psyker-class

[patent mango]

new name dropped: force falchion

[fresh dune]

Its probably this

[clear heath]

You can special snipe anyways even with warp res dump

[mental grail]

those already existed

[patent mango]

for the force gs

[mental grail]

they are used by space marines and are used in pairs

[fresh dune]

I had like 12% warp res on my inferno staff and it barely increased my peril lmao, warp res scales very low compared to the rest imo or just has a high floor

[zinc phoenix]

That’s so stupid 😂

Why does everything space marine always have to be dumb

[patent mango]

cause they're goofy

[zinc phoenix]

Lemme guess do they also wolf on their wolf while they wolf with their wolf falcion!!!

[fresh dune]

Space marines grew on me after sm2

[zinc phoenix]

Like mold

[fresh dune]

Lol

What psyker setups are yall running for havoc btw?

[mental grail]

They look slightly different.

[fresh dune]

Im gonna try to use brain burst shield with fire staff

But maybe i should also level up surge for smite

[long wharf]

wait why is my weapon mastery already maxed for this sword?

oh it's not, I was looking at the normal force sword

[zinc phoenix]

I think a lot of us had that experience 😂

[mental grail]

I got every force stave maxed out, except for voidstrike—the one I used the most.

[zinc phoenix]

You can just spend plas and cash to max em all

[long wharf]

and I still have 4 extra mastery points for surge staff

[zinc phoenix]

25 green = max

[mental grail]

I legit had dozens of hours using the voidstrike staff, only for hadron to give me 0 mastery.

[long wharf]

common FartShart, it's not that hard to fix

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-explode-gif-25528415

[zinc phoenix]

Or burn melkbucks for mastery

[long wharf]

momentum seems like an interesting blessing choice for the greatsword

[pulsar hazel]

well we failed the havoc because one of our guys baby raged and then we got royally fucked by the director but thanks for the advice yall, the fgs suggestions definitely felt noticable

[mental grail]

momentum is only good if you want to dive into hordes and not die

[long wharf]

I mean, who doesn't?

[fresh dune]

I think the krieger torso for psyker (the blue one) will look good with navigator helmet)

But i’ll wait until thursday if theres an item drop

[mental grail]

I don't need it, I can dodge and block correctly

[pulsar hazel]

I thought that too but you gotta remember that more crits also does equal more procs of your on crit talents some of which increase survivability, also momentum only helps mid horde, which is the last place i usually struggle with toughness in

[long wharf]

no need to block when you can dodge effectively

[mental grail]

but if you want that crutch, take momentum on Mk8 paired with wrath.

[zinc phoenix]

More crits for empathic evasion is life and death

[long wharf]

very true

did our skill tree change at all?

[pulsar hazel]

sometimes you wanna block just to get your dodges back especially with fgs, it's a good thing psykers have the best block in the game

[mental grail]

the stab on mark 8 is tied to the block push

[hearty laurel]

agreed. it helped me a bunch in this case. was using momentum and riposte since i was still tryin' to figure out what worked with what.

[clear heath]

I think syllo ran momentum out of desperation when we were doing that awful havoc run with pox gas

[hearty laurel]

(skip to 0:52)

[clear heath]

if the havoc conditions get horrible enough, i see the value

[pulsar hazel]

I get that

frankly with pox gas it's best to find a premade with comms

the last game i had with pox gas our shitass zealot ignored the gas, ran off, died

4 times

i probably shouldve seen the writing on the wall when i saw them put critical damage% perk on their evis

oh well

[long wharf]

oh hey, MM looks more usable now

[mental grail]

perfect usage showcase for momentum

safety net in critical moments

[pulsar hazel]

underrated but gloryhunter on bistol can be so useful

[inland berry]

fuck it

im running BB

[mental grail]

havoc pox gas with randoms is legitimately CIA level torture

[pulsar hazel]

I tried it just now to test the build and no matter what I couldn't carry 2.5 bad players 😭

2.5 because the level 380 left 4 mins in

after flaming us for not reviving them deep in pox gas 💀

[blissful pulsar]

I've never really run gaze psyker and trying it with the new sword. Unsure what's a good range weapon to combo with it so went with columnus V for boss dmg

[mental grail]

I don't think I've completed havoc with a full team yet 💀

[blissful pulsar]

Any recommendations?

[pulsar hazel]

you dont need boss damage with the new fgs. its amazing with unyielding% and gaze

[mental grail]

someone is going to bail guaranteed

[pulsar hazel]

i run bistol with i think unarmored, maniac, puncture, and your choice (gloryhunter for me)

[blissful pulsar]

las or mag pistol?

[pulsar hazel]

bolt pistol = bistol

[inland berry]

god what am i doing

[pulsar hazel]

pronounced beestol

[inland berry]

ok, bb for monstrosity damage, y/n

[blissful pulsar]

Is that actually any good compared to the mag? I thought it was just mag but worse

[mental grail]

Rifle = Vraks IAG, Accatran Recon Mk XII.

Pistol = Bolt Pistol, Accatran Laspistol

[pulsar hazel]

mag?

im tired am i forgetting an acronym

[blissful pulsar]

revolver

[mental grail]

boltpistol clears

[pulsar hazel]

i like not revolving forever, extra ammo, and gloryhunter

with DD bistol is very good

revolver is good but I found that you physically will not have the time to reload it on havoc lol

[mental grail]

Zarona is alr, but bistol deals with cara easier imo

[pulsar hazel]

I ran fgs with voidstrike as well and it worked a lot better than expected

bistol isnt good against cara tbh

[long wharf]

feels really weird having a psyker build without a keystone

[blissful pulsar]

Ah I have no interest in Havoc, just sticking to Auric and treating havoc like I did weaves lmao

[pulsar hazel]

waste of ammo especially with fgs in hand

[mental grail]

stagger is more helpful

[fierce frost]

this is my exact thought to run with fgs. what talents did you use?

[pulsar hazel]

havoc is so fucking fun bro

[molten prawn]

Im really liking shredder as a backup toughness regen and empathic proccing

[blissful pulsar]

Yea but using hte party finder is a chooooore

[molten prawn]

staggers and kills trash shooters

[nocturne dust]

Eh, Havoc is not that fun.

[pulsar hazel]

it was a voidstrike no ability build using warp siphon to float 24% bonus damage and toughness regen

[patent mango]

weaves are so back

[pulsar hazel]

only melee blessing i grabbed was 10% attack speed

talent

sory im tired

[nocturne dust]

I would say it's just unreasonably difficult at higher levels. Which makes sense but is not my thing.

[strong gulch]

Not havoc ready. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d9e5829-597c-440b-9f52-48451863d61f/no-keystone-fire-sword-its-bad-but-play-it-anyways

[mental grail]

Playing havoc is russian roulette except if you lose you get paired with randoms with the intelligence of escaped malaysian monkeys

[pulsar hazel]

havoc with randoms sucks butt out of the ass

but with friends its great

problem is this is psyker chat only 1/3 of us have those

[blissful pulsar]

Is there any idea if the rewards are weorth it? Like if there's a sizable chunk for doing one mission a week I'll see about trying it

[mental grail]

incredibly generous of you

[pulsar hazel]

i was counting familial bonds

and pets

[blissful pulsar]

I have a lot of darktide friends but none of them will touch auric, let alone havoc t.t

[pulsar hazel]

crazy thing about havoc is my friends that struggled in auric maelstrum are RAPIDLY improving going thru havoc tiers

[marble crater]

Who needs friends, when you have siblings

[pulsar hazel]

they improved more since havoc dropped than weeks doing auric with me

[flat moat]

Hi has anyone made a force greatsword build that works with a las/bolt pistol?

