psyker-class

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/electroboom-electric-shock-electricity-kiss-electric-gif-24592346

Clad visualized

[spice flame]

I think I would have loved to be an electrician. If I wasn't TERRIFIED by electricity.

[cloud lodge]

Da batree bites back

[upper sun]

eh still i cant exactly do delivery because i cant ride a bike

[halcyon gust]

My general expectations when I see clips on that map are

• Barrel at least killing 1 or more players
• Bombers having a field day thanks to the limit play space
• You survive the first part, but get bodies at the first hold out of the level

[zinc phoenix]

It’s genuinely a safe job unless you’re working at industrial voltages

[autumn lark]

How

[spice flame]

Hmm

[upper sun]

this may come as a shock to your kind but not everyone uses bikes 24/7

[zinc phoenix]

I personally will not hire people who cannot ride bikes 😉

[upper sun]

i have a drivers license tho

[marble crater]

The way to and the first event can be brutal yeah

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/wack-whack-gif-26201100

[zinc phoenix]

But seriously go learn to ride a bike

[upper sun]

its over for me....

[spice flame]

wdym you can't ride a bike

[zinc phoenix]

It’s fun

[spice flame]

WDYM

[zinc phoenix]

And you can legally bike while drunk

[upper sun]

i never learned

[cloud lodge]

This reminds me of my shop class in HS
Teacher warned us like 3 days in a row that we were about to work with like full power house levels of electricity and to be careful
The exposed wire I touched had different plans
Minor jolt since I grazed it with the back of my hand

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/call-of-the-replacer-replacer-bo6-call-of-duty-black-ops-6-gif-11228093975009541965

[zinc phoenix]

My parents had me running wires for outlets off the breaker box at 13 😂

[upper sun]

hell even scooters i tried the E scooters they have everywhere and it was the most horrifying experience of my life

[autumn lark]

Say hi to your new daddy clad

Im gonna teach you how to ride a bike

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[upper sun]

do you have 485 euro for a small 10 minute train in your country?

[spice flame]

Ho I tried a e scooter once

[cloud lodge]

We just didn't have that kinda stuff to do here🤷🏻‍♂️

[upper sun]

cuz i fuckin dont

[spice flame]

I crashed 30sc in.

[autumn lark]

A what

Clad are you dumb

[cloud lodge]

Peak cinema

[upper sun]

i am making a joke because your trains are some of the most expensive in europe

[spice flame]

That shit has uncanny acceleration speed

[zinc phoenix]

And also your parents probably thought the life of their child had value 😂

[autumn lark]

For 50 bucks on craigslist or ebay you can get a perfectly fine bike

[autumn lark]

Its very dumb

[cloud lodge]

I'm just gonna leave that as "debateable"

[upper sun]

no u

[zinc phoenix]

Clad go play the hit new game Biketide

Fun fact, I was hit by a car while biking

[spice oar]

FORCE GREATSWORD TOMMOROW RAAAAAH

[upper sun]

man i already tore my calf just walking

a bike is gonna kill me for real

[zinc phoenix]

the bike was totaled and the car was smashed up but somehow I was fine

[spice flame]

"I guess that happened"

[upper sun]

bro built like vulkan

[cloud lodge]

Bro said nuh uh

[zinc phoenix]

Literally not a scratch, it was wild

And that’s why I don’t buy lotto tickets, burned all my luck

[cloud lodge]

Only car concern i had was getting love tapped by a van while doing the crosswalk

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah that’s terrifying

I had a friend in Norway get his leg smooshed by a bus

Small bus, basically a big van

[upper sun]

shit

[cloud lodge]

They really dont give a shit about the stop sign at the intersection i was on

[zinc phoenix]

But he’s been recovering for most of the year as a result

[cloud lodge]

The worst part is the T intersection is literally adjacent to the elementary school

[spice flame]

tbh I absolutely hate riding a bike in cities

[cloud lodge]

Got tapped walking home after walking lil bro to school

[spice flame]

terrifiying

[cloud lodge]

AY IM CYCLIN HERE

[spice flame]

Even tho I live in a city where there's quite a lot of bike lanes tbf

but some are shared with mf busses

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/tysin-punchout-gif-13060230

[cloud lodge]

Holy shit, They have a Mike Tysons Punch Out gif

Fun times on the ole NES😌

[zinc phoenix]

I love it if it’s a city like Amsterdam or NYC. If it’s Honolulu you’d need to put a gun to my head

[blissful solar]

the racist song parody for Mike Tyson's Punch Out comes to mind, against my will

[fiery stratus]

[spice flame]

Oh yeah I've been to Amsterdam, it's absolutely perfect for bikes

[cloud lodge]

Of all the memes and shitposts of my life journey, I have not encountered this or at the least dont remember it

[upbeat kestrel]

tell me forthe penence that rewuires to kill 4 different elites/specialist it actually needs to be different or shotgunner->rager->shotgunner->rager for example?

[cloud lodge]

I think its just 4

[zinc phoenix]

They’re great at giving you a lot of opportunities to ride all sorts of things over there. Bike, trains, ladies, you name it 😂

[cloud lodge]

The challenge is just popping 4 elites in that time frame

[zinc phoenix]

Just four of anything

[cloud lodge]

Like with a co ordinated team assisting you i imagine its easy to do but with randoms who just annihilate everything that's when its tricky

[upbeat kestrel]

in the description it says 4 different

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t remember it actually caring

[blissful solar]

I found it on YouTube, search "ytmnd mike tyson" and it should be near the top by the channel "junkman"

[fiery stratus]

[zinc phoenix]

The game often says things are so that aren’t so

[fiery stratus]

a certified hood classic

[cloud lodge]

Different is probably just an unnecessary word
Like, technically aint wrong
You are killing 4 different elites (cant kill the same guy twice afterall)

[spice flame]

I'd say it's just 4 elite/specialist regardless of what they are

idk I've done it randomly

[cloud lodge]

I'm just upset when I last checked I had it at 3/4

I just need to end up with one of those gunner rooms tbh

[autumn lark]

Hey fuckface

Did yoy go to the doctor yet?

[spice flame]

I love friendship.

[cloud lodge]

When using masks that change the voice, does it use a specific voice or does it actually alter whatever the normal voice you had was?

[spice flame]

Your voice

[cloud lodge]

Hm

Welp, just gonna have to get the mask first to see if I like it

[spice flame]

There's an option to disable the voice changing part of cosmetics

[cloud lodge]

And then ill pay 50k and rip out his vocal cords to put in new ones to try the other one

[spice flame]

if you don't like it

[cloud lodge]

I want the voice effect

[spice flame]

And I want love

[cloud lodge]

Its just a matter of if I like the voice of ze crazy one or the basic voice

[cloud lodge]

Relatable

[spice flame]

[upper sun]

no

its almost cleared up

[autumn lark]

I hate you so much

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

yeah i had a small tear in my calf

its almost cleared up now tho

[marble crater]

Did you get it from jumping off the map repeatedly during our mission?

