psyker-class

[sweet pebble]

I use it with the assault talent on elite enemies, the lightning that falls on the head...... I've been playing for 3 days I still don't really know what I'm doing

[cloud night]

Heres the other

[narrow lichen]

Mobility is the dumpstat

[spice flame]

yeah

[cloud night]

Alr
Gambling it is

[spice flame]

I predict hmmm 7 knives

[narrow lichen]

i'd recommend using a staff and venting shriek

so when you cast your brain burst charge twice as fast

[cloud night]

I may keep rolling but i got this

And this

Oh nvm

Got all 80s and mob at 60 on my last one

Ill just burn the rest for greatsword mastery pts

[sweet pebble]

Ok thanks, do the types of staff change based on preference or is there a "better" one?
if it's not there I was interested in trying the staff void

[cloud night]

What are the typical perks n blessings for a knife?

Crit chance n flak for perks?

[radiant ice]

Hrmm, I am stuck between Quietude and Soulstealer on an electrostaff build

Any opinions on which would give more value?

[marble crater]

All the staves are very good and play very differently and also fill different roles, so just depends on what you enjoy playing at the time

[radiant ice]

Also debating between these two setups to have both

Or this to be really bizarre

[spice flame]

hold on a sec

[marble crater]

For what build is that?

[radiant ice]

Electrostaff Scriers

[spice flame]

Scriers

Eh

[radiant ice]

Nah it's insane

Well to me, I am really enjoying it XD

[spice flame]

Venting is better cause you can clears hordes with creeping flames, si it outwheight the issue that EH has

[radiant ice]

But having a debate on what gets the most toughness regen up at the top

[spice flame]

well, imo

[radiant ice]

Yeah that's my other loadout for it

[spice flame]

But, I usually take both soulseater and quietude

[radiant ice]

I'm having fun and making a ton of loadouts while waiting for our glorious greatsword

[marble crater]

I like this

[spice flame]

If i have to choose, quietude

[radiant ice]

Unfortunately one point short

[marble crater]

Then without soulstealer maybe

[radiant ice]

Yeah think I'm gonna give that a go

Especially as I'm running ER

Finding that Soulstealer is just pretty slow

[narrow lichen]

eletrokinetic is nice

[radiant ice]

All 4 staves are god tier tbh

[narrow lichen]

eh

voidstrike is meh

[radiant ice]

Oh boy

Don't say that, you'll summon a storm

Voidstrike is definitely godtier, but has the biggest skill expression of the 4

I think it's probably the biggest favourite of the die hards

[marble crater]

Voidstrike gets bonus points for satisfaction

[sweet pebble]

I will try all 4

[marble crater]

As you should

[radiant ice]

Definitely make a loadout for each

[patent mango]

make 2 loadouts in advance for force gs marks

its funny

[sweet pebble]

any advice on how to make 7 enemies fall in 2 seconds.... .

[radiant ice]

That loadout mod is comming in clutch

[marble crater]

I have 5 loadouts, 1 for each staff. Purgatus, Surge, Trauma, Voidstrike and vraks

[radiant ice]

Creeping vent in auric

Mobs are so dense any bridge works

[sweet pebble]

Im going to try all the weapons and class

[radiant ice]

I remember when it was like 20 mobs in 2 seconds

And the blow yourself up was 4 elite kills

The dark days

[marble crater]

https://youtu.be/SiZp4X8YQww that's how I did it, thanks to the video.
Bonus because it didn't rely on teammates not messing it up

[fringe garden]

Man, finally beating High int damnations with some consistency is a great feeling.

[sweet pebble]

Thank you

[marble crater]

[wet gust]

I copied a build on darktide.gameslantern and I literally have no idea on how to play it 😅

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/azyr-psyker-smite-venting-shriek-empowered-psionics-auric-ready

[radiant ice]

That's a smite build

[wet gust]

When I am supposed to use the staff and when I have to use the G?

[radiant ice]

Hit G, hold right click, left click when fully charged

Every time Peril gets to about 80% to 85%, use F without stopping the Smite

You can use abilities while Smiting

[wet gust]

So the staff is a decoration?

[radiant ice]

I believe the staff is only for the left click, to snipe snipers/gunners at a distance

Also seems setup so you can actually hurt bosses

As none of the rest of the kit can

Personally I'd take a revolver, as it's better at both, over the staff on this build

But then you're dipping into ammo your vet could use

[marble crater]

Do you really "play" a smite build?

[summer prairie]

if you scroll down it explains the playstyle

[tired estuary]

if the vet can't manage their own ammo then they don't deserve it in the first place

[radiant ice]

"Team based game"

Be nice 😛

Even if they're blunt

[wet gust]

it is bad?

[radiant ice]

Nah it's OP

[marble crater]

Not at all, that smite build is very powerful

[radiant ice]

But OP and low APM many find boring

[tired estuary]

it has meme tier bad rep b/c it attracts players who use it poorly

and when it's used poorly it's really noticeable

unfortunately when it's used well it's also really noticeable

[wet gust]

I see

[marble crater]

Smite is the most polarizing talent and discussion for us psykers

[wet gust]

Thanks a lot for the help guys ❤️

I remember when people use to explode heads with Psyker

[compact cargo]

Spark heads

I've been enlightened by scriers voidstrike

[radiant ice]

A few of my builds still use brain burst for boss killing

[compact cargo]

but what blessings?

[marble crater]

Someone else explained it well the other day, not so much a team game as 4 people solo playing at the same time, or something like that

[digital narwhal]

I dislike Smite on the principle that it's entire balance state is turning the game off.

It goes against the design of a Tide game.

Just... so boring.

[radiant ice]

XD

[marble crater]

One big ball is good yes? With Nexus and Surge you can have two big balls, very good.
Or Nexus and Flurry for more consistent one big ball damage

[compact cargo]

Exactly!

I'm between either

and idk which I enjoy more!

[fiery stratus]

Double is more gooder because it cleaves well

[wet gust]

Is that the big void ball staff?

[marble crater]

Cleaves weller*

[fiery stratus]

Tru

[radiant ice]

Double is better

But flurry is fun too

[wet gust]

Long ago I remember I was playing some kind of flamethrower staff build

[radiant ice]

Soulblaze inferno is also so much fun

Especially since they added Blaze Away blessing

[wet gust]

What is the dump stat on staves? Warp Resist?

