psyker-class

[tulip kettle]

but the staff renames make me puke. and omg

[patent mango]

i've only thought about force greatsword for the last 5 days

[round gull]

is it also force sword?

OMG

I NEED IT

[patent mango]

theres another greatsword

but its for zealot so it wont really change much tbh

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-gorgeous-gif-20062297

[clear heath]

I've been playing illisi meleeker as a final sendoff until new force sword comes and replaces it forever

[patent mango]

im just so ready to forget other melee weapons

[haughty star]

Meleeker is assailker is gunker is meleeker

[patent mango]

nah meleeker gonna be real soon

[tired estuary]

I hope force gs is strictly worse than ds so certain people can just ask "what's the point" until the next balance patch

[patent mango]

also meleeker doesnt really need assail tbh

[patent mango]

scary......

[clear heath]

Illisi meleeker doesn't need assail as much, because you can fuel malefic with just the sword

[zinc phoenix]

ABSOLUTELY HARAM OPINION

[clear heath]

but i still rather bring assail over smite

[tulip kettle]

hot take, smite is actually great

[patent mango]

i literally only take smite for cdr malefic

smite is great to use in elevators for a cool light show

but thats about it

[thorn cedar]

smite is pretty great

[tulip kettle]

i dont often use smite

[thorn cedar]

what isnt great is the current implementation

[tulip kettle]

but when i do

[zinc phoenix]

smite gunker is a curse upon the human race

[tulip kettle]

its just whats needed

[patent mango]

well maybe they should just gimme cdr with assail then

[tulip kettle]

know what i mean

[clear heath]

I would but I just don't wanna put the points into it

[patent mango]

i'd take assail over smite every time if it gave me both sides of tree

[radiant frigate]

ok and

[clear heath]

plus it's my only build that i would consider assail for, so might as well use it

[radiant frigate]

i get to slice heretic with magic sword (BIG) and throw psychic knives at those not yet in reach

[clear heath]

pathing smite/bb to grab PA is literally 4/5 of my builds

[radiant frigate]

i have some backup for big targets that rarely sees the light of day

it is splendid

it is a thing of beauty

[clear heath]

wait actually no, 2 are BB and 2 are smite

[wind jay]

I use smite in only the most dire of cases - like when a lone poxwalker is shambling towards me at an alarming walking pace.

[tulip kettle]

smite in hunting grounds is awesome

team brain off mode

[clear heath]

I don't really find smite fun but it's useful to have

[tulip kettle]

BB is for fun

smite is for builds where i dont need anything or to abuse CDR on hunting grounds

which is also fun

[radiant frigate]

toasty dog mode

[clear heath]

I mostly don't run hunting grounds

waiting for dogs to finish is kinda just annoying

[zinc phoenix]

It’s fun to spam who let the dogs out whenever the dogs come

I’m pretty sure that’s 90% of why I do that mode

[fiery stratus]

This ones a repost but it's classic

Classic ai director shit

[calm sapphire]

smite diff

[olive ember]

Speaking of smite is there any reason why you would smite a boss

[patent mango]

not really

[haughty star]

To kick everything around it maybe?

[patent mango]

maybe if a massive horde is around a boss?

[broken carbon]

no, the damage is really insignificant on a boss

and you’ll never stagger it

[haughty star]

Like I'll smite sometimes during that one assassination if it gets crazy enough or if I'm on my smiteker cuz that's just kinda what ya do

[fiery stratus]

But I need assail crutch so I can lazily dump it at gunners and ragers

[patent mango]

smite is most useful during train tbh

since its worth to stall ther if its faster

[olive ember]

Just wanted to make sure thx lol

Now I know I am justified when I start baby raging over a psyker using smite on a boss

[radiant frigate]

never seen this

except surge

[analog agate]

I have. It is the same people who love playing support psykers

[radiant frigate]

truly diabolic

[haughty star]

I generally don't pay attention enough to my meatshields to care

[olive ember]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/767830966856974337/1293978655944609852/image.png?ex=6744aa88&is=67435908&hm=5e95fc13fe2ea7f53f675b685631990ffd92833941c2fbf6ee27a9c9d7ee07da&

[patent mango]

strongest smite vs weakest pogryn

[broken carbon]

i have

[analog agate]

Don’t know how you cannot notice…

You don’t have that perfect doorway that you are prepared to funnel the new incoming horde through?
The horde is about to approach. You are about to swing.

The horde then gets smited in spread out position. A shield bubble pops up. Guy yells “Don’t worry! I’m supporting you!”

[broken carbon]

me with a dclaw excited to fight a rager pack

they get smited.

euuuugh

i have a few clips of that

[olive ember]

I hate smite but it is def kinda dumb how EP smite its just “yeah everyone stop moving”

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-mortalltest-gif-22576948

[olive ember]

Also yeah as a guy who runs dueling sword and deathblow hsword on zealot. The amount of fucking times any sort of CC that makes the enemy move their heads has made me miss pisses me off

[calm sapphire]

any psyker that aint a gunker

[olive ember]

I still think the ogryn charge is the dumbest ngl.

The ogryn who charges through a fucking hoard of poxwalkers

[prime elk]

it's like smite dps at 6 stacks, which assume you've killed two elites

[radiant frigate]

sg psyker is the most honest flavor of psyker

[olive ember]

I’m hoping the force sword is good. I wanna run some goofy melee psyker that isn’t reliant on Scriers gaze

[calm sapphire]

Personally would rather see a support smiter than see a purgatus user

[olive ember]

Eh purge staff Psykers can atleast kill shit (generally speaking)

Tho the pug purge staff psykers I swear have like 3 braincells

“Fucking dude just melee the fucking hound, why the fuck are you lmb spamming”

[prime elk]

smykers actively fuck over melee builds in most instances

purgatus is fine, just visually annoying

[radiant frigate]

pugratus is snooze

[prime elk]

well tbf smite is too

so neither is winning in that category

[radiant frigate]

staff focused builds in general

big snooze

want force greatsword

neuron activation

[olive ember]

Bring back illisi greatness kekw

Playing zealot has made me trash on psyker

[prime elk]

just play a bonker build then

[round gull]

they nerffed Illisi?

[cosmic sigil]

yes

no more infinite dodges

[round gull]

NoOoooOOOoooOOOooO

[haughty star]

Because it's infinitely easier to stay alive in melee

[cold spruce]

playing assail scryers gun psyker would you change anything on this page?

and is deathspitter or firefrenzy better

[cosmic sigil]

deathspitter is power so dmg, stagger and cleave

[round gull]

Guys what does this man in a weapon?

[cosmic sigil]

the max you can empower is 80

currnetly you're at 65

[olive ember]

They nerfed slaughterer which was like the big blessing illisi used

[thorn cedar]

idk i love the energy in this photo

[round gull]

awww man

[round gull]

ohhhhhh

How do you see this for Illisi sword?

No empowered

[cosmic sigil]

good

i would go lower warp res tho

and better mob

[round gull]

Oh really?

lel

is it possible everything 80?

