After playing a few games with Voidstrike I have to say I think it pales in comparison to the other staves.
#psyker-class
nocturne dust
It's the weakest of the staves from my view, but also not by much. It's still strong.
strong gulch
Reliving Mr Body getting carried.
radiant lance
It's the weakest of the staves from my view, but also not by much. It's still st...
I think it's just needs an extra something. Maybe more damage. Maybe faster charge rate.
nocturne dust
I don't think it needs an extra something. It's fine as it currently is.
strong gulch
Maybe un-nerf true aim 
nocturne dust
That would be nice. Mettle too.
strong gulch
METTLE 😭
potent echo
When update 
nocturne dust
When update <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765107>
potent echo
radiant lance
So generally speaking why is Warp Resistance bad? Because you want to be at high peril to make use out of Warp Rider?
potent echo
Sort of
You still don't want 0% warp resist except for maybe purga
You want enough warp resist so you can edge cast your staff
strong gulch
WR is usually dumped because the scaling isn't that wide, we have ER for the high peril gen staves, and most staff builds are shriek spam builds witch need you to be at high peril for the full 6 stacks of SB.
WR = warp resist
ER = empyric resolve
SB = soulblaze
cyan portal
The sweet spot is one quell tick from 100 giving space for a full charged secondary.
strong gulch
Depends on build for general shriek build, surge / EK staff and trauma staff.
cyan portal
ER purga requires a very low warp res force sword, but if you've got one it is peak purga.
strong gulch
Also voidstrike if you are doing scrier's with warp unbound. I don't use that a lot tho.
radiant lance
If you are going left keystone you will be getting ER
Just always?
nocturne dust
Void usually likes DD more but WC void works too
Me going right keystone on Voidstrike and still grabbing ER anyway
strong gulch
Unless you are doing something niche or memes, I would NOT do ER with purg / inferno and warp charges (left keystone).
nocturne dust
crimson wigeon
been stuck on cliff hanger for ages, this penance is the epitome of easier said than done lol
nocturne dust
ER is an improvement for Inferno, but it's also often a hassle.
silent wigeon
been stuck on cliff hanger for ages, this penance is the epitome of easier said ...
Find a bridge during a horde
strong gulch
Unless you are doing something niche or memes, I would NOT do ER with purg / inf...
forgot the "not" lol apologies
echo root
Burgatus my beloved
crimson wigeon
again easier said than done 😭😭😭
nocturne dust
If you want to absolutely max DPS, take ER, but the improvement is super tiny for having to constantly make sure your peril is where it needs to be to shriek off cooldown.
silent wigeon
again easier said than done 😭😭😭
Hi intensity helps
crimson wigeon
yeah i always find a bridge hand around a but than the second i leave to catch up with the team a horde starts im being smited by rngjesus lmao
strong gulch
The mental burden of "When will I be in danger enough to get the benefits of edging?"
silent wigeon
There's a map with the final in a tower, can't remember the name, should be easy there
On thing I'm learning is don't shriek before rez
crimson wigeon
ngl i 90% use venting shriek so i can spam abilities longer and just undo the about to explode
also i seem to be incredibly in the minority here but does anyone else find smite underwhelming
cyan portal
smite is a crutch, if you can walk properly crutches aren't very useful
crimson wigeon
i just find the other two way more useful than super low dmg stun, free near insta horde clear and massive single target dmg just both seem better to me
atomic swan
facing gunners, kinda weak
godamm iron fortress, its good
maybe not the quickest but sure its the easiest way to deal with pack of ogryns
nocturne dust
i just find the other two way more useful than super low dmg stun, free near ins...
Dang, we have a 4th blitz nobody told me about that does massive single target dmg?
steep estuary
The forbidden blitz
crimson wigeon
okay its like medicore single target dmg but with the talent that quells peril quicker and one or two peril buildup reducers it can do some crazy damage
nocturne dust
Brainburst can, with a fully-invested build, do okay single target damage.
I would never call it crazy, especially because of the requirements on top of the duration limitations.
crimson wigeon
idk i watched a guy solo a beast of nurgle on damnnation with it it was rad
steep estuary
Yeahhh makes malleum monstronum look like a bit of a chore
crimson wigeon
also mmmm ignore armour
also ngl when i found out you could turn the force sword into a weaker ogryn shield, i have not used anything else since its peak
nocturne dust
idk i watched a guy solo a beast of nurgle on damnnation with it it was rad
🤷♂️ Sadly it sucks all around and there are quite a few tools that outperform it even on Psyker, let alone other classes that do single target way better.
cyan portal
BR with resonance in a shriek spam build is fine for killing priority targets fairly quickly.
nocturne dust
I disagree. A lot of tools do a better job than BR at normal distances.
steep estuary
also ngl when i found out you could turn the force sword into a weaker ogryn shi...
Deflector can be a lot of fun yeah
nocturne dust
The one thing it has is the ease with which you can kill snipers with it.
tame venture
the issue i have with brainburst is that it always feels like it takes about a third too much time to kill something
nocturne dust
Yep, it takes too long to charge and is just a worse revolver/EK staff/high-value-target-killer
crimson wigeon
Deflector can be a lot of fun yeah
i love jst walking at gunner🫶🫶🫶
tame venture
like, it feels longer than taking a gun out and shooting
crimson wigeon
although it's become a problem when I use anything else because I'll block and try to walk towards a Gunner and then just fucking die
steep estuary
I like the combo of using kinetic deflection to charge up unstable power on my sword
Though I haven't swapped off the DS4 in a hot minute now
tacit stump
how much block cost reduction can you get with deflector and block cost reduction cutios
nocturne dust
how much block cost reduction can you get with deflector and block cost reductio...
are we using KD? cuz peril gen reduction also works
crimson wigeon
my second blessing on my force sword is the soul flame one because I have the perk I don't remember what it's called or but it gives you but it gives you a bonus for soulflame kills
cyan portal
BR should one tap everything except crusher, bulwark, reaper, mutant, bosses. And with 75% cast speed from resonance it does it very quikcly. All useful targets are taller than chaff, so you can just hold lmb and sweep above the crowd to lock onto good targets. Ideal for taking out bombers, trappers, snipers, flamers, shotgunners, etc.
tacit stump
are we using KD? cuz peril gen reduction also works
only as gunpsyker else nope not enough points
silent wigeon
🤷♂️ Sadly it sucks all around and there are quite a few tools that outperform ...
What do you do for boss damage on truama
tacit stump
my second blessing on my force sword is the soul flame one because I have the pe...
uncanny strike
nocturne dust
BR should one tap everything except crusher, bulwark, reaper, mutant, bosses. An...
It doesn't do this without EP or other buffs
crimson wigeon
speaking of gunpsyker why the hell is the double barrel shotgun the highest trust level weapon 💀💀💀💀
nocturne dust
What do you do for boss damage on truama
crimson wigeon
force sword my beloved
nocturne dust
No, dueling sword
tacit stump
It doesn't do this without EP or other buffs
i used it a lot with voip charges
tacit stump
force sword my beloved
deimos or illisi
crimson wigeon
nuh uh force sword better cause uuuh it looks cool and i can make it glow and uuuh i can quell peril with it out
nocturne dust
You should be able to quell with all melees
crimson wigeon
actually the best weapon is obviously the catachan butter knife
crimson wigeon
You should be able to quell with all melees
oh I didn't know that I only use the force sword lol
tacit stump
You should be able to quell with all melees
not with a gunblade
nocturne dust
oh I didn't know that I only use the force sword lol
No u can't
steep estuary
Purgatus blessing combo is wha? Blaze away and warp nexus?
crimson wigeon
oh yeah ture
cyan portal
It doesn't do this without EP or other buffs
warp charges or peril is enough to hit the break points easily. Shouldn't ever be below 50 peril.
steep estuary
It'd be nice to quell with non-force weapons yeah
crimson wigeon
I wish the devil claw sworde was better overall cuz the parry ability is so funny
nocturne dust
warp charges or peril is enough to hit the break points easily. Shouldn't ever b...
