what stat should I dump on combat knife if I'm gonna run it with inferno/surge staff, as in I'm not really gonna use it that much for damage and more for mobility
#psyker-class
ashen trellis
clear heath
Honestly i don't really feel that slow/fragile on psyker melee
nocturne dust
It absolutely is an issue
radiant frigate
nuh uh
clear heath
like obviously more frail than zealot but it's fine
thorn cedar
what stat should I dump on combat knife if I'm gonna run it with inferno/surge s...
penetration if youre taking uncanny strike
patent mango
i want my spellblade glass cannon
prime elk
It absolutely is an issue
nocturne dust
Like, the reason you feel the durability as a pain is because you lack both speed and durability. Having one lets you get away with a lot more.
patent mango
slash crusher in half
clear heath
Scriers gives enough mobility imo
ashen trellis
penetration if youre taking uncanny strike
thanks
clear heath
We have a good amount of movespeed
patent mango
make true aim proc on melee attacks
radiant frigate
idk i feel plenty mobile
prime elk
Scriers gives enough mobility imo
i'm guessing he's not running the chad movement speed subnode
patent mango
its the only talent tier that only works on ranged
thorn cedar
make true aim proc on melee attacks
<.<
radiant frigate
am i running at the speed of crackhead zealot? no
clear heath
There's also mettle movespeed
radiant frigate
but that is overkill
clear heath
and short bursts from DD
prime elk
and short bursts from DD
yup and yup
patent mango
its lame to have both surety and true aim ranged only
nocturne dust
Scriers gives enough mobility imo
It costs a whole talent point and isn't active during the lingering effect
prime elk
It costs a whole talent point and isn't active during the lingering effect
it's still up all the time
radiant frigate
it's still up all the time
literally no
nocturne dust
and short bursts from DD
It is a super short buff that really is only relevant to immediately after you kill a target
nocturne dust
it's still up all the time
no 
patent mango
double mettle speed duration
clear heath
and we have survivability from the toughness gain from quietude during any scriers quelling, from crack of bone and such
patent mango
since it got nerfed anyways
clear heath
and empathic evasion
prime elk
and not to mention the other movement speed buffs
clear heath
Idk i've been finding it to not be an issue the more i've gotten better at it
prime elk
complaining about speed on bonker is literally just a build or playstyle issue
nocturne dust
Look
prime elk
durability is a complaint i'm behind
nocturne dust
I can play gunker just fine, yes
patent mango
i want more speed uptime yea
nocturne dust
but compare them to Vet or Zealot and they fall behind and not by a little
errant pawn
New class: Sonic
craggy crest
psyker already has strong weapons with infinite dodges
clear heath
Like genuinely my melee damage is significantly higher than my ranged. I'm not just playing gun/assail and and pretending it's meleeker being effective
errant pawn
*subclass
patent mango
psyker already has strong weapons with infinite dodges
thats every class now
thorn cedar
psyker already has strong weapons with infinite dodges
thats been gone a while
patent mango
except ogryn
nocturne dust
Like genuinely my melee damage is significantly higher than my ranged. I'm not j...
I mean you can do that 🤷♂️
I too can use only my melee on psyker and get infinite melee damage to ranged damage ratio
prime elk
lmao he clearly wasn't saying that
clear heath
I'm saying a melee focused playstyle still works well
patent mango
clearly they just gotta buff the heck out of charged strike
nocturne dust
And I'm saying it has a lot of room to be better
prime elk
bonker definitely isn't meta, but it's super fun and still effective
you just have to be careful
thorn cedar
squishy? yes. lacking? not even slightly.
nocturne dust
Fun is debatable.
ivory path
Does the enfeeble node affect the damage of smite itself?
prime elk
nothing gets me off like out-damaging zealots, both in terms of overall damage and melee damage
while playing bonker
thorn cedar
Does the enfeeble node affect the damage of smite itself?
yes but its still not worth it
patent mango
move souldrinker to right then put movement speed on melee kill talent on left
prime elk
if it was just bad zealots, i wouldn't even be talking about this
ivory path
yes but its still not worth it
I was following the build guide, but realized I dont care about kinetic deflection so i was trying to reallocate the 2 points.
thorn cedar
which guide
nocturne dust
if it was just bad zealots, i wouldn't even be talking about this
It really is tho
thorn cedar
you kinda do want to care for kinetic deflection but thats up to you
very potent node
drifting elk
bitch we got the mlgs in fatshark games now
patent mango
kinetic is jolly
nocturne dust
Go play with any of the zealot mains that hang around zealot chat and try to outdamage them in melee
patent mango
i wish the talents below also had a melee option like kinetic
prime elk
Go play with any of the zealot mains that hang around zealot chat and try to out...
wouldn't be a fair comparison, because i know they're prob better players than me 
drifting elk
Go play with any of the zealot mains that hang around zealot chat and try to out...
why would anyone willingly play with anyone from zealot chat
ivory path
Only time i find myself blocking is when Ive got a boss on me
prime elk
an actually meaningful comparison would be two players of equal skill level
thorn cedar
i think you have an oversized opinion about the skill level of our zealot mains and also perhaps of yourself
nocturne dust
an actually meaningful comparison would be two players of equal skill level
Not really
upper sun
Only time i find myself blocking is when Ive got a boss on me
dodge what you can block what you cant
thorn cedar
Only time i find myself blocking is when Ive got a boss on me
what's your tree like rn then
upper sun
why would anyone willingly play with anyone from zealot chat
theyre nice people too
prime elk
Not really
i mean if you want to test it, that's how you would. otherwise skill level is also a factor that'll make the end result meaningless lmao
"not really"
clear heath
I think it'd be closer than you'd think
upper sun
everyone is nice :333 nice posting only!!!
thorn cedar
cat posting only
ivory path
what's your tree like rn then
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/azyr-psyker-smite-venting-shriek-empowered-psionics-auric-ready This but no kinetic
patent mango
if force greatsword is good enough melee psyker will be real
nocturne dust
i mean if you want to test it, that's how you would. otherwise skill level is al...