[cosmic sigil]

excellent

no

[round gull]

and what blessings do you recommend?

now you can modiffy everything?

Before there was a restriction of 2 modifications on weapons

[delicate dove]

"I like empyric resolve"

[haughty star]

Take away the extra assail penetrative point and put it into warp splitting.

Also correct me if I'm wrong but with this spread you'll be a point short for the extra dd stacks correct?

[haughty star]

Depends on the weapon tbh but if it's gotta be one of these blessings deathspitter is the GOAT

[delicate dove]

Uncanny strike, bloodthirsty, and slaughterer probably. Bloodthirsty is good for crit builds

[olive ember]

For pretty much every force sword you want warp res at 60 and everything else at 80 imo

[haughty star]

I would also move the point from kinetic deflection and into the right side lower perk

[round gull]

ohh i see,for now this is good enough

[haughty star]

Kd is a crutch and a res tool in gunkers case

[patent mango]

kd is jolly

[radiant frigate]

when

[patent mango]

a year ago? idk

[olive ember]

P13

[haughty star]

Its cool and all but not really necessary on gunker

[radiant frigate]

what was it before

[patent mango]

70%? mayb?

[olive ember]

Something like 20% power a stack

[patent mango]

it was wild

[radiant frigate]

juicy

can we have that back

[spice veldt]

75% max, 15% per stack

[round gull]

Maybe i should have asked this but, which force sword do you recommend for BR,is Illisi still the best option?

[radiant frigate]

funny deimos crusher oneshots incoming if so

[delicate dove]

jesus

[radiant frigate]

if you have headsplosion may aswell run illisi

[patent mango]

9 days

[radiant frigate]

real

[spice veldt]

peak balanced slaughterer

[quartz barn]

9 days and then we have 3 days to clear new content

after that poe2

[patent mango]

poe2 public release?

[quartz barn]

early access

[haughty star]

Psyker 2h sword better be good

Cuz shared dueling sword was a dogshit move

[patent mango]

i think they shared it specifically cause of 2h sword

[haughty star]

It was like psyker melee redeeming quality is WE HAVE DS

[patent mango]

its true

but maybe 2h sword is super wild

[olive ember]

I mean people are expecting dueling sword to get nerfed

[spice veldt]

eh oh well

[haughty star]

Ain't gonna happen

[spice veldt]

at least more people are complaining about the duelling sword nowadays

[olive ember]

That shit has like thammer special damage on its heavies

[spice veldt]

can't wait for it to be kneecapped

[cold spruce]

yeah I do

[haughty star]

Ds will not be kneecapped. People been crying for revolver and plasma nerfs and columnus nerfs for years and it just ain't gonna happen lol

Powercreep is reall

[spice veldt]

fatshark is just slow and has seemingly random priorities

stuff has been nerfed before

[cold spruce]

I like the assail version so I dont take all my teams ammo its nice

peril is just a bit rough

[spice veldt]

just a matter of when, even if it may take a year or more

[patent mango]

powercreep blast

[haughty star]

The warp splitting does more for assail pen then the penetrative node

And it helps your melee and gun too

[cold spruce]

ill try that out then thx

[olive ember]

On one hand ds4 is op af. But on the other hand the power trip of slide dodging through a hoard to one shot a crusher is kinda funny

[radiant frigate]

it's peak

trust

[patent mango]

peak

[olive ember]

Wonder what the zealot Psword will be like. Given that it seems to have a different activation mechanic than base pswords

[radiant frigate]

slices 5 crushers in one swing

[radiant frigate]

that will also be peak

[patent mango]

new dose of power creep

[olive ember]

Someone was hoping the psyker greatsword would be like the fucking moonlight greatsword and send out energy waves on special swings lmao

[radiant frigate]

many such cases

[spice veldt]

it'll send waves of terror down the backs of enemies

[patent mango]

i hope its moon greatsword

[jovial juniper]

It'll be worth its salt unpowered
Unlike vet's

[radiant frigate]

my guiding moonlight

my true mentor

[spark hazel]

Insert winnying noise here

[olive ember]

What are ogryns getting again?

[spark hazel]

Ogryns are getting new stubbers with a flashlight on them

[radiant frigate]

heavy stubber

[spark hazel]

and some actual accuracy iirc

[radiant frigate]

pre-si-jun instrument

[spice veldt]

ogryns are boutta steal the jobs of infantry vets

[olive ember]

🤔 I mean I’ll take it. I’m happy with the pickaxe on ogryn but the ranged options make me sad

[haughty star]

I just tried stubber glugger the other day and it made my pepee hard when I shot a boss with it

Jesus christ that's nutty

[olive ember]

I forgot is achyls or gorgo better stubber nowadays

[haughty star]

Achyls

[spark hazel]

I mean, I love my Achlys Twin Stubber. But the rippers in particular make me very sad. They just don't have the punch I'd expect

[jovial juniper]

Achlys is a pea shooter

Gorgon has no ammo

[olive ember]

I thought the rippers were meta at one point, besides the gorgon

[jovial juniper]

We don't talk about Krourk

[spark hazel]

Nah, it's a pee-shooter. The thing pisses metal. Works a treat with point blank barrage

[haughty star]

Yeah idk about achylys being a pee shooter lmfao

That shit fucking shreds

[prime elk]

luggers 🤮

[spark hazel]

Amen to that! Especially with the burn talent for PBB and Burst Limiter override talents

[spark hazel]

They hate us cuz they ain't us

[cosmic sigil]

i had 2 cursed runs

they did something to the spawns

[radiant frigate]

yeah so did we

nothing felt real after that burstertide

[haughty star]

Shits goated for twins hard mode

[prime elk]

that's right. nobody likes luggers, except for luggers themselves. i wonder why.

[spark hazel]

Seethe harder, why don'tcha

[prime elk]

fine there, though i'm talking about normal gamemodes

[prime elk]

no prob bro, i'll just keep running ahead and helping myself to the ammo

[haughty star]

If you actually only use the gun when your ult is up it's probably the most efficient ammo wise out there

One of anyway

[prime elk]

based on the way i've seen 100% of lugger ogryns play

that doesn't sound right

[spark hazel]

Sounds like confirmation bias to me

[prime elk]

just plain statistics bro

[haughty star]

Bolter zealots are the real problem lol

[spice veldt]

is this zealot vs ogryn war 2024

will we have another racism

[spark hazel]

Right. Anectodes count as statistics. Forgot that bit

[prime elk]

bolters in general can be pretty ammo hungry too

[haughty star]

Dudes burn through half their ammo reserve to help kill a boss and run 30mph to steal all the ammo lol

[prime elk]

oh using big words are we? smart for an ogryn

[radiant frigate]

bolter is stupid when people spam it

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/minor-spelling-mistake-gif-21179057

[haughty star]

Loyal and loving glugger uses one mag to straight delete a chaos spawn and no-one ever saves ammo for him

[fathom adder]

Revolver Zealots who use their gun on every regular shooter they can't be arsed to melee

