#psyker-class
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hell yea - theyre so much fun, truly
zealots got the stronger sword but we got the way cooler sword
using it just feels so much fun
Hey guys what mark should I use for my first force sword, just starting the game
Whichever animation set feels more natural to you, go for that one with greatsword, yeah
For regular I’d probably say… Deimos
Is greatsword unlocked on the get go
I like the Illisi but it can be a bit awkward for a new player
Level 10 I think?
I think it unlocks at the same time as other forceswords
Really I thought it was more of a CC melee
I like how I can do light heavy spam for horde clear, feels much better than just lights
And Deimos is for elites
If you use their combos perfectly, yeah
And I mean their activations are different
Illisi has a horde clear swipe and Deimos has a head stab grab thing
You don’t really use Deimos special because of how good it is with just uncanny lol
I feel for a total new player who typically spams lights more often, the Deimos has better results
And it trains you to recognise combos from it mixing in stabs
I dunno, I had trouble sniping headshots with rapier in vermintide with heavy, not sure how well I can do that Deimos
Then go for Illisi, honestly Psyker is lucky
All our weapons are great
Use whatever flows/feels natural
feel like unarmored is slept on for gun builds - bearing in mind it covers gunners, shotgunners, bomber, sniper, those are the ones along with bosses that you're gonna want to shoot
It may not be the absolute meta pick, but it’ll be good
I also want ilisi abut all I’m seeing are Deimos and obscures in the shop
I’m lvl 2 btw
You can swap them
It definitely feels more forgiving in DT
Reallly, how
In your inventory select the sword as if you were to equip it, but in the top right is an option called “Marks”
Above Cosmetics
You can swap freely between the marks of any weapon
But don’t I need a certain level of trust
ive been thinking about trying it out, i think it will give more value than the 5% crit i have on rn
Even with lowest height I feel I can still headshot really consistently with em
Ohh right, forgot that sorry. No not trust, just sword mastery which you get from using any force sword
How do see how much trust u have btw
Oh okay
The number for marks is mastery and is weapon dependent
Thanks for the tips
So you may have like 4 Force Sword mastery
I think 7 is when it allows you to pick Deimos?
Basically complete missions with any Force Sword equipped to get mastery for it
My fave character in vermintide was sienna, hopefully it translate well to psyker
You don’t take damage quelling peril in DT at least
Funny enough mine was Kirillian
Shade, Sister of Thorn and Waystalker depending on mood
Mainly Sister of Thorn
In Darktide I only really play Psyker, at least at any of the endgame content
@radiant ice small argument against your anti-stam argument https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJbsxyYwvdI
This demonstration is using the Deflector blessing on FS, but it has the same effect with the peril cost of blocking melee.
Kerillian never really clicked with as much sienna and BH
What do you mean anti stam?
Stam kicks ass on Psyker
I just said it didn’t fit that particular build xD
I find it very build dependant
Like a knife with 2 stamina is useless
The greatsword defaults to 6
I don’t feel 9 from adding a curio is needed
i have no idea why fgs has so much god damn stamina, but i ain't complaining
Me neither
I guess it makes sense as it’s tied to blocking
And it also gives the impression that someone wielding a greatsword would be in better physical condition
It’s weird but I’ll take it xD
It could also be its easier to parry away weapons with a giant ass sword with an actual hilt rather than a tiny knife with no protection for your hand in the slightest
But stamina is also used for stuff like running
The hilt gives us +7 to our magic stat fr fr
Actually I’m just not going to question it
Greatsword has lower stamina cost to sprint than the devil claw
What
0.92 on GS, 1.00 on Devil Claw
Lmao
Lmao
A stamina curio just doesn’t feel worth with the greatsword to me
It naturally reduces your sprint cost by 8% and gives you a big whack of stamina
It is a stamina curio
For nearly every other Psyker weapon, sure
yeah i don't think it's necessary
did they change assail cost today?
For Havoc I’d rather 3 HPs
For Auric I’d rather 2T/1HP
With greatsword
For Standard, just dodge fivehead
Dying in Standard brings shame to your siblings
I sometimes even use 3 Stam curios in Standard
Cause why not, it’s funny to outrun Zealots especially with that +40% move speed greatsword build I made
Faster than them for three times the distance
Hit them with this expression in passing
Anyway I’m going to sleep
Enjoy the chadiest Psyker that ever lived

What's the dump for the greatswords? defense or warp resist?
Warp
great
warp always
new tech just dropped
if the breakpoint for burn on force staffs is 76% does that technically mean anything over is wasted?
yes, right?
Tis good
I like low res purgatus staves because they feed into my venting shriek cycle
But I mean, burn doesn't have to be 80% to be optimal so long as it's at least 76%?
