psyker-class

[broken carbon]

it’d also be basically useless the moment a mauler, ogryn, boss spawned

[thorn cedar]

or you missed

[broken carbon]

or that

yeah

[thorn cedar]

i waffle constantly between HT + Deci/BM

both are fun and both work

you wanna learn the moveset and get really good at pacing yourself before taking decimator though, otherwise its only gonna serve you for stupid thick hordes, and at that point you shouldve just taken BM

[unkempt knoll]

im not doing enough dmg as psyker and its annoying tf outta me

[thorn cedar]

are you using Scriers Gaze and DD

if not, change that

congrats, you are now blue veteran

[unkempt knoll]

i am

[broken carbon]

basically press f and win

[unkempt knoll]

not enough

[broken carbon]

what’s your built

post it

[marble crater]

Press more F

[plucky flax]

This is cheat mod.

[nocturne dust]

No u

[pine relic]

the build is good

just don't play with another two psykers with the same build

[patent mango]

real psykers use only 1 loadout and take 5m to change builds while friends wait in squad

[pine relic]

damn glass cannon team everybody is smiting and can't revive shits

[hushed egret]

does warp splitting, the bonus cleave skill, effect staff attacks? namely primary fire?

[ashen elbow]

I finally modded Darktide after being lazy for a long time…What’s the Psyker mod that shows the extra % of his peril?

[jovial juniper]

It does
The problem is that it's not enough cleave to go through 1 mass on the primary fire

0.25 goes to 0.5

[thorn cedar]

ye

warp splitter works on everything that has a cleave value

the only actual exception is assail which doesnt use hitmass but still gets boosted anyway

still wondering if that's something they're gonna nerf

[hushed egret]

[unkempt knoll]

i wanted too go crowd control with a knife and double barrel

but the bleed on crit wasent doin enough

the speed was great

but the dmg was nothing

so ive been expermenting with other weapons

worst part is im pretty much just playing it as a diet zealot but AOE

[upper sun]

@marble crater hi

duo???

[marble crater]

Sure, let's give it a try

[upper sun]

theres unironically no high shock on the map

[marble crater]

Good

[upper sun]

you have the lowest boot time ive ever seen

[marble crater]

My Xbox wasn't even on yet

[upper sun]

you got something with boss damage?

[marble crater]

No, I'm a psyker

[upper sun]

fuck it we ball

WAIT NO

ITS NOT PRIVATE

[nocturne dust]

gunker crying rn

[nocturne dust]

Barrel the randoms

Make it a duo by force

https://tenor.com/view/ferass18-gif-7869831930024597864

[upper sun]

hes good

fuck i jinxed it

[marble crater]

Went well until it didn't

[upper sun]

this wouldnt have happened if i had spidey sense 😭

i couldnt find the trapper it was hiding behind a hoard

normal game now?

[marble crater]

Yeah

I also didn't have shriek up to stun unfortunately

[sturdy reef]

[upper sun]

infinite load screen? @marble crater

[marble crater]

Don't bully me

[upper sun]

its fatsharks fault

[marble crater]

But yes, done now

[upper sun]

unironically

i get them too

[runic juniper]

laugh at this idiot who dares get stuck loading

[upper sun]

GAEMS anyone else???

[jovial juniper]

Eh

[upper sun]

yard my beloved....

[jovial juniper]

I just booted VT2 😭

[pliant hatch]

Agent, how does one force deal the zap damage upfront?

[plucky flax]

Blitz cancel. Cast right click then quickly swap to blitz then back to staff.

But you lose out on the smaller ticks of damage.

[upper sun]

leaf

remake it

its still private

😭

[pliant hatch]

I remember you mentioning it one time we played together to someone else but I'm only really getting into staff Psyker now.

So wanted to ask.

Thanks

[marble crater]

You just want to force me into another loading screen

[upper sun]

its fatsharks fault not yours

see this was a lot faster no?

[marble crater]

It was

[dusk void]

Ahh, the infinite loading screen

[upper sun]

its not exclusive to xbox

its also on pc

i had them alot previous patches

[pliant hatch]

Maybe I can apply some sort of mouse macro to make it doable.

If it's even worth it.

[unkempt knoll]

imma be real i just cant play psyker i do so much more on the other classes

[pliant hatch]

Psyker seems to have the highest skill ceiling.

[unkempt knoll]

i do way more with an ogryn PBF then i do with smite psyker

atlest i fuckin kill em instead of tickling em

[plucky flax]

No because of the current flurry bug.

It'll be really weird. But tbh you don't need to do that tech.

[unkempt knoll]

gonna try redoing my skills

[plucky flax]

Just play normally with surge it's so op.

[unkempt knoll]

gonna try brain blast

[plucky flax]

(I only do it to kill secure for PC proc)

[pliant hatch]

Understood. Surge with zaps? I know I could just go with blasts and a quell macro but I think the zaps are a bit more fun and require more out of me.

Should I swap Nexus so I can still charge fast?

[unkempt knoll]

atlest i somehow got this

seems hard

[shadow wigeon]

When using charged secondary on zap staff, I notice I'm doing more damage with each chained attack on a crusher, in psyk... is there a rending effect on zap? (no talents)

[pliant hatch]

And if you don't mind the question, why HP on the psyker curios?

[wind spruce]

No

[plucky flax]

Wait what? Do you wnat to use left or right click? Left click is nexus and surge. Right click is nexus and flurry. I referred to surge earlier as the staff, not the blessing.

[pliant hatch]

AH!

Apologies.

I'm new at staff psyker, only know gunpsyker.

[plucky flax]

I like big hp because of my own preference. Curios are super personal.

Also I don't shy away from grabbing grims in hishock so the hp helps there too.

[clear heath]

wow a fellow cdr curio enjoyer

[pliant hatch]

CDR on everything.

[clear heath]

i find that cdr curios are overhyped outside this server, and overhated here

[nocturne dust]

Overhated?

Literally just me

[clear heath]

I've seen a lot of people shitting on cdr curios here

I think they're just fine

[nocturne dust]

I think that's just me

[clear heath]

I think pygex guide hated them too

[nocturne dust]

[clear heath]

and like, all of zealot chat will rip you to shreds for using them

[pliant hatch]

CDR is good.

[nocturne dust]

Well, I guess. Not like I'm here all the time.

Just most of the time.

[pliant hatch]

Let's not listen to zealots, all they can do is beat things with stick

[nocturne dust]

[clear heath]

oh he has them on c tier

[nocturne dust]

Say sike right now

[clear heath]

I remember back when he just forgot to include them for a while

[pliant hatch]

You don't even know how to shoot that, zealot.

[nocturne dust]

I'm a Psyker, fool

So I definitely don't know how to shoot it

[pliant hatch]

🥁

[nocturne dust]

But who said anything about shooting?

https://tenor.com/view/dan-howell-throw-guns-danisnotonfire-gif-11747510

[pliant hatch]

[pliant hatch]

I can't say I agree. Toughness Regen for Loner Zealot, sure.