[spark hazel]

God Emperor forbit

And yes, that was intentional

[fathom adder]

Actual fire selector switch when

[haughty star]

Yeah it's called aiming

[fathom adder]

Ain't nobody got time for that

[spark hazel]

That would be a great quality of life improvement for the bolter. And it would only come at the cost of the shove that no one uses on the gun

[radiant frigate]

why aim when you can just magdump anythign vaguely threatening

[frail harness]

Shove is okay for reload cancel when there's one basic enemy coming at you. Happens more than you'd expect

Really wish people who magdump bolter all the time would switch to agri brauto. It's actually what you want for that kind of playstyle

[clear bridge]

I don't have statistics for you, but as a Gunlugger main

...we eat ammo like mad

[spark hazel]

There are ways to mitigate it

[clear bridge]

I think I'm unusually ammo efficient

Yea if you play well it's not a big problem

I make sure my teammates get ammo

[nocturne dust]

agri brauto is my beloved

[clear bridge]

But I can't really recall a moment I've looked at an ammo pack as a Glugger and thought

"Nah I don't want that"

[prime elk]

Based

[prime elk]

same when i'm lugging

[spark hazel]

It's almost like you can have fun with a preferred - if not necessarily "meta" - playstyle, and still be a team player. Crazy

[frail harness]

When you absolutely, positively got to kill every motherfucker in the room

[radiant frigate]

but can agri brauto effectively magdump a boss

[frail harness]

When FS gives them Dum Dum 😭

[radiant frigate]

still not as juicy as the hilarious amount of bleed from puncture

i wonder if i should put blaze away on it

probably..

[spark hazel]

Yeah, my only gripe with that blessing is that it feels like a must-pick most of the time

[clear bridge]

Who said it's not meta

...eh, it's probably not meta lmao

Don't underestimate the Gunlugger tho

In the hands of a crack team of specialists its fringe benefits aren't the best

[spark hazel]

Bro, Gunlugger with an Achlys Stubber is my preferred way to play Ogryn. You're in good company lol

[frail harness]

I usually skip puncture on Bolt gun. Bistol though, that bleed gets you the one shot break point for several mobs

[clear bridge]

But an insanely sturdy gun platform with good melee capabilities- good to hear, my brother

Achlys kings must support each other

...Must is a strong word ofc

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[spark hazel]

Strong like Ogryn

[nocturne dust]

Agri brauto should be buffed until it can out-glugger a glugger

[spark hazel]

I'd love to see that, and then the new stubber totally outclass it

[nocturne dust]

Powercreep? In this economy? It's more likely than you think.

[prime elk]

i hope the new stubber is more ammo efficient

[spark hazel]

Based on the discription, it should definitely be, at least for longer range targets

[prime elk]

coping rn

we'll see

[spark hazel]

I'll say this much though, the new stubber having a light will make it a lot nicer for luggers going into dark missions

Because, correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think Ogryns have any light sources yet. This'll be the first

[olive ember]

Bro if you think power creep is bad in this game you should see hd2

That game got so fucking boring 2 months ago

Literally just press m1 and win simulator now

[thorn cedar]

it didn't creep so much as crushed

[prime elk]

yeah pretty sure this is the first

[spark hazel]

Yeah, I'll give FS that much. They do seem to be genuinely trying to keep the higher difficulties, well, difficult. At least to some degree. Though I do wish that some weapons got a bit more love in that regard

[prime elk]

aside from spamming explosions as a light source

[fathom adder]

"B-but how can you say the game is too easy if you won't even restrict yourself from using Mouse1?"

[spark hazel]

Big Boom: the best light source for all of .25 seconds

[frail harness]

Never played it, but from everything I've heard it seems like the devs stumbled into their success. Very good at satire and narrative; complete amateurs at game balance

[nocturne dust]

I dunno, I don't play HD2 but from what I heard they were actually over-balancing and killing all the fun in the game and then did an update that fixed things.

The player numbers at least seemed to agree with that

[olive ember]

The amount of fucking people who just say “just don’t use the OP weapons” and “just wait for d11”. When the game already has TEN FUCKING DIFFICULTIES

[olive ember]

They weren’t. People literally bitched over a weapon losing 2 reserve mags

[nocturne dust]

Again, I have no real context so I can't say much on the matter, I've just heard more than a couple people with a very different assessment of the situation than you.

[olive ember]

Just so you know how dumb the fucking balance decisions were. They literally reimplemented bugs to a weapon that made the weapon perform worse and people fucking cheered

[round gull]

Is deflector good for Illisi?

[olive ember]

The average hd2 player doesn’t have a clue how the game works and have zero balancing sense

[olive ember]

It’s meh. Not meta but it’s funny to block bullets

[nocturne dust]

Not meta. You can take it, but it's a comfort blessing.

[jovial juniper]

It's a comfort pick

[round gull]

I have uncanny 4

[frail harness]

You're effectively wasting a blessing slot

[nocturne dust]

Losing out on slaughterer or uncanny is harsh on Illisi

[jovial juniper]

You should pair with Slaughterer
Just saying

[round gull]

oh fine

[olive ember]

I mean those people have no idea what they are talking about then, imo

[round gull]

Btw,can i change so many time as I like the blessing? Before there was a limit of 2 modifications

[olive ember]

No limit now

[round gull]

oh god thanks

and what about the perks for Ilissi?

As I'm using it for hordes

[jovial juniper]

Good old Flakiac

[lethal lagoon]

Nah this is accurate, HD2 overnerfed and people realized there was nothing in the game that was worth overcoming that challenge, and the playerbase died off.

[jovial juniper]

[olive ember]

Lmao over nerfed

[jovial juniper]

Slaughterer will decimate hordes

[round gull]

I have a problem,I'm using BR inferno Illisi

[nocturne dust]

Not sure you should be dismissing differing viewpoints so readily but you do you 🤷‍♂️

[round gull]

Maybe Inferno Illisi is not a good combo

[olive ember]

It isn’t accurate at all. You had 10 fucking difficulties. Can’t handle having to flank a charger to deal with it? Turn the difficulty down

[lethal lagoon]

Imagine if the hardest bosses in Elden Ring only gave 1 rune and no achievement or boss weapon. How many people are going to do them?

The point is there was no motivation to play

[olive ember]

I’ve listened to said viewpoints for like 4 months in the hd2 discord

[lethal lagoon]

And the overnerf made that more apperent

[patent mango]

it was trying to be difficult when imo it doesnt have enough depth to also feel fair

[nocturne dust]

Generally Inferno staff is paired with a single-target like Deimos or Dueling Sword

because Inferno is the horde clear

[round gull]

yeah

[olive ember]

I do the hardest bosses in elden ring for the challenge and the experience? Hd2 now is them making the bosses die in 3 shots while also dumbing down the bosses mechanics

[lethal lagoon]

Yep, I agree.

[round gull]

Then I think I'll keep the sword as Deimos

What blessing for Deimos?