Correct
Yeye, this is mostly a melee build but i'm finding the staff is really for just for building peril to set up venting shriek
thanks
so aside from 2% warp resist this one should be goated as a base
staff dump stats always confound me
yes
unless it's something like smite staves, I personally see warp res as a dump stat
EK staff is also warp res dump
wow barrels can fly you to the moon
impressive
Is a melee psyker build viable with the new sword? If so anyone got a quick skill guide?
Melee psyker was always viable
Ohh sorry I just started the class and, always dislike mage rolls in games.
But gotta hit that level 30 with all classes.
Melee psyker is just a glass canon version of zealot. One mistake and you're dead but it's fun
I do like dying in one shot
nah psyker is quite durable now too
What are the best blessing and perks for the Greatsword MK VIII currently?
wrath and shred/momentum apparently. Haven't tested it all myself yet
Could I get any tips/advice on this build? Its a greatsword+gun build
(Tranquility through slaughter thing is for when running columnus V since it gives me a lotta toughness back during gaze when in a gunfight with shooters but otherwise flex point)
Don't think force greatswords are for me, they're too slow. After a couple dodges it feels like you're walking in mud
To spoiled by dueling sword?
No I use the hammer and evis all the time, also low mobility
But still noticeably better than FGS mobility
How?
That's discounting the charge, im just talking general movement, it feels way too sluggish
25% boost to base toughness
in general psyker never really had durability issues when played properly
The main things I'd note is that you're missing empathic evasion and one with the warp.
Drop the 5% ranged damage node and endurance or piercing shards to pick up both of them. You don't need piercing shards when you have warp splitting tbh
One With The warp is just straight up better than endurance. It's active when scriers isn't on, and once you're at ~45% peril it's more effective anyway
Oh you mean for dropping Anticipation. I was using it to offset FGS awful dodging.
Youd say empathetic evasion is a better choice?
Well you could have both. The weakest talent on your build atm is piercing shards. You could just drop that for empathic
Yea that works then, Kinda wish I could keep tranquility through slaughter. It really keeps gaze going / toughness regenerating when I'm focused on using the gun.
Tranquillity is great I wouldn't drop it
I always run it on my recon builds (I don't play much with columnus now)
Yea gotta farm recon mastery still, but its next now that I just finished up bolt pistol
Hrm, if I drop both the 5% ranged damage & Anticipation I could grab tranquility + one other thing, but don't know what to slot. Endurance?
I could be irresponsible and get warp speed cause movement speed is always fun
You already have tranquillity on the screenshot I'm seeing, but one with the warp is REALLY good. Movement speed is also based
Yea on the one I linked
I removed 5% ranged damage, piercing shards, endurance, and anticipation. Then grabbed the toughness point, one with the warp, and empathetic evasion.
So, to clarify, based on this screenshot if you drop 5% ranged damage, piercing shards, endurance and anticipation you have four points (enough to grab the toughness reduction node, one with the warp and empathic evasion and one other). I vote for using the last point for movement speed because of fun factor
my god
Yea I think thats what I'll go for then. Once I get the recon lasgun I'll replace it with perilous combustion
That is the greatest thing I've ever seen
any fun surge staff builds currently?
You can ball out as a psyker with a gun and a bigass sword, no worries.
I don't like it eating all my peril unless I'm running the peril buildup decrease perk
empowered psionics smite/shriek + surge staff + melee of choice goes pretty great
Its my go to 'turn off brain and lazily farm auric histg' build
peril builds up faster than my shriek cycle with warp res super low
ek staves are greedy
With max quell speed on staff + 30% quell speed you can quell it insanely fast manually with the staff, which is great for toughness regen.
Yeah i just played around and there's actually a boat load of melee perks so will invest and go forth.
Looks good but try to get pc too.
^ I concur
Aren't there like only 1.5 psyker melee perks?
Also EE is another one for consideration. Give you free dodge when crit and you run gazer so you will be critting a lot.
A lot of psyker perks affect everything equally rather than one or the other
I'd drop assail recharge speed for one of these or just more toughness also.
The force greatsword is the best thing that has happened to me
Hey guys, if you have an inferno build and an enemy with soulblaze dies from an ally, do you still get the toughness from it?
With no other sources of soulblaze?
I hate psyker gameplay and yet this sword is enough to make me a psyker main
Which talent are you talking about
Yeah it's worth it just for elites groups. Well if you don't play maelstrom or high havoc then it's not worth it.
Does the +ranged damage node affect DoTs? Trying to decide on where a final point can be spent
Soul drinker
Souldrinker, far right side in the middle. And the answer is no
Finally completed Havoc 30 with inferno
You specifically have to kill an enemy with soulblaze, but it doesn't matter who applies the soulblaze
can confirm Samatha is indeed scary
Awe dang thanks
Nice now you can have the real funny havoc with emperor light 2. 
havoc is so exhausting to me tbh
I just finished a 30 one and there is still 10 more ranks to go
I don't even want to think about the True Survivor penance
Is mobility or collateral the dump stat on recon lasgun?
