#psyker-class

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hazy moss
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hell yea - theyre so much fun, truly

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zealots got the stronger sword but we got the way cooler sword

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using it just feels so much fun

clever blade
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Hey guys what mark should I use for my first force sword, just starting the game

radiant ice
radiant ice
clever blade
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Is greatsword unlocked on the get go

radiant ice
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I like the Illisi but it can be a bit awkward for a new player

radiant ice
summer prairie
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I think it unlocks at the same time as other forceswords

clever blade
lone ravine
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I like how I can do light heavy spam for horde clear, feels much better than just lights

clever blade
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And Deimos is for elites

radiant ice
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If you use their combos perfectly, yeah

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And I mean their activations are different

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Illisi has a horde clear swipe and Deimos has a head stab grab thing

lone ravine
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You don’t really use Deimos special because of how good it is with just uncanny lol

radiant ice
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I feel for a total new player who typically spams lights more often, the Deimos has better results

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And it trains you to recognise combos from it mixing in stabs

clever blade
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I dunno, I had trouble sniping headshots with rapier in vermintide with heavy, not sure how well I can do that Deimos

radiant ice
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All our weapons are great

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Use whatever flows/feels natural

timber cairn
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feel like unarmored is slept on for gun builds - bearing in mind it covers gunners, shotgunners, bomber, sniper, those are the ones along with bosses that you're gonna want to shoot

radiant ice
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It may not be the absolute meta pick, but it’ll be good

clever blade
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I also want ilisi abut all I’m seeing are Deimos and obscures in the shop

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I’m lvl 2 btw

lone ravine
clever blade
radiant ice
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In your inventory select the sword as if you were to equip it, but in the top right is an option called “Marks”

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Above Cosmetics

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You can swap freely between the marks of any weapon

clever blade
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But don’t I need a certain level of trust

hazy moss
lone ravine
radiant ice
clever blade
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How do see how much trust u have btw

radiant ice
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Trust is your level

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So yours is 2

clever blade
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Oh okay

radiant ice
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The number for marks is mastery and is weapon dependent

clever blade
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Thanks for the tips

radiant ice
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So you may have like 4 Force Sword mastery

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I think 7 is when it allows you to pick Deimos?

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Basically complete missions with any Force Sword equipped to get mastery for it

clever blade
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My fave character in vermintide was sienna, hopefully it translate well to psyker

lone ravine
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You don’t take damage quelling peril in DT at least

radiant ice
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Funny enough mine was Kirillian

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Shade, Sister of Thorn and Waystalker depending on mood

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Mainly Sister of Thorn

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In Darktide I only really play Psyker, at least at any of the endgame content

timber cairn
clever blade
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Kerillian never really clicked with as much sienna and BH

radiant ice
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Stam kicks ass on Psyker

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I just said it didn’t fit that particular build xD

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I find it very build dependant

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Like a knife with 2 stamina is useless

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The greatsword defaults to 6

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I don’t feel 9 from adding a curio is needed

prime elk
radiant ice
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Me neither

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I guess it makes sense as it’s tied to blocking

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And it also gives the impression that someone wielding a greatsword would be in better physical condition

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It’s weird but I’ll take it xD

lone ravine
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It could also be its easier to parry away weapons with a giant ass sword with an actual hilt rather than a tiny knife with no protection for your hand in the slightest

radiant ice
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Yeah that’s what I meant about tied to blocking

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Even though we use magic to block

prime elk
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But stamina is also used for stuff like running

lone ravine
prime elk
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Actually I’m just not going to question it

radiant ice
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Greatsword has lower stamina cost to sprint than the devil claw

prime elk
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What

radiant ice
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0.92 on GS, 1.00 on Devil Claw

lone ravine
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Lmao

prime elk
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Lmao

radiant ice
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A stamina curio just doesn’t feel worth with the greatsword to me

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It naturally reduces your sprint cost by 8% and gives you a big whack of stamina

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It is a stamina curio

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For nearly every other Psyker weapon, sure

prime elk
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yeah i don't think it's necessary

gaunt slate
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did they change assail cost today?

radiant ice
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For Havoc I’d rather 3 HPs

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For Auric I’d rather 2T/1HP

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With greatsword

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For Standard, just dodge fivehead

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Dying in Standard brings shame to your siblings

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I sometimes even use 3 Stam curios in Standard

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Cause why not, it’s funny to outrun Zealots especially with that +40% move speed greatsword build I made

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Faster than them for three times the distance

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Hit them with this expression in passing

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Anyway I’m going to sleep

hexed geyser
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What's the dump for the greatswords? defense or warp resist?

analog agate
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Warp

hexed geyser
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great

thorn blaze
umbral atlas
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if the breakpoint for burn on force staffs is 76% does that technically mean anything over is wasted?

mental grail
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still ~10% a shard

umbral atlas
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yes, right?

mental grail
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Not really

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warp res is a dump stat anyway

analog agate
mental grail
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I like low res purgatus staves because they feed into my venting shriek cycle

umbral atlas
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But I mean, burn doesn't have to be 80% to be optimal so long as it's at least 76%?

analog agate
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Correct

umbral atlas
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Yeye, this is mostly a melee build but i'm finding the staff is really for just for building peril to set up venting shriek

umbral atlas
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so aside from 2% warp resist this one should be goated as a base

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staff dump stats always confound me

mental grail
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yes

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unless it's something like smite staves, I personally see warp res as a dump stat

analog agate
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EK staff is also warp res dump

gloomy magnet
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impressive

distant phoenix
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Is a melee psyker build viable with the new sword? If so anyone got a quick skill guide?

distant phoenix
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Ohh sorry I just started the class and, always dislike mage rolls in games.