[upper sun]

WOW

no i got it from jaywalking too quickly

[autumn lark]

Clad can be walking with an open ribcage and hell thug it out

[upper sun]

hell yeah

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-tisbutascratch-knight-funny-gif-9050905

[marble crater]

Well, I'm clad you are feeling better

[upper sun]

https://modernmanofthecloth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/man-cold.png
me when i get a cold

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-im-invincible-gif-3412315

me when i lose function in my leg

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/mgrr-monsoon-lean-slurp-venom-gif-24840495

Clad in 10 years

[spice flame]

Nice meme

I have to craft some sql scripts and I have no idea what I'm doing

[upper sun]

ask chatg

[plucky flax]

Recognised in mourning star and I am on zealot

[broken carbon]

lmfao

pawesome

[plucky flax]

I am agile pilled.

Well on vet anyway. Was just about to try a game with agile on zealot.

Although it has shorter dodge recovery so might not be needed.

[broken carbon]

vet i could see the argument for agile

but on zealot and psyker

nah

[spice flame]

Nah it's not great on zealot

You're already zippy enough imo

[broken carbon]

particularly if ur not taking WS

[plucky flax]

Ye zealot too fast.

[upper sun]

oh yeah let me get more dodges so i can dodge off ledges more efficiently

[nocturne dust]

ds5 agile

[plucky flax]

I didn't pay him

[upper sun]

maybe u should

[plucky flax]

But you know what else is better than ds4 on zealot? Lacerate uncanny knife.

[nocturne dust]

MmmmmmmmmMmmmmMmmmmMmmmmmmmMmmmmmm

[upper sun]

lac uncanny is legit

just mash m1

[nocturne dust]

I think ds wins

[runic kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-daring-today-spongebob-spongebob-meme-daring-today-arent-we-gif-23808696

[upper sun]

25% of your hits will be weakspots

easy rending

[nocturne dust]

Sword to skull tho

That's a teeth winner.

[runic kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/london-baby-friends-london-travel-gif-8734651

[plucky flax]

Okay why am I keep getting these crappy micro stutter

Do I need to play on medium settings?

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-gyllenhaal-angry-shake-mirror-scream-gif-16244849

GIVE ME SWORD

[upper sun]

same but devblog

im reasonable

[spice flame]

same but happiness

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[spice flame]

Or just sleep, would be fine too

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Greatsword

[patent mango]

its a new mod

[onyx sentinel]

what time does fs usually drop patches?

[upper sun]

tomorrow

[spice flame]

Nice I have 500 mods

[plucky flax]

Yes.

Can't wait to die without mods.

[runic kiln]

7hours off iirc

[plucky flax]

No cheat mods = I lose 90% of power.

[spice flame]

#general-chat message

[onyx sentinel]

Oh lol it’s still like 20hrs away

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[runic kiln]

I used to raid with someone that was like this in ff14. He had like mods to make his easy combos collapsed into the same button and couldn't play without his mods

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184257191746752583/1312599700876300379/-628920755_tremble.gif

tomorrow

[plucky flax]

I am nothing without mods.

[digital narwhal]

Wtf
Auto mod deleted my gifs

[onyx sentinel]

I don’t get how True Peril/Peril Gauge isn’t in the base game

[fiery stratus]

rekt

[plucky flax]

Playing auric mael with a lvl 29 and 13

[patent mango]

what am i meant to do without my cheat mod chatblock

[spice flame]

If you're nothing without mods then you don't deserve mods

[onyx sentinel]

So fucking stupid with the peril rounding

[patent mango]

its so busted to be able to actually chat safely

[spice flame]

[fiery stratus]

most of the mods i have are just quality of life shit that should just be in the game

why is there no fucking chat block

[patent mango]

i dont understand how chatblock is not in base game

[spice flame]

Or Numeric UI

[patent mango]

true

[spice flame]

me without numeric ui :

[digital narwhal]

Or Healthbars and Debuff Indicator :D

fr fr

[patent mango]

y'know it'd be hilarious if chat block was added literally tomorrow

[fiery stratus]

at least that has the excuse of being stylized and you have a gauge for it

but chatblock doesnt even exist even though its in vermintide

[marble crater]

Dev Blog when

[runic kiln]

Same issue as vt1 to vt2. Dwrktide was being made before vt2 was at that state. So it's missing some of the better stuff vt2 had

[runic kiln]

Between now and the heat death of the universe....I hope..

[fiery stratus]

More evidence that they need to do a sweeping quality of life patch

shortcuts for the shops on the mourningstar would be nice too

[spice flame]

there's a mod for that too

[gilded jackal]

I discovered that the game has 92000 sound files that aren't categorized in any way...

[quartz barn]

I just dont interact with the shop

[potent echo]

probably why no one has archived the conversations yet

[summer prairie]

yes and there's even a script of all the conversations you can extract but you still can't link them to the audio files

[quartz barn]

Would recommend you get automelk so you auto accept his bounties

[summer prairie]

despite the script also including some identifier

[potent echo]

less than 24h

[upper sun]

delete the mourningstar

[fiery stratus]

Yes theres mods for lots of things

I keep it pretty minimal usually though

[spice veldt]

2h force sword????

my god

[gilded jackal]

I kind of wish there was a way to not have other players in the mourningstar so it wouldn't take so fucking long to load it

[fiery stratus]

nah thats not the problem

thats a problem with the games optimization, reading from disc, and the shitty dedicated servers

[summer prairie]

it was pretty fast when darkcache worked

after the inital load into memory anyway

[blissful solar]

I wonder if someone could make a mod that slowly pieces together the script and character interactions. like it hears two characters have a convo, it knows what type of characters they are, it knows the text, and then it sends this information to a database we can all look at

[marble crater]

We do auto accept them now, right?

I remember this being a patch a few months ago

[gilded jackal]

you definitely do

[blissful solar]

yeah you don't need to worry about that anymore

[quartz barn]

Ngl i didnt even know that

[radiant ice]

Is there a way to resize hud elements with custom hud?

[fiery stratus]

Speaking of dialogue, ratling sniper confirmed

[radiant ice]

Looking at half my stuff sometimes like

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-cant-see-squint-gif-5056034

[spice veldt]

i don't think so
the resize option seems to only affect the view that you get in F3

i use hudtweaker to modify some parameters to get them smaller, but that's time-consuming

[radiant ice]

HUDTweaker!

I knew there was a mod out there somewhere for it

[spice veldt]

i also use crosshair HUD to get a smaller ult indicator, grenade indicator, and ammo indicator as their own UI elements

[radiant ice]

It's the opposite I need

[spice veldt]

ahh i misread

[radiant ice]

I am using Better Buff Management cause I want to track two specific buffs

But they so tiny

[spice veldt]

oh buff icons are a bit annoying to change

cuz you have to change the size of each and every buff icon slot

[patent mango]

buff icons in base game barely work

[radiant ice]

All i need is to double their size XD

[spice veldt]

yeah that'll work

you'll prob have to change 4 numbers per buff slot

[radiant ice]

That's fine, I have one bar with two buffs on it and nothing else

[spice flame]

Man

[radiant ice]

Just need those two buffs to be bigger

[spice veldt]

oh yeah that's manageable

[spice flame]

Your conversation gives me ptsd from the time I was playing FF14

[radiant ice]

So you know, they stand out at a glance compared to all the junk buffs

[spice flame]

I took hours to organize my UI

and then one day my game decided to reset everything

[spice veldt]

i'm sorry for your loss

that would make me very sad

[spice flame]

It's fine

I only have 2k hours on it

[radiant ice]

Hrmm

I can't seem to see my custom buff bar in tweaker

[spice veldt]

the name might be something else

[radiant ice]

Ahh

BuffBar is my custom, PlayerBuffs is the BuffBar

Gotcha

[spice veldt]

probably only need to change buff_1 and buff_2 assuming it's ordered properly, but i forget

[radiant ice]

Hmm

It's cool that Reset_tweaks does absolutely nothing

XD

[digital narwhal]

OMG 2H FORCE SWORD?!