Shouldn't be a requirement in the first place.
crimson wigeon
below 50 peril hell nah I got the perk that lets me survive overload and I be running into crowds and overloading like a suicide bomber
steep estuary
Pfffff
crimson wigeon
FOR THE EMPEROR 💥💥💥💥
nocturne dust
below 50 peril hell nah I got the perk that lets me survive overload and I be ru...
ogryn bomb crystalline will wheeeeeeeeennnnn
tacit stump
deadvoid maybe one day we get thr chimera pistolsword
crimson wigeon
they should let the ogryn throw overloaded psykers
nocturne dust
deadvoid maybe one day we get thr chimera pistolsword
I don't even know what that is
crimson wigeon
like grenade
you know what I want that would never get added I want the space Marine version of the combat knife and I want to use it like a sword because it basically be a great sword to normal people
give it to zealot
it'd go so hard
comically large butter knife
crimson wigeon
you know what the ogryn needs for a melee weapon, his hands
I want the ogryn to be able to throw hands
steep estuary
crimson wigeon
fat shark let the ogryn fist fight the darktide and my life is yours
tacit stump
fat shark let the ogryn fist fight the darktide and my life is yours
maybe some gaunlets or brass knuckles
steep estuary
Hi-Intensity Ogryn Trooper Gauntlet
tacit stump
fat shark let the ogryn fist fight the darktide and my life is yours
so long you can use the grenadier gaunlet
fathom adder
Mars Pattern Mk1 Rip and Tear
radiant frigate
don't give in to the voices, sibling
restive slate
Psyker Ogryn?
restive slate
so long you can use the grenadier gaunlet
I want a single large tube grenadier gauntlet
radiant frigate
i want.. force greatsword
radiant frigate
I want Force Javelin(like Kerillian Javelins)
voidstrike minus the animation
mossy oyster
where is my god damn 2h force sword
spice veldt
where is my two hands
mossy oyster
waiting on fatshark to make it 2H
spice veldt
magic javelins of some sort would be pretty cool
mossy oyster
spice veldt
fuckin launch that shit and see it impale into an enemy's body
or into your teammates
radiant frigate
voidspear force staff
steep estuary
Assail staff
restive slate
Imagine a porcupined Plogryn
spice veldt
just blow up the assail shard size by 4x and use that as the projectile model
radiant frigate
just blow up the assail shard size by 4x and use that as the projectile model
efficient
spice veldt
it's just that shrimple
tacit stump
i want.. force greatsword
please the illisi variant
radiant frigate
please the illisi variant
biggus choppus
mossy oyster
just blow up the assail shard size by 4x and use that as the projectile model
super assail be upon ye
restive slate
Chopping a Plogryn in half
radiant frigate
i still prefer my idea of force gs but the chance of it happening like i want it is like
less than zero
tacit stump
biggus choppus
and make one attack a overhead
restive slate
and make one attack a overhead
So recreating Krubers Executioner Sword?
tacit stump
no
restive slate
When charged, it acts like GK Kruber Ult
radiant frigate
bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk
spice veldt
and you hit with the flat of the blade
tacit stump
executioner is to slow
radiant frigate
i still say make it Always On™️
build peril with every swing
quell on block
parry special
an overhead heavy somewhere
mossy oyster
an interactive melee weapon moveset for soyker
radiant frigate
or perhaps overhead PA
tacit stump
i love quell on block
mossy oyster
radiant frigate
built-in deflector
devours your ranged weapon slot
ranged parry creates an assail shard to be launched with your next swing
up to 5
but that's just hypothetical
steep estuary
Damn that'd be cool
radiant frigate
yes that's why i want it
gritty gorge
doing that while one of the especially good tracks plays would go so hard
winter siren
yeah DT has a great soundtrack
gritty gorge
disposal unit got me to buy the game
winter siren
i played a little vt and then vt2 and dt from launch. great combat, not quite as good as mordhau and chiv but pretty rewarding
there are times when i really miss directional input
left basin
darkti de
left basin
When charged, it acts like GK Kruber Ult
yes yes yes i want gk stab
upper sun
u got eyes?
worn heron
u got eyes?
Noob
molten saddle
Sword question
Ive been running uncanny strikes for my blaze sword.
Is that or slaughterer better?
nocturne dust
Uncanny is better for single targets, slaughterer for hordes
molten saddle
Ahhh gotcha
Been playing zealot and ogryn ALOT and havent touched my psyker in ages
Running inferno staff with pen flame and warp nexus so figuring out whats better
winter siren
for a crit blaze build i like taking riposte
but if you have horde clear staff you probs want to lean into single target more with uncanny to deal with crushers and stuff
nocturne dust
Is blazing spirit worth it
no, it is a meme
molten saddle
Bis?
winter siren
best in slot
molten saddle
no, it is a meme
Why?
nocturne dust
Because it only works on crits, and on crits you kill the things you hit
and it doesn't even activate on things you kill
so there's no benefit
winter siren
it does work, I reg light up hordes with cleave
nocturne dust
It isn't significant enough to help with non-horde, and hordes you really don't get much benefit out of just hitting them
nocturne dust
it does work, I reg light up hordes with cleave
You're not using slaughterer 🤷♂️
winter siren
because its a crit build
nocturne dust
Slaughterer you just kill them rather than apply a DoT, it's easy to see which is more beneficial
winter siren
its maxing crit with the 5% perk and 20% on dodges which means its basically perma uptime
winter siren
the way i understand cleave is you deal reduced damage to subsequent targets which is how a crit can kill first target with headshot then cleave into a pack and apply burns. you wouldnt normally kill them all with cleave anyway
nocturne dust
Slaughterer gives strength, which increases damage and cleave
molten saddle
winter siren
i have a healthy collection of weapons, the question was "Sword question
Ive been running uncanny strikes for my blaze sword."
molten saddle
Is my current one. So its a toss up between uncanny and slaughter depending on if yoy wana. Focus elite or horde
winter siren
what is a blaze sword?
nocturne dust
Force blaze swords
It's in their name
or blaze force swords
I can never remember the order
winter siren
deimos or illisi specify a particular type which have diff movesets and strengths, asking it as blaze made me just go blaze blessing, as normally it would be the type not the family
but eh, my misunderstanding of the question
molten saddle
Thats my bad for not clarrifying
nocturne dust
I mean, I've run the numbers. It's sad, but flame sword really is just a meme. I would love for it to be effective, but you normally end up hitting enemies the same amount of times anyway and don't actually get to a breakpoint with the DoT because chaff just doesn't last long enough.
winter siren
you do get benefits from a crit build like taking empathetic evasion so you dont need deflector
and you do get wildfire and souldrinker perks
nocturne dust
Souldrinker is eh. It's only 5% crit and toughness on soulblaze death(ish).
