psyker-class

[sturdy reef]

I like that tree for fun

I just wish melee psyker had more juice

some more talents

I just feel like a hamstrung zealot

but on even more crack

[zinc phoenix]

Playing psyker as a melee class in maels has made me a lot better with other melee classes lemme tell you 😂

[nocturne dust]

Really? Makes me worse

I always forget I can't just infinitely push and block 😭

[zinc phoenix]

lol

[sturdy reef]

I have been getting better at maneuvering hordes and timing shoves

[zinc phoenix]

I did have that experience on vet when I realized I would run out of stam while blocking a rager and waiting for an opportunity

Changes that experience for sure

[sturdy reef]

there is nothing more satisfying than dicking a rager train with lmb quell cancelling

[woeful cliff]

Does Surge work with Electrokinetic's right click?

[nocturne dust]

no

[woeful cliff]

k

thx

[kindred edge]

Can you imagine if it did, though? It should just be a bolt of lightning from the heavens that burns the target to ash.

[nocturne dust]

Kinetic Flayer:

https://tenor.com/view/gift-gif-funn-stare-weird-gif-20873893

[kindred edge]

Just reskin KF to be lightning and I'll be happy tbh

Love lightning

[delicate dove]

Just read the upcoming update... You telling me psykers are getting Moonlight Greatswords?

[nocturne dust]

We'll see.

[young summit]

Peril Wizard Greatsword Gang, we love swinging swords

[delicate dove]

shoot me sword beams

[vocal tendon]

Imagine Warding Staff is a shield so Greatsword becomes your ranged weapon.

[delicate dove]

Is that a thing?

[vocal tendon]

Its not but it COULD be

Somebody mentioned earlier that we might get one

[delicate dove]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-hercules-disappointment-shouting-kevin-sorbo-gif-14893643

I would love a staff with a new and interesting LMB alongside its RMB. Kinda tired of spamming balls

[minor wedge]

Thaaaats kinda my problem rn

I get overwhelmed real easy in heresy so far.

So i went back down to malice

[vocal tendon]

Purgatus has a fun LMB. Staggers hard. And is super fun in conjunction with a melee wrapon

[nocturne dust]

I think that's a matter of training yourself over using something like a wound curio, but you do what makes you feel good and comfortable.

Best way to learn is to hit your face against the brick wall until the brick wall breaks

[delicate dove]

I was never a huge fan, but I do really like it has it's own LMB

[tacit stump]

would been nice purgatus with normal lmb instead

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, actually my biggest issue with purg is it has a bad lmb

shoulda just stuck with the normal one

[vocal tendon]

It’s an instant stagger button and hits a bunch of dudes. Though yeah it has piss poor damage

[tacit stump]

i mean the normal one could deal with range specials

[nocturne dust]

The instant stagger button that can only be used to stagger ragers, which you can just dodge dance around anyway

especially with Blaze Away which will stagger ragers once stacked

so like

[delicate dove]

And no long ranged option, forcing you to use assail

[nocturne dust]

almost completely useless

[tacit stump]

or bb

i use bb only cause of creeping flames

[vocal tendon]

It also lets you proc souldrinker

[nocturne dust]

You mean wildfire/psykinetics?

cuz that's why I use BB

[nocturne dust]

🤮

[tacit stump]

yes

[nocturne dust]

Oh good, the 3-point tax node got mentioned

[delicate dove]

Yeah, I could never justify the cost of the left and right sides

[vocal tendon]

I mean if you are going down the 3 point tax node anyways for melee stuff it makes it a better supplementary staff.

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker wouldn't be good even if it was directly adjacent to the typical purgatus build, let alone it being on the wrong side

[delicate dove]

especially if the side you want is opposite to the branch you're going

[nocturne dust]

Melee stuff on the staff that replaces melee?

[tacit stump]

i like lightning speed

[nocturne dust]

It's also only 10% attack speed

which is nice

but like

not that nice

[tacit stump]

should been 15- 20%

[delicate dove]

too much lol

better

[nocturne dust]

Nah, 20%

meleeker needs the help

[delicate dove]

I dunno

[nocturne dust]

Anything meleeker can do, Vet/Zealot can do better

by a lot

[tacit stump]

do you know what perilous assault exactly does

hope the new gs are better deimos and illisi

[nocturne dust]

Perilous Assault improves swap speed

but it is almost entirely useless

It would be even if it was always maxed buff and didn't scale with peril

We don't have long swap speed weapons like Flamer or Bolter

[delicate dove]

Weapon swaps are already so fast, I don't know what they were thinking

[tacit stump]

hellbore rifle...

[nocturne dust]

We don't have helbore

That's a vet gun

[tacit stump]

i know but it feels hellw crap cause of thid

[nocturne dust]

Maybe it will be useful with force greatsword

but if force greatsword has a long swap time... 🤮

[tacit stump]

empyric shock is it even usefull

[nocturne dust]

LMB spam loves empyric shock

[zinc phoenix]

I suspect maybe we will soon

[delicate dove]

I really hope they just scrap that ability and make it something else, it feels like a crunch-time placeholder lol

[nocturne dust]

otherwise no, and Channelling Force is never useful

[delicate dove]

like they ran out of ideas

[nocturne dust]

But long swap time weapons are so dumb 😭

Everybody just animation cancels out of them

[zinc phoenix]

They may decide to go back to an old design intent where weapons were slower to switch and you were intended to use the weapon’s secondary

Action thing

[nocturne dust]

[delicate dove]

or just buff the secondaries.. (the poop ones)

[nocturne dust]

Lawd, plz no

That sounds horrendous

[tacit stump]

thunder hammer or heavy evicerator swap time gonna be likely on force gs

[nocturne dust]

That would be fine, that's normal

[tacit stump]

they felt slower then other meele weapons

but were fine

[frail harness]

The only weapon I have a problem with long swap time is the Helbore. It's great, but it's not Bolter great. Doesn't need the long swap IMO

[tacit stump]

and force gs gonna likely be less chunky then evicerator

[tacit stump]

thats why i mention it, that breaks the weapon for me else i love the hellbore rifles

[delicate dove]

I want a smol force weapon. I already feel so slow with the blaze swords, I'm worried about a greatsword

[tacit stump]

isn't deimos similar to duel sword in speed beside bit slower heavys

and illisi is quick or not

[delicate dove]

I mean movement speed

They're all the same

[tacit stump]

huh

[zinc phoenix]

DS is faster tho

[delicate dove]

Deimos has higher movement speed?

