

[plucky flax]

In game

[split lance]

this is knife zealot

not very good

[late sapphire]

Yeah this sucks

[split lance]

also knife

[late sapphire]

If you're pubbing and not outdamaging everyone else by 2x idk what you are doing but its wrong

[nocturne dust]

That's only the worse pubs

[split lance]

bro

imm trrying so hard on zealot

do you know how many times ive ran into like 10 elites and only came out with 1 kill

too many

[nocturne dust]

yeah, some pubs are really good. They're not the majority, but sometimes you'll get lucky.

[hazy moss]

imagine having to try when youre playing zealot

[split lance]

i havent been lucky im just bad

[hazy moss]

im also bad :(

[split lance]

on psyker i can braindead 1mil dmg

on zealot i cant even get 500k tryharding

[mellow heath]

Man, I started playing relatively recently and wanted to swing through to ask if my build and weapon and stuff looked decent, but ig image perms must be gated behind a higher activity level role or something, oof

[split lance]

just keep talking

youll get it soon enough

[mellow heath]

How many messages does it take lol?

I don't have a ton to say

[ripe obsidian]

The LMB stagger on purg is silly. Locking down like a dozen ragers at once is so good.

[ripe obsidian]

Most of my havoc 25+ pubs have been pretty good. Usually when we lose a mission, we all drop at the same time.

[restive stag]

true and real

[mellow heath]

Oh, ig I can ask some questions I've been wondering about

Are +3 stamina curios level gated?

Or do I just gotta get lucky in the shop

[plucky flax]

Just spam

[mellow heath]

...that seems like it'd get me in trouble more likely than it'd get me image perms

[plucky flax]

And jts just from the brunt guy from lvl 30

[mellow heath]

Level 30 gated, got it, sadge

[plucky flax]

But max curios are rare so you have to camp the shop

[ripe obsidian]

Question for people better than me: how hard is 40 Havoc in your opinions? It felt, for me, like it was a lot of careful positioning and waiting for cooldowns before moving up.

So, slow going.

[sharp shoal]

Slow and steady is safe

[ripe obsidian]

But even without voice comms, it wasn't too bad other than when a boss and a captain spawned at the same time.

[mellow heath]

Btw, am I unusual for just ignoring all guns that use actual ammo on Psyker, or is that a thing a lot of people gravitate towards doing?

[indigo creek]

regarding shield and health, does melee or bullets burn through the shield faster?

[wind spruce]

Just create the build on gameslantern

[mellow heath]

Cause I definitely like being able to just ping ammo for everyone else

[ripe obsidian]

Does melee damage the bubble...?

I'm pretty sure it's only ranged that does

[wind spruce]

Pretty normal for new psykers

[indigo creek]

Yes that I am sure but not by much it seems

[ripe obsidian]

But a bunch of reapers or gunners focusing the bubble will melt it

[mellow heath]

Okay, that checks out

[indigo creek]

oh wait you're talking about the psyker bubble

[ripe obsidian]

"Spawns a psychic shield in front of you for 17.5s. The shield blocks Enemy Ranged Attacks, while you and Allies can still shoot through."

"How shield health works:
Every incoming ranged attack counts as dealing 1 damage. After taking damage, the shield does not take any more damage for the next 0.33s. So mathematically, when placed into an endless stream of enemy shots, the shield will disappear after 20x0.33=6.6s. Alternatively, it will disappear after it has taken 20 valid hits total, or when its natural duration runs out."

[indigo creek]

nah I'm talking about the heretic energy bubble

[mellow heath]

Guess I can, just more effort than just screenshotting if I'm just running it by folks quickly

Though with the image perms issue that's a non-decision

[ripe obsidian]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Yeah, melee is better for the heretic captain shield.

[mellow heath]

😔

[indigo creek]

for psykic bubble I've never seen one popped by incoming damage, only runs out by duration

[ripe obsidian]

You have not played high enough difficulties, then.

