psyker-class

[main wyvern]

all i have is fgs and deimos

[late sapphire]

fgs

[nocturne dust]

Illisi was popular before FGS

[wind spruce]

Run fgs then

[late sapphire]

its a bit slow so maybe go laspistol ranged

[wind spruce]

Illisi on gunker OR meleeker hurts my soul

[late sapphire]

swap to laspistol to run

[nocturne dust]

imagine if FGS was faster than knife

[late sapphire]

that would be very great

sword

[wind spruce]

Unless you're running revolver or BB you're just deciding not to have carapace damage

[main wyvern]

so you run the burn blessing on the lasgun?

[late sapphire]

illisi isn't terrible

[plucky flax]

Nearly 1 mil damage most melee damage big sword

[late sapphire]

yeah infernus is best in slot

[wind spruce]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d3473c2-2875-40d5-b931-a40973eea02e/burn-gunker-2

This is my recon gunker build

[late sapphire]

slightly more melee damage than the zealot has total damage

what was he even doing

[plucky flax]

He was a choir boi.

More time chanting than fighting.

[late sapphire]

hallelujah 🙏

[main wyvern]

it feels wrong not using a staff

i feel dirty

[strong gulch]

@lethal lagoon It's no 220 200, but toughness and hp being the same is pretty sweet.

[wind spruce]

But force greatsword bad

[plucky flax]

Who said that?

[wind spruce]

Just a few chatters

[plucky flax]

It's good (not as op as ds4 of course) but it's so cool.

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

And probably atlas

[lethal lagoon]

How dare you.

[late sapphire]

if it was then it'd be called force badsword

think about that

[wind spruce]

Exist? I can only apologise.

Or kms

[wind spruce]

You've got me there

[unique mist]

anyone know why the force greatsword's push attack costs peril?

[strong gulch]

I don't like how slow the FGS is but it also does everything.

[late sapphire]

all force sword patks cost peril

[unique mist]

oh damn

[wind spruce]

They've always cost peril on force swords

[late sapphire]

you are doing a force push with psykinetics

[unique mist]

i must have never noticed with the blaze force swords

[late sapphire]

The push (!) doesn't

[urban sandal]

so you can accidentally use it and blow yourself up

[late sapphire]

Only the push attack

[wind spruce]

Although it doesn't cost peril when u miss now

Dunno when that changed

[lethal lagoon]

How do you accidentally use a push attack?

I struggle to do them on purpose

[wind spruce]

I haven't been using force swords for months

Because I don't like bad weapons

[strong gulch]

If force sword PA connects with an enemy it costs peril. Otherwise it won't cost peril.

[unique mist]

i never noticed lol

[nocturne dust]

hold button

[strong gulch]

I do all of the time.

[nocturne dust]

[unique mist]

it's probably going to blow me up with this scriers build

[plucky flax]

But can other melee weapons turn enemies to goop like this?

[unique mist]

i'm trying to get used to using combos instead of just m1 spam

[dapper shadow]

cant believe left click build psyker works in havoc too

left click psyker best build

[strong gulch]

Accidental PA on a burster with KF up.

[late sapphire]

i wish i had ragdolls

[nocturne dust]

Yes, they call it the 'Inferno staff'. It's a melee weapon in your secondary slot.

[unique mist]

so i'm trying to do the push->light->heavy combo on the mk6

[lethal lagoon]

The issue is more multiple push attacks

[unique mist]

for the vanguard/sweep heavy attack

[lethal lagoon]

It just messes with my brain

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/slime-goo-gif-20004555

[unique mist]

was trying to do push->patk->light->heavy and the peril gen was hurting my brain lol

[late sapphire]

you get it from the push too

no need to shove (patk)

[unique mist]

yeah but the patk

its cool

[plucky flax]

Doggie!!

[unique mist]

and sometimes my brain hurty too much in combat to make decisions between patk and non patk

[unique mist]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-22052184

[plucky flax]

Just light spam.

[late sapphire]

Playing psyker feels just like drinking the brain hurty juice 😔

[lethal lagoon]

How you running gunker in havoc

I feel like I'm instantly out of ammo

[wind spruce]

The goop does make the warp slice extra satisfying

I like that it's away from me

[strong gulch]

"That looked fun sibling. Did it hurt your brain?"

[wind spruce]

What how

[lethal lagoon]

Answer me warlock

[plucky flax]

It's only low havoc (23)

[wind spruce]

I wasnt finding that at all

[plucky flax]

I would not run gun over 31+ because bubbles in high demand.

[lethal lagoon]

I've long had this theory, that if you run extra psyker, less ammo spawns.

Maybe it's confirmed.

[lethal lagoon]

Just bring along 2 bubble psykers

[wind spruce]

Just run gunker with shield

[strong gulch]

Bubble trail

[plucky flax]

Yeah if there are 2 bubbles then you are free to do whatever as 3rd psyker.

[wind spruce]

Atheneum has suggested that for a long time

[plucky flax]

I did gun with bubble in havoc 24.

But it was meh. I only did because teammates were really bad and couldn't live without bubbles.

[nocturne dust]

Me

[late sapphire]

What if bubble nerf

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

Sub 30 you don't need bubble yet tbh.

With emperor light 1.

[nocturne dust]

I'll cry

no bubble nerf plz

[plucky flax]

Let people learn how to deal with shooters.

[nocturne dust]

You don't need it but it makes it a lot easier

[wind spruce]

I really don't like that I'm pigeonholed into bubble at all

[summer prairie]

4x psykinetic surge with shriek in high havoc might be fun due to the elite density, just have to be a bit careful

[nocturne dust]

You can still get blasted by a shotgun regardless

[wind spruce]

You might aswell just run a bubble though

[late sapphire]

just dodge

[summer prairie]

but the point is not to

[nocturne dust]

If I never got hit I wouldn't run bubble, true

but that's a big if

[plucky flax]

Me when ppl ask for bubble sub 31

[nocturne dust]

It's okay, I bring the bubble

[wind spruce]

Then run quad EP smite so you can trigger PC more

[nocturne dust]

It is my beloved

[lethal lagoon]

I was out of ammo for like 50% of a hacov game.

[plucky flax]

Are you not using assails?

[lethal lagoon]

And I was the only one grabbing ammo

Yes.

[plucky flax]

You like shooting gun.

[nocturne dust]

I mean

[wind spruce]

What level? I was using fuck all ammo and still topping damage

[nocturne dust]

I've seen how Atlas uses ammo

[wind spruce]

Don't fully kill stuff. Spray and burn spray and burn

Also columnus bad

[plucky flax]

If you play gun psyker like a vet then yeeah rip ammo

[lethal lagoon]

[bitter escarp]

want to start using laspistol on fgs melee psyker, but it's kinda pointless without the full auto mod

[muted grove]

What was that awesome surge staff/ head burst build

[wind spruce]

Impressive

[summer prairie]

incredibly low damage for that run

[nocturne dust]

It's also just spraying into enemies that are about to die from staffkers anyway and stealing their kills

[plucky flax]

Havoc 36 but there are no enemies

[summer prairie]

look at elite counts too

or disablers i guess

oh

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-meditate-zen-spongebob-gif-5626530

[plucky flax]

[wind spruce]

I love that the scoreboard link was pointless

[late sapphire]

@plucky flax are you excited for your havoc 40 weekly reward of 4000 diamantine?