[pulsar hazel]

sometimes they even beat me

[pulsar hazel]

ive been running that, im still revising the build consider it draft 2, lemme put it on gameslantern for you

[inland berry]

im gonna try a vraks for monstrosity damage

and go full crit

[pulsar hazel]

fugck i dont remember which mk of fgs i used

which one is the default one from brunts armory 😭

[inland berry]

8

[flat moat]

Las pistol I think was the 2?

[pulsar hazel]

thanks bro i am a little spupid

[long wharf]

jesus the range on this thing is stupid

[radiant ice]

I don't think that's how you're meant to hold that

[zinc phoenix]

Standard gunker would do it for you

And then a bistol

[nocturne dust]

no idea, but I doubt it

[zinc phoenix]

If I weren’t crutching so hard on trauma to save completely fucked situations I’d probably try a bistol build 😂

[nocturne dust]

I already have unreasonable amounts of resources, no reason to do havoc

for them

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah idk why the reward boxes are resources

[inland berry]

i don't think it should not be resources though

[zinc phoenix]

Anyone who is doing high level havoc is not at all gonna care about that 😂

[zinc phoenix]

I’d much prefer bragging rights rewards

[clear heath]

i still want resources

[inland berry]

its important to get rewards for this stuff

otherwise no one will do it

[mental grail]

fellow psi-veil enjoyer 🤝

[radiant ice]

All the psi-veils are really cool

I love them

[rich spindle]

Havoc 26 with the corruption goo was pretty hard, beacon zealot felt required

[radiant ice]

Honestly I've been bouncing between 20-21 for a little bit

Cause my 21 is always extra gunners and extra snipers

With goo

It's rough

[pulsar hazel]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da5d0e2-6598-47cb-a30e-1104421ea058/fgs-bistol-revision-2

[rich spindle]

Anyone up past 30 yet

[pulsar hazel]

its better than revision 1 and i carried many games with that lol

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah no kidding it gets mental up there

[radiant ice]

SOme people are maxed already

So yeah

[pulsar hazel]

altho im happy for any advice

[thick carbon]

is it just me, or does the new force sword randomly lose charge while killing shit?

[pulsar hazel]

it loses charge if you dont kill shit but ive never seen that happen outside of whiffed special attempts

[radiant ice]

All powered weapons lose the charge if hit

Dodge 🤓

[pulsar hazel]

and abuse pushes + overpowered psyker blocks when out of dodges

i see too many new players just 180 and run away when faced with a big threat only to get insta butt slapped its so funny

ppl allergic to pushing in this game

[zinc phoenix]

But do they have the no down at 40 tag

[radiant ice]

Push, backdodge-slide, repeat

[radiant ice]

Not that I've seen XD

[zinc phoenix]

Anyone who has that tag is truly next level

[rich spindle]

I have ptsd from popping from force sword push attacks

[pulsar hazel]

only the 2nd stage push drains peril

first stage jerk off motion doesnt

spam it at your ogryns nether regions

[radiant ice]

I don't think either do now

[pulsar hazel]

nah they do

[nocturne dust]

I wonder what percentage of the playerbase even has ASS

[pulsar hazel]

2nd stage popped me

XD

[nocturne dust]

you'd think it'd be a lot

[zinc phoenix]

It ain’t high

[radiant frigate]

empty PA does nothing

[nocturne dust]

but lots of people don't even touch aurics

[radiant frigate]

when it hits a target it does

[pulsar hazel]

inch resting

[rich spindle]

Interesting

[zinc phoenix]

Go down into the lower difficulty levels and people are proud of dedicated adept

[rich spindle]

Inch resting

[nocturne dust]

I am too

[radiant frigate]

reject best title

[patent mango]

how the frick is there only 2 parties in party finder

[radiant ice]

Honestly I like Dedicated Adept cause I like Mechanicus

[nocturne dust]

I earned that title

fair and square

[thick carbon]

I've seen it bounce up and down like a rally car's tachometer

[pulsar hazel]

gotta get them on auric heresy cus its so much more fun than regular damnation

[rich spindle]

I swear the las pistol push gives you peril tho even on whiff

[radiant ice]

Only thing that kind of has a Mechanicus feel, and a related unlock requirement

[nocturne dust]

Hard disagree

[pulsar hazel]

how so? regular damnation means worse players and no fun modifiers

[nocturne dust]

I actually like damnation because it actually has pauses in the onslaught

[radiant ice]

Honestly my favourite is Auric Damnation, but not Mael

[thick carbon]

and it'll play the noise like it's ready to Moonlight GS but then it'll go back down

[radiant ice]

Cause I like the no pauses but without two pages of stupid modifiers XD

[pulsar hazel]

pauses in the onslaught?? but then i have nothing to left click </3

[inland berry]

guys SG just aint doing it for me

[nocturne dust]

Difficulty being 'all the spawns all the time' is bad

[pulsar hazel]

im the opposite where i never do aurdamn i just go on aurmael unless its a shitass poop modifier

[radiant ice]

I bought this game to slay hordes, and slay hordes I shall

[frail pasture]

I looove Auric Maelstrom, its so chaotic

[fathom adder]

Would be pretty funny if Alt+F4'ers had theirs revoked

[frail pasture]

I cant go back to non maelstrom auric

[rich spindle]

R u taking disrupt destiny

[frail pasture]

Im addicted to the chaos

[inland berry]

yes

[rich spindle]

What weapon u usin

[inland berry]

gs and vraks

currently

but ive tried a bunch

[pulsar hazel]

i play aurher with my poopshit friends who run 61% damage weapons because they're too big and greedy to upgrade them and forget to dodge crusher overheads

[nocturne dust]

It's a shame damnation is just too weak for me

[rich spindle]

Are you getting melted easily or what’s the problem

[inland berry]

partly

but also it doesnt feel like enough reward to throw away bubble

im trying to find a consistent source of monstrosity dps

[rich spindle]

Unloading vraks into a monster should do it

[fathom adder]

DumFernus Recon if you're using Assail to save ammo in between

[inland berry]

is there like, a big fuck you button of a gun?

[nocturne dust]

Vraks is actually better than recon

and is the best boss dps psyker has

[marble crater]

My consistent boss dps are my teammates

[nocturne dust]

by a lot

[rich spindle]

It’s a pretty hard build to play. You can’t be hesitating or spamming lights

[nocturne dust]

bolter

which we don't have

[inland berry]

back to bol-damn it

i guess i just rely on teammates

[rich spindle]

Recon lasgun might feel better to you

I like the laspistol with the greatsword

[nocturne dust]

Recon Lasgun does have more ammo and less recoil

but that's not 'f u' button material

[inland berry]

are the shotguns any good?

