psyker-class

[devout sluice]

Steady aim?

Is that a vet talent?

[haughty star]

Its currently outputting like 14 percent as opposed to 5 lol

You can basically face tank a boss while aiming

[devout sluice]

Ok but

Autogun

Stinky

[haughty star]

Lol wut

[devout sluice]

Only autoguns have bracing no?

Brace =/= aim

[haughty star]

This is on ofryn

[devout sluice]

OGRYN

[haughty star]

Stubber

[devout sluice]

bruh

[haughty star]

And no it's just right click in general. You can use it with rumbler or kicky or whatever

[round coyote]

What’s some uh Psyker survival tips
I kinda just keep getting railed by guns mostly

[devout sluice]

Sorry i'm lost

I play pskyer and zealot

[devout sluice]

Barrier is best psyker ult, trauma staff staggers everything except monstrosities feom halfcharge up

[haughty star]

Kill them

[round coyote]

Can’t argue with that logic

[devout sluice]

Deimos force sword 2nd heavy (stab) makes ogryn enemies and human bosses stumble if headshot

Kinetic deflection is actually cool

[spice veldt]

if you haven't split your dodge and jump actions into different keybinds, do that
this will prevent the annoying behavior where you jump if you attempt to dodge during your dodge cooldown

[haughty star]

Kd is meh once you get good at survival on psyker

[devout sluice]

Toughness regen from first talents from warp dmg, crits waro kills, peril quell or gen is all a lot and lets you shield gate sometimes

[haughty star]

Like it's powerful but I find myself using less and less of it as I go so I rarely grab it anymore

[plucky flax]

Hide behind teammates

[haughty star]

The ressing thing is nice

[round coyote]

Frankly I want to get good enough at surviving before I start clutching on barrier, bc I fear it’ll make bad habits if I don’t

[devout sluice]

Havoc 40 gunners were railing me so much i picked it up again

But yeah its optional gimmick fun blessing

Imitate ogryn tank

Be jedi

[haughty star]

I can barely tolerate auric pubs rn and my squad isn't on

[round coyote]

Oh u meant deflector

[devout sluice]

Barrier is not crutch for you but for your team

You play psyker

You must be smart-ish right

[round coyote]

Questionable

[plucky flax]

You don't need bubble up to havoc 30

[devout sluice]

Barrier just babysits your team from most specialists and grenadiers

Which your team never picks on first

And you're too busy soloing a boss and a horde while they stumble on 1 crusher

Am i right?

[haughty star]

Auric pubs are so awful rn I might actually start using the lfg feature here

[devout sluice]

Jokes on you

[haughty star]

I'm not anything special myself but I'm a good addition to a team usually lol

[devout sluice]

Same people except vc

Its fun tho

[prime elk]

yeah just had a game where i had 7 rezzes

we got 2/3rds of the way through before i fucked up died

[devout sluice]

Rezzers?

Rizzlers?

[prime elk]

and then the team folded like wet tissue paper

[haughty star]

I'm just sick of every damn game either being multiple clutches on my part or just a straight loss if I can't make that happen lol

[prime elk]

wouldn't have gone down if somebody didn't double dip in the prior health station

[haughty star]

Ps5 and crusties ruining my experience

I meant to say rusties but I'll leave that it works too

[prime elk]

yeah i get people need to start auric somewhere

but i think a lot of them aren't even qualified for damnation

much less auric

[haughty star]

Thats what auric heresy is for stay out of my damn pubs and maelstrom lol

[fathom adder]

Game's difficulty curve resembles a hockey stick is why

[haughty star]

Not really. The only stark contrast is probably between sedition and malice imo

Hell I've seen crazier spawns on regular damnations with no conditions than I have on histg or hihg auric lol. Dd is cracked sometimes

[autumn lark]

Not even stay out of my havocs

https://tenor.com/view/dbz-frieza-laugh-gif-24518651

[plucky flax]

Only havoc 40 clearance and true survivor allowed in my lobby

[patent mango]

only havoc 1 in my lobby

[upper sun]

only A.S.S. in my lobby

[vocal fulcrum]

you don't "need" bubble, ever

you can use it

but you don't need to use it

[plucky flax]

I'm not good enough to play 40 without bubble currently

[vocal fulcrum]

yeah very likely to have skill issues, but it is possible if you're good enough

I can do 30+ didn't clear 40 on psyker yet

venting shriek goes so hard though

[plucky flax]

I did and I am bad so you can too

Skill issues is op

[unkempt patio]

shield is my favorite psyker ability

[vocal fulcrum]

shriek is def my favorite

[round coyote]

I’m a little scriers slut

[vocal fulcrum]

love to shriek 6 times a minute destroying absolutely everything in a 30m cone

[plucky flax]

I played havoc 37 with creeping flames but team had 2 bubbles anyway

1.4 Mil damage

[vocal fulcrum]

D: got the same yesterday at havoc 30

[round coyote]

Scriers just bolsters whatever weapons you’re already using which is like exactly what I want

[plucky flax]

Well then you had bubble no?

[round coyote]

If only charged smite didn’t suck butt

[plucky flax]

If you play as the only psyker and don't take bubble then it's rough

[vocal fulcrum]

no bubble

took too much shit damage at the end

[haughty star]

Smite is OP as hell lol

[round coyote]

Yeah no the ability is great I just meant the augment

[haughty star]

Oh yeah

[round coyote]

The one that bolsters your heavy attacks

[haughty star]

Fuck that stinky augment

[plucky flax]

I guess 2 choir bois for stun

[round coyote]

Yeah it smells bad

[vocal fulcrum]

yup double book + shout vet

with plasma gun

[haughty star]

And immunity from most things

[round coyote]

I want it to be good bc straight up I just want everything to bolster my weapons. I rarely ever use my blitz anyway.

[plucky flax]

You just don't have skill issues but I do

[vocal fulcrum]

nah I have them as well

I try and improve

[round coyote]

Maybe I should just run smite as a “just in case” since I don’t really need my blitz

[vocal fulcrum]

but you really need godlike game sense

to make this build shine

and I don't have it yet 🤷‍♂️

one day 🙏

[haughty star]

If you don't use blitz alot you can do burst with kinetic flayer

[vocal fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/jYKFS9IvZds

[round coyote]

True yeah

[haughty star]

Its non ironically really good now lol

[vocal fulcrum]

goals

[round coyote]

Oh actually? I thought it was just ok

[haughty star]

It only does elites and specialists now and the time is lower

[round coyote]

Oh sweet

[radiant frigate]

the cd was lowered too?

to what, 10s?

[haughty star]

13? Or some shit

15 maybe

It used to be 30

[radiant frigate]

when

[hybrid osprey]

is it ok that psyker can get slapped while charging up the blade and lose all meter for it

[round coyote]

It’s 15 now

[haughty star]

Like pre reloaded

[radiant frigate]

still was 15 no?

[hybrid osprey]

it feels real bad

[spice veldt]

it would've been 30 seconds long before my time then

as in straight up beta

[patent mango]

nvm i like relic blade mk2 more

[haughty star]

Its not from the smack its from the stun but soyker gets stunned by literally everything

[hybrid osprey]

i guess asking for a stun immunity on a big room clearing thing you can do every 20 seconds is a little much

[haughty star]

My main point and the only point that matters is it only kills specialists and elites now therefore isn't as butt as it used to be

[round coyote]

What should I lose/change to put on flayer

[zinc phoenix]

Ayy havoc 30 done

[summer prairie]

with what

[round coyote]

I’m using the mk2 laspistol and fgs8

[summer prairie]

what's warp unbound for

[zinc phoenix]

Got a really good team played burgatus bubble wc bb and cleared it

[round coyote]

Which one is that

[summer prairie]

SG no explosion

push attacks?