[spice flame]

real ?

[digital narwhal]

real and true ?

[fiery stratus]

no

ai generated actually

[spice veldt]

fake and false

[zinc phoenix]

I’m gonna be sad if they merk ds because zealot and vet can use it with their mental melee buffs

[digital narwhal]

It was broken on Psyker too

[patent mango]

make a new ds mark thats broken in half

[spice veldt]

deserved on psyker as well

[digital narwhal]

even before it was brought to Zealot and Veteran

[patent mango]

give that to em

on psyker it was fine

[digital narwhal]

It was broken, and still is, on Psyker too

[spice veldt]

the numbers on the stab heavies are pretty obvious outliers https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1309287207139545179/image.png?ex=674edffb&is=674d8e7b&hm=e96e95d8214fb1fbde3267f3e29500e661aa86f2c913bc7217b3bd5ad917bc43&

notice the stab heavies being subtly 50% more damage than mk5 overhead heavies

a very subtle difference of course

[patent mango]

psyker is super fragile anyways

[spice veldt]

sure

doesn't mean they can't do damage

[digital narwhal]

Weapon was always broken either way

[zinc phoenix]

Its such a fun weapon because of the mobility, I don’t really care about the stabs

[plucky flax]

Psyker? Damage?

[patent mango]

woudl be nicer to just have more melee buffs instead though

[plucky flax]

Never happen.

[digital narwhal]

There are 2 other Duelling Swords and Combat Knives then

:D

[upper sun]

force knife soon

i have seen it

[zinc phoenix]

Like the big advantage of ds is that you can zip around everything and do reasonably solid damage. If I wanted just more damage I’d use an axe

[upper sun]

the special is a mini wall

[spice veldt]

yeah, that would be nice instead of loading a bunch of stuff into melee weapons for the sake of counterbalancing psyker

[zinc phoenix]

Also if the ds5 overheads weren’t total dog at actually landing a hit I’d use it over the ds2

[digital narwhal]

It does more damage than Axes though

[patent mango]

its just that i'd rather have op melees by this point

feels more reasonable than new talents

[zinc phoenix]

Sure I’m fine with that, I just don’t think they’ll do it

[mystic pawn]

Whats the worst stat for the voidblast force staff?

[patent mango]

pretty much

[analog agate]

Warp res

[spice veldt]

it's not like psyker is struggling to do damage in melee
I don't get why people want to just load psyker melee with a shit ton of damage when that is very obviously not the issue

[zinc phoenix]

Like I wish gunker and meleeker had separate trees in psyker

[digital narwhal]

Dump Warp Resistance

[zinc phoenix]

Instead you have this awkward split of one tree

[patent mango]

the real fix would just be a proper melee tree

[upper sun]

no

dump blast radius

[radiant ice]

Woo one down

[zinc phoenix]

Either blast radius or warp resistance are fine dumps

[upper sun]

pfff avery what do YOU know?

[radiant ice]

(Not the final position, just easier to see up there with all the menus open)

[zinc phoenix]

Oh voidBLAST not voidSTRIKE

Stupid naming

[analog agate]

BLAST not STRIKE

[digital narwhal]

Enough to know they didn't say Voidstrike

[zinc phoenix]

Another example of how fatshark randomly ruins perfectly good stuff

[upper sun]

damn... reading......

[spice flame]

ez to remember the names, voidSTRIKE cause you launch big bowling balls

[quartz barn]

I just use the old names

[upper sun]

shooty one dump blast aoe stagger one dump warp res

😭

[zinc phoenix]

It’s been the same names for over two years until they randomly changed it

[upper sun]

bring back old names

[zinc phoenix]

Hard to remember the new ones

[digital narwhal]

What's great about right side of Psyker is that almost all the buffs that benefit guns also benefit melee almost just as well.
Scrier's, DD, Malefic Momentum, etc.

[spice flame]

me who began to play just for the release of Unlock and loaded :

[zinc phoenix]

They could have just changed some blessing names and we’d have been fun

[patent mango]

except the true aim/surety tier

[zinc phoenix]

Only issue with splitting gunker and meleeker is one would have good access to the left side stuff like warp rider and peril based TDR and the other wouldn’t

[digital narwhal]

I forgor to say "almost all"

[patent mango]

yea

its so annoying too

i think its the only thing that only affects ranged now

[zinc phoenix]

This new tree is just mid tbh

[patent mango]

gimme a 3rd option for that tier or make true aim proc on melee

[spice veldt]

warp rider is in the middle and you can access one with the warp at the cost of requiring an extra point if you want anticipation

[zinc phoenix]

I’d rather they did it like the Diablo IV skill tree where you’ve got like 5 major nodes in a line and then a bunch of skill buffs spread out from each major node, all of which are equally accessible from that node

[zinc phoenix]

Yes but if you added a fourth trees dedicated for meleeker either it or gunker wouldn’t be able to reach it without a major point spend

[spice veldt]

wh

[upper sun]

tbh

[patent mango]

maybe it'd be way more reasonable to get a 4th keystone instead of a new tree too

[upper sun]

maybe just seperate blitz and ults from the tree

[patent mango]

for melee

[spice veldt]

first off, that's assuming that a 4th tree is going to get added
that's also assuming that it'll be added to the right side

[zinc phoenix]

Here is how the Diablo 4 tree does things by way of contrast

Note how much build flexibility it gives you

[spice flame]

It's true that the trees rn are lacking in flexibility

[patent mango]

y'know maybe a literal just +25 toughness node between true aim and surety of arms would work lmao

[zinc phoenix]

And the design makes them very hard to extend for fatshark

[spice flame]

yeah

[zinc phoenix]

Blizzard has many issues and Diablo 4 is imo pretty boring but the skill tree design is inspired

[analog agate]

Cause the trees are/were catering the promised 3 versions of a class

Well… not catering

Remnants

[radiant ice]

Nah that's wrong

[zinc phoenix]

Yes but that design model is clearly outdated and everyone wants to have more control and flexibility

[radiant ice]

The tree is replacement for the old system that was designed for new classes

[patent mango]

i just want melee psyker stuff

[analog agate]

Ya

Remnants

[radiant ice]

Not at all imo

Totally different systems

Fatshark just aren't the best at it XD

[analog agate]

They clearly had the 3 ideas all in place…

[potent echo]

i really like the current skill trees though

[tired estuary]

No I just want better designed trees

[potent echo]

although definitely there are improvements

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t, I think they force us down very boring and linear paths

[radiant ice]

This was the system designed for subclassing

The tree was introduced long after that idea was scrapped as a replacement

[analog agate]

Aye

[potent echo]

how less boring do you think psyker builds can be

[zinc phoenix]

It looks like you have a lot of choice but some nodes are so dominant that you’re either going to take them or you’re going to perform massively worse

[analog agate]

I’m confused on what we are talking about haha

[zinc phoenix]