[clear heath]

wait did he forget sprint eff?

[pliant hatch]

Never for veteran since veteran has toughness on demand.

Not for most zealots for the same reason.

[nocturne dust]

That tier list is for psyker specifically

[broken carbon]

theyre just

meh

better options

[pliant hatch]

I'd still use CDR, I want to spread soulblaze more often.

[clear heath]

I think cdr is a good filler option once you have enough of everything else you care about

[pliant hatch]

Or scryer more.

Toughness is always something I take.

[nocturne dust]

12% CDR is like 2 seconds on shriek iirc

so very meh

[clear heath]

Like once you have enough gunner res to stop caring about them, toughness perks, the 1x sniper if you care about that

[pliant hatch]

I do find it more valuable than the toughness regen but I could be wrong.

[broken carbon]

3.6 seconds

[clear heath]

1.5 seconds off a shriek i'm spamming every 14 seconds is still worth it imo

[broken carbon]

toughness regen also isnt that good, but everyone here will crucifiy me for saying that

[nocturne dust]

It stacks poorly with other CDR like the aura if I'm not mistaken

[nocturne dust]

Just me, again

[clear heath]

It does stack poorly with them

[nocturne dust]

[clear heath]

but i'll still take it

[pliant hatch]

I'd only use toughness regen on loner zealot.

[plucky flax]

Me with top damage every game using cdr must be gud.

[clear heath]

1 second off 10 seconds sounds like a low amount of time, but that's still a lot more shrieks

[plucky flax]

[pliant hatch]

I'd always use CDR

[clear heath]

more damage

[nocturne dust]

Say that after you get your loot goblin on

[broken carbon]

yeah i told u about that, because it reduces the total cooldown, you technically get less value from PA and warp charges

[pliant hatch]

Also always use toughness.

[broken carbon]

me with top damage with toughness hp and gunner res must mean its best

[plucky flax]

I used to be top damage with as high as 700+ plasteels each game.

[pliant hatch]

And then I'd decide between stamina regen, block, sprint or something else.

[nocturne dust]

You did tell me but I knew before too

[clear heath]

There aren't a lot of other curio perk options that will help dps as much

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[nocturne dust]

I mean yes, it's basically the only choice for maximizing damage but...

[broken carbon]

yeah but im swag

[nocturne dust]

Damage overrated

[wind spruce]

How so? It affects the base as far as I'm aware

[plucky flax]

This one is pretty good for psyker. I used to play zealot for plasteels picking cos faster
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1178777956517171292/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_Screenshot_2023.png?ex=67437d05&is=67422b85&hm=61a9503ff904e3f430a0c103f3d438a8e9ccfdce3b5fd30d9e4ff43c2a46d79c&

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

535 and still 800k+

[clear heath]

If i didn't die, i didn't need the survivability.
We just ignore all the runs where I did die and blame teammates

[broken carbon]

curios shouldnt be there to help dps

[nocturne dust]

If you have 10% and 12%, it's 10% of base and 12% of remaining (or something like that)

[broken carbon]

"yeah i told u about that, because it reduces the total cooldown, you technically get less value from PA and warp charges"

[clear heath]

You get less value in terms of seconds off your cooldown, but it's still the same % more shrieks

[wind spruce]

So it scales multiplicatively

[upper sun]

@marble crater that was actually disgusting

[clear heath]

It doesn't matter if i'm losing 3 seconds off 30 or 1 second off 10, i'm still screaming 12% more. I don't see this as dimiinishing returns or anything

[upper sun]

between the smyker and the zealot we had no game

[marble crater]

[clear heath]

yeah

[broken carbon]

how often are you shrieking off cooldown

[wind spruce]

It literally is diminishing returns but that doesn't mean it isn't still good

[marble crater]

Dirty smykers

[clear heath]

I scream for damage

[upper sun]

we each took like 40 damage max throughout

[wind spruce]

It's definitionally diminishing returns

[clear heath]

so basically always

The % of shrieks gained per effect is not diminishing

[marble crater]

Now we need another one where we die a lot to balance it out

[plucky flax]

During fight every time.

[upper sun]

too good for aurics too bad to dual 😭 time to peril myself

[nocturne dust]

I scream off cooldown but a few seconds off aren't going to help much imo.

[upper sun]

what do you wanna do?

[wind spruce]

Sure, if you do bad maths you can get things to look the way you want

[clear heath]

Diminishing returns is a matter of what value you focus on. Technically DR curios are dimishing per raw amount of damage you take per perk, but it's an exponential gain of effective hp and time survived against that damage type

[marble crater]

Just do auric quick play

[jovial juniper]

You need a dedicated smite build to actually do something with Smite

[nocturne dust]

It's specifically not exponential because it's diminishing

It's linear

[clear heath]

It's actually not linear in terms of how long you can survive against a gunner

[upper sun]

@marble crater ok this is gonna be hard

im gonna play badly

and the person called subhuman

isnt gonna play well

[nocturne dust]

I'd fact-check that but I'm too lazy

[plucky flax]

Racist.

[unkempt knoll]

is it racist if its true?
||this is a joke mods||

[nocturne dust]

God Emperor says it's okay to be racist, I know because this book from the High Lords of Terra with the God Emperor's official stamp of approval on it said so

[wind spruce]

It's not okay not to be racist

[unkempt knoll]

its not "racist" im just a human supremist as the emperor inteded

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/bodyguard-dawn-of-war-tau-empire-execute-warhammer40k-gif-23588379

[clear heath]

Say you survive 1 second against a gunner.
1 curio perk means you have 20% dr. 1/0.8 = 1.25 You live 1.25 seconds
2 perks gives you 36% dr. 1/0.64 = 1.5625, so 1.5625 seconds
3 perks gives you 51.2% dr. 1/0.488 = 2.049 seconds
Each curio perk is a multiplicative 1.25x increase to survivability. Your time survived would be 1.25^(gunner_perk). Yes it's exponential
And yes, you can observe actual evidence of it working this way. Someone actually tested time survived against gunner here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/1g6qer0/testing_20_gunner_resistance_curios_at_point/

So yes, survivability against gunners actually does go up more and more per perk you get

[nocturne dust]

[clear heath]

The only reason I don't grab all gunner res is because at some point, you just stop giving a shit about the enemy type

[nocturne dust]

So you're telling me I'm not crazy for taking 3x gunner perks?

[clear heath]

yes

[plucky flax]

Tru sry. Let's be racist to heretics and aliens.

[clear heath]

Grab as much gunner res as you find comfortable, until you don't consider them threatening

For me on psyker, that is 2

on zealot i grab 1

[plucky flax]

Kill all orcs and eldars.

[nocturne dust]

9x gunner res

[shadow wigeon]

Looks like it was just variance in the damage that happened to look like it was scaling up. I didn't realize how much the individual damage applied to each target varies shot to shot.