[marble crater]

Inferno
Purgatus

[marble crater]

With some exceptions, yes

[radiant ice]

On all except ball staff yeah, I'd say so

[marble crater]

If you do surge primary attack spam you don't need charge speed for example

[radiant ice]

Argument for Quell Speed on some

Ball staff is blast radius

[narrow lichen]

Bruh I swear Disrupt Destiny is bugged

i know im repeating myself at this point

but it will mark 8 enemies alright but then refuses to mark anything when a new horde wave starts

[wet gust]

Let's see if I can survive in a diff 4 game

[spice veldt]

DD doesn't mark groaners/poxwalkers if you're getting mixed up by that

[marble crater]

The most difficult thing about difficulty 4 are the teammates

[spice veldt]

if you're referring to the long delay after DD fails to mark a target, then yeah that's annoying

[narrow lichen]

yeah it makes the penance way more annoying than it should be

[open iris]

You got this bro

[narrow lichen]

I swear the radius should be reduced to 10m and a forced refresh be at 2s

cause the game clearly cant handle it

[marble crater]

[spice flame]

Jesus that auric mael was hell, not even 2mn in and a solo zealot triggers the DH, dies, leaves, then an other zealot triggers and other DH, same story, hunting groudd triggers and ppl are just running around instead of grouping, then AN OTHER ZEALOT goes by himself during an event, trapper, dies, leaves because ofc, final event was a clusterfuck, ppl were dying left and right, leaving ofc ofc... But we made it.

[open iris]

The vet or whoever that is will clutch trust

[narrow lichen]

I had better luck with Linger Influence

[spice flame]

I think I've seen like 10 ppl in that game

[narrow lichen]

since that can compensate with the buginess of DD

[marble crater]

Just zealot things

[spice flame]

ISTG

[wet gust]

I feel like I do tons of lightnings of 1 damage

[marble crater]

Yes smite without the boost from EP doesn't deal damage really

Need EP smite and then also use venting shriek to prolong it

[wet gust]

boost of what?

[open iris]

Best use case is stunning enemies when needed

[spice flame]

EP

[marble crater]

The middle keystone

[open iris]

Like 4 crushers when in a corner

[wet gust]

ahh

[narrow lichen]

goated keystone for BB

[plucky flax]

Burga

[marble crater]

Also acceptable

[spice flame]

HMm I don't remember nor do I have the patience to test. Does EP BB triggers that ?

[marble crater]

Yes

Infinite EP BB

[wet gust]

I just been called idiot for dying twice

[spice flame]

Dw

we're all idiots

[marble crater]

As I said

[spice flame]

Hm, interesting yeah

[wet gust]

I don't even care hahaha

[spice flame]

idk why but I kinda want to run on heresi rn, to remember what it was

hell, malice even

[marble crater]

Empty, mostly

[spice flame]

There's a mael malice, perfect

[wet gust]

I feel quite useless with this low damage x' D

[marble crater]

Unless there is a big horde or a wave of elites use your staff

[open iris]

Seems you need build help

[wet gust]

skill issue

[open iris]

That too maybe

[wet gust]

I have no idea on using this x' D

I see this Smite thing as a Support somehow

Like 100 speed 1 damage

[marble crater]

Maybe find a video to get an idea, I guess you are using smite too much and in the wrong situations

[radiant frigate]

perilous

[cloud night]

Blue fire gang

https://tenor.com/view/powers-aesthetics-gif-19518842

[marble crater]

Green fire gang

[wet gust]

Protego Diabolica

[open iris]

I rarely use my blitz as a psyker, more for niche situations (I also don't use the shard blitz)

[eager lotus]

Started playing this game again recently and I'm really liking the psyker's lightning ability. It's great when you've got a buddy just clubbing the mobs down as they're staggered.

[stark crown]

See if it was a veteran instead of them berating you they should’ve yelled at you so you can get the wacky golden toughness to enable the stupidity even further

LMAO

[radiant ice]

Question for stat nerds about health breakpoints. Is the sniper extra hit at 200 or 201 to survive?

[stark crown]

Anything above 200 with resist iirc

[radiant ice]

So… 201?

[stark crown]

I know Vet needs 1 sniper res at 200 HP to eat a sniper round

[radiant frigate]

alternatively, 2 sniper resist and a health curio

[stark crown]

Supposedly

[radiant frigate]

makes you survive sub-200 too

[radiant ice]

Oh it’s more just knowledge I’m searching for, for future build knowledge

Not specifically a build I’m building

[radiant ice]

Thing is, sniper resist feels like such a waste of a perk

I can’t remember the last time a sniper actually hit me

But gunners are constant headaches

[radiant frigate]

you will feel it when you take a sniper shot that was meant for someone else (no audio cue)

[stark crown]

It’s a once in a blue moon scenario

[radiant frigate]

or when you take one as you got ressed

[radiant ice]

Yeah, agreed so I feel that’s why 2 sniper res is a big waste, although I can kinda see having 1

[stark crown]

Either you’re so occupied you don’t notice the laser shinning in the back of your head

Or it’s those 2

Where it’s basically unavoidable

[radiant frigate]

way i see it, if you are considering the snoiper breakpoint, you will either be bringing 2 sniper resist or 1 sniper resist + a bunch of health

[stark crown]

Gunner res on the other hand

[radiant frigate]

can you believe that there are still people that don't think gunner resist is core?

inconceivable

[stark crown]

Ye who shall not be named

[spice veldt]

solution: sniper's laser now functions like titanfall's charge laser and deals damage while it's pointing at you

[stark crown]

Look anything to say fuck gunner stun I’m taking it

[spice veldt]

coincidentally, bump up the base damage of sniper by 100x so that you are instantly obliterated upon contact

[ornate hamlet]

ok guys heres the run down: I have Purdue frozen chicken nuggets cooking right now. Do I use the honey BBQ sauce or the chick-filet sauce with them?

[stark crown]

Besides I managed to make an Agri 9 VA build on Psyker that literally plays like a squisher carbon copy of my vet

So I’ve just been hopping between the two

[marble crater]

Use ketchup

[upper sun]

chick filet sauce

[spice veldt]

i like some sweetness personally so honey bbq

[upper sun]

BBQ sauce is for eggs ONLY

[upper sun]

noooooo

[marble crater]

[spice flame]

uh, really is

[upper sun]

actually ignore everything and buy garlic sauce

[radiant ice]

Hmm here is the debate on my current build:

135 Toughness
197 Health
60% Gunner Resist

Or

135 Toughness
205 Health
40% Gunner Resist

[stark crown]

40

Imo 60% is nice but I’m one to prefer really only needing 2-1 cause it gives me a second to react to gunner stun

[ornate hamlet]

I used to eat at a place called fuddruckers and I would get chicken fingers and then use their honey mustard you can pour from the condiments area in a paper cup

Those chicken fingers + honey mustard were 10/10

[open iris]

Only one I take gunner resistance on is ogryn

Psyker already has so many options for dealing with gunner

[plucky flax]

Okay this is kinda cool on vet.

[open iris]

Even then I do ok with no gunner resistance on ogryn

[spice flame]

I've been agilepilled lately on DS vet yeah

[radiant frigate]

i am an agile denier

i have been critmaxxing with ds

[prime elk]

i should stop using agile DS, it's going to cause bad habits lol

[plucky flax]

Same I thought I wouldn't need it but on vet it's kind of sus.