For example vet who doesn’t take iron will is just lost

[potent echo]

i dont

[radiant ice]

I think I may be misunderstanding you XD

[spice veldt]

the structure aside, doing numerical tweaks would fix up a lot of things

[radiant ice]

But I mean, I don't think the remnants of the subclass idea is an excuse for the tree XD

[analog agate]

I think I misunderstanding everything

[cosmic sigil]

Iron shill

[zinc phoenix]

Or zealot skipping the three critical perks at the lower part of the tree

[spice flame]

As of right now, we're stuck on some paths to grab the most important skills

[radiant ice]

Especially not like what, 1.5 years after they scrapped the subclass idea and old skill selector

[spice flame]

Even if it means taking bad ones

And that kinda blows

[zinc phoenix]

Same with psyker where all the staff builds have shriek as virtually mandatory

[patent mango]

im hoping force gs will alleviate the melee issues psyker tree has

by actually working with peril properly

[zinc phoenix]

Taking bubble (which gives you nothing for peril management) is straight gimping yourself

[analog agate]

I just think they had those ideas and mechanics. Didn’t want to do the vt2 route and pivoted into the tree which allowed them to keep their core ideas of 3 classes. That is all

[potent echo]

but the tree lets you take all of them

[radiant ice]

Ahhh

[potent echo]

i dont think thats a tree problem

[radiant ice]

Right I get your meaning

True

[patent mango]

they also just gotta throw out all the useless talents (or massively buff them, some are unfixable though)

[zinc phoenix]

They’re there as filler

Like does anyone really think psyker needs a +2 warp charges allowed trait?

[radiant ice]

tbh I think Psyker has a decent selection

[potent echo]

also i don't know about how staff forces you to take vent, its just that creeping is so much better than anything else psyker has

[radiant ice]

I think Assail locking you out of Psykinetic sucks

[analog agate]

Which would be interesting to Arco’s point if/when they introduce a new archetype. How/where

[radiant ice]

But other than that, we definitely aren't the worst in the game XD

[potent echo]

i feel like this is balanced

but sure i can see a game where you can get both like why not

peevet exists

[zinc phoenix]

I think psykinetic is straight up broken and should be locked behind bubble tbh

[patent mango]

if i could take psykinetic with assail i'd never take the otehrs cause assail is actually fun

[plucky flax]

We can have other psyker disciplines too.

[potent echo]

need pyro psyker now

[radiant ice]

I mean Brain Burst is my fav blitz for Psyker

[patent mango]

sanctic psyker melee tree

[spice flame]

Psyker lacks explosions.

[potent echo]

wildfire and pc are not enough

[spice flame]

Beside their own body

[radiant ice]

But still, Psykinetic feels more... meant for the right side?

[plucky flax]

Rework psyker again and split it into multiple psyker classes.

[fiery stratus]

brainburst could use a little boost

everything gets sniped before it can go off

[zinc phoenix]

Anyway this is my long winded way of saying I wish fatshark would steal the Diablo 4 skill tree model and give me true freedom in building my wack ass psyker

[potent echo]

gunker can go

[radiant ice]

I think Soul Drinker and Psykinetic would make more sense with their positions swapped

[potent echo]

make it physiker with more melee stuff

[patent mango]

this is my long winded way of saying i just wanna stab stuff better

[zinc phoenix]

I genuinely don’t get why gunker is a supported concept when meleeker is so much better 😂

[patent mango]

trueee

[analog agate]

I would live this

[zinc phoenix]

Like could you not just play the three other gun classes?

[plucky flax]

Psyker but he uses the warp to enhance his physical prowess

[radiant ice]

Gunker with recon lasgun and sciers gaze tho

[radiant ice]

Anakin?

[zinc phoenix]

It’d be based but also would make SG builds absolutely comical

[potent echo]

yea but other than flavour I can play vet with deadshot and its similar

[radiant ice]

I see no issue with this

[spice veldt]

a mild amount of support is fine, and there's an opportunity to distinguish psyker's non-warp stuff by mixing in your blitzes more

[patent mango]

just move souldrinker to left and gimme a melee talent in its place lol

[zinc phoenix]

You’d be spamming SG with chastise levels of frequency 😂

[radiant ice]

Souldrinker is such an odd one

Every build it may sorta work on, it can't reach

[potent echo]

give SG something too

maybe a blink on activation

or fire walk from VT2

[radiant ice]

Melee soulblaze kinda? But then it'd still benefit more being left side

[zinc phoenix]

If fire illsi wasn’t a total non functioning meme it’d be gigabased

[spice veldt]

i suppose they were thinking of perilous combustion or blazing spirit on force swords with souldrinker
too bad the numbers aren't there

[potent echo]

give it 20% crit but melee only

blazing spirit dreams

[zinc phoenix]

I actually do PC meleeker but souldrinker is just not as good as crack for my build

[analog agate]

They are trying to make blaze a thing on swords.

Sad day

[zinc phoenix]

Also kinetic deflection and warp rider should switch places 😤

[potent echo]

will force GS get blazing spirit

place your bets now

[upper sun]

NOOOOOOOOOO

[potent echo]

we have purgatus at home

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t get why all the wacky “more peril more gooder” stuff isn’t in right tree while left tree gets all the fire shit and middle tree is a toughness thing

[fiery stratus]

purg at home is post taco bell acid farts

we need an acid staff

[potent echo]

support psyker 0w0

[zinc phoenix]

And can a brother get a copy of the vet trait that lets me give 15% toughness I get to other people? Because that would make a toughness battery support psyker kinda viable

[hazy moss]

bro…

no

what a diabolical take

[zinc phoenix]

Like imagine kinD + quietude + bubble + toughness share with a heavy dose of the top of tree toughness traits, you’d put out pretty wild amounts of toughness for the team

Not a meta build sure but it’d be fun

[zinc phoenix]

Left side has too much access to the good damage stuff tbh

It gets all the fire and easy access to all the damage

[potent echo]

it used to have puppet master tax

but its gone

[hazy moss]

right side has scrier gaze and disrupt destiny, the dmg provided by those two is pretty high

[fiery stratus]

seems like most solutions are slap a bandage on and move some nodes around

[spice veldt]

right side also has damage bonuses

[zinc phoenix]

Yes, but unfortunately no

[spice veldt]

perfect timing and malefic momentum

[potent echo]

malefic my beloved

[zinc phoenix]

Because soulfire + ree is so insane for damage

Like come on guys you know what I mean 😂

[spice veldt]

you will need to be more precise

[hazy moss]

only thing u lose on left is wildfire

[spice veldt]

you can not say that we know what you mean and then be intentionally vague

[hazy moss]

soulfire is not exclusive to left side 💀

[zinc phoenix]

I mean that right side damage output is lower than left side because left side fire builds are massively better while having access to psyk aura and warp rider to boost things + a trait to make peril edging easy

Right side compensates by offering better gameplay but the damage differential is noticeable

[hazy moss]

you’re saying right side damage is lower than left???