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But gotta hit that level 30 with all classes.

hexed geyser
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Melee psyker is just a glass canon version of zealot. One mistake and you're dead but it's fun

distant phoenix
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I do like dying in one shot

prime elk
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nah psyker is quite durable now too

south jay
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What are the best blessing and perks for the Greatsword MK VIII currently?

hexed geyser
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wrath and shred/momentum apparently. Haven't tested it all myself yet

blissful pulsar
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Could I get any tips/advice on this build? Its a greatsword+gun build

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(Tranquility through slaughter thing is for when running columnus V since it gives me a lotta toughness back during gaze when in a gunfight with shooters but otherwise flex point)

fiery stratus
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Don't think force greatswords are for me, they're too slow. After a couple dodges it feels like you're walking in mud

blissful pulsar
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To spoiled by dueling sword?

thorn cedar
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yea the poor dodges is noticable

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its our worst for melee

fiery stratus
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No I use the hammer and evis all the time, also low mobility

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But still noticeably better than FGS mobility

wind spruce
fiery stratus
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That's discounting the charge, im just talking general movement, it feels way too sluggish

prime elk
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in general psyker never really had durability issues when played properly

wind spruce
wind spruce
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One With The warp is just straight up better than endurance. It's active when scriers isn't on, and once you're at ~45% peril it's more effective anyway

blissful pulsar
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Oh you mean for dropping Anticipation. I was using it to offset FGS awful dodging.

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Youd say empathetic evasion is a better choice?

wind spruce
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Well you could have both. The weakest talent on your build atm is piercing shards. You could just drop that for empathic

blissful pulsar
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Yea that works then, Kinda wish I could keep tranquility through slaughter. It really keeps gaze going / toughness regenerating when I'm focused on using the gun.

wind spruce
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Tranquillity is great I wouldn't drop it

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I always run it on my recon builds (I don't play much with columnus now)

blissful pulsar
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Yea gotta farm recon mastery still, but its next now that I just finished up bolt pistol

wind spruce
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It absolutely FUCKS

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The burn is delicious

blissful pulsar
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Hrm, if I drop both the 5% ranged damage & Anticipation I could grab tranquility + one other thing, but don't know what to slot. Endurance?

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I could be irresponsible and get warp speed cause movement speed is always fun

wind spruce
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You already have tranquillity on the screenshot I'm seeing, but one with the warp is REALLY good. Movement speed is also based

blissful pulsar
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Yea on the one I linked

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I removed 5% ranged damage, piercing shards, endurance, and anticipation. Then grabbed the toughness point, one with the warp, and empathetic evasion.

wind spruce
rich spindle
blissful pulsar
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Yea I think thats what I'll go for then. Once I get the recon lasgun I'll replace it with perilous combustion

wind spruce
stuck bridge
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any fun surge staff builds currently?

mental grail
mental grail
blissful pulsar
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Its my go to 'turn off brain and lazily farm auric histg' build

mental grail
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peril builds up faster than my shriek cycle with warp res super low

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ek staves are greedy

blissful pulsar
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With max quell speed on staff + 30% quell speed you can quell it insanely fast manually with the staff, which is great for toughness regen.

distant phoenix
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Yeah i just played around and there's actually a boat load of melee perks so will invest and go forth.

plucky flax
mental grail
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^ I concur

pine shore
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Aren't there like only 1.5 psyker melee perks?

plucky flax
blissful pulsar
pine shore
indigo creek
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The force greatsword is the best thing that has happened to me

tacit hearth
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Hey guys, if you have an inferno build and an enemy with soulblaze dies from an ally, do you still get the toughness from it?

blissful pulsar
indigo creek
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I hate psyker gameplay and yet this sword is enough to make me a psyker main

pine shore
plucky flax
cold hornet
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Does the +ranged damage node affect DoTs? Trying to decide on where a final point can be spent

tacit hearth
blissful pulsar
timber cairn
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Finally completed Havoc 30 with inferno

blissful pulsar
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You specifically have to kill an enemy with soulblaze, but it doesn't matter who applies the soulblaze

timber cairn
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can confirm Samatha is indeed scary

plucky flax
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Nice now you can have the real funny havoc with emperor light 2. PeepoHappy

maiden hornet
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havoc is so exhausting to me tbh

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I just finished a 30 one and there is still 10 more ranks to go

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I don't even want to think about the True Survivor penance

blissful pulsar
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Is mobility or collateral the dump stat on recon lasgun?

plucky flax
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It's not bad if you have good teammates with toughness stacking and a lot of cc.

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Tbh psyker we have an easier time in havoc because not have to worry about ammo.

maiden hornet
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and then grab a vet with a plasma gun

plucky flax
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People are also figuring it out. After a couple weeks/months a lot of people will be able to clear high havoc with the right builds.

timber cairn
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makes a big diff

dusty needle
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Just got the game for ps5 loving psyker class just wanted to say hello to my beloved brothers and sisters of the crazy warp shenanigans

plucky flax
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I think havoc can be a slog but it can also really improve your awareness and positioning because it's 'if you get touched by shooters you die'. Especially 31+ when it becomes emperor light 2.

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Then you go back to maelstrom and shooters become peashooters.

timber cairn
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Emperor light 2?

timber cairn
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what mean this

quartz barn
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Its mostly the shooters

plucky flax
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They shoot even faster and always a lot of spawns.

quartz barn
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If youre in a good team youll see everyone check corners

maiden hornet
timber cairn
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Great, more inferno kills!

maiden hornet
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really makes me thankful to have my bubble

summer prairie
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with a very good group it barely felt harder than regular maelstorm with pubs, only around 35 minutes per map for 35-40

quartz barn
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Also ngl normal shooters are more dangerous than wlite gunners

tacit hearth
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Seems like auric maelstrom got way harder too

quartz barn
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AM prob just got harder because people join it for havoc access

timber cairn
pine shore
plucky flax
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Hmm did it? Maelstrom feels the same.