[nocturne dust]

4000 diamantine?

[wind spruce]

Ah right haha

[plucky flax]

I would trade 50k diamantine for 50 assists.

[clear heath]

I didn't even know what the rewards are

[nocturne dust]

Everyone knows Diamantine is forever, assists are temporary

[clear heath]

fatshark should really make the rewards more clear than this

[summer prairie]

so like is the weekly reward based on how many chests you get or the highest cleared

[bitter escarp]

looks like it's from darkest dungeon

[clear heath]

ah yes i love recieving an unknown amount of dia plasteel and ordo

[wet belfry]

We will get our rewards next week

[summer prairie]

it's not going to be 4000 if it's 100 per chest

[late sapphire]

pretty sure you don't actually 'get chests'

I think it's just based on the highest tier

[summer prairie]

4000 diamantine weekly for clearing one havoc 40 is a lot too

[wind spruce]

I was doing a havoc 26 on Thursday (RIP being away two days after the update) and I out damaged a zealot who used 490 ammo compared to my 230

Idk how u even use that much ammo

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Fucking bolter magdumping

And he still did fuck all ranged damage

[bitter escarp]

inshallah school of marksmanship

[nocturne dust]

I was running boss killer zealot earlier and bolter magdumping

[bitter escarp]

zealot gets that tiny hipfire reticle post dodge too

[nocturne dust]

I wasn't doing it enough because I kept leaving ammo behind 😭

[wind spruce]

The mf was taking all my kills, too. I'd load things up with burn and he'd mag dump every single melee elite. Like every single fucking one. It was so unnecessary.

Stealing my goddamn PC and PA

[clear heath]

so what actually are the havoc rewards?

[bitter escarp]

I feel like with the new players, the zealots are the most likely to be cluelessly antisocial

[wind spruce]

I heard cosmetics

[clear heath]

What's the weekly chest?

[bitter escarp]

you basically don't have to care very much about what other people are doing

[clear heath]

like how many dockets can i get from havoc 40?

[wind spruce]

Tbf I play exactly like that most games

[late sapphire]

and old zealots are cluefully antisocial

[bitter escarp]

vets probably should, they keep getting their asses beat by random poxers

so do psykers, except it's one poxer not two

[main wyvern]

is this a good fgs/lasgun talent setup

[plucky flax]

No assails with dd 1/10

I mean unless you want to play meme melee only.

[main wyvern]

i have never used assail before

not even in the meat grinder

[late sapphire]

i love watching helbore melee vets die to a single groaner

[bitter escarp]

that last point in DD is a major QoL bump, and Malefic Momentum is pretty helpful too

[wind spruce]

This is my heavy sword gunker build

[plucky flax]

You throw funny rocks and you do damage.

[bitter escarp]

fix bayoneters

[plucky flax]

That is kind of cursed but not as cursed as my funny build.

[wind spruce]

It's based

KR + warp unbound goes hard

And you actually have sick boss dps (for a Psyker)

Rotate between burn and BB

Use like no ammo on it

[devout sluice]

There is this vid of guy who did 40 havoc saying purgatus staff is best has same cc as trauma but on lmb

Idk what to think of that

[summer prairie]

only with quell cancelling

[clear heath]

okay so like what's actually in this thing?

[devout sluice]

Yesterday i did 40 with my trauma soulblaze just fine over 1,3mil dmg

[clear heath]

Is it posted anywhere?

[main wyvern]

i imagine it's that

[clear heath]

wow

[devout sluice]

Can purgatus actually stagger ogryns or even do anything to bulwarks?

[lethal lagoon]

Did you pick the wrong BB talent?

[urban sandal]

not anymore

[wind spruce]

No. You actually use the BB. It's a heavy sword build so it needs it for crushers

[lethal lagoon]

Ohhhh warp unbound BB?

That's kinda interesting

[wind spruce]

Yes

It's fun

[mellow pendant]

my most fervent wish for this class is that you could take assail and psykinetic's aura

[clear heath]

sounds kinda cursed ngl

heavy sword psyker

[devout sluice]

Why do you wish for a pathing to the worst psyker aura?

[wind spruce]

It mulches everything but carapace

[lethal lagoon]

[mellow pendant]

the passive that reduces ability cd every specialist or elite kill

[wind spruce]

Thrust/headtaker

[bitter escarp]

not deathblow?

[wind spruce]

No

[clear heath]

just run illisi

[wind spruce]

Just run DS

[bitter escarp]

does psyker not hit those breakpoints

[devout sluice]

? It kills crushers tho, just as fast as deimos can

Unless you're using mk8

[wind spruce]

Heavy sword

Not greatsword

[lethal lagoon]

I did literally the same thing btw

[devout sluice]

Oh heavy sword

Not force sword

[lethal lagoon]

I thought you meant the force greatsword

[devout sluice]

Mb

[bitter escarp]

if only fgs had thrust and headtaker

[late sapphire]

hsword sucks so hard its actually kind of insane

[lethal lagoon]

^

Right

[late sapphire]

would be too powerful

[lethal lagoon]

So it makes sense we assumed he meant force greatsword

[wind spruce]

It can hit the bruiser breakpoints but Thrust is so good

[summer prairie]

it deserves thrust, the overhead is so satisfying to hold

[wind spruce]

Guaranteed one shots on ragers

[bitter escarp]

will have to give it a shot

[devout sluice]

Thrust is bait tbh

[main wyvern]

what is warp unbound

[wind spruce]

It's absolutely not

[clear heath]

Does it not already one shot ragers?

[wind spruce]

Not on Heavy sword

[fresh reef]

One of the animations where you just hold your pinky out is so kino

[late sapphire]

scriers gaze subnode

[bitter escarp]

think vet and zealot have an easier time clapping those ragers with deathblow

[devout sluice]

Never use thrust unless thunderhammer

[wind spruce]

No

[main wyvern]

does that mean you can't die for 10 sec from 100+ peril after scriers ends?

[clear heath]

yeah vet and zealot can one shot ragers already with HS

[bitter escarp]

cutting through 4 ragers at once was peak

[late sapphire]

yes

11.5s

except for about 0.1s right after sg ends because fuck you

[plucky flax]

Easiest set up I found so far for high havoc is 2 psykers bubble maxing. 1 Burga 1 rending trauma. 2 choir bois zealots for monsters damage and buffing psykers

[late sapphire]

rending trauma 😔

[plucky flax]

Just to get stuff done as pain free as possible

But all kinds of set up would work

[devout sluice]

Burga?

