psyker-class

[radiant ice]

I do like the idea of quick tap smite builds though mixed in with melee

Gonna have to play around with that too for a maxium CDR build

[plucky flax]

Anyone wanna join havoc 26?

[languid osprey]

Been trying the new sword rn and i cant choose a mk rn mk6 heavy feels great but idk if its the better choice

What do you think siblings?

[radiant ice]

Most people say the Mk6 is king, I prefer the Mk8

Real answer, both slap

[spark otter]

The mk 8 is brain off for horde clear

[acoustic isle]

Using the weapon in your loadout gives mastery. Mastery level 20 is the highest. Gives ranks to put into blessings. No longer a cap on blessing and perk changes. Overall power of weapon is based on weapon mastery level. You can also sacrafice green or higher tier weapons to increase mastery

[radiant ice]

Swapping marks is free

Nothing stopping you swapping every few games XD

https://tenor.com/view/brilliant-i-like-this-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-richard-hammond-gif-18951630

Force Greatsword Marks in a nutshell ^

[acoustic isle]

If you have the resources. Just buy a shit ton of the same weapon from brunts. Upgrade to green

Then mass dump sacrafice

Easy level 20

[radiant ice]

I'd say just pick whichever moveset gels more naturally with your playstyle

[languid osprey]

Yeah! I like both thats the problem haha ill try the mk6 more since i like the heavys

Also what blessings do you like more?

[wintry niche]

I think 15 should do it, since I had to get like 15-20 to get a decent GS, when everything was greened and sacrificed and my cash was gone, I had to play 1 more game to get it to 20

[radiant ice]

Wrath and Riposte is traditional, and always works reliably if you're unsure

[acoustic isle]

Comes down to move set preference and application

I prefer 6 to be an elite killer

Both have moves for horde and elite clearing

[radiant ice]

But again, I wouldn't hesitate to experiment with the blessings yourself either

Overall the greatsword is just great, hard to make it actually bad

[wintry niche]

Horde clear with it is nice, running speed and quelling suck with it

[languid osprey]

Yeah i was thinking about the toughness blessing but it feels worse than other options

Ill try wrath thx

[radiant ice]

I mean I've seen it work wonders in builds with 0 toughness regen naturally

[acoustic isle]

Personally i feel psyker has other means to get toughness back

[radiant ice]

Which is... rare in a Psyker, but possible

[acoustic isle]

So toughness on multiple hit feels like a bad choice

[radiant ice]

Thing is 15% regen per swing really does make a good impact

Especially combo'd with Wrath for cleave

[wintry niche]

Depends if you take empyric resolve

[radiant ice]

I'd say it's actually better for total new players who aren't great at dodging even in a normal amount of toughness regen build for a Psyker

[acoustic isle]

I should rephrase

It can be a crutch you lean on

[radiant ice]

Total new players may struggle to make the most out of Riposte, but 15% regen toughness on swing is a pretty solid patch for that skill issue XD

[acoustic isle]

Nothing wrong with it.

[radiant ice]

Certainly less offensive of a new player crutch than perma-smite

[frigid flame]

I Lucked out at sire melk, I had hoarded points a year ago before I quit and came back to a level 500 force longsword

[quartz barn]

Tbh im experienced and even i dont make the most out of riposte

[acoustic isle]

Lmao the glory days of infinite power

[wintry niche]

Regardless, early game play is completely different than later

[acoustic isle]

I am the senate

[carmine agate]

cant think what to use with greatsword

[radiant ice]

I'd say Wrath is the only blessing that edges on mandatory

Cause it really takes what the GS shines at and pushes it even further

[acoustic isle]

Wrath is pretty useful no matter what i feel

[radiant ice]

But there are solid builds that go without it

[languid osprey]

Idk if its the new patch or that im rusty since the last time ive played but i feel the game a bit wonky and idk if its the performance or having a "slow weapon" haha

[acoustic isle]

Probably the slow weapon

[frigid flame]

I just make sure it has deflector on it. I refuse to use a sword without it

[acoustic isle]

It's heavy eviscerator levels of slow

[languid osprey]

Some fps drops here and there

[radiant ice]

Then run Wrath and the Toughness regen blessing until you get used to it, nothing wrong with creating a safety net while you relearn

[acoustic isle]

And we dont get the zealot speed boosts

[quartz barn]

Nah evis has more end lag

[languid osprey]

That too

[frigid flame]

Being able to push up on gunners with a sword and take no damage then hack them apart is chefs kiss

[languid osprey]

Either way goated weapon

[grim pike]

anyone else blowing themselves up even though they have warp unbound?

[quartz barn]

Fgs has long charge times but the attacks itself are fast

[languid osprey]

The special swipe is the cherry on top

[radiant ice]

There is like a 0.2s window inbetween Sciers and Unbound where you can blow up

Mods fix it

[acoustic isle]

Plus getting a heavy poke headshot on a gunner and watching them die instantly

Mmmm feels good

[quartz barn]

Regular heavies do that too tbf

Big range is nice however

[acoustic isle]

But that thrust man

Mmmmm something about it feels good

[quartz barn]

Now do that vs crushers

[acoustic isle]

I do

[grim pike]

thank you. Which one?

[acoustic isle]

Often lmao

[quartz barn]

Or through a bulwarks shield

[frigid flame]

What’s the thrust combo? I haven’t figured out a poke on fgs yet

[quartz barn]

Double heavy

[acoustic isle]

Mk 6 specifically

[quartz barn]

On mk6

[acoustic isle]

Second heavy

[frigid flame]

Ah I didn’t even check the marks

I’m still using the default one

[radiant ice]

You’ll hate me but I have so many and I can’t remember which

[frigid flame]

I gotta check the marks when I get home

[radiant ice]

WarpUnboundTimer is 100% the most important though

And PerilGauge

Turn the PerilGauge opacity to 0, but use the override function

You have Vanilla peril counter, except the % is actually accurate

The vanilla one has smoothing on it as it scales up/down

Making it sometimes wildly inaccurate with high apm

[frigid flame]

Bro the assail goes hard asf I don’t see any reason to use brain blast

[radiant ice]

Brain Burst is bae

But I use all 3 depending on build

[grim pike]

thanks for the detailed answer

[young ridge]

maybe its just my build but the 2h feels kinda meh

[radiant ice]

You can down Monstrosities in seconds with brain burst if you take both modifiers so it’s spammable

[frigid flame]

I run maxed out assail, fgs, any force staff

[grim pike]

yeah i have warp unbound timer and don't really have problems killing myself with peril normally but I keep dying to Warp Unbound

[radiant ice]

Yeah that 0.2s window is a bitch

Wish I knew what it was exactly that patched it, I may not even have that mod

[frigid flame]

Are you using the mega swipe correctly? I was wondering why it felt weird until I realized you have to charge it with kills

[radiant ice]

Just heard it mentioned a lot

[young ridge]

i am

it hits, but it just doesnt have great overall performance

feels like a big downgrade from ds

[acoustic isle]

I take it we, got a rating 500 weapon right?

