psyker-class

[sinful peak]

why dump wildfire

[zinc phoenix]

Doesn’t do enough

[sturdy reef]

The same auras never stack

Wildfire is easy to spread tho

Esp if you run inferno

[zinc phoenix]

In high havoc purg flame is wave clear, cdr and bubble

BB lets you support against gunners and the proc for bb randomly merks dangerous stuff

[sturdy reef]

Gimme empowered bb as base

Then itd be decent

[zinc phoenix]

Not having to worry about a dog or trapper because you proc on it is great

[sinful peak]

need like 3 bbs to kill a dog tho lol

[sturdy reef]

Flame em

Inferno w/blaze away will stunlock em

[sinful peak]

I am a trauma enjoyer

[sturdy reef]

Voidblast with surge/warp flurry and rend shock is pretty nice too

[nocturne dust]

surge

[sturdy reef]

Double balls for double the suppression

[marble crater]

That's...

[shell radish]

Like I don't know what I'd drop to pick up kinetic flayer, most of the stuff I could drop for it just seems better

[clear heath]

battle med

[shell radish]

and blaze away purg tends to melt gunners/shotguns/etc pretty quick

[clear heath]

wait is this for havoc?

[zinc phoenix]

That’s why the flame is nice, you get em on fire and then boop dead

[strong gulch]

OH yeah. I take BM in havoc

[zinc phoenix]

I have them die mid leap is great

[clear heath]

BM for havoc is decent cause quell speed gets destroyed lmao

[strong gulch]

Outside of havoc BM gets dropped

[shell radish]

I can full cast purg forever with it

[nocturne dust]

pickup Empyric Resolve over PotS

[zinc phoenix]

You don’t really need the +2 WC

[shut gulch]

Anyone got a good assail build? Also what weapons you'd recommend for UT?

[sturdy reef]

Honestly, you dont need kinetic deflection

[zinc phoenix]

TDR is also meh

[sturdy reef]

You dont want to have to block the wave as psyker

[clear heath]

KD is really nice though

[sturdy reef]

You want to shove and get distance

[zinc phoenix]

No way mandatory trait

[clear heath]

for 1 point it really does save you from bad rager packs

[late sapphire]

kd is really good

[sturdy reef]

Aint necessary

[late sapphire]

ragers bulwarks etc it's great mistake tolerance

[shell radish]

that seems like a terrible idea lol

[zinc phoenix]

KD gives you the ability to hang out and wait for the team which is crucial

[sturdy reef]

I havent needed it

[clear heath]

woe 500 ragers be upon ye!

[sturdy reef]

I run it on gunker

Thats about it

[nocturne dust]

It's not, even on havoc

[runic juniper]

had a havoc psyker that constantly got split from us and backed into a corner, and would survive for an extra 20 seconds just because of KD

[sturdy reef]

I aint sayin its bad lol

[young summit]

Dump defenses or warp resist on greatsword?

[sturdy reef]

Its good, Id rather have kinetic flayer

[young summit]

I'm feeling warp resist

[nocturne dust]

You're screwed anyway if you get hit, so the simple answer is to not get hit

[shell radish]

yeah but Im not having peril issues at all

[sacred crane]

This is my opinion, but I dont think perfect timing is very good on gunker builds
But mettle is still good

[nocturne dust]

plus bubble has very good toughness regen

[shell radish]

and I want to generate more peril

[sturdy reef]

You dont need the bottom middle node of the top tree

[shell radish]

why would I trade toughness for less peril?

[zinc phoenix]

Is practically mandatory, you can’t afford to quell

In havoc 40 is pretty constant

[runic juniper]

quell speed reduction is a modifier in havoc

[nocturne dust]

because ER + battle med on Inferno you never have to quell

[shell radish]

I don't usually, I just proc battle med

[runic juniper]

any staff other than purg needs it

[nocturne dust]

[clear heath]

thank you havoc

[shell radish]

yeah maybe if you were running other than purg

[sacred crane]

i though ER kinda sucked

[nocturne dust]

Battle med isn't going to let you get away with that

[nocturne dust]

Not at all, ER is fantastic, lol

[strong gulch]

I was worried about ER in havoc, but if you get hit you're kinda done for with or without the dink to toughness gen.

But bubble also helps a lot.

[zinc phoenix]

It gives you way more breathing space

[nocturne dust]

Every staff but purg, it is meta on

[nocturne dust]

True

[zinc phoenix]

BM is good in high havoc because it isn’t affected by vent mod

[clear heath]

Bubble is gonna restore an insane emount of toughness anyways

[zinc phoenix]

ER same

[sacred crane]

my confusion is on the "toughness replishened"
what toughness replenishment does it mean

[late sapphire]

bm is like 8x better in havoc than outside of it

[nocturne dust]

everything except coherency regen and blessings

[strong gulch]

butt bubble 😂

[nocturne dust]

which does hurt a lot, yes

[shell radish]

I can see taking it on like trauma but purg in havoc hordes is braindead with battle med

[zinc phoenix]

How high you been?

[shell radish]

and I'm swapping to melee to build uncanny

[strong gulch]

Especially if all of the psykers have the same brain cell and stack them up.

[sacred crane]

so enemy melee kills, quitude, soulstealer and mettle?

[nocturne dust]

every talent, yes

[runic juniper]

yeah it nerfs those sources im pretty sure, but it's honestly worth it for more peril on havoc

[sacred crane]

aw hell naw

[clear heath]

The max vent speed penalty kicks in at havoc 30 btw

[runic juniper]

just dont get hit lol

[nocturne dust]

It was worth it before havoc

[zinc phoenix]

After all this havoc I’m finding I legit cannot be hit in aurics 😂

[clear heath]

I just play dumber in aurics now cause i underestimate it

play like an insane person

[runic juniper]

idk, I got by just enough with warp charges alone and it got annoying to build peril when I wanted it

[sturdy reef]

Quickplay in aurics is shit now

[clear heath]

You think stealth zealots rush ahead? Wait until you see my greatsword psyker

[zinc phoenix]

Same tbh

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ imo still super easy to build peril with ER and you spend so much time quelling

[strong gulch]

I've been doing the opposite lol. "I'm safe now tra la la lalala" gets hit

[nocturne dust]

In Aurics, getting that quell time down is so useful with ER

[nocturne dust]

doesn't die

[strong gulch]

TRUE

[sturdy reef]

Ive found ER to be enough peril reduction outside of operator mods tbh

[runic juniper]

my main issue is that I quell cancel too long when I don't actually need to cancel into anything, lose like 20% while looking for a next target and that can be 2 charges with ER

[nocturne dust]

I got blasted by a shotgunner in auric and literally stopped because I thought I was dead

[clear heath]

lmao

[strong gulch]

Oh I lived. I guess I can just keep doing that.