[bitter escarp]

burga king

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

Rending trauma was nice on the havoc I played with @split lance .

[plucky flax]

You grill some heretics it's so cooked

[late sapphire]

does rauma work vs pus hardened skin?

[devout sluice]

You mean brittleness

[plucky flax]

No I mean the burga staff

[main wyvern]

i am smite/venting shriek/surge staff am i doing it wrong

[summer prairie]

trauma at least isn't considered a ranged attack for some mechanics

[devout sluice]

American purgatus

[bitter escarp]

beetus staff

[devout sluice]

Venting shriek is almost useless in havoc

[clear heath]

wait trauma doesn't get screwed by the hardened skin?

[strong gulch]

Bubble burga + rending trauma

[plucky flax]

If it works for you keep going. I am just talking about easiest way to clear 35+

[summer prairie]

venting shriek is super strong in havoc

[devout sluice]

No

[main wyvern]

why

[summer prairie]

especially if you have a purg on your team so you can steal their sb

[strong gulch]

Right. We were wondering if the RMB was counted as ranged for the pus skin.

[devout sluice]

Because enemies have up to 3x health at 40

[main wyvern]

i have only done one havoc so i have no idea 🙂

[devout sluice]

And venting shriek no longer one shots a horde

[plucky flax]

If you have bubble psykers already you can be the damage with surge creeping flames

[devout sluice]

But just farts on them

[wind spruce]

Don't just run CF then?

[devout sluice]

Vs bubble you get range and specialist denial + regen

[plucky flax]

Pls no ego its team effort

[summer prairie]

just kidding

[devout sluice]

Or scriers for full dmg potential

[main wyvern]

last time i ran bubble i thought i had venting shriek on and overloaded myself

[plucky flax]

Let me introduce to you 1.4 Mil damage surge creeping flames spam havoc 37
https://youtu.be/nrpl8sNwtG4

[summer prairie]

I was looking at the elites/horde with 21+ stacks already and thinking why am I trying to use purg at that point

[plucky flax]

The key is psykenetic aura stacking

You spam it so much your throat is sored

[lethal lagoon]

you monitized

[devout sluice]

Bubble in thumbnail

[plucky flax]

Yeah I never said bubbles are not needed

[devout sluice]

Point stands if no1 would pick defensive ukts its troll

[plucky flax]

But you said creeping flames useless which is wrong

[devout sluice]

Had a game like that once

Only i had bubble and it was charge ogrun stance vet and charge zealot

Not only we all die to gunners they were ignoring the second bubble disappears

[main wyvern]

am i cheating if i use the danger zone mod

[plucky flax]

Somehow people subscribe to really bad psyker

[devout sluice]

They woukdnt res

[lethal lagoon]

[devout sluice]

I straight up dodged that team after 3rd fuckup

[lethal lagoon]

after 3rd fuckup

Most patient gamer.

[devout sluice]

I am patient yes

[wind spruce]

I did the old leave the strike team and invite back the two players I wanted to stay with the other day

[devout sluice]

Lmao based

[wind spruce]

Old mate was yapping on about how he wasn't performing well but wouldn't take his own hints and leave

[devout sluice]

My 40 havoc team had one lowball

But i felt too bad to call him out to leave

And we were pulking the lack of dmg anyway

He would just perma smite

And have 0 survival instinct

68k dmg after 40 min mission xd

[wind spruce]

I would've taken perma smite over this guy going down 9 times or something over 3/4 of a mission

[devout sluice]

For lackluster cc of 1/10 of what we actually fighting

[wind spruce]

WHAT

[devout sluice]

Yep

[wind spruce]

That's genuinely impressive

[devout sluice]

He never used staff

We go me and dawri over mil

2nd zealot 600k at least

And this guy

Had to be new

[summer prairie]

even permasmiting one poxwalker is more dps than 68k in 40 minutes

[devout sluice]

And wild to try this but we managed

[wind spruce]

Like how do you create so much space that you smite all game and don't crack 70k damage haha

[summer prairie]

(if it had infinite health)

[devout sluice]

Idk man i can send scoreboard when im back home in 12 hours xd

[wind spruce]

He's just smiting at the walls

[plucky flax]

This is it

[devout sluice]

But yeah

[wind spruce]

Don't smite the walls

[devout sluice]

Can purgatus genuienly cc crushers/bulwarks

[wind spruce]

They're always supportive

[devout sluice]

Or is it made up fact

By vet player

I switched from playing ourg or voidstrike to trauma cuz it does both cc dmg and even soulblaze on a gimmick

I saw the dmg amp with new blessing on purgatus but what do if bulwark walks up or 10 crushers

[plucky flax]

I'd play blaze trauma if I'm the only psyker

[devout sluice]

I see

[wind spruce]

Does 40 feel significantly harder than 36

[devout sluice]

Yes

But honestly modifiers > dofficulity scaling

[wind spruce]

Yeah I figured. What levels do fading light go up

[devout sluice]

Hardest mission for me was literally 35 cuz it had the gas farts with increased globadiers

We died 39 times on succesful attempt

Failed nission thrice

[clear heath]

pox gas is the worst thing to exist

[wind spruce]

39 times lmao

That's insane

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma ignores blight, unironically, give nexus flurry or flurry rending a try.

[summer prairie]

not much difference between 36 and 40, it's more mission variance

monsters/specials/elites get a bit more hp and hordes spawn a bit more frequently

[clear heath]

first time I did havoc above 20 was when agent brought me into that 27 pox gas run and it made me think havoc was a lot harder than it is

[plucky flax]

Nah from like 32 up its the same just tankier but good teammates can do damage so it's just the players

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like stuff dies too fast

so that sounds nice

[upbeat kestrel]

hey people a question. to do the ,keep max stacks of warp siphon for 120 secs,, is easy or rather hard when playing solo?

[plucky flax]

I play rending flurry if there's a burga guy on team

[lethal lagoon]

easy to do on auric.

[devout sluice]

You meant a bit more all the time and 6 bosses at once at certain point

[lethal lagoon]

[upbeat kestrel]

ok thanls

[plucky flax]

6 bosses?

[plucky flax]

At once?

[summer prairie]

that's just variance

[lethal lagoon]

Also, just in case, obviously you can't use skills for 120 seconds either.

[devout sluice]

Kill elites, not much to do with you playing online or solo

[lethal lagoon]

I think a couple people messed that up back when it was longer lmao

[wind spruce]

Does fading light or whatever the modifier that changes ranged enemies and toughness is called go up to 4?

[upbeat kestrel]

i know read the description

[summer prairie]

fading light is only 2 ranks

[wind spruce]

Ohhh

[clear heath]

got my 40 warp res fgs

[lethal lagoon]

Special havoc event, Fading Light(5), mostly ranged enemies.

[plucky flax]

That is pog

[devout sluice]

Chaos sword

[wind spruce]

How much peril does that give

[plucky flax]

Oh no a mk8 user

[wind spruce]

Burn them

[upbeat kestrel]

so take scriers gaze and a gun, go ham yes?