[nocturne dust]

Bossing staff wheeeeeennnnn

[tawny bane]

Revolver can kind of be a chunky deleter, but it’s definitely not the Bolter

[nocturne dust]

They're a choice.

[inland berry]

what im really trying to achieve is just being able to clutch if necessary

[tawny bane]

Psyker has bolt pistol too right?

[nocturne dust]

You can scrounge up a workable build with them but they're by no means meta.

[nocturne dust]

yes

[fathom adder]

Voidbeam Staff next update, trust me my uncle works at Sweden

[nocturne dust]

Embrace your staves

love them

learn from them

[thorn cedar]

nothing is gonna clutch for you

[fringe garden]

Gunkers are heretics

[thorn cedar]

you gotta make it yourself

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

and of course

[inland berry]

fuck it

fire trauma it is

[nocturne dust]

set everything on fire

[radiant frigate]

nuh uh

[inland berry]

wait

[frail pasture]

Yeah I just apply full stacks of brittle with my inferno staff and let the Zealots oneshot the bosses

[inland berry]

if i run fire trauma i'll need creeping flames wont i

[nocturne dust]

for DPS? Factually, yes

[radiant frigate]

lingering burnination that allows you to conserve ammo and stab-shank-murder-kill bosses more gooderer

true fact

[nocturne dust]

less damage tho

[fathom adder]

Yeah, partly because Trauma generates peril really fast, partly because (IIRC) creeping flames will apply more DoT ticks above the usual cap

[nocturne dust]

and we already have good ammo conservation cuz assail

[thorn cedar]

bigger mag, faster reload, more ammo

[nocturne dust]

in fact why use gun when assail

assailier assail assails assailily

[radiant frigate]

assail not good at conserving ammo vs boss

[inland berry]

...shock staff?

[nocturne dust]

no need to conserve ammo when dumping mags tho

[inland berry]

someone help im going in circles here

[zinc phoenix]

I just staff lmb bosses if I’m not stabbin em

[nocturne dust]

and bosses are mag dumps

[zinc phoenix]

Bosses are zealots problem 🧠

[nocturne dust]

EK and Inferno staff are decent on bosses

[rich spindle]

Fire trauma with kinetic resonance and knife

[zinc phoenix]

But really tho I melee them

[nocturne dust]

Trauma sucks, hit it with a sword

[inland berry]

gsword is mandatory lmao

[fringe garden]

The greatswords are a decent option for bosses now. Fills a nice hole Psykers had in their kit before

[nocturne dust]

still a hole really

no bossing staff

[rich spindle]

Would be hard for me to clutch with a greatsword

[fringe garden]

I mean, yeah, but it like, puts something in it

[nocturne dust]

0/10

Fatshark gib

[fathom adder]

Peril? Also Gun shoots what you click on, Assail does whatever the fuck it wants (I put the cursor on an enemy 10m away and the shards still fly into the floor after 5m), locking on and throwing with RMB generates even more Peril and still takes its sweet fucking time about it

[nocturne dust]

bossing staff

[fringe garden]

Closest we got is inferno, yeah?

[inland berry]

a bossing staff would be idea

ideal

[nocturne dust]

quell

[nocturne dust]

yep

[radiant frigate]

beam staff when

[nocturne dust]

no

Darktide give own unique bossing staff

[radiant frigate]

deathbringer laserpointer

[nocturne dust]

Beam staff dumb

[rich spindle]

Laser pointer that makes giant psychic cat come smack the boss

[nocturne dust]

Unless real beam staff that just annihilates everything down a hallway

[nocturne dust]

but then that's just voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

they say while reloading their gun which takes longer

[radiant frigate]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/i7hBP5U-PiM

[rigid mortar]

So what does finesse do? Is it speed?

[fathom adder]

Nah I usually say it when melee comes along (melee always comes along)

[fathom adder]

Bonus damage from crits and weak spots

[nocturne dust]

assail staggers

[fringe garden]

Finesse fucks

[radiant frigate]

finesse as in, weapon base stat?
attack speed and crit/headshot damage

[flat moat]

Does this perk work with the greatswords swing attack?

[radiant frigate]

doubt

[fathom adder]

Eventually, when/if it decides to hit what you need it to

[radiant frigate]

if it did then the one blessing is truly worthless (still kinda worthless though)

[rich spindle]

soublaze crit not working on the cleave is so funny

[fringe garden]

What do you MEAN?! A guaranteed crit every 20 seconds is obviously a well thought out perk. Who wouldn't want that

I feel like sometimes the devs make meme blessings just to mess with us

[raven mountain]

I mean, what are you not killing with even a partially charged attack?

[fathom adder]

I always thought it was a holdover from RNG-based crafting, needing to fill the pool with chaff to keep you chasing the actually good Blessings

[rich spindle]

I don’t even know how much better a crit is

[fringe garden]

Blazing Spirit exists just to make us imagine how fun it would be to have a melee that applies soulblaze.

[nocturne dust]

dodge

[main wyvern]

Chat should I use the crit perk for voidstrike with surge, or should I just get 25% damage on something

[fringe garden]

crit is pretty standard

with flak, I think

[nocturne dust]

yep

[rich spindle]

Honestly I think I’m shooting a fully charge cleave roughly every 20s

[inland berry]

i need to stop running from bubble shield lmao

[rich spindle]

I don’t bother if it isn’t fully charged

[fathom adder]

Greatsword doesn't have that many

let it reset
I use all these things, my point is that Assail behavior still pisses me off sometimes with how random it is

[zinc phoenix]

I run if the area under it is all goop

The fucking gooooooop

[raven mountain]

The problem with melee soulblaze is that anything you kill doesn't get set on fire (so doesn't spread--even when the spread is bad).

Then, 4 stacks of blaze isn't amazing on its own. The only thing you are stacking soulblaze on melee with is a monster.

[bitter walrus]

What blessings on greatsword are recommended?

[zinc phoenix]

I may change my zealot’s name to InsaneGoopDrinker

[north hatch]

Fear me for I have a floating gun https://i.imgur.com/2Gbxyqz.jpeg

[bitter walrus]

Damn

[rich spindle]

I prefer the consistency of a damage perk

[fringe garden]

If you're taking surge then you like gambling

[marble crater]

Wrath and Shred/Riposte/Deflector

[fringe garden]

I mean, to some degree

Might as well go all in

[marble crater]

I like momentum, because it's comfy

[inland berry]

i do too

[rich spindle]

Shred seems a top pick to me

[north hatch]

I feel like deflector overall would feel less good on the great sword but I was wondering if it was still meta like on regular force swords

[fringe garden]

It isn't meta on the force swords, they need the blessing space to make their damage good

[zinc phoenix]

If you’re doing havoc you want deflector

[rich spindle]

Not really, I think it’s a bit of a crutch

[fringe garden]

Though plenty of people do choose it, still

[marble crater]

I avoid deflector, because I don't want to develop a habit

[north hatch]

Illsi's horde clear is fine with just slaughterer

But idk about obscurus

[zinc phoenix]

Deflector is whatever in AM, in havoc I like being able to right click instead of just dying

[fringe garden]

Greatsword doesn't really need damage, so it's kind of a "take whatever makes you happy" sorta deal.

