psyker-class

[blissful solar]

what sort of lunatic ads's with las pistol

[chilly breach]

The wording on some weapon blessings/advantages seem weird to me.
On the psi sword one reads "+1,5 stamina" and on the wand it reads "1,5 stamina (active weapon)" does this mean that the sword buff applies to all weapons stamina?

[patent jacinth]

I play the good revolver so no

[nocturne dust]

Sir, this is the psyker class

We don't aim here

https://tenor.com/view/star-trek-star-trek-tos-apollo-zap-shock-gif-18131306

[celest valve]

what non precision melee weapons does psyker have

[nocturne dust]

Melee? That thing you pull out to run faster so you can position for more staffing around?

[celest valve]

also outside of... ok fine three of the staves and two of the blitzes don't need aim.

[blissful solar]

honestly wish you could zoom in/ads with staffs. could be useful

[nocturne dust]

All blitzes don't need aim

[celest valve]

assail does you just probably don't even notice you're aiming it

[nocturne dust]

Assail does on technicality but not practicality

Assail does assail things whether you aim it or not

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[celest valve]

try using left click without looking at enemy heads :p

[nocturne dust]

Try not looking at enemies in auric

[celest valve]

exactly

you don't even notice you're aiming

[nocturne dust]

Find the floor minigame

[nocturne dust]

but you're not aiming

[celest valve]

look just because you can aim after you fire doesn't mean it's not aiming

[nocturne dust]

It hits things near your cursor, sure, but so does EK and BB. It really isn't anywhere near aiming.

Like saying you aim with Inferno

[celest valve]

that's one of the staves you don't aim with

am counting voidstrike as aim however

[nocturne dust]

You don't aim any staff except Voidstrike

[celest valve]

(...that's the one staff that needs it lol)

[nocturne dust]

And even then

Voidstrike doesn't need it

As a voidstrike lover, I would know

[celest valve]

It does, you just get revolver level autoaim :p

[nocturne dust]

Slap on Scrier's and pop bodyshots like it's going out of style

[nocturne dust]

So... it doesn't need it

[celest valve]

also really a lot of precision damage is just proper cursor elevation control

[nocturne dust]

True

You would certainly perform better with proper headhitting on Voidstrike

[celest valve]

the spreadshot shotgun heavily relies on "precision damage" to headshot an entire horde

[ornate abyss]

Looking for a psyker gun build

[celest valve]

spreadshot shotgun, load special shell, click into a horde, laugh as everyone's head explodes

[nocturne dust]

Typical gunker is vraks infantry autogun

[celest valve]

Use double wall shield and brain blast for specials and ranged, while spreadshot shotgun CCs when it doesn't kill. Disrupt destiny.

[nocturne dust]

with scri-

[nocturne dust]

Wtf

[celest valve]

aura to taste but probably cooldown for this one

[nocturne dust]

Double wall rec?

[celest valve]

For brain blast? Yes.

[nocturne dust]

BB on gunker???

[celest valve]

Yes.

[nocturne dust]

No

Ew

No

Gunker is Assailker is Meleeker

[celest valve]

Have you tried the spreadshot shotgun?

[nocturne dust]

Have you tried any meta build

[ornate abyss]

was thinking of using shredder since it is the last gun I need mastery

[nocturne dust]

Autoshredder sucks

[ornate abyss]

oh

[celest valve]

is that the auto pistol uh

[nocturne dust]

It is possibly the worst gun in the game currently

[pine relic]

Every time I switch to psyker, the game matches me with another three or two psykers.

They need to fix this shit

[nocturne dust]

I see no issue

[celest valve]

dueling sword, auto pistol, scriers gaze, iunno go smite for lulz and disrupt destiny

[nocturne dust]

[mental rock]

ok, all psykers instead

[nocturne dust]

[mental rock]

and they are all smite spammers

[nocturne dust]

More for me

[pine relic]

There have been at least three games that a single chaos spawn just wiped the team.

[nocturne dust]

Bring gunker

Or Inferno staff

Or EK Staff

Solo the boss

[pine relic]

nah, that map, there is nothing you can do really

[celest valve]

assail with auto pistol seems unnecessary just spam auto pistol into a horde instead. Smite gives CC to tap a rager swarm with followed by auto pistol vaporization.

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

[celest valve]

Dueling sword is for cool fancy anti carapace.

[pine relic]

it just push you to the corner since psyker can't stagger monstrosities nor has the damage to burst them down.

[nocturne dust]

If I can do a 4-psyker twins secret mode run, you can always do something no matter how many psykers.

[celest valve]

maybe single target force sword instead but dueling sword just smoother

[nocturne dust]

Block and dodge out

[upper sun]

ds4 or a chain weapon

[nocturne dust]

You don't need to stagger nor burst them down

[celest valve]

shock maul with heavy attack smite maybe

[nocturne dust]

no

Charged Strike is bad

[upper sun]

tho having a team comp is still easier than all psykers

[nocturne dust]

Like real bad

[celest valve]

ur bad

[nocturne dust]

Don't use

It is wasted talent point in every situation

[celest valve]

also I need to test if it scales with charge time like the code says

not sure because the melee strike is disconnected but

[nocturne dust]

yes

[pine relic]

I can't, the chaos spawn just kept pushing us, it was a small tunnel

[nocturne dust]

Buuuuutt you can still succeed

[nocturne dust]

Move out of the tunnel

🤷‍♂️

[pine relic]

sure, I believe I can fly as well

[nocturne dust]

Like, I've literally managed my way out of a mixed horde cluster of crushers and a boss at the same time

You can do a stupid amount of things with KD

so bring that, block, and dodge and push until you have space

E z recipe

Also don't be afraid of getting closer to the enemy to move past them

[nocturne dust]

Just be cognizant of their attacks and any overheads coming at you and you'll be fine

[celest valve]

I wonder if two handed great swords will have kinetic deflect.

[nocturne dust]

You mean deflector

?

[nocturne dust]

Honestly deflector and KD should just be Psyker class attributes

[celest valve]

I would not say no to becoming a force Jedi.

[plucky flax]

I just played voidstrike and the team were good so my balls didn't hit anything.

[celest valve]

the squishables call me for sleep again

[marble crater]

I play Darktide and Jedi Survivor at the same time to be one, it's close enough

[celest valve]

[nocturne dust]

Don't worry, I've run an EK game where I got preempted by 3 bolter vets

[celest valve]

man the talk of great sword makes me want to play that again because the two handed lightsaber mode is super fun

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[plucky flax]

Recon mk12 psyker, revolver zealot and bolter vet.