[young ridge]

obviously

[lean mural]

anything is a downgrade from the most OP weapon in the game

[young ridge]

im not broke

[frigid flame]

Dueling sword isn’t flashy enough for me

[acoustic isle]

And yeah in fairness dueling sword was always silly lmao

[lean mural]

what's y'all's scrier's timing like with GS

do you aim for maximum uptime or do you try to pop it anticipating diff spikes or what's the move

[young ridge]

yeah i cant complain about the fashion of 2h

[frigid flame]

It’s a great weapon I just hate it because it’s bland.

[radiant ice]

Bland!?

[frigid flame]

It doesn’t do anything flashy or special it’s just a blender enemies walk into a die

[radiant ice]

The magic greatsword that eats souls and cleaves crowds with an arc is bland?

[lean mural]

he meant DS

[frigid flame]

No the dueling swords

[radiant ice]

Ohhhh

Yeah no they are boring af

Agreed xD

Sorry multitasking, on my work machine in office xD

[frigid flame]

Like everyone uses them because they are meta and I get it but I don’t get the same satisfaction from a DS as I get from this clip

[radiant ice]

Oh yeah I’ve had a few times where 3 have gone down

Horde and gunners surround them

shing now 3 safe revives and no enemies

Such a beautiful weapon

[young ridge]

its cool

but its just sooo slow

[radiant ice]

Take the node for increased attack speed

[young ridge]

i have it

[frigid flame]

I like the spacing of the FGS too

[young ridge]

i think its just low dps

[frigid flame]

I can hit enemies just outside of their melee range

[young ridge]

i wanted to be able to go fully melee psyker

[radiant ice]

I have done just that

And been tearing through Havoc and Auric Mael’s easy enough

[frigid flame]

I basically am. Only time I whip out the assail is if there is a horde of gunners or a rager I don’t want existing anymore

[radiant ice]

I only use assail for warp unboard

Revolver for picking off annoyances when the Vet is too busy picking lead paint off the walls

[lean mural]

is it worth starting havoc at 1 just to get a sense of how it scales

[radiant ice]

Nah start at 16

[lean mural]

aight

[radiant ice]

It’s easy

It’s still like Malice difficulty I think

Or low modified Heresy

1-15 must be brutally slow

[lean mural]

prev question about scrier's timing?

[frigid flame]

Voidstaff is unlimited ammo why use something that sucks ammo up from your team when you don’t need it

[radiant ice]

Speed

2-click-1

In under a second

2/1 being my weapon swaps xD

[acoustic isle]

Because crit psyker with revolver goes bang bang

But i personally prefer voidstrike myself

[frigid flame]

Eh I don’t ever build crit I just build straight damage it’s more reliable

[radiant ice]

Psyker can hit 87.5% crit chance

[acoustic isle]

And critting with voidstrike to get the double orb

That is sexy right there

[radiant ice]

And crit builds can reliably have 62.5% up most of the time

[frigid flame]

At what cost tho

[lean mural]

i thought it only double-shot on LMB

[radiant ice]

Once you get into it, it’s super hard to play a non-crit Psyker

[lean mural]

or was only supposed to

[radiant ice]

Nope

[acoustic isle]

If i misunderstood that's on me

[radiant ice]

Sciers Gaze double big orb with DD stacks

[acoustic isle]

But the charge shot seemed doubled too

Not just left click

[radiant ice]

You are correct

And it’s intended

It’s also glorious

[acoustic isle]

So a crit charged voidstrike with that blessing melts a horde

[radiant ice]

It straight up doubles your existing crit damage cause you fire two

[acoustic isle]

Or an elite patrol

[radiant ice]

Yes

Hold on, DeadVoid made a killer build around it

Lemme find it

[frigid flame]

Idk I’m a simple man. I have a big magic greatsword and I will hack everything to death with it and anything I can’t get close to with that will meet a million flying homing daggers

[radiant ice]

This Voidstrike build is just

“Everything over that direction dies now”

Take Surge and Nexus for blessings ofc

[frigid flame]

https://tenor.com/view/eso-knight-pommel-strike-punch-ko-gif-5980793312588365212

Long swords/greatswords are the best

[radiant ice]

I wish the heavy infuse from smite was better

[frigid flame]

The electrical heavy attack?

Yeah that would be cool

Maybe if it just stunned its target it would be good

[radiant ice]

How I hoped that would work

[frigid flame]

Lol

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/electric-tazer-gif-15632411

How it actually works

[haughty star]

1644 messages

[radiant ice]

The madness of warp, sibling! Give yourself over to the Chaos!

Is that buzzing I hear?

Buzz buzz buzz

[haughty star]

Also try your void with flurry on sg instead of nexus

Its not half bad

With scriers

[radiant ice]

Oh I know that’s what I use personally

[haughty star]

I personally skip out on ER too cuz warp unbound says fuck it we ball

[radiant ice]

Wait actually I use Nexus and Flurry

But I referencing DeadVoid’s build

Who’s probably the king of Voidstrike here

Tbh the main reason I like Psyker is how varied our toolkit is

We have quite the customisable toolbox compared to others

And most things will work in everything other than top level play

[zinc phoenix]

Ah yes the “Help guys I’m having a cardiac arrest from being electrocuted” image

[radiant ice]

I couldn’t find the one from the first game

Where he lights his lightsaber blade itself up with lightning

Close enough xD

[haughty star]

Nah he just talks alot more than most lol

[radiant ice]

What else do you thing it is a king does?

[haughty star]

That game was the shit

[radiant ice]

Have you not seen King Charles?

[fringe garden]

I absolutely love ER, but I was thinking about this last night. Gotta spend a lot of points getting ER and DD both. And Unbound just lets you rock out

[acoustic isle]

I prefer the speak softly and carry a big stick mentality of good ol' Teddy

[radiant ice]

ER is great but it's penalty is way steeper than at a glance

[zinc phoenix]

ER seems like an iffy pick in havoc

[radiant ice]

It's not just your regen speed, or coherency

[haughty star]

Yeah it's kind of a waste imo for a unbound build

[radiant ice]

Any skill, talent, node, blessing that would give you 10% toughness for example, is now 7.5%

(Roughly)

[haughty star]

6.6 and you lose so much picking that

[radiant ice]

Even running an Essence Harvest Warp Charge build

You go down from 30% toughness regen per elite kill to 20%

And that's a build most would typically pick ER

[zinc phoenix]

It’s funny but I feel like what I most want in havoc on my team is a lasgun vet 😂

[radiant ice]

Results in some builds taking Penetration of the Soul, which is god awful, but the only way to avoid ER if you want Warp Charges without it

[plucky flax]

Someone pls carry me this havoc

[haughty star]

Pots doesn't work lol

[radiant ice]

It's beyond terrible

[zinc phoenix]

I’m only at 23 😂

[haughty star]

Like at all unless they fixed it

Literally does nothing

[radiant ice]

But it lets you get Warp Charges without ER for builds that it's needed

[plucky flax]

Blighted + pox gas (but no green stims)

[radiant ice]

It works but only on warp attacks you make

So it does work now on Inferno Staff, Smite, Electrostaff etc.