[inland berry]

i avoid deflector because my understanding is wrath is basically mandatory and i want momentum

[fringe garden]

Wrath is mandatory unless you're doing SG with Warp Splitting imo. Then you could make a case to not take it

[rich spindle]

I played without wrath and it was fine

On auric mael

[clear heath]

People are only arguing for wrath on high havoc

[zinc phoenix]

I think it’s ok without wrath you just end up using your staff more

[north hatch]

Warp splitting?

[clear heath]

because hitmass buff makes it stupid hard to cleave

[fringe garden]

100% cleave scaling with peril

right hand side, midway down

[carmine agate]

hmm cant decide on a staff with gs

[flat moat]

For a scriers build, what aura should you take?

[zinc phoenix]

Crit

[rich spindle]

I like the crit aura

[zinc phoenix]

More crit always

[north hatch]

The cool down one is the best of the 3 auras if you're doing BB scriers/smite scriers

But crit for assail

[carmine agate]

how does gs assail work out?

[inland berry]

surprisingly well

[north hatch]

Pretty similarly to any other weapon and assail

[inland berry]

i thought it would overlap but it doesn't really

[carmine agate]

hmm i never really used assail much b4. gotta try it sometime

[zinc phoenix]

My biggest problem with taking assail rn is it means I can’t take psyk aura for more bubble more faster

[north hatch]

Assail is super fun

Make sure to aim high so it headshots

[carmine agate]

do u lmb more or rmb more?

[inland berry]

is bb gaze actually a thing?

[patent mango]

they should make a new force greatsword mark that doesnt whisper things to you

[north hatch]

Yeah but you don't ever use BB ever really

[rich spindle]

It felt like assail was stealing from force sword power and force sword kills were stealing from assail warp kill buffs. But I think I just need to play with it more

[north hatch]

You just go that side cause of a node that gives more scriers cooldown

[zinc phoenix]

They should make a GS mark voiced by the ying yang twins

[north hatch]

You can pull it out and right click to charge peril and use it on the occasional sniper but that's it

[flat moat]

Is this perk worth taking smite over assail? Making a scrier great sword build.

[zinc phoenix]

It’s an extremely good perk

[north hatch]

Ya it's really good

[zinc phoenix]

One of the best in the game

[bitter walrus]

It’s damn good

[raven mountain]

If you're using assail for ranged, it's arguable, but that passive is one of the strongest in the game.

[flat moat]

kk

[north hatch]

Actually though how does it compare to vets one which is a flat 6 second reduction?

[bitter walrus]

Helps everyone spam ults more

[raven mountain]

If you're just taking assail because you need to move down the tree, I'd rather go smite or BB

[rich spindle]

That perk is stronger than all the giant icon auras lol

[north hatch]

Wait is it a flat 6 secs

I forgor

[raven mountain]

Veteran is 6s for yourself.

[north hatch]

Ye ok I remember

[raven mountain]

Psyker is like 1-2s for everyone in the team.

[north hatch]

Same logic for smite scriers but it's just if you think you want the CC

You just go that way for psykenetic aura

[inland berry]

EP or DD?

[north hatch]

DD cause scriers is gun build

[raven mountain]

Smite allows you to go Malefic AND Psykinetic.

[carmine agate]

oo do i change malefic momentum to it? using gs + zappy staff

[raven mountain]

BB gets free damage for a single talent, but you lose malefic.

[north hatch]

EP is kinda not great I think it's only really strong for smite/shriek build

[raven mountain]

It's fine enough on Assail too

[flat moat]

Also should I take this and this or build out to a faster quell speed?

[north hatch]

I feel like for assail just run DD no?

[restive cave]

Not sure how well smite synergizes with fgs though

[inland berry]

is it.... is it worth it to drop perfect timing and mettle for keystone

[north hatch]

Which one was perfect timing

[inland berry]

and run the cd keystone?

[raven mountain]

On Psyker, half the time you don't think about your Blitz, only what it allows for. The other half of the time, you're building around your blitz, and that's what matters.

[north hatch]

And which one was mettle

[restive cave]

Yeah that's fair

[inland berry]

the two really strong crit ones

[north hatch]

Ye but specifics

Cause I don't remember node name

[inland berry]

movement toughness and warp damage on crit

[north hatch]

Also psyker keystones are really good and I feel like you can't really play keystone less psyker like you can with keystone less vet

[rich spindle]

Post ur tree

[raven mountain]

It's a yes, but. I like EP for giving me more assails and for giving the whole team a bunch of toughness on spam. And it's free peril casts. DD is more damage, EP is a bit of utility and comfiness.

[north hatch]

Wait EP gave toughness to teammates?

Didn't know that, won't make me use it but it's neat

[raven mountain]

Psychic Leeching

[north hatch]

Ohhh right

[analog agate]

Take a keystone

[zinc phoenix]

This is a wacky ass build I am thinking of running in havoc 25 https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9da5de93-3588-43d0-8b00-1367829af65b/weird-bubble-assail-thing-2

[radiant frigate]

curious setup

[inland berry]

im building it out lmao

[primal radish]

so which blessings are best on the greatsword? is crit a good modifier on the GS at all

[inland berry]

im trying to figure out points

warp rider is.... probably not necessary

[raven mountain]

Every EP empowerd blitz gives toughness, and you get more EP charges by throwing them into waves of enemies. It's more powerful than it gets credit for, but it's not like the best.

[north hatch]

Warp rider is

Super steong

Also guns or staves

Cause idk shit about stave

[raven mountain]

Wait, Warp Rider is wholly necessary on nearly any Psyker build, lol

[north hatch]

Warp rider is like one of your mandatory nodes

[raven mountain]

It's raw damage even at 0% peril

[zinc phoenix]

Idk kinda a skip imo

[raven mountain]

scaling up to 20% at 100% (which you can spam at with Warp Unbound and Scrier's)

[rich spindle]

I would drop the nodes to the right of the cooldown aura. You really need the toughness on warp kill node at the top

And a keystone

[zinc phoenix]

You’re paying 2 perks for it on most builds

[wind spruce]

It's 0% damage at 0 peril

[zinc phoenix]

That’s expensive

[north hatch]

Wait but guns or staves

Also drop perfect timing

[inland berry]

guns

[raven mountain]

Did they change that? Used to be.

[north hatch]

Perfect timings only really great for assail

[wind spruce]

Yeah they changed it

[north hatch]

Wait so you want brain burst and bubble?

Or are you fine with just using an entirely different build

[quick tulip]

Psyker has a lot of power flexibility in their nodes so warp rider is 100% optional if you know where you get your breakpoints and how you operate around peril

[inland berry]

Im trying to figure out my setup, the only truly mandatory parts are fgs

[quick tulip]

with that said, does Warp Rider effect the FGS slash?

[thin finch]

truly we are wizard

[zinc phoenix]

Breakpoints are gamer astrology imo

[north hatch]

What's fgs again

[quick tulip]

I mean they're real but go off

[inland berry]

greatsword

[raven mountain]

Well, for what it's worth, activating your fgs special gives 50% peril or so.

[north hatch]

Oh

[ripe obsidian]

I just got booted from a mission, and the game tells me, "You are prohibited from starting another mission until the previous one ends." Game. You kicked me out.