I don't know about pathing through wildfire and also grabbing souldrinker.
winter siren
5% toughness on every enemy affected by soulblaze dying
nocturne dust
high point tax
nocturne dust
5% toughness on every enemy affected by soulblaze dying
This is false
It's toughness when they die from soulblaze (or soulblaze ticks at the same time they die)
In practice, that means mostly deaths from soulblaze, and a smidgen of toughness when you get lucky
winter siren
hmmm, well i get plenty of kills from it usually, not insignificant at all i think
but that includes ranged weap obv
nocturne dust
104 kills is eh
compact cargo
Anyone old psyker running creeping barrage? Some of us rather not touch the new tools and want the good old
winter siren
its a crit soulbalze build with shriek and trauma
digital hill
Shriek 
nocturne dust
its a crit soulbalze build with shriek and trauma
Yes, and the vast majority of your soulblaze kills are probably from shriek (and trauma if it's fire trauma)
mossy oyster
lmfao inquisitor stare
nocturne dust
Anyone old psyker running creeping barrage? Some of us rather not touch the new ...
Wdym?
Staffker is mostly the same. Most of the new nodes are not worth taking, except Empyric Resolve and Buffed Kinetic Flayer (the latter barely)
digital hill
I wish KF was its own node separate from BB. Ugh.
nocturne dust
How about they just buff BB so it's actually good and useful
digital hill
I mean, if I get to keep KF in that case
winter siren
Yes, and the vast majority of your soulblaze kills are probably from shriek (and...
yes but im still getting a bonus 25% crit on melee with this weapon which does proc blaze and they do die from it sometimes since im not going to actually mince a horde with that build
digital hill
Because it's hilarious popping heads with force push.
winter siren
the melee is an ohshit i need to defend myself, not a charge into glorious melee thing
nocturne dust
yes but im still getting a bonus 25% crit on melee with this weapon which does p...
Yes. Do you think 25% crit is better than 40% strength which is both damage, stagger, and cleave? Oh, and the freed up perk.
winter siren
if i wanna do that ill play zealot
compact cargo
Staffker is mostly the same. Most of the new nodes are not worth taking, except ...
Empyric resolve is icky, I like my clutch but the other one just doesn't do anything
nocturne dust
Empyric resolve is icky, I like my clutch but the other one just doesn't do anyt...
ER is actually fantastic.
on most staves, anyway
compact cargo
I tried it and don't like it, I like my toughness!
nocturne dust
Just don't get hit
digital hill
You'll have plenty of toughness if you dodge!
compact cargo
Lord chaxe will deliver us
nocturne dust
Just don't get hit <:chadgryn:1161142998214656090>
That's only slightly a joke, ER really is all about mitigating damage before you take it, which is Psyker anyway.
We get Kinetic Deflection, EE, Anticipation
winter siren
Yes. Do you think 25% crit is better than 40% strength which is both damage, sta...
i have other weapons with other perks, do you understand the concept of building diff just to play the game a diff way even if it isnt meta coz im not a meta slave and i like to have fun rather than chase scoreboard numbers?
nocturne dust
They should get rid of unlucky for some and replace it with another reactive defense option
digital hill
lol
winter siren
i have enough hours, if i played only a few builds i would be bored of the game
i like spicing things up
nocturne dust
i have other weapons with other perks, do you understand the concept of building...
Sure, but don't phrase your viewpoint as a 'but' because it comes across as you rejecting my statement. 🤷♂️
compact cargo
i have enough hours, if i played only a few builds i would be bored of the game
Lord chaxe is all the spice
winter siren
Sure, but don't phrase your viewpoint as a 'but' because it comes across as you ...
the entire thing started due to a misunderstanding due to the similarity between the family name of swords and a blessing, and you havent stopped harping on about it not being the best, when i never said it was best
compact cargo
any psyker ignoring chaxe is blind to the truth
nocturne dust
the entire thing started due to a misunderstanding due to the similarity between...
Don't pretend like it isn't both of us continuing that convo.
winter siren
they asked blaze, i showed my blaze blessing sword, which works fine, it may not be meta or bis, but its a good weapon, and you just wont shut up about how its not meta
nocturne dust
any psyker ignoring chaxe is blind to the truth
I will continue to be blind then.
Don't need eyes when I can see into the warp.
compact cargo
Ignorance is bliss, lord Chaxe will bring salvation
molten saddle
Staffker is mostly the same. Most of the new nodes are not worth taking, except ...
So would you say K flayer over Knresonance?
nocturne dust
they asked blaze, i showed my blaze blessing sword, which works fine, it may not...
Bro, calm down. I literally only said a few things and then responded to your continued responses. It was a conversation, you participated.
winter siren
i never argued it was BIS, in fact i stated it works but is NOT bis
nocturne dust
So would you say K flayer over Knresonance?
Absolutely. KR is buffing a bad blitz into mediocrity, you don't want to use BB anyway.
If you want to actually use BB, then sure, grab KR.
nocturne dust
i never argued it was BIS, in fact i stated it works but is NOT bis
And my point was that it doesn't really work. It works in spite of the blaze, not because of it.
nocturne dust
So would you say K flayer over Knresonance?
Although imo KR isn't worth it even on Inferno when you do pull out BB a smidge.
molten saddle
Absolutely. KR is buffing a bad blitz into mediocrity, you don't want to use BB ...
I had a fear you may say that. Im just trying to work through the pennances🤣
nocturne dust
Well if you're going through penances, no harm in a BB-focused build
molten saddle
Is smite still best
Then for psyker?
nocturne dust
Smite is the strongest blitz, yes
Assail is good though.
It's only BB that is just plain bad.
tacit stump
i hope they buff bb
and i hope they shange one empored psionik ability that you get guaranteed stacks from elites and special kills and not only elites
gritty gorge
so is the augmented bb bad too? can't remember the actual name
tired estuary
nah ep bb is decent
tacit stump
i use it only on flame staff cause it is has some synergy perks locked atfer bb
nocturne dust
The bigger issue of EP BB is mainly that it's kinda how BB should be at base
Like the fact it eats your keystone just to get to that level is pretty... 😭
tacit stump
yeah
you can't use properly warp syphon without pain if you want wild fire
and wild fire on fire staff is fun
made myself a burn build with assail instead which has no wildfire...
digital hill
Im really enjoying my silly blaze eater build.
4th damnation completed! 😭
I've come so far.
molten saddle
It's only BB that is just plain bad.
Yeah it just feels mid AF on elites and monstrosities
digital hill
BB charge rate should increase alongside peril, with it topping out at like 80. Successful kill instantly quells some %, letting you edge BB. Maybe increasing damage for each kill, costing more peril and quelling less on kill.
radiant frigate
if only headsplosion was a good move outside of pressing f or picking EP
digital hill
Edging peril is fun.
radiant frigate
3-5 business days cast time
digital hill
Serious.
What the fuck kind of bandwidth does my psyker have
Brain must be half fried.
radiant frigate
for Not That Much Damage
brave crown
anyone want to do brain burst penance?
molten saddle
Which one
molten saddle
Oooo i need that
static needle
Building a Disrupt Destiny voidstrike staff/melee psyker with bubble shield. Is warp rider really a must, for this? doesnt Disrupt Destiny make up for the loss in damage by itself?
wind spruce
Building a Disrupt Destiny voidstrike staff/melee psyker with bubble shield. Is ...
You don't need battle meditation at all, void really doesn't generate that much peril
EE is also pretty much a waste with void
So there's enough points for warp rider
worthy heath
would anyone be willing to play a quick heresy game with me? wanted to do the Malleus Monstrum penance for psyker
digital hill
Building a Disrupt Destiny voidstrike staff/melee psyker with bubble shield. Is ...
It's not a must, but it's good damage.
Similar to my build, but I went smite so I can tag left and right columns.
steep estuary
What's a Biomancer?
digital hill
Someone with metabolic control over biological lifeforms.