[lethal lagoon]

Even if that was true(it's not), you are a minority. And you would have been better served with a larger playerbase and them just adding more difficulties instead of heavy nerfs.

[olive ember]

Ah yes add more difficulties because 10 fucking difficulties weren’t enough.

I love these clown takes

[lethal lagoon]

Clown takes about a now clown playerbase

[olive ember]

The same takes from 4 months ago and 2 months ago and 1 month ago and last week

[lethal lagoon]

Fits right in

[nocturne dust]

Uncanny Slaughterer, same as Illisi

[round gull]

lmao

noice

[patent mango]

i hope force gs will have more balanced blessings lmao

[round gull]

i hope so

[thorn cedar]

"The problem with HD2 was a misinformed and shitty playerbase."
"Well according to (source of misinformation), you're wrong."

[round gull]

Because there are so meta bless and the others

[nocturne dust]

DID SOMEBODY SAY POWER CYCLER

[olive ember]

Lmao.

[patent mango]

warp cycler

[nocturne dust]

😭

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh
Uncanny Slaughterer
You get rending
He gets rending
Everybody gets rending

[patent mango]

I LOVE RENDINGGGGG

[nocturne dust]

Force sword should have rending built-in

[patent mango]

+100% rending aura

[nocturne dust]

"Could I be wrong? No, the people are at fault."

[olive ember]

I genuinely have like zero patience anymore for “omg hd2 was too heavily nerfed” anymore cuz it’s the same dumb fucking talking points.

Stupid fucking shit like “omg the devs ruined the game” over two fucking weapon nerfs, one of which one was a bug fix

[lethal lagoon]

Well don't worry, soon no one will have any opinion on HD2

[fathom adder]

Many such cases

[lethal lagoon]

Also, you understand that guy was making fun of you, not agreeing with you right?

Or did I read that wrong

[olive ember]

Depends on your point of view I suppose

[round gull]

what's the difference between Obscurus and Deimos?

[nocturne dust]

One is good

[olive ember]

Deimos is better

[nocturne dust]

the other is Obscurus

[round gull]

LOL

[fathom adder]

Deimos is good against single targets while the Obscurus is good at padding out the list of weapon marks

[round gull]

damm

Why is it worse?

[nocturne dust]

To note, don't use the special on deimos

Use h2

[round gull]

the special is the warp charged attack?

[nocturne dust]

h2 is more damage faster and safer than Deimos' special, and has stupid stagger

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[round gull]

oh

[patent mango]

whats obscurus never heard of it

[nocturne dust]

Deimos is the non-force force sword

[fathom adder]

It's supposed to be the middle of the road option between the Illisi and Deimos, but combines the worst aspects of both

[nocturne dust]

where you never actually want to use the force aspect

[round gull]

what a bad design then

[patent mango]

hopefully force gs is great design to make up for it

[nocturne dust]

Obscurus is just the original blade

[fathom adder]

I'm not surprised you haven't heard of it ||it's pretty obscure after all||

[nocturne dust]

Left behind

[spice veldt]

only thing that the obscurus needs really is just for the uppercut to be bumped up in damage

h1 is 1.7x damage of sweeping heavies compared to deimos's heavy stab which is 2x the damage of sweeping heavies

[patent mango]

its true...

[spice veldt]

the difference is not that big

[patent mango]

literally just give obscurus illisi special

[round gull]

What stats do I need for Inferno staff?

[fathom adder]

Or make the Obscurus / Deimos special actually worth using

[patent mango]

then it'd have a reason to exist

[nocturne dust]

dump warp res

[nocturne dust]

No, make it a toggle

[spice veldt]

give it 2h psword special

[patent mango]

its true.... but i'd rather have toggle on a cooler wep

maybe a force polearm

[olive ember]

Power cycler kekw

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-kill-you-tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-with-tim-robinson-angry-mad-gif-9099818194528470076

[patent mango]

warp cycler but make it last forever

[round gull]

Any important bles for Iinferno staff?

[nocturne dust]

blaze away, warp nexus is meta

Blaze Away is top tier by far

[patent mango]

fire staff
best blessing is blaze away

[nocturne dust]

Warp Nexus is alright. PF is 3rd best, but does better against bosses.

[round gull]

Oh I've got it just by leveling it up

and perks?

I imagine something for hordes

[patent mango]

uh

[nocturne dust]

I use flak and +crit chance but crit is whatever and you can switch it for unyielding/maniac

[nocturne dust]

no

It kills hordes already

Kill elites with it

[round gull]

oh

[nocturne dust]

[round gull]

Roasted heretics

[patent mango]

i hope they release wep blog tomorrow

maybe

[nocturne dust]

In fact, only thing Inferno doesn't handle is crushers

which is why you pair it with a single target melee

[round gull]

I have BR

Is not a problem

[nocturne dust]

BR?

[radiant frigate]

goated weapon suddenly

[round gull]

Brain Rupture

[patent mango]

its true

[nocturne dust]

eeeehhhhh

[olive ember]

BB but upgraded

[nocturne dust]

Ew

[radiant frigate]

brazil

[patent mango]

brain rupture is a name?

i didnt even know that

[radiant frigate]

i simply call i what it is

headsplosion

[patent mango]

brain blast

[round gull]

good name

[nocturne dust]

I have BB on my inferno build but I would recommend never pulling it out unless there's a sniper and your team is dead

[olive ember]

I remember when kinetic flayer was meta and you could get warp charges without expending them

[nocturne dust]

Sword is just waaaaaaaaayyyy faster

and BB just straight up takes too long

[patent mango]

i still played melee psyker back then

[round gull]

oh

Is not that good?

[patent mango]

then they removed blocking bullets while reviving lmao

[nocturne dust]

KF is meta again

[olive ember]

Fucking autopistol + illisi psyker was the shit

[patent mango]

true

[nocturne dust]

Well, barely

[olive ember]

Is it now?

[patent mango]

shredder autopistol is still paying for its sins

[olive ember]

Oh right they made it proc only on elites or wte

[patent mango]

kinetic flayer is actually good?

[nocturne dust]

Only targets elites now and enables PC

Is a very minor dps bump but still better than alternatives

[patent mango]

better than charged strike ig

[olive ember]

I saw some Reddit threads asking for autopistol to be buffed and people were having PTSD over autopistol supremacy in the comments lmao

[nocturne dust]

[fathom adder]

Reddit
Found your problem right here boss

[olive ember]

Is it better than not taking it at all and using the point elsewhere? Tho that’s probably build dependent

[patent mango]

idek what i'd do with shredder autopistol

maybe just +50% dmg lmfao

[nocturne dust]

BB is the worst blitz a Psyker can have and only taken for the nodes below it or Kinetic Flayer (if you're maximizing meta). It's a bad blitz.

[olive ember]

I mean, darktide Reddit is… better… than some other Reddits. cough helldivers cough

[nocturne dust]

No, as said it's a tiny dps bump

Investing elsewhere is slightly less dps

[round gull]

any recomendation instead of BB?