[mental rock]

I miss when deflector worked while reviving

[celest valve]

does that count as edging

[plucky flax]

Ended up just playing assails instead of voidstrike.

[nocturne dust]

It should still 😭

[nocturne dust]

b-but.... funny balls

😭

[summer prairie]

at least you can switch to lmb void

[nocturne dust]

ew

no

[indigo plank]

This is maddening

[nocturne dust]

cursed

[plucky flax]

It was VEG so 12 assails were kind of gud.

[indigo plank]

https://tenor.com/view/invader-zim-gir-gif-27116237

[plucky flax]

[celest valve]

you can pretend it does with smyker. Right click, release left click after all the ranged attackers get connected, immediately revive.

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike gaming but i use assails 90% of the time.

[ornate abyss]

420 is max on curio?

[celest valve]

or just drop a shield lol

[nocturne dust]

Me still not having a full health curio after months

[indigo plank]

I just got a full health curio

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[indigo plank]

But stuck at 16% toughness lmao

[nocturne dust]

dang

[nocturne dust]

Dang, can we switch

I got tons of those

[indigo plank]

Could keep melk gambling but like

[ornate abyss]

my ogryn has 3x 17% toughness : )

[indigo plank]

Dunno if I wanna spend more good boy points on curios

[plucky flax]

20m59s 12VEG game pretty good for randoms pub.

[celest valve]

health ain't important outside of checkpoints fight me

[mental rock]

took like 5k melks for me to get 2x 17%s

[indigo plank]

I have like six +3 staminas each for my psyker and ogryn lmao

[nocturne dust]

Well.... yes

[celest valve]

get 201 health then snooze on health

[summer prairie]

i've 20x 21% and 28x 17% (don't ask why)

[nocturne dust]

I mean a bit more health is nice to have

so you can take chip

and still have the BP

[plucky flax]

251hp psyker

[celest valve]

your face takes chip

[indigo plank]

oof ouch

[nocturne dust]

No

I am untouchable

The penance says so

[ornate abyss]

I am cyber falchonion

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/invulnerable-dracula-graham-mctavish-castlevania-indestructible-gif-10189213848515819736

[plucky flax]

Also first game on big sword I am playing bistol.

[nocturne dust]

I respect your decision.

[celest valve]

honestly I fiddled with auto pistol a bit and. it seems ok

[plucky flax]

What the hell auto pistol? It's bistol.

[summer prairie]

every game on big sword with bistol

[plucky flax]

The big polt bistol.

[nocturne dust]

They are the same thing.

[celest valve]

it's a lil faster than auto guns if not by much and more mobile by like 0.2s

[nocturne dust]

They both shoot things

They both guns

They both reload

No difference

[celest valve]

also it's far better at killing maniacs

(and worse at everything else except suppression lol)

[summer prairie]

what's worse

[nocturne dust]

that doesn't sound right

[celest valve]

this incidentally also means that auto pistol is the best psyker gun for forcing enemies to attack you first :p

[nocturne dust]

Staff is better

You get infinite ammo

and only need 1 shot to aggro

[celest valve]

aggro doesn't matter. Suppression does.

They need to physically flinch at the sound of your gun.

[nocturne dust]

Staff lmb is mad suppression

Literally suppress the whole horde by shooting at the floor

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1310894228339167334/Fire_Elmo_V5.gif

[celest valve]

Aimed auto pistol just has unbeatable suppression really.

[nocturne dust]

Probably

but infinite ammo

[summer prairie]

they still haven't fixed void rmb having 0 suppression except for the blast

[celest valve]

it's basically infinite if you're not bad

[nocturne dust]

If you use it for aggro acquiring

[celest valve]

anyway auto pistol also has good mobility again

which is really it's main thing lol

[restive slate]

Anyone getting Back End errors?

[celest valve]

revolver for specials, auto pistol for suppression and maniacs

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/community-that-is-not-a-think-point-shake-finger-wave-finger-gif-5673627

[echo root]

Bleedthrough psyker

[radiant ice]

Anyone got a rough idea of a minimum toughness to aim for/some breakpoints? Juggling between health and toughness curios atm

[restive slate]

Buff?

[radiant ice]

Every time I drink too much caffeine

[echo root]

2x 17% toughness and 1x 3 stam

[celest valve]

auto pistol blessings are also different

[restive slate]

Taco Bell

[radiant ice]

I’m talking numbers

What toughness number is a breakpoint/goal

[nocturne dust]

Uuuuuuhhhhh 200 HP and max toughness

[celest valve]

good? Iunno lol. But they can get high strength without killing anything so?

[echo root]

Doesn't matter. Just do this.

[celest valve]

As high as possible.

[radiant ice]

Like 200hp I know is a solid HP breakpoint

[nocturne dust]

Generally the BP is for health and not toughness

[radiant ice]

😐

[nocturne dust]

ew

No, that's weird and bad

[celest valve]

There are breakpoints for toughness, but they're less important because every point of toughness is less melee bleed through.

[radiant ice]

I know how to build curios my dude, I’m just trying trying to theory craft some numbers xD

[nocturne dust]

sprint eff 🤮

[echo root]

Toughness only protects 100% against gas clouds / ranged dmg etc. You'll take health damage on the second melee hit no matter how high that number is

[radiant ice]

I know

[celest valve]

you, uh, want 201 health. Needs more health.

[echo root]

Silence american, you claim to know freedom yet deny my freedom curios.

[quartz barn]

Sprint can be useful when pinned down by gunners

[mental rock]

combat ability regen sucks I dont get why people do it

[nocturne dust]

You need to free those curios from their subperks, slaver

[celest valve]

Also stamina Regen is bad imo on psyker because they already have infinite stamina with their Regen delay.

[nocturne dust]

[quartz barn]

But otherwise just manage stam when running

[radiant ice]

Ah good to know, cheers. So aim for 200hp and then just pile toughness from there is the general aim?

[echo root]

Heresy

[celest valve]

201 but ya

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, that the thing for players around here.

[radiant ice]

Ahh cool, thanks

[echo root]

I'm not discussing good curio choices with someone who runs 3x toughness regen on curios

Especially knowing they only work on coherency based regen

[celest valve]

poxburster busting your health give 100 corruption in damnation off memory

[nocturne dust]

Those are unironically good though.

[radiant ice]

I’m also debating swapping a gunner resist

[nocturne dust]

You are just blinded by the truth.