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I think harder because a lot of new people queuing to it.

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Not because of increased difficulty.

pine shore
verbal thistle
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They need to change certain abilities to make havoc actually difficult

plucky flax
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If you could 'solo clutch' maelstrom before you should do it now.

maiden hornet
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I mostly also hate how Havoc for how bullet spongy how the pox skin made the enemies. Limiting my weapon selection

quartz barn
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Id rather have ps5 players than old returning players tbh

summer prairie
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or/and introduce some of the mutators that aren't currently available, like the harder version of monster specialists and duplicating enemies (if that is ever even happening due to performance issues)

plucky flax
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Syllo wanna play couple rounds?

quartz barn
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Returning players always act like gods for some reason staregryn

plucky flax
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Or you going to work?

summer prairie
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already at work, after it I can

north hatch
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With bubble

plucky flax
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My last day before going.

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I'll try to get 40 today.

pine shore
maiden hornet
pine shore
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Just rusty

plucky flax
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If not then just to complete it from someone else's level.

quartz barn
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What havoc tier are you guys on

pine shore
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10 lol

plucky flax
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I'm 34 cos bad. SadgeCry

pine shore
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I don't host

verbal thistle
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40

north hatch
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23 rn

quartz barn
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28 here Sitgryn

plucky flax
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Ainz can you host?

verbal thistle
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nah

plucky flax
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Noob.

verbal thistle
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mine 18

quartz barn
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Cant host either

north hatch
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But also I'm confused can you just like straight up skip havoc levels

plucky flax
verbal thistle
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I'll play with you

summer prairie
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40 but can host only 16

blissful pulsar
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I haven't bothered to do havoc yet cause it just looked like weaves but in darktide

maiden hornet
verbal thistle
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need a zeal chaos?

north hatch
pine shore
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Yoy can get from 1 to 40 clearance in 1 game

plucky flax
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Also why am I not getting 'assists havoc people' when I am hosting?

quartz barn
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I did that yesterday lmao

plucky flax
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This is bs.

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My penances nooooo

quartz barn
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Got pulled into 27

north hatch
north hatch
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But I only really care for the armor set

maiden hornet
plucky flax
plucky flax
quartz barn
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But i queued for that team like an hour ago before i got accepted so idk

plucky flax
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I don't want to help.

pine shore
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I don't know how that works exactly tho, sometimes I get 1 progress, sometimes 2. But you can host for that.

plucky flax
verbal thistle
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with friends rn

maiden hornet
pine shore
plucky flax
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Ping communication. Pogryn

north hatch
blissful pulsar
# plucky flax

I want this modifier on regular auric missions. Specifically the first part about tension.

maiden hornet
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I'd love to join, but I'm all the way in asia so the ping won't be good for it

verbal thistle
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@plucky flax give me 10 min then

plucky flax
split lance
plucky flax
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Easy 1 mil damage every game.

quartz barn
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2 hour game smh

plucky flax
plucky flax
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Yeah if you want to join?

split lance
summer prairie
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some end events still seemed very easy on high havoc, like chasm logistratum event was basically the same

blissful pulsar
pine shore
plucky flax
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With look here enemies and go there.

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It's good enough to communicate.

quartz barn
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Mobile darktide gaming pogryn

pine shore
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Bind lmb to ping button

pine shore
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Which one is mk XII again?

plucky flax
north hatch
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Tbh I personally prefer unyielding just cause scriers up time is insane

pine shore
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Is it VId?

plucky flax
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Yeah the super fast one (best)

north hatch
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And also ye true aim

split lance
plucky flax
verbal thistle
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end of refinery

north hatch
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The slow one is also good I think?

verbal thistle
north hatch
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It's just the middle one that's stinky

plucky flax
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How are you typing and playing?

verbal thistle
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fast

plucky flax
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Man's got 4 hands.

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And 2 sets of eyeballs.

north hatch
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200 wpm

verbal thistle
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I keep 1 monitor to see class chat

plucky flax
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I thought I was fast but I think my wpm is like just under 100wpm.

summer prairie
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one monitor for each class chat

plucky flax
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Turns out I am slow typer. SadgeCry

pine shore
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Don't worry

north hatch
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Without punctuation though

pine shore
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I have less than 100 wpm

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Although English is my 2nd language

summer prairie
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havoc 35-40, 130 wpm+

plucky flax
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Same. PeepoHappy

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English stinky.

verbal thistle
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mine might be 170

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I forgot

plucky flax
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Havoc 40 gears check builds check skills check wpm check gpu check cpu check real life pic check staregryn

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Just so I know u gud.

pine shore
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Check teammates builds and steam profiles

north hatch
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It's kinda crazy that most people with computers know English at a base level just cause qwerty keyboards are so standardized

verbal thistle
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we using exploits in our runs?

plucky flax
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What exploits? monkaChrist

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I don't know any teach me master.

verbal thistle
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going through walls

north hatch
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Going through walls?

plucky flax
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I don't know how to do that.

verbal thistle
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shhh

pine shore
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I knew a couple English words without ever learning English since I was maybe 6

plucky flax
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On any maps? Pogryn

north hatch
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Everywhere

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Naur

verbal thistle
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YES

maiden hornet
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It's not just the sword for me

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sometimes the game's audio would be super choppy

plucky flax
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That sounds awful rip my ears.

north hatch
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Gmod PTSD

onyx sentinel
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is there a way to break down fgs special damage in powerDI?

north hatch
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onyx sentinel
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I'm sorry but that's hilarious

