psyker-class

[late yew]

Singing spear would go well on psyker

[nocturne dust]

no

It was Hadron learning to not suck

[patent mango]

hadron was the one breaking stuff lmao

hadron hit our weapons with a warhammer instantly bricking it

[mental grail]

she was teaching us stuff according to mourningstar comms, no?

[nocturne dust]

Iirc ripper guns literally have a limiter on them because Ogryns will not stop firing

[late yew]

i mean

why would you

[patent mango]

none of our rejects stop firing

[late yew]

YOU KNOW WHAT THIS GAM ENEEDS

Fuller auto

[nocturne dust]

because everything is dead

[plucky flax]

Do the inquisition not lynch you for using aliens tech?

[mental grail]

they will

[plucky flax]

Eldar weapon?

[late yew]

Inquisition may use alien tech themselves

Well at least give me Needle pistols

[plucky flax]

But we are not big dawgs.

We are the lil' bois.

[nocturne dust]

There are actually 2 schools of thought, one is that it's okay to use heresy to destroy heresy, the other is Zealot with a flamer

if I'm not mistaken

[mental grail]

Morrow asks how our training is going after the update along, so presumably we got handed "here's how not to break shit" booklets.

[nocturne dust]

but again I'm just a non-40k nerd 🤓

remembering passing conversations soooo

I am hearsay

[modest perch]

Depends entirely on the inquisitor

[upper sun]

nah trainning is for low level chars

[mental grail]

wdym?

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

the guys in that training blog didnt even know how to reload guns

[upper sun]

ye that

[late yew]

what

How is that possible

[mental grail]

Oh, fair enough, I just heard Morrow yapping at Hadron over the vox and assumed it was for us

[patent mango]

lore blog

idk probably level 1

[upper sun]

short story about madam whos or whats it

[patent mango]

the ogryn managed to jam a ripper gun in it

[nocturne dust]

well somebody has to tell them

[upper sun]

yeah she just yells at people to aim correctly and how to reload

basic stuff

[nocturne dust]

Take pointy end of stick

[late yew]

Sefoni can yell at me any time

[nocturne dust]

Insert into heretic

Profit

[mental grail]

They hand prison convict rejects a plasmagun, they can give us a multimelta

[patent mango]

u could get a multimelta in rogue trader

[late yew]

also bolters for that matter

[nocturne dust]

I mean we've pretty clearly evolved into a special ops team given train

[late yew]

You could also get eldar weapnry in RT

[nocturne dust]

probably because everyone who didn't survive the suicide missions... didn't survive.

Survivorship bias

Rejects OP

[patent mango]

ye

funniest thing is u can get a singing spear in rt

but its just like bad lol

[mental grail]

If a multimelta is too "fragile" for an ogryn, what about a multilas, or heavy bolter?

[nocturne dust]

I would imagine it's the same situation

[mental grail]

really? no shit?? 👀

[nocturne dust]

Bolter ain't exactly ripper gun simple

[patent mango]

wuh

[modest perch]

Idk bolters look pretty sturdy

[patent mango]

im just saying its bad lol

[mental grail]

where?

[patent mango]

i wanted an ogryn in rt

[nocturne dust]

Because they have to be to fire bolts Doesn't mean they don't need maintenance and constant care

[modest perch]

And we ogryns clearly have the intelligence and dexterity to reload a belt fed mg at warp speed under pressure

[upper sun]

🤔 actually

[nocturne dust]

Ripper guns look barbaric because they're made to be bashed into enemies and slapped into walls, the way Ogryns do

[upper sun]

why does lady whats her name train the psykers

shouldnt it be sephoni

[nocturne dust]

This is true, our Ogryns seem to be significantly smarter than normal Ogryns given dialogue

[buoyant maple]

The best ogryn could get would be a lascannon

[upper sun]

no

give ogryn chain shield

[buoyant maple]

But it’d be difficult to accurately portray what a lascannon is capable of without power creeping gunlugger to hell

[nocturne dust]

Give Ogryn Tank Armor

[patent mango]

that sounds so goofy

[modest perch]

Yea srsly. My ogryn (the mean one) has the presence of mind to actually be misanthropic

[upper sun]

CHAIN SHIELD

[buoyant maple]

Didn’t they just give ogryn tank Armor cosmetic today

[nocturne dust]

Oh I haven't checked cosmetics

[patent mango]

the sets r ok but theres cool extra stuff on the side

[nocturne dust]

Too expensive

[buoyant maple]

The best stuff imo
Power backpack
Veteran’s prosthetic legs
Shock maul skin
Ogryn body armor
Pickaxes skin

Don’t much care for the rest

[patent mango]

this one is funny

damn expensive tho got damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1400 aquilas im not rich

[nocturne dust]

Why can't psykers get normal cosmetics

[radiant frigate]

satisfactory

[late yew]

i hate paid cosmetics

[radiant frigate]

something normal-looking without the god damned tubes for once PLEASE

[buoyant maple]

If it’s 4 digits in aquila cost and is not Cadian / tempestus scion / lucifer black / tannith , I don’t want it

[late yew]

i am fine with tubes

[nocturne dust]

inb4 they give tubeless collar

[mental grail]

They do canonically carry autocannons too.

[buoyant maple]

I don’t think Autocannon is as powerful as lascannon in lore

I could be wrong

[patent mango]

get a bigger autocannon

[mental grail]

ur so real

[patent mango]

1 dodge car sized autocannon

[nocturne dust]

"It ain't a gun if it don't weigh at least 500 pounds"

[upper sun]

https://tenor.com/view/pierce-brosnan-nodding-mmm-ok-gif-18057992

[patent mango]

isnt that close to what we getting

or is that a stubber

[upper sun]

thats not an ogryn

thats just an average british man

[buoyant maple]

That’s a regular heavy stubber

[patent mango]

oh lol

[buoyant maple]

They’ve shown images of the new weapons in grim protocols

[radiant frigate]

it looks like a kachunkachunk

[patent mango]

this is true

tbh just give ogryn a rock backpack as a ranged weapon

[hazy moss]

hey guys will a 420 rating 17% toughness curio give more toughness than a 410 rating 17% toughness curio?