It's not bad if you have good teammates with toughness stacking and a lot of cc.
Tbh psyker we have an easier time in havoc because not have to worry about ammo.
I feel like a team needs exactly 2 book zealots just chaining them
and then grab a vet with a plasma gun
People are also figuring it out. After a couple weeks/months a lot of people will be able to clear high havoc with the right builds.
👆 Ran into a good group an hour ago, and it was just SO much easier. Everyone knew how to use cover, everyone knew how to stay together and take each corner at a time etc.
makes a big diff
Just got the game for ps5 loving psyker class just wanted to say hello to my beloved brothers and sisters of the crazy warp shenanigans
I think havoc can be a slog but it can also really improve your awareness and positioning because it's 'if you get touched by shooters you die'. Especially 31+ when it becomes emperor light 2.
Then you go back to maelstrom and shooters become peashooters.
Emperor light 2?
Collateral
what mean this
Its mostly the shooters
If youre in a good team youll see everyone check corners
Yeah, even the noraml shooters will just melt your health
Great, more inferno kills!
really makes me thankful to have my bubble
with a very good group it barely felt harder than regular maelstorm with pubs, only around 35 minutes per map for 35-40
Also ngl normal shooters are more dangerous than wlite gunners
Seems like auric maelstrom got way harder too
AM prob just got harder because people join it for havoc access
my favourite aspect is how Havoc has SLOWED everyone down. Got kinda tedios with a knife-zeal running through, or a duelling sword psyker just clearing everything 2 rooms ahead.
Do that in high-havocs and you're deader than a medical ceo
Nah, it's teammates who got worse unironically
Hmm did it? Maelstrom feels the same.
I think harder because a lot of new people queuing to it.
Not because of increased difficulty.
Ps5 + old players coming back for an update
They need to change certain abilities to make havoc actually difficult
If you could 'solo clutch' maelstrom before you should do it now.
I mostly also hate how Havoc for how bullet spongy how the pox skin made the enemies. Limiting my weapon selection
Id rather have ps5 players than old returning players tbh
or/and introduce some of the mutators that aren't currently available, like the harder version of monster specialists and duplicating enemies (if that is ever even happening due to performance issues)
Syllo wanna play couple rounds?
Returning players always act like gods for some reason 
Or you going to work?
already at work, after it I can
Yeah in thinking of just running purgatus build
With bubble
There is a non zero chance they were
that's what i've been doing
Just rusty
If not then just to complete it from someone else's level.
What havoc tier are you guys on
10 lol
I'm 34 cos bad. 
I don't host
40
23 rn
28 here 
Ainz can you host?
nah
Noob.
mine 18
Cant host either
But also I'm confused can you just like straight up skip havoc levels

I'll play with you
40 but can host only 16
I haven't bothered to do havoc yet cause it just looked like weaves but in darktide
30 clearance, 12 for my own assignment lol
need a zeal chaos?
That's crazy
it is
Yoy can get from 1 to 40 clearance in 1 game
Also why am I not getting 'assists havoc people' when I am hosting?
I did that yesterday lmao
Got pulled into 27
I might grind to 40 for the novelty on one class
You need to join
But I only really care for the armor set
because you are doing your own havoc assignment, not someone else's
Yeah I am gonna do a 34 maybe 35 after depend on time before I gotta go do some stuff.
What if I just want to host?
But i queued for that team like an hour ago before i got accepted so idk
do we need vc?
I don't want to help.
I don't know how that works exactly tho, sometimes I get 1 progress, sometimes 2. But you can host for that.
No need if you don't want I play with syllo without any vc.
with friends rn
I have no idea, let other person select the mission? I think that works as well
Well, that's what assist means
Ping communication. 
Hello friends
I want this modifier on regular auric missions. Specifically the first part about tension.
I'd love to join, but I'm all the way in asia so the ping won't be good for it
@plucky flax give me 10 min then
Tru it'd make more spawns so it can be fun with squishy maelstrom enemies.
what about me fren
Easy 1 mil damage every game.
2 hour game smh
With you we can have 4. THere's a guy I found in lfg channel. 
wait so am i in or no lmao
Yeah if you want to join?
yeah
some end events still seemed very easy on high havoc, like chasm logistratum event was basically the same
This a good setup? (Just dumped resources to level up the mastery and crafted one)
I am on my phone and I keep fat finger ing the ping button sorry.
Also discord didn't allow me to this message because of the finger word, lol.
No I mean ping in game.
With look here enemies and go there.
It's good enough to communicate.
Mobile darktide gaming 
Bind lmb to ping button
👍
Ya
Which one is mk XII again?
With tru aim you could drop crit chance for another damage perk like unyielding to fight monsters.
Tbh I personally prefer unyielding just cause scriers up time is insane
Is it VId?
Yeah the super fast one (best)
And also ye true aim
when are we running
When big ainz finish his game.
end of refinery
The slow one is also good I think?