[round coyote]

Oh idk it was kind of just a safety blanket

I can get rid of that tbh

[zinc phoenix]

Ok so maybe I can get even higher than 30 😂 if I get good groups and they let me just vibe with purgatus while spamming book and voc it’s pretty solid

[autumn lark]

warp unbound is hella good

[summer prairie]

with gun and bb though

[round coyote]

I mean especially considering I’m rarely actually using bb

[devout sluice]

Warp unbound is for sg with staff lol

[zinc phoenix]

BB is niche but gold when you need it 😂

[thorn cedar]

if warp unbound wasnt prereq'd by precog i wouldnt take it tbh

but it is so its fucken awesome

[round coyote]

Also I think it would be great if BB had like a lingering effect, since it doesn’t really do impressive damage against monsters. Maybe if it stunned or bled or forced it to change targets or something idk

[devout sluice]

Bb used to do no damage

[round coyote]

Ye I know

[devout sluice]

Then they gigabuffed it on talents rework

[round coyote]

I started this game as a Psyker for a long time

[devout sluice]

But by then staffs were actually outdoing what bbb ever could by a lot

Qnd now we have even higher peaks of difficulty where once again bb falls off due to lack of any scaling

BUT

the funny augment that makes you spamcast it after ult + empowered psionic is fun

I still consider bb to be only ok psyker grenade option

Smite is waste of time

[celest valve]

guns:

sprint sideways. they can't hit you while you're sprinting sideways. this can be unreliable tho.

DOOOOOOODGE. They also can't hit you during a dodge! ...unless it's a gunner, in which case they will.

Slide! You can also slide during a dodge! Note this will destroy your fingers though without rebinding, I think a lot of people rebind slide to one of the side mouse keys for this reason. And dodge.

Throw anything vaguely in their direction as a panic reflex. They will, frequently, flinch even just a little letting you find cover. You can test this in the psykarium, as they have the full suppression AI and you can just mag dump various weapons into the ground harmlessly next to ranged units to see their reaction to it. (remember, damnation difficulty!)

[round coyote]

FGS 6 gets wrath and ?

[round coyote]

Oh you’re rad. Thanks!

[devout sluice]

And sheeosh shards wre only good if they make up for what your setuo lacks but they are still meh

[celest valve]

also of course you can just take bubble shield and panic drop it when you're scared. bubble shield is safe. you are safe inside the bubble. the bubble is your friend.

[ripe obsidian]

Wot's yer purg build?

[zinc phoenix]

Mild variation on what agent posted bc that made sense to me

[round coyote]

Sry I meant 8

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't see what agent posted. D:

[devout sluice]

Gunker brainrot

Staff lmb also high supression on enemies, very good to flinch gunners or reapers

[plucky flax]

I have a final one

[celest valve]

Also, if you see a gunner and it's shooting but NOT shooting at you. Please, help your team out. Shoot the gunner. Gunners can only shoot at one person at a time. They tend to focus and ignore other people. take advantage of this

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/oliver-twist-1948-please-sir-i-want-some-more-please-sir-i-want-some-more-gif-2228167917865608284

[celest valve]

tbf i tried to be as generic as possible as yes, most staves also have high suppression(in part because suppression is also used by the AI system to tell melee units to target the backline :p)

I'm pretty sure the reason why ogryns get targeted more isn't because of any inherent thing. It's because their guns are really, really loud. And really suppressy.

in fact, suppression is double the threat of another common action: killing enemies. With ranged guns.

[devout sluice]

🤔

[plucky flax]

At the start
https://youtu.be/XOkz8gRiOIA

[celest valve]

(melee apparently has zero threat. Whatsoever. For some reason. enemy units will beeline towards ranged units suppressing and/or killing units, while completely and utterly ignoring melee.)

[ripe obsidian]

Tusen takk

[celest valve]

(...except for of course when melee is in the way.)

[ripe obsidian]

Wait

[celest valve]

(which they tend to be, because melee)

[devout sluice]

Therefore purgatus op since it has huge supression innately so enemies run it down at you but you just flame them lol?

[celest valve]

ya. the autopistol also 'suffers' from this

[devout sluice]

Cool

Actually learned something

[plucky flax]

Uh let me try to get a build editor link

[celest valve]

anyway yeah for suppression I would heavily recommend testing weapons out in the psykarium, as enemies will start to flinch and stumble around and even run away if suppressy enough

[ripe obsidian]

Thank you

[celest valve]

afaik this tends to be a ranged thing though, I have not actually noticed any sort of suppression on melee units. Shooting units with a bolter pistol looks like they're flinching away from the shot or being suppressed... but in reality bolters just have a fucking massive explosion AOE if you kill someone from 5 meters away or more.

(or at any distance with the perk)

....that deals like 99.99% impact damage lol.

[patent mango]

darktide is a chorus like game

(we have 3 chorus zealots)

[celest valve]

oh yeah also enemies will apparently try and approach from one of three main flanks. Main flank, left flank, right flank. These are the internal names and likely do not correspond to anything I think other than the main flank is likely where the main threat is coming from.

[modest perch]

Does the 🅱️istol with the funny blessing affect exploding from warp headache ?

[radiant frigate]

darktide is a singing game

[celest valve]

and specialists/maybe ranged units try and come in from the flanks to surprise you

[radiant frigate]

like singstar

[patent mango]

its real and true

[summer prairie]

what is that build above

[celest valve]

this is why veteran can make things a snooze fest IMO: because veteran is particularly specialized at taking out the threats that flank you, leaving the rest of the squad to focus on the main lane of combat where the horde(and elites) are coming from.

[radiant frigate]

is it

[celest valve]

psyker can do that too but I have not seen anyone play with psyker revolver much despite being able to just delete any number of specials with ease

[summer prairie]

ER and BM shriek purg for havoc? or surge?

[celest valve]

and zealots are the screaming hyperactive kid in the room bouncing off the walls i dunno what's up with them

[ripe obsidian]

If anyone needs another person for a ~25+ Havoc, I would like to join. I'm struggling to find groups to join in party finder. They're all lower than me or too high to want me. D:

[raw token]

is it true that purg is better than trauma for havoc 40

[celest valve]

a bad trauma can screw over the team by ensuring that melee allies take chip damage and don't get melee toughness on kill regen

purgatus comparatively afaik is pretty hard to screw up. flamethrower things until they're dead in a lane. repeat. It can blind allies, but those blinded allies are generally not in danger due to the whole staggering nature of... uh... fire.

