#psyker-class
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Suppose I should try the hybrid 1/1 on toughness and hp
i haven't try delfector blessing vs sniper
Doesn't work ๐
doesnt work
I found out last night from curiosity in a premade
why not, ogryn shield works
ogryn shield>deflector
...
i like hp for when i get destroyed randomly, and helps with resisting pox shit. double toughenss is better mathematicall if you never drop into hp/ go down
Hp because its a % increase, while stuff like burster dmg and corruption is a flat amount
additive or multiplicative?
Uhh not sure tbh
I only have the hp% on a single curio on psyk
And i literally build my ogryn curios yesterday
Probably additive however
additive
Because mult would be broken
yeah
Question is, is stamina +3 even worth on my build that can spam telekine shield
Cause deflector isn't that useful there
additive cause its off your "base" max hp, not your modified max hp after curios
Yes because weapons like ds only have 2 stam
And you still need stam to push
Eww, duelling sword
I hop between all 3 force swords and the knife
obscurus...
I know the Obscurus is crap in comparison, but as a playtest player I sometimes get nostalgic XD
they should rework obscurus or buff it
I used it for so long before that sometimes I use it out of comfort]
It is painfully weak though
Def needs a buff
gets reworked instead
I mean who cares
maybe you
In a week no one will use Force Swords, Duelling Swords or anything else on Psyker
Unless they are a heretic
?
force greatsword lets goooo
o right new stuff yeah?
Force greatsword/longsword
slick
i ask if it gonna have normal mobility or slow
voidblast or voidstrike?
Both are S tier
My favourite is Voidblast
This is my favourite weapon in the whole game
voidblast for up close protection/deletion. void strike if you wanna snipe gunners and snipers all day and lock hallways down. both are fun as imo
๐
loadouts are SO GOOD
Not blaze trauma 
Rending trauma 
Saw someone run it a couple days ago and they only did 240k dmg 
Get ovenproof too
ovenproof?
Scoreboard extension
yeah feels so good to save people from crusher last second with the GIGA stagger
Also fixes a calculation bug
does it work with other extension
Is Toughness Regen worth on Psyker?
I feel like it's kinda covered by talents already but since I'm running Empiric Resolve on some builds, may help
toughness regen is unfortunately just bad, for technical reasons
Explain them ๐
I know it only works with coherency
But at the same time, I'm never away on my own in Auric as a Psyker
i think it stops the passive regen whenever you actively regen, from kills / Perilgen if you have those. i might be wrong but i remember that being a thing for a while
I can't link pages but check out kuli's curio guide on steam if you wanna learn more it's very good!
also I'm illiterate and misspelled exhilarating blagh
How tf did I run out of Diamantine
Coherency uses to be goated
Did they reduce the rates with Unlocked and Loaded? XD
First time that's ever happened XD
did you sacrafice lv a lot by your weapon masteries?
You should always have BB when using purgatus so you can get Wildfire and Psyk Aura
i hope they buff empowered psyionics and bb
empowering souls from only elites to elites and specials or would that be crazy
When compared to other classes
Oh and yeah, recently returned
there your diamantine goes
thats why i leveled most masteries through playing beside by double shotgun, shredder pistol, flamer, powermaul and recon las cause by recon las i accidently solled my gold variant
recon las it fun though
i use it on my vet
feels like a toy though
oh yeah i was trying to use shredderpistol earlier. damn that thing just spits paper at the enemies
I love the shredder
the only reason i leveled combat shotgun was cause of the slug variant
i wish the fire shotty was better hahah
also only getting one shot of special feels wack
use the vraks mk5 infantry auto instead
mode switch would have been cool like by illisi
i just run braced autogun instead
yeah something like that would be very fun for sure
Shredder can be pulled out in half a second though
mk2 vraks or mk4 graia
revolver, heavy laspistol
Fellow psykers, thoughts on auto solver?
auto solver?
Don't need auto solver, that's what teammates are for..