It's just the middle one that's stinky
How are you typing and playing?
fast
200 wpm
I keep 1 monitor to see class chat
I thought I was fast but I think my wpm is like just under 100wpm.
one monitor for each class chat
Turns out I am slow typer. 
Mine is 110
Don't worry
Without punctuation though
havoc 35-40, 130 wpm+
Havoc 40 gears check builds check skills check wpm check gpu check cpu check real life pic check 
Just so I know u gud.
Check teammates builds and steam profiles
It's kinda crazy that most people with computers know English at a base level just cause qwerty keyboards are so standardized
we using exploits in our runs?
going through walls
Going through walls?
I don't know how to do that.
shhh
I knew a couple English words without ever learning English since I was maybe 6
On any maps? 
It's just so present
Everywhere
Naur
YES
That sounds awful rip my ears.
Gmod PTSD
is there a way to break down fgs special damage in powerDI?
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/sound-bug-stuttering-audio-after-todays-hotfix/102651 @west basin this might fix it
Fatshark Forums
Issue Type (Required): Audio Issue Description (Required): EDIT: I updated my Nvidia drivers to the latest drivers, to no avail. Also tested another map (the one that came with the Grim protocols update). It seemed to happen rarer in that map, but the issue still occured. Worked perfectly fine yesterday. Tried three games today, all games expe...
I think this guy has the same issue as you
does Power DI work with the update
there's a fix in the nexus bug thread
Apparently it's something to do with spatial audio
Is power DI better than scoreboard
this fit on the French psyker goes so hard and fits very well tbh lol
i dont like the psyker gasmask tbh
@plucky flax Ready
it's less convenient but more detailed for some things
you can just run both though
I was thinking more for performance cause scoreboard has memory leak issues
@split lance
Power DI has terrible performance if you don't disable autosaving during runs
scoreboard has bugged calculations for Trauma and soulblaze among other things, afaik
vc or no
No.
Yeah as long as I don't save the run data it should be good right?
Communicate with >yes and >no 
Okay I can talk with you if you want.
Most social dt player
Yes and No are most based.
Yes
don't forget about thanks
Light > block
thanks lmao
he was doing it insanely fast
He's just french and into fencing.
probably macro l1 qq
😮💨
left click electro such a good havoc cheese
Having the mastery skin is cool and all but I think I prefer my giant Obscurus
Half because the blade isn't red and half because of the golden crossguard
Think on things like swords and the pickaxe specifically, red paint on the blade (and the entire pickaxe) is icky
oops i did a 16 with no talents oopsie
Did weapon customizer get updooted
No idea, basically saying the Mk6 FGS is just a giant Obscurus FS
not yet, still works, just crashes on new weps
SG + DD FGS 
Can't really use VS + WB like I can using Illisi but better at fighting mixed hordes in melee 
And though I am a Flaming Shriek enjoyer, I don't really want to go back to Illisi just to easily activate it
Just fyi, you should try not to kill bursters when they're near your teammates
I want to do cool force slash.
Pox gas cancer I need zealots for this. 
Honestly yeah, I like the base skins more. Plain polished steel beats painted metal every time.
what are the best options for great sword ? like build weapon combo
so gaze ?
Get a team kill with it
I run it with my void strike bubble build
FGS is honestly good enough out of the box that you can run it with anything, you just need to know what your other stuff is and how it would interact with FGS
Send your burga havoc build?
hmm then i shall try gaze build first then bubble
This. You don't even have to think that hard since there's no enemy type FGS can't handle.
I personally am so used to gaze that I had an easier time with it than bubble but
that's just because I love playing Psylot
@split lance good delete, bad build
Is anyone experiencing a bug with the greatsword, where it's constantly trigger the "power up" effect every time you kill an enemy, instead of just when it crosses the 1st and 2nd lvl threshold?
I'm honestly just shocked you picked kinetic flayer over kinetic resonance
KF is, and I say this as a KF lover, bad
why would i be using resonance
i didnt use BB once
It's not an EP BB build and KF was buffed.
was it?
Yes
how so?
KF been cracked since day one 
It only procs on specials, elites and monstrosities.
yes it's fantastic
news here, since which update?
its been months
surprise, its been months since I did left tree
it was addressed like a week after KF was a thing
It's been a awhile. A couple ago??
funny, I've always had it proc on silly things I didn't need it to proc on
but I suppose KF goes "oh THIS elite" and I was gonna one shot em anyways
It's not a super new change but it's also not super old.
Still has kinetic flayer 0/10
super nice when you kill 2 elites for the price of one
come on , it has been slightly buffed and now only trigger on valuable target 
Is this video about how bad kinetic flayer is?
give it a minute tag, not just a raw ass video lawl
i blew my load 2x
THIS DUDE GETS IT
Stop FUCKING picking kf
like, I know KF is good and can be leveraged SOMETIMES
but holy butts is KR just better
if it's a choice between the two for one single talent point
I'm gonna take KF just to piss you off
yeah, who wants to one shot any elite at range
I'd be sad you did if only so they buff it again due to pickrate
my bad
KF is not the hugest of damage boosts but it is meaningful, quite nice for if you don't use your blitz much, have a fast hitting weapon, or just want some emotional support gambling.
