#psyker-class

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quartz barn
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Only exception i know is purg if you dont run wildfire

radiant ice
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Suppose I should try the hybrid 1/1 on toughness and hp

paper harbor
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i haven't try delfector blessing vs sniper

radiant ice
paper harbor
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if is work, then ill buy it

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๐ŸงŒ

mental rock
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doesnt work

radiant ice
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I found out last night from curiosity in a premade

tacit stump
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why not, ogryn shield works

mental rock
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ogryn shield>deflector

tacit stump
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...

runic kiln
quartz barn
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Hp because its a % increase, while stuff like burster dmg and corruption is a flat amount

tacit stump
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additive or multiplicative?

quartz barn
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Uhh not sure tbh

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I only have the hp% on a single curio on psyk

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And i literally build my ogryn curios yesterday

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Probably additive however

runic kiln
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additive

quartz barn
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Because mult would be broken

runic kiln
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yeah

radiant ice
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Question is, is stamina +3 even worth on my build that can spam telekine shield

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Cause deflector isn't that useful there

runic kiln
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additive cause its off your "base" max hp, not your modified max hp after curios

quartz barn
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And you still need stam to push

radiant ice
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Eww, duelling sword

tacit stump
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i usw force sword on psyker instead i like deimos more

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even if it has less mobility

radiant ice
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I hop between all 3 force swords and the knife

tacit stump
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obscurus...

radiant ice
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I know the Obscurus is crap in comparison, but as a playtest player I sometimes get nostalgic XD

runic kiln
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yeah ik what you mean with that

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i tried the obscurus again today and ๐Ÿคฎ

tacit stump
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they should rework obscurus or buff it

radiant ice
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I used it for so long before that sometimes I use it out of comfort]

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It is painfully weak though

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Def needs a buff

tacit stump
radiant ice
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I mean who cares

tacit stump
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maybe you

radiant ice
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In a week no one will use Force Swords, Duelling Swords or anything else on Psyker

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Unless they are a heretic

tacit stump
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force greatsword lets goooo

runic kiln
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o right new stuff yeah?

radiant ice
runic kiln
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slick

tacit stump
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i ask if it gonna have normal mobility or slow

jade summit
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voidblast or voidstrike?

runic kiln
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im hoping slow on charge attacks or smth atleast

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to feel CHUNKY

radiant ice
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My favourite is Voidblast

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This is my favourite weapon in the whole game

runic kiln
jade summit
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๐Ÿ‘

radiant ice
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Honestly, use the loadout feature

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Make a build for each

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Swap as desired

runic kiln
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loadouts are SO GOOD

plucky flax
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Not blaze trauma staregryn

radiant ice
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The choices staregryn

quartz barn
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Rending trauma staregryn

radiant ice
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Auric Storm's crusher deleter

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Saved my party's ass multiple times

quartz barn
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Saw someone run it a couple days ago and they only did 240k dmg staregryn

radiant ice
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Ah I don't have the scoreboard mod

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Should get it

quartz barn
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Get ovenproof too

tacit stump
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ovenproof?

quartz barn
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Scoreboard extension

runic kiln
quartz barn
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Also fixes a calculation bug

tacit stump
radiant ice
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Is Toughness Regen worth on Psyker?

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I feel like it's kinda covered by talents already but since I'm running Empiric Resolve on some builds, may help

cyan portal
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toughness regen is unfortunately just bad, for technical reasons

radiant ice
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Explain them ๐Ÿ˜›

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I know it only works with coherency

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But at the same time, I'm never away on my own in Auric as a Psyker

runic kiln
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i think it stops the passive regen whenever you actively regen, from kills / Perilgen if you have those. i might be wrong but i remember that being a thing for a while

cyan portal
radiant ice
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How tf did I run out of Diamantine

compact cargo
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Coherency uses to be goated

radiant ice
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Did they reduce the rates with Unlocked and Loaded? XD

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First time that's ever happened XD

tacit stump
echo root
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You should always have BB when using purgatus so you can get Wildfire and Psyk Aura

tacit stump
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i hope they buff empowered psyionics and bb

radiant ice
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Buff Empowered?

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It's insane

tacit stump
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empowering souls from only elites to elites and specials or would that be crazy

compact cargo
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When compared to other classes

radiant ice
tacit stump
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there your diamantine goes

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thats why i leveled most masteries through playing beside by double shotgun, shredder pistol, flamer, powermaul and recon las cause by recon las i accidently solled my gold variant

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recon las it fun though

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i use it on my vet

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feels like a toy though

runic kiln
radiant ice
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I love the shredder

tacit stump
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the only reason i leveled combat shotgun was cause of the slug variant

runic kiln
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also only getting one shot of special feels wack

tacit stump
tacit stump
runic kiln
runic kiln
radiant ice
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Shredder can be pulled out in half a second though

tacit stump
tacit stump
compact cargo
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Fellow psykers, thoughts on auto solver?

tacit stump
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auto solver?

cyan portal
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Don't need auto solver, that's what teammates are for..

compact cargo
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Mod that hacks for you hands off keyboard (for tree and train)

summer prairie
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it's a cheat but barely helps

runic kiln
compact cargo
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At max settings it's 3 seconds on tree and about 10 on train

tacit stump
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... who needs that

compact cargo
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A lot of people apparently

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It's getting quite common (it's very noticeable)

tacit stump
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tree is quick when you know what to do