[zinc phoenix]

Gonna need a zealot with the corruption reduction on their book tbh

[radiant ice]

I use that!

[plucky flax]

Yeah will have to.

[radiant ice]

Hold on where's my Zealot meme build

[zinc phoenix]

Maybe also a vet with the med bag trait

[plucky flax]

The pox gas modifier in havoc doesn't give green stims around the map.

[radiant ice]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d9c2d3c-2214-41d8-a66c-00d1d1e0918f/bible-thumper

[plucky flax]

It's bs.

[radiant ice]

This is my support carry meme build

5 second book cooldown at perfect play

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I noticed, we got like one stim the whole run at 23 I was gasping

[radiant ice]

Which is why no toughness regen really

Always have gold toughness

[zinc phoenix]

I have a massive dr massive toughness gen vet that just does that and it handles pox really well but I am busy for the next 3hrs

[nocturne dust]

The reason I take both is that ER lets you stay in Scrier's longer which lets you get bigger buffs which lets you kill more even during Warp Unbound time. Voidstrike really doesn't get much of the stacking buffs otherwise.

[onyx sentinel]

had a shitter quit 5 minutes into my first havoc game

not too bad of a run, thought havoc 16 would be harder than auric mael

[nocturne dust]

It is, but I wouldn't take Voidstrike in the first place. EK and Voidstrike don't fair very well.

[onyx sentinel]

what does this do exactly

[plucky flax]

It's still heresy.

When you get to 21+ it becomes completely different.

[radiant ice]

Enemies bleed and if you stand in the blood, you get corruption

[plucky flax]

It's the goop on the floor.

[onyx sentinel]

that's fucked, those nurgle blessed elites tanked 4 full charged surge rmb

[plucky flax]

Yeah enemies has increased mass and hp.

Everything is so tanky.

[onyx sentinel]

not too keen about that tbh

if they could just add the non-spongy modifiers to auric mael that'd be great

[haughty star]

The reason I don't is because you miss out on mettle and perfect timing, perilous and quick shards which is a huge nerf to the build as a whole imo. Can always quell more to gather scriers stacks, it caps at 30 after all and one ball is more than capable of a third of that. Scriers barely has any downtime if you have ability cdr on curios

[plucky flax]

I've been hosting so I got 0.

[onyx sentinel]

first time I've had to actively sprint slide to cover the shooters aren't fucking around

[clear heath]

I can't host havocs anymore.
Error 9999

[haughty star]

You balled too hard

[clear heath]

had a havoc game crash for everyone and now it errors every time i try to host

thanks fatshark

[haughty star]

Time to dust off the ol bubble builds

[nocturne dust]

Perilous by itself is actually super small damage contribution, especially on voidstrike which will just kill everything downwind of it anyway. Assail has 10 charges, that's plenty for when it actually has a use, so quick shards are unneeded. Mettle isn't that significant. Perfect Timing does hurt, but it hurts a lot less than getting hit with way too much peril all the time. You will spend a lot of extra time quelling, which will eat your damage harder than a 15% drop.

[zinc phoenix]

Had that happen yesterday on an 18. Managed to get thru with the bot but it sucked

[haughty star]

Thays alot of copium downplaying some of the best perks in psyker tree

Perilous is never really small lol

And with assail weaving neither is quick charges

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, you can call it what you like but I've tested it and it does work better than the normal build for pure damage.

[clear heath]

honestly you can give up perilous on builds that have no other sources of soulblaze

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[haughty star]

Nah it's stupid when it's one pick away lol

[summer prairie]

kinetic flayer is higher damage than PC with no other source

[plucky flax]

Wanna join? We're 3

[nocturne dust]

Not when every other talent on the build is needed way more than Perilous

[haughty star]

Er isn't needed

[zinc phoenix]

Same, it’s infuriating

[nocturne dust]

lmao

[clear heath]

sure i'll hop on now

[nocturne dust]

I literally explained why ER is needed

[plucky flax]

Super cancer modifiers.

[haughty star]

You literally can't explode for 10 seconds and your cope was building scriers stacks lol

Makes no sense to me and is deffo a super subjective pick for 4 perks lol

[zinc phoenix]

IMO in the mid 20s havoc you gotta start building for the modifiers and making it work with the fighting

[nocturne dust]

Your cope is Scrier's cooldown

[fiery stratus]

@plucky flax restarting too, my sessions been long and i dont wanna risk memory leak

[zinc phoenix]

Unlike in auric mael where you build for fight and make it work with the modifiers

[nocturne dust]

K. Sad I can't explain it to you, but also not my problem, lmao.

[haughty star]

Yeah it sucks that subjective things are subjective huh

Perilous on the other hand is far less subjective lol

Thats just stupid

[nocturne dust]

You call everything subjective and then say Perilous is not, lmao.

[fiery stratus]

Guys, recon gunner after hammertime

[acoustic isle]

Hell yeah fight it out lads

[summer prairie]

that's me

[fiery stratus]

my shitting face tbh

[acoustic isle]

I need the entertainment to get through the work day

[fiery stratus]

just think about vidya

im off today, only reason im on rn

[acoustic isle]

Perfectly rolled stats i say

Now to just get that bad boy consecrated

Then change the perks and blessings

[rugged halo]

yea, that 4% warp resistance is hilarious

everything else almost maxed out. warp res becoming a true dump XD

[zinc phoenix]

Idk I’ve been hitting the special hard, I don’t think it’s a good dump

[late yew]

So is Havoc basically Weaves from vt?