[patent mango]

no

[mental grail]

no

[patent mango]

no decimals

[mental grail]

420 is the overall power rating

something else on the other curio is slightly shittier, but it's not that toughness blessing

[nocturne dust]

untrue

You can have a maxed curio at 410

[gaunt slate]

are these named bundles something?

is it just cosmetics or do they have new voicelines or smth

[nocturne dust]

just cosmetics and a lore description

but you see the lore in the shop

[patent mango]

they should give rocks 1% chance to be a brick instead

[rigid sky]

Spare servo-skull

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/for-a-brick-he-flew-pretty-good-halo2-halo2anniversary-maxenmajs-gif-21038830

[rigid sky]

Hadron whines at you when you throw it

"You'll be replacing that one day, varlet!"

[mental grail]

FatShark create a straightforward game mechanic (impossible)

[analog agate]

You can tell FS wanted to do way more with curios but never managed to get there. Which is one of the reasons the overall rating is so weird

[keen solar]

Alright siblings

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d8b9708-49bb-4a46-bfde-30383045c493/psyker-shieldguard

My build in prep for the Force Greatsword

[analog agate]

No warp rider?

[keen solar]

Depending on the blessings it has, it could get rly spicy

[keen solar]

So, Malefic Momentum is basically the same thing, and is quite good on the Illisi

Since the normal attacks count as non warp

and the special does

So you can stack both dmg bonuses rly easy

Then take advantage of Bloodthirsty and Precog for the guanteed fat sword hits at close range

Warp Charges give more CD and Survivability since you have lower than I prefer toughness.

If you wanted to sacrifice Psykinetics aura for less ult uptime but more dmg totally up to you

Or Maleific Momentum, but it is basically a free 20% dmg bonus

[radiant frigate]

20% damage is good but 20% damage twice is more gooderer

[keen solar]

Yes, but I personally prefer having more bubble shields up during a match.

Makes it easier to dispose of the ranged

[radiant frigate]

also, bloodthirsty with no crit synergies feels weird

no mettle or thingymajig

[keen solar]

Precognition?

[radiant frigate]

perfect timing

[keen solar]

That's literally what it's there for

To get buffed with Precog for free crits without having to build for it

Shred might be better passively, but since you want to spam the special so much anyways

[patent mango]

might use this for force gs

[radiant frigate]

ok but why not pick up mettle and perfect timing then

[keen solar]

Because I feel they're overkill, the goal isn't crit synergy per se, more so passive dmg and survivability.

I'm certainly hoping the GS isn't just a heavy evis copy

And more like the Illisi's big brother

[patent mango]

they said its more like pickaxe moveset wise

or something like that

[keen solar]

I'd be fine with that tbh

I like the pickaxe movesets

[patent mango]

pickaxe movesets are so jolly

[keen solar]

I'm sad I'm gonna be gone when the update drops

My H40 climb is gonna be something

[haughty star]

where?

[patent mango]

ok they didnt say the movesets were like pickaxes but how they were different like pickaxes per mark

so uh thats slightly different

[radiant frigate]

i would appeciate the pickaxes a lot more if they weren't ogryn

the class that just wants to spam heavies

it takes you away from the heavy spam

[patent mango]

ogryn tree so silly

[patent mango]

bot with hecking grim how

[nocturne dust]

sometimes the game glitches out and shows people as bots

[patent mango]

nah guy left

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

ig som1 had to keep the grim

[frail spear]

[fiery stratus]

Im bad at vermintide

Legend deed, ambient elites. Had to use merc ability a ton because bad

[dusk void]

Guys, I realized how much I suck at being a Zealot. I will stick to being a psyker

Also, I still suck as a psyker

Despite my level 820 psyker

[fiery stratus]

psyker is probably the hardest class melee wise

squishest

[dusk void]

I only melee the dogs and mutants

[fiery stratus]

theres your problem

[dusk void]

I use dueling sword to fix it

[mental grail]

💀

[fiery stratus]

this game is heavy melee unless you're only going to play primarily ranged builds. Even then you still need melee fundamentals if you want to do well

[nocturne dust]

This game is super heavy on ranged

[dusk void]

Ranged build

[nocturne dust]

Go play VT2 for melee-heavy gameplay

[fiery stratus]

incorrect

[nocturne dust]

That's a blue build

[patent mango]

whats ranged anyways

[mental grail]

ceiling staring build*

[dusk void]

Hell yeah

Fuck red weapons

[patent mango]

give red weapons unique blessings

[fiery stratus]

bruh

you've played vermitide but dont know melee fundamentals?

if you have like a handful of hours sure

[radiant frigate]

agree to disagree

[patent mango]

if they added a ranged only class i'd just hit people with the gun

[fiery stratus]

you can do that

beat everything with bolter special

rumbler/kickback

[nocturne dust]

Psyker literally spamming ranged at every moment of the day, even relying on assail in melee builds

Vet vetting all over the place

Ogryn dakka-ing the monster

Zealot throwing knives everywhere

[patent mango]

they have a melee tho lol

[nocturne dust]

[mental grail]

it's pretty mixed

[patent mango]

what melee build relies on assail lol

just hit them idk

[nocturne dust]

Like, yes, you can use melee

[mental grail]

I use assail for gunners

when I'm playing melee

[fiery stratus]

but your melee will still be needed, regardless if you're full ranged specced or not

even if its minimal

[nocturne dust]

Sure

Now go play VT2 where melee is the answer to everything

unless you're a dirty javelin player

[fiery stratus]

you can do gun builds in vt2 that shred

on almost every character

[patent mango]

sienna tho

[nocturne dust]

I mean, sure, but those are super-specific builds

[dusk void]

I have never played VT2. Is that bad?

[nocturne dust]

Whereas here, the super-specific builds are for melee

[dusk void]

Also, this is my first FPS game that I actually own

[fiery stratus]

thats all the careers though, its different design from dt

[nocturne dust]

Not really 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

Yes

I never said it wasn't a different design

The games are different, unsurprisingly

[late sapphire]

... or a sienna?

[nocturne dust]

But my point is that VT2 is the actual melee-focused game, Darktide is ranged-focus. That's part of how they differ.