[raw token]

makes sense

[tribal girder]

anybody noticed that using scream now interrupts your smite? It is beyond infuriating

[celest valve]

note i have no experience in that, just mostly logicing it out while trying to stay neutral in which is better than the other :V

since some people swear by the trauma while i've never really been a fan of it lol

[raw token]

trauma is definitely my least favourite of the 4

[modest perch]

I feel like it got stealth nerfed

[raw token]

surge is my favourite by far but it just falls off sooo hard in havoc

[celest valve]

ranged units were cut down on in early darktide days IMO because people were trying to vermintide 2 it up

[sturdy reef]

thats because it does ranged damage

inferno just shits out soulblaze procs which dont get nerfed in havoc

[celest valve]

but now we have large amounts of ranged units that can be quite overwhelming if you're not prepared for it, like the infamous gunners

[feral verge]

Surge is quite useful in havoc

But the trick isnt the charged rmb

It's LMB spam

[plucky flax]

Choir bois

[feral verge]

Infinite suppression stick. Constant crits means constant dodges vs ranged, constant toughness Regen + movement speed (if you have the feats)

[plucky flax]

No

[raw token]

but thats just purg but with slightly more range and less crits and suppression

and no dot

[feral verge]

Way more range lol

[silver echo]

I definitely prefer purg to trauma in my havoc games but I've only gotten into the 30s

[raw token]

yeah but thats not really the important part in high havoc i feel

[feral verge]

Gunner damage fall off buff is a problem, gunners are a threat at range now

Even in base auric too

[silver echo]

shooters and gunners are 90% of the threat now

[nocturne dust]

purg actually goes out quite a distance

[plucky flax]

Burga is just easier to play

[feral verge]

You're telling me, the purga main that

[sturdy reef]

surge LMB suppresses everything

[feral verge]

I am well aware

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[plucky flax]

If you are good you can do a lot with trauma especially as lone psyker in team

[sturdy reef]

lol

[nocturne dust]

[silver echo]

a single dreg shooter volley takes away 2/3rds of my toughness at this point it's crazy

[nocturne dust]

[raw token]

i mean what makes surge so good to me in non havoc is how insanely good the breakpoints are with rmb crits - when havoc takes that away it kinda just feels like a waste of a weapon

[silver echo]

I would rather have every trash mob in the game be a rager or mauler if it meant not needing to worry about gunners being selected as the area elite

[plucky flax]

You can still surge maxxing if you have bubbles slave

[feral verge]

Yee im using bubble

[celest valve]

so what you're saying is that it's nowhere near death for you

[plucky flax]

No I mean get others to use bubbles for you

Then you are free to surge and creeping flames

[celest valve]

Ranged units are utterly harmless until your toughness breaks, unlike melee units.

[plucky flax]

Xd
https://youtu.be/nrpl8sNwtG4

[feral verge]

I stay in the backline and just LMB spam to turn the shooters off for the team

[silver echo]

brother melee units don't have 30m of range on their attacks

[celest valve]

And if you have someone else making sure melee units don't reach you? You are invincible to ranged units. make them pay

(you are not actually invincible please use cover and suppressing fire)

[celest valve]

melee units like ranged units also both have limits on how fast they can attack you at once :p

[summer prairie]

When everything has SB breakpoints don't matter

[raw token]

i mean needing others to make the build viable by choosing bubble isnt great

and its more just a shriek build

isnt it?

[plucky flax]

Yeah and you fulfil a dps role anyway

[celest valve]

also bubble is only effective IMO because it's a clear signifier of where to stay instead of running off like a headless chicken to go die

[plucky flax]

Instead of a vet

[analog agate]

On high havoc you need others to make your build complete anyways though…

[celest valve]

(or rather why it's considered as effective as people think it is)

(it's still quite good but)

[plucky flax]

In fact I do way more than a vet because the zealot is free to grab all ammo to spam his flamer

[silver echo]

I run shriek

[plucky flax]

Dot stacking on dot

25 soul blaze 16 fire

Veri cool

[silver echo]

as long as you're either cowardly enough to never be seen by shooters or manly enough to get close enough to stagger everything shriek will do way more imo

[summer prairie]

It's going to be slower with no defensive abilities

[plucky flax]

I imagine no choir and bubble will be pain

Choir especially the area suppression is way too much

[silver echo]

I've never done a high havoc without the team having overtoughness generation tbh

[modest perch]

It is shockingly high lol

[silver echo]

it's just too good

especially since it doesn't get reduced values from the modifiers

[tacit stump]

gun psyker with fgs feels like a crazy glasscannoin

[modest perch]

Yknow come to think of it I don’t think we had gold toughness on my h40 team. Dps all the way

[plucky flax]

Hmmm how come?

[tacit stump]

i feel so quishy but my damage is the highest

and i like the mk6 fgs

but the mk 8 isn't bad either similar to the rgs from zealot

[hidden coral]

I tend to like that build since you get to stack quite a bit of toughness resist compared to a lot of psyker builds haha. Between the Scrier's and the crits

So in my head it's less glass cannon and more goblin mode, thanks to the +40% movespeed

[plucky flax]

If you don't have assail you should try it. Good way to stagger stuff for extra safety

[tacit stump]

shredding a horde with assail shards and regenating thoughness through it

[nocturne dust]

and so you don't get instantly gibbed by the tiniest nick from a ranged enemy

that's actually the far more important part on Havoc

[spice veldt]

yeah, deterministic protection to do whatever you want in an area for at least 6 seconds is pretty neat

[nocturne dust]

Time spent trying to not die is time not spent murderizing heretics

[silver echo]

I wonder if the current state of ranged enemies is what fatshark wants or if they're gonna get nerfed again

[hidden rune]

recommendations? i have one with 60 warp resistance if thats better

[muted grove]

How do I use an inferno staff? The normal attack seems lame which makes me confident I’m misusing it and I don’t see how the charger attack is any different?

[nocturne dust]

I do like that they removed gunner stun

[nocturne dust]

read this https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide

[marble crater]

Warp resistance is better dump, carapace, unyielding, wrath and your choice

[silver echo]

several times now I've had gunners basically do a drive by walking right past you in melee range just lighting you up, they also seem to swivel like crazy

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, gunners should be a bit easier to handle in melee imo, especially when you're also dealing with other stuff at the same time.

[muted grove]

Thank you!

What triggers kinetic resonance? Brain pop?

[nocturne dust]

If you got that close, they should just fall on your blade

[nocturne dust]

KR is triggered by ability use

so shriek/bubble/scrier's

[muted grove]

Any ability or a specific

Ah thank you!!

[marble crater]

FYI it stacks if you use two wall shields

[nocturne dust]

yes

only use for double wall that isn't completely redundant or done by bubble better

[marble crater]

Machine gun BB, kill one poxwalker in havoc in 3 seconds

[silver echo]

I still kinda hate corruption goo more than the range DR one tbh. Maybe it's cause I do most of my damage with warpfire

[marble crater]

Goo severely limits where you can move around to play and if you don't pay attention it's rip

Range DR you can deal with more easily, imo

[silver echo]

yea I wish it either didn't last as long, or didn't infect other mobs with it

at least there's a reason for zealots to throw away 4 points for becon of purity now

[nocturne dust]

Cleanse bot

[marble crater]

I always liked benediction, it's very unique in how it works

[silver echo]

I actually quite like beacon of purity as well

the fact that all the nodes above it are so ass is very unfortunate

[nocturne dust]

Lol, this update is funny and made all the toys I like good

BoP, Bubble

[radiant ice]

God I hate this party finder system

[nocturne dust]

[radiant ice]

Straight "Request Declined" for 40 minutes

I just wanna play a havoc game 😐

[nocturne dust]

Host your own

[radiant ice]

And my hosting is broke, waiting on an ObeseFish ticket

[nocturne dust]

rip

[marble crater]