[olive ember]

So then why would you ever take it lol. Or do you mean meta on the sense of “if I had a gun pointed at my head and had to take BB and then a BB upgrade”

[nocturne dust]

On Inferno? No.

[round gull]

any Blitz recomendation?

[nocturne dust]

Sadly BB is the optimal choice because of Inferno's problems and wildfire/psykinetics being below it

[round gull]

ohhh

I see

[olive ember]

For single target melee? Honestly I’d just use a ds4 or deimos.

But BB pairs pretty well with infernus… or more specifically that side of the tree pairs well with infernus and BB is on that side of the tree

[round gull]

So i have no choice

lel

[nocturne dust]

I mean you can go for assail

but then you lose out on psykinetics and wildfire which hurts quite a bit

[olive ember]

So the issue is assail is on the opposite side of the tree.

And smite is redundant with purge staff

[nocturne dust]

Pretty much

[olive ember]

So you are kinda constrained to BB. BB also gives you a ranged option I suppose

But I honestly would just take BB with no upgrades

[nocturne dust]

I mean there are people that do Assail/Inferno.

It's suboptimal but more fun, according to them.

[round gull]

There're also psychopaths

lol

[nocturne dust]

Because it's better than all alternatives. Wdym?

It's a tiny dps bump over other things like Warp Battery (even on a shriek build).

[dire hare]

anyone know how to build that staff m1 build?

[olive ember]

I just use pygex’s build ngl

No clue how good it is or if it’s even up to date but I can do auric with it so good enough

[dire hare]

thank you

oh it doesnt use gaze looking for that one thank you though

[karmic reef]

Can someone help me remake a crit scriers gaze build with heavy laspistol and dueling sword? Unless you think a different melee would work better for it?

Oh wanting to use smite on it too

[nocturne dust]

Bit of an odd combo

[jovial juniper]

Yeah losing on Assail as gunker is bold

[karmic reef]

Yeah its more or less an amalgamation of everything I dont use otherwise, but it worked quite well surprisingly before the skill tree rework

[karmic reef]

this is what I got rn

[late sapphire]

toss out the smite heavy attack node and anticipation

[karmic reef]

focused around stacking crit and weakspot damage as much as possible and to stay in scriers as much as I can

[karmic reef]

its not any good?

[late sapphire]

the smite subnode is so terrible i don't even remember its name

it doesn't do much

[karmic reef]

With dueling sword I'll be using heavies fairly often

[late sapphire]

Yeah even then

Anticipation is just +1 dodge, the +50% dodge duration apparently only works if you dodge in place, bringing i-frames from 20% to 30% duration

[karmic reef]

gotta love misleading descriptions

should I grab one with the warp or crack of bone

[late sapphire]

You can consider taking one with the warp yeah

[nocturne dust]

I'd do something like this

[late sapphire]

You have almost no use for warp splitting with that build though.....

[karmic reef]

cause with crack of bone I could stay in gaze for a lot longer just with dueling sword headshots

[late sapphire]

But yeah crack of bone is also ok remember though dueling sword can't get that many headshot kills really compared to sweepier weapons

[nocturne dust]

oh yeh, no assail 😭

[karmic reef]

but with one with the warp I could get up to like 53.33 damage reduction while in scriers

[late sapphire]

Take warp speed it's fun

[late sapphire]

also perfect timing sucks here too

[karmic reef]

what weapon should I be using

[late sapphire]

force greatsword

wait two weeks

[karmic reef]

I just thought it fit well with crit and finesse damage focused build

[late sapphire]

jk dueling sword is peak

[karmic reef]

why? Youll be getting crits a lot

[late sapphire]

it's just that crack of bone doesn't work well with it that much

[nocturne dust]

True. Still rather it over battle meditation

[late sapphire]

What warp damage do you do, though?

Mettle is ok though

[karmic reef]

oh nvm got it mixed up with another tlaent

got it mixed up with empathic evasion

[nocturne dust]

smite

[late sapphire]

Also why soulstealer lol

[karmic reef]

what mark of dueling sword is best?

[late sapphire]

Anyways, @karmic reef you can swap out warp expenditure for quietude, as well

mk4 is the strongest by far, mk2 is neat too though

[nocturne dust]

Revised a bit

[nocturne dust]

Look I am currently enduring a massive headache is my excuse 😭

[late sapphire]

Yeah this seems better

[karmic reef]

whats mk II do

[late sapphire]

So the dueling sword mk4 has poking heavies, mk5 has slashing ones

[nocturne dust]

mk5

[late sapphire]

The poking ones almost ignore armor and do huge damage, the slashing ones, well, don't

[nocturne dust]

mk5 dodges funny

[late sapphire]

mk2 has a poking and a slashing heavy

The other big difference is that mk5 has the defence and the mobility stat meaning its dodges are a good bit better but it loses out on some damage types

[nocturne dust]

If you dodge max on it, it is absurd

You will dodge off the map

[late sapphire]

I'd just take this tree, you can consider swapping cruel fortune (dd subnode) or enfeeble (smite subnode) for one with the warp

[karmic reef]

But maybe the slashing ones might do better getting headshots for crack of bone?

btw what blessings should I run on my weapons for this one

[nocturne dust]

Just poke at head

[late sapphire]

This is a skill thing though

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[karmic reef]

I mean multiple in one

[late sapphire]

Oh no it's an overhead, straight downwards

[nocturne dust]

uncanny and [preference] for dueling sword

[late sapphire]

uncanny is great on ds4 and even greater on 2 and 5 should you ever switch marks

[marble crater]

How does KF work with Trauma explosion? Is the BB chance per explosion or for each elite you hit?

[nocturne dust]

I like thrust

but riposte if you want to be an offensive melee munchkin

[late sapphire]

It only ever bbs one target

[nocturne dust]

per enemy hit, seemingly. It procs so readily.

[late sapphire]

I still maintain thrust sucks on ds as long as you are actually attacking as fast as you could be

[karmic reef]

rn Im running precog and riposte since it seems to be good on this build

[late sapphire]

uncanny riposte is good

[spark hazel]

I also find the new Agile blessing useful, personally

[late sapphire]

finesse bonuses are additional

[marble crater]

Yes, but do I have one 15% chance from the explosion or do I have like five 15% chances because I hit five ragers

[late sapphire]

five 15% chances yes

[nocturne dust]

sure but the speed is so high that hurts my fingies 😭

[late sapphire]

so if you have a 60% finesse bonus the next 60% finesse bonus may do less than a 20% crit bonus

[marble crater]

I want this to be true

[nocturne dust]

and also tasty mutant oneshots

[late sapphire]

Real stats wise precog is about a 30% damage increase no other buffs

[marble crater]

Thanks

[late sapphire]

Given the huge bonuses from sg and dd i prefer riposte

[karmic reef]

Btw what perks on the laspistol? Im thinking infernus and reassuringly accurate since its focused on critical headshots

[fathom adder]

You do spend a lot of time closing distance between enemies though, and for effects like FotF that only buff the next one attack, might as well Thrust that one

[late sapphire]

uncanny is a huge bonus to carapace armor, like 50% on ds4 heavies and 2.5x on ds5 heavies

[late sapphire]

This is psyker chat

fotf one shots anyways

[nocturne dust]

Psykers close distance a lot

[karmic reef]

maybe concentrated fire?