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psyker roleplay

north hatch
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I think this guy has the same issue as you

summer prairie
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does Power DI work with the update

onyx sentinel
north hatch
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Apparently it's something to do with spatial audio

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Is power DI better than scoreboard

fresh dune
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this fit on the French psyker goes so hard and fits very well tbh lol

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i dont like the psyker gasmask tbh

verbal thistle
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@plucky flax Ready

summer prairie
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it's less convenient but more detailed for some things

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you can just run both though

north hatch
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I was thinking more for performance cause scoreboard has memory leak issues

plucky flax
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@split lance

north hatch
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And animation events is buggy

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For me

summer prairie
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Power DI has terrible performance if you don't disable autosaving during runs

onyx sentinel
split lance
plucky flax
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No.

north hatch
plucky flax
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Communicate with >yes and >no chadgryn

split lance
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i dont have that mod

plucky flax
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Okay I can talk with you if you want.

spice flame
north hatch
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Why say many word when one word do trick

plucky flax
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Yes and No are most based.

spice flame
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Yes

maiden hornet
late night
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how do you spam deimos poke

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saw someone doing it today

spice flame
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Light attack -> heavy attack

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Rince and repeat

late night
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it wasnt heavies tho

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it was repeated lights

pine shore
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Light > block

late night
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ah

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thanks

spice flame
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Ah that poke

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Eh

north hatch
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Idk I feel like l1 h2 is just better than l1 block no?

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Damage wise

late night
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he was doing it insanely fast

north hatch
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Damn

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Maybe he had a macro?

late night
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like to the point where it was spamming pokes

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idk

north hatch
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That's interesting

plucky flax
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He's just french and into fencing.

summer prairie
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probably macro l1 qq

hollow current
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😮‍💨

acoustic osprey
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left click electro such a good havoc cheese

late night
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empyric resolve good or bad?

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on purgatus

unreal wasp
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Having the mastery skin is cool and all but I think I prefer my giant Obscurus

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Half because the blade isn't red and half because of the golden crossguard

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Think on things like swords and the pickaxe specifically, red paint on the blade (and the entire pickaxe) is icky

stuck bridge
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oops i did a 16 with no talents oopsie

north hatch
mental grail
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Bro these fucking gunners

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I am straight up not having a good time

unreal wasp
wise mural
unreal wasp
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SG + DD FGS HandsUp

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Can't really use VS + WB like I can using Illisi but better at fighting mixed hordes in melee sadcatthumbsup

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And though I am a Flaming Shriek enjoyer, I don't really want to go back to Illisi just to easily activate it

wind spruce
plucky flax
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Pox gas cancer I need zealots for this. SadgeCry

mental grail
pale bison
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what are the best options for great sword ? like build weapon combo

mental grail
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I run it with a gun

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accatran recon or bpistol

pale bison
wind spruce
maiden hornet
quick tulip
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FGS is honestly good enough out of the box that you can run it with anything, you just need to know what your other stuff is and how it would interact with FGS

wind spruce
pale bison
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hmm then i shall try gaze build first then bubble

wind spruce
quick tulip
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I personally am so used to gaze that I had an easier time with it than bubble but

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that's just because I love playing Psylot

wind spruce
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@split lance good delete, bad build

split lance
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this is the right pic

spice sand
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Is anyone experiencing a bug with the greatsword, where it's constantly trigger the "power up" effect every time you kill an enemy, instead of just when it crosses the 1st and 2nd lvl threshold?

split lance
quick tulip
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I'm honestly just shocked you picked kinetic flayer over kinetic resonance

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KF is, and I say this as a KF lover, bad

split lance
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i didnt use BB once

strong gulch
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It's not an EP BB build and KF was buffed.

quick tulip
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was it?

strong gulch
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Yes

quick tulip
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how so?

split lance
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KF been cracked since day one hmph

strong gulch
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It only procs on specials, elites and monstrosities.

quick tulip
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yes it's fantastic

quick tulip
split lance
quick tulip
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surprise, its been months since I did left tree

split lance
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it was addressed like a week after KF was a thing

strong gulch
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It's been a awhile. A couple ago??

quick tulip
strong gulch
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It's not a super new change but it's also not super old.

wind spruce
split lance
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super nice when you kill 2 elites for the price of one

thin finch
wind spruce
quick tulip
split lance
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i blew my load 2x

wind spruce
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Stop FUCKING picking kf

quick tulip
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if it's a choice between the two for one single talent point

thin finch
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I'm gonna take KF just to piss you off

split lance
quick tulip
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I'd be sad you did if only so they buff it again due to pickrate

split lance
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my bad

strong gulch
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KF is not the hugest of damage boosts but it is meaningful, quite nice for if you don't use your blitz much, have a fast hitting weapon, or just want some emotional support gambling.

wind spruce
wind spruce
thin finch
strong gulch
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KR and KF are largely for different builds

wind spruce
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KF is just straight bad

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Especially on havoc

split lance
wind spruce
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"Oooh it helps monstrosity dps"

split lance
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im not taking out brain burst

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ever

wind spruce
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Mf havoc monstrosities hit over 100k health

split lance
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couldnt pay me to use bb

thin finch
quartz barn
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Any blitz aside from ep smite is useless on havoc

wind spruce
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If your team takes 45s to kill a monstrosity KF will do 5% damage at max

split lance
strong gulch
wind spruce
split lance
thin finch
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It is better than sex I tell you

wind spruce
split lance
wind spruce
#

💋

split lance
#

im gonna touch you

wind spruce
#

Yeah but that touch will have like 350 ping

quick tulip
#

thanks everyone I needed that laugh

split lance
quartz barn
#

Wtf why do i get called out

split lance
quartz barn
quick tulip
#

we love nut

gloomy magnet
#

sus

split lance
split lance
#

i did get most kills tho so maybe im the one that carried Thinkgers

thin finch
plucky flax
quartz barn
#

Bubble gaming

plucky flax
#

I also have to remove perfect timing for extra toughness node just for safety.