Well, someone with control over biological systems.
steep estuary
Ohkay so this is probably an old description then
digital hill
Unsure, it might be established lore. There's Sanctus psykers, bio psykers, uhh
pyro
telepathic and something else.
Divination!
steep estuary
Didnt the classes have named level paths instead of the tree back in the early days?
digital hill
No idea, Im a newb.
But that sounds like why it might mention the class 🤣
I found a piece that just describes the color, class of cosmetic it is, etc
exotic crane
you can play as all those psyker classes in Rogue Trader, it's just a lore thing
digital hill
Rogue Trader, Inquisition, etc
brave crown
would anyone be willing to play a quick heresy game with me? wanted to do the Ma...
invite me
exotic crane
there's a biomancer and divination psyker companions too
steep estuary
For reference
exotic crane
What biomancer companion <:Evil:422892362872782869>
this guy
digital hill
Who now?
exotic crane
Heinrix from Rogue Trader
digital hill
The psyker I killed on sight for his heretical powers?
I like the navigator a lot. She's spooky.
And entirely too powerful.
spice flame
I've been pondering the idea of trying Rogue Trader
digital hill
If you played Wrath, and have high standards and expectations, you might be disappointed.
The story beats and character archetypes and general flow is basically a reskin of wrath.
spice flame
I did not
exotic crane
The story beats and character archetypes and general flow is basically a reskin ...
weird take
digital hill
Nah man, I played wrath enough that it's entirely ingrained in me.
exotic crane
they are nothing alike
digital hill
Definitely very similar beats and even basically copying characters over.
exotic crane
digital hill
lol remember when the scary and hot succubus went to the tavern after recruiting her, and chased everyone out? You get a npc that comes and says, hey my man, people are concerned about her being about can you go see whats up
What happens with the Navigator? You recruit her, she goes to the public little nook, you get a npc that comes and says
Hey man
People are spooked.
Then you have the Sister who is basically Ember, just not brain damaged. Although you could say being a zealot is brain damage!
And she herself has 3 paths, as does Ember.
Similar paths, too.
exotic crane
that's stretching it lmao
digital hill
Nah man.
exotic crane
basically saying Harry Potter is the same as LotR
digital hill
Nah.
Owlcat was real lazy with this.
I love Wrath.
Lovelove it. First game I broke 1k hours in lol
cosmic sigil
@plucky flax https://youtu.be/kWD5gdpt4Dw?si=BbWaSCIRo6Iei1ey
digital hill
Just like Ember, you have to guide and nurture her responses to events; compassion/redemption, middle of the road kind of chill and worldly, and then righteous fire
Sister has the same deal.
jovial juniper
I was looking at some cosmetics and one mentions Psyker Biomancer class
Left Tree iirc
The biomancer
The Protectorate being the middle
Then The Exile
Yeah?
steep estuary
tacit stump
do you mean force blaze sword?
jovial juniper
Or Dclaw?
tired estuary
everybody got hsword
tacit stump
everybody got hsword
yes
compact cargo
everybody got hsword
The wrong patchie makes all the difference
tacit stump
everyone has duelsword aswell but for ogryns it is a toothpick
compact cargo
Duel sword zealot is a crime
jovial juniper
Well
Funny Almost infinite parry
tacit stump
Duel sword zealot is a crime
works though
compact cargo
But atleast it means we got this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914161923334214/1308028789447589908/image.png?ex=673c743d&is=673b22bd&hm=6273f173829e06f78b58073522332f9384405a37367f1b1bd5122312029106d3&
tired estuary
ds been a crime since it got buffed over a year ago
compact cargo
works though
We didn't need more encouragement for mobile weapons on zealot
jovial juniper
That's pretty much all Dclaw is for Psyker
The parry stick
compact cargo
Isn't that lsword for everyone
get myself in 14 ragers infront of me
spam 1 button
win
then do nothing productive for the rest of the match
jovial juniper
Zealots can put in some work outside of funny parry
compact cargo
So can we technically as a "cooldown tool", we'll land a lot of headshots because it doesn't kill 
Why learn all this quelling tech
When we can run lsword
Jokes aside I still can't find a use for it
jovial juniper
Why learn all this quelling tech
picks dclaw 1
remembers to block cancel parries
messes up timing and dies
Can we get some dclaw 1 love in the chat
No? Yeah thought so
compact cargo
I mean it was fun leveling it up
I was handed this piece of junk and became the underdog for a few games
tacit stump
i preffer other weapons
compact cargo
It does kill ragers very well, if you don't mess up timing
but...that's it
I rather keep running chaxe to defy the dueling sword mafia
tacit stump
as psyker i use deimos, as vet i use p-sword and as zealot i run smiting with a thunder hammer
compact cargo
ALl based
tacit stump
i like to use the shovel on vet aswell
compact cargo
Helbore meme stabby ain't dead either
tacit stump
sharpshooter hellbore build likes to stab
compact cargo
Sharpshooter? 
tacit stump
left lodestone with executioner stance
idle delta
Why do people use the electric staff specifically for the m1 spam build ? Why never the other two ?
tired estuary
it has crit bonuses as a weapon stat
short lily
M1 build is so boring though
short lily
Animation lock won't let you
jovial juniper
plucky flax
Huh? You can left click spam with burga pretty well.
It's just lower damage than right click but safer due to stagger
jovial juniper
Storm FS headquarters and release that blessing
tacit stump
Spark heads help
have the same problem
edgy garnet
Same here
tacit stump
looks like a general psyker bug
flint marsh
Sorry if its a weirdly constructed question but I just saw a psyker that could use smite, grsnting him crowd control but whenever he smited elites it seemed to finish them off with a brain burst, he even did the hand motion of a brain burst as he finished them, basically seamless from shooting lightning.
What set of talents would allow me to do that?
tacit stump
maybe you mix it up with thr lightning staff
electrokinetic staff earlier known as surge
exotic crane
Sorry if its a weirdly constructed question but I just saw a psyker that could u...
the hand motion is common on many psyker abilities
the lightning staff has it, inferno staff has it
compact cargo
What is that damage
exotic crane
but you can watch the clip I sent, right?
because I can only hear the audio and the progress bar keeps going, but the image is stuck on the first frame
blissful solar
works for me
exotic crane
jovial juniper
Most likely Kinetic Flayer and Zap Staff
exotic crane
use streamable
it works if I use a link to streamable, like you said
but hecking christ, why not otherwise
garbage software
compact cargo
no incentive to improve it
compact cargo
but you can watch the clip I sent, right?
because I can only hear the audio and ...
I can see it
golden moon
i saw some psykers with like this crystal weapon thing how do i get that
tacit stump
i saw some psykers with like this crystal weapon thing how do i get that
assail blitz right side of the tree
golden moon
assail blitz right side of the tree
cheers
outer dune
what are the best curio perks?
wintry vortex
Ordo dockets <:uwugryn:1062882479310110720>
this
nocturne dust
Ordo dockets <:uwugryn:1062882479310110720>
nocturne dust
what are the best curio perks?