[nocturne dust]

I want a version of Darktide where we play as the Tau and fight the Imperium

[clear heath]

Anyways, this is why i consider it important to consider which variable you care about when talking about diminishing returns.
For something that's single shot, like sniper res, you're usually just looking at damage taken from single bullet, so yes there's relevant diminishing returns there.
But that's not exactly relevant for gunners. For those, you're trying to see how much time you can gain to react against them, which grows per perk

people talking about diminishing returns when talking about DR is my pet peeve because usually it's not relevant

[dusk void]

Tried talking down about my performance. Backfired on me with kindness. What is this?

[errant pawn]

An anomaly of the warp

[nocturne dust]

Kindness is mercy for corruption
- Darktide Loading Screen

[errant pawn]

On a different note does anybody know where I can find a list of talents that aren’t working

[dusk void]

Please tell me my performance sucked

[nocturne dust]

Performance sucked, not even 1 million, smh my head

[dusk void]

Thank you 👍

[upper sun]

thats his name

[austere warren]

🤨

[upper sun]

thats his actual in game name

smh

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

I PLAYED WITH HIM BEFORE

SHUT UP

you were there

[marble crater]

The face was for what you were doing at the end there

[upper sun]

😠

okie im out

[mint sluice]

Getting back into darktide after a long time and I'm leveling psyker, what weapons end up being pretty good? Like, ideally what should I be going for ?

[jovial juniper]

For level 30

[upper sun]

everything is good now but staves are the best

[marble crater]

it was fun, maybe we are successful next time

[upper sun]

just try out the weapons you're given as a gift

[upper sun]

we were doing well

[lusty whale]

You want to max mastery on all weapons so just try everything and you'll figure out what you like as you level them up

[mint sluice]

I see!

So far I like staff and force sword especially

[upper sun]

@marble crater your time on ogryn and my time on psyker make for good coordination

[marble crater]

Protect lil uns in melee and protect big ones from ranged, perfectly balanced

[upper sun]

ye we handled the mixed hoard part from 3 different doors well enough

[marble crater]

And then disaster struck, we will get it next time

[radiant frigate]

@upper sun so i logged on ogryn for the first time after your little.. "experiment"

my game crashed from the notifications of 500 pickaxes

[marble crater]

Why did you have 500 pickaxe notifications?

[radiant frigate]

because i spend 5 million dockets on pickaxes a while back

and i did it through the armory menu from character select

which does not summon notifications

[marble crater]

You are either addicted to pickaxes, or really unlucky

[radiant frigate]

it was for science

clad wanted the base stats to put into a spreadsheet

[marble crater]

[ebon nymph]

Burning Spirit or Unstable power?

[radiant frigate]

if these are the options then unstable

[ebon nymph]

Elaborate

Qualify

[marble crater]

I don't even know what these options are for

[radiant frigate]

blazing spirit on force swords is no bueno

[ebon nymph]

:((

Why

[marble crater]

Because by the time things die from burning they are already dead from you hitting them

[ebon nymph]

What about enemies like maulers and crushers and such where i can hit their heads but not do a lot of damage

[marble crater]

Then you are low key trolling

[clear heath]

They'll still die before the soulblaze does relevant damage

[upper sun]

my bad

[upper sun]

i needed 500 pick axes to mathmatically check if the rng is really rng or the stats are weighted

[marble crater]

If you want fire and deal with maulers and crushers play inferno or voidblast with a dueling sword

[clear heath]

Force sword should kill maulers just fine too, so really it's just a question of bosses and crushers

[marble crater]

And what's the conclusion?

[clear heath]

And for crushers, it won't even work without uncanny

Deimos is probably still killing crushers before soulblaze matters too

So really it's just if you're mashing blazing spirit uncanny illisi into a crusher
Which is borderline trolling

[mint sluice]

Is that one blessing for force sword that blocks bullets any good? It looks really cool

[clear heath]

No but i take it because it's cool

[marble crater]

It's good at what it does and cool yes

[clear heath]

You will usually get more value out of more damage. Situations where you absolutely need to block bullets aren't that common. Can generally dodge or position better

[upper sun]

im still filling out ths spread sheet

[marble crater]

[olive ember]

But deflector is funny tho

[clear heath]

it is, which is why i take it

[olive ember]

I do wish deflector came standard with the fucking force swords >.> psure thats what it was like beforehand and then they removed it and turned it into a blessing

[clear heath]

I wonder if the new force swords will have it as a blessing

[radiant frigate]

it was never baseline but it always should have been

[marble crater]

And is as big as psyker shield

[olive ember]

I am pretty sure it was baseline during the closed beta test way back, and also definitely sure that when the illisi and deimos were released they had deflector baseline before it got stripped away

[clear heath]

I think i remember that being a bug on illisi/diemos yeah

[radiant frigate]

i was not in the beta test and i was not around at illisi/deimos release

i was there at release and after talent trees

[zinc phoenix]

We were told it was a bug at the time it happened

[clear heath]

Vaguely remember people speculating that maybe force swords were coded with deflector as a baseline thing when we saw the bugged force swords

[olive ember]

It was also a thing at launch when deflector applied for reviving people with force sword out. So you could revive in the middle of a hoard of shooters. That was also pretty funny.

20 gunners would still just delete you tho

[zinc phoenix]

That was also a bug 😂

[olive ember]

I mean I know, but hey just saying should've just kept it kekw

[clear heath]

i miss deflector revives too

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it’s not a bug I had an issue with

[olive ember]

But anyways, I honestly wish they just reworked deflector and gave force swords a block that can stop ranged by default

[zinc phoenix]

I wish they’d ditch the support concept for psyker and make the centerline tree melee oriented

[upper sun]

i wish they'd ditch support concepts for all classes

[olive ember]

Psyker melee is still a bit weird ngl. Like ik its an entire playstyle to run shit like scriers gaze with ds4 but imo if I wanna run melee psyker I could achieve the same effect with half the effort on a zealot or even shout vet

[zinc phoenix]

Vet centerline is honestly really good 😂

[clear heath]

I just want smite reworked

[zinc phoenix]

Try it with bromentum tac axe

You murder good

[clear heath]

I don't even care if it stays support. I just want it more interesting than just hold a button

Like maybe cooldown/charges like assail

[zinc phoenix]

I want a mobility thing instead of smite

[olive ember]

It's kinda funny cuz isn't the optimal way to use smite basically to tap it for the knock down?

Holding it is only really used if you plan to actually kill shit with smite for wte reason right

[zinc phoenix]

Yes

[clear heath]

It still incentivizes holding by spreading more when you hold it longer

[fathom adder]

But then how will Redditors smugly remind you that it's a TEAM GAME and there's no such thing as TEAMWORK in the TEAM GAME if there are no dedicated support builds?

[upper sun]

noooooooooo

i hate coherency i hate coherency

[olive ember]

I’m ngl my view has always been “darktide is a game where you play as a solo player who happens to help out and get help from 3 other solo players”

[marble crater]

Help by killing things

[fathom adder]

Like I remember people in the Vermintide 2 sub insisting that teamwork was dead if weapons and characters/talents didn't have hard separation between specific roles.