[radiant ice]

Having 2 instead of 3 and grabbing sniper

[echo root]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-bizzare-adventure-rohan-kishibe-i-refuse-gif-26066583

[mental rock]

100 damage, corruption is based on how close you are to the center

[radiant ice]

But then again I haven’t been sniped in a long time

[celest valve]

on ogryn only

[nocturne dust]

No, Psyker too

Coherency regen isn't touched by ER

Now, in fairness

[celest valve]

bruh you have like so much toughness restoration that ER only puts you at the level of zealot and veteran

[nocturne dust]

It absolutely is a lower skill level pick. If you want to go soloing, yeah, don't take the thing that only works in coherency.

[radiant ice]

Any recommendations for the damage resist? Or do I drop it altogether and go 2 gunner res and a block efficiency?

[nocturne dust]

But for normal play it's fantastic.

[nocturne dust]

I do 1 sniper res and at least 2 gunner res.

[celest valve]

you like shoot someone once with a staff and restore like 50% toughness lol

[radiant ice]

That’s my original thought but I can’t remember the last time I was sniped

[nocturne dust]

Yes. And?

[echo root]

Gunner res is the best res out of them.

[nocturne dust]

[celest valve]

100% peril is 75% toughness, plus a massive chunk based off of crits, plus warp kills, plus like any of the three keystones?

[radiant ice]

Yeah, I know that’s why I’m keeping 2 of those xD

[nocturne dust]

The power in coherency regen is it's pumping all the time, including those times when you don't have a whole horde to feed toughness off of.

[echo root]

Sniper res if you're older than 35 and cannot slide with a 0.75s warning

[radiant ice]

Due to the multiplicative instead of addition though 3 gunner resis vs 2 don’t seem to a big change

[nocturne dust]

Sniper because it's a 3x bp at 200 hp with 1x res

[celest valve]

No it's not. It pumps whenever you don't have an enemy in a melee slot, plus several seconds after due to death anim.

[radiant ice]

Was actually thinking of bomber resist cause I’m tired of being blown up

[nocturne dust]

90% means way earlier than that, achtually

the seconds are reduced by the 90%

[echo root]

Honestly all the resistance curio blessings are skill issue blessings

[mental rock]

speaking of... does flamer res work on their backpack explosion? probably not because its like a copy of the barrel damage profile but worth a test

[nocturne dust]

and also literally just dodge backwards and it will start

and also also, you are psyker

[radiant ice]

Cause I’m so, so done of seeing a suicider running at me, lifting my sword in block to prepare to push and some dickhead in quickplay sniping it last second

[celest valve]

oh no it's slightly less than halved the delay which doesn't matter because death animation

[nocturne dust]

Death anim doesn't eat the slot like that

[summer prairie]

all toughness nodes, health and toughness nodes are all skill issues

i mean curios too

[celest valve]

oh uh that's 201 health point yeah

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Defense is a dump stat, it is known

[echo root]

Yet you run 3x Toughness regen AND 3x Sniper res

[celest valve]

the only offensive stat really for curios is what combat ability Regen? pick two more lool

[nocturne dust]

bomber resist doesn't resist poxburster

[echo root]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209001993318703104/1309656194419392683/SPOILER_caption.gif

[radiant ice]

Ah fuck

[nocturne dust]

I don't actually run that tho 😭

[radiant ice]

Corruption resist?

[nocturne dust]

I mean I do sometimes

[radiant ice]

Does that? XD

[nocturne dust]

but I am an unhinged savage

[celest valve]

anyway pls don't run toughness Regen on literally like the highest toughness regenerating character in the game even with ER :c

[echo root]

It used to be good on release when gas bombs would corrupt through your shield, kinda useless now.

[nocturne dust]

xp, dockets

[celest valve]

one of those is bad and you know it.

[echo root]

Stam regen so you can run into the fray faster

[nocturne dust]

Neither is bad.

Both good, help Imperium economy.

[celest valve]

[nocturne dust]

[celest valve]

Eh stamina is defense.

[chilly breach]

what kind of armor do the twins in the special mission have?

[nocturne dust]

That's not how that works

[celest valve]

You can run into the fray better cause defense.

[nocturne dust]

Just sprint slide

[zinc phoenix]

I run 3x combat ability, 3x toughness and 1 each of flamer, gunner, sniper

[echo root]

75% chad energy

[celest valve]

also sprint efficiency is decent for that sure you can sprint slide but lazy

[zinc phoenix]

I do run toughness regen on ER builds because otherwise I fucking die

[celest valve]

my usual is toughness, health, and probably combat ability Regen on psyker

[echo root]

I only run one for clutching, it buys like 3s extra sprint from full each.

[nocturne dust]

[celest valve]

or block efficiency for funny kinetic deflector memes

[radiant ice]

Hrmmm tough decisions

[nocturne dust]

CDR on curios is super meh tho

[zinc phoenix]

I have a +3 stam with block efficiency for that 😂

[echo root]

Silence heretic, it's a guaranteed 3s off Venting Shriek

Considering you vent on CD

[nocturne dust]

If you don't want to just max dps as much as possible, don't take it. It's not a lot of time off cooldown

[mental rock]

CDR curios bad

and you should feel bad

[radiant ice]

I don't know, I like it on my electro staff build. 22% cdr with the aura is nice

[nocturne dust]

Oh noooooo my 3 seconds

[zinc phoenix]

The way I see it is if there was a 12% CDR node I would absolutely take it so taking it on a curio also makes sense

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[celest valve]

curios bad, your point

[nocturne dust]

You have 30 talent points

You don't have 30 curio subperks

[mental rock]

yes real players use no curios

[zinc phoenix]

Sure but I don’t really value 90% of curio options anyway

The only thing I don’t have is bomber and I do want that

[nocturne dust]

Again, if you aren't in maxing your dps

[dusk stump]

Real players BEAT heretics to DEATH with their FAITH ALONE

[nocturne dust]

For a purely effectiveness standpoint, CDR on curios is a lot worse than the defensive perks

[celest valve]

there's probs something to be said for corruption resistance too especially randoms who pick up a single grimoire and can't find the second

[zinc phoenix]

I guess my POV is that with psyker you aren’t gonna die to the usual stuff because your key defensive tools are:

• merking everything before it comes near you
• dodging

[celest valve]

looking at you all of you are guilty of this I know you are

[mental rock]

wow, its fucking nothing

[zinc phoenix]

Honestly I should swap out gunner for bomber and just run deflector on the staff side

[echo root]

AFAIK the corruption resistance does not work, you need the grim specific ones.