[patent mango]

same game im still playing sienna

[fiery stratus]

For someone who goes down almost everytime we play together, I wouldnt talk too much shit on melee

[radiant frigate]

me literally playing every class with melee focus:

[late sapphire]

or a trollhammer bardin lol

that used to be so good

[nocturne dust]

So do you

[fiery stratus]

you know i end up clutching come on

[nocturne dust]

Lies and hearsay

[patent mango]

heresy?

[radiant frigate]

the trauma staff equivalent of vt2 also exists (coruscation)

[fiery stratus]

hear say

[patent mango]

wouldnt that be the aoe staff in v2

idk what its called

[radiant frigate]

except it is mildly more acceptable because you need to occasionally melee

[late sapphire]

coruscation is peak do not compare it to trauma

[radiant frigate]

so you can keep casting

[radiant frigate]

both are degenerate

[dusk void]

I seriously need to stop playing and go outside once in a while

[proven panther]

After 700 hours I still can't find the fun in playing Psyker. I really hope the upcoming greatsword changes that 😦

[late sapphire]

it's so good though

[patent mango]

once force gs releases its over

[late sapphire]

swapcancel coruscation my beloved

[fiery stratus]

YOU HAVE 1000 HOURS AND YOU DONT KNOW MELEE FUNDAMENTALS?!!

[patent mango]

just stab them idk

[dusk void]

I NEVER SAID I HAD TROUBLE WITH MELEE!!!!!!!!! I SAID I SUCK BECAUSE SHIT HAPPENS

[fiery stratus]

My dude

zealot is literally the strongest and most cheese character in the game

like what

[nocturne dust]

I mean you can, but just like in VT2 you can be ranged focus, it's just kinda weird and suboptimal more often than not

[fiery stratus]

maybe not strongest dps wise

psyker has an edge

but for braindead surviabiltiy, theres no other

[nocturne dust]

Vet: exists

[fiery stratus]

maybe voc

[dusk void]

I JUST HATE PLAYING A ZEALOT. THAT'S ALL

[nocturne dust]

Zealot has best survivability, but Vet is just best cheeser

[fiery stratus]

but, if you had experience and knew fundamentals... you wouldn't have many problems picking it up

[patent mango]

zealot feels more survivable than ogryn

somehow

[fiery stratus]

vet makes more toughness than ogryn can imagine

good design

[patent mango]

ogryn tree feels so limited

[fiery stratus]

every tree

ogryns the worst for sure

[dusk void]

I know the fundamentals. I just hate playing zealot because I love playing psyker. I heavily depend on my ranged weapon instead of my melee weapons. And besides, my fingers get tired after 2 missions of playing zealot

[patent mango]

psyker is genuinely really close to being peak

just needs more melee stuff/force gs being peak

[fiery stratus]

you can just play a weapon that you dont have to swing a ton

[late sphinx]

It is. Hope it gets prioritised over other reworks honestly.

[fiery stratus]

if you

smh

[patent mango]

idk which one fatshark mentioned will be next

i do think they did say

[dusk void]

I just hate playing zealot. That is all

[nocturne dust]

Ogryn has two builds

Zealot has literally 1

[fiery stratus]

using knife or something sure, but zealot has plenty of braindead weapons where basically all you need to do is repeat melees

heavies

[nocturne dust]

I hope Zealot gets reworked first. The one build they have is dumb and boring.

[dusk void]

And yes, I do use a knife for my zealot

[fiery stratus]

that'd be why

knife is clicky af

[patent mango]

zealot is fun but it somehow feels way too frictionless tbh

[fiery stratus]

frictionless?

[patent mango]

like i kinda just turn brain off

[late sphinx]

Looking in this chat longer than a few minutes tells me there's more than one build.

Ogryn doesnt even have a good blitz that isn't his nuke. Which other classes will steal anyway

[nocturne dust]

Rock

[dusk void]

I like LMB & RMB for my psyker. It's simple gameplay

[fiery stratus]

I wont have this rock slander

[nocturne dust]

so immediately wrong

[patent mango]

maybe power gs can add some more brain thinky to zealot with heat management

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

Rock

[late sphinx]

No one runs rock if ain't meme

[fiery stratus]

incorrect

[patent mango]

no rock is

genuinely peak

[fiery stratus]

tons of people use iot

[nocturne dust]

Secondly, there's a very clear and optimal Zealot build

[fiery stratus]

its extremely good, staggers monsters

[patent mango]

i dont think rocks staggers monsters?

[nocturne dust]

Deviating is a thing, sure, but it's a deviation and not the norm

[fiery stratus]

yes it does

[patent mango]

it does?

[fiery stratus]

spawn and plague to the head

[nocturne dust]

it do

[patent mango]

zamn

[fiery stratus]

if you hit body probably wont do shit

[nocturne dust]

weakspot hit

[patent mango]

ah i forgor bon is stronger to stagger

[late sphinx]

Ive never seen any of you in ogryn chat as much as me. Opinion invalid I know the often culture better and no one takes rock seriously for good reason

[patent mango]

no uh

rock is good

[nocturne dust]

I've never seen you in psyker chat

Get out

[patent mango]

it just kinda is lol

[nocturne dust]

[fiery stratus]

alright dog, i havent played ogryn much recently but i used to be a main. I have like 400 hours on ogryn so check yourself.

[late sphinx]

[patent mango]

yeah slam is worse than soften them up

but rock just kinda good lol

and i dont need soften them up with pickaxe

[nocturne dust]

Wait hold on

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-leave-leaving-pepe-peepo-frog-gif-21562981

[late sphinx]

I dunno what to tell you. Ogg nuke is what all the high level ogryn are wearing these days

[fiery stratus]

also, how much you wanna bet if you asked in ogryn chat if its good, you'd get a lot of people saying yes

[late sphinx]

Good yes. Over nuke? Lol no

[fiery stratus]

you get 1 nuke

[patent mango]

nuke is just kinda there

idk

its good but on melee i can just rock

[fiery stratus]

1 nuke to blow up a crowd of shit that a shovel can 1 shot

[patent mango]

on my rumbler build i run nuke tho

[late sapphire]

Nuke has better pathing so it's chosen over rock

[late sphinx]

You can talk to anyone in ogryn chat if they'd take nuke or rock but ask them in a serious context not in a way of a Joke cause rock funny theyll say nuke I'm confident

[late sapphire]

And with better pathing i mean literally just soften em up

[patent mango]

i really do not need soften them up with pickaxe though

[late sphinx]

Anything rock is doing btw usually is better achieved with literally anything oggy is running on his secondary

[thick mauve]

so whats better two handed force blade or two handed power blade?