[north hatch]

Right

[zinc phoenix]

Also everything I thought I knew about playing vet was brutally smashed today so 😂

[rich spindle]

My advice would be to drop bubble and embrace flame shriek spam

[raven mountain]

So you're always getting something, even if it doesn't meet a breakpoint.

[ripe obsidian]

Let me back in.

[inland berry]

im leaning towards BB because i need SOMETHING for monstrosities

[broken carbon]

they’re significantly less important for psyker, but zealot and vet need to worry about BPs a lot

[broken carbon]

did you have a conversation with path

[nocturne dust]

It's highly predictable though, and my point was that assail can replace a gun, killing specials, and had nothing to do with melee.

[raven mountain]

I've had great luck with chain axe + inferno staff dealing with monsters, and people have had other builds too, but that's mine.

[zinc phoenix]

I grant you it matters on zealot vet melee but there is so much incidental damage flying around in situations other than hard clutch

[north hatch]

Ok for brain burst and shield I'd run something more like this https://youtu.be/Q0guReRtGWI but also in general I think BB and shield is kind of awkward to use and I personally wouldn't run it

[inland berry]

i... could go DD and grab deflector for ranged defense

[north hatch]

I linke

A YouTube song

Mb

[inland berry]

er

SG

[rich spindle]

Ur ranged defense should just be killing them with warp attacks

[north hatch]

Some parts of this are flexible but I think overall that's a more optimized version of what you're trying to go for

[inland berry]

kinetic flayer is 100% a meme right?

[flat moat]

For the greatsword is it more efficient to save and use both charges or just spam the first charge?

[raven mountain]

It's a meme, but less so than before.

[rich spindle]

I really like it with fire staff

[raven mountain]

It actually hits elites and specials now.

[stark crown]

@fresh reef LET ME IN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

[quick tulip]

it varies, first tier charge can kill things like specials

[stark crown]

NOW!!!!!

[rich spindle]

I always take it with fire staff

[north hatch]

I don't think kinetic flayer is bad? But like you don't have a ton of wiggle room

[quick tulip]

second tier can kill crushers

[north hatch]

And other stuff is more important

[inland berry]

ok new plan

[broken carbon]

not really, the amount of times i’ve been fighting enemies and my team is caught up with something else, and can’t deal any damage to the pack of crushers, bulwarks, or overall elites is a very common occurrence

if you’re a psyker main, you may have an inflated perception as to how common what you said is due to how psyker works as a class

[rustic crystal]

Super block efficiency deflector memes are a ton of fun though

[fresh reef]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!

[stark crown]

NOW!!!!!!!!!!

[fresh reef]

I'M EDITING MY PERIL GAUGE RN

AND THEN HAVING DINNER

‼️

[north hatch]

Empowered psionics let's you spam brain burst like 5-6 times

In a row

[broken carbon]

i’ll be on in a bit :3

[stark crown]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-baby-gif-3114624433586884898

[north hatch]

I might be over exaggerating the numbe

But it's good into like crusher packs I think

[fresh reef]

Tom and Jerry gif, based

[stark crown]

LMAO

[broken carbon]

who up jerrying the tom

[rich spindle]

Insanity🔥

[raven mountain]

Bubble is way better, but if I'm bothering to go BB focused, I want the double wall for more spammy.

[broken carbon]

real

[strong gulch]

who framed roger rabbit

[north hatch]

Ive never used the wall I've been s bubble guy for too long

[broken carbon]

me

[quick tulip]

lowkey kinda wish I could ogryn taunt on a psyker, not like they already priority target me as the most gorgeous on the team

[north hatch]

Psyker just gets insta deleted LOL

[strong gulch]

ur judge now

[long wharf]

seriously, how does anybody not know that?

[inland berry]

i... was actually considering double wall

[quick tulip]

I was replying to deflector block efficiency build, so... no?

[north hatch]

Oh

[inland berry]

saves me a point and a lot of peril.... which might..... actually make kinetic flayer not a meme

[raven mountain]

Double wall does have some fun, memey shit it can do over bubble, but not much beats turning off bullets/nets inside and regen.

[strong gulch]

Maybe we're just old.

[north hatch]

Nbm then lol

[rustic crystal]

Full block psyker is better CC than Smite
(It's because your team will actually hit the moshpit compacting your spine into a corner since they don't see glammy lightning)

[long wharf]

I mean, I'm definitely old, so no maybe there

[nocturne dust]

kinetic flayer isn't a meme?

[north hatch]

I feel like most people have seen who framed Roger rabbit no?

[quick tulip]

ok that was pretty funny lmao

[nocturne dust]

It's actually good on staff builds as a PC enabler

[north hatch]

Like most people my age and I'm 20

[rich spindle]

I’d say double wall is straight up better on waves of muties/bursters

[north hatch]

Have seen that film or know what it is

Unless 20 year olds are old

[rich spindle]

And on certain maps with lots of hallways

[raven mountain]

Yeah, that and dogs are the fun, memey shit I was talking about.

[quick tulip]

bubble is the safe pick, double wall is the smart pick

[long wharf]

I've seen enough immature 20 year olds to call them still babies

[strong gulch]

No clue.

[long wharf]

kids definitely mature more slowly these days

I blame public education

and the interwebs

[north hatch]

I still think kids not knowing how to download files is the craziest thing

[strong gulch]

I know too many 40 to 50 year olds who are babies.

[long wharf]

well, you wear diapers when you're young and when old, so.

there's room for interpretation there

[strong gulch]

Then people approach proper old town and are definitely babies.

All babies all of the time.

[long wharf]

bunch of screaming meat sacks

[nocturne dust]

very untrue

Bubble is still the smart pick, its advantages over wall are numerous

[long wharf]

does bubble still get popped easily?

[strong gulch]

TBH, not sleeping and eating enough is still a huge baseline that makes people cranky af.

[marble crater]

That's how psykers are made

[nocturne dust]

Not as easy as it used to, but gunners can pop it kinda fast. Still a lot better than wall.

[rich spindle]

Nah

[mental grail]

No??

I'm not a fossil bro

[clear heath]

What's the minimum bubble duration like now?

i remember there being a minimum

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-baby-gif-10797160705693024102

[long wharf]

you don't have to be a fossil to enjoy classic movies

[north hatch]

Could've fooled me

Jk jk

It's a good kids movie though

[long wharf]

wellllll

[north hatch]

Very sexualized

Kids movie

[long wharf]

I mean, it's not graphic, but I still wouldn't show it to very young kids

I'd go with Happy Tree Friends first

truly desensitize their young minds

[north hatch]

Idk if you ask 8 year old me I would've preferred seeing Jessica rabbit over furries murdering each other

[midnight cove]

what's the metaslave gunker gun?

[long wharf]

the animators knew what they were doing with Jessica Rabbit

[nocturne dust]

vraks infantry autogun

[midnight cove]

thanks

[next heart]

How do autoguns do into carapace/unyielding

[midnight cove]

they do not

[north hatch]

Into bosses incredible

[quick tulip]

waiting for somebody to hack open the Disney Vaults with a rusty shovel just to see all the sanctioned cornography

[north hatch]

Into carpace less so

[quartz barn]

you use ds4 and one/two tap them

[midnight cove]

or well ye unyielding does pretty good

[long wharf]

fgs is missing Thrust

[next heart]

Put thrust on a curio so I can have it on everything

[strong gulch]

no uncanny

[north hatch]

Thrust into me

[long wharf]

I wonder if it's possible to mod weapon blessings onto curios...