I've definitely seen my shield popped at 7 seconds multiple times in a single run

[indigo creek]

I've just gotten the auric 100 mission medal though

usually the team prioritize the ones who are beaming the bubble

[ripe obsidian]

I can't speak to Auric, as I never use bubble in it

I use shriek in auric/auric maelstrom

[late sapphire]

a bunch is the same as 1

[ripe obsidian]

But in these havoc 25+ missions, bubble is mandatory

[mellow heath]

Ig I just use the max values for my weapons? Since they're not leveled up all the way but there doesn't seem to be a way to show that.

[indigo creek]

why though bubble is goated in all situations

[ripe obsidian]

Well. Yes. Technically. But often that single one dies

[late sapphire]

Hopefully yeah

[late sapphire]

Not enough stuff to bubble in normal auric mael

[nocturne dust]

Yes but more damage is better on auric.

[late sapphire]

Just kill gunners its that simple

[mellow heath]

Also why are the values in different places than in game???

[ornate hamlet]

is penetrating flame worth taking over warp flurry on inferno staff?

[late sapphire]

always yes

[nocturne dust]

Things aren't a big enough threat on auric to warrant bubble.

[late sapphire]

but warp flurry SUCKS

you go blaze away nexus

[ripe obsidian]

Easier to just murder the shooty lads in auric. They'll bully you in havoc

[late sapphire]

my favourite havoc pubs are the level 16 ones

[nocturne dust]

Yep, Auric is a dps race more often than a 'try to survive' situation

[late sapphire]

seeing the newbie get his shit kicked in by a random shooter is funny

[indigo creek]

I wish I can play havoc but literally no one is playing the gamemode, there's a maximum of 5 parties during peak hours

[ripe obsidian]

?

[late sapphire]

max of 5 empty parties

[indigo creek]

highest I've gotten to play is havoc 24

[late sapphire]

full ones dont get shown

Just put out your own game and youll get 50 join requests idk

[ripe obsidian]

tbh, I would get my shit kicked in, too, if not for bubble, choir, and shouty vet.

[sturdy reef]

you can do it without

but then you will likely die to attrition

[indigo creek]

plus I hate the pox modifier

[sturdy reef]

at least on 30+

[late sapphire]

you can also torture your balls with nails and so on

There are many things you can do in short

[sturdy reef]

yeah lol

better to have safety than go raw damage in havok

CC actually becomes important

[ripe obsidian]

You can, maybe. I probably can't. I'm apparently good enough to do Havoc 40 with 2 chorus zealots, voc vet, and me on bubble. Without those safety nets? Ehhhhhhh.

[sturdy reef]

I wouldnt want to do it without 2 of those

at least

[ripe obsidian]

I need to do 35+ again, at least, to get true survivor

[late sapphire]

voc vet is optional

smoke vet is also useful but rare

everyone sleeps on smokes

[prime elk]

vape meta

[ripe obsidian]

But we only had 1 down on 40 without voice comms. I think it shouldn't be too rough to get through one with 0 if people are this good consistently.

[sturdy reef]

smokes is actually very nice

but situational

it also fucks with beast of nurgle spew

[ripe obsidian]

I love bubbling BoN

No spitting for the puppy

[prime elk]

wait does it?

i'd say smoke outside of havoc is niche, but in havoc, it's very damn good

[nocturne dust]

they don't

[prime elk]

idk i hardly see people running smoke

[late sapphire]

killing a bubbled bon feels like clubbing a baby seal

[mellow heath]

Okay, finished getting my build onto gameslantern, definitely took more time and effort than screenshotting would have, but oh well

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-killing-seals-nature-gif-14616308

[late sapphire]

defenseless little creature gets brutalized by 4 criminals

[nocturne dust]

I'd do it again

[summer prairie]

That's rather decent, except for the ordos being a joke

[hollow current]

I've gotten more from a maelstrom mission back in the day.

[nocturne dust]

Smokes suck because they drop your visibility in addition to the enemy's. Plus, they're not clearly telegraphed and aren't as easy to make use of as bubble because the thrower is the only one who's going to know where the smoke is. They are just vastly inferior bubble.