Back to auric for you

"Reject gets rejected from Havoc, more news at 9"

[nocturne dust]

I put out a match on the party finder and got like 2 dozen requests in under 2 seconds

[silver echo]

yea normal aurics are haz 30 difficulty rn anyways since your 3 teammates will be bots

[gritty gorge]

imagine being able to load in lol

[radiant ice]

Unfortunately my hosting broke a couple days back

And I can't get into any as a joiner

[silver echo]

yea you instantly get flooded with requests if you're doing high level games

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, you're just gonna get lost in the swamp of join requests

[silver echo]

it actually gets annoying since the names keep jumping around

[stable summit]

does it work on power sword?

and this

[nocturne dust]

I wasn't even high, that was havoc 20-something

[radiant ice]

Yeah I'm Havoc 27

But just can't get any game that's 25+

[marble crater]

Do you mean the special? The warp slice thing can't crit

[stable summit]

oh

[radiant ice]

I've hit a roadblock purely from matchmaking

[stable summit]

ok

[silver echo]

grinding my own account at havoc 29 rn, I get 8 requests in 10 seconds

[marble crater]

Ranged damage, not sure. I think I read it works

[silver echo]

80% of the player base seems to be playing zealot rn from all the requests I get

[radiant ice]

I would love it, if the game would let me host without breaking

And I'm a Psyker, of course XD

[nocturne dust]

cleanse bot zealot is very useful

Generally, that's what makes the most sense to me: bible boys with cleanse for easy gold toughness and a way to fight against unholy blight

[zinc phoenix]

Ok so havoc is kinda trivialized by a choir boy

Just did 31

[radiant ice]

Choir boy + dome

= easy mode

[zinc phoenix]

Our first run no book, we die horrible

[strong gulch]

I haven't tried it but I wouldn't be surprised if the FGS counted as ranged because the push attack counts as ranged for the purposes of the mobian inflected explosion head things.

[zinc phoenix]

Our second run book, we win easily

[plucky flax]

Choir boi

Just chant and win

Free 20% damage for the team btw

[zinc phoenix]

I barbecue he reads, perfect day 👍

[marble crater]

We love our spaghetti Fatshark code

[plucky flax]

Barbecue

[nocturne dust]

yes

[zinc phoenix]

The zealot was converted to it only grumpily but by the end was like “fuck yeah book book book reading rainbow mfers”

[nocturne dust]

I actually like playing book boi because it means other people do all the work while I get to be lazy

[upper sun]

chior boy chanting giving me time to quell manually 🤗

[nocturne dust]

my only job is monsters and stragglers

[silver echo]

one of the blessings on the weapon is exclusively so the wave can be guaranteed to crit are you sure that it doesn't?

[earnest sand]

Anyone experience a bug where the fgs charge meter goes away from the HUD?

[radiant ice]

I really like support builds so I like book boy too, but I don't have my curios up to date with zealot

[plucky flax]

His chant is so enchanting it makes heretic stop to listen. The power of church

[clear heath]

chorus zealot is so insanely useful that they could do like no damage and i wouldn't even care

[plucky flax]

They need to hit every now and then to get their cdr faster

[nocturne dust]

oh lawd

[upper sun]

just get another zealot

[nocturne dust]

I have to make a book elmo now

[upper sun]

100% uptime

chorus into smite into second chorus

[nocturne dust]

Hhhhmmmm but the choir pulse will be weird and hard for my smooth non-artist brain to do

[plucky flax]

You don't need smite you should be trauma or burga ing

[nocturne dust]

Smite is useful tho.

Like, yeah, you don't need it but it certainly helps.

[patent mango]

smite is good to get charged strike

then cry when u try i t

[nocturne dust]

😔

Charged Strike very good, just switch timelines to the one where it works with FGS ranged slice

[plucky flax]

If you have have 2 choir bois and a smiter too it's no enough damage. The round is going to be so slow

[nocturne dust]

oh, well yeah

[patent mango]

this is the only timeline where fgs is actually real

[hidden coral]

Smite worked great in the 37 I just ran! You end up getting so many kills with it, if you have battle mediation you won't have to stop to quell for ages

[nocturne dust]

but normally my comp is 1 book boi and 3 psykers

[patent mango]

comp is 4 relic zealots

[silver echo]

the other person was wrong the wave can crit, but true aim does not work for it still

[patent mango]

with max cdr

[plucky flax]

You should try 2 bubbles 1 surge creeping flames maxxing

[upper sun]

no

[nocturne dust]

we did

[upper sun]

4 bubble

auras stack

[nocturne dust]

The surger was also using smite

[patent mango]

4 bubble

[nocturne dust]

and switching as needed

[upper sun]

you can have 4x toughness regen auras

[plucky flax]

No kf bad surger

[nocturne dust]

Tbh KF really sucks in Havoc

[upper sun]

damn now i wanna do 40 havoc 4 bubble comp

[patent mango]

i can hop on for this

[upper sun]

tho theres no boss damage

[patent mango]

would be hilarious

just fgs stab them

[plucky flax]

My experience says otherwise.

[nocturne dust]

watching it proc and do 0 damage to a ranged-resistant Ogryn is 😔

[celest valve]

DID YOU KNOW: wielding a 2h force sword makes you slightly faster.

[nocturne dust]

I mean it still helps, but it ain't no PC enabler or anything on Havoc due to the ranged resist

[celest valve]

Exactly 2.5% faster over the 0.4s duration.

[plucky flax]

Still free damage every 15s during fight which can last up to a minute

Or 2

[hazy moss]

what is it with stealth zealots and trolling

[radiant frigate]

that's just how zealot do

[clear heath]

trolling with stealth zealot is the greatest joy in the game

[hazy moss]

truly some of the most brain dented people ive ever met

[jovial scarab]

either they carry the entire team or are useless and invis right after bringing the entire horde into your face

[plucky flax]

In havoc or just normal mode?

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but defensive nodes or smite may be more useful. I'm not good like you

[analog agate]

I have a vet build and ogryn build now

[hazy moss]

in havoc :'(

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

Ouch that's rude rip the host

[jovial scarab]

RIP

hopefully wasnt high level havoc

[analog agate]

Lol did this happen to you right after I left?

[minor pond]

Anyone else with points available in a mastered weapon triggering the mastery to be constantly showing it?

[patent mango]

is it electrokinetic staff again

[minor pond]

Yes

That answers that lol

[patent mango]

lol

[minor pond]

Ty for the quick reply lol. Guess I just sit and hope for a future fix?

[patent mango]

yup

might take months tbh

[minor pond]

ok that I can do.

[jovial scarab]

maybe they will add a new blessing, who knows

that'd fix it

I notice a lot of folks really love going for kinetic deflection, any specific reason?

[radiant frigate]

very powerful for securing resses in melee

[patent mango]

its melee

i run melee build

[jovial scarab]

on non melee builds

[patent mango]

res

[jovial scarab]

ig

havent had that situation pop up yet

either that or I am a bonehead

[hazy moss]

psyker has low stamina, kd lets you block infinitely for free, in high difficulties that can be super op, also literally free revives

[jovial scarab]

suppose thats p good

[raw token]

is the party finder dead in the eu or is it everywhere

[quartz barn]

might have to limit your tags to just one or two things

• if its anything other than havoc expect it to be dead lmao

[raw token]

my only tag is havoc 25+

[quartz barn]

oh ye those are pretty rare

mostly because there just arent a lot of people who hosted up to that point

im at 29 myself but cant host for example

[raw token]

yh surely next week they'll be pretty plentiful

[polar crypt]

my guess is most sensible people probably just went to a high tier one and are gonna leap up to like 25+ in, about... 28 hours

[upper sun]

you guys need a +1?