I love a talent that does 100 dps
KR is a Chad talent. Makes BB actually usable.
You mean, using brain burst
?!
KR and KF are largely for different builds
it takes 45sec to use brain burst
"Oooh it helps monstrosity dps"
Mf havoc monstrosities hit over 100k health
couldnt pay me to use bb
If ONLY there was a perk to reduce that timer 
Any blitz aside from ep smite is useless on havoc
If your team takes 45s to kill a monstrosity KF will do 5% damage at max
and youd use BB how many times the whole game? 5 max? without being detrimental to your team
Getting that last tick of monster damage with a KF proc is always funny tho.
It wins rule of cool, but loses you havoc
i just used it in havoc
I am just sad to read that, it means you've never Use the holy combo of KR / EP / Blue juice to wipe a gunner squad in seconds 
It is better than sex I tell you
And you lost
i won?
I LITERALLY LINKED HAVOC 34
im gonna touch you
thanks everyone I needed that laugh
ur gonna nut and on my screen it wont show up for 2sec
Wtf why do i get called out
Yes
i love you

sus

but i totally got carried
i did get most kills tho so maybe im the one that carried 
That' is only because of KF , if you did not picked it ,you would have carried instead
Unsanctioned Build. Yes take ER with burga just because of the ridiculous quell reduction.
Bubble gaming
I also have to remove perfect timing for extra toughness node just for safety.
But you should run perfect timing tbh.
Love how it went from no skill player to must have
I still have the starter weapons 
just drop KD
Cant upgrade them lmao
It's most important to survive though so for me it's worth it to get extra 15 flat toughness.
battle med being relevant now is the crazy
Nah not when I have to clutch.
Nope. I tried with mods and it crashed my game. lmao
KD without shriek feels bad for me
yeah
always has been
any info on weird shit with fgs yet? like does having half a bar give any bonus? or you need a full 1 or 2 bars to benefit from more damage?
hows fsg on havoc, i barely pull out my melees
ive been liking it on havoc20ish, higher than that i cant confirm
honestly when it gets harder youd be better off just using a weapon taht does more, ie staves.
FGS is a bit sluggish, yeah
it do be havin' power doe
@clear heath this was 18 mins scoreboard. I threw because I got ledged. So creeping flames spam surge is still good if you're the 2nd psyker.
thats what i use
752k damage in 18mins not bad.
i literally dont pull my staff out
@cosmic sigil sorry not playing only logged in to check build. Gonna go for quick jog then have to do some work.
Harold in second place cough cough
lmao
WAIT U STOLE ALL MY WARPFIRE
I'll be back this afternoon.
i'll be a scuola
It's creeping flames spam man no chance you get higher soulblaze.
lol true
and tonight crossfit then going the the vatican see some lights
Also just range damage though I still have more.
But yeah no cc.
So it'll be bad to play if you're the only psyker since you have to take bubble too.
Time to joink this for later 
on leaderboard we won, i had WAY more fire dmg than ranged
atronomically less ranged
ive been running void for the most part
Because you were burga I was trauma.
yeah
So it's expected I have more range damage.
Clearing a gunner group o spawn is massive
oh yeah
jesus christ another KF
but i got to steal all your fire now
drop that instead of perfect timing lol
have you ever used KF?
If you don't like it don't use it.
15% warp damage is absolutely gonna net you more mileage
You're just asking for my burga build so I gave. 
GIVE IT MORE GOOD
Because of the way it works it's a lot often where it'd help you 1 shot a special
So you can quickly move on to other things
It's not always about damage in havoc
yeah but you did over 700k ranged/warpfire. That's 105k damage missed out on from perfect timing
the leaderboard isnt from burga
Just don't run kf then for yourself
thats trauma
Kf is technically better in that case
breaking down kf
not getting technical
okay?
Because faster
trying to tell which of my messages is serious is harder than havoc
oh nice
it's nearly 4am here and I've had some of that brandy Hallowette brought
i need to get more used to playing high havoc before i get confident without bubble
shooters are brutal
bubble is a must in higher havox
As I said you should only play surge as 2nd psyker
i might actually get the bubble achievement now that havoc exists
bubble maxxing
I'm not surprised havoc makes you leverage the team buffers
what build should i run in aurics with psyker: currently i have a BB, VS, EP build and a Assail, dome, EP build
All should work
this reminds me i also have a soulblaze build
but i never tested how much it actually does
What would you guys say to the idea of Force Dueling Swords?
deimos
what blessings should i use on the force great sword?
tier 4 id reckon
i think current meta is wrath + crit chance on dodge
do people run empowered smite?