For some reason they were still unconvinced when I showed them Left 4 Dead and said "Behold: A game with no teamwork!"

[jovial juniper]

So which one is it?

Tapping for CCing

Or hold for killing

Or are you going to tell me it's build dependant?

Because I'll take that

[olive ember]

build dependant lol

[clear heath]

depends on if you took EP

[olive ember]

If you run something like pygex's lmb spam build, you are utilizing EP smite as hoard clear, cuz the rest of your kit is based around lmb spam single target surge staff.

At best you can run something like the hsword or wte hoard clear melee psyker uses nowadays

But pmuch any other staff build I'd say smite is only really used for CC. imo at least

[mint sluice]

This new two handed force sword sounds interesting I hope it's good lol

[olive ember]

Some of us have been waiting for it for like 2 years now so heres hoping its not hot trash lmao

[patent mango]

if its bad its so over

[ornate hamlet]

hello i was wondering whats a good build for a level 23 psyker trying to climb the ranks>?

what weps, talents etc?

they got reset cuz i haven't played in a while

[upper sun]

they got reset because the tree was changed

but yeah assail is gonna do more damage than weapons before you level what higui posted is good

[jovial juniper]

Hmmm I should've pointed what should be taken after those 23 points

Guess I'm a consistently bad teacher

[ornate hamlet]

ah okay and wat weps are best? I have the rapier and laspistol

[jovial juniper]

Yeah those go great with that keystone

[kindred edge]

What's the most ammo efficient ranged weapon for a gunker?

I want to try the build but don't want to be an ammo vacuum

[upper galleon]

whatever kills fastest

probably a viag or the high damage recon

the way you supplement ammo is to use assail

[jovial juniper]

Should be infantry lasgun or vigilant
But those don't have the burst damage
Plus Assail just helps ammo economy

A lot

[kindred edge]

Right, well, my plan is to use SG to build peril while I shoot, then swap to assail at 100% peril and just dump all shards with Warp Unbound.

[nocturne dust]

Gunker normally swaps to assail a lot so you can go a whole match without picking up ammo

[kindred edge]

Okay. Sounds like I really just need to use assail more lol

[nocturne dust]

That normally happens on Vraks or Recon if I'm spamming assail

Only really pull out the guns for bosses really

but I also invest in assail more than most gunker builds

[kindred edge]

Okay. I've got a godroll recon, so I'll try out maybe Hsword + recon + assail, and just use assail more than I have been.

[nocturne dust]

I normally use Illisi as melee and do the typical "gunker is assailker is meleeker" hybrid shenanigans

Can't speak much for Hsword since I hate that sword

[kindred edge]

Ah, yeah, okay, so I can use Illisi to build perils if need be.

Hsword IX is so good though.

[nocturne dust]

I mean it's a weapon

Hsword on psyker just ain't good though imo, feels awful

[kindred edge]

Fair, I've not run it on psyker yet

[zinc phoenix]

Try combat axe or tacaxe with bromentum

[kindred edge]

I'm quite familiar with bromentum Rashad lol

[steel flame]

do chainaxe XII with bloodletter and thunderous

[kindred edge]

Does chaxe work well on psyker? I've only had good results with it on zealot

[steel flame]

shredder still one taps ragers and mutants

and straight up murders maulers and crushers

[kindred edge]

Hate getting stuck in place on special attack though

I'll try it out

[nocturne dust]

It's an acquired taste

[steel flame]

gimme one sec

[wind jay]

you can dodge out of specials attacks now i thought

[zinc phoenix]

Tacaxe is really good tho for psyker

The cleave is very nice

[kindred edge]

You can, but the big damage is on the last tick

[kindred edge]

I'll give that a shot too. I just got done with the mastery for it on my zealot. It felt okay.

The only mastery I have left across all classes is the damn shredder pistol

feelsbadman.jpg

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lag-999ms-ping-lagging-delay-gif-25051830

My current experience

[steel flame]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/j95ARJHDf--WfwRlQ?invite=cr-MSxTQnosMjUyNjQ3MjMwLA

hehe shredder go brr

you can push attack out of the shredder

[brazen warren]

so is two handed force sword going to go hard or is it going to be eh

[steel flame]

its a one touch for ragers and all specials and a bit more for maulers and crushers

[jovial juniper]

We don't really know

[brazen warren]

[jovial juniper]

🫡

[wind jay]

it's gonna go hard

i saw it in a dream

[clear heath]

I don't think we even have footage of it yet right?

[zinc phoenix]

Beloved told ya

[zinc phoenix]

Not even an in game picture yet

[brazen warren]

from the grim protocol steam announcement

had to pull the pic from another site becuase it wouldnt let me copy it direct

[patent mango]

FORCE GREATSWORD IS STILL REAAAAL

[nocturne dust]

This is a dream, sibling

[patent mango]

THE DREAM IS REAAAAL

[loud slate]

do we actually get this in the coming update?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

siblings only 10 more days until force greatsword

[brazen warren]

apparently it is going to have a faster move set than the 2h power sword

[radiant frigate]

at least until zealot attack speed comes in..

hi martyr hi fotf

[marble crater]

As long as it's not ogryn attack speed we should be fine

[quartz barn]

ayy

[vivid nimbus]

can blitz attacks crit?

[patent mango]

only asasil

[vivid nimbus]

damn

[brazen rampart]

Assail will eat your true aim, too.

[clear heath]

holy shit i just suck at voidstrike

aiming actual projectiles too hard

[brazen rampart]

This is normal for soykers.

[mossy oyster]

no projectile mains

so sad

[brazen rampart]

Soyker mains cannot aim.

Oh also Para I made a db build.

Quite fun.

Assail, illisi, db, scriers.

[mossy oyster]

illisi does not give me the mobility i want

very sad

[vivid nimbus]

was hoping lightning could crit

rip

[mossy oyster]

triple horde clear

kek

[brazen rampart]

I mean, I'm still able to kill armor with illisi.

And my db is mainly for obliterating elites in a mixed horde.

[mossy oyster]

consider the following

use your DB for maulers

[brazen rampart]

Yes.

I do that.

[jovial juniper]

Would proc EE too often making you virtually invincible against ranged
Can't have that

[brazen rampart]

I just jork my illisi to murder crushers.

[mossy oyster]

takes too long to jork

and jorking doesnt make me run

https://tenor.com/view/majima-goro-majima-yakuza-kiwami-yakuza-kiwami-gif-23377545

[brazen rampart]

That's valid but also like, I can't use my knife yet.

It's like 390 with 27% damage.

Need to upgrade it a bunch and I'm broke on diamantine.

[mossy oyster]

ok noob moments

[haughty star]

mastering everything takes a REALLY large amount of resources

[fathom adder]

IIRC it takes around 300k Dockets and 3000 Plasteel to master a weapon from zero to full, if you are purely doing it by buying grey items from Brunt's and upgrading them to Green to sacrifice (you get the same value from any quality so no point going to Blue or higher).