[mellow heath]

Started playing recently and still just level 21, been really liking the greatsword and playing with a mostly melee focus with this build, is my current setup solid? Anything truly horrendous I should rectify? Anything I should focus on getting towards talent wise? (current plan is warp unbound and endurance on the right there up next, and then probably warp splitting. Once I start playing on higher difficulty stuff more I plan to swap from lingering influence to perfectionism, but I think the current pick down there is probably lingering for now still, though there's a real chance I could already be wrong even where I am.)
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dae6c7a-c443-4d13-8e11-4befa6539f4f/current-build-4

[ripe obsidian]

A baby seal that ate me.

Used me as a chew toy

[nocturne dust]

it's a build 🤷‍♂️ I wouldn't worry too much until you're fully leveled.

[mellow heath]

The staff doesn't get used much, gets pulled out for monstrosities sometimes though since it does good damage into them it seems.

[late sapphire]

It was just trying to play

[mellow heath]

Part of why some of my question is what should I work towards next to improve it further in terms of talents

[late sapphire]

@mellow heath here is my full voidstrike build

something like this is a good investment for your next points

outside of that its pretty solid

[nocturne dust]

warp rider, warp splitting, or some toughness at the top for use with assail/staff

[late sapphire]

Didn't step into any pitfalls

[digital egret]

im tryna min max my psyker man

i love the psyker but i played vet first

so mine is so squishy rn

[late sapphire]

Btw with the FGS you can toss out stamina curios, really

[fresh reef]

what's the soulblaze cap on melee blazing spirit?

[primal plume]

Wouldve had a higher rank if my internet didnt shit the bed for 2 days straight

[nocturne dust]

isn't it always 6?

[mellow heath]

Guess I'm really not missing much of anything that wouldn't involve bumping up my peril gain to benefit from it, sad

I've been liking getting to hard focus on the sword with just the occasional assail for malefic momentum or disrupt destiny purposes

[late sapphire]

warp speed is a must for fgs

[restive stag]

different perk level increases the total cap

i can check the max cap in a second

[late sapphire]

@mellow heath if you want to keep the full melee focus, get by crack of bone and warp speed. warp splitting works with assail so it's also pretty good

[mellow heath]

Yeah, I've known about warp splitting being great, I had it previously, just unspecced it to get to the bottom

And didn't feel like I was missing it

Haven't been feeling like I'm running out of cleave

I'm sure I will on higher difficulties though

So I will get it again in the future

[late sapphire]

Not sure hitmass changes much

Outside of havoc that is

It's not that important on the melee outside of maybe cleaving an extra rager sometimes

[mellow heath]

Usually if I die or run into trouble it's because of the armored/elite guys, especially the dual weilding axe green ones. (or I just don't get out of the way of one of the bursters in time)

[late sapphire]

soulstealer is also a good choice for quick assail toughness regen

[plucky flax]

12

[late sapphire]

You can force push them and they stagger or fall over

Same with bursters really

[mellow heath]

Yeah, that's what I try to do, and if I can focus them in a 1v1 I usually do, but the issue is if there's a big guy in a group of small guys

I can shove the big guy buy the smaller guys to the sides get on me before I can actually stab the big one

Or I can swing throug the chaff but it doesn't do enough to the big one

[mellow heath]

Btw, crack of bone seems unneeded, no? I rarely am in need of quelling peril really. Though, ig if I use scrier's gaze more freely with it maybe it'd be good.

[late sapphire]

It's mostly for scriers gaze

Really though it isn't great but it's one of the few nodes actually impactful for melee

With warp speed you'll want to have sg up more for melee, the extra speed makes the fgs handle much better

[prime elk]

it's pretty good when SG is up, annoying when SG is not up

[split lance]

lol so i just recorded my game

but you can hear the show im watching over the game

the whole time

[nocturne dust]

This explains a lot

[strong gulch]

I'm finally available if you're still gaming.