[plucky flax]

It's okay the guide said mk8 is superior

[lethal lagoon]

[devout sluice]

Scriers gaze is an ability

[plucky flax]

So it's tru and real

[lethal lagoon]

What

did

I

just

say

[devout sluice]

That would expend your stacks

[wind spruce]

Classic lmfao

[upbeat kestrel]

ok thanks for advice have a great day

[wind spruce]

I heard battery gunner is ideal for havoc

[lethal lagoon]

You too mate

[devout sluice]

Is mk8 better at anything tho?

Mk6 has good hordeclear combos already

[lethal lagoon]

mk8 is better at pretending to be a big illy

[wind spruce]

Marginally better swings for horde

[vestal fulcrum]

I greatly dislike the 8

[strong gulch]

Almost twining

[plucky flax]

No it's move set preference. You can do bigger single hit damage with mk8

[wind spruce]

Emphasis on marginally

[plucky flax]

But I would not say 1 is better than the other.

[lethal lagoon]

"Almost twinning" while showing them up, smh, my favorite type of backhanded compliment.

[wind spruce]

It's GROSS

[plucky flax]

I and syllo use mk6

[late sapphire]

i wonder when they will fix this

[devout sluice]

? How when mk6 stab goes beyond what deimos can do

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

I love having to push attack between each stab

[late sapphire]

wow for some reason that screenshot only has about 30 pixels

[lime jewel]

does anyone know if the force greatsword special attack counts as warp damage? like do the warp damage nodes affect it?

[plucky flax]

Push attack the heavy on mk8 has more damage than heavy 2 stab on mk6

[wind spruce]

Yes

[plucky flax]

But you can't keep chaining it

[lethal lagoon]

special from any force sword is warp, yes.

[devout sluice]

Yes

[devout sluice]

Oh, will see for myself then wth

[plucky flax]

Also I play at 100% peril. I tried mk8 3 times and blew up every map. Never again

[lime jewel]

cool ty!! guess i should stack those warp dmg nodes

[compact cargo]

Scrier

[lethal lagoon]

No, he's just crazy for fun.

[plucky flax]

Bistol creeping flames big sword is my jam

[wind spruce]

The mk8 stab is like 15% more damage, it's not worth the impact on your rotation imo

[clear heath]

I use MK6 normally. I just didn't swap the sword mark yet

[plucky flax]

You might prefer it tbh

[wind spruce]

Don't you try and backtrack now

You have been marked.

[clear heath]

MK8 doesn't flow well for when I'm swapping between surge and GS, which i'm trying to do more

[plucky flax]

I just prefer 6 and I would not say there's a definite 'better' variant

[lethal lagoon]

Diplomacy

[clear heath]

Stunning the enemy with the staff and then pushing attacking them is a redundant combo

[fiery stratus]

Greatswords too slow

[wind spruce]

Gross, huh

[devout sluice]

Impatient

[wind spruce]

RECON

[fiery stratus]

Feels like you're walking in mud up to your knees

[lethal lagoon]

You never enjoyed dashing through 2 feet of snow as a child?

smh

[devout sluice]

You are

[clear heath]

If I was doing like a scriers gunspyker build, I might prefer MK8, but i'm using this thing with zap staff

[wind spruce]

Most Australians have never seen snow

[lethal lagoon]

The slow makes it better

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-reece-simpson-kayode-ewumi-roll-safe-meme-gif-17305682

[strong gulch]

Walk through mud sucks. Squishing it between my toes or playing in it is fun tho.

[clear heath]

Could probably get some crazy one shot breakpoints on scriers mk8

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

You still wanna rotate in assails a lot though

[lethal lagoon]

You don't get snow on your southern tips?

[wind spruce]

And recon for quick burn application

[clear heath]

yeah true, but it's at least less redundant than a stun into a stagger

[wind spruce]

No snow at sea level at all

[clear heath]

assail isnt a stun tool mostly

[fiery stratus]

FGS feels like how movies portray greatswords, weighing 50 pounds.

[wind spruce]

Only on mountains

[fiery stratus]

But really they're about 10 at max

[wind spruce]

(As it should be)

[plucky flax]

It's a big sword not a 2 handed long sword

[lethal lagoon]

Shoveling snow is like a zen garden, you'd never understand

[plucky flax]

Also we have noodles arms

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Make psykers go to the gym!

[wind spruce]

It has huge utility in staggering ragers and specials

[lethal lagoon]

If they released a Knight Psyker set right now, it would probably be the best selling set.

[wind spruce]

Also no snow days 😦

[fiery stratus]

You can look up the weight for a real life zweihander, I don't think they're much bigger than that.

[wind spruce]

Just have to get on our kangaroos and head to school

[plucky flax]

Sword made from plasteels is heavier than normal steel

[lethal lagoon]

^

Actually, PVC and the like deck replacements are heavier than the wooden versions.

Plastic is not light

[plucky flax]

You need the oomph to cut through heretics

[lethal lagoon]

[fiery stratus]

Eh

[lethal lagoon]

Physics be damned, because we are psykers

and refuse to go flying with every swing

[clear heath]

The warp is just that heavy

[fiery stratus]

You'd think something that has a level of psychic ability would take less effort for that

[wind spruce]

In general, yes. Compared to the mk6? That 15% difference damage on the stab is insignificant and impossible to calculate on the fly

[lethal lagoon]

"Impossible to calculate on the fly"

[wind spruce]

Mf you don't even know how to use melee

So you don't need to worry about it

[lethal lagoon]

"You don't even know how to use melee"

[clear heath]

tbh i don't even like fgs that much on a scriers build

prefer illisi for that

[plucky flax]

Illisi with buffed dodge

[lethal lagoon]

Watching you mostly melee during the two runs we did was entertaining.

[plucky flax]

Now we just need infinite dodges back too

[wind spruce]

I'd rather shelve a pinecone

[lethal lagoon]

Psyker with greatsword is just amazing lmao.

[clear heath]

Yeah i'm really liking the sword in general

[wind spruce]

Psyker is a melee class

[fiery stratus]

FGS just need more mobility tbh

Too slow too cumbersome

[radiant frigate]

hell yeah

[wind spruce]

RECON!

[lethal lagoon]

I really the moveset

they really went hard on it

[radiant frigate]

i also really the moveset

[wind spruce]

I really it too

[lethal lagoon]

(fatshark please make an RPG with this combat system, okay thanks)

[clear heath]

I've always liked the idea of mixing magic and melee
But before the fgs, it was either go full caster with a staff or go full melee with scriers.
Now i have a good melee that doesn't need scriers

[fiery stratus]

Yeah but I can't always pull my gun out to run 15 feet to the next thing to kill

[lethal lagoon]

Unironically, you could build an entire game around just the greatsword

I fucking love that thing

[radiant frigate]

greatsword so fun that i forget to use the rest of the class

[clear heath]

and I can feel myself getting better at remembering to use both my staff and sword as I play with it

[radiant frigate]

only bonk

[lethal lagoon]

Gandalf

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's not the best minmax melee but it's good enough to be played at end game and just so fun to use. We play for fun right

[radiant frigate]

play for bonk

[wind spruce]

I intensely enjoy assail scriers recon with battle med, crack of bone, tranquillity and warp unbound. Your peril is just bouncing all the fuck around the place whatever you're doing. Can spam assail all day and still use scriers on cooldown effectively.