Mod that hacks for you hands off keyboard (for tree and train)
it's a cheat but barely helps
dogshit
At max settings it's 3 seconds on tree and about 10 on train
... who needs that
tree is quick when you know what to do
you swap points until white glow instead of red and press it
All mods are cheat
I only use quick chat
i wish it had steamworkshop mods usable lmao, always the easiest
Mod that solves the puzzle for you is a bit much 
Yeah that's straight cheating XD
i mean i can more clear see how manny sharges are left by ammo boxes or health stations, numeric ui, color codes stims by teammate, seeing better the grenade types with different icons
it could be a disability assist type thing, but idk what id want the specs to be for that in terms of time to completion etc
I could understand colorblind mods for that, but what disability let's you play the actual game but then the puzzle is suddenly too much 
at least it's the kind of cheat that helps the whole team equally
could be a vision thing man idk. everyone has different stuff ๐
i allow teammates to grab more heals and ammo and grenades through that, and i ping them those
reminds me of people that used mods for L4D2 that made the specials just NEON GLOWING LIGHTS and then tried to argue that it was balanced cause they just like the vibe.
lmao
Yeah no 
I mean so would a cheat that insta killed all enemies on the map
yes
Also I have vision issues, the worst is fucking Lights Out modifier
slightly bigger gameplay impact
Point is, poor excuse for a skill issue cheat
Gameplay impact is too big on it
It's not an excuse, just a reason why it wouldn't bother me all that much if someone was using it
for the hack thing? id be fine to like... average out how long hacks take and use that as the auto-complete i think
Eh yeah doesn't affect me much in my games if someone was to run it, it's just definitely a cheat
And considering how nice ObeseFish are about mods that aren't cheats, I'd rather not have it around before we get an all or nothing policy put in place
i use chatblock cause i had it in vermintide 2 aswell as official setting why did they not carry it on
It saves about 3-4 seconds "looking" on suboptimal tree spots
It also shaves off 15-20 seconds in the ball minigame since it's 100% accurate
cause darktide was being made before that was normal in vt2
I thought they implemented official chatblock at some point, doesn't seem to be there now though
same reason why vt2 had issues that they fixed in vt1
Still, Darktide was released over 2 years ago
yeah thats what most off my mods patch back in
They've had time XD
that is the point
oh yeah i agree but just mentioning incase people didnt know
or was it V2 that got the feature, maybe that's it
The time between Darktide's launch and now is longer than many games entire development
has darktide spaghetti code?
so it is worse?
(Love the guys and their games but damnnn)
Yup
i like ramen though
and i like fs games they scratch the itch are there any similar games
Left 4 Dead
more meele oriented?
Fun fact, Left 4 Dead 2 could have been made twice over since Darktide launch
As it took 11.5 months of development
macabre but you know that valve makes no 3
Proof that Gabe is an Ogryn, he can only count to 2
Just count Back 4 Blood as part 3
I enjoyed it, but I also never played L4D 
yeah b4b is just WACK in comparison
some person say they may having blast or some say is dogshit (by judging the game details from Crowbat youtuber)
b4b is kinda mixed in between
i played, is nice
specially i shoot lmg fun fun
Valve carried left4dead
that is what that one video says
crowbat viewer
they follow crowbat
i may believe they buy the game play few minute or near 2 hour then put bad review instantly
sure is a lite review bombing
Ign certified 
siblings can you believe it only 8 days until force greatsword!!
What I canโt believe is that itโs only a few more days til I get four days off ๐
I mean Iโll still be the running dog of big baby but maybe I get some sleep and a couple games in!
Huh
Somebody made a gif of this for days 1-99. That there is commitment. Not a lot of commitment, but some.
Is there any difference in the LMBs for these two, or is it just the RMB charge that's different? Feels like the small balls are the same.
they're the same yeah
The only staff with a unique lmb is Inferno
Ah, okay.
surge lmb is slightly different only because of the different stats on the staff
So how important is LMB for those then? Should I just focus on the charge? ๐ค
LMB is generally not needed on staves
Oh, okay.
I only use it for single targets on occasion
or snipers if they are out of range of rmb
(so never the latter case on voidstrike
)
Do you generally want to fully charge them or just spam, then? Or is it a case-by-case basis?
Trauma wants full charges, but half charges are okay to stagger and play defensively when you need it
generally fully charge
EK is generally full charges
Trauma is... Voidblast?
Voidstrike is complex
yes
voidblast you mid-charge if you go blaze build
Right. Still trying to get the hang of the old names.
But how many days until weapon dev blog, sibling?
no
yes
Still full charge with blaze build
I only use lmb to finish off specials when i dont kill them with rmb
you mid-charge quell cancel for optimal blaze trauma output
No
yes
But mid charge is way faster?