[patent mango]

wym its not out yet

[late sapphire]

Not comparable

Different classes

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but you try pathing to inferno grenade or... even worse... stun grenade shudders

[keen wasp]

If I'm trying to power through PowerUp penance, do you think In Fire Reborn or Psychic Vampire would speed things up more? 🤔

[thick mauve]

in terms of style?

[patent mango]

style? force gs

[late sphinx]

I see a wide use or stuns and knives both and even immos in my games but shrug penances are a thing I guess

[patent mango]

stuns is just kinda fricked over by pathing

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I see people using all blitzes on every class

Doesn't mean BB is good

[patent mango]

so is immolation tbh...

[nocturne dust]

Enemies pathing around the pool of fire 😭

[patent mango]

y'know

maybe i should just getboth an adhesive and blast radius rumbler

[nocturne dust]

or, heaven-forbid, smokes 🤮

[thick mauve]

I need to learn more about how to psyker

[patent jacinth]

Smokes are great you shush

[late sapphire]

right click then left click on the enemy

[late sphinx]

The people that love smokes are loyal I don't dear bad mouth it anymore

[nocturne dust]

I will bubble you

[patent jacinth]

I can bubble 3 times

(My bubble fucks with specials)

[nocturne dust]

And then you have to wait 60 seconds just for 1 more

My bubble too messes with specials

[patent jacinth]

Either way, smokes aren’t bad, just weirdly built

Good pathing too

[nocturne dust]

I mean, shredders or kraks? Those are good. Smokes exist.

[mental grail]

Wait which one is the force gs?

[junior glacier]

Luv me shredders

Luv me shovels

[patent jacinth]

Neither

[mental grail]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-screaming-bird-ohio-ohio-meme-stan-twitter-gif-8544295570301920260

[brazen rampart]

Those are the zealout power greatswords.

[junior glacier]

I thought vet was getting those

[brazen rampart]

No.

[wind spruce]

Did they confirm a new force weapon

[brazen rampart]

Vet isn't getting anything.

[patent mango]

uh yea

[patent mango]

force greatsword (unironically)

[patent jacinth]

(Yippee!)

[wind spruce]

Siiiiick

[brazen rampart]

Zealouts are getting 2h power swords, psykers are getting 2h force swords, ogryns are getting a precision stubber.

[junior glacier]

;-;

[patent mango]

iam not joking like actually somehow

i barely believe it

[patent jacinth]

Except maybe a 1 hand PS rebalance

[brazen rampart]

^

The zealout psword is getting a heat mechanic.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-mr-krabs-suffer-gif-23519953

[brazen rampart]

It is likely that the vet psword will also get this mechanic.

[junior glacier]

Whatever ig i still got shovels

[brazen rampart]

I don't understand why it wouldn't.

[late sapphire]

No more psword spam yippie

[mental grail]

Do we have screens for the force gs?

[wind spruce]

Vets should have the power sword taken anyway

[thick mauve]

I think the force GS is getting bigger AOE's when charged

[wind spruce]

Make it zealot exclusive

[junior glacier]

Next update they will add a bigger dueling sword

[wind spruce]

Fuck 'em

[mental grail]

Give it to me

[junior glacier]

Why should zealot only have power swords

[brazen rampart]

Somewhere.

[patent mango]

might be a projectile

[brazen rampart]

I don't have them, but somebody posted them in zealout chat claiming they were the power greatswords.

[patent mango]

we dont really know yet tbh

[spice veldt]

no, give it to me

[patent mango]

people confuse them so much lmao

[wind spruce]

I said only they should have it, very different

[brazen rampart]

I knew they weren't because power swords and force swords have two different power pack shapes.

[spice veldt]

those are the power swords yeah

you can tell that the other image has the force sword since one is basically just a 2h version of the obscurus

[mental grail]

Found

[brazen rampart]

Yup those are the force greatswords.

[thick mauve]

if its like the moonlight greatsword from bloodborne, I will love it

[wind spruce]

And because playing vet is immoral

[patent mango]

i hope it is yea

it might be a projectile could be cool

[mental grail]

No f you, give them back to me

[brazen rampart]

I pray one of the four greatswords is a copy paste of bret longsword and one is a copy paste of kerillian's greatsword.

Copy pasting weapons from vt2 isn't a terrible idea.

[mental grail]

^

[thick mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodborne-ludwig-my-true-mentor-my-guiding-moonlight-moonlight-gif-20321022

[stone plover]

Whats the dump stat on the MK IV blaze force sword?

[nocturne dust]

warp res

[radiant frigate]

what melee am i supposed to use then

[nocturne dust]

Shovel

https://tenor.com/view/notpunkanymore-shovel-gif-22129031

[fiery stratus]

More people agreed with me i win

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/scary-movie-shot-gun-shovel-gif-19925302

[fiery stratus]

Shovel good

Use mk7 shovel

same moveset as standard issue but can 1shot crushers with pick side

slower than SI granted

[patent mango]

bare handed

[prime elk]

Considerably weaker against hordes though

[fiery stratus]

eh

takes a little extra time, but the trash is never the problem

[prime elk]

Well trash isn’t but shit like bruisers will absolutely fuck you up

If you get too lax about it

I think mk7 has been kinda power creeped by DS being available to vet

[fiery stratus]

Eh

[prime elk]

(Horrible mistake)

[fiery stratus]

Oh yeah absolutely

Even the flak armored trash isnt that big of an issue, just try to aim for heads and be consistent

If you know to clear properly its not really an issue

[nocturne dust]

I mean the shovels handle hordes significantly better than DS

[fiery stratus]

Just takes a wee bit longer

[mossy hill]

Hi everyone can someone link a build i just hit 30 and I am still clueless as I am new to the game. Thanks

[prime elk]

Neither weapon has particularly great anti horde

[prime elk]

What weapons are you running? People can provide builds based on that

[fiery stratus]

They also posted in the ogryn chat

@mossy hill Which character are you playing specifically?