[nocturne dust]

the extra damage on the first hit is nice

[karmic reef]

is infernus even worth using?

[late sapphire]

dumdum infernus is the usual i believe

Not a laspistol guy though

[fathom adder]

Or whatever Psyker has that buffs the next single attack

[karmic reef]

but is it worth being more niche into critical hits/headshots on this build

[late sapphire]

Nothing

[karmic reef]

with either reassuringly accurate or chained fire?

[nocturne dust]

we don't.

[late sapphire]

Well we have true aim

That's ranged only though

[nocturne dust]

that's just a guaranteed crit tho

[fathom adder]

Precog is probably better for Zealot too (ironically) to stack with Duelist

[nocturne dust]

Precog is just too short

[karmic reef]

hm reassuringly accurate or chained fire

[late sapphire]

precog isn't multiplicative to duelist though...

Precog on zealot gives you HUGE fotf hits IF you time it well

[karmic reef]

I know dumdum is the obvious pick, but I like to do more niche builds

[nocturne dust]

no

[spark hazel]

Speaking of guaranteed crit, is there any build for the smite staff that's worth going into DD tree? Because I've only ever seen viable builds going warp siphon

[nocturne dust]

I mean there's builds

Good ones? No

[late sapphire]

smite staff...

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

[karmic reef]

so neither reassuringly accurate or concentrated fire is worth using?

[spark hazel]

I can't help it, man. I want to unleash my inner Palpatine, even if it's not the greatest

[late sapphire]

Try around a bit

[late sapphire]

desperado is too short, ghost and between the eyes are wasted with ee

[spark hazel]

Extra dodges is a helluva drug

[late sapphire]

the rest are all kinda ok

[nocturne dust]

Not in my opinion.

[late sapphire]

agile just makes you waste dodges

[nocturne dust]

Concentrated Fire is whatever, a toughness blessing is also whatever

[late sapphire]

True

Raking fire maybe amusing vs bons

[radiant frigate]

concentrated fire SUCKS because it drops the moment you hit anything other than a weakspot

or whiff

[nocturne dust]

and it's not even a good bonus

[late sapphire]

speedload though

[pale charm]

whats the dump stat for the Inferno Force Staff?

[fathom adder]

Warp Resistance on all Force weapons

It scales so little that the difference between 60% and 80% is approximately Fuckall%

[lyric hatch]

you know despite what even one says i just dont get the duelling sword hype

[olive ember]

you swap to ds4 and you spam heavy attacks and win

[shut breach]

Finesse damage is stupid so you just spam anything and if it grazes a face they die

[lyric hatch]

ok but why would i use that when FS exists, same concept but better dmg

[olive ember]

the ds4 performs better than the force swords

Easier to use too

[lyric hatch]

not in my experience

[radiant frigate]

insane runspeed, good dodges, unparalelled anti-elite performance

[strong gulch]

Deimos is more defensive for sure, but it's fussier to use to get to the H2 and isn't as fast moving as DS.

[radiant frigate]

also good vs bosses

[strong gulch]

ye

[radiant frigate]

with a sufficient amount of melee buffs, also shreds hordes

[strong gulch]

both are good

[lyric hatch]

not a hard feat to reach

[radiant frigate]

what other weapons are you looking at

[jovial juniper]

Well you see
Your experience is a small fraction of the actual DS experience

[lyric hatch]

yeah, thats why i said it dont understand why its hyped. doesnt matter what mark or perks I used the thing feels mid

[strong gulch]

High, damage, fast, easy to use.

[lyric hatch]

"high damage"

[strong gulch]

If the deimos H1 was the H2, I am sure more people would use the deimos.

[round gull]

Hi Potato

[strong gulch]

ye thanks

[strong gulch]

hello 👋

[round gull]

: D

[lyric hatch]

light into heavy gives you two stabs

[jovial juniper]

Now imagine if those 2 stabs had massive damage

Yup
That's the DS4

[olive ember]

Bro on a zealot the things heavies does thammer dammger per stab if you know what you are doing

[lyric hatch]

why would you use it when you get thunder hammer

[olive ember]

lmao actually trolling

[radiant frigate]

thunder hammer has negative mobility
ds4 has mobility only beaten by knife

ds4 is also a lot less risky to use

[lyric hatch]

im serious, yeah DS4 has good heavy stabs but thats it

[patent jacinth]

Also like

The second best dodges in the game

Only beat by ds5

And better mixed horde handling

And armor swarm handling

[olive ember]

I can't take him seriously anymore when he says why you would take a thammer over ds4 ngl

ds4 does comparable damage to the thammer per fucking stab and it stabs like 3x as quick

[lyric hatch]

if i played zealot i would

[patent jacinth]

It just has worse trash damage and no stagger to speak of

(On light attacks)

But thammer is better for one boss at a time and isolated heavy armor

[olive ember]

not really

[patent jacinth]

Ironically the weapon with worse cleave handles mixed horde better (it can pick targets out with stabs/perfect strikedowns)

[olive ember]

maybe for a boss at best

#zealot-class message

for zealot

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike dumps blast radius

[late sapphire]

ds is so good vs bosses i usually run one and duel bosses with it regardless of build

tbh i actually kind of hate the stagger the deimos does on h2

[analog agate]

It is annoying

[radiant frigate]

but it looks funny

[late sapphire]

it's good if you are crutching on it for some reason but i want the damaged mauler or crusher close so i can kill it

[patent jacinth]

H2 seems to do more damage

[nocturne dust]

Just move to beat the enemy on the floor

[patent jacinth]

And it chains in easy from light 1

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/jo-jo-gang-beat-up-anime-kick-gif-17369990

[lyric hatch]

thats what im saying

[late sapphire]

really though if you have your dd sg uncanny whatever up even halfway you're gonna be two shotting maulers and crushers with the ds

one shotting at peak damage output

deimos is closeish on the l1h2 loop but sucks mobility wise

[patent mango]

do you guys like the moveset on the Covenant Mk VI Blaze Force Greatsword or Covenant Mk VIII Blaze Force Greatsword? i cant decide

[olive ember]

the what?

[patent mango]

they appeared in my dreams

[nocturne dust]

I prefer the mk 69

[jovial juniper]

Yeah I think we didn't dream the same dream

I'll come back with an answer after Dec 3

Yeah?