[shell radish]

28, how much does peril quell change as you go up?

[clear heath]

the immense fear when i hear a shotgun sound hasn't gone away

[late sapphire]

at 30 it almost gets halved again

[runic juniper]

also gunner resistance in havoc has saved me plenty, it's not just insta death if you get targetted

[zinc phoenix]

40, it gets so freaking bad 😂

[clear heath]

You'd be at -75%, and 30 it'd go up again

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ I don't bother quell cancelling or edging like the rest of you strange people

[shell radish]

ah i see

[zinc phoenix]

Same, I do no tech

You don’t need it

[nocturne dust]

Techs are for the weak. I am strong.

[clear heath]

If you think about it, going from having 25% vent speed down to 15% is losing more than a third of your remaining vent speed

[sturdy reef]

I do quell cancelling for primary staff fire

[clear heath]

so it's pretty big

[runic juniper]

It's been muscle memory ever since we had to spam brainburst for every situation

[sturdy reef]

And voidblast secondary spam

[nocturne dust]

yeh, it's a big oof

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve learned to just not be in bad spots and that has carried me far 😂

[strong gulch]

Yeah, the techs are not needed. I do some of them but really not needed.

[sturdy reef]

This is the same reason why going from 50-60% reduction in damage is way less impactful than 90-95%

Just how ratios scale

[nocturne dust]

EHP

[runic juniper]

any guesses as to how much resource havoc rewards will give?

[late sapphire]

10

[runic juniper]

35 minutes

[late sapphire]

10 resource

[clear heath]

1 ordo docket per havoc rank

[nocturne dust]

a number between negative infinity and positive infinity

[sturdy reef]

The first half of vigil station on havok is also aids

Id rather to gloriana

I have

Actually

[clear heath]

i hope it's actually like, 100k ordo perhavoc, for like 4 mill at havoc 40

[sinful peak]

could give 1 million of each, still wouldn't care

[nocturne dust]

Imagine if Havoc crates took away resources

[runic juniper]

the amount of toughness you regain from coherency per mission is my guess

[nocturne dust]

Part of the difficulty

[clear heath]

Listen i need ordo for my low warp res force sword hunting

please just give me like 3million ordo every week

[marble crater]

You do love your sword

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/vtuber-holostars-ホロスターズ-starcolle-スタこれ-gif-25731121

[zinc phoenix]

The real reward is all the penance points tbh

[runic juniper]

Just have to wait 19 more weeks and collect the rewards each week lol

[marble crater]

The real, real reward is the friends we make along the way

[runic juniper]

cant wait to see penance speed runners 100% the penance menu now

[nocturne dust]

Have they still not fixed mettle for Trauma and Purg?

[clear heath]

How does it work for trauma?

[nocturne dust]

it doesn't

[clear heath]

lmao

[runic juniper]

wow that dumb

[nocturne dust]

Trauma RMB can't get toughness

[split lance]

I’ve been trash talking all my friends. I think they’re thinking of replacing me

Just ask @nocturne dust

[clear heath]

what havoc rank are you guys ending the week on?

[runic juniper]

purg mettle works

[nocturne dust]

32

[sinful peak]

32

[nocturne dust]

so much grinding

[runic juniper]

37

[clear heath]

33

[split lance]

When does it end

[nocturne dust]

not really

[split lance]

34

[nocturne dust]

unless they fixed it

[clear heath]

less than an hour i think

[runic juniper]

30 minutes

[split lance]

Oh. Rip lol

[nocturne dust]

cheater

[split lance]

I’m host now

[runic juniper]

its my only talent and source of toughness and im getting toughness

both m1 and m2

[nocturne dust]

it should proc once on m2

but only once

[clear heath]

There's gonna be a lot more high havoc hosts in 30 minutes

[runic juniper]

gotcha

[split lance]

I’ve been 34 since like we were 25s

[nocturne dust]

per target iirc

[split lance]

I got 34 on the day we lost 4 in a row

[nocturne dust]

and you've been cheating the entire time, smh my head

[runic juniper]

yep thats how it currently works then

[sturdy reef]

It procs on m1

[nocturne dust]

Book boi good, who knew? (I did, I knew)

[sturdy reef]

Aurics never needed as much defense as we need for havoks

[split lance]

I’m book boi

[clear heath]

yeah but 4 psyker is funnier

[sturdy reef]

Because fucking infantrymen 100-0 you

[split lance]

(Only for a game maybe. I might be awful as fuck)

[clear heath]

i liked when we were doing havoc with 4 psyker and 3 bubbles got placed at the same time

[runic juniper]

my best team I've had has been 2 psykers 2 books

[sturdy reef]

Time to go GH/insulin

[nocturne dust]

We'll see. I think 2 bible bois is still great.

[runic juniper]

psykers feed the book, the book feeds the psykers

[split lance]

Too much imo, lost dps

[nocturne dust]

Not really

[zinc phoenix]

40

[runic juniper]

use flamethrowers when you actually need the extra dps

[nocturne dust]

The psykers kinda just steal from each other

[clear heath]

I think a purg/trama psyker can make up for it anyways

[split lance]

Bc just one book boi can keep up almost 100% of the time

[nocturne dust]

not at all, lmao

[sturdy reef]

2 is still good

[split lance]

Yeah but 3 purg/trauma

Will be

Immense

[zinc phoenix]

I’ll be hosting a few games in a couple hours at 40 😂

[nocturne dust]

when I'm running zealot with you guys, I watch that toughness bar drop to blue so often 😰

[split lance]

Inv

[sturdy reef]

Inv too

[nocturne dust]

not even psykinetics is enough

[runic juniper]

1 book is almost enough for full uptime

[sturdy reef]

[nocturne dust]

3 psykinetics at that

[sturdy reef]

They dont stack

Iirc

Psykinetic

[split lance]

Do you take the on crit cdr

[runic juniper]

also its nice to keep book for crowd control when you need it

[nocturne dust]

They do?

[split lance]

Bc when I used it in mael

[zinc phoenix]

I want to go for true survivor and the insane tbh

[split lance]

It was 100% up time

[split lance]

We can get true survivor. Ez

[sturdy reef]

Sure

[clear heath]

Only the person who gets the kill gives PA for everyone
More psykinetic's aura users just means more kills are considered valid

[nocturne dust]

3 psykers killing specials and elites with 3 psykinetics means every special and elite gives CDR

[nocturne dust]

yes

[runic juniper]

someone spoke in my ear and said only the kills a psyker gets will proc psykinetics

[nocturne dust]

The issue in Havoc is I often don't have targets to melee

[split lance]

Ah fair

[nocturne dust]

Can't leave the bubble

[split lance]

I’m gonna be aggressive

As always

[nocturne dust]

😰

[strong gulch]

It's not your fault, I wonder right into the hands of a mutant all on my own.