[mossy hill]

@fiery stratus Psker

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/

Here's a beginner's guide to the Inferno staff that should be fairly easy to play.

[torn palm]

What does 'Weapon Wield Speed' do with Perilous Assault?

[patent jacinth]

Weapon swap speed

[torn palm]

Thats what i figured...lame

Thanks for the help

[patent mango]

maybe perilous assault was just meant to be point tax

[jovial juniper]

Yes
Lame

[nocturne dust]

Imagine if it was 500%

still useless, but then it'd be funny

[potent echo]

Nah force greatsword gonna take 3 seconds to wield

[nocturne dust]

plz no, meleeker can't handle that point dump

[potent echo]

Dev notes did mention agile weapon so probably not

[nocturne dust]

Yeah but it's phrased as a 'unique feature' somehow so it's

[potent echo]

They cooked it for 2 years

[nocturne dust]

I wonder what their average weapon dev time is

[radiant frigate]

np we will simply never swap off of it

[pulsar hazel]

Also I'm pretty sure there isn't a single melee weapon in the game with an equip delay longer than a fraction of a second

Some are actually instant and can be QQ cancelled for some silly things

Like Ogryns Mk4 knife spam or Obscurus light spam

[prime elk]

errrm. helbore???

[pulsar hazel]

Melee weapon

Unless you're making a joke although the brutal momentum helbore bug has been long fixed sadly

[prime elk]

just memeing about helbores generally lol

but yeah their melee potential has diminished greatly

[pulsar hazel]

They did get a melee buff a bit after the BM bug nerf

and the equip speed talent is very good on them

Too bad I hate using them so idc

[wind spruce]

Is it though? The same format is used when they mention the push attack for zealot

It's a notable feature

[nocturne dust]

you mean the sprint stab?

[pulsar hazel]

I'm guessing they're gonna be propelled by psyker powers to cut through the air quickly

So even though they're huge they'll attack fast

[wind spruce]

Sorry the "special attack"

[nocturne dust]

Cuz the sprint stab is a unique feature

[wind spruce]

I read it as push attack for some reason

Idk I think it will be pretty weildy

[nocturne dust]

we'll see, I don't have any expectations

[wind spruce]

My love, my light ❤️

[nocturne dust]

🤮

[radiant frigate]

sickening

[patent jacinth]

Tossing bricks at you (your sword)

[torn palm]

Is Obscurus or Deimos better?

[radiant frigate]

deimos

[analog agate]

I actually really like the heavy sword. As long as your other weapon can deal with carapace, hs is dope

[wind spruce]

@nocturne dust If you want to be more disgusted here's the build

[fair spruce]

thought I'd share

[stone totem]

Staves can't crit, right

[prime elk]

no, they can

it's pretty important too

[stone totem]

Oh right on purg

Purg especially

True aim still isn't that great for it though I assume

[wind spruce]

Every staff can crit

But true aim is only good for void

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sad-why-why-are-we-still-here-just-to-suffer-gif-17485467

[patent jacinth]

What ranged even is that for

Because oh goodness is that some questionable shit

On top of no Deathblow HS

[forest ibex]

anyone wanna help me with 100%ing the twins penances?

[wind spruce]

It's a based af build imo

No crutch KD

No cringe assail

[nocturne dust]

That is the opposite of based

[wind spruce]

No true aim cos I can't aim

[nocturne dust]

No KD cringelord 🤮

[wind spruce]

Main reason for me not running KD is to improve my melee game tbf

[nocturne dust]

Fair, but I feel like KD is just a natural part of Psyker melee 🤷‍♂️

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[wind spruce]

The issue for me is that I want it to be there, but I don't want to expect it to be there because then I hit 100% peril and die from a single rager breaking my block

So I practice without

[atomic swan]

i see

[nocturne dust]

I can see the logic

[haughty star]

i mean you can always run a +3

[wind spruce]

Your block still gets broken pretty quickly when you're just using stam, especially when the failstate is usually multiple ragers

[prime elk]

KD?

[verbal thistle]

kinetic deflection

[prime elk]

Yes

[strong gulch]

Multiple +3 stams + KD + Deflector to get this silliness. #zealot-class message

It's funny.

[lucid terrace]

☹️

[unkempt knoll]

how bad is brain rupture

[atomic swan]

when you dont build around it
i mean it has its niche, you need a suitable build

[fiery stratus]

hmmmmm

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/yeet-lion-king-simba-rafiki-throw-gif-16194362

[fiery stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/spy-kids-falling-gif-26983464

[left briar]

you gals like rupturing brains?

[unkempt knoll]

i like seeing them pop

but blue rocks are useful

[left briar]

worst stat on the flame staff?

[echo root]

Warp Resist

[left briar]

that the worst stat on all staves?

[echo root]

Blast Radius on Voidstrike

[atomic swan]

it happens

[echo root]

Charge Time on Electrokinetic for M1 builds

[fiery stratus]

Absolutely obliterated

[strong gulch]

BB is nice for a really squirrely special or when a sniper is basically cheating so you cheat back. A fully invested in EP BB build can do decent boss damage, and do it safely from range.

BUT BB is very slow without everything buffing it. It struggles in a competent team. Because of that, it's generally not good. It does cover gaps in some builds like purg and trauma. KF (BB mod) was buffed, and a lot of people are taking BB for KF right now.

[fiery stratus]

I played one where a guy was clutching, got grabbed by chaos spawn, and thrown through the ceiling.

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1298432898004811786/Rest_in_Peas.gif

[fiery stratus]

Failed two mostly melees in a row. Had a zealot who came back and needed to go back to damnation. Then the second game someone was smiting the entire time.

also I got killed by silent poxburster while trying to clutch, after killing everything else.

had chaos spawn, kiting, then random burster with no audio until the jump

perfectly functional

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-roger-nigel-ng-comedian-sad-upset-gif-26884931

[prime river]

does anyone know if i can get the malleus monstronum penance without needing someone for a private group?

[verbal thistle]

you need private

[wind spruce]

Yeah, lots of people know

[fiery stratus]

@prime river if it says it has to be done in a private game, it does. Need at least one other person to start it.