[late sapphire]

force gs just a week away

[patent mango]

its so cool when you do the attack that goes slash and the one that goes stab

[late sapphire]

i like the one where it does the force thing

[patent mango]

that ones a top 3 for sure

[jovial juniper]

I like the sword that is great

[late sapphire]

There are at least two

May even be more

[patent mango]

its gonna be great

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/alan-wake-alan-wake-2-alan-wake-aaa-gif-17006915372332537980

[patent mango]

tbh im still surprised fatshark was secretly locked in

[broken carbon]

locked in

(adding 3 whole new weapons after like 4 months)

[patent mango]

its the force greatsword thats like worth 10 weapons at least

[spice veldt]

we will subsist on it for 5 years, hibernating

[radiant frigate]

add more ranged weapons? i sleep

force greatsword and power greatsword? real shit

siblings will look at this and just think "hell yeah"

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/bUCIR.gif

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-good-men-in-tights-gif-14682649

[late sapphire]

Ok i changed my mind on thrust @nocturne dust

it may actually be peak

[patent mango]

thrust on force gs is pretty good

[spice veldt]

brutal momentum is where it's at

[broken carbon]

uncanny on the power GS is so busted

[late sapphire]

not using the unique gs blessings

[broken carbon]

the sprint thrust on the gs with uncanny stacked can reach a crusher oneshot

its insane

[patent mango]

i dont like warp cycler

[broken carbon]

on a burgle weakspot thrust u can deal nearly a quarter in one attack with minimal buffs

[patent mango]

its true

[buoyant maple]

Huh

[jovial juniper]

It's just brainrot/delusions

We still don't know what blessings they'll have

[patent mango]

im seeing so many ludwig bloodborne psykers

it finally has a pc port

[radiant frigate]

the blood sings to me

[patent mango]

how

[radiant frigate]

built different

[ashen edge]

https://tenor.com/view/moonlight-ludwig-bloodborne-gif-21829853

You were at my side all along my beloved

[nocturne dust]

Nothing makes me happier than telling mutants 'no'

[late sapphire]

dreg ragers too...

[radiant ice]

“Ludwig bloodborne Psykers”?

I’m trying to decipher that

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/bxqAA.gif

[radiant ice]

Ah I’ve never played Bloodborne

But my absolute adoration of Dark Souls means I know the moonlight

And I used it in Elden Ring, but didn’t really like Elden Ring as a whole

Got the DLC and never got round to playing it

[young summit]

Just cleared an Auric Damn in 18 minutes. I don't think we stopped sprinting at any point.

[radiant frigate]

elden ring's greatest sin is just how much the game wants you to press l2

[radiant ice]

For me it just felt like a mess

Far too open and too much busywork

Dungeons were all copy/paste with little to no reward for doing them

Even several copy/paste bosses

Just lost the flow and focused direction of Dark Souls in my opinion

Where every area and boss was memorable

Still put like 400 hours into it, platinumed on launch week and all xD

[patent mango]

elden ring gameplay wise just isnt as fun as bloodborne or ac6 imo

[nocturne dust]

Me trying to figure out why you're mentioning Assassin's Creed Syndicate by a weird title:

https://tenor.com/view/bookio-gif-13932157847762104386

(Armored Core isn't real)

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/vYlFiBsIjRM.gif

(force sword)

[broken carbon]

my personal ranking is

sekiro
ds3
bloodborne
elden ring

sekiro and ds3 are very close

[patent mango]

i like the faster paced ones pretty much

[broken carbon]

i wasn’t able to finish BB before my ps4 died

[patent mango]

oof

[broken carbon]

elden ring had potential

[nocturne dust]

I still haven't played through a single FromSoftware game

[broken carbon]

but the open world just ruined it

[nocturne dust]

I tried Elden Ring but bounced off it. I tried Dark Souls 2 but bounced off it. I tried Dark Souls 1 but bounced off it.

[broken carbon]

ds3 is the best of the souls games

anyone who says otherwise is incorrect

“but but but the level design! this elevator connects to this place!”

grah

ds3 is the best souls

sekiro is the best from soft game

ac6 is

somewhere up there too

fun but there wasn’t really enough content

[patent mango]

ac6 is so peak

did u do ng+ and ng+1 stuff

[broken carbon]

yah i got all the endings

and s ranked everything

[patent mango]

funny

it might get a dlc

unsure

[broken carbon]

actually

no

[patent mango]

buh im too poor for update

[broken carbon]

there was one mission i didn’t s rank

i don’t remember which one it was

[patent mango]

money wise thats fine

i want plasteel....

[broken carbon]

to the mines with you

[patent mango]

ogryn time

pickaxe..

when update is out im just gonna instamax force gs lmao

sacrifice blast

[broken carbon]

samesies

before i even use one in the psykanium

both GSs are getting maxed

the less i have to engage with the mastery system the better

[patent mango]

i do wanna instamax all right away

but i need plasteel

[broken carbon]

i dumped all of my resources doing that for all human classes

the day of UnL

[patent mango]

i had like 40k palsteel 3m dockests for unlocked and loaded

it all disappeared so fast

[broken carbon]

warhammer 40k

plastide

[patent mango]

yummy plasteel

[minor wedge]

I could cry

I just.... tried and tried to keep a mission from failing

played ogryn and revived each of my teammates like.... 5 times

but they JUST

KEPT

DIEING

Q_Q

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[minor wedge]

(I mean actual revives btw, like from the heretic thingie)

Pickups I stopped counting

It was....

taxing

[zinc phoenix]

Nice that’s good for the penance

[nocturne dust]

lol

[zinc phoenix]

I love teams like that, so much progression

[minor wedge]

Yup, got it at the end XD

40 revives

that penance, right ?

[zinc phoenix]

The ones that suck are the ones where they go down and then instant alt f4

Still have to carry, no penance progression

[minor wedge]

Fair

Sadly I then got overwhelmed by a mutie that threw me into a hound

[nocturne dust]

That happens so often I'm more surprised when they don't disappear

Though to be fair it's unclear how many of those are DCes

[minor wedge]

I had the FUNNIEST Dc from an ally earlier.

Got charged into a wall

[zinc phoenix]

I guess we’ll find out when raging causes you to get hog tied and ball gagged

[minor wedge]

and DC'd right that moment

I acted as the ogryn like "OH NO! Shouty got turned into splat on wall!"

[nocturne dust]

I don't necessarily like the Havoc update's proposed changes, will punish DCers pretty bad.

I DC at least once a day 😭

[ornate hamlet]

Is there a build for assail and inferno staff?

[nocturne dust]

There are builds, yes.

[wind spruce]

There are no builds at all, sorry

[ornate hamlet]

That sucks

[nocturne dust]

I'm not an afficianado on combining assail and inferno but you could do something like this

It would be... functional. Missing Psykinetics and Wildfire hurts a lot though, which is why the typical pairing is Brainburst.

[ornate hamlet]

I see

I’ll just use scriers gaze and recon lasgun

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Inferno is probably the most build-agnostic staff

You can take it with any build and it will function

[ornate hamlet]

I see

[nocturne dust]

The only staff that typically pairs with Assail is Voidstrike tho

But it's not like you can't use Assail, you can always supplement suboptimal builds with skill, and they probably don't even require that much extra skill in aurics.

Except EK. EK falls apart a lot harder than the other staves without the right build imo.