For Psyker, gunner res, sniper res, and toughness regen speed
thorn cedar
me with my 25,000,000 ordos
prime elk
Could always use more
thorn cedar
i factually cannot
nocturne dust
although if you want to solo toughness regen speed ain't it, lol
prime elk
i factually cannot
Spend more, then get back to the grind
ashen trellis
does gunner res also apply to small shooter enemies?
nocturne dust
no
Gunner stun is just dumb
and Psyker toughness gets deleted the moment you forget to slide so
bad things happen without gunner res
prime elk
Yeah would say at least 1x sniper and gunner resist is important
quartz barn
sniper res isnt needed imo
quartz barn
only time you're gonna get hit by snipers is when there's multiple or when you're going for a res
with the person getting revived being the one who got sniped before xd
thorn cedar
i did some numbers for fun last night, and have decided that the optimal smite is just shy of three seconds
((40×3)×2.65)+(20×3) = 378 damage
enough to kill groaners, poxwalkers, and scab shooters (if theyre bunched its a good opportunity) and nothing else
but thats more than plenty
40 = base dps
20 is the cast-off damage when you let it go
the x3 is just EP
2.65s
hollow jolt
Fatshark: "Spawn the mauler overhead at 2.64s"
nocturne dust
only time you're gonna get hit by snipers is when there's multiple or when you'r...
Or in any normal auric where the game decides to throw literally everything at you all at once
broken carbon
Or in any normal auric where the game decides to throw literally everything at y...
just dodge
:3
nocturne dust
just dodge
The sniper being silent:
broken carbon
honestly i almost never get hit by snipers
the only
ONLY time
in recent memory
was this
nocturne dust
The sniper having their laser pointing at someone else but firing at me anyway:
broken carbon
which this is the first time ive seen happen i think ever
nocturne dust
I mean, sure, getting hit by snipers is rare
but what other perk is going on the curio? Dockets?
broken carbon
i think i have dockets on mine lmfoa
i have 3 toughness
with 3x toughness, 3x hp, 2x gunner res
prime elk
i think i have dockets on mine lmfoa
Based
broken carbon
and 1 dockets
broken carbon
insanity posting once again
thorn cedar
what
prime elk
and 1 dockets
Oh nvm only 1x dockets
nocturne dust
The toughness subperk
thorn cedar
still what
nocturne dust
Look, you want to hit max toughness as quickly as possible on Psyker
thorn cedar
im 3x toughness with
3x tough
3x sprint
3x block
but if you know me this is unsurprising
nocturne dust
Coherency regen is an import-
nocturne dust
im 3x toughness with
3x tough
3x sprint
3x block
but if you know me this is unsu...
what
On Psyker???
broken carbon
im 3x toughness with
3x tough
3x sprint
3x block
but if you know me this is unsu...
sprint and block is goofy
clear heath
wtf block eff on psyker
thorn cedar
ye
broken carbon
u guys would hate @fresh reef's psyker
wispy bay
I run block eff on my psyker, too.
hollow jolt
I can only see BE being remotely useful with a Kinetic Deflector forcesword
nocturne dust
even then
Like, KD works with ER, and 1 single stamina curio will give you effectively infinite blocking
thorn cedar
but then i wouldnt have 175 toughness
thorn cedar
yes
late sapphire
Idk deadvoid
thorn cedar
with my 175 toughness
nocturne dust
with my 175 toughness
🤮
late sapphire
Instead of kd you can take 3x block eff and then 2 15 toughness nodes
It kinda makes sense
wispy bay
In auric, having block eff is just an ease of mind.
thorn cedar
and i do not play in the backline
prime elk
I don’t run KD or block eff 
wispy bay
Even when you are back line, sometimes there are dozen of ragers spawn behind you.
I use force sword, so it gives me some peace of mind to push them away.
nocturne dust
The issue with maxxing toughness is ER and it not interacting with coherency regen, which is why I think toughness regen speed is a very, very good perk for Psykers rn.
Coherency regen doesn't scale with toughness
prime elk
I run ER with and without toughness regen and honestly don’t mind running no toughness regen or just 1x
wispy bay
Me spamming force sword special to self regen.
nocturne dust
cbf with er
This explains a lot
clear heath
The issue with maxxing toughness is ER and it not interacting with coherency reg...
Are you sure ER doesn't affect coherency regen?
thorn cedar
but its fucken stinky rn
late sapphire
Coherency regen doesn't scale with toughness
Which is why its a terrible perk
nocturne dust
i think it deserves a better deal
Possibly the strongest talent in the tree needs a better deal?
clear heath
Is this something that's been tested?
nocturne dust
Are you sure ER doesn't affect coherency regen?
I tested it after Kuki's steam guide mentioned it. They were correct.
clear heath
if you've recorded something showing it, contact pygex about it
cobalt forge
Maxed out my Psyker too
Now for the Zealot
nocturne dust
Which is why its a terrible perk
It's a great perk though. It does so much, it doesn't even need to scale, lol.
clear heath
cause pygex says all toughness gains
nocturne dust
if you've recorded something showing it, contact pygex about it
😭 You really gonna make me record?
late sapphire
It's a great perk though. It does so much, it doesn't even need to scale, lol.
Imagine if it was 30/s at 200 tuffness...
nocturne dust
cause pygex says all toughness gains
Toughness blessings also aren't affected
clear heath
wtf
nocturne dust
Pygex is wrong on two accounts there, lol
nocturne dust
ER was always on the menu
young summit
Apparently it was
nocturne dust
Even if it was all gains, ER too delicious to pass up
young summit
I'm 4 games away from finishing all Vet penances
hollow jolt
I mean even if it was "-30% for all sources" it'd still be insanely good
young summit
I'll try it out when I'm grinding out my last Psyker ones
quartz barn
Or in any normal auric where the game decides to throw literally everything at y...
but thats any auric
young summit
I feel like snipers are very manageable overall
jovial juniper
Even if it was all gains, ER too delicious to pass up
Doesn't help that pots is a dead talent
quartz barn
and tbh if you mostly play auric you'll be used to that anyway
i mean having 12 bursters spawn from a door is normal lmao
hollow jolt
the only real issue I have with snipers is they like to camp the weirdest places lol
young summit
As is their right
hollow jolt
trying to fight a horde and a sniper shot at me from below me lol
young summit
Watching the laser pop onto the back of the knife zealot is a delicious feeling
thorn cedar
yea some snipers are playing rainbow 6 siege
holding an angle through a floorboard eight stories up
young summit
NASTY angles
hollow jolt
yeah I had to run away several times because snipers were just camping so hard
assail "only" has 10 shards :c
nocturne dust
yea some snipers are playing rainbow 6 siege
sniper on the train 90 meters away poking their laser through the craziest architecture and cover:
thorn cedar
mfw im slayin in baross but im stayin in the hourglass
nocturne dust
They should really remove the range limit on EK. Let the special hunting staff hunt the special.
young summit
I'm the sniper now
thorn cedar
ok maybe not no limit but
dense valley
They should really remove the range limit on EK. Let the special hunting staff h...
cmon man that thing is busted as it ia
nocturne dust
cmon man that thing is busted as it ia
And?
They buffed plasma, they can buff EK.
lol
young summit
Fuck it, buff the dueling sword next
dense valley
lol
nocturne dust
Slaughterer dueling sword?
young summit
Can DS even proc slaughter reliably
nocturne dust
Even if it couldn't cleave, I believe someone mentioned something about push activating it?
Idk, I'm not that familiar with rampage.
young summit
This game has such weird interactions I swear
spice veldt
push-attack can activate it more reliably since it has more cleave than lights
lights can always activate it against poxwalkers/groaners
spice veldt
simply spend hours staring at the darktide calculator
patent mango
Slaughterer dueling sword? <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
slaughterer headtaker ds
jovial juniper
Decimator DS when
nocturne dust
slaughterer headtaker ds
Okay hear me out: all of vet's bonuses, but as a blessing and only for dueling sword on Psyker
nocturne dust
Every melee should get a "If Meleeker, +100% movespeed" blessing
patent mango
thats true and real
new way to make meleeker good dropped
just give all psyker melee weapons a blessing to make it do warp damage, cost peril to attack and do a lot more damage
tawny ermine
can anyone help me with the cliffhanger penance :0 ?
nocturne dust
just give all psyker melee weapons a blessing to make it do warp damage, cost pe...