[spice flame]

Yeah

[plucky flax]

Agile actually really helps for vet.

[radiant frigate]

but not like complete critmaxxing

shred riposte on bp zealot..

[plucky flax]

On zealot and psyker though I don't need.

I think it's cos of the slow stam regen on vet.

So it feels so safe just to dodge spam lol

[spice flame]

actually critmaxxing has diminishing return blablabla

[stark crown]

Coming from a Vet main if you can put up with the fact youre losing out on like a better blessing option yeah it does let you move more

[radiant frigate]

riposte bp zealot good enough for critmaxxing

[spice veldt]

vet's dodge cooldown is 200ms compared to psyker/vet's dodge cooldown of 150ms between consecutive dodges

[hollow maple]

Zealot chat is brainwashed into only running thrust precog/uncanny on dueling sword

[stark crown]

Look those .25 stam regen nodes do not fuck around

[plucky flax]

I am really noob vet.

I did take 1 stam regen delay node already.

[hollow maple]

agile, shread and rampage are all great alternatives to thrust precog/uncanny

[plucky flax]

Okay this explains it then.

[hollow maple]

i don't like thrust on dueling sword anyways

[patent mango]

man this game is dark twisted

[plucky flax]

You mean zealot tho right?

[stark crown]

Yeah it’s why you tend to have to push twice at times

For dodge to come back

[spice flame]

WHo needs uncanny strike when DS is already busted

[hollow maple]

precog crit already kills a crusher

[plucky flax]

My last game was 2 zealots 1 vet (me) 1 ogryn. All 3 humans used ds4.

We need to take it back from the stinkies our sword.

[radiant frigate]

precog is garbage!!

[spice veldt]

OH right that should say psyker/zealot yeah

[near drift]

so called free thinkers when ds4 exists

[plucky flax]

This game has a ds4 problem.

[stark crown]

Look I’ll say this the moment you start using less effective weapons and make it work on Vet you realize what is and isn’t good on Vet

[plucky flax]

Pls ban ds4 from zealot and vet.

[hollow maple]

Yeah ds4 was fine when it was only on the psyker

but it's outta control on all humans

[spice veldt]

mmmmmmmm it certainly was busted on psyker as well

[hollow maple]

idek if it's necessarily a problem for ds, when it kinda goes universally for finesse crit weapons

main reason why knife is so strong too

[stark crown]

DS was already busted

It’s just

[spice flame]

It's hella busted on veteran with their bonus finess

[stark crown]

More noticeable now

[spice veldt]

duelling sword's stab heavies are pretty obviously an outlier https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1309287207139545179/image.png?ex=674d8e7b&is=674c3cfb&hm=b5cc3b29976e370cb480b5522d6ffe830b1ea8f872464523db4bdb4c7dae94a2&

[stark crown]

They don’t know about Zealot DS4/Bolter

[plucky flax]

Ds4 bistol on vet.

[hollow maple]

bolter i sleep

[stark crown]

Bistol I can respect a bit more

[hollow maple]

bistol i wake

[spice flame]

I hate bolter

[plucky flax]

Bolter is too OP.

[radiant frigate]

ds4 reconlas

[plucky flax]

I don't like playing it.

[radiant frigate]

class does not matter

[stark crown]

Reminder

[prime elk]

i won't tolerate this bolter heresy

[radiant frigate]

only ds4 reconlas

[quartz barn]

going from vet with ds to psyk with ds feels bad :/

[hollow maple]

I play knife bistol

[quartz barn]

vet just gets to do double dmg for no reason

[stark crown]

Zealot with Fury can 4/5ths HP a T.captain

[patent mango]

ds4 ogryn

[stark crown]

Why?

Fuck you DS is that strong

[spice flame]

Toothpick

[near drift]

I've been doing chaxe/double barrel wep spec vet for a bit just cuz I find it fun but I think I've seen exactly one other other chaxe user in like 50 matches

[patent mango]

random 30% weakspot dmg talent lmfao

[quartz barn]

weakspot dmg bonus, ogryn dmg bonus

[queen fog]

Give him 3 of them, FOR EACH HAND

[radiant frigate]

hello i would like to know about the agripinaa IX

[queen fog]

Ogryn Wolverine doing a better job being a blender with claws than a drunk space wolf

I’d believe it

[spice flame]

Would be too dangerous for the team

TOOT

[plucky flax]

Also vet has so much finese I actually don't need uncanny on him.

I run uncanny on psyker and zealot tho.

[spice flame]

Exactly

[hollow maple]

You don't need uncanny on zealot

precog + landing a crit is all you need to take care of carapace enemies

[patent mango]

dont even need blessings for ds zealot

[hollow maple]

and precog is more versatile cuz it works on unyielding

[spice flame]

You don't even need zealot

[plucky flax]

No I hate precog I am not good enough to use the 2s duration.

[sour nest]

Don't even need DS4

[spice veldt]

uncanny also works on unyielding

[plucky flax]

Yeah uncanny works on unyieldin and carapace the most.

[spice veldt]

ds4 should have 100% adms or something close to that for everything besides cara, so that's a 1.25x boost to your damage output to flak/unyielding/maniac

[spice flame]

Ds4 should shoot a big energy projectile, preferably blue, and being 2 handed

[spice veldt]

TRUEEEEE

[patent mango]

i think force gs should obliterate all enemies

[spice flame]

[spice veldt]

i've never met a person be so right in my life

[spice flame]

TWO DAYS

[stark crown]

Where would you want me to start exactly that’s my question

Cause I’ve finally found out how to make it good on Gunker

But it’s insane on Vet

“Insane”

[radiant frigate]

what is it and what does it do, is it the thing previously known as headhunter

[stark crown]

It’s balanced

[queen fog]

Can’t wait for tomorrow so I can post the other sticker

[stark crown]

Yeah it’s the headhunters, the Agri 9 is the two round burst mainly used for shutting down elites and specials, on Gunker bosses as well

[radiant frigate]

i thought headhunters had shitty unyielding damage

[stark crown]

It also has a wacky gimmick of having the lowest zoom

[radiant frigate]

or maybe i was thinking maniac

[stark crown]

Maniac

Dog shit maniac

Why no one uses them

[spice veldt]

bad unyielding and maniac

though its mostly fine for the current level of difficulty since their baseline damage output is reasonably good

[stark crown]

However the finesse values make up for it if you can keep your aim on weak points

[thorn blaze]

Is there a clear winner on Psyker auras or do we snort CDR here?