There are what, 58 weapons in the game? 17.4M Dockets and 174k Plasteel

[ornate hamlet]

yeah what do i get next?

i got lingering influence for now

[jovial juniper]

Iirc the yellow ones first then the blue ones
From top to bottom

[clear heath]

Feels nice to do top melee damage on psyker vs 3 zealots

[tame venture]

in the current state of things, for Gunker, how do the different marks of the IAG stack up?

i think it's the vraks that's the old columbus, but since they all can have the proper blessings which are worthwhile?

[nocturne dust]

I mean Vraks is definitely the best. The others are like... guns. 🤷‍♂️

They exist. They're serviceable.

[jovial juniper]

Agri can use Susfire or whatever the salvo

Columnus is whatever

[minor wedge]

SO THAT WAS INTENSE

[jovial juniper]

Vraks Dumdum Deathspitter or some utility one

[mossy oyster]

1 death

barely intense...........

[ripe bear]

dump stat deulling sword

[minor wedge]

Yeah! because we scraped by on our teeth. SO many close calls

[jovial juniper]

Cleave or mobility

[ornate hamlet]

how is catachan mk1 for psyker?

or maccabian mk v?

[frail harness]

Does Kinetic Deflection work with the counter on Devil's Claw?

[jovial juniper]

Yes

[narrow bobcat]

How did you guys get Malleus Monstronum?

[jovial juniper]

Devil's Claw 1 has moveset problems (no real strikedowns)

Try the 4 or 7

[ebon nymph]

On Voidstrike: Warp nexus and focused channeling or warp flurry?

[jovial juniper]

Nexus Surge is right there
But Nexus Flurry is alright

[frail harness]

Trying to figure out what even works with a melee psyker build.

[prime elk]

Rashad

[frail harness]

I guess Surge staff makes sense

[frail harness]

I'd like to try the devil's claw with Kinetic Deflection

trying to figure out the secondary

I've got Vet Rashad and Zealot Rashad and both are great

[radiant frigate]

i recommend deimos

but what i recommend also is waiting 9 days for force greatsword!!

it's peak

[frail harness]

I've not explained myself well: I'm trying the Devil's claw on multiple characters and trying to get good at the parry

(I am not good at it rn lol)

[radiant frigate]

it's shrimple

you see something that attacks you and you press special

it has lingering block during the counterstrike now

with KD you can counterstrike rager packs to death

[nocturne dust]

which doesn't block overheads, just to note

but the actual parry can

[radiant frigate]

oh so the old "trash mob ate my parry so the crusher turned me into paste" situation still applies

cool

[nocturne dust]

wish I had recorded when I experienced that in-game

[frail harness]

this is probably better

Devil's claw w/ Shred + Surge staff probably

I still need to try out the reload perk with combat shotguns

But that's for a different build

[ebon nymph]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-ludwig-my-true-mentor-my-guiding-moonlight-moonlight-gif-20321022

[patent mango]

https://tenor.com/tPbc2WYsftg.gif

[ornate hamlet]

is that u

[patent mango]

yes

[clear heath]

Anyone down to play a few games?

[jovial juniper]

I'd say yes but I'm falling asleep

[clear heath]

wake up!

[jovial juniper]

Nuh uh

[pine relic]

Unless you can parry bullets, don't bother.

[frail harness]

lol

[steady yarrow]

voidstrike still meta?

[analog agate]

They all can be meta

[nocturne dust]

Still undeniably strong but not max meta, in fact probably the weakest staff (but not by much) imo. Still good.

[steady yarrow]

That's fun, they're all fairly balanced now?

I really wanna check out this 2h force sword.

[analog agate]

Yeah, staves are all balanced well (when flurry isn’t bugged on electro)

[nocturne dust]

They're all pretty close together in strength, yeah.

[ornate hamlet]

what mod is this

[ornate hamlet]

ty

[hushed egret]

do force swords have a higher base crit chance?

[paper harbor]

Nah

[hushed egret]

coolio

[tame venture]

psyker as a class does though, compared to zealot and vet. ogryn has a lower one too

[hushed egret]

ye

[plucky flax]

Zealot? Just take piety

And knife on top

Crit machine

[nocturne dust]

Force Greatsword will have 100% base crit chance

Source: The God-Emperor

[restive slate]

Force Greatsword has cleave like Achlys combat axe H1

I do wonder how Heavy Power sword will work

[nocturne dust]

Like normal power sword

I imagine based on the description it will toggle into a charged state that makes it stronger than normal powersword, but then overheats and has a cooldown where's it's a mediocre weapon.

[restive slate]

Sounds like they're forcing us to play with Unpowered Sword

[tight saddle]

you have to rub it on your force nipples to activate its force power

[unreal wasp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyrDgEz3DR0

Psy-knight 2: Heretical Boogaloo

[tame venture]

how much can psyker really even use double barrel anyway

i feel like you wouldn't be able to sustain it on gunker

[unreal wasp]

Funny thing is I don't currently use DB, that's just the easiest picture of my psyker I could find

Also like to think my psyker with a force greatsword is going to be the 40k equivalent of Grail Knight (max height, Seer voice)

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1308808904469250058/image.png?ex=6743e807&is=67429687&hm=efcbdb86820ea5b1f3694f5fc5065008703a4ddbaa47c73a71f49860f53c88cf&

There, surge enjoyer

Still an old pic because that's pre-voidblast/trauma mastery skin

[radiant frigate]

hell yeah

[gleaming belfry]

I play maelstrom exclusively, im that good

[paper harbor]

You join their club

[radiant frigate]

oh that's funny

[gleaming belfry]

fun fact there was a new years eve goth/dark electro party in the area where I live named "Totentanz" for several years xD

[plucky flax]

Teach me please I'm still in sedition.

[tight saddle]

If it's the Bretonnian Longsword moveset I will be the happiest Psyker ever

[plucky flax]

If the big sword is good my gun psyker with mk12 las recon is going to be cooking.

Warp splitting for big cleave on big sword?

[wind spruce]

Meh, it'll likely already have good cleave

[gleaming belfry]

I wonder if it will make the charged strike / enfeeble psyker and/or the shred/blazing spirit melee psyker more viable. Thats what I personally hope for

[proper elbow]

Does lightning staff Surge blessing apply to the secondary or just the primary?

[paper harbor]

No it’s a projectile base (primary only or voidstrike secondary too)

[split lance]

i do this before every game

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike:

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-11399444358411290094

[plucky flax]

It's also for assails.

@cosmic sigil gaming?

[gleaming belfry]

I use clamps, its like some of the mods for the game - borderline cheating

: P

[wet lance]

What are some good pysker builds atm? And I do not want to play the spammy quell cancel thingy.