Yes, but you shouldn't balance around equal but low skill
prime elk
i'm not talking about balance, but aight
wispy oyster
the sword with the power of god and anime!
prime elk
i guess we're talking about different things so whatever
drifting elk
theyre nice people too
in some fucked up otherworld maybe
nocturne dust
i'm not talking about balance, but aight
mfer, you are literally talking about meleeker balance
prime elk
i'm only talking about their current effectiveness, not about how they should be balanced
drifting elk
dont try to have a conversation with sirosky theyre bait
thorn cedar
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ba81400-4c60-4362-9756-f93428dfc021/az...
id take emphatic evasion (middle) and perfect timing (top)
nocturne dust
Exposed 
drifting elk
you got me
great minds think alike
clear heath
I think our melee effectiveness being a slightly behind zealot is pretty fair, considering our ranged options
prime elk
great minds think alike
if you were a great mind you wouldn't spoil the fun
clear heath
I don't think the gap is that big
nocturne dust
I think our melee effectiveness being a slightly behind zealot is pretty fair, c...
Yes. I don't think we're 'slightly' behind.
drifting elk
if you were a great mind you wouldn't spoil the fun
nocturne dust
And a more important part is that we can't function well with most melee weapons.
ivory path
id take emphatic evasion (middle) and perfect timing (top)
Ooh good call on perfect timing
thorn cedar
i feel like you're just working backwards from a conclusion
prime elk
I think our melee effectiveness being a slightly behind zealot is pretty fair, c...
can confirm, or maybe i just exclusively play with bad zealots
patent mango
fr make true aim proc on melee
prime elk
which is a possibility too
patent mango
it'd be 🔥
thorn cedar
@ivory path if i can be bold and suggest something different though, i'd run that build with this tree instead
nocturne dust
Like, staffker sure but gunker is a clear build that Fatshark is encouraging that is behind in both ranged and melee compared to Vet
and brings nothing to the table of any significance other than assail
patent mango
i dont even bring assail
thorn cedar
now i know you're working backwards
nocturne dust
now i know you're working backwards
No u
clear heath
Go play with any of the zealot mains that hang around zealot chat and try to out...
It's funny you mention that because last time i mentioned it there, it seemed like they had a high opinion of it?
lone wing
Go play with any of the zealot mains that hang around zealot chat and try to out...
spoiler: it won't happen
nocturne dust
It's funny you mention that because last time i mentioned it there, it seemed li...
Zealots have strange opinions, which is separate
Dorn thinks everything should be nerfed
Things like that
thorn cedar
who's dorn
analog agate
Zealot chat barely even talks about Darktide lol
analog agate
Dorn is kinda right. Power creep is real
clear heath
Yeah but i get the impression that para probably does outdamage them with meleeker
nocturne dust
I mean if you're looking at powercreep in isolation sure
but enemies have also been buffed
lone wing
Zealot chat barely even talks about Darktide lol
zealot chat talks about the game when needed. everyone in there is a crack head and can get their point across without having to go into detail all that much
nocturne dust
and the game's paradigm has shifted
patent mango
everything explodes nowadays
analog agate
zealot chat talks about the game when needed. everyone in there is a crack head ...
Heresy here. We argue about semantics until we hate each other
clear heath
I'm gonna hold off on arguing about nerfs until havoc is out
lone wing
Heresy here. We argue about semantics until we hate each other
you are letting the local meth addicts win
patent mango
tbh if meleeker is bad even with force gs a buff to charged strike and a bit more to lightning speed would help a lot
clear heath
If they never announced harder content, i'd probably agree that we're too strong
nocturne dust
tbh if meleeker is bad even with force gs a buff to charged strike and a bit mor...
Charged Strike doesn't really mesh with typical gunker tho
Assail 😭
patent mango
im not taking assail
analog agate
They shouldn’t balance for Havoc at all when it isn’t really replayable. At least easily
nocturne dust
It would have to be a big buff to charged strike to make it competitive with assail
patent mango
cdr!!!!!
clear heath
Illisi can drop assail just fine. I assume the new force GS can probably do so as well
cause they can self sustain malefic pretty easily
mental grail
Like, staffker sure but gunker is a clear build that Fatshark is encouraging tha...
It's fun though, and FS seems very "fun first" when it comes to game design. I don't know how to defend giving zealot DS otherwise. 💀
lone wing
assail is the best pathing for gunker
nocturne dust
It's fun though, and FS seems very "fun first" when it comes to game design. I d...
and tons of speed on meleeker would be fun 
nocturne dust
Illisi can drop assail just fine. I assume the new force GS can probably do so a...
Look, everything is technically fine.
patent mango
10% movement speed on melee kill on lightning speed talent
clear heath
I don't see how anyone can play scriers DD and not think we're already fast
lone wing
you will not have fun
clear heath
We have +35% movespeed in most combat situations and an occassional +55% when DD procs.
nocturne dust
I don't see how anyone can play scriers DD and not think we're already fast
because the buffs are super intermittent and you are at base speed a lot of the time.
brazen warren
Like, staffker sure but gunker is a clear build that Fatshark is encouraging tha...
agree, but I take smite for the utility because I dislike the assail peril management
lone wing
It’s fine!!!! But… it’s wrong
me running shredder autopistol + heavysword 9 for a meme
lone wing
agree, but I take smite for the utility because I dislike the assail peril manag...
it has the easiest peril managment in the game what
brazen warren
considering i can run zealot and get as good returns or better on a gunker style with less than half the effort
lone wing
10% per shard
nocturne dust
and running Scrier's speed also has an opportunity cost for an inconsistent buff.
brazen warren
still, i like gunker
clear heath
Scriers should be up for a huge portion of the time.
Mettle should be up pretty much in any combat situation
analog agate
me running shredder autopistol + heavysword 9 for a meme
I haven’t tried shredder since… before patch 12? Whenever it was actually good and the gunker weapon. I really enjoy the hs though
brazen warren
as I said its a personal thing about the management, its fine
clear heath
If mettle's not up, i assume you're not in combat
lone wing
I haven’t tried shredder since… before patch 12? Whenever it was actually good a...
it's still pretty shit but it's funny
nocturne dust
Scriers should be up for a huge portion of the time.