[north hatch]

Uncanny on curios would be so nice on vet

[quick tulip]

I think they didn't put thrust on it specifically so it can just be decent anyways

[north hatch]

I love shredders + uncanny so much

Ngl I was kinda hoping that one great sword would have a vertical wave and the other would be horizontal

And the vertical one would leave like a lingering trail on the ground

And be better into bosses and crushers

[quick tulip]

would be a cool interaction with Soulblaze tbh

[long wharf]

I just want something for the psyker that leaves patches of warpfire on the ground

[livid aspen]

Any tips on doing more dmg in general and to bosses? I'm running surge staff + a dagger+ smite + empowered psyonics. It feels great to stay alive and cc for others, but I just got the score board mod and I'm not carrying like I think I am LMAO 😅

[quick tulip]

run something else

[next heart]

With my luck I'd use a vertical slash warp slice and hit the DH on the floor above

[midnight cove]

ds4 is pretty comfy boss damage honestly

[nocturne dust]

coruscatiooooooonnnn

[next heart]

Tip: remove scoreboard mod

[clear heath]

hit them more

[buoyant maple]

Psyker in general is not very high boss damage outside of a few specific builds

[long wharf]

do enough damage that enemies die more quickly

[buoyant maple]

But psyker is extremely strong in wiping high density elites & specialists

[quick tulip]

pretty much any gunker build will do better monstrosity damage than the staves

SG crit bonus is...

[midnight cove]

isn't the flamer staff pretty good boss damage

[fringe garden]

But gunkers are heretics, and do not love the Emperor

[quick tulip]

"pretty good", yes
it's DoT and since bosses tend to linger...

[buoyant maple]

It’s alright
But it’s not really comparable to zealot & veteran

[broken quail]

I've always gotten crazy high boss damage on purge staff. bonus points if you make sure to keep your flame bursts short to keep blaze away stacks up

[fringe garden]

Depends on if anyone in the group has high boss burst damage

[midnight cove]

🤷 honestly don't play much psyker

[buoyant maple]

Zealot & veteran can normally speedrun bosses in 5~20s

20~30s is like, solo kill

In a team effort it’s more like 5-7s

[north hatch]

Zealots 2 tapping bosses will never be not funny

[buoyant maple]

Only tedious one is BoN

[north hatch]

What's BoN

[midnight cove]

I feel like it's actually harder with the team around alot of the time, harder to dodge and follow up with precog/riposte etc

[quick tulip]

beast of nurgle

[north hatch]

Oh

Beast of nirgle

[marble crater]

The slug

[quick tulip]

AKA slugdog

[north hatch]

Ooze all over me

[clear heath]

burgle

[north hatch]

Slug daddy

[quick tulip]

it just wants to lick your face and be friends

it's like a puppy

[north hatch]

Slugma balls

[buoyant maple]

Chaos spawn and plague ogryn simply don’t pose enough of a threat unless you’re stuck in a narrow corridor with no space to move to and have to fight multiple at the same time

[midnight cove]

yeah they're nothing in comparison to the slugs

[north hatch]

My biggest issue with bosses is their disabling attacks and that's it

Other than that they're fine

[quick tulip]

TL;DR bosses in a tight area? GLHF

bosses in the open? EZGG

[midnight cove]

I like it when the spawn grabs a teammate then juggles me against a wall

[north hatch]

Can you block their disablers actually?

[quick tulip]

I like it when I get ate by a BoN and it walks through a firepool to instakill me

[north hatch]

Cause all I do is stagger them with shredders and voice of command as vet

[midnight cove]

classic

[wispy bay]

Bosses near the edges, you might fly down to the underhive.

[north hatch]

And with psyker I just get grabbed and then cry

[quick tulip]

chefkiss

[midnight cove]

I have yet to land on a psyker build I really enjoy

used to really like voidstrike but it doesn't do it for me now

[marble crater]

BoN eats you and walks by the Daemonhost

[north hatch]

I don't like how staves look so I've been gun psykering 24/7

[wispy bay]

BoN is easy to deal with if a psyker has shield.

[midnight cove]

I like how fast you run around on gunker

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[north hatch]

I will use staves once they release a book skin!

And not a moment before!

[marble crater]

If you are on PC you can use mods to turn your staves into guns

[quick tulip]

another peak moment, NGL

I actually don't mind this as much because I've had it remove DHs in difficult spots

[north hatch]

That's kinda gross though

[fickle gale]

saw a psyker using the staff m1 and force sword L1 like 10 times a second, is that a macro or what?

is it possible to learn this power?

[north hatch]

Idk there's just a certain level of power fantasy that comes to magic users if they don't have any tools y'know what I mean?

[marble crater]

Yes, but so is not using staves as psyker

[north hatch]

Like casting shit with your hands

Looks cool

Using a wand

[inland berry]

its called quell cancelling

[north hatch]

Wand nasty

[quick tulip]

kinda easy to do too

[north hatch]

Is being nasty is wrong

Then I've been a nasty lad

[fickle gale]

never knew u could make it a minigun

[inland berry]

basically you quell for one tick or whatever immediately after the bolt fires

[fickle gale]

damn

[inland berry]

and then immediately hit lmb again

[midnight cove]

now you can get carpal tunnel in both your hands

[inland berry]

i find the timing difficult to do consistently

[inland berry]

also yeah

[north hatch]

Does quell cancelling work with the full auto mod?

[inland berry]

carpal tunnel simulator

[north hatch]

So you just hold m1 and spam quell

[inland berry]

well the other thing is it's super easy to blow yourself up doing it

[wispy bay]

That's why they run SG

[north hatch]

I'll probably try staves eventually tbh

[fickle gale]

so shriek is advised

[inland berry]

no

thats the thing

[north hatch]

https://i.imgur.com/dPdrH1Q.png

[midnight cove]

ah yeah I've blown myself up even in the sg grace period

[north hatch]

What does this mean

[inland berry]

because this is basically ALL you do

[north hatch]

Is weapon customization just fucked

[inland berry]

shriek'

[north hatch]

For right now

[inland berry]

doesn't have fast enough cd to save you consistently

[fickle gale]

lmao

[midnight cove]

idk about that though

[fickle gale]

what a mechanic

[inland berry]

oh i don't think this was an intentional behaviour lmao

[midnight cove]

you can just run that blessing that quells on headshots

[wispy bay]

I don't think it works on EK

[inland berry]

oh yeah

[midnight cove]

works on left click

[inland berry]

yeah you need uh, warp nexus smite?

[wispy bay]

Vstrike does, but it just so so

[inland berry]

no warp flurry smite

er

strike?

what's the blessing called

[midnight cove]

surge?

[inland berry]

surge!