[polar crypt]

and then I assume that's where a lot of people are gonna get stuck too

[raw token]

then the problem is gonna be that everyone wants to host instead

[polar crypt]

the only thing is it will always be preferable to do other people's higher tier missions because it costs you nothing to try it

[upper sun]

i mean.......

we're all gonna be higher level tomorrow

so i think hosting issues should stop soon

[analog agate]

I’ll always be down to never host cause I want those sweet penance rewards

[patent mango]

i dont think im getting 40

i hope cache 37 is good lmao

(gonna be slop)

[polar crypt]

I am glad everyone has already agreed that the 'weekly cache' is gonna suck

I look forward to people defending it like "but it's free it's weekly it doesn't require any effort!!!! it's balanced!!!!"

[clear heath]

Did they really not post the rewards from tbe weekly box anywhere?

[polar crypt]

nope

probably deliberately so

[clear heath]

wow

[nocturne dust]

not me, my highest is self-hosted 😔

[clear heath]

my highest is self hosted too

[polar crypt]

not mine my highest is like 12 but my clearance is 24

[plucky flax]

I wish there were havoc 40 melee scab only

[polar crypt]

lol

[plucky flax]

Would be funny

[polar crypt]

this armor doesn't seem to fit very well

[clear heath]

honestly surprised melee scab only isn't a havoc condition

[plucky flax]

Maybe they are making

[silver echo]

that would be amazing

[plucky flax]

Fs veri slow

[silver echo]

even more free than darkness + dogs

[radiant frigate]

death to the bubble meta?

[wet ferry]

What perks would I want on a combat blade for psyker? usual manic/unyielding kinda thing?

[plucky flax]

I just want some funny big sword time in hard content. 50 crushers and maulers but if they touch you you die

[patent mango]

i think to fix havoc they need to remove ranged enemies

[radiant frigate]

mmmm big sord

havoc so tupid

[plucky flax]

Warudo you would have liked to join our big sword melee scab only I bet

Replace clad the traitor

[radiant frigate]

makes ranged enemies more dangerous, so are you supposed to play it like a tactical shooter now?

but then, less ammo?

[patent mango]

woulda been funny

[radiant frigate]

incomprehensible

[plucky flax]

We played big swords only only use range for specials.

Jousting big armoured ogryns

[patent mango]

funny

thats my default build

[silver echo]

gunners are as strong as flamers now and as such should be made a specialist

that way there isn't a gunner and 4 shooters every 15 feet

[round coyote]

I’m in between deflector and unstable power for my second FGS blessing. I’m using unstable and it’s great for my build and damage, but deflector seems like it would be a good QOL choice

[mental grail]

is this worth grabbing before the reset?

[polar crypt]

deflector would be good for havoc

[nocturne dust]

not unless you haven't the resources to get a perfect one and want to play it now

[polar crypt]

if you really really really want to use the bolt pistol and don't have one at max, then sure, it's not great though you want 60% collateral

[round coyote]

Hmmm then might be good to start getting used to it.

[polar crypt]

idk how high in havoc you could actually take it because hordes get increased mass so you also need wrath and high cleave

[round coyote]

My other blessing, as was suggested to me, is wrath

[polar crypt]

yeah

if you can take wrath then you might do like, OK

[nocturne dust]

or 60% mobility

[round coyote]

Why just ok

[nocturne dust]

melee isn't a great tool in high havoc

[round coyote]

Ah

[patent mango]

no fun allowed in high havoc

[polar crypt]

yeah you aren't going to be playing like fake-zealot in high havoc

[round coyote]

My laspistol is pretty good

[silver echo]

melee can't hold up vs infinite cleave staves

[polar crypt]

yeah

[radiant frigate]

we hates that fact

[polar crypt]

inferno staff for the win

[radiant frigate]

(we played one game of flamer staff with many bubbles)

[nocturne dust]

I'm fine with havoc's hyper-specific setup requirements, my only issue is it's the only requirement. Literally any havoc mission wants the same thing.

[round coyote]

If I used a staff I think I’d use either void or trauma. I wasn’t really a huge fan of purg or surge when I played them way back when

[nocturne dust]

It would be cool if the modifiers changed enough that you could get other specific requirements.

[haughty star]

I've not noticed a difference with or without it. Especially with scriers cuz you really want by crack of bone to keep that peril low

[round coyote]

Yeh I’ve got by crack of bone

So you’re suggesting against deflector?

[silver echo]

that's because all the challange from havoc is currently coming from shooter enemies and the various buffs to them and debuffs to us

[nocturne dust]

Like, replacing Emperor's Fading Light with some modifier that makes all damage outside of blitzes terrible

[polar crypt]

it's called the inferno staff

and use it because it is busted

if there is literally any time to just start picking things that are good it's probably havoc in general

[nocturne dust]

Deflector is fine in Havoc. I wouldn't bother outside of Havoc though.

[round coyote]

Ahh

[tacit stump]

how is mk 7 infantry las and mk 7 vigilant auto on gunker

[clear heath]

they should make the ranged resistant enemies also immune to DoTs to make them extra cancer

[mental grail]

which one is that?

[clear heath]

no more inferno abuse

[silver echo]

soooo true

[mental grail]

agripinaa?

[nocturne dust]

trauma still ignores them too iirc

[tacit stump]

graia single shot

[nocturne dust]

[clear heath]

psyker favouritism...

[mental grail]

provided you can aim with irons it's pretty great

[nocturne dust]

[mental grail]

it's a classic

[round coyote]

So I guess I should trauma it up then

[mental grail]

as there should be

[round coyote]

I was in between trauma and void

[mental grail]

I like void for bowling purposes

[nocturne dust]

Void kinda sucks in Havoc

Voidstrike that is

[mental grail]

charge the funny ball and throw it at the group

[round coyote]

I’m having a sort of dilemma. Do I go for purgatus since it’ll fit with wildfire and the like, or do I go with trauma because of versatility

[mental grail]

Trauma is more helpful at breaking up groups

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah ok havoc 32 done, this is clearly a solved mode

I’ll be at 40 by the end of the week

[nocturne dust]

Trauma also wants wildfire

[round coyote]

Yeah

[nocturne dust]

I was surprised when you said you were going to stick around 20

[round coyote]

Also which staff is trauma? Is it void blast?