[tired estuary]

lmao

[hazy moss]

brother what r u smoking

[zinc phoenix]

Yes and I don’t think that’s controversial tbh

[hazy moss]

10/10 bait

[zinc phoenix]

Compare lmb surge fire build damage output to anything on right side

Or purgatus memes

[tired estuary]

lmb surge is fucking broken and shouldn't be used as a point of comparison to anything

[hazy moss]

bro scrier dd in good hands is only beat by the lmb macro

idk what ur on bro

and stop using lmb macro as an argument point

it’s clearly an exploit

[zinc phoenix]

Uh, my own experience of using both including massive amounts of void gaze and gunker and seeing the clear difference in performance?

Like trauma or burgatus with left side is just jaw dropping performance by comparison with right

[hazy moss]

oh right, your experience!! of course!! that which is the truth of the world

wait till u see someone good use right side

[zinc phoenix]

I am good at it, that’s why I can get away with meleeker in auric maels

[hazy moss]

people solo auric maels with just a dclaw

[zinc phoenix]

Even though it is pretty obviously not a good build 😂

[zinc phoenix]

Ok, I await your video of you doing it

[hazy moss]

any build can clear auric maels, idk what this has to do with which psyker tree does more dmg

[zinc phoenix]

That will cause me to just accept your word on this matter

[zinc phoenix]

You said “if you were good with it” and I said “here is me being good with it, I still think left side damage output is better”

[hazy moss]

neither word should be accepted, statistically speaking and in practice, right side provides more damage than left side

left*

[celest valve]

hehe peril edging

[zinc phoenix]

You’ve yet to put anything on the board other than assertions that fly in the face of what people actually play and the scoreboards they post

[hazy moss]

same to u bro 💀

ur only point is lmb macro spam

[celest valve]

left side is warp damage right side is non warp damage and assail

simple as

[digital narwhal]

is oddball being an oddball again?

[summer prairie]

no, ip is trollbaiting again

[zinc phoenix]

I already mentioned blaze trauma, surge smite and purgatus. You kept repeating “no skill issue” 🤷‍♀️ you aren’t worth talking to

[celest valve]

crit chance is what right side has(10% of it) and that only works on assail

[hazy moss]

and we all know which one does more damage

[hazy moss]

ignoring scrier and dd are we?

[digital narwhal]

Do keep in mind that infinite cleave density scaling AOEs are insane

[celest valve]

precision damage works in general but you can't precision damage warp fire

[zinc phoenix]

You can technically do a combo with it and voidstrike but the performance is just nowhere near a pure left with center dip blaze trauma or purgatus

Esp now that kinetic flayer isn’t total dogshit 😂

[hazy moss]

i love your takes oddball

true psyker schizo takes

[celest valve]

so like what oddball is saying is that yes left is more damage for warp fire because it is the only thing that boosts it :p

[hazy moss]

bc of wildfire? 💀

[celest valve]

(and applies it, for that matter)

[zinc phoenix]

That and warp fire is just such a massive damage source for free

[hazy moss]

4 stacks 😭

[zinc phoenix]

Like as the difficulty and encounter size scale up to the really big quantities soulfire keeps scaling with it

VS gazer/gunker are more fun but they can’t scale like that

Even with PC

[hazy moss]

wildfire stacks up to 4 💀 both sides of the tree have access to perilous combustion

[tired estuary]

yeah we'd better buff psyker melee dmg so it does as much numbers on the scoreboards as macro build

[hazy moss]

bro every gunker runs pc

[celest valve]

mind you, I still prefer the right side, except for turning off brain with infernus staff and buuuuuuuurn

[hazy moss]

stop spreading misinformation

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah like I said the big advantage of right side is better gameplay 😂

But if I want to just win with ease I’m gonna do a purgatus shriek build

[tired estuary]

maybe 100% bonus cleave on high peril isn't enough, better make it infinite cleave + ignores hitmass

[prime elk]

eh i don't

[hazy moss]

i still don’t understand how soulblaze is only available to the left side according to some of you

[tired estuary]

give psyker a bonus brutal momentum on the skill tree

[hazy moss]

congrats. you’re different. here’s your medal 🎖️

[prime elk]

thanks

[zinc phoenix]

That’s kinda why you aren’t worth talking to 🤷‍♀️

[celest valve]

venting shriek, two associated talents

[prime elk]

https://tenor.com/view/medals-boss-serious-heres-my-cape-ready-gif-13584973

[hazy moss]

11/10 rage bait sir. i’ve truly been outbaited

[prime elk]

me running without PC on any scrier's build

[zinc phoenix]

You should, the damage output is worth it… but I agree that some talents are just straight up more fun 😂

[hazy moss]

ah yes, let me use up all my warp battery stacks to apply an incredible 6 stacks of soulblaze. SIX!

[prime elk]

nah i played around with it

warpfire accounted for something like 6% of my total damage

i don't think it's worth

[celest valve]

yes, which is enough to kill every horde mob hit :p

[zinc phoenix]

See this is the issue. You literally don’t understand how soulfire stacking works and how it interacts with staffs. So you just kinda insult people and make comments that are completely wrong 🤷‍♀️

[hazy moss]

warp fire only improves your damage on hordes, the lowest threat in the game 💀 but if you like having the most damage with the least impact go off i guess

[celest valve]

also yeah larger enemies you'd want to stack it

[hazy moss]

says you 💀

[celest valve]

you know staves can apply it too right, and that it has exponential cubic scaling?

[zinc phoenix]

If you don’t get how soulfire stacking increases damage to comical levels or the correct order to use things to stack it to the truly absurd damage numbers of course you aren’t gonna get why left side is nuts

[hazy moss]

only one does at base

[hazy moss]

in the time it takes to stack to these comical levels of yours, a right side psyker already cleared the encounter

[nocturne dust]

and at base you have no talents too

[hazy moss]

but i respect the fact you like running fun builds

[spice flame]

creeping flames does nutso damage

[celest valve]

see this is why I disagree that the left side does 'more damage' because they're equivalent in actually passing content like most builds

[hazy moss]

right dmg > left dmg

[celest valve]

but they are correct in that warpfire, yes, does do more damage ultimately.

[spice flame]

it negates hordes that could be problematics on some hairy situations

[hazy moss]

argue all u want that’s the way it is

[spice flame]

but hey

[cloud night]

The civil war movie i aalways wanted to see!
Burnker vs gunker!!!

[hazy moss]

same can be said abt smite and ts sucks

[celest valve]

(they mostly only don't do large monstrosity damage because of the 0.1x multiplier on unyielding >.>)

[spice flame]

sure ok

[hazy moss]

bro fire is only good on flak and hordes

[celest valve]

> smite sucks

hoooo talk about spicy takes

[hazy moss]

fire staff vs 4 crushers will see u pancaked

like i said tho

i respect if ur tryna have fun

[spice flame]

did we say something about crushers

ofc fire is trash against them

[zinc phoenix]

Burgatus fire isn’t tho

[hazy moss]

so why use something that sucks vs 90% of enemies?