[nocturne dust]

The worst part is mutie grabs do so much damage if they catch you in the open

[clear heath]

mutie pulls you out of bubble and it's over

[sturdy reef]

Mutie into flamer patch is the true 100-0 combo

[runic juniper]

mutie into dog midair

[sturdy reef]

[runic juniper]

that shit sucks

[clear heath]

mutie into flamer kick

death

[nocturne dust]

Works on auric too

[lunar hollow]

on the flipside, mutie throws you out of a corner with a giant deathball

[split lance]

I’m thankful everytime I have gold tough. Ty ty. I love you

[lunar hollow]

the mutie giveth and the mutie taketh away

[split lance]

I vow as zealot

I’m gonna play like a lore accurate zealot

Swinging

Preaching

If I’m bad tho

[nocturne dust]

lmao, I was like "I can switch to vet if you wanna see some real inaccuracy" before the edit

[split lance]

Yeah ok I’ll go back to Psyker

[split lance]

lol

I don’t have a vet I think of making one. My aim is somewhat good

[nocturne dust]

My accuracy with plasma is like 30% or something

[strong gulch]

So are we all throwing?? I can switch to zealot.

[clear heath]

There is no way you could be bad as a support zealot

[split lance]

Omg wanna see my awful zealot gameplay

https://youtu.be/3zVNX8OacAw?si=IbW3yy6KL2w0fHsP

[runic juniper]

i mean, only use book as other zealot books

[split lance]

I don’t throw on purpose

It just happens

I’m in a constant state of tryhard

[clear heath]

i throw to perserve the difficulty of the game for my teammates

they should thank me

[split lance]

Not me

I either kill 70 elites when I go in

Or die

And there’s never ever an in between

I have the highest highs and lowest lows

[nocturne dust]

@zinc phoenix holy crap, you were right, being short is bad for melee

[split lance]

Wait. You can change character height

I haven’t made a char in years so I have no idea

[nocturne dust]

yes

[radiant ice]

You can alter it in the barber

If you pay the 50k

[nocturne dust]

apparently tall is melee meta

[split lance]

Oh. Should I make mine tall them. I’m pretty sure I’m short

Ok I’ll do that

[radiant ice]

My Psyker is the minimum possible height

[split lance]

Wanna change the hair too I don’t like it

[radiant ice]

I will take your ankles

[split lance]

I think mines the tallest

Tren accurate height

[radiant ice]

Mine is Dominaya accurate

Gremlin club

[split lance]

Are you short

[radiant ice]

Whatever gave you that idea?

[split lance]

My apolocheese

[radiant ice]

Pfft

Short is better

[wary flame]

Chat I have a question

[nocturne dust]

Short people statistically live longer

[split lance]

It’s ok. You can get head pats from like a crusher or something

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

I like it when partners are taller than me, real fucking easy in my case

[split lance]

Their anger keeps them alive

[split lance]

To bite ankles?

[radiant ice]

(I’m actually only slightly shorter than average but wish I was a tad smaller)

[zinc phoenix]

😂

[split lance]

But I do like the opposite. Short chicks

[late sapphire]

I bet dominaya has never had to bend to go through a door

[split lance]

Da best

[split lance]

I have to go sideways

[clear heath]

yeah you wanna be tall for melee

[nocturne dust]

I have unlocked melee

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[clear heath]

my zealot has been max height since the start

[radiant ice]

Sometimes I have to jump over the threshold bar

[clear heath]

changed my psyker to be max height after fgs came out

[split lance]

Would a dog gate be a hard obstacle to step over

[late sapphire]

Do you bring mountaineering equipment to go up staircases?

[zinc phoenix]

I am a medium height psyker so that I can identify the nerds who messed with slider 😂

[radiant ice]

I live in a bungalow, problem solved

[clear heath]

it's nice when you're standing slightly higher than a bulwark on some stairs and you just stab them over the shield

[wary flame]

If my friend (a recon lasgun veteran) tells me and my other teammates (melee relic zealot, smite elite kill psyker, heavy stubber ogryn) that we’re not handling ranged enemies well enough, how do I tell him to stuff it and handle the ranged enemies because that’s what his class/current build is supposed to do and not blame our loss on us in a respectful way?

[radiant ice]

I mean yes, that would likely hurt or I’d fall on my face, depending how I attempted it

[split lance]

When you go outside do you have to watch for birds and other predators

[clear heath]

Tell them "skill issue"

[radiant ice]

I mean I live in a place where yeah, most people have to

[zinc phoenix]

You can just bring bubble

And solve the problem

[split lance]

Take a ss of leaderboard and show him he’s not doing shit

[split lance]

Are you ok

[radiant ice]

A bird stole my neighbours dog before

Never saw it again

[late sapphire]

Really he should rephrase as 'can you guys help me handle ranged enemies?'

[timber cairn]

blaze away or warp flurry on inferno? I prefer blaze, but what others thoughts?

[split lance]

Oh that happened to my cousin

[zinc phoenix]

wtf kind of songbirds you got over there 😂

[clear heath]

Australia?

[wary flame]

…there’s a leaderboard?

[zinc phoenix]

tweet tweet mfer

[late sapphire]

absolutely blaze away

[radiant ice]

Warp Flurry is bad, Blaze away, Warp Nexus and Penetrating Flame are top 3

The staff has no difference in damage from half charge or full charge

[split lance]

Mods. But yes

[radiant ice]

Arctic circle bb

[zinc phoenix]

It do last longer tho

[split lance]

Penetrating flame is not good

[timber cairn]

huh? With blaze it does

[nocturne dust]

actually, full charge keeps up blaze away stacks longer soooooo

[wary flame]

Oh, okay. I am a PS player so no lb for me

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

But considering I’m the only person in a 20+ mile radius, saying further would be doxing xD

[split lance]

It’s not

It’s been tested time and time again

[nocturne dust]

It's better than Warp Flurry

[radiant ice]

Blaze ticks to max in under 0.5s

[split lance]

Blaze away, nexus

[minor wedge]

How to convince my frie.... I mean my fellow rejects that Maelstrom I-II missions are fun ?