[wispy bay]

Yes

Double hit

[inland berry]

what happens to me is i either get distracted by not blowing up and screw up the timing, or i get so focused on the timing that i blow up

[midnight cove]

when I play carpal tunnel staff I just do surge + headshot quell thingy which name I don't recall

[inland berry]

also it hurts my hands

[midnight cove]

you have like 60% crit during sg anyway

nexus feels a bit redundant

[fickle gale]

im assuming that person was using some macro, if not rip their hands

[midnight cove]

I feel like I'm not able to focus on other things as well if I have to keep the rhythm of quell cancelling xd

[wispy bay]

Honestly, you don't need to do that to play well

[inland berry]

same

[midnight cove]

I'm already not good at playing psyker

too used to zealot and vet being way tankier

[wispy bay]

High risk high reward doesn't always mean rewarding.

I run soulblaze SG, which is off meta, but it clears all of the bs in auric mael and havoc.

[midnight cove]

I wanna make fgs work but ds4 has ruined me

[silent panther]

It does it you can always handle the risk

[fickle gale]

i like purga for laziness

[restive locust]

is terrifying barrage good on the flame staff?

[celest valve]

hmm. i am reminded that my urge to play darktide has vanished because every single person is running the new mission.

[analog agate]

No

[fickle gale]

blaze away and warp nexus my beloved

[runic kiln]

just play havoc 😄

[tight saddle]

ngl I was enjoying scrier's gaze, but I've started getting tilted because of the bug that kills you even during the 10 second period with the talent

I had it happen way too often one game

[thick mauve]

space jedi aint bad now that I learned stuff

[runic kiln]

yeah im having a blast rn just being a team support psyker with double bubbles and the fgs being able to stumble thru walls

[celest valve]

i don't have a pl 500 setup yet

[runic kiln]

low havoc is easyyoull be right

[mental grail]

lol

so it's universal?

[quick heath]

which stat should be dumped on the kinetic force staff?

[split lance]

@nocturne dust

games?

OR

[lethal lagoon]

OR

[split lance]

anyone with at minimum 20 havoc level wanna game

[lethal lagoon]

minimum

[analog agate]

I can play… but I have been joining peoples games. So mine is only 16 😦

[split lance]

ours is also only 16

but 16 is heresy and broing

boring

were gonan try to duo it lol

[strong gulch]

I unlocked it. idk beyond that.

[analog agate]

I get they were trying to get it so not everyone is havoc 30+ right away. Buuuutttt it feels pretty bad to not be havoc 30 right away

[celest valve]

Removed pushback on Shotgunner attacks. so great

[pulsar hazel]

I imagine this was done because gunner spam in Havoc can get insane lmao

you'd get blown off the damn map if it wasnt removed

[celest valve]

they're not gunners

but yes I've died before to shotgun knockback before making me unable to get to them in melee

[pulsar hazel]

afaik gunner slowdown was removed too

[halcyon gust]

You'll be surprise at how much you can get pushed back if 2 or 3 shotgunners hitting you at once

[pulsar hazel]

but i only heard it word of mouth so idk

[celest valve]

i'm not cause i experienced it LOL

[halcyon gust]

Reapers no longer knockback you on hit as well

[pulsar hazel]

eitherway shotgunners is what i meant i am just a lazy bugger

[pulsar hazel]

reapers are such chumps now thank god

[halcyon gust]

Not exactly

[inland berry]

i think im coming around to the mk6

[celest valve]

Removed hitstun from Gunner attacks.

[halcyon gust]

Reapers can easily shred you

[steep kindle]

Reapers will just murder you

[pulsar hazel]

yeah but i've been exclusively running fgs

and fgs insane push just stuns reapers

reapers at range... different story XD

at least bistol is good against em

[halcyon gust]

I seen fellow psykers turned into swiss cheese for peaking out of cover for a few seconds

[pulsar hazel]

as a scrier i simply drill holes into my body where future bullets are supposed to land

predrilled cheese

that sounds like something a scrier psyker would actually do in the lore

i mean they use their powers in such trolly ways

[onyx sentinel]

how do you finish the "finish missions with people under lvl 30", everyone I know has moved on from the game lmao

[pulsar hazel]

"yeah put a landmine down exactly there so someone 4 years from now will step on it and die"

[potent echo]

I've trioed like 3 havocs so far because someone just DCs and there's no backfill

[nocturne dust]

I'ma need a bit, say 15 minutes

[pulsar hazel]

find that one friend that plays only zealot and convince them to take a shower, then convince them to try another class

[clear heath]

just ignore that part and do this instead

[rich spindle]

wanna go 80 mobility knife what should i dump

[onyx sentinel]

bruh my first run had a guy left 5 minutes in despite winning

if that's how it's like in havoc 16 can't imagine doing 3 man run in 20+

[potent echo]

Wait does it count if your own character is new

[strong gulch]

Pen because uncanny stacks.

[rich spindle]

thats what i was thinking

but im tired of running uncanny lol

[onyx sentinel]

probably wait until the shitter quiters drop the game again first before doing havoc in earnerst

[potent echo]

You can filter people in havocs though

[halcyon gust]

Best to play difficulty Sedition, Uprising, and Malice games where you're more likely to run into low level players

[wind spruce]

My havoc requirement is 500 true level or I know you personally

These lvl 300 shitters can gdiaf

[onyx sentinel]

yea but how do I know that knife vet was a quitter, he had havoc ~20

[ripe obsidian]

:<

[inland berry]

do ek staff rmb count as weakspot hits?

[potent echo]

Level 500 and above

[pine hearth]

gun res broken now?

[pine hearth]

I have 60% but 1 gunner can kill me in under a second

[onyx sentinel]

mate 1566 is unhinged lmao

[lone ravine]

guys the blazeforce greatsword is op, it convinced 3 zealots on my team that I was a zealot and not a psyker

im not going to die to fanatics today!

[quick tulip]

I absolutely love that Psylot is a thing

[rich spindle]

nope :(

[ripe obsidian]

I feel... insufficient.

[split lance]

on our duo

[lethal lagoon]

Voidy get in here.

[split lance]

2 bons and a captain spawned

at the same time

[lethal lagoon]

And we were corned by a DH

[split lance]

yup

[lethal lagoon]

@nocturne dust

Pway?

[nocturne dust]

I said 15 minutes 12 minutes ago

[potent echo]

I wonder what's the captain spawn logic

[runic kiln]

seems to be; spawn in>kill us?

c:

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like they say, "I'm the captain," and then the game transports them to "now"

[potent echo]

I got 2 captains in one game

[quick tulip]

I feel like they spawn in specific spots throughout the levels? I've only played a handful of missions though and always had 2-3 captains

[potent echo]

They overlap with actual bosses though

[pulsar hazel]

is anticipation working as intended (e.g. giving you the +50% dodge distance)

ik for the longest time it didnt

[potent echo]

Yesn't

[spice veldt]

it's not +dodge distance

[potent echo]

It's not dodge distance

Is dodge time

[spice veldt]

it's +50% to your i-frame linger time

psyker has 200ms of linger time

anticipation bumps that up to 300ms

[pulsar hazel]

honestly even better

wonderful

[spice veldt]

*this linger time is specifically against melee attacks

[haughty star]

i've been running it with FGS and i'm not ashamed

that things dodges stanky

[lethal lagoon]

You said 15 minutes 12 minutes ago 3 minutes ago

[potent echo]

My ciag dodges better than the FGS

[pulsar hazel]

at least its not the relic blades

those things feel sluggier than thammer

[haughty star]

i never did like the ciag

[potent echo]

It's the same profile as evis so yea

[haughty star]

it's powerful and all but just feels mehhhh

[pulsar hazel]

im so sleepy what the fuck is a ciag

[haughty star]

columnus

[pulsar hazel]

combat infantry uatogun

[haughty star]

vraks mk5

[pulsar hazel]

ohhh

[potent echo]

70k damage to boss in one mag

[pulsar hazel]

back i nmy day we'd call it a columnussy

but woke fatshark ruined it and called it vraks

[fringe garden]

I don't think that is true

[pulsar hazel]

its true to me

[haughty star]

lol what is true?