[spice flame]

Voidstrike kinda needs the crit aura

But I'm cd aura pilled otherwise

[near drift]

The elite DMG one is prob the weakest of the bunch

[queen fog]

Same that CD aura makes a difference

[stark crown]

The Agri 9 has a weird gimmick over the other two where it doesn’t have an increase ADS zoom which offers a far more aggressive run and gun playstyle

So I recommend doing Headhunter + Deadly accurate for it @radiant frigate

[queen fog]

Most people that I’d give crit aura either already have enough crit chance on their build

Or the opposite where the amount the aura gives doesn’t aid in crits as often as preferred

So ya ima keep snorting CD aura

[cloud night]

Cooldown aura for venting shriek...I think

[spice flame]

Definitely

[stark crown]

Warp charges

If you feel so inclined

[radiant frigate]

interesting concept

[spice flame]

Creeping flame spam

[radiant frigate]

headhunter seems notsogreat on psyker since true aim exists

[stark crown]

It’s actually

A little bonus imo

You’ll notice true aim is your safety if for some reason it just won’t fucking Crit

[plucky flax]

Go CDR aura unless you play gazer then take crit chance aura.

[stark crown]

But anyways if you can flick onto heads consider giving it a try on Gunker

Though like you’ll notice you’ll be using melee a bit more cause the gun is more resigned for

Elite or special kills

[plucky flax]

Do I play ds4 autopistol vet?

[stark crown]

I tend to use Assail for toughness

[stark crown]

I tried making it good it’s not possible

Minus DS4

[verbal thistle]

go ex-stance

[stark crown]

DS4 is good

[plucky flax]

Pre patch 13 meta but it's super weak?

[stark crown]

Lmao

[verbal thistle]

@spiral moth did it last night

was fun

ex-stance shredder with focus target

[wet gust]

Time to try to remember how to burn and purify infidels

[patent mango]

imagine if they buff autopistol next update

[patent mango]

eh

[plucky flax]

I don't want to play volley fire.

[patent mango]

im fine either way

[plucky flax]

I want to p shout and have an easy time.

[patent mango]

though it'd be way funnier if they nerfed autopistol for no reason

[near drift]

ds4 buffed autopistol nerfed

[spice flame]

-We are removing autopistol
Reasons : it's shit

[clear heath]

Anyone wanna play a few games?

[radiant frigate]

i already use melee a lot, and my ranged is mostly reserved for reapers or bosses (or happy funtimes when i can waste ammo)

[radiant frigate]

it's like a shitty braced vraks autogun

[spice flame]

ikr

Idk how to buff it tho. Maybe give it a REAL speedy reolad time

and uuuh

idk a special attack where you throw the gun like a rock cause it would do more damage anyway

[clear heath]

give it pre-nerf pinning fire

[patent mango]

make shredder autopistol shoot assail shards

[spice flame]

and the recoil when not aming is hooooooorrible

[plucky flax]

Maybe I play the 3 rounds burst autogun.

[clear heath]

agent do you wanna join me for a few games?

[spice flame]

at least you look a bit cool when sliding an shooting

[radiant ice]

That's a sexy crit chance

[cloud night]

Burn them all sibling!

[near drift]

just make autopistol akimbo like the old mw2 g18s for rule of cool

[cloud night]

https://tenor.com/view/dabi-yes-my-hero-academia-anime-power-gif-17542677

[patent mango]

make them shred armor

[spice flame]

I think I wanna play gunker now

[plucky flax]

No I am memeing in psykhanium sorry mate. Tomorrow I can.

I am just chilling before bed.

[clear heath]

k

[queen fog]

Best of luck on your games json

[spice flame]

I have that old setup, and it's a bit overkill nah ?

[radiant ice]

I've never really found the two outside scriers nodes useful

Unless I just have two spare points and nowhere to put them

[spice flame]

I could probably without at least without the DR

speed is nice

[patent mango]

warp speed is jolly

[ocean totem]

Smite psykers try not to be completely useless challenge

(Impossible)

[patent mango]

idk if im gonna use warp unbound fo force gs yet

i might not need it

[spice flame]

why is that node here btw

[stark crown]

You’d probably like the build I could toss you it when I’m off work

[patent mango]

idk

i'd rather have another melee node

right side can take that then

[radiant frigate]

i would probably like it until i see bonbon

[stark crown]

But it’s literally just pop Scriers and mainly focus melee until a special appears

[cloud night]

Ion know but that pisses me off lmao

[patent mango]

maybe we could get a specialized toughness for melee node

[stark crown]

BON?

[radiant frigate]

also kind of like the luxury of free toughness refresh with reconlas

[radiant frigate]

beast of nurgle yes-yes

[spice flame]

Fun fact, bonbon is the french word for candy

[stark crown]

Oh it’s fucking hilarious

[spice flame]

See ya tomorrow for more french fact

[stark crown]

it’s SG

[patent mango]

bonbon is like that round candy here

[spice flame]

fuck you

[stark crown]

With Precog

[radiant frigate]

it is also the same in german

[plucky flax]

Yo wtf the 3 rounds burst but if you have full auto mod it kind of become full auto.

[stark crown]

On a gun with already good finnesse

BON hp go bye bye

[spice flame]

No more french, it makes my game crash.

[radiant frigate]

yes but what if cannot hit the back

[stark crown]

Patience

[radiant frigate]

portugues bonbon..

[stark crown]

That or aim for the mouth

[spice flame]

cheater

[patent mango]

bonbon

[radiant frigate]

what if alone.. what if simpletons gone

[stark crown]

Cause that’s just BONs they’re miserable

[plucky flax]

It's kind of sick I don't hate it.

[radiant frigate]

despair time?

[stark crown]

Assail or risk using Deimos Special

[spice flame]

(and Bon means good in french)

[marble crater]

Also German

[stark crown]

This build has assail for when you need to get toughness off of trash

[marble crater]

Oh

[spice flame]

hehe

So that's where I landed on my gunker build

[stark crown]

Oh I dug up the old version, we swapped the assail cleave for warp splitting I think

The peril = cleave

But this shit is just extreme speed

[spice flame]

Now, lasgun recon or infrantry vraks

[marble crater]

That's a lot of sciers nodes

[spice flame]

ig Vraks

[stark crown]

Look man it goes hard as hell

Don’t knock it till you try it

[marble crater]

maybe I will

[lean mural]

is excise vault out of rotation rn or what's going on

[spice flame]

Is that an Assassination mission ?

[lean mural]

raid

[spice flame]

well

idk

Can't remember any names

[lean mural]

the only one i still need to do on auric damnation and i haven't seen it in like a week

it's the one in the hourglass (sandy area) where you open the vaults around the central hub and toss the canisters in

[marble crater]

I think they disabled two maps?

[verbal thistle]

3

assassination maps and vault side

[marble crater]

[spice flame]

Now that you mention it

[lean mural]

blya.

are they gonna fix those in grim protocols that we know of?

[wet gust]

Should I find another one?