[timber cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-critics-choice-awards-side-eye-confused-clapping-gif-14741917063569043913

[nocturne dust]

and I was one of those testers

Nexus is better, yes

[split lance]

Any other combo is b tier

[runic juniper]

enjoy the game while it works, if it currently works for you

[radiant ice]

Oh yeah I run Blaze and Nexus like a sane person

[timber cairn]

wtf

[zinc phoenix]

Really tiny arctic circle person in this tz? Indigenous in way north Canada?

[clear heath]

penetrating flame is like, the 3rd best purg blessing

too bad we can only equip 2

[nocturne dust]

but PF is still not bad

[late sapphire]

You are in genuine danger of being eaten by a stray dog or eagle perhaps

[radiant ice]

Look at your buff bar when casting

[lone ravine]

alright someone get the geoguesser dude to find his house

[nocturne dust]

and the real juiciness of PF is that it stacks with other brittleness

[timber cairn]

i will!

[radiant ice]

Exactly!

[split lance]

PF?

Oh

Nvm

[nocturne dust]

Penetrating Flame

[radiant ice]

I am not saying it is top tier op perk, just that it’s one of the top 3 blessings used xD

[zinc phoenix]

🤦‍♀️ of course, dominaya is a

hobbit

[split lance]

Yeah but 20% is very little

U get more brittle with a trauma

[nocturne dust]

sure, but it's still better than Warp Flurry, and actually better than Nexus for boss damage

[split lance]

Ur better off doing the damage from blaze

[radiant ice]

^

[runic juniper]

20% is a lot for dots since they tick so fast compared to a single big attack

[nocturne dust]

You still take Blaze Away tho?

Blaze Away is undisputed king

[lone ravine]

why would you ever not take BA

[radiant ice]

There is inferno builds that drop crits altogether and take Blaze and PT

[split lance]

Omg blaze away PF

[radiant ice]

Yeah, like Dead says

[zinc phoenix]

I just hold right click until maximum bar and then burn things til empty

[split lance]

Does not seem like it does a lot

[zinc phoenix]

😤 further knowledge is not required 😤

[nocturne dust]

Again, not better than Nexus

Still better than Flurry

[radiant ice]

^

This is what I’m also saying

[timber cairn]

Okay it get sto max in 0.5, but you'd still want to full cast to make the most of it

[clear heath]

honestly PF might actually see some value in havoc too because it helps the team with armor

[runic juniper]

warp nexus is nice for Empathic Evasion on inferno too

[zinc phoenix]

Don’t really need if everyone brings a ds 😂

[radiant ice]

It’s not terrible in a support build paired with Blaze Away

[zinc phoenix]

Tauntgryn with shield also helping surprisingly

[nocturne dust]

yeh

I wish I could have three blessings

[runic juniper]

does penetrating flame from inferno stack with purge flamer?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[radiant ice]

It’s not Nexus/BA, but PF has its place as the solid third pick

[lone ravine]

its definitely going to help teams with boss damage, literally no game ive been in had a boss killer lmao

[radiant ice]

If we could pick three

[clear heath]

things being so tanky that killing big dudes is a team effort
Debuffing them might not be a bad play

[radiant ice]

And again Dead beats me to the line xD

[lone ravine]

bosses got like 75k hp in havoc

[split lance]

Stab it

[lone ravine]

and the damn captain constantly regenerating their shield

[zinc phoenix]

Shield still pretty small hp

[clear heath]

I'm so glad the captain is easy as shit

[radiant ice]

It’s the solid 3rd best flamer blessing, and reasonable in a pure support build to pick over Nexus when you don’t have a build that takes advantage of crits

[lone ravine]

fr

[radiant ice]

Which is a… choice on Psyker, but one that is available

[runic juniper]

Yeah you just kinda kite bosses around while you kill everything else, then you get in a big DS stabby circle with your team to kill them when its safe lol

[zinc phoenix]

Someone has to dodge tank boss til then tho

[nocturne dust]

when will they buff BB

[runic juniper]

I haven't had a captain be an actual issue, maybe had one delay a revive when it sat overtop someone for a few seconds but thats it

[nocturne dust]

[clear heath]

is it havoc reset now?

what's in the box?

[radiant ice]

Ohh gonna login

[zinc phoenix]

Better not be like the end of 7

[radiant ice]

I got 35

[zinc phoenix]

Someone with 40 tell me what’s in the box

[runic juniper]

i got 93k dockets 16k diamantine, and 27k plasteel, rank is at 37

[zinc phoenix]

WHATS IN THE BOX!!!!!

[zinc phoenix]

This is worthless 😢

[runic juniper]

yep

[radiant ice]

Not to me!

I have nearly mastered all psyker weapons

[runic juniper]

diamantine is huge for a lot of people though

[zinc phoenix]

Whatever I got bragging rights that’s what really matters in life

[radiant ice]

That will cross the line for me at least

[runic juniper]

and now i will never have to worry about crafting mats

[radiant ice]

35

[zinc phoenix]

Ooh fancy

I like the look

[hollow current]

35k plasteel, 23k diamantine and 137k dockets for 40

[runic juniper]

alright what's the calculations then

[zinc phoenix]

I will go open my box if the baby is cool

[radiant ice]

Oh wow it drops harsh

[nocturne dust]

Dang it scales kinda hard

[radiant frigate]

that is a big number

[radiant ice]

People 25 and under must get nothing

[runic juniper]

lol

[split lance]

Fr

[clear heath]

where are my ordo dockets?

[split lance]

Rewards are wack

[clear heath]

i need ordo

you can't give me less ordo than beating 1 auric game

[radiant ice]

I mean, 25 million Ordo takes a few days at worst to get

I am glad it's more focused on plast/diam if it has to be mats

[hollow current]

ye it is

[runic juniper]

I just saw my first 40 in party finder lol

[nocturne dust]

I mean, we still get stuff from the missions themselves

right?

[hollow current]

there's going to be lots now.

[radiant ice]

I mean all that means is they won't let anyone 39 or under play with them

Prepare for the big wall of 39 unless you're host

[nocturne dust]

much like the plague, it is spreading

[radiant ice]

Hopefully my host bug gets resolved, cause 5 ain't a big distance

[hollow current]

I still need 40 more assists on low levels

[nocturne dust]

I've only been hosting so I have like 7 assists

[split lance]

Now it’s my turn to host

My term for assists

[minor wedge]

Guys, if I may. I have been considering swapping from venting shriek to telekine shield or bubble shield. Can anyone advice on a good build that still utilizes smite and Lightning staff ?