[nocturne dust]

yes

[zinc phoenix]

Issue was getting a team with zealots willing to run book

Soon as you do it’s gg

[round coyote]

Dumb that they changed the names but thanks

[zinc phoenix]

The whole mode is just easy at that point

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[zinc phoenix]

Literally spam book with psych aura

Boom, done, solved

But they want to run chastise 😂

[nocturne dust]

wait until new modifier that drops that is just nurgle blessed but all enemies

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t think it’d really matter tbh

[analog agate]

Yeah it would

[nocturne dust]

no suppression, no stun?

wtf u mean

[analog agate]

It would clear the safety of bubble

[digital narwhal]

Who needs to run support ults in Havoc? Just kill the enemies, 4head

[patent mango]

4 bubbles

[silver echo]

imagine seeing 10 nurgle blessed + ranged immune gunners on the other side of a wide open coverless corridor

[round coyote]

lol I feel so dumb fishing for people under level 30 in QP just because I need the event dockets

[polar crypt]

peak tedium

[zinc phoenix]

Unless they make it mandatory you can just roll on past that setup

Like people already dodge modifier + mission they don’t want

[patent mango]

just make every ability give overtoughness in ahvoc

its so genius

[silver echo]

that's the other strategy tbh, if you can gap close shit instantly you can still beat the mode not too bad

there was the 3 ogryn havoc 40 run for an example

[zinc phoenix]

Literally just bull rush everything 😂

[silver echo]

yerp

[nocturne dust]

bubble gold toughness

[zinc phoenix]

Gold toughness should go as a mechanic tbh

[patent mango]

lol

[digital narwhal]

Agreed

Needs to die

[zinc phoenix]

It was a bad idea and keeps making the game stupider and stupider

[patent mango]

lmao

[silver echo]

gold toughness should just not be able to regenerate

[zinc phoenix]

Or delete it

[silver echo]

so you only get the 50/100 and thats it

[polar crypt]

they didn't make havoc because of gold toughness

they made havoc because they want to make the game harder but they don't have a way normally other than to scale up enemy spawns and I would assume they don't wanna do that for the sake of console players, who already chug on higher difficulties anyway

so for havoc they just scale up enemy stats

[nocturne dust]

If gold toughness gets deleted, zealots and vets will review bomb the game

[polar crypt]

and make players weaker

[nocturne dust]

😔

[polar crypt]

now it's """more challenging""" which is exactly why this kind of artificial difficulty never works

[silver echo]

executioner's stance and worse zealot stealth

there definitely are more spawns though

[zinc phoenix]

They could literally just let all enemies block and the game would become instantly harder 😂

Mount and Blade style AI just blocking you all the time

[nocturne dust]

only if they get a stamina bar that gets instantly broken the moment I overhead them

[patent mango]

chiv 2 style counters

[nocturne dust]

fair is fair, if crushers can overhead me, I should be able to overhead crushers

[silver echo]

space marine 2 tzeetnch boys

[zinc phoenix]

I’m just saying they could make the game mechanically way more complex and challenging without all this goofiness and it’d be more fun to boot

By adding block

For baddies

[nocturne dust]

eh

[zinc phoenix]

Look at how much bulwark sets people off 😂

[polar crypt]

no one wants that

[zinc phoenix]

I want that

[polar crypt]

it wouldn't make the game more complex it'd make it WAY less fun

[zinc phoenix]

At least one person

[nocturne dust]

It would literally just enforce the ranged meta harder

Bad idea

[zinc phoenix]

Meh

[nocturne dust]

unless you want to give everyone Bulwark shields

[polar crypt]

the game would literally stop working if you had to have a little sekiro duel with each individual ranged scab or whatever

[nocturne dust]

but that would just enforce the purg/trauma meta harder

[polar crypt]

like do you literally play on sedition or something

where there's only 3 guys in the map?

[nocturne dust]

You cannot win with more blocking

[silver echo]

does anyone know if corruption resist curio blessing does anything vs goo

[nocturne dust]

wdym I can't have a duel with each individual enemy in the horde game?

[silver echo]

since i'm running it at 1x and it seems to do 5 per tic

[nocturne dust]

it do

I think

[radiant frigate]

if enemies start blocking we would just have to use more Gun Fu

a la "parry this you fucking casual"

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress2-tf2engineer-use-a-gun-and-if-that-dont-work-gif-17911768

[radiant frigate]

on the flipside, perhaps dclaw good now

[nocturne dust]

no

[radiant frigate]

but, uh, that's not too interesting

[patent mango]

dclaw gone forever

[radiant frigate]

since the element of timing is very much an afterthought with dclaw

[polar crypt]

it would be somewhat neat if like when a horde approaches instead like every single dude just encircles you then they all approach you one at a time so you can stab them in the face, but, it'd be incredibly stupid

[nocturne dust]

overheads need timing

[silver echo]

I don't get why dclaw doesn't have a single parry related blessing

[nocturne dust]

because Fatshark

[radiant frigate]

but power greatsword has 2 based on perfect blocks

10% attack speed for 3 seconds on perfect block with an internal cooldown of 8 seconds?

[nocturne dust]

Dclaw wouldn't even be that terrible if it had good blessings

[radiant frigate]

what garbage is this

[nocturne dust]

but it just sucks

[silver echo]

just give it like 75% rend on parry attack

[polar crypt]

that would actually be somewhat neat as a gimmick, if when captains spawn in missions just every enemy nearby approaches just to like cheer and watch as the captain quote unquote 'beats you up' and then when he dies they all run away because you're so mighty, but, that would also be incredibly stupid

[nocturne dust]

300% rend

[radiant frigate]

woe, stagger blessings be upon ye

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-cheering-cheer-crowd-crowd-dancing-gif-25395339

[proper osprey]

Dclaw has shred and rampage what

[nocturne dust]

lmao

[proper osprey]

It’s good

[nocturne dust]

Those blessings aren't great

[silver echo]

both of those are just ok

[gritty gorge]

it'd be really funny though imagine seeing a poxwalker wilhelm scream

[nocturne dust]

Go look at uncanny and headtaker

[proper osprey]

[nocturne dust]

and then tell me rampage and shred are good

[silver echo]

or brutal momentum or precog

[unkempt knoll]

how much of a crack addict does your psyker look

[nocturne dust]

[silver echo]

or power cycler

[patent mango]

power cycler dclaw

[nocturne dust]

precog actually not that great

[gritty gorge]

is there any other look

[silver echo]

or the better version of shred, riposte

[nocturne dust]

duration is

[proper osprey]

Look at parry and tell me you need those

[patent mango]

yes

[nocturne dust]

yes

[proper osprey]

[nocturne dust]

[polar crypt]

if that's not a mod it should be

[nocturne dust]

Nobody runs Dclaw outside of its one gimmick for memes

[polar crypt]

even like a 2% chance of a wilhelm on enemy death would be the funniest shit

[nocturne dust]

not for efficiency or meta or niche or anything else

[proper osprey]

I used to run it on melee psyker

[nocturne dust]

You can run it

[proper osprey]

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

I can run autoshredder

[polar crypt]

don't use shredder

if you really want to you can use the dclaw but don't

[proper osprey]

But the force gs is too good

[polar crypt]

it just means you sac stamina for hitting the enemy when you could literally just hit him for no stamina cost and do the same damage or better

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/you-can't-stop-me-mark-grayson-invincible-i'll-do-what-i-want-you-won't-stand-in-my-way-gif-15971859800786576721

[polar crypt]

no I can't but I will seethe about it

[nocturne dust]

Force devil's claw when

[polar crypt]

just a total failure of a gun

[proper osprey]

Ok that with unstable power and repoist would be good

[nocturne dust]

I want it to be so OP that deflector on it is meta because it just kills things

[proper osprey]

Yeah how about they get rid of shred and just give us repoist

[polar crypt]

it is weird they didn't reuse the parry on like any other weapon

[silver echo]

if you parry a bullet with deflector it sends it right back to the shooter

[nocturne dust]

riposte doesn't make sense on the parry weapon

[nocturne dust]

[polar crypt]

for some reason the duelling sword doesn't have a parry/riposte on special, it just has a little stupid stab

[nocturne dust]

I've always wanted to parry bullets

[gritty gorge]

play bloodborne, you can parry bullets with more bullets

[proper osprey]

It’s crit for 6 seconds so your parries can crit

[nocturne dust]

exhibit A

[nocturne dust]

Exhibit B

[pale plover]

How is this sword

[silver echo]

2 new dclaw blessings: parry attacks +100% crit, parry attacks +75% rend

[nocturne dust]

eh

Blessings are

Perks are

[pale plover]

What are better blessings

[nocturne dust]

Stats are

[celest valve]

psyker FGS stuff

0.5s to activate the energy

[pale plover]

What perks and blessings and stats do you want on it

[ornate hamlet]

So it seems the greatsword is personal opinion.. I've got Shred and Warp Slash. Ya'll think Shred and Wrath would be better?