[marble crater]

Probably

[verbal thistle]

thats perfect

[marble crater]

No, that's perfect

[wet gust]

ok noice

Now I have to make it to 20 to refine those bars

[radiant frigate]

not too dissimilar from my setup

[stark crown]

It’s so fucking funny

Anyways
Agri 9 VA: Flak/Maniac & Headhunter + Deadly Accurate

Deimos: Slaughterer + Riposte? (Crit on Dodge)

You probably could swap out one of them for uncanny if you really don’t want to deal with carapace but like I’m sticking with it cause Evasion proccing every 3 seconds is peak

[radiant frigate]

i never run without uncanny

but riposte would be my pick otherwise

[steel flame]

You'll get more value from precog than you will from riposte

[radiant frigate]

cease

[stark crown]

I understand that but it’s mainly to assist with proccing Evasion an unhealthy amount

That’s why

Trust me I would’ve suggested precog otherwise

[radiant frigate]

2s is just too short

[steel flame]

Fair enough, though shred tends to do a better job in hordes which is where you usually need empathic

[stark crown]

Yeah though keep in mind

You miss

[radiant frigate]

shred takes 5 swings to stack and drops on miss

[stark crown]

Drops massively in Crit

[radiant frigate]

riposte lasts 6s on dodge which is much more reasonable

no windup time either

[stark crown]

Basically though it’s up to you

You want to gamble

Or just stable Crit increase

[cloud night]

Nah u good
Ironic i havw the opp of that with QS being at 60 but ion give a fuck
I aint rebuilding another staff lmao

[steel flame]

God i wish force swords got warp nexus

Its an absolute crime that they don't

[plucky flax]

Hey I kind of don't hate it.

Oh the preview doesn't work.

[marble crater]

[steel flame]

Susssy file. Ban this man

[plucky flax]

[steel flame]

XP

[spice flame]

infantry Vraks needs more ammo

[plucky flax]

It's full auto but really slow.

[steel flame]

Nah, BRACED AUTOGUNS NEED MORE AMMO

[spice flame]

Both, both both

That's why I don't like gunker, I'm always running around for ammo

[steel flame]

Wtf even is the point of giving us braced auto guns if they have the same mag size and barely any ammo

So I'm trading the ability to ads for ...........fuck all?

[patent jacinth]

Cleave

For the Agri at least

[steel flame]

Stop being cowards fatshark and make the braced auto guns backpack fed

[patent jacinth]

Encounters the same issue that volley guns have

It would overwrite our cosmetic backpack

[steel flame]

I sure as hell can live with that

[patent jacinth]

It still presents an issue where people would dislike that they couldn’t use a thing and a paid item at the same time

[steel flame]

-_- I hate live service and paid cosmetics because they only make the game worse in all instances

[patent jacinth]

Too bad the paid shop is someone else’s work

[quartz barn]

at the end of the day its still a choice fs made tho

its just out of their control now

to a certain degree ofc

[plucky flax]

Mfw they randomly charge some sets more money because it took more 'effort'.

When game first release a bundle was cheaper + trinket + weapon skin.

[quartz barn]

mfw there's about 8 sets that just get recolored and sold full price as premium

also remember shaders

[patent mango]

they truly put all the effort into force gs now

[steel flame]

Oh, why can't we have weapon customization? Oh we don't know how to make you pay for it. Why is my inventory full of recolors? Oh because if we let you choose the color we couldn't sell it to you. Oh sorry we can't give you the 90 different backpack fed 40k weapons cause we need to sell you backpacks

[radiant frigate]

in 2 days you won't need to

force greatsword will delvier you to greatness

[analog agate]

It’s sad that, because of mods, we know the vast amount of customization we can have. Right now

[steel flame]

Yeah it def limits what is viable for a full gunker build. Right now laspistol and bolt pistol are the best for it but you can still run into ammo problems

[analog agate]

Imo, gunker is a melee/assail build with gun burst dmg

It doesn’t use gun that much

[wet gust]

Well, now it is waaaaaay easier than before. You can do it in like 5 clicks x' D

[marble crater]

Is it Monday for you already?

[queen fog]

no just my standards for weeks are scewed by the power of weekends existing

[steel flame]

@analog agate Only if you play that way. Bolt pistol and laspistol are my main source of damage and assail is just there to conserve ammo in trash and melee is there for crushers

[marble crater]

Fair enough I guess

[cloud night]

Thats why u have the cosmic crack rocks

[zinc phoenix]

Gunker was weak

Simply melee everything to death 😤

[steel flame]

Been running gunker since before the skill tree. Laspistol always pulled its weight in gunker builds

And it melts bosses even harder now than it did then

[patent mango]

force gs meleeker gonna go wild

[steel flame]

Not a fan of auto gun gunker though

[patent mango]

bistol gunker

[steel flame]

God I love bistol gunker, I just wish it had boss damage

[patent mango]

deimos h2 to the head

[steel flame]

Non melee boss damage

[patent mango]

throw bistol at em

[zinc phoenix]

I’m gonna go nuts if it’s actually good

[patent mango]

if its actually good im gonna play psyker so much lmao

[plucky flax]

Yes. It's to simply ignore the monster and pray the other 3 dudes will deal with it.

[steel flame]

Yeah...

[zinc phoenix]

I already tear ass up with the ds2/4/5 so getting something better 🙏 so good

[patent mango]

i want my real melee glass cannon

[clear heath]

...

[zinc phoenix]

Also ds5 is actually kinda nice defensively, just sucks when you want to hit something with the heavy and somehow the huge slash misses something practically up your nose

[zinc phoenix]

😂

[clear heath]

it was a smyker

[zinc phoenix]

Always is lmao

[clear heath]

I never saw anything with soulblaze for like the entire game

Saw his weapon at the end

i literally had no idea

[tired estuary]

they probably quickswapped by accident

[spice flame]

But I like Vraks

F

[steel flame]

It's attack hit box is basically the same as the ds4 without it being a straight on stab and has basically 0 cleave so it's total ass and I wish it wasn't

[zinc phoenix]

It’s so annoyingly hard to use

Same issue as the hammer lights that can’t hit anything

[patent mango]

gunker has ammo problems?

[steel flame]

Apparently

News to me

[spice flame]

Don't give me that sass

[cloud night]

Gunker doesnt have ammo problems
Its users have an aiming problem

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[spice flame]

I'm just trigger happy

[cloud night]

Me forgetting theres an fov slide, fuckin hell

Do yall prefer motion blur or no

[open iris]

Nope

[fiery stratus]

who uses motion blur?