[nocturne dust]

wooooooaaaaahhhh 6 more shrieks, assuming no idling ever! So coooooool

[celest valve]

it should just not as effective(by like 5%)

[zinc phoenix]

But yeah mostly when I die it’s net got me, dog got me, silent overhead or pox burster yeeting me off a ledge

[celest valve]

yeah that's skill issue

[zinc phoenix]

None of the curios do much for any of that

[radiant ice]

Curio perk for no poxburster damage when?

[dusk stump]

Just get trapper and dog resist

[celest valve]

I mean veteran alone can tank the crusher overhead but lol

[dusk stump]

Ez

[echo root]

It's 7 if we're using the correct number, 26,4 instead of 27

[zinc phoenix]

Precisely, it’s all stuff that I can avoid with skill and most of the time I do. So I may as well burn the remaining slots on CDR for slightly more frequent gaze/shriek

[nocturne dust]

I mean I would say just experiment and see how it goes. You may be surprised how things shift once you get used to different perks.

[echo root]

Meanwhile your toughness coherency regen does fuckall

[nocturne dust]

Other than keeping me alive and not downed

[celest valve]

well, stamina Regen might help there cause more block juice but psyker already has infinite push block

[nocturne dust]

Can't do dps if dead

[echo root]

I bet the extra toughness you get from that each match is less than 100

[nocturne dust]

Not a chance

[zinc phoenix]

Same with dodge. If I really wanted to go ape on dodge I wouldn’t bother with curio I’d go to ds

[nocturne dust]

You would be very wrong there

[echo root]

If you just channel purgatus you're full toughness either way

[celest valve]

look toughness Regen is only good on ogryn but I won't complain if you get it on not psyker

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t really value toughness regen on non ER builds. Its impressive but I don’t get hit enough for it to matter

[nocturne dust]

Unless there's nothing in range... except you, downwind from a bunch of gunners in an open field

[echo root]

If you just dropped KD and used the point on Essence harvest you'd gain more toughness too.

[celest valve]

I suppose if you use ER it's... as bad as it is on zealot/veteran. So.

[nocturne dust]

But I'd lose more toughness by not having KD, so wrong

[chilly breach]

Can a Psyker somehow carry the boss fight in the current special mission?

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

This isn't correct

[celest valve]

the plasma shot is a health tank so probably not it does 40x damage to toughness

[zinc phoenix]

Technically you could eke out a kill but pretty much every other class has better boss damage

[nocturne dust]

and also wdym if you use ER?

You a dirty non-user?

[celest valve]

ok baddie who can't do literally anything at all as psyker to regenerate their entire toughness bar

[nocturne dust]

YES

[celest valve]

also why would I want to take a perk with two negatives?

[nocturne dust]

It's why I don't get hit ever

Because if I do, I instantly die

[zinc phoenix]

I found with ER I could max out peril, quell it down and get like nothing for toughness 😂

[nocturne dust]

[celest valve]

hell give me increased peril generation where's that in the tree

[nocturne dust]

Oh lawd

Braindead

Sad

[celest valve]

i want a node that makes minimum peril 80%

or even better 86%

[dusk stump]

It’s just called madness

[celest valve]

it was a huge nerf to psyker when quelling speed was massively increased while idle.

[nocturne dust]

I would like to see you play auric.

I really would.

Is this what one of thos pubbers is like?

[celest valve]

look is it wrong I want permanent 20% damage, 100% cleave, 33% toughness damage reduction

is that so wrong

[nocturne dust]

Aight, I'm sorry for being uppity but look, I've been through this song and dance before with plenty of noobs. I just don't have it in me to do it again.

[dusk stump]

Yes, it’s not the way he thinks is right, so it’s wrong

[weary crane]

https://youtu.be/hHA4BF99qzM?si=ODMNgN68ON89WF5v

He wasn't q tapping the heavy deimos attacks

[nocturne dust]

No, and lucky for Psyker ER doesn't prevent that

If it did it would be bad. Fortunately, it does not do that, and you can still edge with it anyway.

[celest valve]

good then don't C:

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-already-way-too-late-tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-it's-far-too-late-now-it's-already-far-too-late-gif-4943774439878014374

[celest valve]

yeah ok I can just illisi spam but also sometimes I want cool psyker stuff without needing a million APM lol

...and only scriers gaze does that and it has limited uptime.

[weary crane]

I was just messing because of the point of the video

[nocturne dust]

Stop Optimizing Fun

Optimization is my fun

😭

But optimization in only ways I deem fun

get that lmb spam outta here

[weary crane]

To an extent

[celest valve]

but recon lasguns are fun

[weary crane]

I tried quell cancelling with purga for the first time and it's just too much

[nocturne dust]

That's not lmb spam

Only staff lmb is lmb spam

Recon is lmb hold

[celest valve]

yeah you can just mod that :p

into lmb hold

[plucky flax]

Man just had a nurgle blessed game with 2 smiters. It was so bad.

[weary crane]

[plucky flax]

When they smite but the green bois keep coming.

[nocturne dust]

I don't bother quell cancelling either

I'm sane

[weary crane]

Smite works best on poxburster modifier

[nocturne dust]

Protect the smitekers

[weary crane]

Nothing counters the green mfs

[nocturne dust]

Be their beloved

[echo root]

Why do you use toughness regen if you never get hit???

[nocturne dust]

ACHSTUALLY

[celest valve]

honestly sometimes I smyker just because I want to play a walking simulator.

[nocturne dust]

impact blessings do

because you can stagger them with impact blessings

[weary crane]

Yeah but

Impact over damage

Nu uh

[celest valve]

next you'll say people use the shock maul lol

[weary crane]

I have the pushback blessing on ogryn, that works sometimes

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-mystery-velma-scooby-doo-velma-scooby-doo-scooby-doo-and-the-witchs-ghost-gif-23861772

[celest valve]

to be fair strength is both and also cleave

[weary crane]

But when I see 100 green ragers that start swinging from 20 metres away

[nocturne dust]

I mean

[celest valve]

cause bad :p

[nocturne dust]

At least it gives something to impact blessings

They have nothing

😭

[celest valve]

I mean tbf if they use ER always Ill judge them same as zealots and veterans aka not really at all.

probs about as good as sprint efficiency then lol

[nocturne dust]

I can't be bad because I said my way was the right way to play. Ergo, I am right because I said so. So you're wrong. So there.