[celest valve]

0.7s before you can start an attack with it

[shy pewter]

Dump warp resistance if you can

[nocturne dust]

dump warp res, get carapace and unyielding, get wrath and [preference]

[radiant frigate]

dclaw would be 100000% improved if it had uncanny

[patent mango]

dclaw would be better if it deal damage

[nocturne dust]

I normally use deflector for havoc, but I hear riposte is good otherwise

[ornate hamlet]

Really, Wrath is the one you need basekit always?

[nocturne dust]

I like The FGS style of 'do enough damage that good blessings are unnecessary'

[shy pewter]

Havoc has really meaty enemies with high hitmass, wrath helps offset that

[radiant frigate]

FGS is like vt2 weapons

in that it just works

right out of the box

[nocturne dust]

Not super necessary but no blessing is on FGS

[silver echo]

wrath has been very good on the latest weapons fatshark has released tbh

[pale plover]

Man it is not giving me dump Warp Res

[silver echo]

it's great on both the relic sword and pickaxes as well

[pale plover]

All of the swords I am getting have 80 Warp Res

[patent mango]

whos the wrath enjoyer in fatshark

[nocturne dust]

FGS does have low cleave for what you would expect though, so wrath is nice even outside havoc

[ornate hamlet]

Kind of decided to try a new skill tree and it's been working well for me

Man I hate that I just enjoy zealot so much

I wanna play more psyker

[nocturne dust]

that's... a tree.

[polar crypt]

playing psyker is frustrating as all hell because your teammates treat the crazy shit you do like it's not even there

[celest valve]

then a minimum of 0.266 seconds to start the swing damage, or like.... iunno almost a whole second to unleash the slash

[ornate hamlet]

Well, the bonus' from the keystones are nice, Assail for ranged enemies, and I've got shock staff for overwhelmed carapace situations.

[celest valve]

invalid_start_action_for_stat_calculation = true also this is probably why the psyker slash thingie doesn't like... proc anything

[nocturne dust]

sure but the talent choices are really weird

especially for a meleeker

[ornate hamlet]

Which ones you choosing? This ones been doing me fine for Havoc 23+

[nocturne dust]

ddduuuuummmmmbbbbb

[polar crypt]

like oh let me just hold this choke and kill the entire horde- THERE IS ONLY WARRRR and then the zealots rush through
I have a bubble here, stand in it so you don't get shot- then the stealthing zealot gets down by like five reapers and a mauler for good measure
look at me, I'm smiting, I have every enemy in the game frozen, kill them all for me- why are you all running past me

[silver echo]

why by crack of bone with no skriers

[nocturne dust]

you.... you're taking meleeker into havoc?

[pale plover]

So would Finesse be a ok dump stat or do I just need to keep rolling until warp res is the dump stat

[nocturne dust]

[ornate hamlet]

I play with competent people

[celest valve]

at some point you have to be a wizard

[silver echo]

even with scriers I kinda hate by crack of bone tbh but with no scriers why even run it

[polar crypt]

finesse is never the dump stat

[nocturne dust]

Fair but still

[pale plover]

I got 60% on finese

[celest valve]

and let them do utterly dumb things, get scared, and play like a coward for you to swoop in and save them

[radiant frigate]

hell no

[polar crypt]

I don't even know what weapon you are talking about but NEVER EVER DO THAT

[pale plover]

Fek I need to keep rolling

[nocturne dust]

keep rolling

[polar crypt]

you NEED to keep rolling, if you can't get the right stats now because you are poor you probably shouldn't even be trying to roll for a perfect weapon anyway

[pale plover]

I rolled so much I used 200,000 currency with no sword with warp res dump

[celest valve]

Please, never try and even consider finesse to ever be a dumpstat on anything for a psyker. Ever.

[nocturne dust]

300k is my average for getting the dump I want

[polar crypt]

that means you probably had something like 50k and then the event gave you like 200k

[silver echo]

for any class lol

[nocturne dust]

but that's average

[silver echo]

finesse is attack speed everything wants more of it

[polar crypt]

if you absolutely have to have the weapon now buy it from melk or just a crappy leveller from the store

and don't bring it to havoc

[pale plover]

I haven't finished the event yet

That was money leftover

[last kayak]

What's the recommended perks and blessings on the greatsword?

[ornate hamlet]

Honestly the game is like Vermintide in the sense that once you've mastered the "mechanics" of the game you don't need to run meta or anything. It just makes it faster.

It's probably why my skill tree is built like ass but I'm doing fine

[lone ravine]

wrath + personal choice for blessings, and I believe flak and unyield/carapace? for perks

[last kayak]

Blessings

🙏

Gonna go shred for now for the personal choice one

[lone ravine]

just a quick fyi if you dont know for shred

same with wrath its on chained hit

[last kayak]

Yeah I know

[celest valve]

hmmm. heavy swings wit hthe special do more damage than light swings. like... possibly up to double damage?

[ornate hamlet]

also send me the deets I wanna know what most melee psykers are takin'

[lone ravine]

as far as ive heard the beam from special isnt affected by light or heavy attack, only the charge amount from the 2 bars

[polar crypt]

not true if you run absolute garbage items and talents you're gonna do poorly and drag your team down because they have to compensate and play harder

[restive nymph]

dude thats cheeks

[polar crypt]

this is why shredder is bad. you spend like 10% of your total ammo just to kill one gunner or something, so it's like if you ever pick up a big ammo that's one less for the vet with the plasma or whatever

[nocturne dust]

says the man running bubble in havoc

[round coyote]

What’s the current perk blessing setup for trauma?

[ornate hamlet]

Don't use it against a horde of gunners is really the only thing with it

Melts the hell out of it

[nocturne dust]

This is a typical auric meleeker. I don't see Havoc meleekers.

[ornate hamlet]

Thanks, you sassy man you.

[hoary badge]

It's only been a week

[nocturne dust]

Well, you're still kinda low, don't worry. I think your opinion may change.

[patent mango]

why do they never take periloussss

[agile mural]

is the 10% rending above 75% talent still borked?

[nocturne dust]

Because it's 5% total damage when it's alone

[prime elk]

Because it’s not good as the only source of soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

which is nice

[patent mango]

its so good thoo

[nocturne dust]

but not that great

[nocturne dust]

Most of the damage is wasted

similar issue of soulblaze on sword

[vapid sparrow]

is my staff meant to be my primary source of damage?