Mettle should be up pretty ...
Scrier's speed isn't active during the lingering effect
brazen warren
vraks infantry auto is my gun of choice, high rate of fire, flexible, good ammo
lone wing
if you're playing gunker you're taking a ds4 as well
brazen warren
sometimes I use the mk4 recon las
patent mango
genius
lone wing
charge heavy slide for more movement
brazen warren
ds4 my beloved
patent mango
its peril generation sadly
brazen warren
even before the other classes got it it was god tier
patent mango
tdr would be nice too
nocturne dust
its peril generation sadly
We can abandon more than one thing
patent mango
assail?
craggy crest
here it is... i mentioned before the deflector perk simply wasn't doing anything for me. same thing happens with regular bullets
lone wing
it needed to compete so yeah
lone wing
it's why ds is broken on zealot
patent mango
<:staregryn:1022085083844325376>
craggy crest
nocturne dust
I don't get how people can look at the gulf between ds on Psyker and ds on zealot/vet and think Psyker melee build is comparable, lol
lone wing
i take deimos
honestly fair
clear heath
You don't have deflector
Deflector's buff icon is this. You don't have it
You probably equipped the wrong sword lol
patent mango
i just wanna be able to spec into melee further
nocturne dust
You don't have deflector
I've had the game decide I don't have deflector
patent mango
of course it'd all be fine if force gs can make up for it
mental grail
if you're playing gunker you're taking a ds4 as well
you do?
nocturne dust
of course it'd all be fine if force gs can make up for it
no
nocturne dust
None of this stupid 'we have X so it's fine'. We literally had that already with dueling sword.
nocturne dust
mental grail
o
patent mango
force gs cant be given away
nocturne dust
force gs cant be given away <:steamhappy:1072363875107868692>
Fatshark about to release the second psyker class:
patent mango
navigator class
nocturne dust
clear heath
I've been running a lot of illisi lately
patent mango
tbh it was nice to finally not need to take that +5% ranged dmg node
nocturne dust
tbh it was nice to finally not need to take that +5% ranged dmg node
does it work on force gs special tho?
late sapphire
if it did that'd mean true aim also would
if true aim works...
patent mango
false aim
modest perch
Schrodingers aim
nocturne dust
if true aim works...
surge on force gs?
patent mango
oh surge is really good on force gs
prime elk
yeah i'm having fun with it
nocturne dust
ew
minor wedge
feels difficult
nocturne dust
ew
minor wedge
Not a big fan of the single shot las
clear heath
one day you will get there, and the difficulty will disappear
minor wedge
I present to thee, my roughneck
(totaly didn't whale because I got paid; I promise)
nocturne dust
(totaly didn't whale because I got paid; I promise)
nocturne dust
"Yes, Beloved, we will kill them all!"
I find it funny that the Beloved personalities have different ways of reacting to teammates dying. There's one specific Ogryn death voiceline where the male is normally "Oh, Ogryn's gone" while the female is "BELOVED, BRING HIM BAAAAAAACK", lol
broken carbon
ur vet found a dead space marine and stole his shoulder pauldron
broken carbon
plausible
delicate dove
"MY SIBLING... MURDERED!" - Savant
patent mango
my psyker's scrier voicelines will hit diff soon
i hope force gs has silly cleave for crack of bone
mental grail
I find it funny that the Beloved personalities have different ways of reacting t...
Male Seer is legit psychotic, Female Seer is mostly manic.
delicate dove
Male Seer is legit psychotic, Female Seer is mostly manic.
Dementia/Mania?
mental grail
sheogorath grindset?? (is hehe is insane)
delicate dove
Wabbajack staff skin where
lethal lagoon
radiant ice
I've tried all the voices
But always come back to female Loner
The screaming and laughing just fits my soul too well
patent mango
for my beloved!!! perils
nocturne dust
split lance
radiant frigate
oh ok
lethal lagoon
They literally made a moonlight force sword
patent mango
nocturne dust
Someone is going in the heresy bin
minor wedge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1311009529894539324/u...
I am SO looking forward to taht
split lance
Someone is going in the heresy bin
call me the freak marine
radiant frigate
They literally made a moonlight force sword
i might argue that it is not a moonlight force sword, but rather a force greatsword of judgement
based on shape and lack of wide phantasmal blade
that aside
sword beams cool
melee psyker is back on the menu
patent mango
for my beloved!!! slices beast of nurgle in half
lethal lagoon
i might argue that it is not a moonlight force sword, but rather a force greatsw...
How about you argue deez nuts
patent mango
ermmm its a forcelight greatsword actually
marble crater
lethal lagoon
radiant frigate
moonlight force greatsword of judgement
lethal lagoon
Void showing why he's dead one comment at a time
strong gulch
scattershot sword
marble crater
Fake pysker dectected
I was away for a while, I'm excused
radiant ice
Am I missing any of the recommended mods? XD
late sapphire
Am I missing any of the recommended mods? XD
Healthbars and Spidey Sense
radiant ice
Wasn't a fan of spidey sense!
lethal lagoon
You are missing a mod that starts with D
radiant ice
Never saw healthbars though
nocturne dust
Grab Warp Unbound timer
marble crater
You are missing a mod that starts with D
Deez nuts
radiant ice
Grab Warp Unbound timer
Oh that would be an insane one
lethal lagoon
Did you edit spidey sense to only find poxbursters for example?
It definitely is too much tracking everything
radiant ice
Did you edit spidey sense to only find poxbursters for example?
I'm just more of a audio player, I found it to just be clutter I ignored
late sapphire
Lets you matchmake from the operative select screen
lethal lagoon
Most of us are, but poxbursters don't really give you a chance to be an audio player 50% of the time lmao
radiant ice
This one?
radiant ice
Lets you matchmake from the operative select screen
I don't get that screen any more thanks to LogMeIn XD
radiant ice
I have a different mod that loads me straight into the hub
late sapphire
That sucks man
strong gulch
Am I missing any of the recommended mods? XD
clean force blocking
psych ward
scoreboards explosive
warp unbound timer
late sapphire
Psych ward lets you skip all of the back and forth loading
radiant ice
DarkCache makes loading a thing of the past anyway
late sapphire
Lol
radiant ice
I can hop into merchants/meat grinder/back to Morning Star with 0.5s loading or just instant
late sapphire
FullAuto is good too, lets you autofire lasguns and the like,
MultiBind lets you bind several keys to actions (such as a mouse sidebutton to quell or nade)
hazy moss
i take back what i said earlier
i played with the crit voidstrike a lot more
this build is a lot of fun
radiant ice
FullAuto is good too, lets you autofire lasguns and the like,
MultiBind lets you...