#

But you should run perfect timing tbh.

quartz barn
#

Love how it went from no skill player to must have

strong gulch
#

Maybe we will grow again.

#

no bubble grey weapons

quartz barn
#

I still have the starter weapons chadgryn

quartz barn
#

Cant upgrade them lmao

plucky flax
#

It's most important to survive though so for me it's worth it to get extra 15 flat toughness.

clear heath
#

battle med being relevant now is the crazy

plucky flax
strong gulch
split lance
plucky flax
#

You can drop it though.

#

It's safety if I am caught and have to block.

split lance
#

yeah

thin finch
runic kiln
#

any info on weird shit with fgs yet? like does having half a bar give any bonus? or you need a full 1 or 2 bars to benefit from more damage?

split lance
plucky flax
#

I prefer more mobility melee in 30+

#

You can play it up to 30 though.

runic kiln
#

honestly when it gets harder youd be better off just using a weapon taht does more, ie staves.

quick tulip
#

FGS is a bit sluggish, yeah

it do be havin' power doe

plucky flax
#

@clear heath this was 18 mins scoreboard. I threw because I got ledged. So creeping flames spam surge is still good if you're the 2nd psyker.

plucky flax
#

752k damage in 18mins not bad.

split lance
#

i literally dont pull my staff out

plucky flax
#

@cosmic sigil sorry not playing only logged in to check build. Gonna go for quick jog then have to do some work.

split lance
#

lmao

cosmic sigil
#

nice

#

how long will you run?

plucky flax
cosmic sigil
#

i'll be a scuola

plucky flax
split lance
#

lol true

cosmic sigil
#

and tonight crossfit then going the the vatican see some lights

plucky flax
#

Also just range damage though I still have more.

#

But yeah no cc.

#

So it'll be bad to play if you're the only psyker since you have to take bubble too.

split lance
#

atronomically less ranged

quartz barn
#

ive been running void for the most part

plucky flax
#

Because you were burga I was trauma.

split lance
#

yeah

plucky flax
#

So it's expected I have more range damage.

quartz barn
#

Clearing a gunner group o spawn is massive

split lance
#

oh yeah

split lance
#

but i got to steal all your fire now

wind spruce
#

drop that instead of perfect timing lol

split lance
#

have you ever used KF?

wind spruce
#

literally never

#

what does it do?

split lance
#

skissue

#

(relateable)

plucky flax
#

If you don't like it don't use it.

wind spruce
#

15% warp damage is absolutely gonna net you more mileage

plucky flax
#

You're just asking for my burga build so I gave. SadgeCry

plucky flax
#

Because of the way it works it's a lot often where it'd help you 1 shot a special

#

So you can quickly move on to other things

#

It's not always about damage in havoc

wind spruce
#

yeah but you did over 700k ranged/warpfire. That's 105k damage missed out on from perfect timing

quartz barn
#

Depends

#

If theres no more enemies

wind spruce
#

STOP

split lance
plucky flax
#

Just don't run kf then for yourself

split lance
#

thats trauma

quartz barn
#

Kf is technically better in that case

quick tulip
#

breaking down kf
not getting technical
okay?

quartz barn
#

Because faster

split lance
#

wait no

#

its surge

wind spruce
quick tulip
clear heath
#

i need to get more used to playing high havoc before i get confident without bubble

#

shooters are brutal

split lance
plucky flax
#

As I said you should only play surge as 2nd psyker

wind spruce
strong gulch
#

bubble maxxing

quick tulip
#

I'm not surprised havoc makes you leverage the team buffers

tribal echo
#

what build should i run in aurics with psyker: currently i have a BB, VS, EP build and a Assail, dome, EP build

plucky flax
#

All should work

tribal echo
#

this reminds me i also have a soulblaze build

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but i never tested how much it actually does

gritty ether
#

What would you guys say to the idea of Force Dueling Swords?

tribal echo
#

what blessings should i use on the force great sword?

runic kiln
#

tier 4 id reckon

tribal echo
#

i mean

#

like what kind lol

#

i am torn between precog and reflect

runic kiln
#

i think current meta is wrath + crit chance on dodge

main wyvern
#

do people run empowered smite?

compact cargo
tribal echo
mental grail
#

^ this is a joke

#

run ep smite in my squad and were disemboweling you with our hands

outer jungle
#

Crit is not the dump stat, correct?

icy wind
#

anyone have build for support psyker with the shield?
just started playing psyker and I found that psyker with shield help alot in heresy difficulty and stuff

runic kiln
#

shield then bottom left for warp siphon ezpz

main wyvern
#

what about dueling sword is that popular still?

#

nvm i'm never running dueling sword so i don't care

outer jungle
#

It's really good, but also pretty high skill ceiling

compact cargo
#

Mobility tank+high damage

split lance
#

Crit is very important

outer jungle
#

figured, never used the electric one since I always thought it's just a worse smite. Boy was I wrong 😅

sour goblet
#

Hi, just just to confirm. If I apply a stack of soulblaze on an enemy and somebody else kills the enemy, do I get the tough heal from soulblaze, and the chance to get warp charges from "in fire reborn"?

outer jungle
#

Same with the charges

sour goblet
#

soulstealer yes

#

That's very confusing. The descriptions imply own kills, but tons of people claim that you get the benefit even when someone else last hits the enemy with soulblaze applied.

strong gulch
#

For In Fire Reborn it the enemy doesn't have to die by the SB, just with SB applied.