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-alter-the-deal-empire-strikes-back-star-wars-gif-15971205

[haughty star]

yeah the columnus got changed to v5

[nocturne dust]

I'm updating mods

[pulsar hazel]

i wonder why we got weird ass name changes

I mean probably GW

[wind spruce]

Are u srs

[onyx sentinel]

pov: the update just came out and the game is asking me to do auric maelstrom

[pulsar hazel]

i wouldnt even mind if it wasnt for voidstrike/voidblast

truamaforce was way cooler fight me

[wind spruce]

The captains are so tame

[runic kiln]

no i am m1r11

[haughty star]

you are the scum of the earth

i hate you rn

[quick tulip]

you can unlock havocs with just a normal maelstrom

auric maelstrom will give you access to Havoc level 16 immediately

[pulsar hazel]

as the dude above me said just do a normal maelstrum

arguably The Method if you want the event done easily too

[onyx sentinel]

I already did auric mael to unlock havoc, this was someone else from yesterday's run lmao

[quick tulip]

lol

[nocturne dust]

@analog agate @lethal lagoon my mission is on 20

[haughty star]

lol you don't even use a mic with them?

[mental grail]

They still haven't changed item descriptions, which I find very funny.

[quick tulip]

yeah I had one where there was three BoN and each time I got ate and dragged through fire, was only around for the final event

[mental grail]

The "Vraks" auto-generated still says Columnus in the desc

[quick tulip]

it was... embarassing at the very least

[mental grail]

You just have to do a normal mael

lmao

[runic kiln]

auric mael is cooler and more fun tho

[quick tulip]

at some point I literally

got untied
got spat on
got ate
died

[mental grail]

I was helping noobs on malice mael

honestly even more difficult w/ the room-temp iq behavior on display

only saving grace is that it's dead easy to clutch

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve had like 10, it’s pretty tedious

And they always spawn with something else

Every other corner another mfer pops out

[potent echo]

No (more) cap(tains please)

[acoustic isle]

Just did a rank 18 havoc and yeah had 2 spawn throughout the mission lol

[fresh reef]

rate my peril gauge

[quick tulip]

I love the purple->red fade

[weary crane]

What program

[potent echo]

Perilgauge

[ripe obsidian]

Oh hey, I just played with you earlier this week. It's neat seeing names I recognize.

I remember you being meleeker

It was Psykerfest

The hardest part of havoc so far is not realizing I'm in slime and losing 20% of my HP

[clear heath]

thinking of running corruption res on havoc

[flat moat]

Heres my great force sword/ las pistol build. Any tips for improving it?

[runic kiln]

it goes pr well imo

[ripe obsidian]

Assail is probably better than Smite here.

[wind spruce]

580 ammo picked up for 200k damage

fucks sake

[flat moat]

Yeah but Psykinetics aura is goated

[runic kiln]

i think they grabbed smite for the cd node

[wicked hornet]

Surge staff going to be good in Havoc?

[runic kiln]

also i love saving teammates from dogs thru walls with fgs

[ripe obsidian]

Scriers already has such a short CD. You don't really need the node.

[runic kiln]

you have 3 teammates that benefit as well tho

[ripe obsidian]

Killing more enemies benefits them more

[runic kiln]

damn

whens your book of wisdom dropping thats actually so profound

[ripe obsidian]

Death is the best CC - Sun Tzu

[flat moat]

If it swapped that out for assail I'd gain one point, is there anything I'd be able to get thatd make a big difference?

[ripe obsidian]

Faster Assail shard regen

That's a good one.

[runic kiln]

using fgs tho so you wouldnt want to assail crowds

[flat moat]

I'll try a run with it and see what I like more

[ripe obsidian]

?

[thick mauve]

im using brain blast to get an achievement

[runic kiln]

?!

[ripe obsidian]

Assail is almost always great to weave in

Throw a couple out then go back to hacking and slashing

[onyx sentinel]

oh the end game screen is not a still anymore

goofy ass idle animation

[quick tulip]

they can worry about their own GD CD

[cyan portal]

7/10 good but room for improvement

[ripe obsidian]

I tried doing a Trauma/Bubble build for Havoc. It felt... boring, but effective. CC everything and stop some bullets.

[fresh reef]

elaborate?

I'm curious

[dire warren]

I've been running a Fire Build for the greatsword like all day. It's kind of insane. https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9da60ef9-f04c-4f5a-86f1-4baf4f701f0c

Like I'm a malice main, just testing the waters with Heresy, and with that build I've carved it UP.

Ready to try Damnation with it.

[cyan portal]

Distinct change in color at 85 peril for 6 stack shriek. Distinct change in color at 98.4 peril for safe/unsafe BR (with ER, it might be slightly lower without).

Otherwise it just goes through the standard color temperature scale. But that's mostly just taste.

[fresh reef]

ah, I gotcha

the colors are entirely there for aesthetic, I'm mostly looking at my number anyhow

[cyan portal]

6 stack shriek and safe bb are the really important aspects of peril information, so is handy to know just by color without mentally processing the number

[cyan portal]

I also hacked the mod so it applies peril color to the charge up bars in the cross hair. Happy to share the hacked version with anyone that wants it.

[clear heath]

You actually only need 83.4% soulblaze for 6 stack shriek btw

[cyan portal]

I never actually tested the exact value, will double check and update tyvm

[clear heath]

Proof here if you wanna save time testing
83.4%, shrieked down to 33.4%, you can see 6 stacks applied

[pulsar hazel]

You still assail before entering combat, assail when moving away, assail to save ammo vs many enemies and specials

Assail those Havoc enemies that shit their pants when they die

Very useful there

[fathom adder]

Assail to pick your DD target if its too far away to melee and your gun is empty or you don't want to reload it or whatever

[pulsar hazel]

That too

Assail saves ammo on my bistol

[fathom adder]

Just gotta hope the shard reaches it before someone else kills it

[pulsar hazel]

My ammo eff on my bistol gunker is often better than bistol vet lol

I don't usually weave in assails unless there's a noticeable gap in the horde tho

[cyan portal]

I did double check, old habits, but correct tyty

[pulsar hazel]

It's a good thing to do but I'm lazy

[runic kiln]

yeah assail is good, this was a convo about making the most of fgs though

[pulsar hazel]

I use it on my fgs build

It's very very useful

[runic kiln]

congrats

[pulsar hazel]

alr?

guess have fun "making the most of fgs" with brainburst or whatever

[runic kiln]

smite actually

good memes 😛

[strong gulch]

noice\

[hollow current]

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