[zinc phoenix]

I’m pretty sure dueling sword has faster move speed

I don’t actually remember tho

[delicate dove]

It does

[zinc phoenix]

Ok so yes, ds is faster

[delicate dove]

But I want a force weapon with that kind of movement

[zinc phoenix]

Meh

[delicate dove]

Scrap the obscuris and make it a short sword or something

[tacit stump]

force swords have normal

[zinc phoenix]

Oscurus is our first force sword, used to be only. Can’t scrap that

[nocturne dust]

Force knife

[delicate dove]

lmao. yes.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/kid-knife-running-with-knives-gif-13862209

[frail harness]

They're really close to excellent, but sometimes I have to push a burster or dog, and then the swap back is painful

[tacit stump]

hope we get a special with more range when thrusted forward by those

[delicate dove]

I would like the option to use a force weapon that synergizes with psyker and also be fast

Telekinetic knife throw and return for special?

[nocturne dust]

I mean I've been saying that Meleeker just needs to be faster or have more durability

[tacit stump]

void enhanced thrust where the energy pierces enemies

psyker have low max stamina and are squishy

[nocturne dust]

Which is why they should be speedy

because then they can move at...

[zinc phoenix]

Faster is preferable

[nocturne dust]

😎

Warp Speed

[zinc phoenix]

Also we can’t be high in TDR without doing something about our immense active toughness regen

[nocturne dust]

I mean ER hits that pretty hard.

[zinc phoenix]

Not everyone is playing left side

[tacit stump]

scrier and disrupt destiny are the only things that ibcrease psyker movement speed

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but I'm just saying. You could made the TDR require passing through ER.

[zinc phoenix]

Think there’s also a move speed node

[delicate dove]

and mettle. On any crits

[nocturne dust]

The issue with all the movement speed buffs is that they are too inconsistent and all over the place

Majority of the time they aren't working

[tacit stump]

thats why gunkers feel for me so speedy

[zinc phoenix]

They’re almost all on the right side of the tree

[delicate dove]

Blood thirsty on illisi for guaranteed crits?

[tacit stump]

they are all on the right side

[zinc phoenix]

They’re not active out of combat but in a fight you start charging your speed up and start moving very fast

It’s a nice vibe and it also means psyker can’t trivially outrun all mobs when not fighting

Which would make for very easy speed clears 😂

[tacit stump]

thats why gunker feels for me rushy and i am like i need to keep the chain going

[nocturne dust]

They should be able to.

[zinc phoenix]

When the speed is engaged tho holy f do you just go

Feels a lot like someone read Dune and decided to have that

[nocturne dust]

The issue is DD has a super-short movement speed boost and Scrier's movement speed is a whole talent point for a bit of speed half the time.

[zinc phoenix]

And mettle’s stacking to 25%

[nocturne dust]

15%

[zinc phoenix]

Pretty sure it’s 5 5 times

[nocturne dust]

It's 3 stacks of 5

[delicate dove]

yesh

[zinc phoenix]

333333333

[tacit stump]

3

[nocturne dust]

:3

[zinc phoenix]

Hah there’s also a mandatory 5% move speed node on right tree bottom

[tacit stump]

don't make a d

[nocturne dust]

This is true.

Doesn't fix the issue though.

[thorn cedar]

how much trouble do you guys have maintaining scriers uptime

[zinc phoenix]

Take the boosted duration and it’s fine

[nocturne dust]

The movement speed isn't active during the lingering effect

[zinc phoenix]

You don’t need it up all the time

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

Scrier's, not DD

[thorn cedar]

yes im very aware

[tacit stump]

is empathetic evasion good?

[thorn cedar]

how much trouble do you have maintaing scriers uptime lmao

[nocturne dust]

It's alright.

[zinc phoenix]

Reading is hard today

[nocturne dust]

Not much.

[zinc phoenix]

Scrier is easy to keep up with a gun and hard with a staff

[tacit stump]

on gunker i use normally anticipation

[nocturne dust]

I mean, once the lingering effect is over you rarely have to wait much.

Or are you talking about maxing the duration for the active effect?

Cuz that can be hard

[tacit stump]

lingering effect how long

[nocturne dust]

10 seconds-ish

[wide maple]

Gentlemen, whats the dump stat on the Voidstrike?

[nocturne dust]

It's a bit longer than it says on the tin

[nocturne dust]

Blast radius for voidstrike

Warp resist for all other staves including voidblast

[tacit stump]

why do i use scrier only with guns

[nocturne dust]

Because it doesn't really go that great with staves

[wide maple]

Thanks, that's what I figured

[zinc phoenix]

It goes great with voidstrike

[wide maple]

because staves want to end scrier faster

[nocturne dust]

except Voidstrike, you can make Scrier's work with Voidstrike (but honestly I think Shriek is still more effective)

[zinc phoenix]

Double big balls is very lethal

And SG make double big balls easy

[jovial juniper]

It's usable with EK staff

[nocturne dust]

I also tried out Scrier's with Purgatus. It's... a build.

[wide maple]

double big balls are already easy

[zinc phoenix]

+20% crit makes them easier

[wide maple]

Psyker already stacks obscene amounts of crit

[tacit stump]

i hope they buff bb next patch

[nocturne dust]

They really don't.

[jovial juniper]

And maybe blazing trauma

[zinc phoenix]

more

MORE

[nocturne dust]

It's like 40%-50% iirc on voidstrike without Scrier's. Which, yeah, it pretty high. It could be a lot higher though.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[tacit stump]

did someone test sharged strikes?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Charged Strike sucks

It is very bad

[jovial juniper]

Avoid it at all costs

[nocturne dust]

Basically a wasted talent point in every situation

[wide maple]

One void shot into a trash mob and you have a guaranteed crit

[nocturne dust]

True aim only works once per attack

now at least

[wide maple]

[zinc phoenix]

It was dumb and cheaty before

[wide maple]

I didn't realize they nerfed it

[nocturne dust]

Silence heathen

[wide maple]

I'm gonna go cry some

[nocturne dust]

You're dumb and cheaty

[wide maple]

I am dumb and cheaty

[zinc phoenix]

I refused to use the stupid thing out of principle back then

[wide maple]

oh wow, I'll put you up for promotion then

[nocturne dust]

Oh so it's fine if Vraks gets infinite crits

[zinc phoenix]

Great

[nocturne dust]

but the moment it's on a staff, bad?

[zinc phoenix]

No that’s dumb too 😂

[nocturne dust]

At least you're fair.

[tacit stump]

uhn what exactly

[zinc phoenix]

I like having lots of build options that are reasonable

[wide maple]

Everything is dumb and I've killed 30 beasts of nurgle in the past hour

[pine tundra]

Is blaze away or Penetrating Flame worth running on Inferno staff?