[feral verge]

warp resist is a good dump

low warp resist means more peril, more peril means more toughness regen

[zinc phoenix]

I prefer dumping defense to 60

[summer prairie]

it's not really weaves since it's random

[zinc phoenix]

Shooters have been the big threat and you gotta have free peril to manage them

[haughty star]

It doesn't make sense to hit the special more than when fully empowered. Fgs dodges suck ass so that's why people recommend not dumping defense

[feral verge]

toughness was created to protect you from shooters

[zinc phoenix]

That’s nice

[feral verge]

more peril means more toughness regen using psyker talents

you laugh, but its true. DT uses toughness to protect you from shooter chip

[zinc phoenix]

All ima say is that in the havoc 25 I tried toughness was not enough and I wanted more special

[feral verge]

thats why Vt doesnt ahve toughness--less range emphasis

[zinc phoenix]

Because the shooters were monsters

[haughty star]

The special does nothing without being empowered lol

[zinc phoenix]

It staggers things when I approach

[haughty star]

Just wasting time doing that instead of something that will actually kill them

[feral verge]

it staggers, but that's about it

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, stagger good

[zinc phoenix]

Stopping a gunner mid volley is huge

[feral verge]

psyker has other options that can kill AND stagger

[nocturne dust]

As soon as you figure out how to stagger an infinite number of enemies in front of you, call me

[zinc phoenix]

And you will need all of them

[feral verge]

better than spaming tier 0 special

[broken carbon]

shriek

[nocturne dust]

now do it again

[broken carbon]

warp charges

[nocturne dust]

also you take bubble in havoc

[zinc phoenix]

Is on cooldown, you die

[broken carbon]

not me though

[nocturne dust]

cooldown, ded

[haughty star]

Assail lol

[broken carbon]

there’s zero point to heavy attacking with the special

right

[nocturne dust]

You don't play psyker

[broken carbon]

i actually have been lol

[feral verge]

no meaninful difference that i can see

[broken carbon]

i’ve despaired too much about how bad zealot is

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve seen extremely good zealots get fucking melted by shooters its nuts

[nocturne dust]

color me shocked

[broken carbon]

zealot’s so fucking bad rn

[haughty star]

They probably have more psyker levels than you tbh lol. Psyker is deffo not her main but she's kind of obsessed lol

[broken carbon]

ogryn tier tbh

[half plover]

sciers gaze with great sword is very fun

[nocturne dust]

yeah yeah

[broken carbon]

hasn’t gotten a single rework since talent trees came out, while every other class has

[nocturne dust]

I believe you baz

[broken carbon]

every zealot build looks the same

[zinc phoenix]

Is still mental in AM but havoc seems designed to hard counter them 😂

[broken carbon]

how many psyker levels are u?

i’m

254

[echo root]

Who and why

[broken carbon]

284*

[nocturne dust]

I dunno 🤷‍♂️

[zinc phoenix]

Shooters and gunners are that bad

[broken carbon]

it was a statement, the gunners are so bad you need bubble

[nocturne dust]

I don't track but uuuuhhhhh ramses can look

[echo root]

Huh

I only did one havoc yesterday, so cannot speak from experience.

[nocturne dust]

I'm in the 200s as well last I recall

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been doing wall to keep zealots alive

[broken carbon]

even in AM they’ve gotten powercrept so hard by every other class

psyker now does melee better

vet has done melee better since ever

ogryn picks are

ogryn picks

[mossy oyster]

damn

both you and cica are 🙃 doomer maxxing this update

that sucks

[broken carbon]

yarp

[echo root]

Zealot is bad?

[feral verge]

no

[echo root]

What is this copium

[feral verge]

zealot is not bad lmfao

[mossy oyster]

idk i havent tried it in havoc yet

ill probably try zeal in havoc later

[nocturne dust]

Zealot is bad (in havoc)

[echo root]

Zealot and Vet are the #1 most broken classes by a huge margin

[zinc phoenix]

At the very tippy top of the skill distribution yes

[broken carbon]

hell no lmfao

[echo root]

Veteran takes the cake with shout

[mossy oyster]

but remember havoc is supposed to literally counter everyone existing

so

[echo root]

Zealot really close with Shroudfield

[broken carbon]

psyker, then vet, then zealot, then ogryn

[upper sun]

there is NOTHING wrong with ogryn aside from the new eapons being slop outside of gunlugger

[echo root]

Big cope, start doing shroudfield + DS

[broken carbon]

DS is useless in havoc

[zinc phoenix]

I think psyker melee is insanely good rn

[feral verge]

nope

[nocturne dust]

The game shouldn't be balanced around havoc

[echo root]

Havoc released yesterday, there's no way it's already solved.

[broken carbon]

i know

[zinc phoenix]

But like you’re still dealing with the “miss a shotty and die” issue

[patent mango]

havoc defo made meleeing scary with the goop enemies

[broken carbon]

hitmass increases and health increases to hordes makes the ds struggle to kill poxwalkers

[nocturne dust]

Psyker being best in havoc makes sense because havoc makes you not want to get hit, and you don't want to get hit as psyker

[upper sun]

dont forget guies we got a base toughness buff

[echo root]

You have flamer for horde mobs

Throwing dagger for snipas

[zinc phoenix]

Take a long reach weapon and back up while melee, I never get gooped

[broken carbon]

you don’t have infinite ammo

[patent mango]

funny gs

[broken carbon]

health increases make throwing knives much weaker

[patent mango]

sometimes i saw people just stand in goop and lose so much hp

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma beats flamer for sure

[patent mango]

lmao

[echo root]

Okay run Evis + Bolter then.

[broken carbon]

i do

[autumn lark]

cyn you are coping extremely hard

at high havoc just run chorus

[patent mango]

at high havoc just run 4 greatswords

[zinc phoenix]

Chorus is super good rn

[nocturne dust]

4 zealots with Chorus

[slate oasis]

I remember a long while back they buffed telekine shield by giving it a grace period so it can't get instantly destroyed, but reading the ability it doesn't actually mention that.
anybody happen to know how long that grace period is?

[potent echo]

did they buff chorus or

[nocturne dust]

[zinc phoenix]

You need what it gives way more in havoc

[broken carbon]

it’s so difficulty now in high havoc, that chorus is borderline required

[echo root]

No, but at the other difficulties you just kill everything before chorus becomes relevant.

[nocturne dust]

not off the top of my head, no

[viral estuary]

whats the best single target damage staff i can run with my smite?

[potent echo]

how about smykers

[echo root]

Check the datamine

[broken carbon]

it’s probably in kuli’s guide

[upper sun]

guess who doesnt have that issue ogryn since rocks have a kill flag not HP damage

big boys winning once more......

[broken carbon]

frown

blitz’s should scale to difficulty

[potent echo]

do zealots actually lose dreg gunner breakpoints for knives

[nocturne dust]

incoming nerf from Fatshark

[upper sun]

tfw i lived long enough to see cyn crash out 😭

[mossy oyster]

that is actually insane to learn about

pretty cool

[broken carbon]

pus hardened damage resist makes it lose BP, and a lot of specialists lost those BPs too

[broken carbon]

this isn’t a crash out

lmfao

[mossy oyster]

cica does the crashing out for her

[upper sun]

ill take what i can get ok?