[spice flame]

uh

[zinc phoenix]

Take Burgatus into the scab only no ammo mael

It’s stupid how fast you clear everything

[spice flame]

This

[nocturne dust]

lmao, 90% crusher games don't happen even in melee only maelstroms 💀

[zinc phoenix]

Maulers, crushers, it doesn’t matter

[hazy moss]

“take staff into a melee only mission” we got a genius here

[celest valve]

ugh where is warpfire code again

[spice flame]

Idk where you got that "90% of enemies are crushers"

[celest valve]

oh right, it's a 'buff'

[hazy moss]

stop playing on low difficulties

[spice flame]

jesus ok

I'll be back later

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah like i said he’s just not worth talking to

[celest valve]

it's personal biased experience because they don't play with people that can trivialize crushers and they don't trivialize crushers themselves

[nocturne dust]

Didn't know there were higher difficulties than damnation, you troll

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-popcorn-nom-nom-this-is-gonna-be-good-gif-16262875

[celest valve]

(generally psyker doesn't do well against crushers in general I guess but)

(cept knife psyker)

[nocturne dust]

bro is fishing so hard

[celest valve]

(meybe dueling sword?)

smoothstep_multiplier = stack_multiplier * stack_multiplier * (3 - 2 * stack_multiplier) anyway this is why warpfire does so much damage

stack_multiplier is the percentage fraction between 0 and 1 of how many stacks are applied vs the max stacks

[hazy moss]

this is how the average flameker responds when u try and help them improve their dmg

[celest valve]

(max stacks is 31)

[nocturne dust]

yeah yeah, keep fishing

[celest valve]

so at max stacks of 31, that multiplier is... 1.

[hazy moss]

exactly

multiplier of 1 😂😂

imagine using a staff with a multiplier of 1

avg flameker

[celest valve]

It's further mutiplied by 500 to get the power_level. So multiplier of 500. idiot.

[patent mango]

17h until force gs

[summer prairie]

isn't the power level 250 for purg

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[hazy moss]

doesn’t the average crusher have 500,000 hp? so i have to hit him 1,000 times 😂💀 avg flameker gets owned

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[celest valve]

I am, frankly, unsure exactly how power level translates to damage. But this is applied every damage tick.

[hazy moss]

i’ll just use my blaze force greatsword thank u very much

[nocturne dust]

Hey, did you know Force GS is two-handed?

[patent mango]

source?

[hazy moss]

no it’s not, stop spreading misinformation

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/humanharvest407-keke-shark-gif-23988484

[patent mango]

holy hell

thsi is real

[celest valve]

Anyway. At 1 stack: That's roughly 3% of the total DPS potential of warpfire.

At 6 stacks: 9.7%(or a little over 3 times a single stack)

[upper sun]

wheres my dev blog 😭

[celest valve]

hmm. actually i mathed slightly wrong

1 stack is 0.3% the total DPS potential of warpfire. not 3%. oops

so yeah 6 stacks is already 32 times the damge of 1 stack

[spice flame]

Yo I'm back

[hazy moss]

anywho as i was saying

[spice flame]

bye

[celest valve]

4 stacks is 4.2%, a bit under half of 6 stacks

10 stacks, or the 4 stacks from application of an enemy dying with at least 4 stacks nearby + 6 stacks from venting shriek, is 23.2%.

[marble crater]

Judging by the time of some of the announcements there is still hope for today

[upper sun]

hope is a uhhh

idk

[celest valve]

oh yeah also the source item for warpfire matters. because uh. items can have different burning damage.

i have absolutely no clue which item is used if there's multiple sources

[spice flame]

Hey guys

[cloud night]

Yo

[quartz barn]

Hi

[autumn lark]

its tomorrow

skele confirmed it

[celest valve]

i uh tbh am unsure what other stack counts to show people for warpfire because I don't know any other specific warpfire stack counts that are relevant

also oh shit grim protocols is tomorrow not wednesday

that's three whole days to play it, not two 😮

(btw this scaling is the same for both bleed AND burning as well)

[supple zinc]

I was just robbed of the cliffhanger penance

[supple zinc]

Finally managed to get a big group knocked off but all of them hit a ledge below

I hate this penance so much

[celest valve]

ah nevermind, it's not damage. just rate of applying.

[radiant frigate]

imagine burger staff with only 8 soulblaze stacks

wild

[celest valve]

16 stacks is 52.4% of the total potential at 31 stacks.

[cloud night]

I just got some hot choco with more popcorn and the arguments over? Maaaan

[celest valve]

i am uncertain 31 stacks is actually achievable, and 16 stacks is likely the effective cap because warpfire scaling starts to fall off then :p

[summer prairie]

Just had a boss with 31 stacks a few games ago

[radiant frigate]

very epic

[summer prairie]

the damage isn't that good even with 31 stacks

[radiant frigate]

multiple siblings shriek together to burst a bosses' eardrums

this liquefies the brain

[celest valve]

well it's double that of 12 :p

oh right damage also has. 'secondary action burning intensity'

[summer prairie]

one of them is how often a SB stack can be applied to the same target and the other is the same for direct damage, if I recall correctly

[celest valve]

hmmm. also i'm not sure because of the 80% thing what the maximum stacks would be. 15?

[hazy moss]

dont let the flamekers hear this

[spice flame]

[celest valve]

did i mention unyielding damage AKA boss damage is ludicrously low :p

[radiant frigate]

forceful bigblade tomorrow!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[ornate hamlet]

Why don’t they allow you to prestige in this game

[celest valve]

            [armor_types.armored] = 1.75,
            [armor_types.resistant] = 2,
            [armor_types.player] = 1,
            [armor_types.berserker] = 2.5,
            [armor_types.super_armor] = 0.25,
            [armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = 1.5,
            [armor_types.void_shield] = 1,```

[ornate hamlet]

Actually grinds my gears

[hazy moss]

honestly man, kinetic deflection + soulblaze is the only way to solo a dh as a psyker so i’m not gonna hate on the unyielding dmg

[celest valve]

ok it's not actually as low as i thought it would be but

(this also implies a melee weapon that can apply brittleness may be useful

[ornate hamlet]

There’s demon hunters?

[celest valve]

daemon hunters, we're not some pathetic fantasy franchise

[hazy moss]

yea they try and kidnap your psyker :( if they catch u they delete your character

[autumn lark]

Hopefully the forcesword slash projectile is counted as a ranged attack

[radiant frigate]

yes it's us

[summer prairie]

yes, pretty easy to solo a DH with purg lmb

[radiant frigate]

huge with true aim if true

[hazy moss]

true aim doesn’t apply to melee weapons

[ornate hamlet]

Ur face doesn’t apply to melee weapons

[celest valve]

did you like.... read what it was a reply to or do you not read

[radiant frigate]

ok but that's beside the point if the force cleave is counted as ranged

[autumn lark]

Hes been ragebaiting hard

[hazy moss]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-anime-profile-picture-gif-19903708

[celest valve]

hmmm also

[radiant frigate]

ok

[hazy moss]

i don’t know how to read

[radiant frigate]

I'm so sorry for your losd

[autumn lark]

Dude doesnt like being called out for bad takes so he dislikes me

[celest valve]

            [armor_types.armored] = 0.75,
            [armor_types.resistant] = 1,
            [armor_types.player] = 1,
            [armor_types.berserker] = 1,
            [armor_types.super_armor] = 0,
            [armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = 0.7,
            [armor_types.void_shield] = 1,``` warpfire has a far templa- oh, right

wrong template, that's for the flamer direct damage.

[autumn lark]

Rending flames for the funny

[hazy moss]

nah i don’t disagree with any of your takes. u just have an anime pfp 🫵😂🫵😂🫵😂🫵😂

[summer prairie]

because it has 500 base power vs 250 purg

[patent mango]

peak.......

if true aim works with it it'd be so jolly..........