[open iris]

It's supposed to simulate high fps but it actually makes performance worse at the same time lol

[fiery stratus]

the original intent for motion blur was to coverup screen tearing because pcs were shit

we're way over that now

[open iris]

Console players that can't turn it off (idk about darktide)

[fiery stratus]

gotta cover up the screentearing because the consoles are shit

[clear heath]

At this point i'm convinced games leave motion blur on to make us feel proud of ourselves for turning it off

[cloud night]

I dont fuck with motion blur either
Shit makes me naseous

[fiery stratus]

gotta cover up the screen tearing because they all have 70inch tvs that max out at 60hz

[blissful solar]

only the most advanced types of motion blur can look any good but then they probably cost performance for basically nothing

[fiery stratus]

at this point if you have a pc you probably have a 144hz monitor, if your pc can support that theres no reason for motion blur to exist for you

at least 144

mine is 165

[marble crater]

We can turn it off

[open iris]

Ik in ds3 you can't turn it off on xbox lol

[fiery stratus]

anyone played the elden ring dlc on console?

its fucking terrible

[cloud night]

dick suckers 3? /s

[marble crater]

If I had it installed right now I would check

[open iris]

It might be installed still for me, I can check later

[cloud night]

On one hand I can bind my blitz and reload/quell together so that it'd be easier to chuck knives with zealot

On the other... I gotta switch back melee just to use blitz because it registers as reload/quell on my ranged

On one of my mouse buttons

[marble crater]

I thought people play on PC so they don't have these problems

[spice flame]

The mission started 2mn ago, the zealot is just

[radiant frigate]

nyoom

[fiery stratus]

thats when you let them do their own thing

they probably die and leave anyway like most times

[plucky flax]

Hrm I have not encountered balls spamming surge staff user the past couple days.

Just a random thought.

[fiery stratus]

i don't even pay attention to other peoples builds

unless i occasionally remember to look at peoples knives to see if they're terrible

[marble crater]

You could be the ball spamming surge staff user

[plucky flax]

Tru but I actually hate playing it.

[radiant frigate]

all knives are terrible

[plucky flax]

It's strong it's boring and it's just not satisfying.

[fiery stratus]

only if you're bad with them

[plucky flax]

I find much more satisfaction with right click.

[radiant frigate]

i might be

[fiery stratus]

if you know how to use it, its one of the most braindead weapons

[cobalt glen]

how do you use the knife good?

[plucky flax]

Lacerate uncanny on zealot gud?

[fiery stratus]

punch more

[radiant frigate]

it just feels a lot like Shitty DS4

[cobalt glen]

ic

[fiery stratus]

use your heavy attack chain as your run up attack, punch then light follow up

push attack if you want

that chain will kill nearly anything that isnt a monstrosity

[cobalt glen]

well thats good to know

[fiery stratus]

punch is very underrated, hardly anyone actually uses it

[cobalt glen]

what makes the punch good?

[fiery stratus]

its staggers anything that isn't a monster/nurgle blessed, and it always starts the next attack as a heavy

also with the mk6 in particular, it always defaults the next attack to a stab, instead of a slash ect

and uses no stamina btw

better than pushblock a lot of times

[cobalt glen]

icic
oo no stamina

im super new so just trying to learn things x3

[cloud night]

It'd be sad if the new zealot gs actually trounced the hyped up force gs

[fiery stratus]

well thats personal preference

we already know its just executioner sword

somethings still hidden for force gs for now

[cloud night]

ngl i said itd be sad here and itd be funny in the other chat to see responses
Duality type deal

But yea true

[spice flame]

happening rn in my game

Twice today

[fiery stratus]

just report for macro use

[cobalt glen]

whats that

[fiery stratus]

they're doing the LMB attack for the staff, which is a small energy ball that shoots fast af and does reasonable damage

theres a method where you can quell after each shot and basically fire like an automatic rifle

and theres a method where you use a macro to not have to quell manually, you can just bind it all to lmb

technically not allowed on the macro though probably

[queen fog]

Automated psyker ballin, how disappointing

Can’t enjoy the ballin if you aren’t the one doing the input imo

[fiery stratus]

idk, i don't really like staves anyway but its lazy for sure

[radiant frigate]

ah, LMB surge surge terrorism

[cobalt glen]

ah so basically a hacky

[analog agate]

I have been stupidly parroting both sides of the macro debate in the sense of all macros are fine vs complex ones aren’t. But honestly, I haven’t seen any evidence that you would get banned for using any type of macro. And the only word we have is fatshark being fine with macros

[flint pawn]

..I beg your pardon?

[fiery stratus]

looks good to me

[fiery stratus]

makes sense, pve game with a ton of mods that are borderline cheating anyway so what difference does it make

[tired estuary]

change up your control scheme so lmb becomes rmb

[plucky flax]

That's high IQ.

Why didn't I think of that?

[analog agate]

Someone here was saying some players (asian?) have gotten banned for abusing lmb ek. And I haven’t see evidence of that

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/ladno-gif-20837499

[plucky flax]

Can you play a round when it's right click to attack and left clcik to block?

[fiery stratus]

no i dont have middle fingers

[tired estuary]

Hell no lmao I'd instantly implode

Would turn into an irl warp gate

[cloud night]

Nice

[flint pawn]

I have a confession

I already do this

[plucky flax]

WTF

WHYYYY

Don't tell me you ads with left click and shoot with right click

[flint pawn]

it was a meme for a challenge run until I unfortunately realized I liked it

[cloud night]

I do too

[plucky flax]

This is bruh moment

[flint pawn]

please forgive me AgentChaos

I know Unsanctioned Psyker will be displeased

[cloud night]

I actually dont but i figure if there was a plus 1 it might've blown chaos' mind or some shit

[clear heath]

what the

[patent mango]

i put crouch on spacebar and jump on c

[flint pawn]

what's the default for crouch

[spice veldt]

i've swapped my LMB and RMB to practice my middle finger

[patent mango]

idk

[fiery stratus]

control?

i think

[flint pawn]

ah

I have mine on left shift

[leaden vault]

As long as I got a good pre-made team would be hard to do Malleus Monstronum (for context I'm lvl 15)

[fiery stratus]

ight

people be having the weirdest binds

[spice veldt]

malleus will be fine cuz the other person can take aggro and you can just dumpster on the boss with BB

[flint pawn]

my sprint is control

[patent mango]

have a tank ogryn just kinda eat all the dmg

[fiery stratus]

y

[patent mango]

or like run around lmfao

[leaden vault]

k thx guys

[spice flame]

Maellus us basically the only penance I have to do for psyker

ugh

[fiery stratus]

sprint on control is harder to reach for me, and not having crouch/slide on c is painful

[patent mango]

crouch on spacebar makes sliding so easy

[fiery stratus]

slide has to be somewhere easy to reach for dodge sliding

[spice veldt]

my dodge/sprint is on [Shift], and I have my crouch on [C]

[spice flame]

The only "weird" setup I have is jump on alt and dodge on spacebar

But I think a lot of players do that

[fiery stratus]

a lot of people rebind jump

[patent mango]

i like shift to dodge

[fiery stratus]

but tbh i think its better to keep it default, it teaches you the dodge timing and forces the muscle memory

[flint pawn]

wait no I have my keybinds mixed up sorry

my dodge is shift

my crouch is v

[patent mango]

silliest keybinds

[fiery stratus]

tf is shift

space

[patent mango]

(i also got silly ones)

[fiery stratus]

i mean

[flint pawn]

left shift

[fiery stratus]

is space still jump?