[marble crater]

Voidblast my beloved

[marble crater]

Voidblast Staff with crit chance, flak damage, Nexus, Blazing Spirit. Dueling sword with maniac, carapace, uncanny and something else you like

Last point is either of the two I circled

[plucky flax]

Gun either with gazer or creeping flames. Surge staff right click. Burga.

[celest valve]

wait. kinetic resonance stacks with itself????

ok now i understand a big reason why psykers run flat shield

[marble crater]

[celest valve]

ok seeing someone spam brain burst with less than a second cast time is cool

[plucky flax]

Bistol

[summer prairie]

I barely play anything besides bistol anymore, some surge

[plucky flax]

I recently swapped out assail cleave for warp splitting.

Seems to be more efficient with weaving.

[summer prairie]

I run both

[plucky flax]

On my recon las gazer build I run both together though. But on bistol I use creeping flames so points are limited.

[radiant frigate]

hell yeah

[summer prairie]

with DD?

[plucky flax]

Ye with dd of course to boost assails.

[summer prairie]

What are you using the assail cleave point for

[radiant frigate]

siblings can you believe it only 9 more days until force greatsword!!

[plucky flax]

I dunno just normal stuff I need.

Bistol creeping flames

[summer prairie]

Ah, I haven't been running EE

assail kind of seems to stagger everything anyway

[plucky flax]

Aye but when you have to solo clutch and there's shotgunners at the back. It's nice for free evade.

Saved me a few times here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en720aSwEJg

[radiant frigate]

oh is that the one where scriptures were always nearby?

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

A SCRIPTURE IS NEARBY PLEASE GRAB IT

I think it's just behind the door.

[upper sun]

I HATE BOOKS I HATE READING

IDC IF WE HAVE 4 PSYKERS IM TAKING THE AMMO

[plucky flax]

The mettle speed boost is so cool it's my fav.

[marble crater]

What about the penance?

[upper sun]

sir i have ~600 seditions

i have all the bs penances

[compact cargo]

Use the see througha walls scripture psyker

[plucky flax]

@summer prairie there's this recoil fix mod. I tried it with bistol but I don't think it does anything?

Scam mod.

[upper sun]

its prolly conflicting with your other 28475 crosshair mods

[plucky flax]

But it lets me aim easier.

Veri op

(cheat)

[upper sun]

😭

i only played voidstrike for the week where it had different crosshairs

[summer prairie]

I saw it but didn't try it. I did notice when testing recoil at some point that the pointer sometimes suddenly snaps to a different position instead of moving smoothly

[plucky flax]

The preview video was done in meatgrinder but that's always going to be different from real game.

I tried it and I honestly can't tell if it does anything. Bistol sometimes still does the funny jerk.

[summer prairie]

Apparently recoil gets validated serverside, the mod might make it look visually different though

[nocturne dust]

This is why 🅱️istol is a travesty and should be put to the fire

[steel flame]

Sure would be nice if it wasn't bugged and didn't work for trauma and purgatus charge

[nocturne dust]

and did work for them, you mean?

[steel flame]

Yeah it worked for trauma at the very least back before it was nerfed to once per attack

[nocturne dust]

Unnerf mettle, unnerf true aim

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[zinc phoenix]

Bistol is the perfect gun

[steel flame]

I don't understand why this has been allowed to be in the game from the dam start, it's a travesty

[zinc phoenix]

Don’t aim, kill everything anyway

[summer prairie]

perfect pair for assail, also don't have to aim

friends forever

[zinc phoenix]

Also you can learn the barrel position when drawing for gunslinger quick draw and shoot

Which is really fun

[nocturne dust]

You're right, if it wasn't 🅱️istol it would be perfect.

[zinc phoenix]

Doing a shot when the gun is still partly in the “holster” and still nailing the trapper is always fun

[steel flame]

You're a stafflover, your gunker takes are invalid

[zinc phoenix]

Centralize the melee perks 😤

[nocturne dust]

I use guns sometimes.

[zinc phoenix]

Let my people stab 🔪

[nocturne dust]

Meleeker/Staffker???

[zinc phoenix]

I would love it if ER and a TDR perk were something you had to choose between as an OR gate and every other part of the tree was downstream of them

That would be really cool

Do you want to be a beefker or a peril enjoyer

[nocturne dust]

No make it speed

Speed for psyker No need for stupid TDR

[steel flame]

Not sure id want to choose between those, makes er even less appealing

[zinc phoenix]

Oooh that is a good idea

[zinc phoenix]

Ideally the TDR would be coupled to increased peril gen

So you’d pick between being a beefcake who can’t go as hard on staff spam or a fragile butterfly who can staff their merry little balls off

Idk, to me it’s important to offer big dramatic playstyle options more than boring ass “+1% to being more gooder”

[steel flame]

Won't lie psyker kinda does that the best with their tree already

[plucky flax]

It's just funny bolt weapon jank

[steel flame]

Better than the 20 impact perks ogryn has in his already small skill tree

God forbid they give him something interesting that isn't more conditional impact damage

Do a spinning handstand into a quad backflip and you MIGHT be allowed to deal 10% more impact on your heavy attacks

[nocturne dust]

They should give Ogryn a hammer

for more impact

[nocturne dust]

I don't disagree but then it becomes exponentially harder to balance. Keystones are kinda supposed to be the big game changers, but they do that poorly I guess. They just change what you spam rather than the feel I suppose.

More drastic and interesting passive nodes would be cool. Other than ER, the only blue node on the tree that changes how things feel for me is, funnily enough, Anticipation. Mainly because of the dodge duration boost. Messes with my timing.

[frail harness]

Huh. I thought the shield went up into the air more than it does. Even the smallest amount of elevation is enough for gunners to ignore it

[radiant ice]

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-now-we-can-finally-play-the-game-gif-26486523

Finally complete Psyker Master of War

[patent mango]

they could fr just pull an er but htis time it fricks over your ranged to massivelly buff melee

but who knows if we'll need that in 9 days 🔥

[marble crater]

We will have everything we need in 9 days

[rugged spade]

whats Bistol?

[broken carbon]

bolt pistol

[radiant frigate]

polt bistol

[marble crater]

Best pistol

[broken carbon]

shmolt shmistol

[upper sun]

WORST PISTOL

[rugged spade]

for lvling a psyker, whats a good wep loadout?

i learned that the force blade cant block 😦

[broken carbon]

wha

yes it can

all melee weapons can block

[haughty star]

Lol what

[fathom adder]

bistol
:DDDDDD

[haughty star]

Depends on what you wanna do man

Psyker has a TON of ways you can build it and still be effective

[granite kelp]

i had something stuck in my head

if we can banish peril with a shriek, could there be a psyker bard singing inspiring songs really hard to their teammates

id even take a commanding shout

[fathom adder]

While leveling just save your resources and use whatever is the best stuff the game has given you so far.

Also Assail will be stronger than the ranged weapons you will typically be able to use right now.