[broken carbon]

i just despair

[nocturne dust]

You better believe Ogryn is going to be the worst class, and Fatshark will ensure it with nerfs

[potent echo]

pus hardened is anti ranged damage right?

[broken carbon]

i think so

[upper sun]

back of the line shoutie

an ogryn is speaking

[mossy oyster]

iirc pus hardened is burgle blessed

basically

(maybe)

[potent echo]

they seem to die just as fast to melee

[zinc phoenix]

Ogryn has always had strong builds they’re just boring af to play

[potent echo]

but super tanky against ranged

[autumn lark]

pus hardened only gives ranged DR

[late sapphire]

Pus hardened is ranged dr

50% or so

[mossy oyster]

ah that makes sense

[broken carbon]

yah dealing 500 damage to a dreg rager on a tknife headshot to a pus enemy

[late sapphire]

Sucks bigtime

[acoustic isle]

Yep they still stagger thankfully

[broken carbon]

is insane

[potent echo]

gun nerfs lol

[autumn lark]

if you have pus you will be forced into melee

[acoustic isle]

The stagger res on nurgles blessing was the bad part

[autumn lark]

do not try to force ranged damage it will not work

[late sapphire]

Crit voidstrike ball failed to kill a pus hardened gunner

[potent echo]

i tried shooting a pushardened poxwalker

[late sapphire]

Hell

[zinc phoenix]

Soulfire stay winning

[potent echo]

[nocturne dust]

No, they are impressive in some ways but their lack of mobility hits really hard and is in no way made up by their other attributes

[acoustic isle]

Luckily i got smite and bubble

Go to town friends

Melee them all

[potent echo]

smite ez game

[broken carbon]

yah i don’t like a lot of these new changes, specifically the change to horde hitmass and health

[potent echo]

is there anything that counters smite

[late sapphire]

I think ds ek shriek smite cancer is 100% immune to havoc modifiers

[broken carbon]

i know high havoc is meant to be BS

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1313803542196391936/elmopsyker.gif

[broken carbon]

but

[acoustic isle]

A team not killing the ragers rushing you

[mossy oyster]

that sounds about right

[acoustic isle]

[potent echo]

but smite stuns ragers

ez game

[acoustic isle]

But when the smite ends

[potent echo]

no it doesnt

[upper sun]

smite never ends

[acoustic isle]

And the ragers are still in your face

[upper sun]

ever

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah but you can still smoke ragers if the don’t spawn inside you

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[acoustic isle]

Ah i see my mistake

[potent echo]

seems like someone isnt running eppy

[broken carbon]

let go of smite before it ends itself and it’ll throw them to the floor

[potent echo]

smhmh

[late sapphire]

After smite is before smite

[upper sun]

NOOOOOO do not share that info

now i have to aim down to melee

[tranquil plume]

what i think about smite : i hope the team will do something about it

[upper sun]

😭

[broken carbon]

it’s the same as playing with a trauma staff lol

[late sapphire]

You know

[potent echo]

trauma staff isnt nerfed either

[late sapphire]

I love the fgs overheads

[tranquil plume]

what staff to pair with the greatsword then

[potent echo]

so real kings of havoc is trauma and maybe purg

[late sapphire]

But i wish they went schwing and had a 3x crit multiplier

[potent echo]

none

[zinc phoenix]

Taking anything that gives brittle is good rn

[upper sun]

the difference is im the trauma user

[nocturne dust]

any of them really

[potent echo]

if you bring staff you arent swinging your sword that much

[tranquil plume]

i see

[lean mural]

okay i'm pretty convinced about scriers/smite/DD/GS

in that a pogryn's last action before death was to stomp and send me over a ledge to instadeath, and then the mission fell apart immediately because i was apparently carrying

[potent echo]

if you arent swinging it you arent getting essence

[nocturne dust]

The charge is an unnecessary gimmick most of the time

[potent echo]

if you want a secondary melee weapon ds4 is already the best

[primal aurora]

I don't like that you get essence only from sword kills

[potent echo]

or an illisi with slaught

[nocturne dust]

Sure but what if I want variety

[late sapphire]

You have to pay attention to the direction you engage bosses from

[nocturne dust]

[potent echo]

sure but someone else is asking not you

[nocturne dust]

actually I think force gs is better than Illisi on staff builds

[lean mural]

it should have been dead by that point, i was murdering it tae fuck

[potent echo]

hard doubt

[lean mural]

team was unfortunately not really on it

[tranquil plume]

do i bring brain buster for monster fight ?

[nocturne dust]

Illisi suffers without DD and Scrier's

Math not hard

[late sapphire]

Fgs and ds both shred bosses

[zinc phoenix]

Better to have dedicated boss killer

[acoustic isle]

Brain burst is perfectly valid as a monstrosity killer

[zinc phoenix]

Everyone on team should have role

[late sapphire]

Bb suuuucks

[acoustic isle]

But not the end all

[zinc phoenix]

BB is good in havoc imo

[tranquil plume]

cuz i use that keystone that gives me 3 free brain buster cast

[nocturne dust]

no it ain't

[potent echo]

does BB get resisted by pushard

[zinc phoenix]

Having a way to quick kill gunners is so clutch

[nocturne dust]

no it ain't. Again.

[tranquil plume]

and if i target elites i can kill them for free

[late sapphire]

Psyker role: everything killer and team carrier

[broken carbon]

not without hyper building into it, and then you sacrifice so much

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark, buff base BB

[broken carbon]

real

[tranquil plume]

then smite ?

[nocturne dust]

wat

no

[potent echo]

smite ez game

[broken carbon]

3 ep charges to kill a bulwark makes me so sad

[tranquil plume]

cuz assail is counter productive vs the greatsword

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah but why

[potent echo]

assail is good for FGS because malefic is so good

[broken carbon]

why what

[zinc phoenix]

You can melee them or trauma them

No need to bb

[nocturne dust]

😭

[broken carbon]

waiting for opening (takes forever if there’s multiple)

take trauma staff (no)

[lean mural]

the small amount of times that GS special isn't memey, it's necessary

there was a fuckin huge mob of shits on a guy in need of rez and i just deleted it

[potent echo]

force sword push

[nocturne dust]

you could take EK staff

[slate oasis]

ok finally found it. apparently it's 6.5 seconds

[nocturne dust]

You could take Voidstrike

[potent echo]

EK staff doesnt open them long enough for melee

[nocturne dust]

You could take Inferno

[acoustic isle]

M5 left click and watch as it gets less crowded all of a sudden

[nocturne dust]

EK will kill them

[potent echo]

inferno/trauma w

[nocturne dust]

[late yew]

So 16 is the highest havoc right now?