Also if you midcharge there wont be enough enemies to make full charge impactful
the reason you midcharge quell cancel with blaze trauma is because you want to maintain as high peril as possible and you dont have flurry in order to speed up charging. also, the radius of the blaze procs on trauma is rather large even with mid charge
Unless you keep attacking corpses
I don't see how maintaining peril is relevant
Crit?
You can do that with full charges
i will have to scry some more
Dev blog on dec 3
It's not that much faster
i was not aware you ever midcharge it
you essentially speed up your attack speed without sacrificing damage
because the blaze proc radius is huge
You don't, this is a travesty ๐ญ
and it gets bigger with full charge
You very much sacrifice damage
you can keep doing that if you want, but its more dps to just mid-charge quellcancel
I'ma need some real numbers for such a claim. 
But I'm going to sleep now. Testing for tomorrow I guess. 
Well, thanks for the explanation โ even if it did start something. 
Anyway, you're at the very least fine to full-charge Trauma even in aurics
Inferno wants full charges (maintaining blaze away isn't that good which you can do with rapid rmbs) and Voidstrike is highly dependent on a lot of things. Generally, full charge into big groups but if it's a single target... try to figure it out 
Alright, I'll go experiment a bit. Thanks!
I'm still finding my bearing in Malice, Auric is a long ways away. 
Mmmm well good luck. Psyker is probably the worst class for beginners.
There's at least a lot of things to learn that the game doesn't tell me.
psyker doesn't teach bad habits atleast ^^
Yes. Much of the game is (hidden) knowledge, or knowledge that the game straight up lies to you about
Knowledge brings us closer to annihilation.
Me on Vet realizing I don't have infinite blocking and pushes:
me on zealot realizing "no, actually, i cannot get that res safely"
the good ol days of infinite dodge force swords rotting my brain
me on zealot realizing that punishment makes me "uninterruptible" at max stacks so i can exchange my death resist to secure a res
Going back to psyker will be weird after wep specialist vet
No more double attack speed 
โฆ I just realized now that was the reason why I sometimes can just ignore enemies while on a terminal or some shit
Ogryn gaming 
I can't play ogryn for shit lmao
I think half a week ago I hadn't even finished the achievement to beat all mission types on malice as an ogryn.
Ogryn is incredibly easy
It does force you to dodge slide a lot to properly dodge but even then
Infinite toughness and stack up on hp curios for 500+ hp
eat 7 bursters and live
If you're leveling just grab a gun and assail and do this until you're 30. Staves suck ass until you get the mastery maxed
Ah okay, I had been running Assail up to this point, but thought I should start getting acquainted with more of the game's mechanics. I'll just keep at it until then, though I much prefer running Dome over Vent. ๐
Than run dome, not that important at low diff, vent is just massive crowd control and gives you a "oh shit" button for if you're getting overwhelmed or about to pop
and with 1 point in you can avoid explosion even if you hit 100%
I keep forgetting that and wondering why my toggle to hold is still getting the revive off
Base vent lets you avoid explosions.
Meaning, 0 points.
(You don't even need the main vent ability node, it's base base vent)
oh
nvm didn't read it for a eternity
1 point was peril generation reduction for 5s and 2 points was damage direct or dot
maxed it always to soulblaze route
I thought that was TWBS
Why run venting shriek on a build that barely generates peril?
cc shockwave
I suppose. Just feels like a weird jump for a build that's only building peril with assail.
it seems like both give stun_immune, conveniently enough
I was wondering why Dueling Sword felt so uncomfortable on my Psyker and it turns out mine has 60 mobility instead of 80
i have a sad but dark and somewhat pressing social question
exploits jumpscare
roommate's cat died last night, like three or four hours ago
oh man
You probably should
mmm, either options are just bad
I assume the smell is just going to get bad depending on how hours left
i guess wake her up, and give her some time to sober up before telling?
she knows he passed so
oh
im not delivering the news yea
ah so just the matter of disposing of the body
alright that makes things marginally better
marginally yea lmao
we have him outside in a container
but its a shared storage space
yea we didnt have a lot of options at 5am
i'd personally wake her up if it's being stored in a shared space
thought i am also the type of person that you shouldn't go to for social questions
same
i also havent slept so
i'd just hope she'd be understanding that the corpse will eventually smell
Assail is peril on tap lol drop 3 darts and blow vs
huh
don't worry about it meow
people switching channels getting flashbanged by that sentence
poor guy, man
I recommend waking, but... there is the... fridge.
nah
Lol
yeah i was worried about the association
Look when I said I was going to sleep
Go to sleep lil bro
My body will not let me 
Have a look at melatonin if you can get it without a prescription
It's what your brain produces when the sun goes down
I actually can't take medicine for my insomnia 
It's a hormone produced by your body, but it probably doesn't help with insomnia 
Melaton-Melaton-Med-Medic-Medikay
No medi.. med... medic.... medicae
Right, but this doesn't look like a wildfire build or anything either.