#

For soulDRINKER (not soulstealer), the death seemingly has to happen in time with with the SB DOT tic.

sour goblet
strong gulch
plucky flax
#

@wind spruce actually you're right I will remove warp rider for perfect timing

#

More up time

wind spruce
#

Actually not totally insane pogryn

plucky flax
#

Still have kf it's op

#

Mfw havoc making me do weird things whatthefuck_heresy

hasty valve
#

So any concensus on what the dump stat is on inferno staff? Quell speed or damage?

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

Quell speed is increasingly vital on higher levels of havoc, especially because of how it scales on stats versus warp res which doesn't scale much at all

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Damage isn't a dump on Inferno, direct damage is actually not bad and even though 60 to 80 doesn't make a huge difference, there are scenarios where it would do something, whereas warp res just does so little

hasty valve
nocturne dust
#

Burn matters most

summer prairie
#

Without solidify it's just painful. I believe they are multiplicative with each other, so 1.85x longer tick time vs 1.295x

nocturne dust
hasty valve
#

Meanwhile the psyker guide says quell is the dump 😄

nocturne dust
#

psyker guide is wrong in a lot of strange places

#

It's written by one guy, I'd cut him some slack

hasty valve
#

yeah not dissing him ive been following it a lot

jovial gust
#

What is the difference between the Obscurus and Deimos Force Swords?

nocturne dust
#

@strong gulch man the gunners are not photogenic

nocturne dust
#

It's a good single target killer because its h2 knocks down everything but bosses, including crushers

#

it also does good damage

#

and it also kills hordes quicker than dueling sword, but of course it's not as OP as dueling sword when it comes to single targets

#

all you need to do is stab enemies in the weakspot with h2 and they'll fall over and take a bunch of damage

#

In contrast, illisi is a horde clearer (that now probably falls behind force greatsword)

#

Obscurus is the strange middle child between Illisi and Deimos

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It recently got buffed so I'm not sure how it is now (although I haven't heard good things) but before it was pretty bad and while being the 'inbetween' was actually the worst parts of Illisi and Deimos

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So, you know, I wouldn't recommend using pre-buff Obscurus, but I don't have enough information on post-buff Obscurus to really say.

jovial gust
#

The Atheneum mentions Assail Weave. What's that?

nocturne dust
#

Hit things

#

swap to assail

#

spit out assail

#

swap back

#

hit more things

marble crater
#

You should write guides

nocturne dust
#

Bascially, standard assail tactics is to spit it out quickly while fighting

jovial gust
#

So something to please those who for some reason use Assail and give up on Psykinetics Aura?

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
#

because Scrier's doesn't really need ability cooldown at all

#

and assail benefits from Scrier's a lot

jovial gust
#

And the brain burst passive is not good for Scrier's?

nocturne dust
#

BB passive? KF?

marble crater
nocturne dust
marble crater
#

That's just smart, have one place that covers everything instead of answering the same question over and over again KEKW_ogryn

nocturne dust
#

I literally only wrote it because I got tired answering Inferno questions KEKW_ogryn

#

Just tested obscurus for a bit

#

Still sucks

marble crater
#

YEP people will think you are a hero, but in reality you are just an egoistic who doesn't want to answer questions anymore. I wonder if most guides are written because of the same motivation KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
#

BECAUSE HE PURGES HERETICS

nocturne dust
jovial gust
nocturne dust
#

not recoil

#

er... hit flinch

strong gulch
#

They're even hit flinching each other.

nocturne dust
#

yeh KEKW_ogryn

jovial gust
#

I don't know which Coherency I should put on my Scrier's Gaze build...

nocturne dust
#

Normally, the crit chance cuz you're already on that side

#

Elite one kinda sucks so it's between crit or ability cooldown, and Scrier's doesn't need cooldown

#

because it gets a 10 second lingering effect after ending

#

which is longer than 10 seconds

jovial gust
#

Thank you. Elite one is the only bad choice anyways since I need 2 points to get it from Assail anyways

nocturne dust
#

Elite one wouldn't be bad if it was double or worked on bosses and specials

#

but that is not the case

marble crater
#

It's a worse vet aura staregryn

sour goblet
#

lmb

nocturne dust
#

wat about lmb

jovial gust
#

I'm now creating a Electro Staff build with the knowledge I gained from the Atheneum, but I'm in a bind since the Atheneum doesn't discredit Smite. So far I have been studying a lot of Mister E. KEKW_ogryn

grand scroll
#

How the...

nocturne dust
grand scroll
#

HOW THE HELL DID I GET 0% DAMAGE?

nocturne dust
#

you never swap to BB

#

but KF is better than never using a blitz

#

Of course, smite is better if you get easily pinched

#

but for raw DPS, KF

jovial gust
#

Thank you. Though I would love to know if there's any time I should put Smite on my build instead of BB KF, or Assail

nocturne dust
#

I mean, for raw DPS? Not unless you're going a full smite build

#

Otherwise smite is mainly a CC and safety tool

plucky flax
#

Play smite bubble spam in havoc. Its the equivalent of 'I'm support healer' or something in mmo

#

'I'm not confident enough to play so pls carry'

nocturne dust
jovial gust
#

Any suggestions with reasoning for the last point in my current build? Excluding Empathic Evasion since I don't see the value in it

nocturne dust
#

are you going EK lmb spam?

plucky flax
#

Mfw I played havoc 34 and team was like 'psyker can you use smite?'