[granite kelp]

or one step ahead, since sefoni sings into peoples heads, could we have a sufficiently skilled psyker play inspiring music directly into our heads

[fathom adder]

That is the soundtrack, Jesper Kyd is buffing the players directly

[midnight cove]

is there any mod to make my staff auto fire? gonna get carpal tunnel before long with this lmb build lmao

[broken carbon]

full auto mod

[broken carbon]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/87

[midnight cove]

thank god

I only played it for like 3 missions so far but I can tell I won't last long like this lmao

lots of comments on it mentioning that it stops working when you reach 100% peril though, pretty counterintuitive for me because I was running scriers 😬

[steel flame]

Have they fixed this breaking through fire rate caps?

The first couple of these mods were basically cheating

[broken carbon]

that was other mods

this one doesnt do that

thankfully

[steel flame]

Thank god

[cosmic sigil]

man, i was cooking for the week and after that I went to buy stuff for my bicycle, like a helmet, you know

[steel flame]

I might actually be able to recommend it to people then

[cosmic sigil]

turns out, being aware in darktide of what's happening behind me is quite useful when biking in Rome

[steel flame]

Never know when a crazy Italian woman with a netgun gonna run out of an alley

[cosmic sigil]

true

[ornate hamlet]

which dueling sword version is best i have mk2

[marble crater]

Mk4 imo, mk2 is a bit better against hordes though. Mk4 for big targets

[thorn cedar]

MkII for horde, MKIV for elite deletion, MKV for defense

but lets be honest IV is just best

[prime elk]

MkV for falling off ledges

[shadow wigeon]

FYI You can change the mark of your weapon by selecting it in inventory and choosing Marks

[olive ember]

Wait how is mk 2 better for hordes? Out of curiosity

[upper sun]

heavy 2 has cleave and better damage than light spam

so you can loop light 1 heavy 2

if you want single target damage heavy 1 special heavy 1 loop

[olive ember]

🤔

[cosmic sigil]

@radiant frigate uwu

[radiant frigate]

uwu

good effort keith

[cosmic sigil]

i am bit sad

[radiant frigate]

yes me too

[cosmic sigil]

those bursters were really nasty

[radiant frigate]

it was going well until it wasn't

i guess you were swinging at the spawn door?

and then kaboom

[cosmic sigil]

yes

i forgot

that's on me

[radiant frigate]

give me burster resist on curios, and i will straight up run three of them

[cosmic sigil]

same lmao

[mossy oyster]

corruption resist + HP

theres your burster resist

[radiant frigate]

of which i do run some

[edgy garnet]

I’m not at my PC. What is the power up difference between all of the force swords?

[radiant frigate]

deimos and obscurus are the same (start a channel on the first target hit and then blow their noggin off)
illisi's empower makes the next swing more powerful overall, more stagger, more cleave, more damage

[cosmic sigil]

damn

[marble crater]

Force greatsword will delete the map upon power up

[unreal adder]

Best psyker horde clear melee weapon?

[prime elk]

Illisi or Rashad

[calm sapphire]

ilisi

[marble crater]

Trauma staff

[unreal adder]

Wait Rashad is an axe? That can't be good horde clear

[fathom adder]

It isn't, without Brutal Momentum

[unreal adder]

Brutal momentum too finicky for me. I'm just looking for something with decent sweeps with a bit of stagger or cleave to keep back swarms of unarmored. Force sword or assault chainsword maybe?

[prime elk]

Wdym you just hit weakspots lol

It’s as easy as it gets

Otherwise illisi

[marble crater]

Illisi is your choice then

[broken carbon]

for horde clear, mk13g chainsword, illisi,

[bleak maple]

Just had the pleasure of two gunkers absolutely abusing the game into bordem, is there some meta people are abusing to just thanos snap the session?

[broken carbon]

thats just ur average psyker player

then they get mad when i run ahead so i can have fun

[bleak maple]

I knew gunker was good but it actually became boring

[broken carbon]

the psyker player conundrum

[broken carbon]

psyker is absurdly broken rn

some of the regulars here wont admit it

say its because psyker is a "glass cannon"

[prime elk]

I’ve pretty much stopped playing psyker lol

It’s just boring

[broken carbon]

yarp

[bleak maple]

Yeah I'm used to psykers being good and op at times but this literally made the session just dull

[broken carbon]

the most fun psyker build's ive seen are like

DB shotgun

that para uses

[bleak maple]

I might as well have played lvl 1 missions I might have gotten more kills

[prime elk]

Mind sharing this? 🤔

[hardy tulip]

Anyone know its possible to do Serial Killer penance with Brain Burst?

[broken carbon]

its @mossy oyster 's build, but ill send it in just a sec

[broken carbon]

can also be run with DB

wait

hold on

[broken carbon]

this is the db build

i think its the same but

yah

[upper sun]

i like taking warp exp on gunker because it lets me regen toughness when i ult :33333

[mossy oyster]

its actually less defensive now

[haughty star]

You do that by killing

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[upper sun]

its CUTE

[haughty star]

Procs quietide by lowering sg peril

[upper sun]

press F toughness goes up

let me larp as a vet in peace

[haughty star]

Barely

[hardy tulip]

Thanks.

[haughty star]

Oh that would be venting shriek and quietides interaction

[upper sun]

its shriek at home

[haughty star]

Its not that expenditure is bad its just fucking terrible compared to almost anything else

[upper sun]

yea

its kinda bad tbh

but its CUTE

[broken carbon]

is this with same knife and DB

[mossy oyster]

ye

[broken carbon]

damn

[haughty star]

I like psyker. It's incredibly rewarding if you are good at never getting hit. Perfect glass cannon setup 👌

Reminds me of Amara from BL3

[mossy oyster]

more like maya from bl2

run around and kill everything at mach 11

but i guess thats if youre gunker

[tulip kettle]

relationship ended with blazing trauma

i finally fell in love with surge

[haughty star]

Blazing trauma is meh

[tulip kettle]

sorry electro

[haughty star]

Surge is easy, voidstrike is Bae, and inferno is slow and boring

Is how I rate them

[tulip kettle]

ive hated surge since day 1

but i forced myself to play it this weekend and i finally like it

[haughty star]

Surge is so easy lol. There are instances where voidstrike will out pace it and inferno will always out horde it but it's really strong for special and elite mitigation

[tulip kettle]

i mean all of the staves are really good lets be honest

i dont like inferno because of the lack of balls on lmb but otherwise they all perform really well

[haughty star]

Most have a pretty directly more powerful version that consumes ammo

[tulip kettle]

surge was never about how good it was for me, i just didnt like it

it was weird how quiet it is for one thing

[haughty star]

Flamer is deffo more powerful tit for tat but ammo, plasma is better than VS but ammo, etc

[fathom adder]

Trauma Voidblast is decent if you like safety more than fun

[tulip kettle]

i mean blazing trauma puts out numbers like no other staff and is also safe at the same time, i agree

then you go in with nurgles blessing and get fucked instantly because of the bad habits trauma has let you develop

[haughty star]