[nocturne dust]

🎵 Tale as old as time 🎵

[barren pine]

is warp splitting nessecary on voidstrike staff and also does it effect assail

[patent jacinth]

Yes it affects assail

And while not necessary it’s really good

100% cleave for free for 10 seconds while also having massively boosted damage is a trip

[barren pine]

hell yeah

[patent jacinth]

(This is assuming you take Scriers Gaze)

[barren pine]

im taking shriek

[patent jacinth]

Alright no free bowling or damage

[left briar]

who has us at a disadvantage?

[barren pine]

is warp spliting now work with shriek?

not*

worth*

[patent jacinth]

Shriek is unaffected as an AoE volume

But typically VS routes right side as it has all the crit/weakspot related perks

Scriers, DD, prescience

[wind spruce]

Best void build

[barren pine]

hell yeah i was running this pretty much exaclty

[wind spruce]

It arguably should have prescience over seer's

[barren pine]

im not convinced on souldrinker exacftly on this build yet

[patent jacinth]

Then drop it

It’s your build

Grab solidity or something

[wind spruce]

If you're the only psyker you could argue its reasonable to drop it, but if there's atleast one other psyker with even just perilous combustion its absolutely worth it

[barren pine]

oh didnt think of that

[wind spruce]

Yeah it works off any soulblaze, no matter the distance

Pretty sick

[echo root]

Just like In Fire Reborn

[barren pine]

makes a shriek on a horde pretty nice toughness regen too i suppose

[wind spruce]

Except that in fire reborn doesn't require the killing blow to be soulblaze iirc

[wind spruce]

Yep amazing toughness regen

[nocturne dust]

Don't lie

It's not the best unless it's my build.

[barren pine]

lets see it

whip it out

[nocturne dust]

Which one?

😏

[barren pine]

voidstrike shriek

[nocturne dust]

Oh well shriek voidstrike is pretty boring, I was talking about voidstrike builds in general, the shriekstrike I have doesn't have any significant difference

Scrier's Strike is much more fun and earns comparable damage numbers once you get the timing on balls for 1-shots correct

at least imo

[barren pine]

lets see that build

[nocturne dust]

Do you want the unhinged version or the vanilla?

[barren pine]

lol both

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ara-anime-eyebrow-up-gif-15721758

[patent jacinth]

Also the emergency 10 seconds of unhindered bowling

[nocturne dust]

Unhinged

[barren pine]

is that a mod that tracks scriers 10 secons

[nocturne dust]

There is a mod, yes

[barren pine]

and vanilla?

[nocturne dust]

One sec, I don't even have vanilla saved

[barren pine]

wahts the mod called i need it

[patent jacinth]

I just use a priority bar that grabs keystone, certain combat abilities, and weapon blessings

And sticks them just above the peril gauge

[nocturne dust]

This one has two free points to put where you like (I put them in the assail nodes)

You can also switch from Anticipation to EE

but I find Anticipation significantly more helpful to stall while charging Voidstrike

[barren pine]

im new to psyker but its good to see my ideas are close to those of more experienced psykers

[nocturne dust]

I mean Voidstrike is probably the most versatile-ly built staff

[barren pine]

ive had the best success with inferno

[nocturne dust]

Trauma and EK both really want a specific build to perform well (which is left side), and Inferno just... performs.

Inferno just works

https://tenor.com/view/todd-howard-it-just-works-bethesda-this-all-just-works-gif-20598651

[patent jacinth]

It’s because the damage is a DoT

Which has some pretty sick adm’s if I remember

(I know you know this void)

[nocturne dust]

Of the staves, I would put EK as the strongest (but also the most finicky and constrained build for its position as strongest), Inferno second, Trauma 3rd (but also safest once you know how to use it), and Voidstrike 4th.

But all of them are powerful.

And Voidstrike is my favorite

[patent jacinth]

VS is most fun for me

Inferno is a brain off stick

[nocturne dust]

Yeth

[patent jacinth]

EK is icky right now

And I kinda hate trauma

[tacit stump]

i hope we get a beam staff or a fireball one

[patent jacinth]

We already have fireball

[nocturne dust]

I like all the staves

[wind spruce]

How dare you

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark gib more

[tacit stump]

thats not a fireball

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark gib shrapnel and blackhole staff

[tacit stump]

lobbing porjectile with explosion which sets enemies on fire

[patent jacinth]

Fireball shot a piercing projectile that eventually exploded

Sound familiar?

[nocturne dust]

soooooo fire trauma

[tacit stump]

trauma is conflagaration

[patent jacinth]

I just want Beam back

[tacit stump]

i know sienna staffs played bm for a long time

[nocturne dust]

And?

[tacit stump]

no fireball

[nocturne dust]

It can subsume multiple Sienna staves into its unholy frame

[nocturne dust]

Eh

I don't know about beam.

[patent jacinth]

Beam would be neat if it was reworked as a charge up death beam

[tacit stump]

livestealer staff would be funny from necromancer update

[nocturne dust]

A big boss damage staff would be nice but

[patent jacinth]

Live Brain Burst reaction

[nocturne dust]

Beam wasn't my thing.

[tacit stump]

you used it on burn build for special sniping

[nocturne dust]

Gib Kerillian floaty staff

[nocturne dust]

I'm aware. I knew how to use it.

[patent jacinth]

I liked the shotgun attack on beam

Real fun to just

Unleash

And watch stuff fold

[tacit stump]

hope we get something similar to fire sword which does with every heavy attack soulblaze

[patent jacinth]

We have that (discount)

[nocturne dust]

(major discount)

[tacit stump]

?

[patent jacinth]

Just run bloodthirsty blazing spirit illisi and cry

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sweaty-speedrunner-epic-gamer-sweat-sweaty-dissapointed-gif-19889918

[patent jacinth]

Or FGS when it comes out

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmmmmm I bet it will be Flame Illisi 2.0

[patent jacinth]

I mostly mean the special

It sounds like either big fucking swing or straight up Moonlight Greatsword

[nocturne dust]

I swear to the heavens above if the special is another stupid charge special I'm going to... be unhappy

[patent jacinth]

Sounded like it is tiered

So fancy thrust charge

[nocturne dust]

I mean it depends

[wind spruce]

Like thrust the blessing?