Ew
Shrieking just to shriek isn't a virtue
Especially since you described it as an "Oh shit" button
But there really shouldn't be "Oh shit" moments with peril with only assail
well, actually-
I shriek for the voice lines
I'm listening
Shriek is a virtue because it's unholy amounts of horde clear
what's meta blessings for inferno
Blaze Away, Nexus
8 days remain.......
thanks
Eh, with the build that was posted even?
Time to actually use Inferno and not my Carapurg meme
One sec
Flak + crit
or flak + maniac
or flak + unyield
The one I replied to here
(I do flak 0 crit)
it does damage to bosses?
yes
you have my attention
Purgatus has great boss damage unironically
One of the better ways for Psyker to do boss damage
it is my sacred rule of thumb
if I have a weapon that can get away with Unyielding, Unyielding is on it
In fact it's better than dumping the highest RoF recon iirc
Soulblaze inherits current weapon perks (and uncanny)
so typically you soulblaze the boss, then switch to uncanny + unyielding ds4
Makes sense
Boss explodes into burnt confetti
Although sometimes I just stay on purg to deal with the ads.
The Manchurian Catdidate
Also, Penetrating Flames replacing Warp Nexus is better for boss damage but in a weird way
Genuine question, would soulblaze not do about the same if you just camped the staff to maintain the +40% power boost?
You want +crit chance on the staff with PF, so you can't take unyielding unless you abandon flak (which is one of the choices of all time) and the brittleness has a short duration so you mostly only get a benefit while hitting the boss with the staff, but it is better boss damage. Provided you don't have +unyielding on your non-PF staff.
Add a stabby single target sword on top
but then don't you lose the power
On the soulblaze, yes, but you gain uncanny
flak: armored rager, like every single ranged enemy, most Mauler hit zones not the head, gunners I think, armored melee enemies, uh like more
and you have sword with uncanny and unyielding
oh that would do it lol I don't have uncanny on this one

let me switch
You do need to switch back to staff to maintain stacks every now and then
iirc hound is infested
okay yeah I'm seeing the dps increase now
true but hound dies to a light sneeze
I mean, yes, all the specialists that matter HP-wise are maniac if I'm not mistaken
yeah weirdly the scab flamer and bomber are 100% maniac
alright time to go into auric mael with this build that I slapped together
despite their armor
don't die :D
I will return after throwing the match
you really can't be worse than the average pub player
also tend to take 3x melee damage
so you're fine
I have my moments
:c
Idk, depends on what difficulty avg we talking. Aurics are generally pretty okay.
meanwhile I had a Vet with less specialists/elite kills than a shield ogryn :c
Bro, I had a chad shieldgryn out-damage me
Granted I was running a memey build but it was still Psyker
I mean this was my second run ever using recon on my vet so I'm sure I'll be okay
yeah but not specialists/elites
shield ogryn is good at overall damage
btw speaking of recon
true
is the argument for recon over vraks on gunpsyker the ammo?
The argument is you like recon and hate recoil
Kek back or heavy hitter?
Gotcha. I stay with Vraks then
Heavy hitter loyal protector shieldgryn goes pretty hard
yeah Vraks is better if you're on target
All the stuff comes to you for infinity cleave
He had a taunt iirc
funny damage and bleed c:
Yep
but I didn't examine their build too closely
Itโs so easy to play because infinite cleave + infinite stagger + you donโt have to move, baddies come to you
I really need to get a mobility dueling sword I hate this 80% cleave one so much
- you can just shield up to not get tickled to death by shooter .