okay cool ty
only based people
^ this is a joke
run ep smite in my squad and were disemboweling you with our hands
Crit is not the dump stat, correct?
anyone have build for support psyker with the shield?
just started playing psyker and I found that psyker with shield help alot in heresy difficulty and stuff
shield then bottom left for warp siphon ezpz
what about dueling sword is that popular still?
nvm i'm never running dueling sword so i don't care
It's really good, but also pretty high skill ceiling
It's broken
Mobility tank+high damage
Warp is dump
Crit is very important
figured, never used the electric one since I always thought it's just a worse smite. Boy was I wrong 😅
Hi, just just to confirm. If I apply a stack of soulblaze on an enemy and somebody else kills the enemy, do I get the tough heal from soulblaze, and the chance to get warp charges from "in fire reborn"?
You mean souldrinker? That's just your own kills
Same with the charges
soulstealer yes
That's very confusing. The descriptions imply own kills, but tons of people claim that you get the benefit even when someone else last hits the enemy with soulblaze applied.
For soulDRINKER and In Fire Reborn, it doesn't have to be your own kills or even you know applied the SB (soulblaze).
For In Fire Reborn it the enemy doesn't have to die by the SB, just with SB applied.
For soulDRINKER (not soulstealer), the death seemingly has to happen in time with with the SB DOT tic.
Thanks! I mixed up souldrinker and soulstealer.
Understandable. The naming in this game. 😵💫
@wind spruce actually you're right I will remove warp rider for perfect timing
More up time
Actually not totally insane 
So any concensus on what the dump stat is on inferno staff? Quell speed or damage?
Havoc is causing... build havoc

warp res
Quell speed is increasingly vital on higher levels of havoc, especially because of how it scales on stats versus warp res which doesn't scale much at all
Damage isn't a dump on Inferno, direct damage is actually not bad and even though 60 to 80 doesn't make a huge difference, there are scenarios where it would do something, whereas warp res just does so little
Ok, thought it was the burn stat that actually mattered there
Burn matters most
Without solidify it's just painful. I believe they are multiplicative with each other, so 1.85x longer tick time vs 1.295x

Meanwhile the psyker guide says quell is the dump 😄
psyker guide is wrong in a lot of strange places
It's written by one guy, I'd cut him some slack
yeah not dissing him ive been following it a lot
What is the difference between the Obscurus and Deimos Force Swords?
@strong gulch man the gunners are not photogenic
Deimos doesn't want to use its charged attack ever
It's a good single target killer because its h2 knocks down everything but bosses, including crushers
it also does good damage
and it also kills hordes quicker than dueling sword, but of course it's not as OP as dueling sword when it comes to single targets
all you need to do is stab enemies in the weakspot with h2 and they'll fall over and take a bunch of damage
In contrast, illisi is a horde clearer (that now probably falls behind force greatsword)
Obscurus is the strange middle child between Illisi and Deimos
It recently got buffed so I'm not sure how it is now (although I haven't heard good things) but before it was pretty bad and while being the 'inbetween' was actually the worst parts of Illisi and Deimos
So, you know, I wouldn't recommend using pre-buff Obscurus, but I don't have enough information on post-buff Obscurus to really say.
The Atheneum mentions Assail Weave. What's that?
You should write guides
Bascially, standard assail tactics is to spit it out quickly while fighting
So something to please those who for some reason use Assail and give up on Psykinetics Aura?
Oops, I dropped something https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/the-burning-man-inferno-guide

Hm? No, you normally take assail with Scrier's
because Scrier's doesn't really need ability cooldown at all
and assail benefits from Scrier's a lot
And the brain burst passive is not good for Scrier's?
BB passive? KF?
TL;DR
But it looks very comprehensive and detailed at the end, nice 
Yes
It's basically how I nuke noobs asking for Inferno information 
That's just smart, have one place that covers everything instead of answering the same question over and over again 
I literally only wrote it because I got tired answering Inferno questions 
Just tested obscurus for a bit
Still sucks
people will think you are a hero, but in reality you are just an egoistic who doesn't want to answer questions anymore. I wonder if most guides are written because of the same motivation 
HIS NAME IS PURGE
BECAUSE HE PURGES HERETICS
Noobs won't know that 
U right 
Excuse me. I was studying the Atheneum. Yes, KF
Literally the slot system means most of them just won't do anything and stand there, and the ones that do actually move hit you so hard even with invincibility the recoil makes it hard to take pictures 😭
not recoil
er... hit flinch
They're even hit flinching each other.
yeh 
I don't know which Coherency I should put on my Scrier's Gaze build...