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you swap points until white glow instead of red and press it

plucky flax
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All mods are cheat

tacit stump
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i use qol stuff

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some of the stuff should have been already implemented

radiant ice
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I only use quick chat

runic kiln
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i wish it had steamworkshop mods usable lmao, always the easiest

marble crater
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Mod that solves the puzzle for you is a bit much KEKW_ogryn

radiant ice
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Yeah that's straight cheating XD

tacit stump
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i mean i can more clear see how manny sharges are left by ammo boxes or health stations, numeric ui, color codes stims by teammate, seeing better the grenade types with different icons

runic kiln
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it could be a disability assist type thing, but idk what id want the specs to be for that in terms of time to completion etc

marble crater
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I could understand colorblind mods for that, but what disability let's you play the actual game but then the puzzle is suddenly too much loregryn

summer prairie
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at least it's the kind of cheat that helps the whole team equally

runic kiln
tacit stump
runic kiln
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reminds me of people that used mods for L4D2 that made the specials just NEON GLOWING LIGHTS and then tried to argue that it was balanced cause they just like the vibe.

radiant ice
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lmao

marble crater
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Yeah no KEKW_ogryn

radiant ice
summer prairie
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yes

radiant ice
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Also I have vision issues, the worst is fucking Lights Out modifier

summer prairie
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slightly bigger gameplay impact

radiant ice
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Point is, poor excuse for a skill issue cheat

compact cargo
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Gameplay impact is too big on it

summer prairie
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It's not an excuse, just a reason why it wouldn't bother me all that much if someone was using it

runic kiln
radiant ice
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Eh yeah doesn't affect me much in my games if someone was to run it, it's just definitely a cheat

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And considering how nice ObeseFish are about mods that aren't cheats, I'd rather not have it around before we get an all or nothing policy put in place

tacit stump
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i use chatblock cause i had it in vermintide 2 aswell as official setting why did they not carry it on

compact cargo
runic kiln
summer prairie
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I thought they implemented official chatblock at some point, doesn't seem to be there now though

runic kiln
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same reason why vt2 had issues that they fixed in vt1

radiant ice
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Still, Darktide was released over 2 years ago

tacit stump
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yeah thats what most off my mods patch back in

radiant ice
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They've had time XD

tacit stump
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that is the point

runic kiln
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oh yeah i agree but just mentioning incase people didnt know

summer prairie
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or was it V2 that got the feature, maybe that's it

radiant ice
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The time between Darktide's launch and now is longer than many games entire development

tacit stump
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has darktide spaghetti code?

radiant ice
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It's Fatshark

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It's more like noodle soup at this point

tacit stump
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so it is worse?

radiant ice
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(Love the guys and their games but damnnn)

radiant ice
tacit stump
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i like ramen though

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and i like fs games they scratch the itch are there any similar games

radiant ice
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Left 4 Dead

tacit stump
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more meele oriented?

radiant ice
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Fun fact, Left 4 Dead 2 could have been made twice over since Darktide launch

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As it took 11.5 months of development

tacit stump
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macabre but you know that valve makes no 3

radiant ice
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Proof that Gabe is an Ogryn, he can only count to 2

marble crater
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Just count Back 4 Blood as part 3

radiant ice
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ew no

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L4D 1&2 are some of the best games made, B4B is on the opposite list XD

marble crater
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I enjoyed it, but I also never played L4D KEKW_ogryn

radiant ice
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It's incredible how backwards B4B is compared to L4D2

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Like it needs studied

runic kiln
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yeah b4b is just WACK in comparison

radiant ice
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I've never seen a falloff like that

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And I remember when EA games were quality

paper harbor
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b4b is kinda mixed in between

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i played, is nice

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specially i shoot lmg fun fun

compact cargo
blissful solar
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that is what that one video says

paper harbor
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crowbat viewer

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they follow crowbat

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i may believe they buy the game play few minute or near 2 hour then put bad review instantly

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sure is a lite review bombing

blissful solar
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b4b is honestly actually not very good though

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probably a 7/10 at best

quartz barn
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Ign certified thumbsup_ogryn

radiant frigate
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siblings can you believe it only 8 days until force greatsword!!

zinc phoenix
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What I canโ€™t believe is that itโ€™s only a few more days til I get four days off ๐Ÿ˜‚

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I mean Iโ€™ll still be the running dog of big baby but maybe I get some sleep and a couple games in!

nocturne dust
tired phoenix
spice veldt
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they're the same yeah

nocturne dust
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The only staff with a unique lmb is Inferno

tired phoenix
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Ah, okay.

mental rock
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surge lmb is slightly different only because of the different stats on the staff

tired phoenix
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So how important is LMB for those then? Should I just focus on the charge? ๐Ÿค”

nocturne dust
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LMB is generally not needed on staves

tired phoenix
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Oh, okay.

nocturne dust
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I only use it for single targets on occasion

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or snipers if they are out of range of rmb

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(so never the latter case on voidstrike KEKW_ogryn )

tired phoenix
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Do you generally want to fully charge them or just spam, then? Or is it a case-by-case basis?

nocturne dust
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Trauma wants full charges, but half charges are okay to stagger and play defensively when you need it

mental rock
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generally fully charge

nocturne dust
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EK is generally full charges

tired phoenix
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Trauma is... Voidblast?

nocturne dust
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Voidstrike is complex

nocturne dust
mental rock
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voidblast you mid-charge if you go blaze build

tired phoenix
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Right. Still trying to get the hang of the old names.

marble crater
nocturne dust
mental rock
nocturne dust
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Still full charge with blaze build

quartz barn
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I only use lmb to finish off specials when i dont kill them with rmb

mental rock
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you mid-charge quell cancel for optimal blaze trauma output

nocturne dust
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No

mental rock
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yes

quartz barn
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No reason to full charge

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Soulblaze charges are capped anyway

nocturne dust
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Yes, soulblaze stacks are capped.

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Is radius?

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Is direct damage?

quartz barn
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But mid charge is way faster?