Ah I have a MMO mouse so I can do that without multibind
hazy moss
still not as strong as surge staff but when u get a big ball pierced shot going
oooh yea
radiant ice
FullAuto sounds great though
strong gulch
full auto can be a fussy tho, it just doesn't work right sometimes.
swapping weapons or tuning off and on fixes it tho.
it's a hand saver
nocturne dust
full auto can be a fussy tho, it just doesn't work right sometimes.
swapping we...
Yeah, fullauto be weird
prime elk
yeah not worth getting carpal tunnel over
it should really be in the game by default rather than requiring a mod
strong gulch
Makes laspitol playable
patent mango
can fatshark add fullauto, chatblock and numeric ui to base game pls
at least chatblock....
radiant ice
it should really be in the game by default rather than requiring a mod
Honestly since playing Dark and Darker, I agree
late sapphire
Ah I have a MMO mouse so I can do that without multibind
Yeah same but i don't want my mouse buttons to be bound to r or something
f13-f24 exist for a reason
radiant ice
Everything even melee weapons are hold to swing repeatedly
radiant ice
Yeah same but i don't want my mouse buttons to be bound to r or something
Yup, mine has all that functions
But I just bind 1-0, -, = as my twelve buttons
late sapphire
twelve 😱
radiant ice
And typically in games use 1/2/3 to swap weapons, 4/5/6 for grenades, reloads that kind of thing
late sapphire
Might as well toss out the keyboard
radiant ice
I also have two left clicks 😛
I use one for autowalk in games that allow, typically mmos
And one for normal left click
late sapphire
I guess theoretically mine has 12 extra buttons too but almost all of them are gimmicks
radiant frigate
Honestly since playing Dark and Darker, I agree
very weird game imo
radiant frigate
but fun to watch people who actually know what they're doing in
patent mango
dark and darker is so weird to me
radiant ice
I am a bit of an addict to it
But taking a break while waiting for the new class to be added
late sapphire
And WarpUnboundTimer
If you get Better Buff Management and play around with customhud you can set up some nice stuff as well
radiant frigate
dark and darker is so weird to me
let me just look to the left and down to dodge
radiant ice
I play a lot of Chivalry so it's natural to me
patent mango
im buying chivalry 2 when it go on sale
radiant frigate
i think it is really weird to both look at and play
zinc phoenix
I play a lot of Chivalry so it's natural to me
aaaaaaaaaa
patent mango
dark and darker gamemodes just feel weird
radiant ice
FOR THE ORDER
patent mango
i didnt expect it to be some extraction battle royale??????
zinc phoenix
AAAAAAAAA
patent mango
idk lmao
zinc phoenix
chiv is honestly a lot of fun for how regarded it is
analog agate
Chiv is a ton of fun
radiant ice
Should I change this in Healthbars?
nocturne dust
The big boss bars still appear
waxen jackal
The big boss bars still appear
Hey, your purg build you linked me was insanely helpful. Do you have one for the electro staff?
nocturne dust
I only have one guide sadly 😔
radiant ice
Alright, that warp unbound timer is insane
nocturne dust
and it's for Inferno
waxen jackal
No worries. Just thought id ask
late sapphire
Alright, that warp unbound timer is insane
If you're running warp unbound you might want to set up something like this
radiant ice
Ah I don't like the bar or the dodge count
late sapphire
with better buff management you can split off true aim into its own buff bar and then stick it close to the centre
radiant ice
I do like the decimal to the peril % and the more accurate quell numbers
late sapphire
I've found knowing when true aim is about to proc is super useful
radiant ice
From my long vt2 hours I know my dodges without the number being there XD
late sapphire
numeric ui my beloved
radiant ice
Funny thing about this Warp Unbound timer
late sapphire
The dodge counter integrates into the subconscious when you get used to it
But if you're fine without yeah adding it doesn't do anything for you
radiant ice
You definitely get 3 extra seconds or so that this mod shows, that the regular buff is gone for
nocturne dust
Just not the dodge counter
You can turn it off iirc
patent mango
get custom hud to resize dodge counter to the entire screen
late sapphire
You definitely get 3 extra seconds or so that this mod shows, that the regular b...
1.5s
radiant ice
I have custom HUD but not designed one I want yet
late sapphire
There's a similar mod that shows a CHARGE on the screen while the zealots charge melee buff is up iirc
radiant ice
The only HUD change I have made is move the chat window more out the way
Cause it being in the middle was so annoying
weary crane
Rip girthwizard 
wispy oyster
shh
radiant ice
Girthwizard?
I came across someone called that and they had their stuff turned into a lazerbeam
radiant ice
How tf do you shoot that fast?
wispy oyster
m1 + r
late sapphire
Don't get into the quell canceling stuff it's evil
weary crane
After the update the primary fire was rapid anyway
wispy oyster
animation cancelling
radiant ice
It looked like that beam from Elden Ring tho
wispy oyster
its been in the game since vt2
wispy oyster
u had that on hand that fast huh
radiant ice
paper harbor
Some people hate macro quell canceling method
wispy oyster
what talents gief fineese dmg
indigo plank
Macro quell cancelling is for lil baby men with tiny pp’s
late sapphire
It's kind of cheaty
wispy oyster
u dont need a macro for qc
paper harbor
Ohh it's a macro?