Normally, the crit chance cuz you're already on that side
Elite one kinda sucks so it's between crit or ability cooldown, and Scrier's doesn't need cooldown
because it gets a 10 second lingering effect after ending
which is longer than 10 seconds

Thank you. Elite one is the only bad choice anyways since I need 2 points to get it from Assail anyways
Elite one wouldn't be bad if it was double or worked on bosses and specials
but that is not the case
It's a worse vet aura 
lmb
wat about lmb
I'm now creating a Electro Staff build with the knowledge I gained from the Atheneum, but I'm in a bind since the Atheneum doesn't discredit Smite. So far I have been studying a lot of Mister E. 
How the...
EK RMB spam prefers BB with KF
HOW THE HELL DID I GET 0% DAMAGE?
you never swap to BB
but KF is better than never using a blitz
Of course, smite is better if you get easily pinched
but for raw DPS, KF
Thank you. Though I would love to know if there's any time I should put Smite on my build instead of BB KF, or Assail
I mean, for raw DPS? Not unless you're going a full smite build
Otherwise smite is mainly a CC and safety tool
Play smite bubble spam in havoc. Its the equivalent of 'I'm support healer' or something in mmo
'I'm not confident enough to play so pls carry'
actually tempted rn, playing inferno and trauma while hiding in a bubble gets old
Any suggestions with reasoning for the last point in my current build? Excluding Empathic Evasion since I don't see the value in it
are you going EK lmb spam?
Mfw I played havoc 34 and team was like 'psyker can you use smite?'
I'm like no bruh I don't smite survive yourself.
Kinda. Also put points into LMB spam
I would suggest either going full RMB or full LMB
LMB makes use of some RMB, but you don't really need to invest into RMB for it to work
I would also suggest Solidity over Puppet Master
Coherency range is... very meh
Then I shall go full LMB since I need to get mastery for Force Sword so I can switch to Illisi
As for your extra point, I would actually drop Empyric Shock and perilous assault at your current level to grab warp rider
and then use the extra point to grab the 5% crit next to the node above warp rider
I'm happy to pick shield in havoc b/c I like it anyways but if people are gonna demand I pick specific blitz they can eat my jorts
Thank you
Warp Rider is more valuable than Empyric Shock because it will buff all your damage on top of also being very easy to keep at max (and even if you don't edge, it still buffs quite significantly)
It's an easy 10% extra damage at all times as long as you're above 50% peril
and the 5% crit is nice. Empyric Shock would probably be better, but that's two points and you need those for Warp Rider 
Yep if they don't want me to play then they can suck it. Imagine cc bot instead of doing astronomical damage with your staff
Empyric shock IS better for armor busting tho
if that's something you want from the EK staff
For specific heavy targets, Empyric Shock is better because the boost is larger overall, but you have to build up to it first which is why it is generally worse if you have to pick between the two
and also, their build isn't complete enough to hit the Empyric Shock BP
They're too low level
so I'm assuming they don't have a perfect staff yet
And armor busting is the job of my melee in a LMB build, right?
uh
normally what you do is switch to RMB
you hit them with lmb for empyric shock, then RMB until dead
You can use melee tho
The Deimos should work as a substitute, right?
Very much so, yes
and if you decide to use melee, Empyric Shock won't help with your armor busting
So on pc I played like a revolver and the fancy sword psyker, does that still work on the new updates and stuff? Haven't touched psyker in like a year
Uh, yeah
Anything can work with skill
Revolver is fine
Not sure what you mean by fancy sword buuuuuuuutt
Psyker has a lot of fancy swords
The fencing sword or something, it had a sweet handle
That's the one
I would say revolver + dueling sword is a little too single target focused
In a good spot then ight
Yeah, it's not the best combo
I used the Yondu mind darts for crowds that was my game plan
but you can make it work pretty well
Okay so maybe a different melee then, what's a melee for many many things?
Sounds like a gunker
Force GS
Yeah if you want to be a melee guy the GS is the goat
Illisi is the old option, Force GS just got released
Balling, working on Zeal rn but once she's Havoc ready I'll get on some Psyker
and is basically better Illisi imo
I miss the crazy Brian guy
less defense tho
but you don't need defense on Psyker
pay no attention to Bubble Psyker being the Havoc meta
Maybe the real meta is the fun we have along the way
Shield is not good outside of Havoc
It's okay
but only in Havoc does it become meta
I just enjoy what I enjoy most the time, like the little self enrage thing so I can pew pew better
Big Iron on my hip type gameplay
because Havoc is special and wants to kill everyone
Ah
Havoc is the new hard mode, lol
Bubble is good because you can get one-shot by... a lot
Quietude, to have toughness regen without having to hit/kill things
It is a bunch of cheese, yes
But that's what you get with difficulty
Cheese rises to the top
cheese is fine when 3 trash shooters can one tap you
which is annoying
so we must become more annoying
yeah
Let's all play seer and loner
emperor's light is a shit modifier
Interesting that Havoc seems to push people into building underused abilities
Corruption puddles is a shit modifier
psyker problem ^
Like, picks that I would call dumb for Auric Histg are now borderline gamebreakingly strong in havoc
not ogryn no
Go stand in the goop puddle
no u
Stay in coherency with BoP I guess
weird pick in anything else, borderline mandatory for havoc
Yep, Havoc without a zealot around is painful
It's like every modifier has a hard counter and none of them are interesting lol
Purge staff push
Everything in the game has a hard counter
Choke the horde, push them back
🤷♂️
Ehhh, yes and no
Like, the only modifier with no hard counter would be 'you die immediately'
There's a difference between no ammo pickups in CIVI w/ survivalist vet and BoP on nurgle goop
Truthfully having reach rank 23 im starting to feel it. The conversion to a jank cover shooter
Why FS. Why buff gunners? Lmao
One allieviates the issue somewhat, but the other straight up nullifies it
No ammo pickups is countered by Psyker

G U N P S Y K E R
ew
:)
Yeah, it's ight, would never take it into havoc tho
I am confused as to why the Aethenum recommends Carapace Perk on LMB Surge
or CIVI
For empyric shock rmb armor busting
Understood
I don't know a ton about LMB builds because I find them extremely boring
Any more damage buffs and you can usually one bang crushers after 5 surge bolts
They are
Showertime
but I don't remember carapace being necessary for armor busting on LMB spam
It's not
boltor gunker when 
Why not?