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Also if you midcharge there wont be enough enemies to make full charge impactful

mental rock
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the reason you midcharge quell cancel with blaze trauma is because you want to maintain as high peril as possible and you dont have flurry in order to speed up charging. also, the radius of the blaze procs on trauma is rather large even with mid charge

quartz barn
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Unless you keep attacking corpses

nocturne dust
quartz barn
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Crit?

nocturne dust
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You can do that with full charges

radiant frigate
quartz barn
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Dev blog on dec 3

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
mental rock
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you essentially speed up your attack speed without sacrificing damage

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because the blaze proc radius is huge

nocturne dust
radiant frigate
nocturne dust
radiant frigate
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more area covered = more murder

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because you want to engage in sloppy casting

mental rock
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you can keep doing that if you want, but its more dps to just mid-charge quellcancel

nocturne dust
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I'ma need some real numbers for such a claim. loregryn

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But I'm going to sleep now. Testing for tomorrow I guess. Sitgryn

tired phoenix
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Well, thanks for the explanation โ€” even if it did start something. Lurkgryn

nocturne dust
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Anyway, you're at the very least fine to full-charge Trauma even in aurics

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Inferno wants full charges (maintaining blaze away isn't that good which you can do with rapid rmbs) and Voidstrike is highly dependent on a lot of things. Generally, full charge into big groups but if it's a single target... try to figure it out KEKW_ogryn

tired phoenix
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Alright, I'll go experiment a bit. Thanks!

tired phoenix
nocturne dust
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Mmmm well good luck. Psyker is probably the worst class for beginners.

tired phoenix
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There's at least a lot of things to learn that the game doesn't tell me.

compact cargo
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psyker doesn't teach bad habits atleast ^^

nocturne dust
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Yes. Much of the game is (hidden) knowledge, or knowledge that the game straight up lies to you about

tired phoenix
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Knowledge brings us closer to annihilation.

nocturne dust
left basin
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god i need the gs right now

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my scriestrike is about to be complete

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mmmmmalefic

radiant frigate
spice veldt
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the good ol days of infinite dodge force swords rotting my brain

radiant frigate
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me on zealot realizing that punishment makes me "uninterruptible" at max stacks so i can exchange my death resist to secure a res

quartz barn
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Going back to psyker will be weird after wep specialist vet

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No more double attack speed Sitgryn

olive ember
olive ember
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I can't play ogryn for shit lmao

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I think half a week ago I hadn't even finished the achievement to beat all mission types on malice as an ogryn.

quartz barn
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Ogryn is incredibly easy

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It does force you to dodge slide a lot to properly dodge but even then

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Infinite toughness and stack up on hp curios for 500+ hp

radiant frigate
haughty star
tired phoenix
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Ah okay, I had been running Assail up to this point, but thought I should start getting acquainted with more of the game's mechanics. I'll just keep at it until then, though I much prefer running Dome over Vent. ๐Ÿ˜…

haughty star
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Than run dome, not that important at low diff, vent is just massive crowd control and gives you a "oh shit" button for if you're getting overwhelmed or about to pop

tacit stump
runic juniper
nocturne dust
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Meaning, 0 points.

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(You don't even need the main vent ability node, it's base base vent)

tacit stump
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oh

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nvm didn't read it for a eternity

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1 point was peril generation reduction for 5s and 2 points was damage direct or dot

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maxed it always to soulblaze route

young summit
tacit stump
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cc shockwave

young summit
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I suppose. Just feels like a weird jump for a build that's only building peril with assail.

spice veldt
thorn cedar
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any adults up right now

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oh arco is here

flint pawn
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I was wondering why Dueling Sword felt so uncomfortable on my Psyker and it turns out mine has 60 mobility instead of 80

thorn cedar
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i have a sad but dark and somewhat pressing social question

spice veldt
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exploits jumpscare

thorn cedar
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roommate's cat died last night, like three or four hours ago

spice veldt
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oh man

thorn cedar
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we have to dispose still. should i wake her up?

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cant hold onto him too long

flint pawn
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You probably should

spice veldt
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mmm, either options are just bad
I assume the smell is just going to get bad depending on how hours left

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i guess wake her up, and give her some time to sober up before telling?

thorn cedar
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she knows he passed so

spice veldt
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oh

thorn cedar
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im not delivering the news yea

spice veldt
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ah so just the matter of disposing of the body

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alright that makes things marginally better

thorn cedar
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marginally yea lmao

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we have him outside in a container

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but its a shared storage space

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yea we didnt have a lot of options at 5am

spice veldt
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i'd personally wake her up if it's being stored in a shared space

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thought i am also the type of person that you shouldn't go to for social questions

thorn cedar
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nah its just outside perspectives

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i overthink

spice veldt
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same

thorn cedar
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i also havent slept so

spice veldt
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i'd just hope she'd be understanding that the corpse will eventually smell

haughty star
spice veldt
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don't worry about it meow

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people switching channels getting flashbanged by that sentence

thorn cedar
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poor guy, man

nocturne dust
thorn cedar
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nah

thorn cedar
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well yes there is

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but too late now

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and no we didnt want that mental association

nocturne dust
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Lol

spice veldt
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yeah i was worried about the association

echo root
nocturne dust
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Look when I said I was going to sleep

nocturne dust
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I meant I would try to

echo root
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Go to sleep lil bro

nocturne dust
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My body will not let me Sitgryn

echo root
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Have a look at melatonin if you can get it without a prescription

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It's what your brain produces when the sun goes down

nocturne dust
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I actually can't take medicine for my insomnia KEKW_ogryn

echo root
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It's a hormone produced by your body, but it probably doesn't help with insomnia Sadge

nocturne dust
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Such is life.