> Dodges off cliff
They were animation cancelling on shield faster than I can do it.
hi is this good?
hi no
๐๐ป
this might be a dumb question but are soulblaze kills counted as warp attack kills for Soulstealer?
si
warp attack
kill them with kindness? wrong, warp attack 
alright I'm going in with this eldritch horror wish me luck
Get rid of the purple toughness node 
what loadout is this for
inferno
Perfect Timing
Mettle is whatever
Even Warp Expenditure is better on Purg when it doesn't work 
funny times with psyker tree...
Perfect Timing is neat but I don't wanna give up the other stuff I have to get to it :(
actually wait I don't need Kinetic Flayer on this do I
Come on, you ain't even taking wildfire
that's just a remnant of my soulblaze trauma
Lol what
Shriek is just free damage dude lol. It doesn't have to be a "wildfire build" to make shriek good.
Actually it's got everything involving soulflame other than wildfire lol
doesn't the wildfire from shrike ignore the 16 stack cap from the staff?
si
I'm not saying Shriek is bad
Goes to global cap of 31
ah ok wasn't sure
I still don't have context 
Let me reply to it again
This one
Would agree ye
Idk I guess it isn't wrong, but I don't see why you would pick shriek on gun psyker
Better than what
Shriek, for Gun Psyker in this case
So obv whoever would be using it wont be good at managing high peril
Oh, for a gunker? Eh, depends. Shriek can be helpful for horde clear, Scrier's is just more gun damage which you may or may not want.
Even if scriers doesnt kill you
For example if you use, heaven forbid, ๐ ฑ๏ธistol, Shriek is probably better
is this better
Get rid of kd wtf
:(
Why is it so flat
Waste of points smh
Ew
Bad, die
Brutal

Literally a 3 point waste
I mean I do have a stam curio so I guess kd can go
1 point
Wong
Maybe get rid of the warp kill perk up top, better yet the dodge on crits
Get rid of the purple toughness node
nu I need my tough
Also warp battery is eh
Bad crutch
Warp Battery I can agree with tbh
Plenty of toughness regen up top tbh
Yep, you should have plenty toughness regen up top. More down below will not help you in almost every case where you're actually proccing it.
you know what just for telling me to get rid of purple toughness node
there we go
every toughness perk
Toughness ain't going to save you from snipers or poxbursters.
Now take kinetic flayer because it's funny
essence harvest isn't worth it
what do I even drop for it in this context
alright 5% crit you're getting the axe
I'm out here giving non-advisable advice
Do not ever listen to me
This is a warning
๐คฎ
I don't mind that one actually
I mean
The goofy ag build I use
if I used shield I COULD get away with dropping empathic
what weapon is this for?
Inferno lol
Even with mettle broken I find it perfectly fine on Aurics 
KF is god now
I'm memeing, I know it's a good pick
Mettle is broken? 
yeah
it only counts a critical hit when using the staff once I think
something like that
Doesn't proc on Trauma rmb, only procs on first hit of Inferno rmb
once per target
it can definitely proc multiple times on a single charge
yes

It's possible I've false memories but I definitely tested it when the change was made
That means it is like it was before nerf? Only on inferno?
not like before
No
That's sad, no more full toughness from a single trauma blast
It definitely only procs on the first hit of rmb
even if it works as I described it only procs once if you are shooting at a boss
Unnerf mettle and true aim ๐ญ
see once per target
proc'd a crit on one individual crusher, redirect to a pack of crushers and it jumped from 1 mettle to 3 mettle, all in the same RMB
but it's direct damage procs so you aren't cleaving
But does it regen toughness
let's find out
It does, in fact, regen toughness

More things for me to experiment with
I already forgot the thing I was supposed to experiment with before
And it does regenerate toughness if you proc it past already having 3 stacks too
This must be an inferno only thing haha. Cause it isnโt like that on blast staff
on trauma it doesn't work at all
conclusion, fatshark has favoritism for inferno

on another note
actually getting this thing to crit to test this was a lot more annoyign than I thought it would be
To be fair, we already knew that when they renamed trauma into voidblast
For staves that's even fine, but if you talk about columnus now it's a different mark, for some reason I still don't understand
yeah its real bad for the Vets because Fatshark fucked up the names
I like the EK acronym.
What EK acronym
I think you mean surge staff, buddy
Every staff has surge except inferno, wat u mean
surge inferno when
Now
Purgatus has surge built in, no?
no?