[celest valve]

[nocturne dust]

I mean ER is a dps boost on every staff

Even purg

It's just a pain with purg

[celest valve]

smh staff

[nocturne dust]

because then you have to actually manage peril fo-

[celest valve]

gunker go brrrr

[nocturne dust]

Only way to play space wizard, heretic

https://tenor.com/view/i-cast-manual-breathing-wizard-gif-5578822657057637630

[weary crane]

I hope this new plasma blade thingy has rendering

[celest valve]

can't wait for energy wave

gonna test it with heavy smite

[weary crane]

Mfs will find a way to spam the special

[radiant ice]

Thoughts on this? Have I made any big mistakes?https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d98e077-c85f-4674-a857-be7340f3fe18/creeping-electro-flames?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[weary crane]

Good idea

[radiant ice]

I sometimes swap the Toughness at the bottom for either Kinetic Deflection or Kinetic Flayer, I should add

[celest valve]

Really? Right in front of my recon lasgun?

[nocturne dust]

No huge mistakes. Some weird choices.

[radiant ice]

And of course I have my meme sword on

[radiant ice]

Oh how so?

[nocturne dust]

I would drop purple node for toughness for Kinetic Deflection

[radiant ice]

I did have that originally but the constant toughness regen saved me many times

Cause I'm constantly gaining and spending warp charges

[autumn lark]

Hopefully it counts as ranged

[nocturne dust]

and the +15 toughness node for kinetic flayer

[celest valve]

probably won't sorry, melee likely and warp attack

[radiant ice]

I think those changes are likely when I'm a better player, yeah XD

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[autumn lark]

I wanna abuse true aim and malefic momentum on it

[nocturne dust]

Up to you

KD is just such a ridiculously useful tool for clutching it's not funny

[radiant ice]

But I am glad that I have no glaring mistakes other than the two debates I already was having, thank you for checking!

Gonna become your apprentice at this rate

Do Psykers work like Sith? Do I kill you one day when I'm more powerful?

[nocturne dust]

I'm already dead

[radiant ice]

Woo

[nocturne dust]

It's in the name

I guess that makes you the master

[celest valve]

KD is hilarious for daemon hosts

[radiant ice]

Honestly though I'm finding Essence Harvest insanely useful at my skill level

[autumn lark]

Put health instead of ability cooldown amd swap empyric resolve with penentration of the soul

[radiant ice]

And KD not too necessary cause with my meme sword that gives me tons of block time

[nocturne dust]

That's fair, it's not bad to build for your skill if you're comfortable with it.

[autumn lark]

The toughness debuff is not worth it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-sleep-you-are-dreaming-wide-awake-insomnia-gif-12968929

[radiant ice]

I had considered that, but damn the Electro staff builds peril so fast

[celest valve]

Also I guess a big part of kinetic deflection is just getting warp.

[autumn lark]

I know

[radiant ice]

At the moment I consistently get my vent back at 90% to 95% peril without any quelling

[celest valve]

Because peril isn't a debuff. It's a buff.

[nocturne dust]

I really wouldn't do that on EK

Empyric Resolve is good on every staff, but especially EK

[radiant ice]

So it's 90% to 95%, Vent on CD, back to 90%, vent, back to 90%, vent etc.

Constant loop with no quell needed

[autumn lark]

Also you have one with the warp which doesnt synergyze well with resolve

[celest valve]

(srsly tho I would love a node locking me at 86% especially if it also has buffs)

[nocturne dust]

Yes it does

You can edge with ER

[radiant ice]

I mean the 10% level kicks in instantly pretty much

[nocturne dust]

why is this a concern

[radiant ice]

And as said, I am pretty much always sitting around 90% anyway

[autumn lark]

Im not reading that essay

[radiant ice]

Other than the brief few seconds after I vent

[nocturne dust]

wat essay

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/me-when-i-sit-on-the-chair-that-makes-me-yap-yakuza-gaiden-like-a-dragon-pirate-yakuza-in-hawaii-hawaii-yakuza-hawai-majima-gif-1875002789278146677

3 words is too long for me

[celest valve]

someone send me more squishables through the warp i need more plushies for sleeb

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/luther-dog-squish-squishy-slime-gif-9192176533699164140

[broken carbon]

you are stupid

[radiant ice]

Oh other point, if I drop One With the Warp I'd have to get the peril resist node and Unlucky For Some anyway

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/wesker-albert-albert-wesker-resident-evil-resident-evil-4-gif-5143688443782660001

[radiant ice]

It's not even a debate on dropping it actually XD

[autumn lark]

Love you cyn <3

[radiant ice]

Cause Unlucky For Some is the worst node I've ever seen XD

[broken carbon]

mwah

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/were-going-to-perish-in-this-godless-land-bill-hader-saturday-night-live-snl-perish-gif-18018833

One day I will sleep

but it is not this day

or is it

https://tenor.com/view/help-me-sleep-deprived-coffee-good-morning-smiling-gif-12372184

[echo root]

https://tenor.com/view/sleep-pillow-doge-cheems-celestev69-gif-24103974

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/akane-yamada-kun-runa-strangle-shush-gif-13814432729646579497

[potent echo]

no FGS yet

why die

[radiant frigate]

scarier than 80 crushers

[radiant frigate]

imagine dying now when it's only 5 days until force greatsword siblings can you believe it!!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[nocturne dust]

Cancer? Bubonic Plague? War? Famine? Angry Neighbor? I can think if a lot of reasons.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/day-5-nnn-day-5-nnn-gif-12295075314634785529

[autumn lark]

Close enough welcome back moonlight greatsword

https://tenor.com/view/ludwig-holy-blade-bloodborne-ludwig-gif-26860477

[nocturne dust]

Moonlight greatsword is actually just a copy of Force Greatsword

I know because my dad works at FromFatSoftwareShark

[spice flame]

I want to play bloodborne again, for the 4th time

[radiant frigate]

time to naysay, we may actually be closer to this one

[nocturne dust]

idk wat that is

[radiant frigate]

greatsword of judgement

[nocturne dust]

Sounds zealoty

[radiant frigate]

it is much the same in spirit

but it does not have the chonky teal blade typical of a moonlight greatsword

(neither do we)

[autumn lark]

Close enough

Welcome back crescent moon sword

[radiant frigate]

but perhaps we are in holy moonlight sword territory

which by default also does not have the chonky moonlight blade

only when empowered

[nocturne dust]

I hope the marks have a little more going on than just different movesets

[potent echo]

now, add washing pole to darktide

[celest valve]

dueling sword

[potent echo]

Longer 😭

[autumn lark]

Zweihander

[celest valve]

that's what she said

[celest valve]

Eviscerator :v

[autumn lark]

https://tenor.com/view/sleeping-sleep-dog-dawg-eeper-gif-5083970977419902566

[celest valve]

am I wrong tho

[autumn lark]

Well kinda

[celest valve]

it's got a satisfying sound when you swing it and it swings slow and heavy boom

[autumn lark]

It has a cleave cap on mk15

[celest valve]

your face has a cleave cap

[patent mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/721520171365171284/1311019478313861191/caption.gif

[spice flame]

yooooooooooooooooo

[jovial juniper]

Oooh
Great Sword Cult

[celest valve]

swoosh

[jovial juniper]

We have the GSC on Darktide already

🗣️

[celest valve]

Heavy sword?