[zinc phoenix]

So sick of the bonpocalypse

30 bon is like one mission with that stupid modifier

[wide maple]

I'm sick of finding new and annoying ways to get shoved out of the map

[zinc phoenix]

Stop being so delicious

[wide maple]

I can't help it!

[zinc phoenix]

Bon wants to take it’s DoorDash inside

[wide maple]

This corpse starch diet has made me into a snacc

I want to go back to the build I had with the regular Psyker diet.

[nocturne dust]

Blaze Away is the literal best blessing on Purgatus in all cases

[wide maple]

Emaciated, because they dont feed witches

[nocturne dust]

Penetrating Flame is 3rd best blessing and falls behind Nexus

but is better at boss damage if you want that 🤷‍♂️

[pine tundra]

Ive been running malestroms handicapped then lmao

[tacit stump]

did they rename purgatus into inferno

[nocturne dust]

yes

[waxen jackal]

Time to stop neglecting my psyker

[tacit stump]

two weeks and we get a new weapon

[wide maple]

Yay, more mastery grinding!

[waxen jackal]

I'm super excited. Both my favorite classes get a new 2 handed sword

[wide maple]

I think we should get 3 handed swords

[nocturne dust]

Yay, more button clicking!

[tacit stump]

same and ogryn maybe a good range weapon

[tacit stump]

feel bad for vet

[wide maple]

Don't

They still have plasma

[tacit stump]

i mean they have no new toys

[wide maple]

Its all a grand ploy to get vet players to play the other 3 classes for once

[waxen jackal]

I need to make a vet eventually

[wide maple]

Vet is boring

[waxen jackal]

It seems really OP when I see others playing it

[wide maple]

I wouldn't say OP, but extremely well rounded

Like you would have to actively try to make a build that falls short in some category

[tacit stump]

psyker is the weirdest class or not

[nocturne dust]

Vet is the strongest class

[waxen jackal]

Do you play combat knife the same way on psyker as zealot?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, you can

[wide maple]

Play everything like zealot

[nocturne dust]

but I wouldn't recommend it

[wide maple]

you will not regret running into that crusher horde

[nocturne dust]

I use knife mostly for its mobility and repositioning for staff

[wide maple]

I use DClaw

Because I like hitting the no u button on ragers

and plague ogryns

and chaos spawn

[nocturne dust]

I use Dclaw too, but it is a pretty bad choice sadly.

[wide maple]

HOW VERY DARE YOU

[tacit stump]

stabs ragers into the head with deimos

they fall to the might of the hookblade

[wide maple]

Yeah, but you aren't making them kill themself, are you?

[waxen jackal]

Something tell me this person likes the dclaw

[wide maple]

YOU WILL HEAR THE GOOD WORD, AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

[torn palm]

what blessings are best with dueling sword?

[tacit stump]

dclaw only together with weapons like psyker staffs, bolter or Plasma

uncanny strike and riposte

atleast for my taste i used it only on psyker until now cause i level other weapons

idk if it was right to unlock it for the righteous murder hobos

[nocturne dust]

uncanny and [preference]

I would recommend thrust on psyker

[wide maple]

Why use duelling sword when dclaw is right there?

[nocturne dust]

Because one is the best melee weapon in the game by a longshot and the other is Dclaw

[torn palm]

Is uncanny necessary if I am using Voidstrike for armoured enemies?

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

I mean, I would use a horde clear melee for Voidstrike, which Dueling Sword is not

[tacit stump]

heavy sword?

[nocturne dust]

No

I hate heavy sword

[wispy bay]

Illisi

[nocturne dust]

[wide maple]

Quit being cringe

[tacit stump]

is heavy sword bad

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[torn palm]

Illisi force sword?

[tacit stump]

i used it for some time on zealot

[wispy bay]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

Illisi is okay. Chainsword is actually better for horde clear on a staff build iirc.

[wispy bay]

You can quell and regen toughness with it while still clearing the horde

[tacit stump]

give heavy sword already uncanny strike...

[wide maple]

Heavy sword has a bad moveset IMO

too much choppy choppy, not enough swipey swipey

[indigo plank]

Doesn’t turl 7 have diagonal heavies?

[wide maple]

diagonal is not swipey swipey

[indigo plank]

(I don’t know the marks I don’t into sword)

[tacit stump]

9 has loop after first vertikal

i used mostly 9

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but Illisi relies heavily on the damage boosts Meleeker (Scrier's, DD) provides. Without those boosts, it's a pretty mediocre weapon.

[tacit stump]

buff obscurus,illisi?

[indigo plank]

Illisi with Exorcist/Slaughterer on Gazer is pretty fun

[tacit stump]

deimos is fine

[indigo plank]

I’ve seen folks make obscurus work. It’s just got a weird moveset

I’ve seen a lot of people rocking the illisi but I can’t blame them

M1 mash is decent and heavy spam is just straight horizontals

[haughty star]

Maybe if you never charged the illisi?

[indigo plank]

Deimos you at least gotta burn 2 whole calories to get to the goatstab, so naturally most people won’t use it

[haughty star]

idk thing has like infinite cleave charged and ample power to kill maniacs and the likes

[nocturne dust]

Don't start, I've tested. The charge takes time.

[haughty star]

dOn'T sTaRt

[indigo plank]

Chainsword IIRC is a crit machine, I can see it outperforming the illisi

[haughty star]

dude you're such a shitter its amazing lol

[indigo plank]

It used to be gross on crit zealot back when we still had OG talents

And has stayed pretty decent, at least outperforming the Evi consistently

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/rolling-eyes-gif-22773102

[haughty star]

yeah but this ain't zelly. evis is shit cuz of the four enemy cap

[nocturne dust]

💀

[indigo plank]

https://tenor.com/view/puss-in-boots-math-i-never-counted-the-last-wish-gif-27436638

Vroomvroom

Giblets

[haughty star]

yeah it can literally only damage 4 enemies at a time. it feels good and works okay but deffo better picks for zelly

[nocturne dust]

It's 6 on charged swipes iirc, and killing 6 at a time is Rashad business

[haughty star]

it's like a charged lead in so not really worth doing lol

[tacit stump]

i think they should shange illisi sharge to a toggle

[indigo plank]

It’s fun so I use it

[nocturne dust]

yes plz

[tacit stump]

each attack increase your peril though

[nocturne dust]

(It's also really good, Baz is just a hater)

[haughty star]

we're talking evis dipshit

[indigo plank]

No we’re talking about chaxe

[tacit stump]

i dislike the ripper they should shange it so it damage in manby ticks and not one burst at the end

[indigo plank]

Keep up dummy

[nocturne dust]

No we're talking about devil's claw

[haughty star]

wait what the hellllllllllllllllll

devils claw is a shitty gimmick

[nocturne dust]