[late sapphire]

If you do just the 'legacy dungeons' and close your eyes between it feels almost like a normal souls game

[loud slate]

Right now I'm using voidstrike+assail but find struggling with killing bosses

is there another range weapon I can choose so its more effective at burst dmg?

[broken carbon]

if u want boss kill

vraks infantry auto gun is the best for that

[ornate hamlet]

what mk duelling sword is best again

[loud slate]

I'm using illisi force sword for close range hordes

[wind spruce]

IV

[wind spruce]

The issue is the pairing of illisi with void. You want something that can handle single targets (ie monstrosities). Duelling sword, knife or deimos work well.

[nocturne dust]

Psyker generally has trouble with bosses. Inferno is the best staff at it, but the best option all around is the Vraks Infantry Autogun. The typical method on non-boss staves or guns is to bring a melee that can handle it like dueling sword.

[thorn cedar]

hit em with a pointy bit of metal til they dead-die

[bitter kiln]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b73e140-3e67-42c9-977e-f8d394f7b417/comfy-trauma-psyker

I stumbled across this build some time ago and had a lot of fun with it so far. I swapped the staff for inferno and it worked out quite well, even in aurics.

[vagrant monolith]

Warp rupture or creeping flame ?

[paper harbor]

creeping flame max peril can kill poxwalker and groaner on 6 soulblaze

warp rupture has dmg fall off

most people here told choose creeping flame

[vagrant monolith]

Alright thanks

[plucky flax]

No psykinetic aura and wildfire with burga

[ornate hamlet]

is the voidblast staff the one that charges the ball, or the one that charges the explosion?

[paper harbor]

the ball charge attack is voidstrike

voidblast like one sienna conflagration staff but explosive

[stark crown]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j9CCYz12cJd2-hl5B?invite=cr-MSxEUDYsMTA3NDAxNTczLA

Shit will never not be funny with Super Impact

[cursive ice]

how to do cliffhanger?

[formal hill]

F button

[wind spruce]

Alt-F4 button*

[paper harbor]

find some edges, have horde come, then push them off the edges or use venting shriek push them

do like hab block dreyko at escaping route

when the raptor shoot down the bridge theres narrow no railing path next to enenmies spawn is great

[cursive ice]

hold the checkpoint on bridge to use venting shreki?

[paper harbor]

venting shriek or push then off the edge

during horde

[cursive ice]

thanks

[dusk void]

I have done it. I have hit the 25 million ordos cap

[paper harbor]

i need those plasteel 🤤

[tacit stump]

has psyker a tree branch worth reworking?

[runic kiln]

does this stack on normal left clicks with voidblast? or just the charged rights?

[atomic swan]

only charged attack (yes your right clicks)

[runic kiln]

ty lad

[left basin]

ep

[tacit stump]

ep?

[left basin]

ep

[tacit stump]

empowered psyoniks?

[runic kiln]

has anyone in here found a good use for smite's +Hvy Atk node yet?

[restive slate]

Illisi?

Though it sounds good as concept, practically... meh

[runic kiln]

yeah it FELT aiight, but then checking numbers its pr dog

[restive slate]

Alas Smikers sadly will never be meta

[runic kiln]

who cares about meta lmao

[restive slate]

A fair statement

[echo root]

Smite is just a boring Blitz in general, Assail is the most fun one for Psyker.

BB is whatever

[compact cargo]

Wuh

BB is fun

[restive slate]

BB is fun when autotriggering on elites

[tacit stump]

it can only trigger on specials, elites and monsters

[radiant ice]

I find assail the most boring, smite really fun especially when used with aggressive pushes instead of constant holding

And Brain Burst is the real beloved

Kinetic Flayer is a fun bonus, but only really if you have a spare point

[radiant ice]

BB is great with only a single point/without the modifiers so can be great when making a build that needs an extra point or two. Gives you a sniping option when running close range gear like a flame staff

And if you’re using venting shriek, the other modifier to make it fire out almost instant after a push is insane

[restive slate]

Oh the speed pops?

[radiant ice]

Yeah it’s so good

Knock down a horde and instant lock a sniper/dog while dodging, your team while love you xD

A lot more than they love assail or smite anyway

I view kinetic flayer as more of an extra crit option

When running a recon lasgun or fire staff crit build

“We’ve had crits, but what about second crits?” XD

[restive slate]

I wish BB can crit, if they do then create an AOE stagger on pop

[radiant ice]

BB always does an AoE stagger

Just not a bigger AoE XD

Also question for fellow Psykers out there, an eternal debate

Two 21% Health Curios or two 17% Toughness Curious? XD

(With a +3 Stamina of course)

[compact cargo]

1 health 1 toughness

[radiant ice]

That seems unfocused but honestly, fair

I tend to run two toughness ones when I have a build with loads of toughness nodes

Sitting at 194 is nice

But I sometimes struggle to see the value when it only gets you to 120ish for other builds, compared to the big jump from health ones

[mental rock]

you want the one hp curio for the 200hp bp

[radiant ice]

Ohhh

I never realised there was a valuable breakpoint at 200hp

Do I finally survive Damnation Crusher overheads? XD

[mental rock]

no

it lets you survive 2 bursters/2 sniper shots if you have 1 sniper res

[radiant ice]

I mean I can survive that anyway with either 2 in one stat

[brazen rampart]

(you could also just not get hit by these things)

[mental rock]

well you could just not get hit with +9 stamina but people dont seem to like that idea

because mistakes happen

[brazen rampart]

+9 stamina, kinetic deflection, force sword, deflector blessing, +2 stamina and block eff perks.

Literally stand there and let a gunner pack shoot the fuck out of you with no consequences.

[radiant ice]

Or take shield and hit f

[runic kiln]

i usually run +1wound and then double toughness or 1hp/1tough. extra stam is fun for a melee build. and the wound has saved me so many times from random instakills so its a staple for me

[radiant ice]

(I do love my deflector build, I have made exactly that for fun. But it's not good XD)

[tacit stump]

you wand 1:stamina curio for reviving

[radiant ice]

Oh yeah I always take a stam one

My debate is more on the other two

Never been a fan of +1 wound myself, would need to be +2 before I consider it

But that unfortunately doesn't exist XD

[mental rock]

no you cant. bursters do 100 damage flat and snipers do around 120

[runic kiln]

yeah thats fair. all personal pref anyways 😛

[radiant ice]

I mean, it's a tempting prospect for getting that orange title

[quartz barn]

Tbf you should never get hit by snipers

[radiant ice]

Titles weren't in the game in when I last played, recently came back after a little bit away

[radiant ice]

True, but sometimes mistake happens or a horde does hold you in place for it

[mental rock]

I have dodged snipers and they still hit me 🤷‍♂️ you cant always account for ping/servers

or if you are thrown by a mutant, snipers will hit you in the air

or thrown by anything really

[quartz barn]

Almost all psyker builds should deal with them without issue tbh

[tacit stump]

would be 1hp 1thoughness 1 stamina good with 1 anti sniper curios