[flint pawn]

yeah

[plucky flax]

I have weapon swap on B and tag on Q.

[patent mango]

funny

[fiery stratus]

i dont even use q for quickswapping

ive always hit 1 and 2 for switching

[flint pawn]

I'm gonna say something that might get me shot with a laspistol

my weapon special activation is X

[analog agate]

I don’t quick swap

[lethal lagoon]

quickswapping is generally for people who animation cancel.

[fiery stratus]

see i cant have all of these things on the keys around wasd, its gotta be spread out a bit

[cloud night]

Lets see
My jump is on backspace
My blitz is 9
My ult is K
To crouch is M

And uh... thats it

[fiery stratus]

get fucking crab hand trying to keep it all there

[lethal lagoon]

9?

[plucky flax]

Hrm weapon special is weird. You don't use it super often so it's just whatever is convenient for you. I have it on mouse 3 personally.

[lethal lagoon]

Are you an alien with extra long fingers?

[spice flame]

Either you're joking, or you're a psychopath

[plucky flax]

You move with arrow keys rather than wasd?

[fiery stratus]

my special is on my mouse side button because im sane

[cloud night]

Im full of shit
Most of the shit i say is laced with sarc

[lethal lagoon]

ET don't come home.

[radiant frigate]

no mouse gamer

[patent mango]

i bound attack to m1

[plucky flax]

I used to play counter strike for a time with arrow keys and numpads.

[fiery stratus]

[plucky flax]

Dunno why it wasn't any better than wasd.

[patent mango]

that'd make it even less bearable than usual

[cloud night]

See what i told atlas

[spice flame]

aye aye aye

[flint pawn]

guys I'm going to KFC do y'all want anything

[steel flame]

I think the novelty has finally worn off, thank god. Now it can go back to a funny I pull out now and then

[lethal lagoon]

We want things to be more bearable

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/hear-bear-bur-cute-dance-gif-25516832

[cloud night]

Drumsticks, just drumsticks

[plucky flax]

I'll play it tomorrow.

[patent mango]

bear witness

[clear heath]

yeah get me some fried chicken

[spice flame]

I have my special attack bound to left pad on a dance dance revolution mat

[clear heath]

actually now that you've mentioned it, i'm craving fried chicken

wow

[fiery stratus]

my blitz is still g, probably should've put that on something a little easier to reach but fuggit

[flint pawn]

kentucky fried greatsword, drumsticks, fried chicken, anything else

[strong gulch]

That's my dodge button.

[fiery stratus]

[lethal lagoon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXA5r8LOBPo

[steel flame]

Ew, Dodge will never leave my space bar

[patent mango]

bear!!

[fiery stratus]

dodge and jump is fine on space, you just have to internalize that you can't dodge forward, and you can only jump forward

[spice veldt]

i have my blitz on X so that it's accessible by my thumb and so that it doesn't require my index to access

[plucky flax]

What the, how do you jump?

[radiant frigate]

also space

[flint pawn]

autovault mod

[spice flame]

alt space

[lethal lagoon]

Man fromsoftware always goes ham with the voice actors. It probably wasn't that expensive either cause they just use theater actors most of the time.

[plucky flax]

What if you want to dodge but you jump?

[cloud night]

I have my blitz on C and reload relegated to a mouse button

Same with weapon actions actually

[fiery stratus]

again if you work it in your mind, that you can only jump foward, its not that hard to not jump when dodging

[radiant frigate]

it is a risk i am willing to take

[steel flame]

It was internalized 10 years ago in vermintide xP

[fiery stratus]

and if you're jumping when trying to dodge its because you're spamming it and your timing is off

[radiant frigate]

yes very true

[lethal lagoon]

Reload on your mouse?

It just get's worse every sentence.

[plucky flax]

Imagine trying to dodge crusher overhead but you jump up into the big ass rebar instead.

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine not having a skill issue

agent chaos impossible challenge

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[steel flame]

If you just move after hitting space you can jump where you dam well please, it's not that hard

[fiery stratus]

if you're smart you should understand that this is fucking backpeddling the game

[patent mango]

just bind dodge to every button

[fiery stratus]

never just hold sprint

[lethal lagoon]

Backpeddling is unironically a sign of low IQ. That's what WoW taught me.

[fiery stratus]

true

the strategy is to always move forward into the shit

[patent mango]

bulldoze through enemies

[fiery stratus]

regardless of the situation

[cloud night]

Moreso for staff quelling, whatever
Makes it easier that way

[open iris]

Ngl I wish I had more buttons on my mouse

[fiery stratus]

i use 1 mouse side button

[upper sun]

ehm ehm

[spice veldt]

i would use reload on mouse but the side buttons on my mouse are so damn sketchy so i haven't bothered

[lethal lagoon]

The question is heretics, the answer is always death.
No "BuT my Cc iS heLPiNg"

[upper sun]

VIDEO GAMES???

[open iris]

Especially with the middle mouse button being broken

[patent mango]

where???

[fiery stratus]

put tag on t like vt2

[upper sun]

here

video gaems?

[patent mango]

how

its yip

[upper sun]

does anyone want to play VIDEO GAMES?

[patent mango]

not yet....

[lethal lagoon]

not till december 3rd.

[cloud night]

No im only here to watch slaanesh porn

[upper sun]

wow

WOWOWOW

[lethal lagoon]

I mean with those keybinds, I don't think anyone thought you were here for video games

[upper sun]

im listening to fulgrim rn

ur a horrible person

[cloud night]

Ik i am ♡

[upper sun]

maybe u should warm up before dec 3rd

[fiery stratus]

how 2 b rusty 4 havoc

[upper sun]

have you read fulgrim slaneeshi porn is uhhh not fun

[cloud night]

To each their own fucko, to each their own c:

[lethal lagoon]

First havoc levels are going to be easy, so if I warm up I'm just hurting myself.

[steel flame]

I tried that once but it makes aiming nigh on impossible when TWO of my fingers are having a seizure instead of one so I keep quell on my R and just learned to always move left forward or back while quell canceling

[upper sun]

ngmi...........

[lethal lagoon]

That's me, Fucko the Clown.

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-yucko-gif-9447669

[lethal lagoon]

[upper sun]

mfw havoc creators forgot about this one simple trick "1 psyker with purge"

[fiery stratus]

then 4000 specialists eat your face

[cloud night]

No problem for me, then again I have an actual functioning right hand where the thumb covers reload and my index and middle fingers do the rest

[lethal lagoon]

You know, dressing like a clown in a city is probably a great way not to get mugged or accousted by people for money.