[nocturne dust]

You still have to hit them the same number of times

[clear heath]

yeah perilous isn't doing that much if it's the only soulblaze source

5% in my runs as well

[nocturne dust]

even if that 5% was 100% useful (it's mostly wasted), it would still be kinda droppable

[ornate hamlet]

We've made it 33 and the person that told me it gets harder at 21 was definitely right but

it's alright?

[round coyote]

Should I do fire trauma or flurry trauma?

(Warp unbound was exchanged for kinetic Flayer)

[ornate hamlet]

Bubble is nice to keep bombs, flames, and extras out.

[vapid sparrow]

I dont get psyker

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ Depends what you and your team is running

[hoary badge]

Smite and Assail can be used as primary weapons if built properly

[patent mango]

bubble meta

[nocturne dust]

Step 1: Do damage
Step 2: Avoid damage

done

[vapid sparrow]

well in my experience every other class has been doing way better at that so im clearly missing a step

[nocturne dust]

Well yes

Psyker is terrible at surviving

[vapid sparrow]

not doing much damage either

[nocturne dust]

All his defenses are reactive

[vapid sparrow]

assail was alright for horde clear but so is a sword so

[lone ravine]

Don’t forget step 3: perils of the warp

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide Here, have a typical auric build

[strong gulch]

Also map and director rng.

We've had 23s and 24s seems cursed af and later difficulties seem way tame in comparison.

[clear heath]

27 with pox gas felt worse than 30 without

[muted grove]

What’s the Dump stat for the deimos blaze sword? And for the inferno force staff

[hoary badge]

Does a sword nullify 80% of shooter packs

[nocturne dust]

yeh, gas is such a pain on Havoc when combined with blight

[strong gulch]

warp resist

[clear heath]

yeah blight was there too

cancer

[lone ravine]

Warp resist both

[nocturne dust]

warp res and warp res

[muted grove]

Hell yeah Ty

[cosmic sigil]

did you also have people not using their blitz or ult that much?

[thin finch]

cooking the worst psyker build known to man

[cosmic sigil]

i had a zealot not using immonades once,,, i even told him i had field improv

[nocturne dust]

I think the main issue was we had only psykers

[strong gulch]

We were using all of the thing. Well... except me the FGS sword special. I will never remember.

[vapid sparrow]

So, to tldr
I should be relying on my staff ?

[cosmic sigil]

warp shenanigans

[nocturne dust]

Uh, for a staff build

[lone ravine]

Give me the zealot “dog lover” build where it’s all just stacking hp and corruption resist + BoP so he can survive forever while getting nommed on

[nocturne dust]

Gunker also exists tho

[strong gulch]

oh true lol

[clear heath]

the 4 psyker runs were funny

[vapid sparrow]

mk, was under the impression the spells were the focus of psyker

[clear heath]

we kept bubbling at the same time lmao

[cosmic sigil]

i have the same problem; oh what is that bar in the middle of my screen?

[nocturne dust]

Blitzes are generally side weapons for specific purposes

Abilities are spammed though, yes

[clear heath]

the 3 bubble psykers sharing the same brain cell and placing them at the same place

[prime elk]

lol back when people used assail as primary

[nocturne dust]

😭

[nocturne dust]

they still do that on lower difficulties

[strong gulch]

orange cats I swear

[prime elk]

Makes sense

[lone ravine]

Psykers are all just a hivemind

We call ourselves siblings because it’s one giant single braincelled family

[nocturne dust]

It's true, I would know because this is all a dream and you're all a part of my dream

[lone ravine]

But no? I’m dreaming and you’re part of my dream.

[nocturne dust]

I would dream something like that, wouldn't I?

https://tenor.com/view/spin-gif-4943949

[lone ravine]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1288701442122846322.gif?quality=lossless&name=Biruta&size=128

[celest valve]

hmm. t he weapon special damage differences seem to be on the weapon hit. Like actually hitting them with the weapon.

hitting with the sword does excessively high damage, more so tha nyou would expect btw

if special is activated

ok wow also the finesse stat seems to affect... a lot of things.

also dang i can hit that dude all the way over there that is huge range

[lone ravine]

The special can go through walls btw

Very nice for when you have no shriek and someone got dogged

[lyric prism]

do any of the psyker 2H swords replace any of the 1H ones in any fashion?
I just ask to get general consensus in on 2H vs 1H

[patent mango]

i dont think im using 1h again this is too fun

[nocturne dust]

Illisi is generally replaced by FGS, unless you specifically want good dodges

[muted grove]

Holy moly brainpop fire build is so fun

[agile mural]

sigh penetration of the soul is still broken

😔

[polar crypt]

spoilers you want good dodges

[nocturne dust]

Deimos isn't entirely replaced and is a much more defensive/safer version of the mk6

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

Not really.

[patent mango]

eh

they good enough

[nocturne dust]

Illisi imo just gets replaced. Dodges alone are whatever.

You can dodge in place and still be fine

[lyric prism]

but deimos still king for single target?

[patent mango]

neutral dodge

[nocturne dust]

Yes because it has uncanny and knockdown on h2

[lyric prism]

kinda hoped all 2H would replace 1H damage and block wise but the 1H would beat them everywhere else

[nocturne dust]

although the mk6 isn't bad at all

mk6 can still eat a crusher in 3 hits

and that's without any buffs

[clear heath]

the 2h force swords are also pretty nice for dealing with bosses on staff builds that would otherwise suck at them

[agile mural]

is it? found the 2h force sword underwhelming for boss dps

[clear heath]

not beating a gun but the swords don't need ammo

just spam heavies on the mk6

[sick sparrow]

how do i get warp charges and what do they look like?

[clear heath]

need warp siphon keystone for them

it'll be on your buff bar

bottom left keystone

[lyric prism]

so ... whats exactly every 2H variant?

[agile mural]

feels slower then dueling

[sick sparrow]

how get that

[clear heath]

talent tree

[sick sparrow]

ah

[lone ravine]

very bottom left purple node

[nocturne dust]

mk6 and mk8, mk6 is elite killer, mk8 is horde killer. mk6 is harder to use but better with enough skill imo.

[agile mural]

maybe igot the wrong blessings for the 2h, what would u use for pure boss killing

[sick sparrow]

so i need that to complete "warp battery"?

[lone ravine]

yea

[clear heath]

I dont think it beats dueling sword in single target, but the thing is fgs can do that while also being good at other things

[lyric prism]

thanks 🙂

[sick sparrow]

some bs

[lone ravine]

a penance for using a keystone is bs?

[nocturne dust]

The dueling sword is extremely OP, if FGS could beat it in single target it would be even more OP

[spice veldt]

uncanny strike slaughterer fgs

40% headtaker fgs

[nocturne dust]

[spice veldt]

brutal momentum fgs

[agile mural]

ah, so just dueling sword still for boss killing

[thorn cedar]

baked in brutal momentum

[agile mural]

sigh but aight

[clear heath]

Like it's the fact that it's one of our better single target weapons, while also being able to do this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/922136978865156168/1314098608467083335/force_cleave_killfeed.mp4?ex=6755d4f3&is=67548373&hm=83c31aceefa36833f98c631397624e2eee349238436ddba3307fafafa47966f3&

[spice veldt]

guh

the subtle 2268 damage on the bulwark

[patent mango]

i honestly never thought the force gs was gonna be this peak

[nocturne dust]

overrated

[lone ravine]

i just use FGS for attacking through walls lmao

im a staff psyker