late sphinx
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Melaton-Melaton-Med-Medic-Medikay

echo root
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No medi.. med... medic.... medicae

nocturne dust
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I am also sick which makes it more fun

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Nurgle needs to tone it down

young summit
young summit
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Shrieking just to shriek isn't a virtue

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Especially since you described it as an "Oh shit" button

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But there really shouldn't be "Oh shit" moments with peril with only assail

nocturne dust
marble crater
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I shriek for the voice lines

young summit
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I'm listening

nocturne dust
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Shriek is a virtue because it's unholy amounts of horde clear

flint pawn
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what's meta blessings for inferno

nocturne dust
patent mango
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8 days remain.......

flint pawn
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thanks

echo root
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+1 to what void said

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Drop warp res

young summit
flint pawn
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Time to actually use Inferno and not my Carapurg meme

nocturne dust
young summit
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One sec

echo root
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or flak + maniac

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or flak + unyield

young summit
echo root
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(I do flak 0 crit)

flint pawn
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it does damage to bosses?

nocturne dust
flint pawn
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you have my attention

echo root
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Purgatus has great boss damage unironically

nocturne dust
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One of the better ways for Psyker to do boss damage

flint pawn
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it is my sacred rule of thumb

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if I have a weapon that can get away with Unyielding, Unyielding is on it

nocturne dust
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In fact it's better than dumping the highest RoF recon iirc

echo root
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Just do carap + unyield on DS4 and flak + crit on purga

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IMO

nocturne dust
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Soulblaze inherits current weapon perks (and uncanny)

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so typically you soulblaze the boss, then switch to uncanny + unyielding ds4

flint pawn
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Makes sense

nocturne dust
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Boss explodes into burnt confetti

nocturne dust
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Although sometimes I just stay on purg to deal with the ads.

young summit
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The Manchurian Catdidate

nocturne dust
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Also, Penetrating Flames replacing Warp Nexus is better for boss damage but in a weird way

flint pawn
nocturne dust
nocturne dust
flint pawn
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but then don't you lose the power

nocturne dust
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On the soulblaze, yes, but you gain uncanny

celest valve
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flak: armored rager, like every single ranged enemy, most Mauler hit zones not the head, gunners I think, armored melee enemies, uh like more

nocturne dust
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and you have sword with uncanny and unyielding

flint pawn
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oh that would do it lol I don't have uncanny on this one

nocturne dust
flint pawn
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let me switch

nocturne dust
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You do need to switch back to staff to maintain stacks every now and then

celest valve
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maniac afaik would be all specialists I think right

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and not armored ragers

nocturne dust
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iirc hound is infested

flint pawn
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okay yeah I'm seeing the dps increase now

celest valve
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true but hound dies to a light sneeze

nocturne dust
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I mean, yes, all the specialists that matter HP-wise are maniac if I'm not mistaken

hollow jolt
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yeah weirdly the scab flamer and bomber are 100% maniac

flint pawn
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alright time to go into auric mael with this build that I slapped together

hollow jolt
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despite their armor

flint pawn
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I will return after throwing the match

hollow jolt
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you really can't be worse than the average pub player

celest valve
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also tend to take 3x melee damage

hollow jolt
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so you're fine

flint pawn
hollow jolt
nocturne dust
hollow jolt
nocturne dust
flint pawn
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I mean this was my second run ever using recon on my vet so I'm sure I'll be okay

hollow jolt
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shield ogryn is good at overall damage

flint pawn
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btw speaking of recon

nocturne dust
flint pawn
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is the argument for recon over vraks on gunpsyker the ammo?

nocturne dust
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The argument is you like recon and hate recoil

flint pawn
zinc phoenix
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Heavy hitter loyal protector shieldgryn goes pretty hard

hollow jolt
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yeah Vraks is better if you're on target

zinc phoenix
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All the stuff comes to you for infinity cleave

nocturne dust
hollow jolt
zinc phoenix
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Yep

nocturne dust
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but I didn't examine their build too closely

zinc phoenix
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Itโ€™s so easy to play because infinite cleave + infinite stagger + you donโ€™t have to move, baddies come to you

flint pawn
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I really need to get a mobility dueling sword I hate this 80% cleave one so much

zinc phoenix
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  • you can just shield up to not get tickled to death by shooter .
nocturne dust
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They were animation cancelling on shield faster than I can do it.

arctic sorrel
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hi is this good?

radiant frigate
hollow jolt
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Mobility too high

arctic sorrel
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๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป

nocturne dust
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It's one of the weapons.

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Replace shred with headtaker, dump mobility

flint pawn
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this might be a dumb question but are soulblaze kills counted as warp attack kills for Soulstealer?

hollow jolt
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warp attack

radiant frigate
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kill them with kindness? wrong, warp attack psyker_chaos

flint pawn
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alright I'm going in with this eldritch horror wish me luck

nocturne dust
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Get rid of the purple toughness node staregryn

radiant frigate
flint pawn
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inferno

nocturne dust
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Grab perfect timing

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Do it

flint pawn
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isn't Mettle bugged

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with purgatus

nocturne dust
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Perfect Timing

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Mettle is whatever

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Even Warp Expenditure is better on Purg when it doesn't work KEKW_ogryn

hollow jolt
flint pawn
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Perfect Timing is neat but I don't wanna give up the other stuff I have to get to it :(

flint pawn
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actually wait I don't need Kinetic Flayer on this do I

nocturne dust
flint pawn
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that's just a remnant of my soulblaze trauma

nocturne dust
#

smh my head

#

I mean KF is still good on Inferno.