#

I'm like no bruh I don't smite survive yourself.

jovial gust
#

Kinda. Also put points into LMB spam

nocturne dust
#

I would suggest either going full RMB or full LMB

#

LMB makes use of some RMB, but you don't really need to invest into RMB for it to work

#

I would also suggest Solidity over Puppet Master

#

Coherency range is... very meh

jovial gust
#

Then I shall go full LMB since I need to get mastery for Force Sword so I can switch to Illisi

nocturne dust
#

As for your extra point, I would actually drop Empyric Shock and perilous assault at your current level to grab warp rider

#

and then use the extra point to grab the 5% crit next to the node above warp rider

tired estuary
jovial gust
#

Thank you

nocturne dust
#

Warp Rider is more valuable than Empyric Shock because it will buff all your damage on top of also being very easy to keep at max (and even if you don't edge, it still buffs quite significantly)

#

It's an easy 10% extra damage at all times as long as you're above 50% peril

#

and the 5% crit is nice. Empyric Shock would probably be better, but that's two points and you need those for Warp Rider KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
lofty marsh
#

Empyric shock IS better for armor busting tho

#

if that's something you want from the EK staff

nocturne dust
#

For specific heavy targets, Empyric Shock is better because the boost is larger overall, but you have to build up to it first which is why it is generally worse if you have to pick between the two

#

and also, their build isn't complete enough to hit the Empyric Shock BP

#

They're too low level

#

so I'm assuming they don't have a perfect staff yet

jovial gust
#

And armor busting is the job of my melee in a LMB build, right?

nocturne dust
#

uh

#

normally what you do is switch to RMB

#

you hit them with lmb for empyric shock, then RMB until dead

#

You can use melee tho

jovial gust
#

The Deimos should work as a substitute, right?

nocturne dust
#

Very much so, yes

#

and if you decide to use melee, Empyric Shock won't help with your armor busting

raw linden
#

So on pc I played like a revolver and the fancy sword psyker, does that still work on the new updates and stuff? Haven't touched psyker in like a year

nocturne dust
#

Uh, yeah

jovial gust
#

Anything can work with skill

nocturne dust
#

Revolver is fine

#

Not sure what you mean by fancy sword buuuuuuuutt

#

Psyker has a lot of fancy swords

raw linden
#

The fencing sword or something, it had a sweet handle

nocturne dust
#

Dueling Sword?

raw linden
#

That's the one

nocturne dust
#

Dueling Sword is the most OP melee in the game currently

#

so

#

it's sitting pretty

stuck sinew
#

I would say revolver + dueling sword is a little too single target focused

raw linden
#

In a good spot then ight

nocturne dust
#

Yeah, it's not the best combo

raw linden
#

I used the Yondu mind darts for crowds that was my game plan

nocturne dust
#

but you can make it work pretty well

raw linden
#

Okay so maybe a different melee then, what's a melee for many many things?

stuck sinew
#

Yeah if you want to be a melee guy the GS is the goat

nocturne dust
#

Illisi is the old option, Force GS just got released

raw linden
#

Balling, working on Zeal rn but once she's Havoc ready I'll get on some Psyker

nocturne dust
#

and is basically better Illisi imo

raw linden
#

I miss the crazy Brian guy

nocturne dust
#

less defense tho

#

but you don't need defense on Psyker

#

pay no attention to Bubble Psyker being the Havoc meta

raw linden
#

Shield is good?

#

Bro I am not cooking when I play these games

stuck sinew
#

Maybe the real meta is the fun we have along the way

nocturne dust
#

Shield is not good outside of Havoc

#

It's okay

#

but only in Havoc does it become meta

raw linden
#

I just enjoy what I enjoy most the time, like the little self enrage thing so I can pew pew better

#

Big Iron on my hip type gameplay

nocturne dust
#

because Havoc is special and wants to kill everyone

raw linden
#

Ah

nocturne dust
#

Havoc is the new hard mode, lol

#

Bubble is good because you can get one-shot by... a lot

marble crater
radiant frigate
#

havoc meta looks very annoying tbh

#

feels like cheese

nocturne dust
#

It is a bunch of cheese, yes

#

But that's what you get with difficulty

#

Cheese rises to the top

upper sun
nocturne dust
#

THE BUBBLE META IS REEEEEEAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL

radiant frigate
#

so we must become more annoying

upper sun
#

yeah

marble crater
#

Let's all play seer and loner

upper sun
#

emperor's light is a shit modifier

lofty marsh
#

Interesting that Havoc seems to push people into building underused abilities

marble crater
#

Corruption puddles is a shit modifier

upper sun
nocturne dust
#

and Vet

lofty marsh
#

Like, picks that I would call dumb for Auric Histg are now borderline gamebreakingly strong in havoc

upper sun
#

not ogryn no

nocturne dust
upper sun
#

no u

lofty marsh
#

Stay in coherency with BoP I guess

lofty marsh
#

weird pick in anything else, borderline mandatory for havoc

nocturne dust
#

Yep, Havoc without a zealot around is painful

lofty marsh
#

It's like every modifier has a hard counter and none of them are interesting lol

nocturne dust
#

Especially when you're the only one avoiding the goop

lofty marsh
#

Purge staff push

nocturne dust
lofty marsh
#

Choke the horde, push them back

nocturne dust
#

🤷‍♂️

lofty marsh
#

Ehhh, yes and no

nocturne dust
#

Like, the only modifier with no hard counter would be 'you die immediately'

lofty marsh
#

There's a difference between no ammo pickups in CIVI w/ survivalist vet and BoP on nurgle goop

acoustic isle
#

Truthfully having reach rank 23 im starting to feel it. The conversion to a jank cover shooter