[unreal wasp]

Real, will go some matches where all I really use my staff for is trappers

[wind spruce]

Why not

It's instant draw in terms of movement

And melees are instant draw

[main wyvern]

i have never used assail before do you mash left clicks or charge it up

[fiery stratus]

because my biggest issue is the tight interactions with melee, and once you dodge a couple times its like you're crawling

[wind spruce]

Mash babbbby

[plucky flax]

Just don't dodge and bonk things

(Die to overhead)

[fiery stratus]

@main wyvern good for dumping at gunner groups, ragers, trash if you need. You dont need to aim with it a ton unless you want to hit specials at distance. Really good for close general utility though.

[late sapphire]

i am feeling the bubble need

[plucky flax]

What lvl now?

[late sapphire]

21 with the worst pubs i have ever seen 😔

but a single shooter while i was ressing took out the entire toughness in one volley...

[plucky flax]

Hmmm rip

[late sapphire]

Haven't been playing recently

[wind spruce]

I can't wait until I can play again, hit 30+, determine bubble isn't necessary and that I am once and for all the true God psyker

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/minigun-turret-gun-machine-gun-gif-13196770

gunners fw

[sterile grove]

which blaze force shall i use my fellow psykers

[late sapphire]

force greatsword

[sterile grove]

covenant or deimos...

[late sapphire]

best blaze force sword? force greatsword
best staff? force greatsword
best gun? believe it or not, force greatsword

[plucky flax]

Big sword

[wind spruce]

Does fgs have covenant in its name

[plucky flax]

Ye

[bitter escarp]

biomancer psyker when

swoleker

[radiant frigate]

covenant mk (VI/VIII) blaze force greatsword

[plucky flax]

Pog

[wind spruce]

Never has this react been more appropriate

[plucky flax]

Man is the emprah himself. Casting magic with 1 hand swinging big flaming sword with other

When block with force sword you should continously channel flame with left hand

[bitter escarp]

fire aura: enemies in coherency radius pick up soulblaze stacks every x seconds

pyromancy and biomancy pls

[late sapphire]

1 stack per second pls

[fiery stratus]

Wait

Doesn't deimos consistently 2 shot crushers

seems better than fgs and faster

cant clear as many mixed horde things as easily granted

[bitter escarp]

the difference is that you don't get the rooster juice flowing with deimos

[wind spruce]

It's better at killing crushers, yeah

Bc uncanny

[bitter escarp]

fgs is no slouch though

[fiery stratus]

seems like its just better in most ways except clear and dense mixed horde

[radiant frigate]

deimos also does really well vs bulwark

however, and i cannot stress this enough

big sword

[fiery stratus]

i wish big sword didnt feel like it weighed 70 pounds

[radiant frigate]

it doesn't though

[wind spruce]

They are pretty comparable into unyielding I think

[radiant frigate]

it's really smooth and nimble

[fiery stratus]

it feels so sluggish even vs the illisi

[wind spruce]

So deimos has mobility advantage and carapace advantage

That's it

[bitter escarp]

there's a sense of weight to the FGS, but I'd argue it's that the Illisi and Deimos feel too light

[fiery stratus]

illisi makes sense, its about accurate for a greatsword size and movement imo

[bitter escarp]

Deimos is a fucking spade of a sword

[fiery stratus]

well

smaller twohander

[bitter escarp]

yeah was gonna say, illisi is no greatsword

[fiery stratus]

but something that size irl is gonna be like 4 pounds

[strong gulch]

FGS feels sluggish to me too, but it's less fussy for me than Deimos. FGS is also better at hordes.

For better or worse, Deimos has the knock down on the H2 and FGS doesn't.

[bitter escarp]

greatswords wield you almost as much as you wield them, can't stop cuts trivially

just keep it flowing and moving

[rigid sky]

Also spooky stab feels super brutal when you wanna style on a heretical bastard

[modern gull]

greetings siblings, ive been using the force greatsword a bit now and i honestly kinda like it

[bitter escarp]

look up montante and spadone if you want to see assalti/rules/kata on youtube

[modern gull]

although im lost as to what blessings to go with

[strong gulch]

So are we. Blessing have been kinda a blood bath.

Thing I know that I'm doing is butting deflector on it in havoc.

[modern gull]

also what mark of it do yall prefer?

[strong gulch]

Mostly the 6. Much fewer prefer the 8.

[bitter escarp]

everyone seems fanatic about whatever mark they stan

which is probably a good thing

[strong gulch]

A lot of people use wrath + riposte / defector / precog (mostly zealot mains) or riposte + shred for crit maxxing.

[plucky flax]

Illisi has buff dodge now. Its as fast as deimos

[fiery stratus]

T

[strong gulch]

REALLY? neat

[fiery stratus]

That means theres even less of an excuse for the slow mobility

[plucky flax]

I use deflector shred for funny sub 30 havoc assists

I think keep 4 dodges but maybe a slight buff to dodge distances would be huge

[fiery stratus]

yes

the number is fine, but you move about 2 inches

[obtuse walrus]

Big ass sword for big horde clear

I use the Mk 8 because I like swinging as apposed to stabbing

And if I need to stab, I can just block push stab

[muted grove]

Anyone feel like explaining kinetic resonance? I’m confused

[obtuse walrus]

Press f. Brain burst quickly

Idk what else to say

Pairs well with venting shriek

Because I can set the horde on fire, and take out the gunners. Or use it against bosses. (combo it with a speed stim for extra funny)

[modern gull]

^

btw any tips for assail use?

[obtuse walrus]

I personally have no idea. I've used only brain burst for 2 years

[fiery stratus]

@modern gull

[radiant frigate]

press f and brain burst go fast

[tacit stump]

yes

[wind spruce]

Why shred though? For stacks against bosses?

[plucky flax]

Yeah for monsters damage mostly.

Also it stacks kind of fast in horde.

And my horde clear is push - light - heavy repeat.

[late sapphire]

Man havoc is so cheesy

[plucky flax]

So sometimes I don't get any riposte at all.

[wind spruce]

And I figure you're blazing most of the hordes anyway

[wind spruce]

Are you doing this for added safety

[plucky flax]

Im not sure it's just I find that way get you to the heavy diagonal faster.

For more horde clear.

And always mixing in assails of course.

So after swapping back from assails it's light light heavy.