I mean
at least with the staff name changes, you can reasonably guess which is which staff :p
I get ceit
windfury weapon built in too so you left click shoot out 20 fire cloud puffs and crash the game
direct damage tho
while technically not the same, its close enough for me
as the direct damage is like 30-40? for purg
I proc the effect of me attacking twice on a crit, therefore it's surge. I'm available to represent anyone at their criminal defence hearings on request.
๐ ฑ๏ธurgatus
alright now it's build testing time, see you guys after I throw
in 2023, the fastest wipe was 2 minutes, 18 sec
I'm sure you can beat that
eldritch knight force staff
I think I've already beaten this on clandestium gloriana 3veg
hell yeah already breaking records UwU
There's no way that's true
Showing my ass here but what's 3veg
it should be way lower
3 servings of vegetables per day
it was from the 2023 data sheet from Fatshark for the anniversary
I imagine its FAR faster now
basically you are sent on a mission malnourished
to be fair, it was pre-snow map
Also whichever the water mission with the winding staircase down at the start has surely caused some sub 2 min wipes I'm sure
That hasn't stopped the pubs
The what
it sure made them faster though lmao
1 barrel, 4 rejects UwU
Just as the God Emperor intended
Ive seen some People saying surge on staff can be good for electro staff is that true?
It's what I'm running rn
Lmb spam ftw
With warp nexus and a crit build and lots of lmb spam
No it doesnt work on rmb 
But when you are 1 shotting ragers/gunners/shotguns with the lmb spam it does feel pretty good
voidshock staff
I return
and I did in fact throw my match ๐
but 2 chaos spawns at once
anyways I should've played better
I have had the displeasure of 3 cs at once
1 being real 2 being weakened and then a BoN showing up
I did my best
How did i not see that as
voidburn staff
but one grabbed me and then a toxflamer appeared at the same time and that was that ๐ญ
Yeah itโs not even the grab that kills you
that said this build rocks
itโs the shit thatโs not supposed to be hitting you during the grab
by far the best build for inferno I've tried to use
annoying
until the unfortunate end the only damage I took was an unfortunate dog while everyone was separated by a beast of nurgle
Yeah inferno is good just boring for me
Whats the build?
I
Love. Flame staff
Hold on i have that build๐คฃ
Why arent i using it
Im yet to see a plus 20% on tough
because it's not possible
as of right now the most you're gonna see is 21% HP, 17% Toughness, and 3 Stamina
because it's that rare
but I have at least 3 on every character now I can confirm they're real lol
That extra 1% is where it's at
I like the infernus build where you never run out of peril to use
The 20 consecutive headshots. Any tips for best weapons todo this with
I did it with void (the ball shooter)
Get a horde and start bowling
Hhmm ill havw to try i got to 18 earlier
But there are many ways to do it
Brain Burst blitz
I did 20
Didmt get it
Maybe they changed it then, because that's how I got mine
If you line it up properly you can get it in a single shot with voidstrike
The voidstrike staff?
How does that differ from the EK staff primary fire?
was it 20 casts or 20 kills
because it is how i got it
Voidstrike ball has a loooooot of cleave
and a lot more damage
Kills
No way! Thats a thing
if by primary fire you mean the little pew pews
same thing
except surge has more crit
if by primary fire you mean the actual thing you bring the staff for
very different
Yeah i mean the RT. Ok now that makes sense
Im xbox if that helps
Rt is primary fire
so, charged cast or little pew pews?
Rt is pew pew. LT is hold for charged
i see
RT for staves other than inferno is the same
So PSwill probs be R2 for pew pew and Lt for charged
Except the cleave or crit thingy
(other than the stats from the staff itself)
I thought you mean how is RT different from LT + RT
so no cleave there, sorry
Ahhh ok๐คฃ
Brain Burst should work though
So the void strike staff pew pew amd EK staff pew pew are the same
Infinite cleave staff special FS pls
Yes, just more crit from EK stats
Ok
I cast bonk
Bro imagine cleave 80/80 on staff
I cast punch through๐คฃ
el ectro kinetico
Blast staff has infinite cleave. Just saying
Which
circle of death
Oh
Can someone explain cleave to me real quick? I had a friend who's new to the game asking about that stat last night and I couldn't explain it to him because I had no clue how it worked.
I mean venting shriek I find is enough peril tbh
Cleave let's you hit through a target, very simple explanation 
Took a momentary break from learning Inferno because there was a mostly melee up and I love mostly melee
Trauma Staff W
The more cleave, the more additional targets you can hit and damage
Okay makes sense. I figured that's what it was but I wasn't sure.