It’s a mod for quell canceling
late sapphire
what talents gief fineese dmg
all of the right side stuff
scriers gaze disrupt destiny
indigo plank
They usually play like shit anyways because they don’t know how to use anything but their macro machine gun
indigo plank
So they bottom scoreboard every time lmao
wispy oyster
i was using SG but wap unbound uis bugged and im too braindead to play without it
indigo plank
At least you’re lucid
paper harbor
How did you get 62%
wispy oyster
i was like WTF why is the deamonhost attcking me, all i see is red lazer pew pew pew lol
radiant ice
How did you get 62%
Visual bug
radiant ice
One of my staves jump between 60 - 61 - 62
wispy oyster
paper harbor
the rest are 79.6 and stability is 61.6
Rounding is buggy yeah
radiant ice
Iirc it's purely visual
wispy oyster
well quell speed is dump on that staff
late sapphire
according to the stat inspect the stats are actually 80 80 80 and 79 though
late sapphire
well quell speed is dump on that staff
No
marble crater
63% blast radius? Bricked
weary crane
https://i.imgur.com/X5DQlwc.jpeg
your edging needs some improvement
indigo plank
The only HUD change I have made is move the chat window more out the way
Best psyker hand tattoos spotted 
late sapphire
63% blast radius? Bricked
I have a 'perfect' one i just like this one more
radiant ice
Best psyker hand tattoos spotted <:sob_handshake:857008250439729193>
This is me
indigo plank
That’s the new top yeah?
radiant ice
New top, previous shop pants
indigo plank
I like the old pajama one that I think just got cycled out
indigo plank
I use the penance ones with the single knee plate
Or I guess thigh plate
The ones without a pattern
Psyker is kinda lacking for trousers imo
wispy oyster
indigo plank
We have a lot of just…flat pairs of slacks
wispy oyster
im beautiful
quartz barn
thats just a zealot
radiant ice
https://imgur.com/TsMvbAL
I hard disagree
Damn chat moved
That was meant for us having bad pant options
I like the stripy ones
We have literal jeans
Slacks
Leather hotpants
Baggy cargo's
Armour
Literally every option!
wispy oyster
we all have skinny jeans 😦
radiant ice
Jinx vibes
indigo plank
Which is the majority of what is typically available to us
radiant ice
indigo plank
Yeah no
weary crane
yall talking about psyker drip?
indigo plank
Im not feeling dark fantasy penny wise
indigo plank
I’m a space wizard not a clown 
quartz barn
those are just clown pants with armor plates tho
indigo plank
I literally wear these but black instead of striped
wispy oyster
weary crane
i dont even use this
indigo plank
The clown pants are goofy af
wispy oyster
radiant ice
Our pants selections are glorious
indigo plank
Leather hot pants is just a variant of “flat pairs of slacks” which kinda adds to my point
quartz barn
like the og ones you'd expect people to wear in a circus animated by og disney
wispy oyster
woah
indigo plank
Those are just wet Levi’s
minor wedge
Thems some sweet kicks
radiant ice
indigo plank
It’s actually a really nice shade of leather
radiant ice
It's what I'm wearing here, same brown leather as the glove
wispy oyster
minor wedge
May I however
wispy oyster
black jeans!
indigo plank
https://imgur.com/WHmFu1w
These are nice but the boots are hideous
indigo plank
Like I love the pants, especially with the leather reinforcement for the knee
radiant ice
Version with alt boots
radiant ice
These are nice but the boots are hideous
indigo plank
Veteran has this problem too
radiant ice
There are other colours than green, just the first I selected
indigo plank
Great pair of cargos, sick insignia, then you’ve just got MOON SHOES on
wispy oyster
lol
indigo plank
Yeah I was saying earlier I wear the black version of these
radiant ice
How about these boots?
indigo plank
I bought it for the aquilas when it was on sale
indigo plank
Those are really really nice boots though
indigo plank
Like if I could take all those accessories and put them on another pair
Like the weapon customization mod
radiant ice
That does exist but I don't use either mod
indigo plank
Beta was nice because we didn’t know enough to be upset
radiant ice
Sucks to have customisations only you can see
indigo plank
Game was just new and fun
I like it for weapons, but yeah it’d be a bit sad having clientside cosmetics for your avatar
Penguin Storm vibes
indigo plank
My buddy had to turn off autofire because laspistol mk2 has too much dakka for him lol
wispy oyster
https://imgur.com/whjkxA6 my quell cancell build
paper harbor
My buddy had to turn off autofire because laspistol mk2 has too much dakka for h...
Machine laspistol
nocturne dust
Yeah, I can't single fire laspistol with full auto
radiant ice
My buddy had to turn off autofire because laspistol mk2 has too much dakka for h...
Hmm it seems rather slow to me still
paper harbor
The mkX is slower
indigo plank
Zealot perks make it go fast
radiant ice
At least for "daka"
indigo plank
Lots of attack speed boosting stuffs
radiant ice
I was expecting shredder pistol levels XD
radiant ice
I assume AutoFire just sends them out at max possible?
paper harbor
It’s a machine pistol
paper harbor
I assume AutoFire just sends them out at max possible?
Yes
radiant ice
What is automatic firemode toggle?
wispy oyster
can change it in mod options
radiant ice
Is it like click once to fire, click again to stop?
wispy oyster
can have toggle on or press and hold on
wispy oyster
u dont need to have a toggle anyway
radiant ice
I like it for weapons, but yeah it’d be a bit sad having clientside cosmetics fo...
It is a shame cause like, this is cool af
Admech class when?
chrome grove
I want to learn how to play Scriers Gaze gun psyker, is the Athenium build worth trying? Anyone have any suggestions on a place to start? It's tough to decipher good content from bad builds without playing it yet.
paper harbor
It is a shame cause like, this is cool af
Is that for the drip mod?
paper harbor
Probably dataminded cosmetic
rigid sky
I want to learn how to play Scriers Gaze gun psyker, is the Athenium build worth...