[potent echo]

EK will kill them like

[broken carbon]

40 is

[potent echo]

6 surges later

[broken carbon]

16 is what you start at

[nocturne dust]

[acoustic isle]

16 is the highest you can start at

[potent echo]

but if you fight 4 bulwarks with horde mixed inside uhh

[echo root]

I started at 10

[zinc phoenix]

25 pretty tough

[nocturne dust]

Use +unyielding dummy

[potent echo]

goodluck?

[late yew]

So how do i increase it?

[echo root]

Win

[zinc phoenix]

Start winning

[potent echo]

EK with +unyielding..

[late yew]

I did win

[nocturne dust]

is good

[potent echo]

like against reapers and bulwarks only?

and bosses

[late yew]

Also why suddenly so many psykers lol

[nocturne dust]

And all elites

[potent echo]

🤢

[nocturne dust]

and all specials

[zinc phoenix]

I think is gonna be very hard to pug above 30

[nocturne dust]

It still kills the things

[potent echo]

it does kills the things

[broken carbon]

force GS and gunner stun removal makes melee psyker fun

[potent echo]

but i want to kills the things fasterer

hence gun

gunker king

[echo root]

Me and a friend did a whole matching while hoping it would backfill.

It doesn't backfill

[nocturne dust]

and you will do so with +unyielding

[zinc phoenix]

Nope

[stable summit]

guys

[nocturne dust]

🤢

[stable summit]

need your help

is this build ok?

[potent echo]

why wildfire with EK

[echo root]

This looks similar to the smite monkey build I posted a while ago

[nocturne dust]

wdym, that makes sense

[potent echo]

battle mediation get rid of it

PT is free 15% damage

[nocturne dust]

EK is a soulblaze staff in disguise

[potent echo]

oh its a EP smite build

[late yew]

Wait what stun removal?

[nocturne dust]

it enables PC, combine with shriek and wildfire

[stable summit]

i want a build to sue mainly new sword

[potent echo]

berhaps

[echo root]

Every staff is a soulblaze staff when you run perilous + wildfire + blazing vent

[nocturne dust]

🅱️erhaps

[nocturne dust]

yes

[potent echo]

i guess this build doesnt have that much else worth picking up anyway

unless toughy

[stable summit]

wait

i posted wrong one

xd

[light belfry]

what is the better variant of the force greatsword? if it is clear cut

[nocturne dust]

Mk 6 imo

[acoustic isle]

Honestly both are good just a matter of swing animations

[nocturne dust]

but it's not clear

[acoustic isle]

I personally like 6

[nocturne dust]

Some weirdo degenerates like mk 8

[grim pike]

i like 6 for the second heavy attack

[stable summit]

this is the build for greatsword i crafted

[broken carbon]

gunner hitstun is gone, and shotgunner knockback is too

[acoustic isle]

The 6 just feels easier to handle elites with personally and that's what i want it for mainly

[broken carbon]

(me)

[acoustic isle]

But it has plenty of horde clearing

[broken carbon]

the PA stab does really good damage

crusher one shot…

yummers…..

[stable summit]

perfect timing?

[nocturne dust]

Mk 6 does good stab damage too tho, and not locked behind PA

[acoustic isle]

The 6 gets good horizontals if you light into heavy after the push too

In case you need to wack crowds

[nocturne dust]

You can't oneshot crushers anyway without buffs, and at that point you can do it fairly easily with either mark

[acoustic isle]

And yeah

Outside of dedicated active buffs

You'll take 2 to 3 heavies to kill say a crusher

[potent echo]

i dont think you can oneshot crushers with mk6..

unless its also a crit

but even then its a stretch

like you need max SG

[nocturne dust]

The mk 8 doesn't do that much more damage on its stab

[acoustic isle]

Usually things like gunners and shotgunners are down in 1-2 heavies no matter what

Ragers die pretty fast too

[potent echo]

im fine with 2 shotting crushers 🤷‍♂️

we live in a thrustless world...

[acoustic isle]

Mind you i say all this assuming your hits are weakspot hits

[haughty star]

I like the braindead horde clear on the 8

But i haven't tried the 6

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-w-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-deleted-gif-25440636

[stable summit]

so is this viable or dogshit?

[potent echo]

i prefer the 6 wield heavy

8 wield heavy vanguard throws me off

[acoustic isle]

Perfectly fine for either gs. Just gotta be mindful of survivability and making sure stuff is active when going for kills

[stable summit]

yeah

[zinc phoenix]

It’s palpatine meme. Severe skill ceiling

[stable summit]

survibility isnt good for me

[haughty star]

There's one super high damage heavy in the chain for 8 but I haven't got the feel for it yet. Weapon is super clunky but justifiably so

[potent echo]

i was playing with a mk8 FGS psyker and by the time he pushed attack a crusher it was already dead

[acoustic isle]

I personally prefer to just give up the damage for dome and warp siphon

Good damage from warp siphon stacks

But then good cd on dome after using them

[haughty star]

I don't think push attack is the way at least not initially. There's a heavy in 8s chain early on with super high impact that I like to hit before I do that cuz it kinda bowls em back

[broken carbon]

SG DD

precog

oh

mk6

yah idk

[potent echo]

ah precog

probably the missing sauce

[acoustic isle]

Precog was the extra finnesse damage right?

[potent echo]

yea

60%

and the stab has like around 2x damage on weakspot crits

so a crit headshot with precog active is gonna

[rugged halo]

jesus fatshark, why cant you ever get the cloth physics right the first time around.

i bought the new krieg outfit for my psyker. and the cloth physics on the tail of the coat, non-existent. coats as stiff as a board.

[potent echo]

also, i think FGS is killing my game fps

whenever its charged my FPS just drops

[quartz barn]

Atleast it doesnt crash the game like zealot 2h

[potent echo]

seal of quality

[sullen bobcat]

All that mud dried on

[quartz barn]

Modders fixing all crashes in 5 min

[scarlet mulch]

Heyo, quick question;
Does the "toughness regeneration speed" buff on curiosities refer to the overall toughness regeneration in proximity of allies? Or are there other kinds affected too?

[rugged halo]

applied to much corpse starch was my first guess XD

[quartz barn]

Just proximity

[scarlet mulch]

thank u, nut

[quartz barn]

Depending on who you ask its either S tier or F tier because of that

Imo its S tier

[scarlet mulch]

I got it on all three and never have problems with toughness; but I'm running inferno staff + shield bubble, so it's kind of obsolete

[sullen bobcat]

Yeah if you're constantly in active combat, it's useless

[quartz barn]

Only if you get hit

Hence the s vs f tier

[lean mural]

nobody literally never gets hit

also coherency toughness is disabled if any enemy is close enough to even think bad thoughts about you

so yes if you're in melee more than like 10% of the time, toughness regen curio bad

[onyx sentinel]

does scrier works with surge staff

[young ridge]

yeah regen is ass tier

[sullen bobcat]

Yes

I use scryer for my crit staff builds. It's fun.