[nocturne dust]

If it's like its own attack that you just hold

[unkempt knoll]

im bout too do sum funky stuff

[nocturne dust]

That would be fine

[patent jacinth]

Yes

[patent jacinth]

That’s what it sounds like

[wind spruce]

I think the tiers refers to the scaling with peril bit

[patent jacinth]

To me at least

[nocturne dust]

I just dislike charging and then using a normal attack BuT nOw It iS BlUe (or making noise)

[wind spruce]

Man I can't read today

[lethal lagoon]

"Today"

[wind spruce]

Look look look

You're right

[split lance]

toxic ahhhhhh

[nocturne dust]

Silence, heretic. You hold no power here.

[lethal lagoon]

"You're Right" is redunent

[nocturne dust]

Come back when you play Darktide.

[split lance]

dont talk to my pookie like that

[nocturne dust]

He likes it tho.

[wind spruce]

Yeah but i know you like to hear it

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

him and i were literally doing duo auric maels

[lethal lagoon]

[lethal lagoon]

I play all the time I just exclude you

[nocturne dust]

and were you succeeding?

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

im offended you have to ask

[nocturne dust]

You can't exclude me if I exclude myself.

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1293777782727512064/967ute.gif

I don't record but this is not the only moment.

[tacit stump]

what is best ek build

[lethal lagoon]

Estrogen, it'll help you get that "ek" out just right

[split lance]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1293778694535512115/967v2e.gif

[split lance]

my pov is better

[lethal lagoon]

What wtf is ek?

I thought he meant EP

[nocturne dust]

Electrokinetic

[lethal lagoon]

I will end this world

[nocturne dust]

Times change, old man

[lethal lagoon]

We've crossed over the point of no return

[split lance]

tell him to navigate bo6 menus

he will lose it

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

No, because I don't want to encourge buying COD.

[split lance]

bo6 is fun

[nocturne dust]

[lethal lagoon]

Who's dumb enough to buy Bo6, just use gamepass?

[split lance]

im a quickscope god

[tacit stump]

similar to my normal burn build huh

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[split lance]

bros speaking from experience

[nocturne dust]

Every staff builds the saaaammmmmeeee (except Voidstrike)

[nocturne dust]

🤮

[lethal lagoon]

He's unrionically good.

It's most unfortunate.

[nocturne dust]

You know, I was thinking of replying with an old COD reference but it, like COD, ain't worth my time anymore

[lethal lagoon]

Too old?

[split lance]

on god

something

an old

mfer

would sat

say

[nocturne dust]

Dats cool, I ain't old in body yet

[split lance]

i am

[split lance]

everything hurts

all the time

[nocturne dust]

Psykers when low on hp:

[nocturne dust]

Neat. Now lets see Havoc gameplay.

[split lance]

Is it out yet?

[nocturne dust]

No.

[split lance]

Dw

I’ll do something funny and clippable

[steel solstice]

is it viable without smite?

horde clear must be questionable

[nocturne dust]

Always has been

[echo root]

Nothing like oneshotting mobs with Blazing Spirit + Wildfire and it doesn't even spread

[nocturne dust]

Nope, PC + shriek (and melee) is your horde clear

You delete elites, they ignite everyone around them

and then you shriek too

[echo root]

Blazing Spirit on force sword must be the biggest letdown I have ever witnessed

[nocturne dust]

Everything dies

It's the strongest build on Staffker rn

[echo root]

Fuck smite

[steel solstice]

I kinda like blazing trauma

[nocturne dust]

Well, barring maybe some cheesey builds I have no interest in examining

[steel solstice]

the CC is so good

[nocturne dust]

like lmb macro

[nocturne dust]

It is indeed good

[echo root]

Try this

[nocturne dust]

No no

[echo root]

Yes Yes

[nocturne dust]

Try this

[steel solstice]

I run exatly this build

[nocturne dust]

You may notice

It is exactly the same as the EK build

That is on purpose

[echo root]

KD waste of space

[nocturne dust]

Lies and deception

[echo root]

No In Fire Reborn

?`?????

Blazing trauma

No in fire reborn

Please explain yourself

[steel solstice]

I run dueling sword so KD is a waste of space

[echo root]

YES

[nocturne dust]

I've examined the warp charge rate and In Fire Reborn on Blazimg Trauma is less consistent but slightly more common than the other option.

I prefer consistency.

[nocturne dust]

The boss about to smack through your face:

https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-evil-smile-creepy-smile-gif-7618321

[echo root]

Dodge slide while blocking

[steel solstice]

I know the dance. I don't need to 'block'.

[echo root]

Literally never had a proper use of KD except for blocking in a corner -> get 84% peril -> Vent

[nocturne dust]

Your block almost immediately breaks because you're using dueling sword

[steel solstice]

use 1 stam curio

[echo root]

I don't waste 3x of my curio slots on toughness regen, I have 3x stam regen

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

I don't run in fire reborn with blaze trauma.

[echo root]

The stam is back before the boss can hit again

[nocturne dust]

Now that is really bad

[steel solstice]

this is what I run too

[nocturne dust]

Not a chance

[plucky flax]

Also this blaze trauma build doesn't have 5% free crit chance 😮

[echo root]

If you just stand there and block while picking your nose yes

[steel solstice]

I never run out of toughness unless something oneshots me

[nocturne dust]

Chaos Spawn about to hit them with the bap bap bap:

[echo root]

Can't hit you if you slide backwards

It's a trick the elites don't want you to know

[steel solstice]

you just dodge backwards 3 times

[echo root]

You can take away the toughness on elite / warp charge for 5% crit

[plucky flax]

That's what I do with my build.

But with vampiric instead of fire reborn.

[echo root]

Honestly doesn't make a huge difference

I feel like in fire reborn does more when you need warp charges

[nocturne dust]

I mean, the point is that you're out of dodges or else, yeh, why block?

[plucky flax]

Aye you do you boo.

[echo root]

while the other one lets you accumulate charges when it doesn't matter as much

[plucky flax]

I am just realy good blaze trauma guy even though I fell out of love with the staff.

[steel solstice]

I skipped kinetic flayer

[plucky flax]

You should take it. Really strong now.