Take a duelling Sword 4, scrier's and Disrupt with the longer durarion. Recon XIV and Vraks 5 both feel great imo
Assail ideally imo
radiant ice
Probably dataminded cosmetic
I mean it literally has the Admech sigil on the chest
So that does hint at an Admech class if so 👀
paper harbor
I think not
radiant ice
Or at least an Admech cosmetic pack
rigid sky
With the end scrier's modifier you can dump super cleaving assails at 100 peril
radiant ice
I thought it was a total custom creation by mixing existing cosmetics with some custom stuff
wispy oyster
warp unbound is new and gives u 10 second grace time to quell peril so u dont blow up
but warp siphon = SG up very alot of times
rigid sky
Abuse that shit, 100 peril is a huge damage buff to everything anyway especially with the cleaving talent
Warp Siphon is an option but DD = maximum gunker imo
wispy oyster
but id recommend warp unbound timer mod cuz im too dumb to count to 10 after i reach 100 peril
rigid sky
You should go whole hog before you try something more balanced imo
Whole hog is fun as fuck
wispy oyster
but u gain 30 stacks of SG dmg buff but as soon as u reach 100% peril it drops off and then stays at 1 if u activate SG whilst at 100% peril again
chrome grove
but u gain 30 stacks of SG dmg buff but as soon as u reach 100% peril it drops o...
Can you explain this... slower? I dont get it.
rigid sky
Well do as feels good for you but try with DD at least a couple of times
It's a crazy level of power
chrome grove
Well do as feels good for you but try with DD at least a couple of times
Can you link a build?
wispy oyster
when u activate SG u get a buff stack that goes up to 30 if you stay below 100% peril but as soon as u hit 100% peril it loses stacks 1 by 1
chrome grove
when u activate SG u get a buff stack that goes up to 30 if you stay below 100% ...
Gotcha
radiant ice
You guys are awesome by the way, thanks for all the build and modding help these last few days 
True siblings
wispy oyster
radiant ice
Not you, you ignored my in game message the other day
wispy oyster
😮
radiant ice
wispy oyster
wanna play?
radiant ice
I’m just heading to bed, midnight here xD
rigid sky
Can you link a build?
radiant ice
I got a 12 hour shift tomorrow xD
rigid sky
when u activate SG u get a buff stack that goes up to 30 if you stay below 100% ...
It doesn't lose stacks 1 by 1, they linger for 10s and then all go at once iirc
chrome grove
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d95c6d3-6a94-4452-9957-70ba31...
Awesome thanks man
wispy oyster
game lantern builds are mainly troll builds got told not to link them
just becareful
rigid sky
game lantern builds are mainly troll builds got told not to link them
Well I made it myself just now lol
radiant ice
I mean people use it to send to each other here
I think that Krags… yeah
Made it himself just now xD
chrome grove
Im assuming he just used it as a platform to send me his build
fringe tangle
Admech class when?
Seems likely we'll get one, out of all possible new archtypes, an admech, aka Tech Adept is the best choice.
rigid sky
I wouldn't run without quietitude, it's a really strong toughness engine
I prefer the Vraks 5 still but a lot of people prefer a recon
chrome grove
Going with crit aura is interesting, do you not want the cooldown reduction?
rigid sky
You can pick tbh
radiant ice
Scriers Cooldown is so small anyway
late sapphire
Yeah, I can't single fire laspistol with full auto <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906...
I can't use any of them without
rigid sky
Cooldown reduction is also very good
radiant ice
The 10% cdr only reduces it by 2.5s
chrome grove
Which is good, but achievable with curio cdr
radiant ice
So you get it if you play with another Psyker majority of the time
rigid sky
Honestly I focus on stretching the gaze more
chrome grove
So either works, ok that's cool. I'll try both
rigid sky
Rather than cycling it
radiant ice
Yeah, I personally prefer the Crit aura too in Scriers
rigid sky
Bear in mind that getting excuses to use crit aura will help with the penance lol
fringe tangle
I like how Psykers Greatswords special attack is basically like that one magic katana from Elden Ring, the Moonveil iirc.
radiant ice
No how dare you
It is the Moonlight Greatsword and you will not associate the legend with that hoe of a weapon
rigid sky
Just bear in mind that you are fragile as fuck
fringe tangle
It is the Moonlight Greatsword and you will not associate the legend with that h...
Bruh, that's a different sword entirely.
rigid sky
You need to avoid getting hit and you don't have the classic psyker crowd control to stay safe
rigid sky
But if you're shooting or quelling you're recovering fast
chrome grove
@rigid sky What are the flex perks in this build
radiant ice
And Moonlight Greatsword is a god tier weapon across all souls games
rigid sky
And EE is a great lifesaver
chrome grove
I've been playing loads of Zealot and just wanted to try Psyker Zealot, feeling pretty proficient with dodging these days
rigid sky
<@98521750580498432> What are the flex perks in this build
You can swap quelling on ranged with Kinetic deflection
And you could do the other DD path if you're a lunatic
I wouldn't though
Actually tbh it is kinda tight
radiant ice
(I am only messing, but yeah the new force greatsword looks awesome)
rigid sky
It stretches gaze a lot
chrome grove
What's my goal, just stay at 80-99 peril?
rigid sky
Just let it do what it does
Quell if you wanna time it to pop off later
When you hit 100, release the bees
clear heath
Could also drop ethereal shards if you find yourself meleeeing a lot more
rigid sky
I mean you can be very flexible
And DD is easier to maintain than a lot of people think
clear heath
The keystone, Disrupt Destiny
chrome grove
Thanks
rigid sky
You gotta be a twitchy bastard
fathom adder
When you hit 100, release the bees
fringe tangle
Moonveil is weeb trash, how dare you compare them
Japanese sword is trash in Japanese made game? Lolwut.
chrome grove
At 10s it seems easy to maintain
rigid sky
Bees are also great at hunting DD targets
Yeah, you get 3 stacks for a weakspot kill
And bees go for heada
Heads
Vraks 5 has a disgustingly good weakspot and crit modifier
chrome grove
Ok great. So how do I use assail? What's the gameplay loop?
rigid sky
Which gets super amped by gaze and DD
Just throw bees when it makes sense to lol
They do their own thing
wispy oyster
also a tip for assail they follow your crosshair... i didnt know this till recently thats why i didnt like assail til i found that out
rigid sky
Sorry, by bees I mean assail
fringe tangle
Ok great. So how do I use assail? What's the gameplay loop?
throw into gunner/shooter mobs, is easy win vs those enemies, can also throw them into hordes if need be
rigid sky
They clear basically anything that isn't a mauler or an ogryn
And they are a warp attack
So you gain toughness
And at 100 peril they cleave to 6 targets
Which is fucking silly.
chrome grove
So at 100 peril I have 10 seconds to just go wild and then need sub 100 peril to not explode?
rigid sky
(With the cleave node I recommended)
chrome grove
Which includes spamming assail to cleave a tonne of shit
rigid sky
Just don't do another peril up action after 10s
Yeah, stop assails with plenty of time left
Or quell a bit
chrome grove
You rock, thanks everyone
rigid sky
If you shoot you'll quell that way too
fringe tangle
So at 100 peril I have 10 seconds to just go wild and then need sub 100 peril to...