[hollow current]

It's going to be impossible to speed run through in a few more weeks when most people get to 30-40

[minor wedge]

(because I love feelin like chancelor palpatine)

[runic juniper]

Yeah I totally could of got 40 if I hosted, but the 25 assists is so worth being only 37

[split lance]

Smite EP shriek

[runic juniper]

having another psyker with purg to apply the dot before you shriek is also huge

[zinc phoenix]

I got real lucky finding a host tbh

[runic juniper]

Ive had 4 Ive been extremely lucky with

just gotta abuse truelevel

[zinc phoenix]

Oh I mean for 40

It was honestly the hardest part, I was checking for days 😂

[midnight cove]

do we at least have different havoc missions now

[zinc phoenix]

The actual mission was dead easy

[runic juniper]

Ive just been going for anyone above 30 and it hasnt been too bad

[zinc phoenix]

Once I worked out how me and the other guy could coordinate cycling books we stopped taking damage

[radiant ice]

Yeah getting past 26-29 is the absolute worst I found

[patent mango]

havoc is like getting injected with mold

[zinc phoenix]

He would pop first in an encounter, then wait for me to pop to go again

[radiant ice]

The match? Easy. The Party Finder? Brutal

[marble crater]

Woow, started a 25 havoc before reset, finished after reset and now my highest for the week shows as 0

[split lance]

Something like this probably

[radiant ice]

Hopefully much easier after the first week now there will be way more 35-40 peeps

[radiant ice]

Wow RIP

You just got FatSharked

[late sapphire]

The rewards are so dogshit lol

[runic juniper]

its good diamantine, that's about it

[strong gulch]

wtf

[late sapphire]

23k is a lot yeah

[zinc phoenix]

For aurics or for havoc? If aurics no, if havoc no smite yes bubble

[marble crater]

Literally did a mission for nothing, didn't even increase my rank from before the reset

[strong gulch]

feck you for playing the game I guess

[minor wedge]

Nono, i want to go FROM venting shriek to a shield

[late sapphire]

But really at this point all i need is some dockets to buy all of the shitty cosmetics

[zinc phoenix]

Fr

[minor wedge]

^^'

[split lance]

Oooooooooh. Dont do that. You lose out on like all the dmg. Bc shriek is half. If not more of the dmg you do

[clear heath]

scammed

[zinc phoenix]

Ok in an hour and change I’ll host a 40 mission, don’t derank me nerds 😂

[marble crater]

Surely restarting the game will help

[nocturne dust]

or do. It's your game, play how you want 🤷‍♂️

[zinc phoenix]

Everything depends on when the baby goes to sleep tho so don’t expect an absolute time as babies do baby stuff

[prime elk]

ping me if you do 🥺 though i might be asleep so TBD LOL

[patent mango]

wait no

dollar

[minor wedge]

Okay ? because I thought that maybe telekine shield would be good for higher levels to block out gunners and hordes n stuff?

[nocturne dust]

no premium currency 😔

[late sapphire]

Tbh man i think the havoc 40 reward should include a little bit of the premium currency

[patent mango]

lol

[late sapphire]

But nooo

[split lance]

Nah. Unless ur in havoc 20s u can feesibly never use shield

[nocturne dust]

it would make the mode so toxic tho

[minor wedge]

I see

[late sapphire]

Good

[radiant ice]

Huhhh?

The shield is amazing

[late sapphire]

Keep up that toxicity

[radiant ice]

At all levels

[late sapphire]

You can skip out on shield by just cycling chorus i guess?

But it's so good

[split lance]

Before havoc i actually don’t remember the last time I or someone in my group used shield

[radiant ice]

I love wall

[nocturne dust]

Tox bomber detected

[radiant ice]

But swapped to dome for Havoc 30+

[late sapphire]

my havoc 30 was tox environment

havoc 35? tox too

[marble crater]

Restarting the game did, in fact, not help. Literally got scammed

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[radiant frigate]

smol payout

[radiant ice]

Indeed xD

Ouch

[muted grove]

yurrr how we doing p[sykers

[radiant ice]

It’s so bad for under 25s

[karmic reef]

Best blessings on the force greatsword? its for a build focused around keeping scriers gaze up for as long as possible, so I was thinking murderous tranquility and wrath, or maybe warp slice

[brisk shoal]

You get like 3x that from 40 that’s crazy

And x10 for the dockets

[radiant ice]

Wrath is the only essential one, warp slice is not needed with Scriers crit boost

[nocturne dust]

I NEED MOAR STAVES

[brisk shoal]

But even that is still like nothing for dockets

[minor wedge]

Okay, so if I havnt even cleared normal damnations yet I probably shouldn't do shield then ?

[nocturne dust]

Give them to me Fatshark

[radiant ice]

Use shield, it’s amazing

[patent mango]

next up is force halberd

[radiant ice]

Especially with the gunner buffs

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[muted grove]

which are you trying to get rn?

[radiant ice]

If you want to I mean

[nocturne dust]

I would recommend playing without shield so you don't use it like a crutch until you can clear aurics

[clear heath]

Yeah get good at dodging first

[nocturne dust]

None, I want new ones

[radiant ice]

Ahh I see what you guys are saying

[clear heath]

if you're nothing without the shield, you shouldn't have it

[minor wedge]

Haha

good point

[radiant frigate]

tbf it is not like i need it

[minor wedge]

Highest I can clear "easy" atm is heresy

[radiant ice]

Honestly though, Creeping Flames is my favourite ult

[minor wedge]

Damnation is still giving me a bit of trouble

[radiant ice]

But the wall is so damn satisfying

[brisk shoal]

Yeah but the dockets need a buff asap

[radiant ice]

Havoc 30+ without any domes is rough though

[late sapphire]

dockets should be 20x or so

[brisk shoal]

actual bread crumbs they be giving you

[brisk shoal]

Agony

[minor wedge]

Thats what im using atm

[lone ravine]

honestly havoc should give melk coins too

[marble crater]

Not even enough for 2 weapons

[karmic reef]

melk coins arent really valuable anymore

[radiant ice]

All the ults for Psyker except the other version of Shriek are amazing

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/paulrudd-gif-18560841

[lone ravine]

they're literally just there to gamble curios

and i need curios

[radiant ice]

The 100-200 damage on push is utter crap, rest of our stuff is awesome

[marble crater]

Nice try, there is no other version of shriek

[clear heath]

idk why that even exists

[muted grove]

does anyoine have any advice at all for fixing these controller settings? this game is miserable on controller but i have no choice due to carpal tunnel

[radiant frigate]

what about boneless shriek

[minor wedge]

THAT was such an inconsistency in the movie

[brisk shoal]

These 40 dockets still pain me greatly

[minor wedge]

Hulk is handing Antman 2 Taccos

But he only has ONE in his hand

[marble crater]

What do you have issues with?