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Not as good as on Trauma tho

haughty star
#

Shriek is just free damage dude lol. It doesn't have to be a "wildfire build" to make shriek good.

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Actually it's got everything involving soulflame other than wildfire lol

hollow jolt
young summit
#

I'm not saying Shriek is bad

nocturne dust
#

Goes to global cap of 31

hollow jolt
#

ah ok wasn't sure

young summit
#

But how is Scrier's not better

#

In this case, that is

nocturne dust
young summit
#

Let me reply to it again

quartz barn
#

Would agree ye

young summit
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Idk I guess it isn't wrong, but I don't see why you would pick shriek on gun psyker

quartz barn
#

However

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This was a reply to a levelling build

lyric hatch
young summit
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Shriek, for Gun Psyker in this case

quartz barn
#

So obv whoever would be using it wont be good at managing high peril

nocturne dust
# young summit This one

Oh, for a gunker? Eh, depends. Shriek can be helpful for horde clear, Scrier's is just more gun damage which you may or may not want.

quartz barn
#

Even if scriers doesnt kill you

nocturne dust
#

For example if you use, heaven forbid, ๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธistol, Shriek is probably better

flint pawn
nocturne dust
#

why are you not taking warp rider

quartz barn
#

Get rid of kd wtf

flint pawn
#

:(

lyric hatch
quartz barn
#

Waste of points smh

nocturne dust
nocturne dust
young summit
#

Brutal

nocturne dust
quartz barn
#

Literally a 3 point waste

flint pawn
#

I mean I do have a stam curio so I guess kd can go

nocturne dust
lyric hatch
nocturne dust
#

You want the crit node

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And you want warp rider

#

It ain't no souldrinker

lyric hatch
nocturne dust
#

Get rid of the purple toughness node

flint pawn
#

nu I need my tough

nocturne dust
#

Also warp battery is eh

nocturne dust
flint pawn
#

Warp Battery I can agree with tbh

young summit
#

Plenty of toughness regen up top tbh

nocturne dust
#

Yep, you should have plenty toughness regen up top. More down below will not help you in almost every case where you're actually proccing it.

flint pawn
#

you know what just for telling me to get rid of purple toughness node

#

there we go

#

every toughness perk

nocturne dust
#

Toughness ain't going to save you from snipers or poxbursters.

young summit
#

Now take kinetic flayer because it's funny

clear heath
#

essence harvest isn't worth it

flint pawn
#

alright 5% crit you're getting the axe

young summit
#

I'm out here giving non-advisable advice

#

Do not ever listen to me

#

This is a warning

nocturne dust
flint pawn
#

full send the toughness

nocturne dust
flint pawn
#

I mean

lyric hatch
#

The goofy ag build I use

flint pawn
#

if I used shield I COULD get away with dropping empathic

clear heath
flint pawn
#

Inferno lol

clear heath
#

oh

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just use the

#

last point on either soulstealer or empathic evasion

nocturne dust
#

This is my actual build

young summit
#

Kinetic flayer present

#

Bad advice vindicated

nocturne dust
#

Even with mettle broken I find it perfectly fine on Aurics KEKW_ogryn

upper sun
#

KF is god now

young summit
#

I'm memeing, I know it's a good pick

upper sun
#

wildfire is sketchy but agent picks it

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so i am not allowed to talk shit

flint pawn
#

yeah

#

it only counts a critical hit when using the staff once I think

#

something like that

nocturne dust
summer prairie
#

once per target

nocturne dust
#

no

#

It is once per attack

summer prairie
#

it can definitely proc multiple times on a single charge

nocturne dust
#

On Inferno?

summer prairie
#

yes

nocturne dust
summer prairie
#

It's possible I've false memories but I definitely tested it when the change was made

analog agate
#

That means it is like it was before nerf? Only on inferno?

summer prairie
#

not like before

marble crater
#

That's sad, no more full toughness from a single trauma blast

nocturne dust
#

It definitely only procs on the first hit of rmb

flint pawn
#

it is once per target I can confirm

#

just tried it

summer prairie
#

even if it works as I described it only procs once if you are shooting at a boss

nocturne dust
summer prairie
#

see once per target

flint pawn
#

proc'd a crit on one individual crusher, redirect to a pack of crushers and it jumped from 1 mettle to 3 mettle, all in the same RMB

summer prairie
#

but it's direct damage procs so you aren't cleaving

nocturne dust
flint pawn
#

let's find out

flint pawn
nocturne dust
#

More things for me to experiment with

#

I already forgot the thing I was supposed to experiment with before

flint pawn
#

And it does regenerate toughness if you proc it past already having 3 stacks too

analog agate
#

This must be an inferno only thing haha. Cause it isnโ€™t like that on blast staff

summer prairie
#

on trauma it doesn't work at all

flint pawn
#

conclusion, fatshark has favoritism for inferno

marble crater
flint pawn
#

on another note

#

actually getting this thing to crit to test this was a lot more annoyign than I thought it would be

marble crater
#

To be fair, we already knew that when they renamed trauma into voidblast

nocturne dust
#

Rename Voidstrike to trauma

tulip kettle
#

It's still twitter

#

Not x

#

It's still trauma and purgatus and surge

marble crater
#

For staves that's even fine, but if you talk about columnus now it's a different mark, for some reason I still don't understand

hollow jolt
#

yeah its real bad for the Vets because Fatshark fucked up the names

nocturne dust
tulip kettle
#

What EK acronym

nocturne dust
#

THE EK acronym, mortal.

tulip kettle
#

I think you mean surge staff, buddy

nocturne dust
#

Every staff has surge except inferno, wat u mean

flint pawn
#

surge inferno when

tulip kettle
#

Now

nocturne dust
#

So it can work on 0 attacks

tulip kettle
#

Purgatus has surge built in, no?