You can't explode at 100 peril, you explode by trying to go past it
chrome grove
How mandatory do you consider rampage for this build
rigid sky
Depending on your talents, but my set would do that
chrome grove
Im not used to running it on Zealot
rigid sky
Not mandatory
It just helps with horde clear
I take it personally
You don't have to
chrome grove
Cool, I'll try it with and without
rigid sky
You will 2-shot Crushers with that toothpick btw
I love gunker honestly, secret 5th class
fathom adder
You can't explode at 100 peril, you explode by trying to go past it
And this... is to go EVEN FURTHER BEYOND!
dies
chrome grove
Do you think it's viable to run this with knife?
Im fully versed in how busted DS is
rigid sky
Probably yeah
fringe tangle
Melee Psyker builds are going to be nutty with the new 2H FS. Like it'll basically double as a staff with it's special attack.
rigid sky
You want to be able to kill melee elites efficiently
All of them
And also clear out of a horde quickly
And abuse Finesse scaling
chrome grove
Probably want a 60 mobility DS for this one eh
fringe tangle
I strongly favour the DS4 tbh
Best one tbh.
chrome grove
I think I'm going to go knife off the start just for a bit of a new experience
Ive been spamming DS so much
rigid sky
Well psyker is the OG for it
And imo gunker uses it to the strongest effect, on psyker
fringe tangle
We need spears, then we will have dueling sword extra long edition.
rigid sky
Duelling force sword
Duelling force power chain sword
Have to activate each stage of it sequentially
Then just pop it into the ground and bang exterminatus done
Am I missing any of the other spices?
placid crypt
Force Hammer, psyker needs to be able to bonk with the warp
rigid sky
Force shovel
nocturne dust
Force Force Sword
fringe tangle
Force Power Fist
nocturne dust
fringe tangle
Then Psyker can yell "I cast fist"
pine relic
So, you can finally go soul blaze build?
fringe tangle
Force Martial Arts would be a pretty cool Psyker weapon, just beat up the enemies with your bare hands by using the warp to greatly enhance physical strength and speed.
patent jacinth
(this is called Iron Arm)
nocturne dust
So, you can finally go soul blaze build?
Actually soulblaze on the sword might still be bad
Cuz if the ranged attack just kills the chaff anyway...
🤷♂️
patent jacinth
I think thats just the FX from the wave hitting them
analog agate
Soul blaze doesn’t apply to the sword shot anyways
nocturne dust
Soul blaze doesn’t apply to the sword shot anyways
fringe tangle
Cuz if the ranged attack just kills the chaff anyway...
Might have some use on elite packs though.
nocturne dust
Might have some use on elite packs though.
I mean if it's typical soulblaze on crit blessing but only if the target doesn't die, probably better options
unless the blessings really, really suck
fringe tangle
I hope they have some cool blessings for the new weapons and not just everything copy and pasted from old weapons.
analog agate
Playtester confirmed soul blaze blessing doesn’t work on the sword shot.
nocturne dust
I hope they have some cool blessings for the new weapons and not just everything...
Warp Cycler
fringe tangle
Playtester confirmed soul blaze blessing doesn’t work on the sword shot.
That's really lame then.
nocturne dust
Playtester confirmed soul blaze blessing doesn’t work on the sword shot.
This is why we can't have nice things
fringe tangle
they should make it work on the wave attack. would be good.
analog agate
Said it would be too OP with flaming shriek
patent mango
nocturne dust
Said it would be too OP with flaming shriek
fringe tangle
Said it would be too OP with flaming shriek
Flaming Shriek and EP Smite combo already does this though
patent mango
attack speed blessing
nocturne dust
Even if the ranged attack had no limit to cleave/range, I doubt it applying soulblaze guaranteed would be stronger than what we have, let alone on crit
sounds like an excuse
analog agate
Yeah idk. It is what he said
fringe tangle
Even if the ranged attack had no limit to cleave/range, I doubt it applying soul...
yeah true. Would just be a fun alternative option and not Op.
well not more OP then other stuff anyway
nocturne dust
Unless its soulblaze blessing has no stack cap and is super easy application
+999 stacks on hit
patent mango
blessing to make the force slash an x double slash instead
fathom adder
I hope they have some cool blessings for the new weapons and not just everything...
"Sorry, best I can do is 4 Impact blessings, 4 Cleave blessings, and Rampage"
patent mango
_"Sorry, best I can do is 4 Impact blessings, 4 Cleave blessings, and Rampage"_
bad ending
fringe tangle
_"Sorry, best I can do is 4 Impact blessings, 4 Cleave blessings, and Rampage"_
I hope not, would be lame. Hope it has a few unique blessings.
indigo plank
It is a shame cause like, this is cool af
Oh fuck that is dope. It would be cool if we got certain “costumes” like this as part of events
nocturne dust
_"Sorry, best I can do is 4 Impact blessings, 4 Cleave blessings, and Rampage"_
cleave and rampage is too useful, replace them with more impact
fringe tangle
An interesting blessing for 2H FS could be one that makes the wave really narrow, but it has more range and does a lot more damage. Good to snipe specials in a horde for example.
patent mango
wispy oyster
just use warp splitting up to 100% cleave based on peril :p
fringe tangle
True.