What ranged option are you guys running along with the 2H force sword?
yes
Civi melee scab only is so free you can easily play gun
I run the force GS with everything
I am confused again. The Aethenum recommends only one perk on the Vraks. Anyways, on an ammo hungry gun psyker build I should rock an all rounder melee weapon, right?
and then promptly take it off when I'm on havoc because I have too much fun using force GS and forget to use my other stuff 
What level are you at now?
22
who me? I just passed 25
Cool. 31+ is another big jump
I run fgs on the gunker build because scrier + dd is good for both
I've played way too much Darktide to get to that 25
I don't even get assists for hosting 😭
I just got a random invite for 27
dd?
if i can do 26 with randoms u can do 27
Right keystone
do it
I did tho
Fireteam finder moment
I requested to join the team but didnt get a response
But apparently the invites are still queued or something, because i got accepted about an hour later
After i ran 20 + 21 with a different group
If you play others havoc do you also increase your own?
I don't want to do my 35
Yes
Oh pog
It just says highest tier completion
I don't have to wait until reset?
You have to wait until reset, no?
No I mean my own current map
So you can join others who have a high rank
Understood. Kinda don't have the points to get to DD yet...
@nocturne dust Just for the record, you gain about 10% dmg to DoT ticks with 100% uptime 5 stack blaze away, vs chained full charges.
I want to skip my 35 havoc conditions. Can I play someone else's 35-40 to bypass?
ye
no
Reset just updates your own rank to your highest clear afaik
wait next week
So I have to get cancer. Veri fun thanks pox gas 35
You can but you have to wait
now is prolly the worst time to play havoc
Idk, prolly the best time actually
Also if someone can pull me into a 30+ havoc later that would be appreciated
I just ask really pro players to carry me 
I think the mode will become significantly more dead the more time continues on
unironically the best way is to wait for as many people to get their earned ranks so you have more options with different hosts
WRONG
Not on my end 
Psykers eating gud
16k dmg man wtf
smh everyone came crawling back
gg no smite
gg no trauma
gg no bubble
LOOK WHOS LAUGHING NOW

I mean
How come you're never on psyker, clad?
People were fine with psykers that were good when hm twins was a thing
Clad abandoned psyker for zealot big sword yesterday smh
i hath fallen onto hard times( surfaces )
When theyre good atleast
man i played zealot for 3 months and now ogryn for 4 weeks
i forgot how to play psyker 😭
Ppl were skeptical when I tried to help them 
playing a new weapon on a class i havent played in a while was ruff
zealot gives me the freedon to eat as many overheads as i want 😋
until they hit you twice in a minute

if ur blocking first overhead doesnt proc until death lmao
Initially i tried to vc here for hm but the first person who actually talked left immediately after i said i was a duo with a vet
Like bruh
Then just did a pub, got really close to a clear, asked to merge the team and cleared the second try
i think they need to retexture this outfit lol 
now im not the most experienced psyker or theorycrafter
but this greatsword is like crack and i need tips on what perks to try to make sure i grab for melee/frontline-ish setups
Psyker is so strong in hm people just think they're squishy and do no damage for some reason.
Also we had exclusivity to ds4 back then
Big boss damage
yes
So… what does cleave do for the greatsword?
Does it just increase the amount of enemies hit?
Or does it also do the damage?
someone explain to me what this dude is thinking
When you say that Inforno Warp Res is dump stat, just how much are we talking? 😅
He probably didn’t realize you were doing martyrdom.
theres a fully stacked medicae right past the elevator
I CAN'T BREATHE
Honestly my build works better when there are MORE enemies, inferno just slowly melts everything