I strive for constant anxiety during my gameplay. It gets the blood going

[spice flame]

most sane dt player

[pliant coral]

jesus christ it took me 50 tries to get a perfectly rolled blaze force greatsword

[patent mango]

accurate psyker

[pliant coral]

got like 4-5 with 60% defences >.>

[spice flame]

tho the more I play the more aggressive and front line I become

[hazy moss]

i remember seeing some clips of the fgs chaining two horizontal slashes into a block and repeat, which mk was able to do this?

[sullen bobcat]

I use scryer for a crit void strike and crit blaze trauma build

[spice flame]

thus, being more stressful than just spamming bowling ball from behind

[sullen bobcat]

Go voidblast staff,.go to Frontline, spend the entire game blasting your feet

[spice flame]

Yeah dw I do that haha

[sullen bobcat]

It's the true psyker way

[spice flame]

Tho I'm more of a purga enjoyer

At first I was using bubble to close the distances with gunners, now I just zip zap all around and fry their asses

Funnier

[late yew]

Why it would not be hitscan,,?

[spice flame]

Hitstun

Not hitscan

[broken carbon]

hitstun

stun

not scan

[patent mango]

i think they should replace gunners with homing projectile units

[spice flame]

I think they sould introduce rogue psykers using assail and BB

If they lock into you you're dead

[feral verge]

yeah

[patent mango]

cut them in half with charge 2 special to show whos the real psyker

tbh bb enemy psykers would work like in cyberpunk

u get like a countdown before you hecking explode

[spice flame]

That's, at the same time, a very good idea, and an awful one

[patent mango]

and it'd highlight the rogue psyker

[vital hemlock]

what are the best mastery for the blaze force sword?

[feral verge]

i think havoc would be way better if they made it so when you take ANY damage (including toughness dmg), its an instant loss, and you are delevelled to level 1, and all your gear is destroyed. and then, from now on, if you take any damage in any game, you get reset back to 1 again

[feral verge]

what do you mean

blessings and perks?

[vital hemlock]

found it, but yes

[feral verge]

this is what i run

elites can be swapped to unyielding damage

[potent echo]

hmmm

idk if i want elites or unyielding

i currently have unyielding

[feral verge]

yoshi and arcotash prefer unyielding

[potent echo]

sometimes I heavy dreg gunner head and he lives

[vital hemlock]

that is the greatsword, but i found it already

[feral verge]

and they are also good at the game

[potent echo]

annoying

[feral verge]

so you can just copy them

[cosmic sigil]

Sounds like... "Cadia Wastes!!!"

[feral verge]

for the regular force swords, blessings and perks are decided by which mark you are using, and what you want to use the sword for

[vital hemlock]

i am going to be honest

[feral verge]

for instance, i use this deimos for single target + boosting soulblaze damage

[vital hemlock]

i have no clue what is going on

[feral verge]

that's okay

[spice flame]

same brother

[feral verge]

ask questions

[spice flame]

what is going on

[patent mango]

where am i who are you

[spice flame]

[rugged halo]

so how would you set up a fgs for crowd control?

[vital hemlock]

like what is the difference between mastieries and blessing

they seem to give the same things

[rugged halo]

masteries give blessings

[upper sun]

if you take any damage a fatshark employee goes to your house and personally decks you in the face at level 40

[hazy moss]

i remember seeing some clips of the fgs chaining two horizontal slashes into a block and repeat, which mk was able to do this?

[quartz barn]

Mk6

[vital hemlock]

so if I only level two mastery thingies I will only get those blessings?

[late yew]

at what level havoc starts getting tough?

[quartz barn]

Mk8 is better for hordes, but the mk6 has the stab heavy which is way better

[late yew]

17 piss easy so far

literally easier than normal auric

[rugged halo]

mastery allows you to unlock blessings. at level 2 you'd have about 4 different blessings you could unlock.

[spice flame]

17 is still heresy

[hazy moss]

what’s the combo to do that move again?

[quartz barn]

Reason you light twice into block on mk6 is because the third light is an overhead

The stab on the mk6 is the second heavy

So either heavy into heavy, or light into heavy

[broken carbon]

mk8 can one shot a crusher on the stab

[quartz barn]

Mk8 has no stab, thats mk6

[broken carbon]

it does have one

[hazy moss]

so can the illsi, comes down to how much setup is needed

[feral verge]

mastery is what allows y ou to unlock blessings

[broken carbon]

push attack, into heavy

[broken carbon]

it’s like 2k damage into carapace with minimal buffs up

[haughty star]

I like wrath

[vital hemlock]

if I level masteries further do I instantly get it upgraded on a weapon

like if I go from deflector 1 to 2

will my weapon still have deflector 1

[zinc phoenix]

20s, you aren’t even in auric mael diff yet

[haughty star]

Wrath and momentum feel good on the 8. The chain in heavy one taps most things without damage blessings

[rugged halo]

no

[patent mango]

oh my hecking god my chat broke again

[feral verge]

you will ahve to manually upgrade t1 deflector to t2

[spice flame]

speaking of chat

is chat block working again ?

[quartz barn]

Nice didnt know this, also both light and heavy after push does a stab

[patent mango]

yes

[autumn lark]

Have you tried push attacking?

[spice flame]

Cool

[broken carbon]

yah but the heavy stab does incredible damage

[quartz barn]

Also no i dont really push attack xd

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-cat-facepalm-cat-bruh-bru-gif-3855516381892795428

[quartz barn]

I mean

I just held attack after the push

[patent steeple]

imagine if they nerf its carapace dmg soon... that would suck...