[upper sun]

yeah youd know about that

[steel flame]

I have special attack and ping on my mouse buttons

[cloud night]

I have not
Once again I am a bullshitter

[lethal lagoon]

I do not deny in anyway my love for Dark Academia Clown-Core fashion.

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-down-to-clown-dosn-to-clown-down2clown-gitxaala-joel-brown-gif-22379517

[upper sun]

get it on audio book

its good

[fiery stratus]

[lethal lagoon]

I'd wear this in real life, except the hat. Incels ruined hats.

[steel flame]

Oh boy time to call the Inquisitor for another purge of psyker chat, seems we've had a warp incursion caused by the spark heads again

[lethal lagoon]

[cloud night]

Same

[lethal lagoon]

^ Reaver when they have a new keybind idea.

[steel flame]

And then you have the war criminals that put ping on their m1

They deserve to be hanged

[lethal lagoon]

Or mouse wheel scroll, and it just go brr.

[analog agate]

Faxts

[upper sun]

bruh

i have lost all ability to play psyker

[tacit stump]

why or how?

[tired estuary]

did your dodge button break

[upper sun]

3 months of zealot and 3 weeks of ogryn

[tacit stump]

the brainrot has affected you

[tired estuary]

okay then 3 days of soyker and you should be good to go

[tacit stump]

i have all around 30+ (80-95)

[digital narwhal]

Hi, Psyker Chat.
Here, have this:

[queen fog]

Gaze empowered cat patting

[upper sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053823148048527440/1312570557954265129/8mb.video-Ino-z7ZP0272.mp4?ex=674da2d7&is=674c5157&hm=0d602ad2dd0c1af406653e66222ce7bb522c2b201d5a7247a52641f61bf9d09a&
its over for me

[queen fog]

very good

[upper sun]

i am now an m1 ogryn

[radiant frigate]

what did he mean by this

there was no vet..

[spice veldt]

i see that your mental state is declining

[upper sun]

ask dorn why hes in US

[tacit stump]

get yourself the heavy stubber then i don't want to be thd main doom for enemy specials

[queen fog]

i assume his brain saw the recon and assumed it was a vet

[radiant frigate]

well i can't

1. i am not US
2. we wiped

[upper sun]

no im kickback only

[upper sun]

huh thats news to me

why what happened

[tacit stump]

...kickback likely gets nerfed

[radiant frigate]

well i was playing ogryn so i suck

[upper sun]

its ok ill replace it with heavy stubber

[radiant frigate]

and the other two were psykers so one burster knocked their daylights out

[upper sun]

more heavy attacks would shurely fix the issue

[radiant frigate]

technically it was also a burster combo that got me killed

yes which is why i am now on karsolas

[upper sun]

do u wanna try my ogryn build?

[digital narwhal]

Shouldn't be nerfed till 90% of the rest of Ogryn's roster gets buffed

Kickback is insane, but it's like... almost exclusively used due to other options also being shit

[tacit stump]

just the ammo economy

[digital narwhal]

Ogryn has Ripper V and Kickback

and that's like

it

Achlys Twin Link Stubber isn't as good as people think; it's just PBB that makes it strong.

Or rather that Achlys makes PBB strong.

[digital narwhal]

No, the infinite range Poxwalker one shot is also silly.

[late sapphire]

watch out man the last time i posted dorn complaining over build choices (he saw a psyker left click with a staff) he threatened to ban me for a week

[tacit stump]

thats grenade gaunlet thing

[digital narwhal]

Huh?

[fiery stratus]

ogryn needs big balancing in so many ways

[tacit stump]

poxburster are stupid when it comes to explosives they explode directly with

[digital narwhal]

I said Poxwalker

not Poxburster

[tacit stump]

oh

that is weak cannonfodder anyways

[digital narwhal]

Yeah.
Ogryn is the weakest of the 4 classes in terms of peak performance, but it's skill floor is just low enough and it's actually strong builds are strong in super unhealthy ways, so... yeah

[fiery stratus]

kickback has a mechanic where you only need to hit a minimum amount of pellets and it counts for full power

makes it broken

[digital narwhal]

Hordes should matter in a horde shooter

People should be able to play the video game without 1 person playing it for them

One Kickback = No horde engagement for anyone else

[analog agate]

Unless you are talking about another discord… Dorn has been banned here. So it doesn’t matter

[late sapphire]

The other shotguns at least need you to grab a specific pair of blessings for similar effect

[tacit stump]

make it a peashooter and ogryns are pissed how would you shange it

[digital narwhal]

Who says it needs to become a pea shooter?

A lot of the issue with Kickback atm is it's insane cleave
Honestly, infinite range Poxwalker one shot could stay if the cleave was brought down.

Or if the cleave should stay, then reduce the Infested ADM to eliminate the infinite range Poxwalker one shot.

But reducing cleave is the play.

[late sapphire]

Oh he got banned lol

Back when he was a pink name yeah

[zinc phoenix]

Orly? Why

[late sapphire]

Cause he's a cunt

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️

[fiery stratus]

people really be getting worked up over game mechanics

talking about builds and shit

[late sapphire]

Or rather a very abrasive person

[fiery stratus]

peoples weapons in games

[late sapphire]

I imagine he was pissing on people too often

[fiery stratus]

here i am not even paying attention to randoms because i expect them to die and leave anyway

[tired estuary]

p sure it was for breaking rules on witch hunting

[late sapphire]

I'm sure deep down he's a great guy

[spice veldt]

could just lower the minimum pellet count couldn't you w/o touching the infested adms overall

[digital narwhal]

True as well.

[analog agate]

It was based off of repeating inappropriate things. From the vague talk he was actually defending the community against a troll. But the mods also had enough that he didn’t follow the rules and report the user

[digital narwhal]

Generally, I think nerfs to the Kickback should come incrementally though; touch one thing, see how it is, approach from there.

[fiery stratus]

i guess you can use kickback for good clearing but i never do

[cloud night]

Sounds like a him problem tbh

[fiery stratus]

boring af

[digital narwhal]

Which is the problem
It removes the horde from the horde shooter, which makes it boring

[late sapphire]

kickback and rumbler spam are both pretty annoying

[fiery stratus]

just make it good against specials and shit against horde so people actually have to try

[spice flame]

Pain

[analog agate]

I think kickback is fine. Good horde clear ranged sacrificing for inconsistent special killing

[upper sun]

im launching the game rn

[late sapphire]

If you're EU i can bring you to complete the challenge

[digital narwhal]

Rumbler is weird.
It's both extremely problematic and extremely weak at the same time.
Infinite cleave, density scaling AOE, but really, really shitty single target damage.
It's projectile does barely anything.

[upper sun]

WOW

[spice flame]

Kind of you both, but it's getting late anyway

[fiery stratus]

yes im all for rumbler buffs

[upper sun]

5 minutes in and out