What weapon do you even like

that's melee

[tacit stump]

who

[indigo plank]

Staff

[nocturne dust]

Baz

[tacit stump]

oh

[haughty star]

pretty much illisi for horde cleaving and ds4 for everything else like any self respecting psyker that isn't bored of those

[tacit stump]

i am unsatiesfied with chain weapons in this game beside evicerator

[haughty star]

i want to like deimos but it's so dog ass slow

[indigo plank]

Chain flail when

It exists

[haughty star]

chain weapons feel bad and clunky

[nocturne dust]

🤮

[tacit stump]

i love the deimos sword

[haughty star]

this from a guy that literally goons about the devils claw parry

[tacit stump]

i preffered it over ds 4

[nocturne dust]

Because it's cool

and not boring OP

[tacit stump]

it is only good against monsters and ragers

but silly by dh

[haughty star]

monsters is a stretch

[nocturne dust]

It's not really good against anything, but I like it

[tacit stump]

i mean for tanking

[haughty star]

yeah there's that

[tacit stump]

monster damage dodo though

[haughty star]

deimos is just shitty chain weapon feeling force sword. i really hope they don't fuck up the force 2h but i don't see that happening

it'll likely be a copy paste of the chain equivalent like the deimos

[tacit stump]

force gs have shargeable sweep

[haughty star]

shitty force evis here we come

actually if it acted similar to evis that wouldn't be awful for psyker because the knockdown would be helpful

[tacit stump]

thats their force attack

[nocturne dust]

L take

[haughty star]

sick burn

[nocturne dust]

I don't see how Deimos is remotely similar to a chain weapon when you never want to use the charge

and it knocks down crushers

and has stabs

[prime elk]

yeah that's a weird comparison

if anything the problem with deimos is that you shouldn't ever use the "rev" on it

[haughty star]

hence the shitty part dumbass

[tacit stump]

i dislike the force stab though should be shanged like the ripper continous damage with manny ticks

[haughty star]

the charge is a shitty version of a chain charge

[prime elk]

whereas you do use the rev all the time with chain weapons

[nocturne dust]

So you're calling your own comparison shitty?

[haughty star]

3head moment

literally just look for stuff to argue about my guy

[nocturne dust]

which is why you don't use it 🤷‍♂️

[haughty star]

yeah and thats not shitty how?

[nocturne dust]

Because the h2 is good

[tacit stump]

just stab the crushers

[nocturne dust]

wtf u mean

[waxen jackal]

I haven't played psyker in so long. I did awful

[haughty star]

i could swear there's something else that's good at that

oh yeah

the ds4

[nocturne dust]

DS has bad lights, you telling me it's a shitty Devil's Claw or something?

[haughty star]

and it's faster

"L take"

[nocturne dust]

Oh no, the Deimos isn't the most OP thing on the list, oh noooooooooooooooo

https://tenor.com/view/john-bender-funny-sarcasm-im-crushed-stress-gif-13614739

[haughty star]

yeah it's just a shitty slower option than the ds4

[analog agate]

When they inevitably nerf ds because of the other classes…. The deimos will be waiting there with arms wide open

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, "if it isn't max meta it's trash" is a take

[haughty star]

says the guy who mains surge and literally beats his dick about it being meta ALL THE TIME

[nocturne dust]

Also Deimos has better horde clear

[haughty star]

lmao

big statement there, bucko

[nocturne dust]

Bro

You don't even know what I main

[analog agate]

Isn’t it in your name?

[nocturne dust]

I just acknowledge what the meta is.

[tacit stump]

thats what i noticed and preffered the deimos cause of it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-gif-11399444358411290094

Maaaaaaayyybbbeeeeeeeee

[haughty star]

nah that's some shitty edgy discord name

[analog agate]

I just feel like you have really defended voidstrike against me before, haha

[haughty star]

void strike is good and fun and way better than surge in certain scenarios

[nocturne dust]

Sure

[haughty star]

those scenarios being any long open stretch with hordes

[nocturne dust]

Maybe?

[wispy bay]

Void strike has very good straight line AOE

[analog agate]

Idk

[haughty star]

{literally almost everywhere}

[analog agate]

I am a voidstrike hater

[nocturne dust]

Cringe

The damage numbers don't lie

[haughty star]

bro could you dial down the zoomerisms just a tiche?

[nocturne dust]

Also

I just want to point out

I literally told you to use voidstrike when you were an EK fan

and you call me an EK main?

What is this bullcrap

[haughty star]

you could just scream "i'm 20 and think my opinion is the only one that matters" rather than using all this shitty zoomerspeak

[nocturne dust]

Cringe

L take

https://tenor.com/view/dont-care-didnt-ask-cope-_ratio-skill-issue-canceled-gif-24148064

[haughty star]

next you're gonna be telling us no flique and on cap

[tacit stump]

what do you think when they gonna nerf ds4

[nocturne dust]

Cringe and L take is the extent of my Zoomer knowledge

[haughty star]

they're probably not going to lol

[nocturne dust]

They seem scared of nerfing things

[haughty star]

look at how long people been crying about revolver and plasma and ds4 back before the other chars had em

[nocturne dust]

which I don't blame them after the power sword debacle

[azure parcel]

I think they're just gonna introduce more busted stuff

And then give us Havoc where 99% of us will just die anyway

[tacit stump]

i hope they buff stuff aswell

[analog agate]

The hardest thing about Havoc will be finding a party

[waxen jackal]

Does anyone have a purg build I could use? Like the talent tree?

[nocturne dust]

😭

[azure parcel]

I use the one in the pinned guide

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/

A nice guide for you

[waxen jackal]

Thank you everyone.

[analog agate]

My personal one is this

[nocturne dust]

Mine is similar but I drop Warp Battery for KD

[waxen jackal]

So I'm reading some of the skills. With empyric resolve. Is that saying that your toughness regens slower?

[nocturne dust]

I could never drop KD

[nocturne dust]

Yes, all sources of toughness are cut by a % other than Coherency Regen and Blessings that give toughness

[waxen jackal]

Okay just wanted to be sure

[analog agate]

Fair enough on taking KD. I have just dropped it on all my builds

[waxen jackal]

Yeah everyone's build was pretty similar. Just some small changes

[tacit stump]

how meta is mettle?

[nocturne dust]

ER is an incredibly minor boost on Inferno. It still is a boost, but it's the only staff where you can easily not take it without issue.

[analog agate]

Meta

[nocturne dust]

Not.

[waxen jackal]

It's funny, with zealot there are pretty much 2 main builds. Crit and non crit. Some small changes here and there. But psyker has a little more variety.

[nocturne dust]

Perfect Timing is the meta. Mettle is just better than Warp Expenditure.