[clear heath]

I've been using riposte unstable on my fgs
Trying to see if unstable + warp splitting can compensate for no wrath in havoc

[wind spruce]

That's what I'm getting at. Is it more horde clear to sacrifice two lights to slightly reduce the time the overall combo takes

[clear heath]

So far it's been working up to havoc 30

[wind spruce]

But idk how long the push takes compared to two lights

[clear heath]

but it takes way more effort cause if my peril drops, my cleave gets fucked

[plucky flax]

Maybe it's not faster but it's safer with the push.

[mental grail]

don't use it on cara, make sure to aim your shards to snipe targets

[plucky flax]

Also I still horde clear way more with assails anyway.

Shred is mostly more for monsters if I hit it from the back.

[mental grail]

peril usage is ~10% un-aimed and ~25% aimed

[late sapphire]

deflector is honestly kind of wasted with dome

[clear heath]

kinda, but i've seen situations where i wish I had it

I run out of dome to bonk something pretty often as well

[late sapphire]

i'm straight up edging my dome now

[clear heath]

listen I NEED to run out of dome to steal that crusher kill for the fgs souls

it's too satisfying to fill that bar

[radiant frigate]

FEED ME SOULS

[clear heath]

but yeah i don't run deflector either

[late sapphire]

this but with captain kills

really boss kills should fill the entire bar it would be so fun

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[tacit stump]

last hit on moster goes into overdrive mode for 30s

[late sapphire]

every special fully charged for 30s?

delectable

[tacit stump]

i mean you can spam special for 30s

would be funny

[late sapphire]

almost too great

[pulsar hazel]

Yeah that's why I still run Wrath. It's a safety net

[tacit stump]

but it has manny conditions

[pulsar hazel]

Same. I'd rather just kill whatever is shooting at us on Havoc which is why I haven't swapped off EK

[tacit stump]

th zealot steals monster last hit away

[pulsar hazel]

I wouldn't even be mad that they're doing their job. The average Zealot I've been getting on Havoc is absolute dog. Running DS4 and getting the least kills at best.

DS4 Zealots spending 2 minutes hitting flak horde like a wet noodle is so annoying just use a different melee please oh god

[tacit stump]

rushes in with rgs

[pulsar hazel]

I'd rather rgs atp since it's terrible mobility usually forces them to play tightly

[clear heath]

If they're running full support with chorus, i don't mind that they do like no damage
Although sometimes i get full support zealots that will also just sprint away from the team and die

[pulsar hazel]

or die

Ofc pub zealots just choose death

[clear heath]

Like why run a support build and then try to solo?

[pulsar hazel]

I only switch to Zealot for chorus + corruption aura when that modifier is present

[tacit stump]

goes assasin build with rgs or th

[pulsar hazel]

Stealth Zealot can be useful too for obj and revives

[wind spruce]

I wish max charge wouldn't drop off so quickly

[pulsar hazel]

Ofc average Zealot runs Fury and dies anyway

[wind spruce]

Feels like it's ready to go then when i actually need it for a horde 30s later I need more kills

[clear heath]

I've been seeing too many chorus zealots just run out of range from the entire team and die alone

[pulsar hazel]

I run stealth rgs sometimes but not for crutch or flanks just because it's super useful for preventing cascades

[marble crater]

Zealot DNA, what can you do

[pulsar hazel]

I kinda wish I saw more stealth and smoke nade Vets on Havoc because they'd actually come in very useful for obj

Yes unironically wish I saw more smokes

Havoc is so fascinating for mixing up the meta so much lmao

[clear heath]

havoc is the one place where I will accept smokes as a good option

[pulsar hazel]

Same

Havoc is making people run the "weakest" options for a lot of classes it's very interesting

[clear heath]

stealth vet is also fine but I'd still prefer VoC

[pulsar hazel]

Like taunt ogryn, bubble shield psyker, corruption heal aura zealot

[marble crater]

Weakest because they don't kill things and everyone enjoys killing things by themselves, but they also like winning compromise

[pulsar hazel]

Conventionally weakest because Auric is too easy to need this stuff

Now defensive turtle builds rock in Havoc

[clear heath]

Do you guys ever run havoc with some shitty random for several games and watch them adapt as the games get harder?

[pulsar hazel]

Really interesting mixup I enjoy

Yup lmao

[clear heath]

I had some really shitty zealot who was running fotf and they kept dying at first.
Then after a few games, they realized they were shit and were getting carried, switched to chorus and stuck to us like glue

character development

[pulsar hazel]

I saw this Zealot go from perfect strike evis, regular fury of the faithful build to corruption heal chorus

They still didn't fix that shitty evis tho

[strong gulch]

Not for when you wonder out of dome and a single little shooter can end your everything.

Or when the dome still looks up but has despawned.

[marble crater]

That was me in havoc 21 yesterday, one shooter deleted me because I didn't pay attention for a few seconds

Our ogryn had an awful life in that mission

[late sapphire]

instadied to a crusher overhead from full hp 😔

how did he do that

[fiery stratus]

Guys, I pulled off a big slice with the FGS special

[radiant frigate]

HELL YEAH

[wind spruce]

Very nice

[fiery stratus]

Also, look at this bullshit mutant grab

[wind spruce]

Also it's the same whether you heavy or light

[strong gulch]

All I got is this fun loading in splice.

[wind spruce]

I always light to get it out safely

[gleaming belfry]

uWu

[fiery stratus]

i'm calling imperium HR

[marble crater]

I think she would just shoot him

[tacit stump]

if not just stabbing him brutally

[late sapphire]

@plucky flax a crusher killed me from full hp why?

[marble crater]

Why not?

[tacit stump]

cause overhead

[late sapphire]

might have been some modifier that made it do corruption damage?

killed as in killed not downed, and it was an overhead yeah

[summer prairie]

I haven't paid much attention to it, but they do start dealing % more corruption melee damage. I guess overheads do so much damage it fully corrupts you

[clear heath]

Maybe it's this?

Does that just apply to any melee attack?

[marble crater]

That could do it

[clear heath]

Don't crushers do like 300 damage? 30% of that is kinda fucked up

and if that gets buffed by the melee buffs too...

[late sapphire]

half hp corruption is enough

ie about 100

[clear heath]

if these multiply the corruption...

[summer prairie]

I wonder if you can survive with one wound

[radiant frigate]

martyr meta coming soon

[wet cloak]

I've seen some builds using the FGS mainly and using a gun as ranged using soulstealer as a talent, isn't that a bit counterproductive?

You barely use a warp attack when using such a build.

[clear heath]

probably using assails?

[late sapphire]

it is very much unless they run assail

[marble crater]

Or they are just using the gun for movement speed, because the sword is pretty slow?

[wet cloak]

Most of the time if they have a guide/description they state they use the gun for the usual suspects: Gunners, Snipers etc.

Thank you for the feedback though. I am not the best at building my talents, so I tend to use premade ones.