wispy oyster
works on melee ranged and assail
patent mango
thrust on force gs
wispy oyster
THE POWER OF GOD AND ANIME
fringe tangle
just use warp splitting up to 100% cleave based on peril :p
That's already really nice on the illis, imagine the giant fucking force sword at 100%
patent mango
we getting out of beta with this one
wispy oyster
right side build meta
radiant ice
we getting out of beta with this one
Pfft, we getting out the alpha and into the beta
We’re almost at 40% of the stuff promised at launch
wispy oyster
bro its early access alpha
patent mango
they didnt promise force greatsword
fringe tangle
they didnt promise force greatsword
No, but it was in the files since the beta.
patent mango
No, but it was in the files since the beta.
yea
radiant ice
ObeseFish need to yap less pre-launch, it would solve a lot of their problems
fringe tangle
And 4 new classes a year
I mean we got 8 new classes technically.
radiant ice
Perk trees/“subclasses”
fringe tangle
but if you mean archtypes, yeah I hope we get one next year.
fathom adder
Hey, now that all the console ports are done maybe the speed of content will improve from glacier to snail
fringe tangle
I think doing one is perfectly possible.
radiant ice
My issue is just they need to stop promising stuff they never deliver
nocturne dust
one new class per century
radiant ice
Honestly just give us Admech archetype
With Unlocked and Loaded already out most people will be happy
patent mango
unlucky for some.....
radiant ice
We have two unused elevators that were promised to have uses at launch
patent mango
abyss bar in darktide
fringe tangle
With Unlocked and Loaded already out most people will be happy
Yeah, game finally hit 1.0 with the shitty crafting remover update.
radiant ice
I love the game but we still in early beta at best
patent mango
1.0 is this next one 🔥
depending on how the new mission turns out story wise
it might really feel like 1.0
tho im obviously mostly interested in the weapons by this point
radiant ice
The feature list promised at launch is still majority not delivered
I don’t think a mission will change that xD
fringe tangle
idk, I think if the game launched as it is now, instead of 2 years ago it would of been met with lots of praise, and probably like an 90% or more rating in the steam reviews.
radiant ice
Agreed, if they didn’t promise endless stuff that never arrived
patent mango
monetisation is like the only big issue left
fringe tangle
monetisation is like the only big issue left
Yeah the fomo, terrible skin pricing and lazy reskins need fixing.
patent mango
we dont even got a cape for backpack slot....
patent jacinth
The paid shop is run out of studio
radiant ice
I still remember Fatshark promising the ability to add scopes and attachments to weapons
fathom adder
Paypigs can subsidize my video games all day, as long as real money can't be spent on quantitative advantage
patent mango
they just need to add scope options tbh
fathom adder
I still remember Fatshark promising the ability to add scopes and attachments to...
At least there are mods for that, on PC at least
radiant ice
Which makes it even more tragic that it isn’t in the base game
2 years after the promised date
patent mango
fatshark just needs to add the qol mods to base game
im surprised chatblock isnt in yet
fathom adder
Fatshark doesn't believe in QoL
You WILL run through the Mourningstar and you WILL enjoy it
clear heath
Okay so, replaced precog with uncanny.
Also, i have made the build significantly worse, by changing to aura to elite damage, perks to cara/elites, 25 stacked DD, and now it kills with a non-crit.
You may now spread this as illisi propoganda to misrepresent its effectiveness
patent mango
Fatshark doesn't believe in QoL
You WILL run through the Mourningstar and you W...
i do actually
paper harbor
im surprised chatblock isnt in yet
Yeah only mod rescue it
clear heath
man stacking DD to 25 in psykanium is annoying af though
radiant ice
I couldn’t imagine getting a FatShark game on console, sounds awful
Imagine having to be forever stuck to the base game with no access to the files to fix inevitable breaks
Yuck
patent mango
one my friends that got into dt recently said "dt is peak but somehow lacks all the qol lmao"
thankfully they're on pc
clear heath
TiL
I can enable DD in psykanium by turning aggro on and off while the enemies are spawned. Doesn't need to stay on
They just need to know i exist for a brief moment
patent mango
premium class
patent mango
rogue trader pasqal
radiant ice
I did the early funding for that game!
Got a bunch of unique rewards
Not actually played it cause my coop partner and I got new jobs
patent mango
i cant believe rogue trader is also adding new force swords
radiant ice
And our schedules haven’t lined up yet
It’s a shame we can’t create a Mechanicus character though
Even if just as the custom companion
patent mango
gotta mod for that sadly
radiant ice
But then doesn’t Pasqal still routinely call you out as not part of the Mechanicus
And I’d run him all the time
So it’d feel too disjointed for me
patent mango
oof
kindred edge
lmao
weary crane
1 quintillion trappers vs 1 bubble
rigid mortar
I want to learn how to play Scriers Gaze gun psyker, is the Athenium build worth...
Probably not the most optimal but it’s fun. Grab your handy dandy laspistol, throw dumb dumb on it. Then just grab a devil’s claw, as the parry can help in a pitch. Assail is what a run for blitz.
Now if you’re feeling spicy(note I have not tired this). Grab a shredder auto pistol with the perk for extra damage in the back. Get the brain burst perk that allows it to trigger randomly.
Idk if this helped but you just got to find what feels right to you.
waxen jackal
Does anyone have a skill tree for the electro staff I could use?
nocturne dust
Does anyone have a skill tree for the electro staff I could use?
Use +flak and [preference], I use +unyielding
waxen jackal
Thanks. So pretty much the same as the inferno. Just small changes
rigid mortar
Use +flak and [preference], I use +unyielding
What about elite damage?
nocturne dust
Yeah, all staves except Voidstrike are very similar
waxen jackal
Yeah my voidstrike is built like a gunker
nocturne dust
What about elite damage?
Elite damage only helps to hit a single breakpoint, unyielding helps to kill 3 enemies (bulwarks, reapers, and bosses)
Elite damage only reduces the number of attacks you have to do on a single type of gunner
which is... very eh in my opinion
jovial juniper
rigid mortar
Wait I thought elite targeted every single enemy that pops up in the kill feed. Like trappers, gunners, ragers, snipers, etc
waxen jackal
What blessings? Surge, nexus?