[jovial juniper]

Great Sword Cult

As opposed to gene stealer cult

[potent echo]

Great space chaos

[upper sun]

400 more rows on excel (due on monday)

[celest valve]

Good Space Cookies

Great Scott, Charlie

[radiant frigate]

siblings i am mildly upset

ASS failed at 4/5 because of the warp unbound bug

[upper sun]

why would you try to do ASS ethically?

[spice flame]

[upper sun]

my 4/5 ass run i... did the unthinkable

i ran a wound curio...........

[celest valve]

sounds like ASS

[spice flame]

passes out

[celest valve]

can ASS be ethical

[upper sun]

yes

[celest valve]

is there ethical ASS in darktide

[spice flame]

My ass is 100% ethical

[upper sun]

close your eyes when playing a maelstrom

[spice flame]

ah; in DT you meant

[upper sun]

mine wasnt super ethical because i counter picked every maelstrom

[celest valve]

did I mean in darktide I'm just talking about ethical ass

no ethical ass under capitalism sorry

[upper sun]

also @radiant frigate its unironically harder in US than EU

[spice flame]

[upper sun]

dont sweat it

[celest valve]

[upper sun]

i wanna see fatshark post win/loss stats based on regions

[nocturne dust]

is it?

[spice flame]

Genuine guestion : Why

[nocturne dust]

[blissful solar]

Americans too busy eating mcdonalds

[upper sun]

US players are more casual

[nocturne dust]

Nah

[upper sun]

its dark and rainy in europe

[spice flame]

Uh

Hmm

[spice veldt]

no US players are just bad

[upper sun]

theres only video games to get mad about

[celest valve]

it's true, the UK is the dark souls of europe

[nocturne dust]

It's just that most of the good players are on normal aurics and not maelstrom imo, at least on US West

[upper sun]

no arco were nice posting today

[nocturne dust]

😭

[blissful solar]

I think something like Ukraine is the current dark souls of Europe

[spice veldt]

eh it's the truth

[upper sun]

theyre "casual"

[nocturne dust]

fug u too, I'm taking that personally

[spice veldt]

john american

[nocturne dust]

You'll have my response in 3-5 Fatshark days

[celest valve]

eastern Europe isnt Europe sorry

[blissful solar]

oh shit so true

[celest valve]

it's... eastern Europe.

[spice flame]

wat

[upper sun]

my roommate is currently screaming at fortnite rn

nothing casual about it 🫡

[haughty star]

Ill take bad at video games and gun fanatical over borderline socialism and inbred genetics any day

[blissful solar]

yknow if you think about it the UK isn't even in Europe it's an island

[haughty star]

[upper sun]

(hes 22)

[radiant frigate]

is it ethical if i just hop into easy maelstroms when i see them

[blissful solar]

you when you hear about Alabama:

[spice flame]

(he's baby)

[radiant frigate]

like specialists/dogtide

[spice flame]

I 100% did that

[nocturne dust]

.....

Hey, EU

[spice flame]

Yea ?

[nocturne dust]

Can I join u guys pretty plz

[spice flame]

No

[nocturne dust]

😭

[blissful solar]

borderline socialism does seem kinda based...

[radiant frigate]

US propaganda is going strong i see

[nocturne dust]

The inbreeding doesn't matter to me because I'm not from there

[spice flame]

[upper sun]

no but do it anyways. i did thammer into monsters, bubble into ranged and rashad marty for the rest

[patent mango]

cant you just wait for train

[radiant frigate]

also my reaction time is not fast enough to quit out between getting yoinekd by a trapper and getting beaten to death

[patent mango]

idk if that still exists for mael

[nocturne dust]

I mean look at who got elected as president.... again.

[blissful solar]

you must bind caps lock to the reconnect mod

[haughty star]

UK players hold the L. Must suck being on a shitty rainy overcrowded island that isn't commonly known as the greatest country on the planet

[radiant frigate]

this is the preferable option

[nocturne dust]

😭

[upper sun]

oh no i never did that i just counter picked the maelstrom so hard it became a joke

we had 5 bubbles going on during a chaos spawn

5x the toughness regen bonus

we just tanked it

also idk if they fixed this yet but if you are the last person to go down when everyone else is dead it doesnt count sometimes

[nocturne dust]

I would rather a rock.

[upper sun]

the mission can go to the fail screen before you die

[radiant frigate]

i'm sure it can

[patent mango]

markplier for president

[radiant frigate]

unfortunately i was wounded from WU bug

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/it-cant-get-any-worse-so-why-not-abby-elliott-rebecca-indebted-cant-get-any-better-gif-16595516

I say we just elect president via lottery

[fiery stratus]

jake paul for president

[fiery stratus]

government mandated prime for all

[near gale]

@upper sun Look, Clad, ur famous!

[upper sun]

?????(capital letter question marks)

[blissful solar]

‽

[spice flame]

‽eanuts

[celest valve]

look clad is a goddamn southern no spice turkey and mashed potatoes meal next to the ghost pepper politics nearby lol

[nocturne dust]

❓

[spice veldt]

🅱️ eanuts

[patent mango]

im playing chivalry 2 while waiting for update lol

just bought it

[blissful solar]

that shit didn't look anything like a p until you said this and now my mind is seeing p

[celest valve]

i say three hours before KFC

[upper sun]

not exactly but i do like spicy food

[spice flame]

I'm the master of p

[fiery stratus]

chiv would be interesting if it wasnt sweaty pvp imo

[nocturne dust]

wat politics

[spice flame]

Mmhh

[nocturne dust]

No politics here

[fiery stratus]

if it had a good pve loop of sorts id probably play it

[near gale]

Not capital enough

[nocturne dust]

safe space

Politics free

By force

[patent mango]

greatsword

[nocturne dust]

[spice flame]

5 days

[celest valve]

you threw one of the grenades :p

[radiant frigate]

DarkPillWarrior is a meme account

[nocturne dust]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[celest valve]

Only two days to.play with it before poe 2 :c

[nocturne dust]

Me? Innocent me?