[analog agate]

Deadvoid can tell you one off meta build that doesn’t use it haha

^^^ He explains why above.

[tacit stump]

i use it mostly or only on gunker

[haughty star]

PSYKER has so much build variety

[nocturne dust]

Because you have to path through it for Perfect Timing 😭

[analog agate]

Yeah, I edited my comment

[nocturne dust]

Mettle itself is eh. I'd almost prefer Souldrinker to be there.

[analog agate]

Its meta because expenditure sucks

[nocturne dust]

But Mettle is nicer for gunker so 🤷‍♂️

[tacit stump]

is a inferno build with bb and empored psionics good

[nocturne dust]

It's alright

Inferno will still inferno

[tacit stump]

else i have one with assail and warp siphon

[analog agate]

If you want to do an EP BB build. Inferno staff would probably be the best option

[nocturne dust]

BB though is mediocre even with EP. It'll work but 🤷‍♂️

[tacit stump]

i have only this one cause of wildfire...

[azure parcel]

I feel like BB is incredibly helpful to snipe elites in pugs

[nocturne dust]

It's too slow

and doesn't even hit BPs a lot of the time

[azure parcel]

Good range though

[tacit stump]

do you think they rework smite one day

[nocturne dust]

Sure, about the only thing it's good at is countering snipers

[azure parcel]

Can kill stuff before it even becomes a threat

[nocturne dust]

Eeeeehhhh

I wouldn't say that for BB

[haughty star]

i've been rocking assail with inferno like this and i find it much more fun than just running around doing only inferno things

[nocturne dust]

Like, yeah, you can pre-charge and get one elite out of the game early

[azure parcel]

I use it for snipers, gunners, bombers, trappers, sometimes flamers

[waxen jackal]

Is bb brain burst? And is that different than brain rupture?

[nocturne dust]

Now swap to EK staff and feel what is essentially better BB

[azure parcel]

I don't have a good EK staff yet

[nocturne dust]

BB is brainburst which is another name for brain rupture

[azure parcel]

But don't you need to aim for EK primary fire

[haughty star]

they could buff bbs charge time to double and it still wouldn't be overpowered

[waxen jackal]

Ohh okay. I thought they were 2 different things

[azure parcel]

Or do you mean the secondary?

[nocturne dust]

You don't really need to use primary outside of snipers

[azure parcel]

I haven't used it much at all tbh

[tacit stump]

my top is bit different

[haughty star]

secondary is what youre referring to as the primary

[nocturne dust]

EK staff has two builds, secondary spam and primary spam

both are strong

but primary spam is super boring and dreadful

[azure parcel]

Primary is the bolts right, and secondary is the lightning

[nocturne dust]

yes

[haughty star]

you can kinda do both with the primary one it's just not as fast

[azure parcel]

So lightning you don't need to aim? And it has long range?

[tacit stump]

instead of perfect timing and mettle i have battle meditation and etherial shards

[haughty star]

mid range

[nocturne dust]

You don't need to aim, it has limited range. It goes out quite a distance, but that's the one thing BB has over it, being able to hit snipers at any range. But also just using primary even on a secondary build is faster than BB

[haughty star]

i can't in good consciousness ever pick BM unless it's a smiteker build

[wispy bay]

My build. Roast me.

[nocturne dust]

Battle Meditation is not good.

[analog agate]

Ew

[azure parcel]

[haughty star]

it's only great use case is smiteker

and even then it's just kind of a may as well grab

[tacit stump]

why?

[tacit stump]

to low chance

[haughty star]

yes

and inferno doesn't need help in warp res

[nocturne dust]

low proc chance for just a bit of quelling is eh

Nothing needs that low amount of quelling

and it can also mess with you by activating at the wrong time

[waxen jackal]

Can the purg staff crit?

[haughty star]

on smiteker it can be inpactful

[steel flame]

It does have the chance to pull you out of kaboom, but it's not something you want to rely on

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Crits apply 2 stacks of soulblaze instead of 1

so crit good on Inferno

Wait

[steel flame]

And the crit direct damage is really good

[waxen jackal]

Oh cool. But the electro can't?

[nocturne dust]

@waxen jackal I gave you a guide that says this.

[analog agate]

Electro crits too

[nocturne dust]

EK crits too.

[waxen jackal]

Reading is for nerds

Jk lol

[steel flame]

Smite can't, lightning staff can

[waxen jackal]

Smite is what I was thinking of

[nocturne dust]

turns on answering machine and leaves

[analog agate]

What do you think this is? The Ogryn section?

[waxen jackal]

Tbh I was reading through the skills again and hadn't gotten down to the bottom text yet.

[nocturne dust]

Second paragraph, lol

[waxen jackal]

Yeah I started reading it now lol.

I honestly appreciate the detail and explanation behind the choices. Typically no one bothers to take the time to type out expectations on the game lantern builds I've seen before.

[analog agate]

That’s because it was created by someone in this Discord. 99.9% of GL builds are bad and made by people who don’t understand the game

[nocturne dust]

I also made it hidden from the public

(mostly because I'm still writing some things about it)

[waxen jackal]

I try not to use them unless someone in here sends them to me now

[potent echo]

Just make your own builds

[tacit stump]

does someone even use by crack of bone or warpsplitting

[nocturne dust]

I do

Warp Splitting is great for melee/assail/voidstrike

Crack of Bone is useful on Gunker who is Assailker who is Meleeker

[haughty star]

wait how is warp splitting good for voidstrike?

doesn't it have infinite cleave?

[nocturne dust]

it improves voidstrike cleave

[nocturne dust]

no?

[wide maple]

It has a lot of cleave, not infinite IIRC

[nocturne dust]

Yes

It cleaves like 12 if I'm not mistaken

[tacit stump]

does warp splitting work on assail?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[tacit stump]

oh

[nocturne dust]

It's why you see people dumping ethereal shards more now

[haughty star]

yeah erethreal is basically non impactful with warp splitting

[atomic swan]

i do use that
i think that by crack of bone is for true scrier meleeker
otherwise it is awkward for mixing with staff

[tacit stump]

maybe i gonna delete a burn build and make a meele scrier psyker

uhm scrier psykers like empyric resolve right?

[haughty star]

no do not waste points on er for scriers lol

[nocturne dust]

They can

It's not a terrible choice for Voidstrike Scriers

[haughty star]

literallly a monumental waste of talent points lol

[nocturne dust]

Not at all, ER hater.

[haughty star]

um

that's like 5 points

[nocturne dust]

4

[haughty star]

4 of which are non impactful to voidstrike

[nocturne dust]

Solidity is useful, wdym

[haughty star]

barely?