Damage is neat and all but I want Meleeker to be the build that moves at... 😏 😎 Warp speed.
patent mango
attack speed + movement speed blessing
fathom adder
Damage is neat and all but I want Meleeker to be the build that moves at... 😏 �...
I remember Warp Speed and similar from Dark Heresy and Black Crusade. How to make your soyker BTFO everyone else in melee (and also do everything faster)
patent mango
new psyker subclass with warp speed ability and iron arm keystone
then life leech blitz which gives you temp health 🔥
white quest
cant wait to try out my new toy in auric damnation
dense valley
cant wait to try out my new toy in auric damnation
damn this gun do damage ?
white quest
nope
dense valley
lol
prime elk
cant wait to try out my new toy in auric damnation
This is when I start taking all the ammo and make sure you don’t get anything
white quest
can take out trappers and bombers in a pinch, but you mostly use it to get your toughness back through crit talent synergy and inspiring barrage. and it can knock maulers and ragers back
obviously you need a way to handle hordes and carapace if using it
white quest
This is when I start taking all the ammo and make sure you don’t get anything
honestly it's a very ammo efficient weapon. I leave most of the ammo pickups for my team.
dense valley
damn psyker should have some shit like pulling ammo from the warp in the scrier branch
jovial juniper
cant wait to try out my new toy in auric damnation
Pocket sand build
white quest
trying it out with ammo at 41% to lower the % needed to increase crit chance and toughness regen
jovial juniper
damn psyker should have some shit like pulling ammo from the warp in the scrier ...
Oh that's Assail
There's Assail on my Scrier's branch
fish.png
prime elk
honestly it's a very ammo efficient weapon. I leave most of the ammo pickups for...
Ok as long as you’re not one of those SAP users that spend all game shooting and end up with 100k ranged damage
white quest
Ok as long as you’re not one of those SAP users that spend all game shooting and...
nah chainaxe for specials, assail for ranged/hordes
crimson wigeon
EVERYTIME I TRY TO DO CLIFFHANGER SOME BRAINDEAD LEVEL FOUR COMES AND KILLS THE ENEMIES IM TRAINING
RAAAAH
crimson wigeon
cliff hanger gotta be top 10 worst penance in the game
white quest
oh, yeah it used to be way worse iirc
one of those penances you're better off doing in damnation
I"m still wondering what the strat is for "knock enemies into the fan in the goatse map"
picturing a group gathering a mob of enemies beside it, and a sacrificial ogryn charging through them into the fan to knock them in
molten saddle
God damn bb so needs a buff😭
thorn cedar
still dont have that one lmao
white quest
bb is great. great travel node to psykinetics aura.
rich spindle
I like shredder auto pistol. Knocking rager packs on their ass is fun
nocturne dust
bb is great. great travel node to psykinetics aura.
It's no +5% crit chance
marble crater
EVERYTIME I TRY TO DO CLIFFHANGER SOME BRAINDEAD LEVEL FOUR COMES AND KILLS THE ...
Try it on the train Assassination map https://youtu.be/SiZp4X8YQww
nocturne dust
Try it on the train Assassination map https://youtu.be/SiZp4X8YQww
That's actually a weird spot to try it on
rich spindle
the problem with BB is that it sucks without upgrades
You have to embrace the suck and use it on awkward specialists behind cover
white quest
I think I got it on metalfab
wispy bay
I got cliffhanger last week.
nocturne dust
The recommendations I see are the pipe at the end of Hab Dreyko or the walkway to the left at the start of Chasm Logistratum.
I did it on the walkway.
white quest
or uhhh, that map with the end event with the four bridges
spice veldt
vigil station oblivium
marble crater
That's actually a weird spot to try it on
It is, but that's the spot where I got it first try thanks to the video, without having to rely on teammates
spice veldt
that's where i got mines as well
wispy bay
At the end of a map, there are enemy spawn with no fence, I pushed more than a dozen down with vent and force sword.
modest perch
I"m still wondering what the strat is for "knock enemies into the fan in the goa...
Zealot book
white quest
mmm yeah.
spice veldt
refinery delta is another one perhaps
wispy bay
The tree purging map is super easy to get it due to the amount of enemies spawning at the end.
nocturne dust
That's Hab Dreyko
white quest
i wouldnt fuck with penances in the extraction phase of hab dreyko
hollow jolt
You have to embrace the suck and use it on awkward specialists behind cover
I just pathed for assail instead, I can live without psykinetic aura
nocturne dust
Yeah, the issue with Hab Dreyko is while it is a really good spot, it's also at the very end of the mission.
white quest
very easy for groups to fall apart there.
wispy bay
I got it from one of the hourglass map.
nocturne dust
which is why I did it on Chasm Logistratum at the beginning and literally jumped off the map in celebration
wispy bay
Enemy spawn in front of the elevator, next to a non fenced section of walkway
zinc phoenix
I’m going to do some slumming with the peasants in malice for the flawless execution penance
This should be interesting
And ofc I’m going to do it with warp unbound for the extra thrill
wispy bay
The 15 games one?
white quest
i was running sedition for martyr skulls last month, felt kinda bad for killing everything.
wispy bay
Playing on sedition, you can Fus Ro Dah the whole map.
hollow jolt
i was running sedition for martyr skulls last month, felt kinda bad for killing ...
lvl 600 player with meta build drops into a Sedition UwU
white quest
people are pretty chill at that difficulty. most people were down to help with two-person puzzles. was neat.
hollow jolt
to be fair, at that difficulty 100 plasteel is a lot
so might as well do it
also its neat
white quest
yeah idk if most sedition players know what a martyr skull is though
hollow jolt
they don't
but its neat to see puzzles and do them
they might also be Vermintide players and get the clue of what's going on
white quest
mmm
wispy bay
They don't know, hence they want to help.
hollow jolt
yeah its a shame you only get plasteel if its someone's first time
so most people just ignore them by this point
white quest
I love how the value of plasteel just plummeted a week after unlocked and loaded.
I have zero use for it anymore
and then a resource event immediately afterwards. "Oh yay, diamantine."
hollow jolt
lol yeah its still good to get but its no longer "the only resource that matters"
fathom adder
I thought dockets or diamantine were the bottlenecks previously
hollow jolt
previously not even close
fathom adder
Plasteel I mean
hollow jolt
you can get like 70k dockets from an Auric + curios
hollow jolt
Plasteel I mean
oh yeah plasteel back then yeah
fathom adder
I want to say it was Plasteel before Brunt's, then Dockets before Auric, then back to Plasteel, and now idk. Got a giant pile of all resources when the crafting update hit, then doubled it when I finally sold all the crap in my inventories
hollow jolt
same I'm just sitting on a dragon's horde of mats
but I already made my best gear before unlocked and loaded
white quest
it was always dockets and plasteel for me
hollow jolt
tbh my limiting factor before Unlocked and Loaded was my patience lol
gilded jackal
Brain Buster is low dps, right? I shouldn't be using it if I can reach with my charged staff attacks?
hollow jolt
fucking Brunt AND Hadron RNG? I quit XCOM for a reason
white quest
Brain Buster is low dps, right? I shouldn't be using it if I can reach with my c...
okay so you can charge brain burst before entering an area where you think an elite is going to spawn to get some early damage in. Or you can lock onto a sniper for example, then hide behind a corner if you need to stay in cover.
fathom adder
I had basically settled on "good enough" and had all but disengaged from the crafting system entirely, long before Unlocked & Loaded. The experience of trying to make "good enough" ogryn shovel and Mk15 Evis when that patch came out (even when I was already sitting on enough resources that I didnt have to grind more) had just completely killed my interest in a system I already despised before. Thinking "am I gonna have to do this every time a new weapon comes out?" and imagining if I actually ran out in some future patch and had to grind more.
nocturne dust
Brain Buster is low dps, right? I shouldn't be using it if I can reach with my c...