[mellow heath]

Wish I could more freely mix in the special attacks of the greatsword without messing up the blessing stacks, but I'm pretty sure it does. That'd solve the issue of how to work in the peril synergy stuff great lol.

[hollow current]

I got a grammerly ad in one of my clips

[split lance]

like what

[nocturne dust]

I meant at max

[late sapphire]

The special isn't great if uncharged

[mellow heath]

Yeah, it's not the best

But at least level 1 charges not that slowly when I'm focusing on the sword as much as I do, and if I could weave it into the normal swings better I could just use it to get a bit of bonus damage and free peril lol

[restive stag]

at max blazing spirit (at least on bfs) goes up to 12 stacks

[mellow heath]

And get warp kills for malefic momentum too

[restive stag]

on bfgs its unspecified for some reason

but i tested a bit and it definetly isnt uncapped

[nocturne dust]

yes, I figured that out

[restive stag]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

It's twelve on Deimos and FGS mk6 at least, those are the ones I just tested

Still never a reason to run it tho

it being on crit is such a pain

[restive stag]

it truly is

wish it specified like

crit kills apply it to enemies within 2 meters or something

wouldnt be the best but it'd still be something

[nocturne dust]

wish it just was on hit

Dumb that it's not

[restive stag]

honestly yeah

but even then i feel it would face the same issue of like, youre going to kill things before you proc any soulblaze

[unreal wasp]

Could it proc Wildfire on the enemy that died right as you apply soublaze though

[mellow heath]

Oh, btw, just to confirm before I deal with actually investing to level my sword past level 250 (where I have it rn), is this sword good enough stat roll wise to just use long term? Obviously my staff is as far as I'm aware lol, though since I'm using it for boss killing it's not the exact optimal, it's still optimal for something lol.
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9dae6c7a-c443-4d13-8e11-4befa6539f4f/current-build-4

[restive stag]

no and it doesnt do that with crit either because they die before they get soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

It would at least be more useful and if they raised the cap then it could work alongside staves as a boss killer melee

[restive stag]

i could see that being maybe useful

[nocturne dust]

lawd, why does Agent like 🅱️istol

[restive stag]

though me personally i'd like it alot more if it was just a spread of like 4 meters of 2 stacks of soulblaze on weakspot kill or something

[split lance]

taking a lil break but im down after

[strong gulch]

Sounds good

[unreal wasp]

Just wondering because Perilous Combustion applies it to the elite you killed to proc it

[restive stag]

to be fair that's because it is an actual on-kill effect

i do wish thats how the blessing worked aswell tho

[south gull]

Wait Warp res is the dump on the new greatsword

[sturdy reef]

yes

[south gull]

[mellow heath]

Related:

[hollow current]

spend millions to roll a 0% warp res sword.

[nocturne dust]

Just get a 60% warp res dumped sword like a normal person

[south gull]

Just autopiloted and maxed out a mobility dump greasword smh

[summer prairie]

Mobility huh

[restive stag]

erm ackshually its defences

[mellow heath]

....

[south gull]

thats what I meant

[restive stag]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

speedy FGS mk incoming?

[ripe obsidian]

My FGS is 43% warp res and 80% the rest

[mellow heath]

I have gotten 11 greatswords so far and this is the lowest warp res I've gotten

I'm not made of money (yet) man TT

[lyric viper]

dump stat for electrokinetic force staff for charged attack spam?

[sturdy reef]

warp res

[mental grail]

Yes

Warp res is a dump stat

[split lance]

lol

[sturdy reef]

lmfao

[mellow heath]

Good taste at least

[summer prairie]

I think it's not even possible to get a perfect dump WR from Brunt, or even that close to it

[mellow heath]

Is this responding to ocean man or me? (aka is the response to me just a simple yes?)

[summer prairie]

the weapon base is too low, even with 0 WR roll and the other stats being roughly even, you end up having to upgrade it quite a few times. You would have to dump both WR and defence

[mental grail]

the response is to you, your sword is good to keep

nothing other than a pre-made god-roll is worth dumping it rn

imo

[lyric viper]

wait what is the response to my question then