[quartz barn]

Like most other push attacks

[hazy moss]

https://tenor.com/view/saiki-k-saiki-saiki-kusuo-dragon-ball-z-dragon-ball-gif-25935752

[autumn lark]

Yeah dont

[quartz barn]

And that just does the void grasp

[autumn lark]

Push attack have a quite complex moveset

[broken carbon]

FGS PA is very good

[quartz barn]

Yes yes i get it

[autumn lark]

You need to push attack light on the FGS mk8

I think

[zinc phoenix]

Heavy

[broken carbon]

push attack heavy

[autumn lark]

Or its push attack heavy chain

[broken carbon]

light is also a stab but it’s not as good obviously

[zinc phoenix]

The light is not the mega poke yeah

I didn’t love 8, it’s very fiddly to get the big dangerous stuff killed

[broken carbon]

wasn’t too bad from my experience

[zinc phoenix]

That’s usually the thing I want to be easy to access

[broken carbon]

normal heavies deal good enough damage

and i’ll usually use the stab for ogryns, mutants, and maulers

and stamina is never an issue because the regen delay

[zinc phoenix]

Mk6 has much easier access to the good heavies tho so that is better for what my brain can handle 😂

[quartz barn]

Ill prob stick to mk6 tho

[zinc phoenix]

Psyker melee brain be like “literally just spam lights”

[quartz barn]

With mk6 you just get to run in and spam attacks, heavies will oneshot anyway if you have the right setup

[patent steeple]

btw, am I the only one who uses Deimos on Gunker? I feel like Deimos has decent horde clear and good single target dmg, and DS4 light-spam is relatively worse at horde clear in my experience...

also, Deimos can block ranged shots, which makes it easier for me to use than DS4 on Gunker...

[broken carbon]

deimos is great

[zinc phoenix]

The “right” setup is a matter of dispute rn

And heavily game mode dependent

[quartz barn]

Fair

AM = average diff

[broken carbon]

horde clear is acceptable, but not great, it’s got great single target on l1 and h2

[haughty star]

Most of the time time spent deflecting could of been used better just killing what you're deflecting lol

[broken carbon]

methinks precog is BiS

and if ur taking SG, a crit blessing

[zinc phoenix]

I think all the weapons have different roles and it’s totally valid to use what feels good for you

[broken carbon]

otherwise probably unstable power

[broken carbon]

dclaw1

[haughty star]

It doesn't really need more damage imo if you're good with the combos

[zinc phoenix]

I watched Daleth hard carry a havoc 20 with dclaw including killing the captain and the megamutie

[broken carbon]

more damage lets you one shot crushers, maulers with mk8 stab, and heavies reach one shots on ragers

[broken carbon]

that’s awful

dclaw 1 though

??

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it was fucking bleak but they got it done 😂

We were going wild in chat

[broken carbon]

if he did that with dclaw mk1 then that’s extremely impressive

but i doubt that was dclaw1

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah I’d be shocked too

[broken carbon]

did he have any overhead heavies

[zinc phoenix]

My jaw was too glued to the floor to comprehend such things

But it was mostly parry spam

[broken carbon]

it was probably dclaw 7

[broken carbon]

yah fair

[zinc phoenix]

It’s what I’d expect also 😂

[torpid bough]

soyker meow

[broken carbon]

hell truly has frozen over

[torpid bough]

:) same

[zinc phoenix]

Not a bad look tbh

[broken carbon]

i need to get more psyker cosmetics

[spice flame]

I like the legs a lot

[mossy oyster]

mines better

: >

[torpid bough]

should i get the black and gold headpiece

[mossy oyster]

if you have something to go with it

[haughty star]

Crit heavies already do that with mk8. Idk the things got such pathetic cleave that I've found wrath is a must for me anyway, just feels bad without

[mossy oyster]

backpack actually fits super good on krieger chest

[late yew]

Havoc is such a bad design tbh

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie

[late yew]

Like at one point it will be impossible to rank up

due to having to have a party

[clear heath]

holy shit i hate pox gas

[plucky flax]

But it's not super difficult without gas.

[mossy oyster]

I run this with a similar chestpiece

(headpiece)

i mean

[clear heath]

also agent, has havoc ever put you in the wrong region or is it EU every time no matter who you run with?

[mossy oyster]

@torpid bough

homeless emperor

[torpid bough]

oh i want that one

[plucky flax]

No I think it's the host's region.

[torpid bough]

this is the gilded one

[broken carbon]

the cleave is great on it huh???

[plucky flax]

Where are you from?

[summer prairie]

that looks much easier

[clear heath]

I'm in NA and every time I queue with my friend, it puts me in europe

[clear heath]

I think the game has EU priority

[plucky flax]

I think whoever queue up take that person's server.

[tacit stump]

hello

[plucky flax]

I don't mind playing USE.

[mossy oyster]

yeah I like the gilded one but since I have just normal black

[clear heath]

1 european friend and 3 NA makes it EU

[mossy oyster]

its 10x better

[clear heath]

It does not

because it's my havocs and i'm the one queueing

[plucky flax]

Okay maybe havoc is just shit.

[clear heath]

and it puts us in EU

once he's gone it's NA

[tacit stump]

like weaves

[clear heath]

EU priviledge

even when he has NA selected, it ignores what he selected and puts us in EU

so it literally sees that 1 guy has EU ping

and puts us there

[sinful peak]

is it possible to get monster specialists in havoc

[plucky flax]

Hmm i have not seen.

[sinful peak]

damn that sucks

[plucky flax]

But they love to throw double bosses.

[summer prairie]

I saw code for monster specialists but with regular health for havoc

[plucky flax]

The captain + 1 monster.

[summer prairie]

slightly longer timers but that's it

[clear heath]

honestly still not as bad as pox gas

[plucky flax]

Pox gas would have been fine if it was normal with loads of green stims.

But it's super hard mode.

You touch gas you die edition

[spice flame]

There's no green stim galore on havoc pox gas ?

[clear heath]

even low havoc doesn't spam the green stims with pox gas

[plucky flax]

No.

[spice flame]

Cool

fuck this.

[clear heath]

havoc isn't kind enough

[plucky flax]

You have toughness and hp reduction. Enemies more mass and hit harder.

And no green stims

[hazy moss]

who doesnt like a little pox gas

[pliant coral]

not entirely sure i understand how the charge bars work on the new sword, anybody got an explanation?

[spice flame]

Shoot me in the head baby

[late yew]

I hate pox gas too , but just be patient and wait until gas subsides?

[plucky flax]

Gas + blighted veri fun

[broken carbon]

get kills, it charges up, the more charge, the more damage it does

[grim pike]

tzeetch ass knife

[plucky flax]

Yes but sometimes you have to push through or you're stuck forever.

[pliant coral]

oh, unrelated to using the special ranged slash thing?

[clear heath]

ngl it didn't help that I just get lost on that map

[zinc phoenix]

I like havoc because I feel like I have to get creative build wise to solve the problems

But I hate the lack of matchmaker

[plucky flax]

I recorded that gas game. Gonna upload tomorrow or something.

[zinc phoenix]

Getting a party is a ballache

[plucky flax]

I am reduced to support psyker now.

[spice flame]

ooOOOooh the misery

[clear heath]

I never thought i'd have to genuinely go support zealot

watching team toughness bars more than the game

[plucky flax]

Mfs put on momentum to survive havoc moment

[feral verge]

my drip