[hazy moss]

i can’t read so idk what u just said

[autumn lark]

True aim and malefic momentum

[patent mango]

malefic already worsk with illisi

[celest valve]

actually 250 * 500?

[autumn lark]

This works even better

[celest valve]

    [armor_types.unarmored] = 1.5,
    [armor_types.armored] = 1.5,
    [armor_types.resistant] = 1.5,
    [armor_types.player] = 0.125,
    [armor_types.berserker] = 1,
    [armor_types.super_armor] = 0.1,
    [armor_types.disgustingly_resilient] = 1.25,
    [armor_types.void_shield] = 1,
}```

anyway i found the warpfire armor modifiers.

[patent mango]

thank god player has such high res to it

[celest valve]

rending and brittle would be disgustingly good yes.

[patent mango]

or is 0.125 super low res

[radiant frigate]

epic unless crusher

[radiant frigate]

rending will fix it

[patent mango]

true

[celest valve]

These are the multipliers to it. i... admittedly don't remember 100% which translates to what and which is unyielding.

disgustingly resilent is i think infested like infested hordes

[summer prairie]

resistant is unyielding

[celest valve]

herp

[ornate hamlet]

Ok but why are there no prestiging in this game like deep rock? Your portrait changes and you get cool stars around your name. You don’t lose anything idk why babyshark doesn’t add it in…

[patent mango]

fatshark makes even the code confusing

[celest valve]

so actually good boss damage, if super armor is carapace

[hazy moss]

soulblaze doesn’t actually work on bosses btw, every see a beast of burgle on fire?

exactly

[summer prairie]

it's reliable boss damage, not good. A bit better now with blaze away

[celest valve]

i don't blame them, they likely changed the names in production to be less confusing but you can't change code

[upper sun]

anyone ever get to the end event then suddenly lose all willingness to play

[ornate hamlet]

Ur reliable boss damage

[summer prairie]

yes

[patent mango]

joever...

[summer prairie]

thank you

[ornate hamlet]

That’s like me in treacherous tower in VT2

[autumn lark]

Clad noob

[hazy moss]

this is why i don’t play VT2

[ornate hamlet]

I like the game a lot but man does that mission suck

[celest valve]

hmmm. can you stagger bosses?

[fair void]

Does Cruel Fortune triggers only on weakspot kills on Enemies marked by Disruptive Destiny?

[gloomy hornet]

tower of treachery final sequence is actually a stink fest

[celest valve]

oh right and wouldn't strength apply to warpfire too

[ornate hamlet]

3 attempts. Barrel wouldn’t go in the stupid vortex thing. It’s super jank and bs

[celest valve]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17h0n9h/how_dot_damage_works/ year old reddit post

[hazy moss]

imagine using reddit

[ornate hamlet]

Starts the post off with an insult. Ignored.

[hazy moss]

i agree ☝️

[celest valve]

ok reject

[summer prairie]

a lot of incorrect information in that post

[celest valve]

are you angry because death rejected you

the emperor, in their infinite wisdom, saw you about to die and was like "no, i reject you. back to life you go"

[upper sun]

yes

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-moderators-gif-25571015

[celest valve]

hmm okay it seems like melee damage will increase dots

which means you could theoretically combine shock maul +25% damage vs electrocuted enemies along with uhhhh.... lightning reflexes for 30% melee strength? ok probably better combos.

...like uh.

[ripe obsidian]

Is the Excise Vault map borked? I haven't seen it in rotation for like 4 days.

[celest valve]

+50% strength, +120% rending.

[summer prairie]

the previous hotfix removed Excise vault and assassination mission from rotation due to an unknown bug

I'm guessing it's actually a PS5 bug

[celest valve]

can uncanny strike be nerfed yet

[tired estuary]

sony ruining everything again, typical

[hazy moss]

uncanny strike is overrated

it’s actually really underwhelming there’s just a lot of hype around it

makes it seem better than it is

just like flame staff

[celest valve]

oh right i can safely ignore you and assume the opposite of whatever you said

[analog agate]

New weapons via streams (possible videos) in 1 hour 7 min (19:00 cet)

[hazy moss]

1984

[upper sun]

i disagree

[cloud night]

Shock maul?
Why would I wanna shock darth maul?
Shock deez nuts

[hazy moss]

i agree

[celest valve]

no, this is warhammer 40k

executes with bolt pistol

[upper sun]

uncanny bad is a tanner take

[hazy moss]

uncanny good

[analog agate]

Did he actually say it is bad

[hazy moss]

i hate that tanner guy

[celest valve]

i kind of agree that it's generally bad but I also do think it should be nerfed to reasonable levels due to it's interaction with non-melee damage

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-feed-the-troll-troll-wander-over-yonder-wander-dont-feed-gif-22194047

[upper sun]

yes along side "only noobs take until death"

[spice flame]

Un canny

Typo in the chat

You fucked up

[upbeat kestrel]

People now that i can use normal melee on psyker ita actually enjoyable

[hazy moss]

Unc anny

[celest valve]

technically true in that it's only useful if you die?

[autumn lark]

I wonder if tanner says this because he uses double chastice or is dumb

[upper sun]

tbh i dont even use it

[hazy moss]

doesn’t it prevent u from dying tho?

[autumn lark]

Most likely the latter

[upper sun]

I DONT USE IT jeez

[spice veldt]

this was back before duelling sword was made available to the other classes

[analog agate]

Ew

[autumn lark]

Ah

Then hes a fucking dumbass as per usual

[celest valve]

tanner's main issue seems to be the language they use. 'noobs' for example meaning 'anyone who can't basically no-hit a run'

[cloud night]

Its not a community with out finger pointing
"These youtubers are trash!!!!!"
"These discord nerds dont know shit!!!!"
"The reddit is full of sub 80 IQ dregs!!!!!"

[spice flame]

Tanner bad

[upper sun]

hes right about reddit tho 🚬

[upper galleon]

2 truths 1 lie /joke

[hazy moss]

tanner annoying as fuck highkey

[nocturne dust]

Everyone except me sucks

[celest valve]

their video on gunner resistance being bad, for example, had them showcase taking zero toughness damage against like 20 gunners while moving into far away cover

[upper galleon]

tanner is wildin there is a reason he isn't here anymore

[analog agate]

The only good reddit posts are usually from members here

[celest valve]

because, yes, you can sprint slide against gunners to take literally zero damage

[hazy moss]

wrong

[spice flame]

Jokes aside he certainly lacks some social skills

[celest valve]

no matter how many gunners exist

[autumn lark]

Alao stamina stacking and the sprint talent

[upper sun]

unban everyone that got banned new people deserve an occasional shit show too

[spice veldt]

communities can get out of hand with this yeah
but tanner is somebody who legitimately deserves what he gets

[spice flame]

Don't we have enough of those

[hazy moss]

idk how he has fans tbh

[cloud night]

I dont even know who tanner is tbh

[upper sun]

never

[celest valve]

https://tenor.com/b0brK.gif

[upper sun]

much like the dark eldar i need drama to live

[celest valve]

in that tanner is right :v

(usually)

[autumn lark]

Very very bad takes and his community posts on yt tell alot

[hazy moss]

lots of other ways to get your info than an annoyingly nasal condescending femboy

[nocturne dust]

[autumn lark]

You need game wipes to live you noob

[hazy moss]

like me

you can just ask me

i know everything abt darktide

[cloud night]

So just avoid him period
Gotcha

[upper sun]

excuse me i dont need to wipe to live.............