[tacit stump]

faster quellspeed yes

[haughty star]

it's negligible at best on VS

[nocturne dust]

It really isn't.

Especially if you go Scrier's VS

[haughty star]

this is literally just your weird obsession with ER comign through lol ER on voidstrike is a straight garbage take

[nocturne dust]

This is what you always say mahn

[nocturne dust]

I'm just going to agree to disagree because you can't handle the truth

[nocturne dust]

That's cursed

[tacit stump]

how so

[haughty star]

you completely give up perilous for a dumb talent lol

[nocturne dust]

Perilous isn't that useful on Voidstrike, almost everything dies to balls and ER lets you send more balls

[haughty star]

that's a "l take"

[nocturne dust]

Uh huh

[haughty star]

perilous is literally useful on everything

[nocturne dust]

Agreeing to disagree

[nocturne dust]

Sure.

I didn't say it was useless.

[nocturne dust]

no Warp Rider

[tacit stump]

oh

[nocturne dust]

and bad peril gen

I mean toughness gen

Is that a gunker?

[haughty star]

there's no point tax that makes gunker worth running ER on lol

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, ER on Gunker is not worth it, lol.

[haughty star]

was my original point before you moved the fucking goalpost lol

[nocturne dust]

I never said ER was worth it on Gunker

so idk what you mean 'moving goalpost'

There was no goalpost

[haughty star]

someone asking about builds isn't gonna be using a VS build, they said scrier's build which to a normal person would infer gunker

[nocturne dust]

That's you-logic.

Literally.

[haughty star]

deductive reasoning. not everyone has it

[nocturne dust]

Well it was a type of reasoning.

[haughty star]

yeah keep dragging that thing around lol

literally moving the goalpost. original statement was meleeker which would still be a monumental waste of talent points for ER

[nocturne dust]

yeah keep dragging that thing around lol

[tacit stump]

that should work

[nocturne dust]

I would get rid of warp expenditure and grab soulstealer

Assail is your toughness generator

I would also swap Mind in Motion for Malefic Momentum

Mind in Motion speed is still slower than just dodging/sliding

[plucky flax]

Yeah if you play monster modifier and you know your team might struggle with specials

Also take ee instead in the build above

[nocturne dust]

Anticipation is fine.

Meleeker can worth with either.

[plucky flax]

Fine if you don't mind inferior choice I guess.

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[plucky flax]

[tacit stump]

i didn't play lot of gunker was mostly staff guy

[nocturne dust]

Anticipation is better the slower your attacks are imo, EE only helps more if you can proc it semi-reliably

Recon and Vraks will be procing it plenty, but it's more questionable depending on your playstyle with other slower weapons

[waxen jackal]

Does anyone have any games that could help me practice m&k? I tried on darktide for the first time the other day and it went horribly

[haughty star]

I would personally try to get perilous on there cuz psyker without passive AOE is just a sin

[tacit stump]

when i played gunker i had the agrapina infantry autogun and deimos equipped

[nocturne dust]

I would never recommend Perilous Assault /s

[haughty star]

yeah that's a you thing lol

most sane people realize perilous is too strong not to take when you're one point away

[steel flame]

First off welcome to m&k. The PC master race welcomes you with one arms

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-confused-serious-superman-gif-15454166

[haughty star]

darktide will whip you into shape pretty quickly

[waxen jackal]

Lol I don't have a full PC. Just a rog ally. But it's a start

[haughty star]

and it's non impactful just because it's a stupid pve game

my wife's on the ally z1 extreme. it's nuts what those little shits can do

[steel flame]

@waxen jackal We all start somewhere, I started on an Acer that didn't even have word on it

[waxen jackal]

Yeah that's the same one I have. It's crazy. It has some limitations with really demanding AAA games. But I typically don't play those anyways

I got vermintide 2 for $1.50 the other day. I'm excited to play it, I hear the PC version isn't dead like the console version

[haughty star]

darktide is kind of a bear at high settings. never tried it on my wife's ally but it's pretty space limited so i try not to impose too much

[steel flame]

PC version is alive and well. Very fun game

[waxen jackal]

I've seen online that people have got it to run. Not at Max setting or anything. Even if I don't get it to work, I can plug a keyboard into my Xbox. To improve my aim and stuff

[steel flame]

I'd play some older games like halflife 2

Just to play older stuff like halflife 2 xP but also you won't have the over complicated mechanics getting in the way of learning m&k

[haughty star]

i play helldivers on her ally and it's okay

[haughty star]

yeah but as someone that just learned you won't get a good feel for modern stuff. all that old stuff is just on/off style movement if ya know what i'm saying

[waxen jackal]

I've been playing BioShock recently and I got halflife 2 for free the other day

[steel flame]

Hell yeah brother

Won't lie I can't go back to fps games on controller,

Still play loads of other non fps games on my steam deck tho

[tender meteor]

Does anyone know what the new Psyker weapon will play like

[tacit stump]

is it just me or is the psyker skilltree the most difficult to build properly

[nocturne dust]

I think Vet is the most difficult if you want to squeeze everything that you can out of it, hitting those BPs for specific weapons is a lot of number crunching

[tacit stump]

never did it so exactly

[nocturne dust]

well, the Vet guide makes it easier, lol

[steel flame]

There is a lot more going on in the psyker tree than just flat numbers, loads of stuff becomes great or terrible just based on what weapon you are using xP

[tacit stump]

so true

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ Idk, almost every staff build is the same, and almost every gun build is the same. Two builds.

[steel flame]

You can decide to be boring if you want

I'll pass on that

[nocturne dust]

I mean if you deviate from the meta, even Zealot gets weird

[steel flame]

With stuff like bolt pistol, Columnus and shotgun you can go loads of different directions since scriers isn't the most beneficial to those guns

And not every staff build is your boring same path for every staff build I know you like

[nocturne dust]

I said most staves for a reason

and it's less about what I like and more about what is the most effective.

I don't go around recommending Devil's Claw to noobs even if I like it.

[steel flame]

Only weapon I tell people not to use is the obscurus force sword or the mk5 ds

Dear God are there terrible

Here have diagonal slashing swords with 0 cleave, have fun

[tacit stump]

i think you need to use obscurus to unlock the others

[nocturne dust]

You don't?

I don't think they locked mks behind mastery

[tacit stump]

they did

[nocturne dust]

[steel flame]

They are rank locked but you can easily buy the other marks or get them from missions

[nocturne dust]

You sure that's not experience or something?

[tacit stump]

well likely we had enough lv to not care

they shanged it with lock and loaded

[nocturne dust]

Huh, you right

[steel flame]

I'm super excited for the new 2h force swords

[waxen jackal]

You could just buy a bunch of grey weapons and upgrade them to green or blue, then sacrifice them to get levels.