nocturne dust
#

no?

tulip kettle
#

I mean

hollow jolt
#

at least with the staff name changes, you can reasonably guess which is which staff :p

tulip kettle
#

I get ceit

flint pawn
#

windfury weapon built in too so you left click shoot out 20 fire cloud puffs and crash the game

tulip kettle
#

Crit*

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I add 2 stacks

#

Seems like surge to me

nocturne dust
#

direct damage tho

hollow jolt
#

while technically not the same, its close enough for me

#

as the direct damage is like 30-40? for purg

nocturne dust
#

Direct damage on purg is actually decent

#

It really adds up

tulip kettle
#

I proc the effect of me attacking twice on a crit, therefore it's surge. I'm available to represent anyone at their criminal defence hearings on request.

radiant frigate
#

๐Ÿ…ฑ๏ธurgatus

flint pawn
#

alright now it's build testing time, see you guys after I throw

hollow jolt
#

I'm sure you can beat that

radiant frigate
flint pawn
hollow jolt
nocturne dust
tulip kettle
#

Showing my ass here but what's 3veg

nocturne dust
#

it should be way lower

radiant frigate
hollow jolt
#

I imagine its FAR faster now

radiant frigate
#

basically you are sent on a mission malnourished

nocturne dust
#

Dang, Fatshark can't even collect correct data

hollow jolt
tulip kettle
#

Also whichever the water mission with the winding staircase down at the start has surely caused some sub 2 min wipes I'm sure

nocturne dust
molten saddle
hollow jolt
#

1 barrel, 4 rejects UwU

nocturne dust
#

Just as the God Emperor intended

molten saddle
#

Ive seen some People saying surge on staff can be good for electro staff is that true?

tulip kettle
#

It's what I'm running rn

quartz barn
#

Lmb spam ftw

tulip kettle
#

With warp nexus and a crit build and lots of lmb spam

quartz barn
#

No it doesnt work on rmb Sitgryn

tulip kettle
#

But when you are 1 shotting ragers/gunners/shotguns with the lmb spam it does feel pretty good

radiant frigate
#

better to call it surge

patent mango
#

voidshock staff

flint pawn
#

I return

#

and I did in fact throw my match ๐Ÿ˜”

#

but 2 chaos spawns at once

#

anyways I should've played better

mossy oyster
#

I have had the displeasure of 3 cs at once

#

1 being real 2 being weakened and then a BoN showing up

flint pawn
#

I did my best

molten saddle
patent mango
#

voidburn staff

flint pawn
#

but one grabbed me and then a toxflamer appeared at the same time and that was that ๐Ÿ˜ญ

mossy oyster
#

Yeah itโ€™s not even the grab that kills you

flint pawn
#

that said this build rocks

mossy oyster
#

itโ€™s the shit thatโ€™s not supposed to be hitting you during the grab

flint pawn
#

by far the best build for inferno I've tried to use

mossy oyster
#

annoying

flint pawn
#

until the unfortunate end the only damage I took was an unfortunate dog while everyone was separated by a beast of nurgle

haughty star
#

Yeah inferno is good just boring for me

molten saddle
#

I
Love. Flame staff

flint pawn
#

I pretty much never ran out of toughness

molten saddle
#

Hold on i have that build๐Ÿคฃ

#

Why arent i using it

#

Im yet to see a plus 20% on tough

flint pawn
#

as of right now the most you're gonna see is 21% HP, 17% Toughness, and 3 Stamina

molten saddle
#

Thats poo

#

Never seen21 on hp

flint pawn
#

because it's that rare

#

but I have at least 3 on every character now I can confirm they're real lol

molten saddle
#

I have 2x17% on most

#

For tough and a cojple of 20+ hps

marble crater
#

That extra 1% is where it's at

molten saddle
#

I can imagine

#

Also side question

near wyvern
# flint pawn

I like the infernus build where you never run out of peril to use

molten saddle
#

The 20 consecutive headshots. Any tips for best weapons todo this with

near wyvern
#

Get a horde and start bowling

molten saddle
#

Hhmm ill havw to try i got to 18 earlier

near wyvern
#

But there are many ways to do it

molten saddle
marble crater
#

Maybe they changed it then, because that's how I got mine

quartz barn
quartz barn
#

Yup

#

Just aim a bit above head height so you dont clip bodies

molten saddle
#

How does that differ from the EK staff primary fire?

radiant frigate
#

because it is how i got it

marble crater
#

and a lot more damage

molten saddle
molten saddle
radiant frigate
#

if by primary fire you mean the little pew pews

#

same thing

#

except surge has more crit

#

if by primary fire you mean the actual thing you bring the staff for

#

very different

molten saddle
#

Yeah i mean the RT. Ok now that makes sense

#

Im xbox if that helps

#

Rt is primary fire

radiant frigate
#

so, charged cast or little pew pews?

molten saddle
#

Rt is pew pew. LT is hold for charged

radiant frigate
#

i see

marble crater
#

RT for staves other than inferno is the same

molten saddle
#

So PSwill probs be R2 for pew pew and Lt for charged

molten saddle
marble crater
#

(other than the stats from the staff itself)

marble crater
molten saddle
#

Ahhh ok๐Ÿคฃ

marble crater
#

Brain Burst should work though

molten saddle
#

So the void strike staff pew pew amd EK staff pew pew are the same

quartz barn
#

Infinite cleave staff special FS pls

marble crater
#

Yes, just more crit from EK stats

molten saddle
#

Ok

quartz barn
#

I cast bonk

molten saddle
#

I cast punch through๐Ÿคฃ

radiant frigate
#

el ectro kinetico

analog agate
#

Blast staff has infinite cleave. Just saying

molten saddle
#

Which

radiant frigate
#

circle of death

molten saddle
#

Oh

frail spear
#

Can someone explain cleave to me real quick? I had a friend who's new to the game asking about that stat last night and I couldn't explain it to him because I had no clue how it worked.