[radiant ice]

Eew a controller?

My advice: Don’t

[lone ravine]

holy shit terrible movie such bad consistency

[radiant ice]

And I’m literally a cripple with one bad hand

[minor wedge]

ikr ? XD

[uncut wedge]

Should I run precognition or reality anchoe for my melee psycher

[radiant ice]

The Finesse damage is too good to refuse

[muted grove]

its hard to explain, thers this weird momentum when im trying to turn around quickly, at first i thought it was auto aim (which partically it was) nut basically out of combat i can turn and look around quickly but in combat it slows down my look speed significantly and is super disorienting , its like the camera has weight to it and takes a second to get up to speed, i hate it

[uncut wedge]

And what should i use for my inferno force staff?

[radiant ice]

Aim acceleration

The worst invention in gaming

[uncut wedge]

Mainly want it to be used supportively

[lone ravine]

blaze away and penetrating flames if you want support

[marble crater]

Yeah, I can show you my settings in a second, hang on

[lone ravine]

if you want general dmg go nexus instead of pf

[muted grove]

i think i turned that off and it didnt improve earlier but its currently on so it actually could it be, ill try again with that off and see, if thats it i really hate it

[muted grove]

wonderful

[manic halo]

Which one looks better?

[versed pendant]

first one

[radiant frigate]

first one

[manic halo]

Damn it

just bought that second one

ending my life

thoughts?

[radiant frigate]

mask clears easy

[manic halo]

FUCK

[radiant frigate]

BiS headgear cosmetic

[marble crater]

And Alternative 1 for the layout of course

[uncut wedge]

For my melee psyker should i be running full toughness relics? Or toughness and wounds?

[lean remnant]

whats the difference between great force patterns?

[patent mango]

imagine paying 1400 for a cosmetic then funny basic mask beats it

[manic halo]

I don

don't wanna talk about it

[heady kiln]

dump stat for inferno staff?

[patent mango]

can probably refund with support idk......

[marble crater]

Warp res

[heady kiln]

ty

[lean remnant]

how is this stat layout?

[marble crater]

Not great, warp res is dump stat here too

[lean remnant]

people were telling me I needed more finesse

this is what I have

[restive stag]

yeah you definetly need more finesse

youre probably best off looking for a 60% warp resistance roll

[prime elk]

never dump finesse

[lean remnant]

I got this

[prime elk]

usable

[lean remnant]

the lowest is defenses

[prime elk]

though warp resist is def the preferred dump

[lean remnant]

I dont really block much so it can work

[prime elk]

it affects movement speed too

[nocturne dust]

It also messes with dodges iirc

[prime elk]

yeah

[marble crater]

That's the best out of the 3

Dodges on greatsword are ironically not great already

[zinc phoenix]

Not smooth

[zinc phoenix]

You will want to use this one to spam the special because big warp resist. Get one with warp resist dump too because defenses pretty good

It’s worth having lots of weapons, good for switching

[marble crater]

I have 8 weapons

[nocturne dust]

I have 8 force greatswords

[marble crater]

Nerd

[nocturne dust]

(It's actually 9)

[marble crater]

Ner9

Close enough

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/longsword-gif-22116335

[split lance]

Where’s the sword from

[split lance]

Sand shark

[midnight cove]

rathalos from monster hunter

[split lance]

Nerd

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ is gif I found online. I would assume either Devil May Cry or FromSoftware games, judging by the look

[midnight cove]

wait actually might be rathian idk

[split lance]

[midnight cove]

its suspiciously green

[marble crater]

Looks like some FromSoftware typ shit

[late sapphire]

i like this guy

[nocturne dust]

[minor wedge]

Tried my first damnation

immediately failed catastrophically

[marble crater]

[nocturne dust]

Don't worry

It gets worse

[minor wedge]

[split lance]

Keep failing. Dont stop

You’ll get better

Only do damnation. Dont drop
Difficulty

[sturdy reef]

I agree

keep trying

[split lance]

Skill will be forced upon you

[sturdy reef]

woe, horde upon ye

[analog agate]

I feel sludge like in havoc mode

Dislike it

[fiery narwhal]

is it common to have 4 points extra for Electro staff?

[late sapphire]

yes

i wonder what they think about ogryns pickrate in havoc

[nocturne dust]

They need more nerfs, clearly

[fiery narwhal]

thanks

[sturdy reef]

taunt ogryn aint so bad

[nocturne dust]

kinda is

[late sapphire]

i've only ever seen 2 ogryns in high level havoc

[analog agate]

Only cause I was playing the ogyrn

[sturdy reef]

hahaha

true

[analog agate]

Ogryn in havoc, like in reg auric, is fine with everyone up and is a facilitator

[late sapphire]

all of the ogryns instadied the moment they left shield, so far

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/max-lord-maxwell-lord-life-is-good-but-it-can-be-better-wonder-woman1984-gif-19839182

[late sapphire]

with shield up? boss & captain encounters turn into captain alone, very nice

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ogryn-darktide-ryback-gif-27166387

[analog agate]

Such a good meme

[sturdy reef]

perfect

also goddamn it I dont wanna host anymore

I need some points towards my assist penance lol

[lone ravine]

ive yet to host once 💀

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[sturdy reef]

and my mission in the carnival is bugged

[analog agate]

I leech on hosts

[sturdy reef]

with the hard crash tech

barrel

barrelhost

[lone ravine]

i'll host once i get to 40 fr fr

(i wont)

[analog agate]

Did it update now for anyone in game for havoc?

[zinc phoenix]

It updated to whatever your highest of the week was

Sorry guys I am too beat to host a 40, im just gonna vibe in the low havoc assists 😴

[nocturne dust]

prior to the reset.

[sturdy reef]

I would host if the carnival mission wasnt unstable

[nocturne dust]

You can't start a match, wait for reset, then complete it and have it count

[sturdy reef]

now I actually need to join lol

anyone hosting havok 37+

[marble crater]

Found that out the hard way, the match didn't count for before or after the reset

[nocturne dust]

I was actually referencing your experience

I didn't test it 🤷‍♂️

[marble crater]

I have become a case study

[split lance]

Always have been

[potent echo]

How's havoc 30+? I only played till 26

[nocturne dust]

Painful, but not worse than pubbing auric with the right setup imo

[strong gulch]

I don't remember how 32 was. I just remember being very tired and my arms hurting. Also the 24 -26 maps we had being cursed af and it being easier afterwards until 31.

Didn't seem impossible tho.

[sturdy reef]

30+ gloriana is the true gunner experience

[strong gulch]

Perfect play hasn't been absolutely needed yet.