[patent mango]

isnt poe 2 paid still

[nocturne dust]

Throw a grenade? Never. I'm a Psyker, I don't have those.

[patent mango]

lemme replace my blitz with ogryn nuke

[spice flame]

early access of poe 2 is pay to play IIRC

Not that I care about Poe

[plucky flax]

I'll carry you with smite spam.

[nocturne dust]

me replacing blitz with flame nades on inferno build

[celest valve]

I unironically want a way to turn brain blast into an AOE targeting bonanza.

We can call it

[patent mango]

poe 2 looks fun it has wasd movement

[celest valve]

Brain Storm

[nocturne dust]

inb4 green bois

[patent mango]

gimme warp grenades from rogue trader

[celest valve]

Imagine seeing 20 glowing heads all at once as an entire horde clutches their head.

[patent mango]

yea

[spice veldt]

add 15 upgrade nodes to brain burst and that'll be the 16th node at the end of the chain

[patent mango]

poe 1 didnt have wasd gaming

i don like mouse movement much

[nocturne dust]

BB good again?

[fiery stratus]

this game should get a new character thats like a necromunda cross over, same kinda of idea with the hive shit

[nocturne dust]

I would prefer they develop what we have

[plucky flax]

And die to green ragers

[patent mango]

replace unlucky for some with instead of getting downed you start to peril (maybe with a cd)

then you get crystalline will with that

lmao

then wound psyker would be real!!!!!!

[spice flame]

God I love that picture you took

Art

[blissful solar]

if the cult just made everyone train to be ragers, snipers, and bombers the rejects would be done for

[nocturne dust]

Danke, took me like 30 minutes to get a good one, lmao

[spice flame]

yeah I know haha

And praised you should be

[young summit]

55 tox bombers
55 scab bombers
55 tox flamers
100 scab flamers

We'd be in ruins

[patent mango]

daemonhost in train

[upper sun]

carapace dhs

green carapace dhs

[nocturne dust]

Daemonhost in every cab in train

[patent mango]

carapace armor beast of nurgle

[upper sun]

moving dhs

[patent mango]

scout from gtfo

[nocturne dust]

lmao, it's on like a lil trolley

[young summit]

A cult member carrying a DHs chain like a balloon

[patent mango]

chaos ps yker with smite build

[spice flame]

Y'all saying shit that could happen in havoc

[young summit]

Honestly BB would be pretty scary for enemies to have

1/2 second of being in sight and nothing can save you

[celest valve]

three seconds but

[nocturne dust]

40th level of havoc it starts spawning awake daemonhosts for hordes

[celest valve]

oh technically yeah they just have to see you from cover for a split second

[young summit]

Well, no. Because once they're locked onto you running into cover doesn't help

Yes

[patent mango]

level 40 havoc duelling sword gets removed

[spice flame]

YES

[nocturne dust]

level 40 havoc you have to play pacifist. No damage.

[young summit]

Shredder autopistol only

No melee weapon

No ammo pick-ups

[quartz barn]

Permanent pox gas

[spice flame]

f that noise

[nocturne dust]

Every enemy is green-blessed

[patent mango]

level 40 havoc no more classes u play as fodder guardsman from every trailer

[quartz barn]

Every enemy explodes in a gas cloud like the rat bomber

[young summit]

I do like the idea of a medicae famine, in all seriousness

[nocturne dust]

no talent tree

[young summit]

Maybe you get one functioning station, but it has to be powered up

[spice flame]

lvl 40 your game uninstall itself

donzo

[patent mango]

level 40 is dclaw only but no parry

[nocturne dust]

You get all stations, but each station has to be powered for 1 charge

[quartz barn]

Constantly take low chip dmg, damages toughness first

[young summit]

That's not bad as well

[quartz barn]

But you get sedition enemy density

[young summit]

I want a mission with an object that has to be carried for the whole mission

Just really make it pain

[patent mango]

level 40 is a raid type mission with 8 players

[nocturne dust]

no

[quartz barn]

This is just gtfo

[spice flame]

[young summit]

[nocturne dust]

I don't want any more missions where one player gets to not play the game

[spice flame]

Damn I would love a raid type mission

[nocturne dust]

Train is bad enough

[quartz barn]

I can see an endless hordes mode tho

[spice flame]

I want a mission with heavy mechanics

[quartz barn]

Basically hm twins on launch

But more on the mechanic side

But uh

Dt playerbase would crumble under a memory mechanic lmao

[pine relic]

Does smite have a cap?

[patent mango]

limited hordes mode

only 10 poxwalkers

[nocturne dust]

It has a range cap

[nocturne dust]

no

😔

[pine relic]

I can already tell it's gonna be great in Havoc.

[nocturne dust]

I dislike fights where you have to learn a bunch of unique mechanics just for that fight.

[quartz barn]

Nurgles blessing my beloved

[pine relic]

Zealots's relic will also be much more important.

[nocturne dust]

Stagger immunity incoming

[patent mango]

smite players instantly explode

[pine relic]

Someone told me Havoc just put all the conditions together.

Plus some debuff

I mean, with that kind of enemy density, it would be braindead if they add stagger immunity.

[nocturne dust]

realistic but only a beta tester would know

[blissful solar]

I wish they showed us how a havoc level 5 (or anything >1) shows up. like what is it. what does it say, etc

[calm sapphire]

Raid 40 would be like.... have modified maps with barrels at griefable spots, 1 medicae station, no stims, +100% ultimate cool down, karnak twins shenanigans, more DH spawns, Lights out, and no ammo pickups

[celest valve]

you say that like we don't already explode

[autumn lark]

Every 5 havoc tiers a new modifier is introduced

So 8 modifiers 2 mutators and 40 debuffs at havoc 40

Mutator is infested moebians or the moebian 21st event

[patent mango]

at havoc level 41 nurgle spawns

[nocturne dust]

Psyker gaming

[pine relic]

I'm still waiting for the plague bearer

Always think they should be in the game.

[patent mango]

they're kinda lame looking

[fiery stratus]

wheres the monstrosity that throws poxwalkers at us

[blissful solar]

I wish monstrous specialists had it so that the specialist has to already spawn and then manually transform whilst on the field.

so maybe you could stop its transformation but to keep it hard they could increase the chance they become monstrosity

[pine relic]

Looks pretty dope to me.

[haughty star]

Yo wth so i might be the most behind person here but new force sword is ranged?