[steel flame]

Psychic cleave sounds very promising. Maybe we gonna get a moonlight great sword in darktids

[tacit stump]

same

[nocturne dust]

I'm keeping my expectations low.

[waxen jackal]

Force greatsword

Even if it sucks, it'll be nice to have a new weapon

[steel flame]

I wanna throw psychic slashes at people

[tacit stump]

i gonna get a melk weapon and gonna lv it manually

[waxen jackal]

The charge up is going to be different than 1 handed. Hope it's different in a good way

[nocturne dust]

I hope the charge is passive or something

[steel flame]

I'm hoping we get a power sword rework along with the 2h version too

[tacit stump]

i think more to charge heavies from other vames

[steel flame]

It will probably function like thrust

[tacit stump]

yes

maybe bit different

i use thrust on th

slaps monster extra hard

[steel flame]

I'm expecting new mechanics, otherwise they would have dropped this on us a while ago

[tacit stump]

relic power swords have a Overdrive mechanic

[waxen jackal]

So it has 3 charge levels that determine the cleave

[tacit stump]

and damage likely

maybe a lv 3 can onehit crushers

[waxen jackal]

Yeah, and when it says cleave does that mean like a projectile thing?

[nocturne dust]

Idk, this is faster than their previous schedule

[waxen jackal]

Psychic cleave. Whatever that means

[nocturne dust]

It will extend the range of the sword

[tacit stump]

maybe like a energy wave

[waxen jackal]

Maybe like the giant fight in ds3

Yohm

Well I think it's time to go play some rogue trader. Thank y'all for your help

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/gundam-sword-anime-gif-9847698

[steel flame]

God I love rogue trader

Have abelard twist some nuts for me

[waxen jackal]

Abelard come up with a witty response for me

Honestly one of my favorite games rn

[steel flame]

Dlc?

The dlc is so dam good, if difficult

[waxen jackal]

The dlc is probably one of the best crpg dlcs I've played

I can't wait till the 2nd one

Kibellah is my wife

[potent echo]

I'll wait for all 3 dlcs

[waxen jackal]

I think there's only 2. At least that's all that's included in the Season pass. I considered waiting, but it gives me a good reason to play through the game again. Since it's interwoven through the main story

[ebon nymph]

wish we got new staves tbh... I grow tired of the same few staves that we have

[nocturne dust]

Yeh, I'd rather staves.

[ebon nymph]

but imma be moonlight greatswording the fuck out of atoma you have no idea

call me Ludwig

Aaah you were there at my side all along

My true mentor

[nocturne dust]

I guess it's nice to have something but idk, I just don't like melee on Psyker. I don't foresee force greatsword being very fun for me.

[ebon nymph]

My guiding moonlight

[ebon nymph]

Melee is kind of necessary as part of the game

so

[nocturne dust]

sure but like

[ebon nymph]

I dont mind, itll be interesting

but yeah more staves please

[nocturne dust]

'melee' on Staffker is pulling your sword out to 1-hit a mutant and then back to staffing around

[ebon nymph]

i may not be playing my psyker like you then

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[ebon nymph]

cause ill be juicing mobs with Smite, and then swapping to sword and cleaning up

[nocturne dust]

Ew

Smite is boring gameplay

[ebon nymph]

sibling, this is why you have the mean voices in your head

and i have my beloved

[fast coral]

smite for everything is boring gameplay

[nocturne dust]

My Beloved says you're the mean one

[fast coral]

Smite used sparingly is valid

[ebon nymph]

Last time i checked which was a while ago, smite was the suckiest blitz out of the three

people were bitching more about the shards being boring and annoying cause they just killed things

but now its smite

[nocturne dust]

Must be crazy people

[ebon nymph]

can we have a consistent narrative anymore or are we far past that

[fast coral]

People bitch about every play style tbh

[spice veldt]

balance patches
assail got nerfed so people aren't as inclined to complain about it
smite got some buffs

[ebon nymph]

Nobodies bitched about Sanctuary Bubble and Smite as Crowd Control and support until today

[nocturne dust]

Yeah are we talking about the majority or just some random people

[fast coral]

only complaint I feel like is valid, is when I see smykers use smite as a primary weapon lmao

[nocturne dust]

You must not come to Discord very often

[spice veldt]

oh they definitely complain about bubblers

[clear heath]

things changed and people's opinions about them changed
wow insane

[ebon nymph]

again this wasnt a problem when i made the build because everyone was telling me to not use smite cause its just the worse version of Surge staff

[fast coral]

lol

I am looking forward to force greatsword tho

[ebon nymph]

that is frankly, stupid of people to do

[plucky flax]

They told you not to use it cos it makes games too easy

[ebon nymph]

thats free sanctuary from ranged attacks

[fast coral]

I'll have to run melee focused Psyker for a bit to get ready

[ebon nymph]

that is stupid reasoning

for stupid people

[plucky flax]

Yes

[spice veldt]

people do shit on support a bit much
understandable why in this current meta, but still a bit much

[plucky flax]

Just spam smite if you like it

[ebon nymph]

listen if you want to get shot by a bajillion gunners by all means step outside the bubble

more room for the rest of us

[ebon nymph]

i never said i wasnt gonna stop

[fast coral]

I said that and someone said just slide to avoid ranged attacks. Tf is wrong with having both options. Mfers only want people to play one way.

[ebon nymph]

merely expressing the ridiculousness of people finding it a problem in a PvE game

[ebon nymph]

if they want a challenge tell them to go into auric in a solo private

otherwise stay out of pubs

people will smite and use bubble and thats okay because then you win

because this game does not fuck around some times

[nocturne dust]

You can't do solo private

[nocturne dust]

It's a valid complaint, if something is strong enough that it turns the game off for everyone involved.

[nocturne dust]

Specifically, the problem is smite, not bubble. Bubble ain't that strong

[tacit stump]

i would like to get some map penances done

which is not martyr skulls or icons

[left basin]

force gs kruber stab when

[tacit stump]

i think zealot gs had stab

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/toon-link-wind-waker-zelda-puppet-buddy-little-buddy-gif-555488349556038073

fucking zealots

[tacit stump]

it has as special

we have a wide, chargeable cleave

[tacit stump]

yep zealot have running stab

[languid tusk]

I bet your playstyle is bad

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/pomeranian-knife-run-chucky-kill-gif-26089691

[potent echo]

Unique engagement tactics

It's a competition between them and knife zealots

[fast coral]

considering that apparently every playstyle is bad, according to this discord

yes

[compact cargo]

Lord chaxe will hear about this

[tame venture]

just the one you use

(you) of course

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[ionic sorrel]

I wonder how it will be different from Illisi sword?