flint pawn
marble crater
flint pawn
#

Took a momentary break from learning Inferno because there was a mostly melee up and I love mostly melee

#

Trauma Staff W

marble crater
#

The more cleave, the more additional targets you can hit and damage

frail spear
marble crater
#

Then it also matters how much hitmass the different enemies have which more or less gets subtracted from your cleave. Maybe you can cleave 5 poxwalkers, but only 1 poxwalker and 1 rager for example. Numbers are most likely wrong, but you get the idea

frail spear
#

yeah, i did a little more research and finidng out hitmass is a thing is wild to me. it seems so overly technical for a horde shooter like this

molten saddle
#

Got to 18 outta 20

radiant frigate
marble crater
#

40k trademark

frail spear
#

understandable, honestly

spice veldt
#

the hitmass and cleave system is probably one of the more straightforward and reasonable systems in this game

#

i HATE this game's god damn finesse system, if only because the math is annoying

mossy oyster
#

id hate to do fatshark math

#

sorry for your loss

#

its already annoying trying to find specific niche interactions among blessings/weapons/talents

frail spear
#

too much math, i will simply pop heads

now let me ask a weapon question, as a psyker player, what's a reasonable dump stat on the nomanus surge staff? quell speed?

mossy oyster
#

so whoever does the math

#

props

spice veldt
#

not me cuz i'm staying away from the finesse system

mossy oyster
#

lmfao fair enough

marble crater
#

If you do the primary fire spam build then charge speed

upper sun
frail spear
spice veldt
#

eh, a crusher and a poxwalker having a different hitmass seems more reasonable than them being different

upper sun
#

yeah ofc

spice veldt
#

similarly, an eviscerator having more base cleave than a dclaw makes sense (fucking damage cap)

upper sun
#

its still not super straightforward

marble crater
spice veldt
#

it's not straightforward in the sense that the information is not exposed to the players very well or at all

#

but the system itself is straightforward

upper sun
#

yeah not many people are gonna dig through the code to find actual formulas

#

i still want an actual stagger system in the game tho

#

pushing an enemy on the ground shouldnt make them jump back up to a lower stagger state

frail spear
marble crater
#

Nice thumbsup_ogryn

patent mango
#

force greatsword

marble crater
#

loregryn if they are not that big in the game, I will blame you for my disappointment

patent mango
#

thats the secret skin for it

hollow jolt
#

you have to pay 2401 aquilla for it UwU

patent mango
#

9000 aquila great greatsword skin

upper sun
#

tbh

#

i think im more hype for the possible second ever ogryn ranged weapon

patent mango
#

ogryn greatsword

thorn cedar
#

did we have a soublaze damage chart somewhere

#

i forget

#

er

#

armor values rather

#

oh wait i remember now

#

nvm

plucky flax
gritty gorge
#

anyone have tips on which blitz should i go for? I only just got enough points for that due to my issues with disconnects during missions

summer prairie
#

assail

mossy oyster
radiant frigate
#

do 1m with reconlas

plucky flax
mossy oyster
#

but you dont post that video

#

only lightning surge abusing

#

smh

#

fake bistol fan

radiant frigate
#

other ranged weapons have ceased to exist

#

now there is only reconlas..

tulip kettle
#

would love to see a recon las

plucky flax
#

I don't record every game. D:

tulip kettle
#

all i see is 3x revolver DS zealots and me crying

plucky flax
#

Mk12 recon is really cool.

#

The new Warp Unbound node is pretty much a must pick now if you are going to play with gaze. 10s of 100% peril for maximum cleave and damage. The latest hotfix also made it work properly with other staves.
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tulip kettle
#

i dont WANT to have to kill 600 shooters

mossy oyster
plucky flax
#

Ez cheating mods moment.

summer prairie
#

Don't think you ever went under 50% ammo in that video

plucky flax
#

No I am really considerate gun user.

summer prairie
#

Will have to play some recon, but it never felt that good to use, something you pull out when you are out of assail knives or there's a boss

plucky flax
#

Well any builds with assails automately mean assails are the main weapon. whatthefuck_heresy

#

At least with my scuffed playstyle.

#

Even when I play voidstrike I use assail way more.

summer prairie
#

well kind of but bistol makes immediate impact when you pull it out

marble crater
plucky flax
#

Bistol and mk12 recon both really cool. yesgryn

flint pawn
plucky flax
#

Friendship ended with vraks.

#

Ever since they buffed bistol damge I have not touched revolver at all on psyker also.

summer prairie
#

reloading takes too long

plucky flax
#

Bistol just feels 10000x cooler.

summer prairie
#

and not as generous headshots probably

#

way less ammo too

patent mango
#

bistol is fire

marble crater
#

How is bistol for quick special removal on zealot? loregryn better or worse than zarona

plucky flax
#

Hrm it's still good. Too bad martyrdom only increases melee damage.

#

I think it should increase range damage as well.