Then it also matters how much hitmass the different enemies have which more or less gets subtracted from your cleave. Maybe you can cleave 5 poxwalkers, but only 1 poxwalker and 1 rager for example. Numbers are most likely wrong, but you get the idea
yeah, i did a little more research and finidng out hitmass is a thing is wild to me. it seems so overly technical for a horde shooter like this
Got to 18 outta 20
"unnecessarily complicated" is a fatshark trademark
40k trademark
understandable, honestly
the hitmass and cleave system is probably one of the more straightforward and reasonable systems in this game
i HATE this game's god damn finesse system, if only because the math is annoying
id hate to do fatshark math
sorry for your loss
its already annoying trying to find specific niche interactions among blessings/weapons/talents
too much math, i will simply pop heads
now let me ask a weapon question, as a psyker player, what's a reasonable dump stat on the nomanus surge staff? quell speed?
not me cuz i'm staying away from the finesse system
lmfao fair enough
Warp resistance
If you do the primary fire spam build then charge speed
thats saying something isnt it tho
warp resistance just determines how fast you increase your peril when using the staff, right?
eh, a crusher and a poxwalker having a different hitmass seems more reasonable than them being different
yeah ofc
similarly, an eviscerator having more base cleave than a dclaw makes sense (fucking damage cap)
its still not super straightforward
Yes, it doesn't scale very high, unlike quell speed
it's not straightforward in the sense that the information is not exposed to the players very well or at all
but the system itself is straightforward
yeah not many people are gonna dig through the code to find actual formulas
i still want an actual stagger system in the game tho
pushing an enemy on the ground shouldnt make them jump back up to a lower stagger state
mmm makes sense. i think i have a perfect roll then!
Nice 
force greatsword
if they are not that big in the game, I will blame you for my disappointment
thats the secret skin for it
you have to pay 2401 aquilla for it UwU
9000 aquila great greatsword skin
ogryn greatsword
did we have a soublaze damage chart somewhere
i forget
er
armor values rather
oh wait i remember now
nvm
I expected 1 mil especially as lone psyker. 
anyone have tips on which blitz should i go for? I only just got enough points for that due to my issues with disconnects during missions
assail
now do 1M with a bistol
do 1m with reconlas
I have.
would love to see a recon las
I don't record every game. D:
all i see is 3x revolver DS zealots and me crying
Mk12 recon is really cool.
The new Warp Unbound node is pretty much a must pick now if you are going to play with gaze. 10s of 100% peril for maximum cleave and damage. The latest hotfix also made it work properly with other staves.
Patch 1.5.3
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i dont WANT to have to kill 600 shooters
then i guess it never happened................
Yes it's fake and I have modified scoreboard to give me 1.5x damage. 
Ez cheating mods moment.
Don't think you ever went under 50% ammo in that video
No I am really considerate gun user.
Will have to play some recon, but it never felt that good to use, something you pull out when you are out of assail knives or there's a boss
Well any builds with assails automately mean assails are the main weapon. 
At least with my scuffed playstyle.
Even when I play voidstrike I use assail way more.
well kind of but bistol makes immediate impact when you pull it out
Fake YouTuber
Bistol and mk12 recon both really cool. 
It wasn't on the auric board so it wasn't as intense as it usually is :(
Friendship ended with vraks.
Ever since they buffed bistol damge I have not touched revolver at all on psyker also.
reloading takes too long
Bistol just feels 10000x cooler.
bistol is fire
How is bistol for quick special removal on zealot?
better or worse than zarona
Hrm it's still good. Too bad martyrdom only increases melee damage.
I think it should increase range damage as well.
You're already on low hp as is.
comparing anything to a zarona
is already fail step number 1
cause the zarona is still stupid
Man normal damnation hi shock is probably harder than auric
because the fucking teammates
Nah it aint the first, but fuck it baffles me how trash teammates are
Like i'm literally watching a guy get combo'ed by a single rager and its like "dude you should be learning how to fight ragers in like heresy"
I once watched someone light an explosive barrel, stare at it while their character shouted about the imminent explosion, and then just stand there dead eyed until it blew up
I wasn't here for a few months, things could have changed on that front 
fair enough
but no
zarona is still dumb
but alot of other guns have gotten better
in the mean time
No bistol for my zealot then
I use it because it's cool.