[tacit stump]

3 levels of charge

[ionic sorrel]

Oh, right.

[night garnet]

heya guys, what are good stats for an inferno staff? trying to figure out what to look for

[echo root]

80% everything except warp res.

[tacit stump]

let the warp juice flow into you

[echo root]

Warp juice is converted into soul blaze when I scream

[tacit stump]

i hope you wear a skull on your head

[quartz barn]

I guess having burn above 76 doesnt matter as long as your warp res is as low as possible?

[paper harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1308739490583543908/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.11.20_-_04.22.05.01.mp4?ex=673f0a21&is=673db8a1&hm=9cf5927ee85484d350248c65bd15ff466379c0ac38de626e8a483a89e00d381d&

[night garnet]

how about the perks/blessings? this is what i'm using currently https://i.imgur.com/gLB89SN.png

[left basin]

when nu force sticks

[brazen rampart]

Change your perks to flak maniac or flak elites, you hit the burn % breakpoint so it works good enough until you can pull a perfect stat dist roll.

[echo root]

Perks
Crit Chance + Flak damage (Soul Blaze / LMB / RMB Always hits the chest of any target, Flak is most common on the chest)
Blessings
Blaze Away + Warp Nexus.

[brazen rampart]

Is crit really that good on purg though?

I know it makes one tick count for two stacks but don't you hit max stacks or outright kill something too fast anyway for that to matter?

Especially with blaze away.

[echo root]

Mettle and Perfect timing stacks

[brazen rampart]

Just don't get hit.

You're literally using purg.

[brazen rampart]

It stops everything you're flaming in its tracks, including ragers.

[echo root]

Getting to max stacks more consistently before Shrieking as well

Shriek doesn't respect max stack cap

I prefer the crit chance, but maniac is probably my second choice after it.

[paper harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046913589614747719/1308743544369840198/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_2024.11.20_-_04.34.34.07.mp4?ex=673f0de8&is=673dbc68&hm=467a3ffcc342449887d95fc8135d11ef7cf414c7e18136e92c5bfc87b9080005&

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't kill things that quickly. It's still slower than most weapons against single targets, which makes sense.

Hey

👀

[nocturne dust]

We can talk about vet, lol

[humble bolt]

i thought this was zealot chat my b

[nocturne dust]

and zealot weps

[nocturne dust]

smh my head

[radiant frigate]

who gave a big bonk to the psyker

[humble bolt]

will the new force sword finally beat dueling sword 4??? im sick of poking ngl

[paper harbor]

rogue trader

[nocturne dust]

I doubt it hard

It would be nice if it somehow preferred right side of the tree

[humble bolt]

right side psyeker is my favorite by far. it kinda sucks that dueling sword is the only unique viable melee wep for scrier gaze psyker tho. im really hoping 2 handed force sword will shake things up. also it just sounds kinda badass

[paper harbor]

@radiant frigate have you watch this clip yet?

[radiant frigate]

i did now

but why care about boltgun killing bonbon from the back

anything can do that

[paper harbor]

just a sample

psyker with boltgun sure funny

[radiant frigate]

or rather any gun can

[paper harbor]

i know vrak does kill plogryn with scrier once i saw

just trying something that restricted from the class

the cursed

[radiant frigate]

plasma psyler next

[paper harbor]

should try charge attack on crusher while under scrier gaze?

i wanna see if is did 1 shot

yeah it did one shotting

gonna test on bosses

[echo root]

Power Sword pskyer

[paper harbor]

sure

if the power greatsword drop ill try on vet

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[plucky flax]

The direct damage is super good too with blaze away.

[digital narwhal]

Blaze Away + Warp Nexus
Flak + Crit Chance

Goes hard

[plucky flax]

Big crit big damage.

I go flak unyielding to kill big guys.

[pine relic]

Any melee build for psykers?

[thin finch]

Mostly Scrier's gaze and any pointy stick your heart desire

[left basin]

cleave... malefic momentum... scriers... illisi

[thin finch]

It's even viable with force sword now ,which is great !

[left basin]

funny murderation, but don't expect a steamroll

it's still kinda mediocre because psyker's melee is an afterthought

but very usable

[nocturne dust]

Watch them make force greatsword the end-all be-all of melees instead of improving meleeker

[brazen rampart]

They'll probably make it have some poor draw time if that's the case.

[pine relic]

Yeah I probably should keep playing zealot, psyker's stats are not built for melee

[brazen rampart]

Normal force swords would be your prime defensive option, while 2h would be your offensive option.

[nocturne dust]

Perilous Assault meta?

[brazen rampart]

Maybe.

It's just what I theorize.

[sacred crane]

OMG SIBLINGS ITS HAPPENING

TWO HANDED FORCE SWORDS

I WILL FINALLY HAVE AN EXCUSE TO PLAY AGAIN

[young spear]

can you walk through doors

[nocturne dust]

no, the video has them pressing the button which moves the door. The door is 'moving past them' in a sense.

[young spear]

the door walked through me????

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[brazen rampart]

Yes.

[young spear]

the indignity..

[nocturne dust]

Stop being walk-throughable. E z.

[echo root]

Looks pretty dope, never actually tried the powersword since it's Vet only. My vet exclusively uses a combat axe with brutal momentum.

[nocturne dust]

I prefer axe, honestly. Power sword is fun but super annoying with how slow it is and how it just doesn't do anything if it isn't charged

[echo root]

CAXE with Bromentum just slaps

It's not that good against bigger mobs, but they fall to the bolter anyways.

[nocturne dust]

It still clears them pretty decently.

Shovels are also neat, especially because they kinda just work and don't need any melee talents

[echo root]

I don't use any melee talents on my vet

Gun go brrrr

[nocturne dust]

on Caxe?

I can't handle Caxe without attack speed

[echo root]

I just do 2x Lmb -> Push attack -> Repeat

Shooting everything that isn't horde anyways

[nocturne dust]

I guess if it's only horde... but still.

It offends my sensibilities.

[echo root]

Why spend talent points on something you only do 15% of the time

-> I need ammo

-> I need ammo

-> I need ammo

-> I need ammo

[nocturne dust]

That is not how I use caxe vet, lol

If I'm taking axe, all I see are trees

[echo root]

This reminds me, I had a Zealot in my lobby that was lvl ~136, he screamed at the Veteran in our party about him picking up ammo.

Checked scoreboard, Vet had taken 2 ammo boxes and the zealot had taken all the other ones that match

Bro was seething over mic

[nocturne dust]

This is why I play psyker

[echo root]

https://tenor.com/view/stranger-things-fire-flame-gif-14920648

[nocturne dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[tacit stump]

gunpsyker