[late sapphire]

question

if choir is pronounced quior

why isnt chorus pronounce quiorus

[marble crater]

Because English

[radiant frigate]

no i in chorus

[late sapphire]

quorus

[radiant frigate]

fucked up how choir isn't pronounced cho-ir

[late sapphire]

fucked up how chair isnt pronounced quiar

[radiant frigate]

quy-air

fucked up how speakers of the english language think german is complicated

and then they have shit like that

[marble crater]

Fucked up how Kansas and Arkansas are not pronounced even close to the same

[radiant frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z2mN8qEz7c

[marble crater]

She is right to be confused, because... why?!

[fiery stratus]

yeah fgs is too slow

forward momentum is so bad its pretty painful getting around

[late sapphire]

i am NOT FAT

[summer prairie]

This sounds goofy

[fiery stratus]

swapping weapons in a tight situation to push, then trying to gain forward momentum again is terrible

[marble crater]

Are you sure? You have Bratwurst in your name

[fiery stratus]

whats good for deimos?

[marble crater]

Uncanny and Exorcist for special attack memes

[strong gulch]

Slaughter + uncanny is the general purpose combo

uncanny + unstable / executor for more single target focused

[marble crater]

No, Executor instead of Exorcist...

[fiery stratus]

warp res dump?

[marble crater]

Mixed up the blessings

[strong gulch]

yes

[fiery stratus]

ok ty

[strong gulch]

Especially since the special is usually not used much.

The horde clear with warp splitting and assail weaving isn't too bad.

[marble crater]

If only it didn't lock you in place

[strong gulch]

At least we can dodge out of it now.

[fiery stratus]

I use the evis and vet shovels too, i'm relatively used to it

[strong gulch]

If you want uncanny stacks quickly and it's safe enough to do a special, you get em quickly with that.

The push attack always hits the weakspot too.

[plucky flax]

Trying to do a clean havoc 40 for contents but it was extremely painful.

[fiery stratus]

carry me too so i can cheese the rank

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

I don't have time now. FLight in like 8 hours.

Gonna chill.

[wet cloak]

If anyone is willing, I'd like feedback on this build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9daad416-1ab8-4ed8-afcd-8c6a0dd72edc/fgs-las

[fiery stratus]

gotta work in a few anyway

[wet cloak]

Also ignore the FGS stats, I forgot to edit them

[marble crater]

Congratz, enjoy your vacation. We will all wait for you to carry us when you return

[plucky flax]

I will try for you!

[strong gulch]

I hope your trip / family time is good!!

[marble crater]

I don't know anything about this kind of build, sorry

[plucky flax]

Hmm any reason for smite with gazer?

Since you don't even use warp unbound anyway and it's not ep smite.

[wet cloak]

@marble crater That's fine, I mostly put it out there to see if anyone had some criticism for it

@plucky flax Mostly as a panic button

I know some run warp unbound with assail

[plucky flax]

DD synergies too much with assails.

So you miss out on a lot of free damage.

[clear heath]

If you feel like you need points for anything, warp expenditure (toughness on peril gain) and endurance (toughness DR during scriers) are easy to drop.
Can also play around with ditching cruel fortune (3 DD stacks on weakspot kill) and see how much trouble you have with keeping stacks up

[wet cloak]

I could change to assail

[fiery stratus]

ah i forgot to ask for deimos perks

[strong gulch]

Heavy pistol kinda dumps ammo, I'd switch to assail. Burn stacks with mainly be applied to flak; so I'd swap maniac to flak. Also swap warp expenditure for perilous combustion; BUT if survivability is more important swap it for soulstealer.

[wet cloak]

I do feel I need the survivability

[clear heath]

I honestly think toughness DR on scriers is less useful than just a 15 tougness node

you're very unkillable during scriers

[wet cloak]

If I switch to assail, then I assume it would be better to go with a revolver or bolt pistol?

[plucky flax]

No you can still play your laspistol.

It's just extra free range damage from assails.

[strong gulch]

Unyeilding + maniac. the heavy 2 can one shot mutants if you hit the in the head.

Otherwise check cara breakpoints if that's your main crusher weapon.

[clear heath]

also kinda surprised you don't have this

for a scriers laspistol build

you'll crit and keep scriers up longer

[strong gulch]

Most guns go with assail, even recon lasgun.

[fiery stratus]

ty

[wet cloak]

@clear heath Lack of points tbh, I might consider dropping warp rider to put more points into survivability and peril management

[clear heath]

just drop warp expenditure

25% toughness from 100% peril is too low to care about

[strong gulch]

If you are going full damage.

Of course there is room for changes. Like if you don't plan on doing melee during scriers then by crack of bone might not be your pick.

[wet cloak]

I feel like one with the warp is too risky for me not to take

my skill level isn't that great at dodging

[fiery stratus]

the solution is to dodge gooder

more gooder

[strong gulch]

TBH, it has made a world of difference to me in my games and I am mid at dodging; but also fair.

[clear heath]

if you really want one with the warp, ditch Cruel fortune for it and just put a bit more attention on stacking DD

it's super easy to stack anyways with that 10s duration

[pulsar hazel]

If this is a gunker I'd do this personally

[wet cloak]

Alright, well thank you to everyone for the feedback

[strong gulch]

NO. Sure drop soulstealer if you don't need/ want to toughness gen from assail. But not battle med.

[plucky flax]

No perfect timing for the assails damage

[clear heath]

people are gonna call me a heretic for this, but perilous combustion is also droppable on gun psyker builds

[strong gulch]

I kinda agree tho.

[clear heath]

if it's literally your only source of soulblaze, it ends up being like 5% of your damage
which is still good and kinda above average for a node, but it's optional

[wet cloak]

I've tried running perilous combustion before and my only problem is that most things end up dead before it procs

[summer prairie]

a lot of that is wasted damage too, you'll end up shooting the elites that have stacks on them

[pulsar hazel]

Use enough I would just say those are the first on the chopping block if you'd like more flex with points. I also rarely put that many points in Gaze upgrades on gunker but that's just me.

[strong gulch]

Like this gets you protection, toughness gen and most of the damage nodes.

[summer prairie]

definitely way worse than say faster assail charges

[strong gulch]

Battle med over perfect timing is still wild to me.

[strong gulch]

yes

Gunker is also assail spammer

[wet cloak]

Would prescience work well with assail, perfect timing?

[plucky flax]

It helps your burga teammate tho

[pulsar hazel]

Maybe. I use Gaze a bit differently. I'll consider what you told me.

[clear heath]

yeah a lot of perilous damage does get wasted if there's no other soulblaze sources

[summer prairie]

if you don't kill those elites

at least with bistol I end up just shooting the whole group unless there are ogryns mixed in

[wet cloak]

@strong gulch I copied most of your build, but I removed cruel fortune for warp speed so I can outrun the zealots :P

[plucky flax]

How much damage did you do in your havoc with lfg tool?