[calm sapphire]

It'd be funny if FS made a modifer solely to make every psykers life hell

[haughty star]

@nocturne dust maybe your dreams of a real meleeker could be realized provided the ranged attack isn't as much of a joke as charged strike

[patent mango]

melee psyker will be real!

[mossy oyster]

That’s called stagger resistance I.e burgles blessing

can’t trauma knockdown or stagger a greeny boy

[jovial juniper]

We're about to see psykers shooting more lasers than DRGs Omen

[mossy oyster]

though if you use EK macro, burgle blessing doesn’t matter

cause aids

[patent mango]

i usually just stab them

[mossy oyster]

same

[calm sapphire]

Yes but it affects everyone

Like the no ammo pickups modifier literally favors psyker play so why not include one that target psykers only

[upper sun]

yeah but surge still doesnt do much m1 unyielding or carapace damage

[mossy oyster]

200% peril generation

2 assail shards is 100 peril

[nocturne dust]

Maybe. Would be neat. Lotta variables, can only wait and see.

[patent mango]

i still want to have 1 massive assail shard instead of 10 tiny ones

[frail harness]

The no ammo modifier should also include extra peril buildup tbh

[mossy oyster]

someone cooking for once

[calm sapphire]

Summons a DH upon death

[frail harness]

It should disincentivize staffs like it does guns

[mossy oyster]

interesting idea

[jovial juniper]

Finally
Warp Expenditure value

[patent mango]

psyker becomes unsanctioned like idira

[frail harness]

Oh. Oh no.

[mossy oyster]

perils of the warps before expenditure procs

[tawdry axle]

best tactical axe mark?

[mossy oyster]

expenditure then procs after going down

[frail harness]

I like IV

[mossy oyster]

like warp unbound procs after going down from the bug

salt to the wound

[tawdry axle]

good

[jovial juniper]

Nexus and Rider value

[frail harness]

True

I think the intent of the modifier is to incentivize melee combat, so whatever mechanic you can include for psykers to achieve that goal makes sense

[patent mango]

shredder autopistol only?

[mossy oyster]

you forget who makes this game

but more peril buildup in melee maelstroms sounds cool

[calm sapphire]

They should do the opposite and add a range only modifier

[fiery stratus]

be neat if there was a modifier to remove ranged enemies and your ranged weapons

[frail harness]

Isn't there a mostly ranged enemies modifier?

[fiery stratus]

for havoc?

there is for maelstrom

[frail harness]

Yeah maelstrom

[fiery stratus]

mostly melee too

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
Easy modifier

[obtuse pumice]

Higui found in Psyker chat

https://tenor.com/view/itsover-wojack-gif-4367840179675491690

[calm sapphire]

Poxwalkers modifier where it's an endless horde

[frail harness]

Yeah right now scab only you can't really remove them because bombers and other specialists still exist

[gloomy hornet]

mostly ranged enemies is a surprisingly easy modifier

[fiery stratus]

eh

[gloomy hornet]

maybe gunners really aint shit...

[fiery stratus]

those are consider specials though, im sure something could be tweaked

[obtuse pumice]

Maybe I'm shit

[fiery stratus]

no specials or ranged, just patrols of melees like mostly melee without any ranged weapons

slog

[calm sapphire]

Grenadier vet

[fiery stratus]

eh

gotta wait forever for like 2 nades

[obtuse pumice]

Yes

1 minute for 1 nade

[calm sapphire]

Demo team will proc pretty quick imo

[obtuse pumice]

Too long

[jovial juniper]

I have been here for a while

[obtuse pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/956977778270556213.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=minecraftdog

Bruh

[fiery stratus]

thats a good amount of time for melee only stuff, you can voc one into a group and hit maybe 5-6 at a time if you're lucky

[plucky flax]

Yo anyone wanna help a guy do twins? Need 2 more?

[summer prairie]

ok

[patent mango]

for melee modifier it spawns a bot with infinite smoke grenades

[radiant ice]

What are the decent anti-carapace melee options we have? Other than Duelling Sword of course, that’s a given

[jovial juniper]

Uh Deimos

[patent mango]

deimos

[fiery stratus]

Knife, combat axes

[calm sapphire]

The issue is that it's hard to see crushers doing their overhead from the back when there's 4 ofem in front of u + bulwarks

[plucky flax]

Need 1 more.

[summer prairie]

me

[plucky flax]

• you still need 1 more.

[fiery stratus]

oh yeah i know

[quartz barn]

Would join but am not home

[fiery stratus]

basically just have to measure your dodges and stay on rhythm to avoid the overheads

how it is in vt2 when theres 15 chaos warriors stacked on top of each other lol

[calm sapphire]

Yeah your screwed if u don't pace your dodges when getting chases by 30 crushers

[upper sun]

still need help?

[plucky flax]

Ye dawg.

[upper sun]

ogryn ok?

[plucky flax]

Play what you want bruh

[upper sun]

are we playing it normally or are we cheesing the 63 door?

[jovial juniper]

Honorable mention to +cara XIIIg (it'll struggle against more than 1 whatever)

[fiery stratus]

gungryns good for twins pretty sure

[summer prairie]

I haven't played it since we last did it probably

[mossy oyster]

how is clad nerd enough to know 63 door but sucks

[plucky flax]

We use the bell.

[mossy oyster]

crazy

[plucky flax]

Wut 63 door wtf?

[radiant ice]

XIIIg?

[upper sun]

dorn grub

[plucky flax]

I don't even know what that mean.

[mossy oyster]

some spawn door in the twins fight

[summer prairie]

no cheese

[mossy oyster]

ah makes sense

[upper sun]

elites spawn from that door

[mossy oyster]

sucks to be you

[plucky flax]

I don't know that strat I just play normally and carry.

[frail harness]

Hardmode twins? I still haven't done that. What's even good against twins?

[plucky flax]

(Or die)

[summer prairie]

I'm just taking bistol because I don't care

[upper sun]

eh him and ainz did it for me and i can learn (kinda)

[plucky flax]

Psyker is good.

[summer prairie]

or maybe surge

[upper sun]

im launching the game rn

[mossy oyster]

I remember me and Cole helping someone for hard twins and Cole talking about door 63 and I’m just like

I’m going to pretend I know what that is

lmfao

[plucky flax]

FS code?

[summer prairie]

9207756629

[radiant ice]

Ahh

[jovial juniper]

It's not as fast as the others though

[upper sun]

same but it gets obvious when you play an ogryn (dont have to look up to see the big 63)