You shouldn't be using it if you can reach it with lmb or rmb
white quest
you can also brain burst while spring sliding, but that's a bit advanced
gilded jackal
Alright, then it's how I thought it was. Thanks.
Attacking the big slugs in the back with pyro staff will crit the same way it does for guns, right?
zinc phoenix
The 15 games one?
yeah no downs in 15 and also i'd like to pick up the no health damage
hollow jolt
I had basically settled on "good enough" and had all but disengaged from the cra...
agreed, its why I was a Psword main since release
white quest
BB is also useful on any annoying enemy that's hard to chase. dogs in some situations, running trappers, bombers
hollow jolt
I just bought only the meta weapons because why would I experiment when it took so much resources?
zinc phoenix
BB is also useful on any annoying enemy that's hard to chase. dogs in some situa...
imo this is the only real use for bb
hollow jolt
my brother was purg + Deimos user for like 15 months because why would he change? lol
zinc phoenix
my brother was purg + Deimos user for like 15 months because why would he change...
well number one it is beyond boring
gilded jackal
I only just bought the game a few days ago and the itemization feels surprisingly un-intrusive, but I'm guessing that's after some big rework to make it less shit?
white quest
its pretty niche yeah. Sometimes I like running it with kinetic flayer for fun and rarely end up casting it.
zinc phoenix
honestly i enjoy the near loss or loss more
hollow jolt
I only just bought the game a few days ago and the itemization feels surprisingl...
it was dogshit before hand
zinc phoenix
because everything goes absolutely wild and i get to really go hard
hollow jolt
its like 100x easier and cheaper to make good weapons now
zinc phoenix
if its an easy win i get very bored
gilded jackal
I fucking hate loot managing so I'm glad they made it bearable before I bought the game
hollow jolt
if its an easy win i get very bored
"its an easy win because I made it easy"
white quest
yeah the old item system meant running resources through 2 slot machines and hoping you got a jackpot twice to get what you wanted.
hollow jolt
that's what we built our chars for
zinc phoenix
"its an easy win because I made it easy"
purgatus was bad for most of those 15 months tho
like objectively bad
it only got really good after the last patch
and even today there are better builds
its also -- and i cannot stress this enough -- by far the most boring staff
hollow jolt
purgatus was bad for most of those 15 months tho
honestly it seems like immense skill issue from nmost psykers
zinc phoenix
🤷♀️
nocturne dust
its also -- and i cannot stress this enough -- by far the most boring staff
Spoken like someone who needs the Emperor's cleansing flame
hollow jolt
its the easiest staff to use how could they fuck it up? Then I see Auric psykers use the purg staff
now I know why it has a bad rep
zinc phoenix
its the easiest staff to use how could they fuck it up? Then I see Auric psykers...
well in fairness i routinely see psykers in mael who use shield, smite and purgatus
white quest
purgatus is fine. most of the weapons are. biggest issue with purg is blinding your teammates
zinc phoenix
which is a build that just sucks lol
hollow jolt
purgatus is fine. most of the weapons are. biggest issue with purg is blinding y...
it used to be brighter at release
I miss it
nocturne dust
I don't think purg was bad, but it wasn't that good either before Blaze Away and such.
white quest
remember seizure smite?
nocturne dust
purgatus is fine. most of the weapons are. biggest issue with purg is blinding y...
Turn off bloom
hollow jolt
which is a build that just sucks lol
god yeah, people just use "build guides" it seems
nocturne dust
zinc phoenix
god yeah, people just use "build guides" it seems
i like the build editor for sharing stuff but the stuff people post holy god
hollow jolt
I saw a zealot with a DS4 build not going for heavies and weakspots lol
nocturne dust
i like the build editor for sharing stuff but the stuff people post holy god
It turns out the public can be very wrong
hollow jolt
It turns out the public can be very wrong
to be fair, most players ignore the important info like the attack orders lol
white quest
game can be complicated. pretty easy to get overwhelmed esp early on.
nocturne dust
to be fair, most players ignore the important info like the attack orders lol
I do too
hollow jolt
I remember a Vet telling me Psword was bad vs bosses
turns out they didn't know about the push attack lol
hollow jolt
I do too <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
:c
nocturne dust
If enemy -> light
If enemy -> heavy
The extent of my combos
gilded jackal
turns out they didn't know about the push attack lol
what's special about it?
ripe bear
why is obscurus bad?
white quest
im guessing the psword push attack is a jab
prime elk
what's special about it?
Mk6 has insane damage on push attack
hollow jolt
what's special about it?
extremely high burst damage
one of the reasons why I think the DS is bad on Vet is because we already have the Psword
white quest
never got the hang of psword. the chargeup leaves me feeling really vulnerable.
hollow jolt
Tbf DS also has insane mobility
hardly necessary with Psword's output imo
hollow jolt
never got the hang of psword. the chargeup leaves me feeling really vulnerable.
Animation cancel the charge
it also cuts the charging slow down
flint marsh
that staff seems pretty strong, but does it simply replaces the ranged slot for a stronger smite?
hollow jolt
that staff seems pretty strong, but does it simply replaces the ranged slot for ...
far higher damage output
"what if smite actually did damage" basically
flint marsh
but does it also increase peril when using it?
hollow jolt
yes
flint marsh
I see
hollow jolt
would be a bit op if it didn't :p
flint marsh
I wasnt sure from the clip as some lightning came from his hand aswell
white quest
Animation cancel the charge
Yeah i'm seeing good damage from it. It's still a bit too slow if you have 6 crushers barrelling at you imo.
hollow jolt
I wasnt sure from the clip as some lightning came from his hand aswell
a lot of psyker animations do that
ripe bear
why is obscurus bad?
hollow jolt
Yeah i'm seeing good damage from it. It's still a bit too slow if you have 6 cru...
that's why you just do it again
white quest
either way I can see how it fills the same niche
hollow jolt
why is obscurus bad?
because its just budget Deimos in practice
mental rock
Obscurus is bad because other weapons do everything it does better
hollow jolt
Obscurus got some changes to its stats to make it not "objectively inferior to Deimos" but at the end of the day. Its been power creeped
white quest
yeah what was the niche for obscurus anyway? generic force sword?
ripe bear
what are dump stat for deimos
hollow jolt
yeah what was the niche for obscurus anyway? generic force sword?
it was unlocked earlier than Deimos
so you used it until you got Deimos
flint marsh
Does using that zaping staff also counts for the penance "Charged with Purpose"? Also what staff type/mark is that?
nocturne dust
yeah what was the niche for obscurus anyway? generic force sword?
original force sword iirc
mental rock
The niche was it used to be the only force sword lul
hollow jolt
what are dump stat for deimos
I personally dumped Warp Resist
dump warp resist was so I could quell more peril for toughness
ashen trellis
can u oneshot mutants with ds mk4 without the +25% against maniacs?
mental rock
If you have thrust or precog up probably
compact cargo
can u oneshot mutants with ds mk4 without the +25% against maniacs?