#

Why FS. Why buff gunners? Lmao

lofty marsh
#

One allieviates the issue somewhat, but the other straight up nullifies it

nocturne dust
lofty marsh
#

G U N P S Y K E R

nocturne dust
#

ew

lofty marsh
#

:)

nocturne dust
#

:(

#

I will staff you

lofty marsh
#

Yeah, it's ight, would never take it into havoc tho

jovial gust
#

I am confused as to why the Aethenum recommends Carapace Perk on LMB Surge

lofty marsh
#

or CIVI

lofty marsh
jovial gust
#

Understood

nocturne dust
#

I don't know a ton about LMB builds because I find them extremely boring

lofty marsh
#

Any more damage buffs and you can usually one bang crushers after 5 surge bolts

#

They are

#

Showertime

nocturne dust
#

but I don't remember carapace being necessary for armor busting on LMB spam

lofty marsh
#

It's not

nocturne dust
plucky flax
lusty whale
#

What ranged option are you guys running along with the 2H force sword?

plucky flax
#

Civi melee scab only is so free you can easily play gun

nocturne dust
#

I run the force GS with everything

jovial gust
#

I am confused again. The Aethenum recommends only one perk on the Vraks. Anyways, on an ammo hungry gun psyker build I should rock an all rounder melee weapon, right?

nocturne dust
#

and then promptly take it off when I'm on havoc because I have too much fun using force GS and forget to use my other stuff KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
#

What level are you at now?

jovial gust
#

22

nocturne dust
plucky flax
#

Cool. 31+ is another big jump

nocturne dust
#

The main issue is all the grinding for me

quartz barn
#

I run fgs on the gunker build because scrier + dd is good for both

nocturne dust
#

I've played way too much Darktide to get to that 25

quartz barn
#

Mfw i skipped 21 - 27

#

Thank fuck too because 25 is aids

nocturne dust
#

I don't even get assists for hosting 😭

quartz barn
#

I just got a random invite for 27

jovial gust
#

dd?

quartz barn
#

So sure?

#

Disrupt destiny

upper sun
quartz barn
#

Right keystone

upper sun
#

do it

quartz barn
#

I did tho

#

Fireteam finder moment

#

I requested to join the team but didnt get a response

#

But apparently the invites are still queued or something, because i got accepted about an hour later

#

After i ran 20 + 21 with a different group

nocturne dust
quartz barn
#

Should be yes

#

Tox bombers are rng tho

#

Same for the sniper wave (kinda)

plucky flax
#

I don't want to do my 35

quartz barn
#

Yes

plucky flax
#

Oh pog

quartz barn
#

It just says highest tier completion

plucky flax
#

I don't have to wait until reset?

nocturne dust
#

You have to wait until reset, no?

plucky flax
#

No I mean my own current map

quartz barn
#

So you can join others who have a high rank

jovial gust
#

Understood. Kinda don't have the points to get to DD yet...

cyan portal
#

@nocturne dust Just for the record, you gain about 10% dmg to DoT ticks with 100% uptime 5 stack blaze away, vs chained full charges.

plucky flax
#

I want to skip my 35 havoc conditions. Can I play someone else's 35-40 to bypass?

upper sun
#

no

quartz barn
#

Reset just updates your own rank to your highest clear afaik

upper sun
#

wait next week

plucky flax
#

So I have to get cancer. Veri fun thanks pox gas 35

nocturne dust
upper sun
nocturne dust
#

Idk, prolly the best time actually

quartz barn
#

Also if someone can pull me into a 30+ havoc later that would be appreciated

plucky flax
#

I just ask really pro players to carry me PeepoHappy

nocturne dust
#

I think the mode will become significantly more dead the more time continues on

upper sun
#

unironically the best way is to wait for as many people to get their earned ranks so you have more options with different hosts

quartz barn
#

Pubs are alright be super hit or miss

#

Oggy on the team is always scuffed lmao

upper sun
#

WRONG

quartz barn
#

Not on my end Sitgryn

plucky flax
#

Psykers eating gud

quartz barn
#

16k dmg man wtf

upper sun
#

smh everyone came crawling back

#

gg no smite
gg no trauma
gg no bubble

#

LOOK WHOS LAUGHING NOW

nocturne dust
quartz barn
#

I mean

nocturne dust
#

How come you're never on psyker, clad?

quartz barn
#

People were fine with psykers that were good when hm twins was a thing

plucky flax
#

Clad abandoned psyker for zealot big sword yesterday smh

upper sun
quartz barn
#

When theyre good atleast

upper sun
#

i forgot how to play psyker 😭

plucky flax
upper sun
#

playing a new weapon on a class i havent played in a while was ruff

plucky flax
#

You get touched by overhead you die edition

#

Watch your toes Pogryn

upper sun
#

zealot gives me the freedon to eat as many overheads as i want 😋

nocturne dust
upper sun
#

if ur blocking first overhead doesnt proc until death lmao

quartz barn
#

Like bruh

#

Then just did a pub, got really close to a clear, asked to merge the team and cleared the second try

polar tangle
#

i think they need to retexture this outfit lol KEKW_ogryn

brazen tundra
#

now im not the most experienced psyker or theorycrafter

but this greatsword is like crack and i need tips on what perks to try to make sure i grab for melee/frontline-ish setups

plucky flax
#

Also we had exclusivity to ds4 back then

#

Big boss damage

nocturne dust
#

Izzat true?

upper sun
#

yes

nocturne dust
#

I'd test it but I don't care about zealot shenanigans KEKW_ogryn

latent hill
#

So… what does cleave do for the greatsword?

#

Does it just increase the amount of enemies hit?

#

Or does it also do the damage?

upper sun
outer jungle
#

When you say that Inforno Warp Res is dump stat, just how much are we talking? 😅

latent hill
upper sun
#

theres a fully stacked medicae right past the elevator

jovial gust
#

I CAN'T BREATHE

weary crane