[celest valve]

the takes are as bad as 'left-side tree has more damage, actually'. Which is technically correct, but they're either rude as fuck in how they say it or it's only correct in a certain way.

[spice flame]

Is warpfire good

[hazy moss]

YES!

[cloud night]

Kek

[spice flame]

Pog

[celest valve]

[autumn lark]

Btw tanner's usual world first videos are him speedrunning tf out of games without interacting with them

[patent mango]

does anyone know dump stat on force gs

[hazy moss]

damage

[patent mango]

i c

[nocturne dust]

No, some of their takes are awful and fundamentally misinformed.

[upper sun]

charge rate

[celest valve]

if you have issue with that i have bad news about darktide and similar games.

[patent mango]

true true

[autumn lark]

Oh i know

But he acts very very condescendinv about getting it

[celest valve]

i did qualify with 'usually' at first tbf. And they did admit that they were wrong on veteran right side keystone.

[celest valve]

yeah lol see 'rude af'

[autumn lark]

Funnily enough tanner and mr e replaced personality

[nocturne dust]

Not hard to be 'usually' correct though, if tanner qualifies.

[celest valve]

i'm also like a programmer by trade so like... I kind of have to tolerate complete and utter douchebags as a regular thing. :c

[upper sun]

Mr E should read stories on youtube and use his voice for something other than being mid at darktide

[cloud night]

So tanner is a pompous windbag
Mister E is clueless half or most of the time

Any other names?

[celest valve]

and their variety of douchebaggery is very common for programming

[spice flame]

Agentchaos

Noob yt dt

[haughty star]

[nocturne dust]

As a fellow programmer, programming irrelevant.

[cloud night]

Personally i wouldnt take that @plucky flax

[marble crater]

He doesn't get a choice

[upper sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx9f-dFNHi8

high quality content for once

[spice flame]

Aye aye aye

[celest valve]

https://www.youtube.com/@j_sat j_sat is quite honestly my favorite for these types of games and I've generally seen them as the most humble but talented person I have ever seen but they also sadly don't have much recent content :c

they're basically what tanner could be if they took a giant serving of humble pie to the face

[autumn lark]

jsat is in the havoc trailer btw

[hazy moss]

agentchaos is a good guy

[celest valve]

huh

it could be they work for fatshark now iunno

[hazy moss]

if there are no agentchaos fans left i must be dead

[celest valve]

that would explain the lack of streaming

[autumn lark]

playtester

[celest valve]

but yeah they havve a metric shitton of solo vermintide 2 runs and it's far harder to do so there I think lol

[cloud night]

Fair enough

[plucky flax]

Me being noob and lost 3 games in a row.

[spice flame]

Ok truth be told, before going into that discord, I saw some Agent videos, posted some comments and he helped me with builds and stuff

[plucky flax]

[spice flame]

So ye good guy

Don't tell him tho

[celest valve]

yeah there's also a reason why I like don't link many tanner videos and if I do I only link the videos where it just straight up shows what I'm trying to say with objective video proof :p

[autumn lark]

reverse flawless penance

[celest valve]

like the gunner thing

[autumn lark]

lose 15 games in a row

[nocturne dust]

@plucky flax Why r u bad guy

[plucky flax]

Bad guy wot?

What did I do?

[hazy moss]

it wasn’t your fault, it was your trolling teammates. chin up reject

[spice flame]

Nooooooooooo

[nocturne dust]

Uh, Zeukat said not to tell you you are good guy. So, ergo, you are bad guy.

[spice flame]

Nooooooo

[celest valve]

also i'll be honest j_sat is the only videos I've actually watched for any length of time because. reasons. iunno

[plucky flax]

[celest valve]

they speak to the autistic timmy jumping up and down in my head with a voice that doesn't drive me into a suicidal rampage

[brisk bear]

gg

[autumn lark]

ok this is funny

[celest valve]

which is why i have never heard of agentchaos because I don't know if their voice will activate my autistic killswitch

[autumn lark]

jsat's point of view isnt used in the havoc gameplay trailer

only the 3 others

[celest valve]

yeah they also tend to be incredibly heavily modded similar to tanner :p

[cloud night]

Yea from the few vids I saw
I could tell he was full.of shit

[autumn lark]

i do use my fair share of mods for pooptide

[celest valve]

that's partly why I also brain latched onto tanner because they do actually talk about game mechanics and explain stuff in a similar way

[upper galleon]

reddit openly spreading mis info

[autumn lark]

this is the dumbest thing ive ever seen

[plucky flax]

Sorry mate I suck today.

[celest valve]

they just, uh, talk in a way reminiscent of sandpaper

[plucky flax]

Very noob.

[upper galleon]

it's peak

[autumn lark]

damage affects direct fire from the flamer

[celest valve]

sigh ok what is this about

is this flamer ok

[autumn lark]

burn affects the stacks itself

[upper galleon]

he KNOWS damage affects the burn damage

[spice flame]

AH

[autumn lark]

burn is completely seperate from damage

[left basin]

what's the special on fgs

[upper galleon]

i know LMAO

[left basin]

how's fgs in general

[upper galleon]

not out yet

[patent mango]

fgs is pretty good so far

[upper galleon]

it's a moonlight greatsword

[patent mango]

its boss dmg is lacking

[upper galleon]

special is a ranged slash wave

[summer prairie]

I got baited

[cloud night]

Everybody always says
Shieldker this
And smyker that

Nobody ever addresses the drug epidemic plaguing our assailkers gunkers

When they run outta ammo, they assualt people with the crack rocks they smoke daily

[autumn lark]

erm actualy you NOOB its the greatsword of judgement

[patent mango]

otherwise everything gets cut in half

[marble crater]

Already deranking in Havoc before tomorrow

[left basin]

is there a single variant? no kruber power stab?

[autumn lark]

or the moonlight crescent

[brisk bear]

It's fine I suck everyday

[upper galleon]

true

[autumn lark]

can we ban bandit for misinformation

[nocturne dust]

someone should really datamine what that extra number on the Inferno's damage stat does

[left basin]

god i just want a thammer for psyker so much

[upper galleon]

2 variants, sprinting stab is on zealot

[patent mango]

daemonhammer for psyker

[celest valve]

uh excuse me I just knife people in the kidneys

[upper galleon]

it has been

it does nothing

[summer prairie]

I explained what it does

[nocturne dust]

[summer prairie]

if you mean 0.34

[cloud night]

This is atoma, not london

[nocturne dust]

[left basin]

i am big sad, but i guess it's maleficpsyker time anyway

[upper galleon]

burn intensity (on damage stat) is supposed to scale your burn stacks in a different way from burn, but it's never been connected

[celest valve]

hey good news i found a flamer in the store so i can actually talk about it

[nocturne dust]

Could you do it again pretty please? 🥺

[patent mango]

is it worth dumping defense on force gs?

[plucky flax]

Man told me 'clutch or gay' and I failed to clutch. Guess I am gay now.

[spice veldt]

no dump ammo on fgs

[patent mango]

ok

[summer prairie]

it means how frequently the same target can take direct damage

[patent mango]

but if i dump ammo wont i be eating too much