[split lance]

It’s slow

That’s the pain of it

lol

[potent echo]

Hope no gloop or restart?

[sturdy reef]

wdym

the green puddles?

[potent echo]

The green juice modifier yea

[sturdy reef]

its very common

just learn to truck through it

[strong gulch]

goo 😭

[sturdy reef]

you can jump over it

[potent echo]

True

[sturdy reef]

except on stairs

[strong gulch]

Jump maxxing

[potent echo]

But it destroys some finales like arena carnival

[sturdy reef]

gotta keep em out

of your safe space in carnival

that mission is bugged anyway

[potent echo]

True

Bugged?

[sturdy reef]

Ive hard crashed there everytime I got it in havok

[potent echo]

Damn

[sturdy reef]

last time it was a full lobby crash

first time it was all except 1 dude

[potent echo]

That's mad

[sturdy reef]

yeah the last time we didnt have any downs

[potent echo]

Did they remove it from the havoc pool or not yet

[sturdy reef]

no

its my current mission

I would be hosting otherwise

[strong gulch]

Oh yeah. I think it was carnival that we had a whole squad crash. It counts as a loss too.

[sturdy reef]

yup

thats the worse part

[potent echo]

Also I heard 30+ is only 1 down? Or is that only some modifier

[sturdy reef]

its 100% a performance issue

Ive only noticed crashing in the second half of the map

the game shits itself loading everything in ig

idk

[strong gulch]

I don't think so?? IDK now. Maybe we all only when down once in a mission 30+?

I know I insta died because of corruption. Didn't go down just died.

[acoustic isle]

Dear emps let my 40 just be sycorax lmao

[sturdy reef]

Id do anything else besides gloriana and vigil station for my 40

actually might be okay with gloriana compared to vigil station

[acoustic isle]

I already dislike Gloriana in regular dammnations lmao

fuck doing that in a 40

[sturdy reef]

its strangely uh

easier than vigil station imo

I feel so weird saying that

but its true based on my experience

[acoustic isle]

probs just the situation and spawns

probably more funnels in Gloriana in fairness

[sturdy reef]

well thats why

[acoustic isle]

lotta edges you could knock things off of too

[sturdy reef]

its mostly the enemy spawns

in vigil station

double bosses on bridges

enemy spawns on all backtrack areas

my funniest wipe was captain + beast on the bridge followed by a rager horde on all the areas including the building you walk up

literally 50 ragers

[fading patrol]

Subscribe to gold toughness cult
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1057577531739475971/1314927931750879342/Warhammer_40-000-_Darktide_-_2024-12-07_19-13-22.mp4?ex=675787d1&is=67563651&hm=470caa287991de2eea5d264d2e039f6bced2a17383744964b7317101c3458d5c&

[nocturne dust]

30+? No, but you can get crusher overheaded which instantly kills you by filling your bar with corruption

[acoustic isle]

yeah specifically if enemies like captain bosses, crushers and maulers get their overhead on you

[potent echo]

Joy

[acoustic isle]

it's insta death

[nocturne dust]

unless Zealot

[potent echo]

Is that a modifier or just default havoc 30

[acoustic isle]

unless undying yeah lol

[shut gulch]

Question. Just wanna know diff ppl idea on good weapons for a new phyker player. I plan on going assail and the bubble shield. Thats doable?

[nocturne dust]

I think default

[potent echo]

[acoustic isle]

see it seems to just be part of it

there is no modifier that says it

it just sort of happens lmao

[potent echo]

He what, die??

[acoustic isle]

assail bubble is fine. From what i remember discussions in here assail is a solid way of keeping your perils at the top for persk that gives bonuses based on perils

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-opps-oh-no-scull-head-gif-5631943

[acoustic isle]

since assail is a flat perils amount you can just press g, left click and stay in the 90's

then you can run whatever melee madness you want

It's working well for people using the new great swords

Dueling sword has always been meta so folks here are still sorta wondering if it's gonna get nerfed lmao

[nocturne dust]

I recommend running without bubble, using it early on may have the issue of turning it into a crutch you need.

[fading patrol]

Check vidya above, thats havoc 32
Attacks have built in corruption

[shut gulch]

Ok ty. The great sword is fun. Last question since I'm new should I worry about that number that on tip right corner of weapon or just keep using something I like.

[sturdy reef]

havok is literally just

dont get hit

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[gaunt seal]

5 minutes after this clip we wiped to a beast of nurgle + shield boss and the trio I joined (havoc 36) blamed me for not taking bubble

[acoustic isle]

if you mean the weapon rating i wouldn't get caught up on that till you've reached 30 and feel like finally investing resources in a build

save your resources until that point etc.

[nocturne dust]

I mean... yeah.

Without bubble havoc is awful.

[acoustic isle]

maybe empower stuff as you get into doing higher diffs

[gaunt seal]

With empathic evasion you’re invincible and they had 3 yellow toughness cuck builds

[acoustic isle]

just to make sure damage breakpoints are meeting more easily

[sturdy reef]

yellow toughness gets fucked on havok

[gaunt seal]

Watch the clip before you judge lmao

[sturdy reef]

it saves you 1 hit

[shut gulch]

.....😮

[nocturne dust]

I watched the clip. Still judging.

[gaunt seal]

So in Psyker class I also get judged for using anything but the cuck bubble lmao

[acoustic isle]

i mean hey listen

just don't get hit right?

[gaunt seal]

And I’m on Xbox

[sturdy reef]

gunker is very greedy on havok

you will not restore ammo

[nocturne dust]

Run what you like but gunker on Havoc is

[gaunt seal]

Just melted 10 shotgunners, 20 shooters, zero damage at 30 fps on a giant tv while eating Cheetos but

[gaunt seal]

Idk bout that I got this far with it

[sturdy reef]

cool

[nocturne dust]

And wasted tons of ammo

[sturdy reef]

if the rest of the team is fine with it

its cool

[gaunt seal]

75% of one magazine ?

[nocturne dust]

Like, yeah, cool, good you can perform with gunker and there's nothing wrong with running gunker in Havoc. But do make sure the rest of the team can manage.

[gaunt seal]

Just so I know who I’m getting opinions from

What’s your playtime and did you beat hard mode twins without a stealth zealot breaking it

[nocturne dust]

I beat hardmode twins with 4 psykers

[acoustic isle]

LMAO

[nocturne dust]

[acoustic isle]

oh boooooyyyy

here we go

[nocturne dust]

Gatekeeper

Get outta here with this 'what are your credentials' crap

[sturdy reef]

I've done twins once

dont really care for it

[acoustic isle]

My man i will put it this way. im not gonna promote or disparage gun psyker in any way.