[nocturne dust]

Imagine not loving every staff

[echo root]

Kinetic Flayer based

[plucky flax]

Soulblaze amplifier.

[echo root]

I hate bowling ball staff

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-disgust-differences-gif-25225331

[steel solstice]

but its less consistent than 5% flat crit, right?

[plucky flax]

1 mil damage with blaze trauma in melee scab only / hishock. Same build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qn9nsqPCfEw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lyN5CY5Le8

[echo root]

Drop the toughness regen on getting a warp charge instead

[nocturne dust]

and then drop warp battery for KD

[echo root]

KD

[nocturne dust]

KD

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma the only staff I don't run KD on.

Needed the 6 warp charges for more creeping flames spam.

[nocturne dust]

But I don't even get to 6 charges before shrieking again

wat even the point

[plucky flax]

You're not killing enough elites then.

[nocturne dust]

Well yeah

[nocturne dust]

That's part of the issue

Stupid boltor vets and their instagib spam

[steel solstice]

KD is honestly a trap

I've tried to run it

[nocturne dust]

[steel solstice]

never helped me once

[nocturne dust]

git gud

[plucky flax]

It helps a lot when solo clutching.

[nocturne dust]

Switch to melee and block when needed, Q.E.D.

[steel solstice]

I mean I'm alright. This node is there for those who are not good at dodging and have no mobility game to save their asses.

[summer prairie]

uhuh

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

It's tru I am really bad.

[nocturne dust]

It's true, I can attest. You don't even hit 1 million damage when other players aren't braindead. Smh my head.

[plucky flax]

I had to equip KD to true duo 12VEG.

Otherwise it's gg.

[plucky flax]

WTB bad players I can look good.

Paid actors.

[nocturne dust]

Gib me money and I'll switch to my highly-skilled vet gameplay where I don't do anything and explode into a pile of flesh paste

[steel solstice]

you'll at least explode

[plucky flax]

It's tru that if you're pro you won't need KD. But it's super helpful when teammates all die and I have to carry (which is semi-often).

Not always needed but you'll be grateful when the situation arises.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you don't need KD but you don't need a talent tree either

It's an incredibly useful node for a single talent point from my view

[plucky flax]

I take it on 9/10 builds so it's pretty good in my eyes.

[steel solstice]

I have no nodes to skip for KD xd

[nocturne dust]

I would drop a lot to keep KD

Warp Battery is super meh, Kinetic Flayer is just barely above that

Heck I might even get rid of wildfire over losing KD

[steel solstice]

15% cd on ult and -12% peril generation is meh?

[nocturne dust]

Warp Battery is 2 stacks

[steel solstice]

that is some level of love]

[nocturne dust]

and also, it's not -peril gen

unless you take that node

but ER exists and is better

[steel solstice]

each stack is 7.5% cd and 6% peril generation

[nocturne dust]

and more consistent too

[plucky flax]

Or when dh randomly aggro me it's nice to have kd xd

[nocturne dust]

It's not peril gen without a sub node

and you don't even have that sub node

[steel solstice]

but I take that node

[nocturne dust]

let alone me

[steel solstice]

I like it on trauma

[nocturne dust]

You realize it stacks poorly with ER?

[steel solstice]

why? is it not additive?

[nocturne dust]

and even worse, it's inconsistent because you're constantly expending stacks

[nocturne dust]

It is not additive

[steel solstice]

and getting them back extremely quickly

like on the spot xd

[nocturne dust]

Eeehhh only in a thick fight but I don't worry about thick fights, those are easy

The bad fights are the ones where you've got a lot of ranged barrelling down on you and no real way to get rid of them quickly

[steel solstice]

and kd will help me how?

[nocturne dust]

Lets you tank bosses including DH, lets you get in revives, lets you have wicked mobility by using dodges to move rather than using them to avoid attacks

There's quite a number of uses

[steel solstice]

I dodge to move and avoid attacks at the same time

I agree with DH tho

[nocturne dust]

Also lets you generate peril while avoiding damage in a corner

[nocturne dust]

Sure. And then you run out of dodges or you save some. Either way it's less efficient.

It also lets you effectively ignore stamina almost entirely

No wasting your curios on stam regen

[steel solstice]

but I already ignore stamina cuz its regenerating very quickly

3x stam regen works wonders in that

[nocturne dust]

You have curio perks wasted on it

and that's a big waste

[steel solstice]

It makes me move much faster and I dodge everything

how is it wasted?

[nocturne dust]

Well for one, it doesn't actually make you move faster

Dodge-sliding on Psyker is infinitely doable

or not dodge-sliding

[steel solstice]

what is the point of taking toughness regen + KD if I can mostly ignore damage by sliding/dodging?

[nocturne dust]

slide spamming

[nocturne dust]

Because when you do take damage, stamina ain't gonna be the thing saving you

unless you're telling me you never take damage

[steel solstice]

So I'll be safe from stunlocks if I'll take KD, right?

[barren pine]

wut is KD

[nocturne dust]

I'm not saying you need to take toughness regen, but there are a lot of good curio perks and stam regen on Psyker isn't one of them.

[nocturne dust]

Kinetic Deflection

[potent echo]

Yea I run CDR on psyker

[steel solstice]

I take very little usually. Unless I misplay and find myself horribly out of position.

[nocturne dust]

Safer from Rager stuns, yes. You also have more room on your curios for things like gunner res.

[barren pine]

is that a talent

[potent echo]

No stam regene

[nocturne dust]

Yes, bottom right

[steel solstice]

I don't take gunner res. I dodge.
Ragers can't get to me cuz of trauma stuns.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, and I regularly take sub-100 damage on aurics. I still take KD.

[steel solstice]

I run both

[potent echo]

1x Gunner res is good in situations where you wanna trade

[nocturne dust]

Ew

[potent echo]

Or it gives you the ability to trade with them

[nocturne dust]

For one, ragers are silent

[potent echo]

Mainly for voidstaff

[steel solstice]

they are very visible

[nocturne dust]

You can keep your head on a swivel but being mid-rager combo and trying to cast will suck

[echo root]

Yeah, most ragers just alt+f4. Rarely get them to use their mic.

[nocturne dust]

This lad hasn't experienced teleporting enemies yet