Mmm, Bistol
Zealot has options though since you melee 95% of the time anyway. I also really like shotgun on my combat axe martyrdom build.
Good for specials and ogryns.
The kantrael.
Time to play zealot later and test the buffed thammers, looks like crucis is better now?
the deflector perk for the blaze sword does not seem to work against any form of projectile
Do you have stamina?
ye

even with the kinetic perk it doesn't actually register as blocking any shots
Hey everyone, not sure if this is the right channel to ask, but anyone interested in doing/helping with Malleus Monstronum? EU region
That doesn't sound right. You are actively blocking, right? 
yes
I do hope they add a plasma pistol, although they'd need to make it burst fire or a more riskier void strike just to avoid them being the same thing
I make an amend to my statement. Auric damnation teammates aren't much better
I can help later after dinner, right channel would be #vox-lfg-emea
yes
running the game now
Clad to the rescue
Gotcha, thank you - I probably won't be online later in the evening but thank you anyway
Awesome thanks!
smh i dont take the food from your mouth
do you have a build ready?
Why? 
why not
Hmm, fair
Kind of, I'm just running electro+knife with fast BB and shriek
Is there a specific build to do it with?
Still pretty new to the game btw lol, got it from Humble a few days ago
Oh I had no idea, switching it to that
something like this
whenever you're ready press esc then social then find player and use the number in my name
Awesome, thanks again - just copied that build, on my way
I love power point presentations
I think my computer would spontaneously combust again
Thanks once again! ๐
no worries
Ainz helped me get that Malleus Monstronum penance yesterday. he's NASA though
ainz helped me get twins hard mode
when i use void i barely touch assail
You should. Better horde and shooters clear. Probably elites too xd
then again i also no longer play void
all aboard the reconlas train...
psyker plasma pistol
I love recon las but I love void
Different strokes
That one mission with the 8 flights of stairs you gotta go down its goated for
what's recon las? i'm assuming void is voidstrike staff?
recon lasgun
thanks
and yeah they're talking about voidstrike
seems to be primarily a quick elite killer
it's a pretty good all-rounder, though skewed towards killing big things yeah
but imo the inferno has been very useful at both stunlocking most elites, including ragers
inferno is stupidly good rn
in groups
with what it lacks in range, brain burst will just snipe anything
with psionics
kinetic flayer with the inferno staff...
Inferno is just baller atm. It just so casually deals with a wide variety of threats. Just leaves a few small gaps to be filled in with melee or blitz choices.
i really enjoy staying on the backlines and sniping elites while my team takes care of the bigger hordes, though from my very little experience that requires a certain team comp
inferno is certainly effective
Inferno even has respectable boss damage, which most staves struggle with
probably too good right now lol
veteran is supposed to be that sniper role, but it just completely lacks a actual sniper option which psyker has multiple of
honestly i'm shit at aiming or id play veteran
also i love all the beloved psyker voicelines too much
Its really good at hording in line up situations too. Think plasma but slower wind up and unlimited ammo
And bigger aor
Helbore would like to know your location
tried the plasma when i was finishing up getting all classes to 30. plasma feels clunkier than void staff
only 8 days!!
I've been meaning to ask if you know if voidstrikes blast radius is the ball size
December 2
illisi... has my favorite attack rotation
My beloveds
but its special attack does very little
i don't know unfortunately
besides saying that you can probably assume that to be true (if you mean the epicentre radius)
huh... did i just unlock image perms?
yeah
wait how i have rats that the pet tide channel is lacking
yeah? pet rats aren't too weird
I've been awaya for a year - I'm assuming the Obscurus never became good for anything?
feels weaker than the chainsword
illis standard attacks have been amazing so far with finesse
Illisi special gives you unlimited cleave lol
the draw of the other force swords and chainswords is that they can execute elites with a special animation
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just need to be active for a bit..
illisi's special is 10.5 cleave
okay yeah I was kinda bothered by the fact I keep getting lowest score on the team
i thought it would be 11.7 but i guess not
i've been cleaving like crazy without charging it even
with slaughterer up
that sounded a bit weird
u can cleave a lot
sweeping lights have 4.5 cleave and sweeping heavies have 6.5 cleave
poxwalkers have 1.25 hitmass I think as reference? Either 1.25 or 1.5. I forgor
i think 1.25
and then there is the double shove that is much stronger