#

You're already on low hp as is.

mossy oyster
#

is already fail step number 1

#

cause the zarona is still stupid

patent mango
#

ever since bistol buff i havent used zarona lmao

#

bistol is cool gaming now

olive ember
#

Man normal damnation hi shock is probably harder than auric

#

because the fucking teammates

olive ember
#

Nah it aint the first, but fuck it baffles me how trash teammates are

#

Like i'm literally watching a guy get combo'ed by a single rager and its like "dude you should be learning how to fight ragers in like heresy"

gritty gorge
#

I once watched someone light an explosive barrel, stare at it while their character shouted about the imminent explosion, and then just stand there dead eyed until it blew up

marble crater
mossy oyster
#

fair enough

#

but no

#

zarona is still dumb

#

but alot of other guns have gotten better

#

in the mean time

marble crater
#

No bistol for my zealot then

plucky flax
#

I use it because it's cool.

primal veldt
#

Mmm, Bistol

plucky flax
#

Zealot has options though since you melee 95% of the time anyway. I also really like shotgun on my combat axe martyrdom build.

#

Good for specials and ogryns.

#

The kantrael.

marble crater
#

Time to play zealot later and test the buffed thammers, looks like crucis is better now?

craggy crest
#

the deflector perk for the blaze sword does not seem to work against any form of projectile

plucky flax
#

Do you have stamina?

marble crater
craggy crest
#

even with the kinetic perk it doesn't actually register as blocking any shots

spark thicket
#

Hey everyone, not sure if this is the right channel to ask, but anyone interested in doing/helping with Malleus Monstronum? EU region

marble crater
craggy crest
#

yes

rapid cliff
#

I do hope they add a plasma pistol, although they'd need to make it burst fire or a more riskier void strike just to avoid them being the same thing

olive ember
#

I make an amend to my statement. Auric damnation teammates aren't much better

marble crater
marble crater
#

Clad to the rescue

spark thicket
spark thicket
upper sun
upper sun
patent mango
marble crater
patent mango
marble crater
#

Hmm, fair

spark thicket
#

Is there a specific build to do it with?

#

Still pretty new to the game btw lol, got it from Humble a few days ago

upper sun
#

going double walls would help BB more

#

because the BB buff stacks from the walls

spark thicket
#

Oh I had no idea, switching it to that

upper sun
#

something like this

upper sun
spark thicket
flint pawn
gritty gorge
spark thicket
upper sun
#

no worries

craggy crest
#

Ainz helped me get that Malleus Monstronum penance yesterday. he's NASA though

upper sun
#

ainz helped me get twins hard mode

radiant frigate
craggy crest
#

bit too random with assail

#

often use melee perks and inferno with BB

plucky flax
radiant frigate
#

all aboard the reconlas train...

patent mango
#

psyker plasma pistol

haughty star
#

I love recon las but I love void

#

Different strokes

#

That one mission with the 8 flights of stairs you gotta go down its goated for

gritty gorge
#

what's recon las? i'm assuming void is voidstrike staff?

prime elk
#

recon lasgun

gritty gorge
#

thanks

prime elk
#

and yeah they're talking about voidstrike

craggy crest
#

seems to be primarily a quick elite killer

prime elk
#

it's a pretty good all-rounder, though skewed towards killing big things yeah

craggy crest
#

but imo the inferno has been very useful at both stunlocking most elites, including ragers

prime elk
#

inferno is stupidly good rn

craggy crest
#

in groups

#

with what it lacks in range, brain burst will just snipe anything

#

with psionics

#

kinetic flayer with the inferno staff...

fringe garden
#

Inferno is just baller atm. It just so casually deals with a wide variety of threats. Just leaves a few small gaps to be filled in with melee or blitz choices.

gritty gorge
#

i really enjoy staying on the backlines and sniping elites while my team takes care of the bigger hordes, though from my very little experience that requires a certain team comp

radiant frigate
#

inferno is certainly effective

fringe garden
#

Inferno even has respectable boss damage, which most staves struggle with

prime elk
#

probably too good right now lol

craggy crest
#

veteran is supposed to be that sniper role, but it just completely lacks a actual sniper option which psyker has multiple of

gritty gorge
#

honestly i'm shit at aiming or id play veteran

#

also i love all the beloved psyker voicelines too much

haughty star
#

And bigger aor

mental grail
#

When does the sword update drop?

#

4/12?

radiant frigate
craggy crest
#

tried the plasma when i was finishing up getting all classes to 30. plasma feels clunkier than void staff

radiant frigate
haughty star
haughty star
mental grail
#

lfg

craggy crest
#

illisi... has my favorite attack rotation

mental grail
#

My beloveds

craggy crest
#

but its special attack does very little

spice veldt
craggy crest
#

huh... did i just unlock image perms?

upper sun
#

yeah

gritty gorge
#

wait how i have rats that the pet tide channel is lacking

craggy crest
#

ratlings

#

pactsworn

#

as pets

gritty gorge
#

yeah? pet rats aren't too weird

shadow wigeon
#

I've been awaya for a year - I'm assuming the Obscurus never became good for anything?

craggy crest
#

feels weaker than the chainsword

#

illis standard attacks have been amazing so far with finesse

haughty star
loud slate
#

okay...I know the scoreboard is only for improvement

#

why I cant sent pictures

craggy crest
#

the draw of the other force swords and chainswords is that they can execute elites with a special animation

loud slate
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

craggy crest
#

just need to be active for a bit..

spice veldt
#

illisi's special is 10.5 cleave

loud slate
#

okay yeah I was kinda bothered by the fact I keep getting lowest score on the team

spice veldt
#

i thought it would be 11.7 but i guess not

craggy crest
#

i've been cleaving like crazy without charging it even

broken carbon
#

with slaughterer up

craggy crest
#

that sounded a bit weird

broken carbon
#

u can cleave a lot

spice veldt
#

sweeping lights have 4.5 cleave and sweeping heavies have 6.5 cleave

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poxwalkers have 1.25 hitmass I think as reference? Either 1.25 or 1.5. I forgor

craggy crest
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and then there is the double shove that is much stronger