[gaunt seal]

You’re gatekeeping my build that got me to 36 🤦‍♂️

[acoustic isle]

But the way i see it. Im a motherfucking space wizard

i aint touching a gun

[sturdy reef]

I aint gatekeeping you dawg

Im saying gunker is greedy

[strong gulch]

No smite too.

[nocturne dust]

I'm not gatekeeping it, I'm saying your team members aren't necessarily wrong for complaining.

[sturdy reef]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

It's havoc, cooperation is important and if they need a crutch, they need a crutch.

Be their crutch. Support your team.

[gaunt seal]

I took zero damage and stood in front of the team for half the mission and can stand in front of a pack of shotgunners utterly invincible until they vaporize I think it will become meta

[nocturne dust]

I did take smite one of the runs, but I only used it accidentally because I fatfingered stuff

[gaunt seal]

Who would win 10 shotgunners or a veteran with 50 yellow toughness

[nocturne dust]

It won't because of ammo

[sturdy reef]

so

[gaunt seal]

Ammo has not been an issue

[sturdy reef]

did you run out of ammo

you were very close

and thats roughly the first half of the misison

[gaunt seal]

Whole team on white lmao

[nocturne dust]

Beginning of match, lmao

plus the whole team will be trying to conserve ammo on Havoc

[strong gulch]

If everyone plays well enough to not need yellow toughness and bubble who cares.

I will say tho, the havocs I've run, ammo has been a big issue.

As people play more havoc, I think bubble and yellow toughness will be as needed.

[gaunt seal]

More like 30% though this was right by the heretical idol

I spam more when everyone is white

[strong gulch]

I need it tho. I am not good enough.

[gaunt seal]

Because there’s just ammo laying everywhere

[nocturne dust]

ammo that gives 6 bullets

[sturdy reef]

a tin is not going to fill a mag

nor would a stash

at 36

[nocturne dust]

You realize not even a full bag will restore a clip

on Havoc, right?

[gaunt seal]

I do realize that as I’ve gotten to 35 hosting

Thanks for the tip though

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

If it works for you, go for it

but make no mistake, it does make things more difficult

[gaunt seal]

All I see lately are complaints that Fatshark is forcing yellow toughness bubble
Make something different work
Get heat lol

[nocturne dust]

it didn't work tho

you said you failed

[gaunt seal]

Yes

But why assume that’s the reason

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you're on console so you don't have scoreboards

[sturdy reef]

why would you want most of your damage to come from ranged as psyker

[gaunt seal]

By the end of the clip the zealot and veteran were hurt and both psykers were unharmed

[sturdy reef]

when enemies get ranged damage reduction

[gaunt seal]

That’s true but I’ve been playing with a playtester a lot lately and he said I’m putting around 1.3 mil per mission

[strong gulch]

I will say, I see another psyker. Did they take bubble? Because I don't see a huge problem with the second psyker being mega DPS if they are doing that job and not dying.

[gaunt seal]

Some Cole/lestrade guy we ran like 20 missions

[gaunt seal]

He was using venting shreik

But my point is we died to a beast of nurgle, a pack of maulers and a shield boss

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but the main concern would be looking at ammo pickups/damage taken and see how that is going for the full team

[gaunt seal]

Me and the other Psyker deleted all gunners from existence

So why blame lack of bubble

Like did you see the clip though fr

[nocturne dust]

EE only helps you

bubble helps the team

[gaunt seal]

No gunners existing > gunners shooting a frail bubble

We died to 2 bosses and a pack of maulers and crushers in a small room

[sturdy reef]

gunker isnt the best position for taking out gunners even though they can

[celest valve]

Gunker has ammo efficiency. it's called their blitz :v

[nocturne dust]

And were your team getting ammo starved?

[sturdy reef]

because they arent efficient

[gaunt seal]

Did you see the clip?

[nocturne dust]

They weren't using blitz

[gaunt seal]

They had white ammo all game occasionally yellow

[nocturne dust]

The clip is not the full game mfer

[gaunt seal]

Well it’s a pretty good sample brainman

[nocturne dust]

no it ain't

[acoustic isle]

what i saw was you at less than halway through carnival at a quarter of your total ammo lol

[gaunt seal]

Not to mention you see me use brain rupture on a trapper in that clip before killing I think 20 shotgunners in a single magazine

[strong gulch]

I mean, bubble helps with toughness gen and stopping puke or shield boss shots, but still I get what you mean.

It's an easy call out for bubble (which would help), but it's not a solve all.

[acoustic isle]

so all i can presume is you're ammo hungry

[sturdy reef]

were they mostly meleeing

to give you ammo tho

[celest valve]

also yes gunker has a ludicrous amount of buffs that can make them very ammo efficient too

[sturdy reef]

and being conservative

gotta consider that

[acoustic isle]

Pus hardened skin is the real killer here lol

[nocturne dust]

Bubble is not a solve-all but a gunker in high havoc is super They can be run, but I wouldn't trust a random to do it.

[strong gulch]

I will continue to cower in bubble.

[strong gulch]

For sure.

[sturdy reef]

corner camping is better than just bubble

both are best

also lmb spam on staff for suppression which is actually relevant now

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yeah, even with bubble you should stick to cover for when it pops

[patent mango]

by this point just give us a refractor field for havoc

[sturdy reef]

should place it in corners

it shouldnt be exposed unless it has to be

it pops too quick otherwise

even with full warp charges/psykinetics unless you get a really good elite/specialist wave

[split lance]

Anyone running some havoc tonight?

[nocturne dust]

Where atlas

[sturdy reef]

I will once the missions rotate

[split lance]

He said no

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

I’m not on yet anyway

[celest valve]

also the hate on gunker is fabricated entirely by veterans to hoard all the ammo themselves, those greedy bastards :c

[nocturne dust]

Imagine using a gun like some stupid blunt

[celest valve]

that's why we don't use it like a blunt. we have scrier's gaze

also the reload talent is great.

[nocturne dust]

Scrier's is the most boring ability

+damage

wow, gee fatshark, really mixing it up

[patent mango]

how did they know exactly what i wanted

[sturdy reef]

I love scriers

😦

[celest valve]

20% crit, extra finesse damage with a talent, possibly movement speed and/or toughness damage reduction if you want

[restive stag]

its true i know the veteran who spreads all the misinformation

[celest valve]

warp unbound gives you 10 seconds of unlimited staves

[nocturne dust]

Those side nodes suck

[celest valve]

you suck :c

[sturdy reef]

hey

[celest valve]

(toughness maybe, but movement speed is nice)

[sturdy reef]

hey hey hey