I learned this yesterday thinking I could cheese one with a EP build lol

Ep smite does not fare well in gurgles blessing

I see that typo and I'm okay with it ngl

[tulip kettle]

yup burgles blessing is the worst modifier imo

complewtely changes the game

cant push dogs

cant stagger ragers

dumb

[clear heath]

you can still push green dogs

[haughty star]

Not with firearms or anything other than a direct shove

[tulip kettle]

i have been caught twice just today when i pushed a green dog

[clear heath]

push better

[tulip kettle]

yeah i try

does the surge blessing ever proc on charged electro shots? i couldnt really tell or ever notice it happening

[clear heath]

no

balls only

[tulip kettle]

thought so

[haughty star]

Yeah no unless you use lmb alot it's nexus and flurry all the way for surge staff

[tulip kettle]

i do use lmb a lot which is why i was experimenting with it

[haughty star]

There is builds centered around using the quell cancel mod or the in game double bind or macro for it

[tulip kettle]

charges so fast anyway

was honestly considering run n gun for the memes

[haughty star]

Like, DD and shit

Surge blessing on surge stave will quell cancel nonsense is fun as hell but people here don't like it

[tulip kettle]

any insights why sometimes the secondary rmb target takes considerable dmg but normally just gets tickles

[haughty star]

Crits

Thing lives on crits

[tulip kettle]

thats what the crit does?

i know so little about this staff

[haughty star]

Yeah the heavy bold looking arcs are crits

And they generally fuck shit up

[prime elk]

Thanks!

[prime elk]

I just realized this is quite similar to my Rashad bonker build

I didn’t invest in soul blaze though

Not sure if it’s worth of going primarily right side

[haughty star]

Perilous is always worth

[thorn cedar]

Perilous is borderline mandatory

[haughty star]

Its a free 3 stacks of soulblaze for anything around it. It helps single target things light right side psyker excel at crowd clear

[prime elk]

eh

at low stacks it hardly does shit

maybe i'll test at some point, but eh

[marble crater]

Perilous my beloved

[haughty star]

Weird take

3 stacks melts all the ads around it, 6 stacks starts melting all the other specials and elites.. hardly not shit imo lol

[thorn cedar]

its five stacks before it starts to do anything, assuming you have no other bonuses running

but that's two elite/special kills

out of the ten shotgunners you are staring at

it's stupid strong

[patent mango]

perilous is jolly

[haughty star]

3 is fairly decent for the unarmored dudes. 5 or 6 will start burning down specials and shit

[thorn cedar]

6 stacks doesnt even kill a dreg bruiser

but again that doesnt really matter, you arent going to "only" get six stacks. one well placed revolver shot can get you 12 stacks out instantly

[late sapphire]

6 stacks clears chaff

[thorn cedar]

thats four stacks of MM

that buffs your soulblaze

and then the soulblaze buffs your guns and melee

because MM again

its a disgusting feedback loop

[late sapphire]

pc is just peak because it scales with how much trouble you are in

ok if you are killing 4 bruisers it doesn't do anything

but then you face a mauler patrol and you kill 6 and the other 12 just die on their own and you piss n shit yourself from joy

[haughty star]

Kill 3 ragers and all the rahers just start dying

I really like rlg and perilous just makes that thing dummy thicc

[radiant frigate]

ok siblings did anyone think it was a good idea to let fanatic have our dueling sword

[scarlet garden]

Sharing is caring

Zealot get sword

U get

Moral support

[radiant frigate]

but then zealot does zealot things with that sword

builds for one morbillion crit

runs at the speed of sound

and kills everything in one hit

it is concerning

good thing we have force greatsword in 9 days

[patent mango]

no i was instantly worried and thinking "theres no way they'll a ctually give zealot it right"

[radiant frigate]

giving it to vet i can see, officer's saber aesthetic and whatnot

but what is that doing on zealot

[tulip kettle]

based take

[radiant frigate]

the class that (supposedly) represents low finesse big bonks

[tulip kettle]

i completely agree

[scarlet garden]

Funny thing zealor gets powersword too lmao

[tulip kettle]

made 99 good changes

and 1 catastrophic one

[patent mango]

i understand them giving ds now that we have force gs coming up

[tulip kettle]

giving other classes DS

[patent mango]

but at the same time it shoulda been a weaker variant

[radiant frigate]

they already had k-nif

[patent mango]

knoif

[round gull]

My psyker friends,is Illisi sword not buyable anymore in Brunt's Armoury?

[patent mango]

its a mark for force sword

[tulip kettle]

you buy the force sword

[radiant frigate]

weapon marks are freely changeable

[tulip kettle]

then change the mark in the menus

[radiant frigate]

buy force sword

declare it to be illisi

[patent mango]

i think with ds they gotta at least reduce its attack speed scaling

[radiant frigate]

get tired of it? declare it is now deimos

[round gull]

OHHHHHH

I see

[tulip kettle]

i have a bug where when i change the MK of a weapon it shows 100% for all stats

[round gull]

Thanks friends,my beloved will compensate you...not killing you

[plucky flax]

Head protection is cool.

[radiant frigate]

yes me too

[clear heath]

I've been having a lot of fun with melee psyker with illisi

[tulip kettle]

we can dream

[clear heath]

Precog with DD Scriers goes hard

[tulip kettle]

yeah, did they change the mopve order of illisi at some point?

[clear heath]

Illisi moveset has been the same since it came out

[tulip kettle]

the moveset sure

[clear heath]

It lost infinite dodges and gained some damage like all the other force swords

[tired estuary]

I don't think it was a good idea to let anybody have it tbh

[round gull]

how do I get those?

oh nvm

I got it

[tulip kettle]

but i could have sworn you used to L1 diagonal into H2 horizontal

and now its the other way around

[clear heath]

nah that's obscurus

[tulip kettle]

maybe im trippin

[fathom adder]

Be Fatshark
Make [Forge World] Mk[Number]
Declare it to be [Different Forge World] Mk[Number]

Many such cases!

[tired estuary]

tbf that's shit the imperium would do too

[clear heath]

obscurus horde combo was l1 h2 for diagonals

but no one uses that anymore

[patent mango]

obscurus is so goofy

[clear heath]

Or maybe you're thinking of illisi's push -> light -> heavy for all horizontals

[round gull]

How do you see the new double hand sword they will add?

[tulip kettle]

yeah probably

[patent mango]

uh forum post

thers an image of it

[round gull]

oh really?

[tulip kettle]

it was a long break between playing illisi tbf

[patent mango]

yeah

[thorn cedar]

it came to us in a dream

[patent mango]

i can post it in a sec

[radiant frigate]

graia infantry autogun renamed to columnus infantry autogun
columnus infantry autogun renamed to vraks infantry autogun
vraks headhunter autogun renamed to graia headhunter autogun

A G O N Y

[round gull]

Precious

And what do you think about it?

[tulip kettle]

the autoguns i couldnt care less

[radiant frigate]

NEED