[clear heath]

personally i'd rather have warp speed than cruel fortune, but i do tend to melee more on scriers builds

[clear heath]

oh based

[plucky flax]

On your burga

[summer prairie]

at work so can't check, maybe 900kish

[nocturne dust]

Warp Speed just needs to be active during the lingering effect before I'll be interested in it

[summer prairie]

there was a flamer and a bolter that did a ton of damage

[plucky flax]

Sounds like a nice clean fast run.

[summer prairie]

they were all roughly 35 minutes

[plucky flax]

I want to do a fast one.

'fast'. Sub 40 mins.

But people hang around too much.

[nocturne dust]

2 hour havoc runs

[clear heath]

damn the runs get that long?

[nocturne dust]

no, lol

[plucky flax]

I don't think that's possible.

[nocturne dust]

At least, not normally

[nocturne dust]

Wdym, nothing is stopping you from hanging out and chilling

[marble crater]

Watch me

[summer prairie]

I was watching a havoc run where a psyker was trying to solo clutch and had to BB regular shooters one by one, maybe that could take 2 hours

[plucky flax]

Extreme pain edition.

[clear heath]

I think if i did an enclavum baross run with randoms and didn't go to the batteries, they would probably farm kills for 2 hours without realizing

[nocturne dust]

don't they take multiple BBs with the range resist

[late sapphire]

snipers are 2 bbs...

[nocturne dust]

💀

BB just gets worse and worse in the meta

[clear heath]

tfw a poxburster takes multiple brain bursts

burster won't burst

[late sapphire]

yeah i saw that too

[gritty geyser]

no fucking way

[late sapphire]

15xx damage not enough to kill one

[gritty geyser]

real???

[nocturne dust]

Earlier Atlas was lmbing a reaper on the head and he was literally killing it slower than purg on carapce in normal dam 💀

[plucky flax]

For havoc yeah it's real maybe at 0% peril.

[clear heath]

ranged resistant burster refusing to explode

[late sapphire]

had some peril and ws too

[clear heath]

nightmare fuel

[late sapphire]

didnt burst...

[plucky flax]

That is sad.

[late sapphire]

trauma bursts though

[plucky flax]

You must simply channel your inner warp more.

[summer prairie]

at havoc 40 pus-hardened enemies take 50% ranged damage and already have buffed hp

[late sapphire]

man getting instakilled by that crusher traumatised me

[plucky flax]

4 surges havoc 40 pus

[clear heath]

yeah i saw the numbers for pus-hardened in the guide but i swear it feels worse than that

[late sapphire]

I dont think i have ever played a havoc round without pus hardened

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-im-too-weak-weak-too-weak-i-am-too-weak-gif-27278272

[plucky flax]

I have blight every game.

[nocturne dust]

Lol, I always get blight

[plucky flax]

Nurgle's most blessed son.

[late sapphire]

only had it twice

25 now

[nocturne dust]

wtf

[plucky flax]

I have enough of these goop on the floor man.

[late sapphire]

2 chorus zealots a bubble psyker and a pub

been booze cruising no issue

[clear heath]

yeah blight is in most of my games

[nocturne dust]

I like the 3 psykers and a pet corruption cleanser comp

[marble crater]

Goop on floor is awful, half the team was 80% corrupted after the first horde yesterday

[late sapphire]

the one time i had goop we had two beacon chorus zealots

[clear heath]

I've gotten pretty used to blight now but I imagine it'll get worse at 35 with the horde buffs

[late sapphire]

just ignored the stuff

[nocturne dust]

I actually like being Zealot on Havoc because it means I just get to chill in a bubble until a boss shows up

[late sapphire]

this round there is a shield gun ogryn

lets see if he survives

[marble crater]

Do two cleans auras stack by any chance?

[clear heath]

I don't think they do?

[plucky flax]

Choir boi

[late sapphire]

harder to get separated from one

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/choir-performing-sing-singing-dance-moves-gif-14171748

[plucky flax]

Shield oggy

[clear heath]

I actually haven't see anyone try to be a shield ogryn in havoc yet

[summer prairie]

I've, I think he did good damage

[nocturne dust]

the playtesters did a 3 oggie and a zealot run

[clear heath]

I've seen just like a normal pickaxe ogryn that did okay

[wet cloak]

I've noticed that there's quite a lot more psykers lately in general

[nocturne dust]

Psyker is in a much better spot than they were

[clear heath]

well new sword + bubble being important for havoc

It'd be weird if i didn't see more psykers, with how cool the sword is

[wet cloak]

I played psyker on release and when they were nerfed to the ground, a lot better now.

[marble crater]

Ammo being a bigger factor in havoc too

[nocturne dust]

I wish relic blade was cool like FGS

[marble crater]

I like my relic blade, turn on and be a blender

[clear heath]

Relic blade is cool but i'm not like a huge fan of its gameplay

[nocturne dust]

But it doesn't feel like that 😭

[clear heath]

like idk, there isn't anything wrong with it but there's nothing that makes me really want to use it

[wet cloak]

The Relic Blade also doesn't sound as impactful with the sounds when it hit

It just has the standard power sword audio

from what I could tell

[high turret]

guys is the flamethrower good

[clear heath]

yes very

[nocturne dust]

Uh

This is Psyker chat

[high turret]

how do you make it not suck

[nocturne dust]

[high turret]

oh scheisse

IM SORRY

LMFAO

I GENUINELY LOOKED IN THE WRONG CHAT SORRY

[nocturne dust]

INFERNO STAFF IS COOL THO

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[high turret]

yeah dw i have an inferno staff built it is dope

[fiery stratus]

flamer is good, just needs blazeaway and something else

[nocturne dust]

the ability to turn heretics into ammunition

[wet cloak]

Imagine needing ammo to use fire

[fiery stratus]

tru

[wet cloak]

Oof

[high turret]

your ammo is your brain and your brain can blow up

think about that

[wet cloak]

I don't want to think about that, if I think too hard my brain blows up

[high turret]

AVERAGE PSYKER GAMEPLAY

[nocturne dust]

Fire being the meta against the Nurgle cult is 100% lore accurate

[clear heath]

so is there any noticeable difficulty spikes in havoc 30-40?

i've only just beaten 30

[plucky flax]

Nah just enemies are tankier.

And shooters more dangerous.

[nocturne dust]

35 is supposedly a spike from what I've heard

[plucky flax]

If you can clear 31 you can clear 40.

(Just get good teammates)

[marble crater]

What can I clear when I can clear 21?

[clear heath]

22

[plucky flax]

Counting champion.

[ornate hamlet]

Anyone got a havoc build they want to share?

[plucky flax]

Depend on the havoc level?

[ornate hamlet]

I'm not gonna lie, level 0 ATM. I still need to do a Maulstrom mission to unlock it. I'm just curious if there was a solid build people were following

[marble crater]

I'm using bubble, purgatus for everything. I tried using a surge, but trying to kill green blessed enemies is a PAIN

[plucky flax]

Oh low havoc are dead easy you can run anything up to 20. 20~30 is also pretty free it's more about players skills.

[summer prairie]

just always roll blight instead