With 60% peril (and corresponding perk)
Or 4 stacks of slaughterer
Or thrust 2 stacks
Or precog
Or crit
Technically we can kill mutants with 3 staff alt fires
Which will never not be funny but lmao
white quest
can u oneshot mutants with ds mk4 without the +25% against maniacs?
here's what I got with a very thrown together setup.
you can one shot them if you crit while at high stacks of scryers, at least
but I'd probably just play it safe and take maniac damage.
zinc phoenix
one of the reasons why I think the DS is bad on Vet is because we already have t...
more important it looks stupid
ashen trellis
I see, thanks
young summit
If only we had Janissary drip for vets
white quest
dunno, thrusting swords are pretty cool. I hope we get a non-curved rapier variant one day.
fathom adder
Would also be nice to get a plain/utilitarian/non-fancy dueling sword skin
white quest
Would also be nice to get a plain/utilitarian/non-fancy dueling sword skin
a bilbo in darktide would be cute and hilarious.
fathom adder
a bilbo in darktide would be cute and hilarious.
Still too fancy by half, I want my vet's dueling sword to resemble a skinny dclaw
white quest
fair.
my understanding is that bilbo rapiers were the 16th century spanish equivalent of bringing pepper spray with you while travelling.
its just a lil "fuck off" stick
ashen trellis
so I'm mostly running gunker build with telekine/assail/dd and can easily get out of most situations auric throws but 2+ bulwarks in a mixed horde are the bane of my existence unless a teammate helps out, any tips?
white quest
bulwarks are slow
so I'd focus everything except the bulwark while avoiding its highly telegraphed attacks
ashen trellis
yea that's what I do, but some maps make that really hard
specifically talking about mixed horde pretty much, on their own they're easy to deal with
white quest
what weapons are you running
zinc phoenix
its just a lil "fuck off" stick
Fuck off stick with a glow up
ashen trellis
what weapons are you running
recon lasgun mk12 with infernus and dumdum
zinc phoenix
have you tried voidstrike?
ashen trellis
and that kinda shreds them when you can get in position
zinc phoenix
simply delete the mixed horde
like idk, you could use the vet weapon or you could use the staff whose purpose is to delete mixed hordes with incredible efficiency
white quest
okay so I don't know that weapon well at all. I think the best thing to focus on is trying to avoid getting into a situation where you can't kite them
ashen trellis
I use surge occasionally when playing staff psyker, was wondering about my gunker build since that's what I find most fun to play
zinc phoenix
With gunker vs bulwark you’re gonna have to melee it
ashen trellis
okay so I don't know that weapon well at all. I think the best thing to focus on...
yeah was just wondering if there's some other way to play that out, thanks tho
zinc phoenix
Delete the horde around it with the recon las then wait for it to try to pop you before stabbing it in the head
white quest
how's the recon mk12 against bulwarks anyway? assuming you're shooting skin
ashen trellis
how's the recon mk12 against bulwarks anyway? assuming you're shooting skin
not too good but infernus helps out a lot
but that's without SG, since I play telekine mostly
white quest
if you run telekine wall the stagger could help?
ashen trellis
yeah I was thinking of running the 2 charge one to see how it goes
they should've made illisi charged attack go through that shield tbh
zinc phoenix
if you run telekine wall the stagger could help?
no
zinc phoenix
yeah I was thinking of running the 2 charge one to see how it goes
it has a 10% chance which is terrible
running shield instead of SG with gunker is 🤯
that is just not a good idea
white quest
okay what enemies count as specialists, actually
ashen trellis
okay what enemies count as specialists, actually
I thought all the enemies that pop up on killfeed are elites??
spice veldt
specialists are dogs, flamers, trappers, etc.
white quest
specialists are a particular type
ashen trellis
that is just not a good idea
it's genuinely very solid
spice veldt
they're all in one group in the psykhanium
elites are the enemies that pre-spawn in patrols and show up on killfeeds
maulers, ragers, shotgunners, etc.
white quest
yeah I was wrong, telekine shield wouldn't stagger them. could /maybe/ break up the density of the horde a bit, but not as well as I thought.
like idk, I guess positioning, throw out assail to thin the horde while dodging backwards, shoot ragers and maulers, then deal with the bulwarks.
ashen trellis
yeah seems like there's no easier way
white quest
no clue how the recon mk 12 handles mauler body flak armor, but definitely don't shoot them in the head.
upper sun
@nocturne dust true duo end event
nocturne dust
upper sun
what melee did you have?
nocturne dust
knoife
upper sun
yeah knife and pick arent great at voidshield
upper sun
but i could do good damage once it was down
nocturne dust
It's why I was blasting him with Voidstrike while trying to keep bleed up. I didn't really have anything for shield, lol.
nocturne dust
also we got lucky not too many disablers spawned
upper sun
one more
nocturne dust
We had like 10 trappers and 5 snipers during that
upper sun
yeah u got them tho
nocturne dust
yeh
upper sun
im glad you got assail
zinc phoenix
it's genuinely very solid
It’s not but you can do what makes you happy
upper sun
wait board refresh or?
nocturne dust
up to you
ornate hamlet
Helo newbie psyker here, does anyone have any staple builds so I can understand on how this class works ?
nocturne dust
Helo newbie psyker here, does anyone have any staple builds so I can understand ...
check pins for the guide
It's not perfect but it's pretty informative
white quest
just don't rely heavily on smite if you want to improve
ornate hamlet
Thanks people!
zinc phoenix
There i put together a build for each of the staves that I can just link
You can swap a few things and obviously shock maul is because I like it 😂 but they’re broadly meta and work pretty well
upper sun
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
nocturne dust
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nocturne dust
Lol, I was mostly fine, just a bit of stuttering. Until the stuttering hit me right as I was trying to push a poxburster and block a hit from a walker 😭
nocturne dust
oof
upper sun
since i stream the game any changes in speed/ping reduce the quality
upper sun
no i stream the game from the cloud
nocturne dust
no i stream the game from the cloud
nocturne dust
lol, anyway, ggs, I'ma go rest or think about resting but not actually do it
upper sun
ye im gonna eat ggs
white quest
/decent/ stats with shredder pistol in high intensity stg auric damnation.
strong gulch
I read "im gonna eat eggs"
white quest
not excelling but also not throwing.
upper sun
I read "im gonna eat eggs" <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
egg good
strong gulch
🥚
radiant frigate
E G G
crimson wigeon
I did a level one mission with all high level players and told them I was trying to do a penance which they acknowledged then some rat named syn still killed every fucking pox Walker I was training
analog agate
Some people are just assholes
cyan portal
can the inferno staff hit weakspots? any point aiming for heads?
nope
Easy to test, hop in psykanium. atk into something's head. See if the double line crosshair weakspot indicator shows.
crimson wigeon
I feel like the first staff you get the one with the AOE thing the void sumthing I feel like that one's the best one
cyan portal
I feel like the first staff you get the one with the AOE thing the void sumthing...
The best staff is whichever one you enjoy enough to get good with. All 4 are capable of insanity in the right hands.
analog agate
The best staff is whichever one you enjoy enough to get good with. All 4 are cap...
This statement is finally, mostly true.
faint nebula
Hey guys, I've been playing with Infero Staff, Force Sword and Brain Burst/Venting Shriek. I have tried swapping to using Assail and honestly I just don't feel like it's very effective (but see so many others excell with it). Any guides somewhere on how to get better using this skill?
Just feel more substantial using Venting then bursting every elite in range...
ashen trellis
Hey guys, I've been playing with Infero Staff, Force Sword and Brain Burst/Venti...
it's very good when you weave it between your melee attacks
analog agate
You would be using assail to take out shotgunner/shooter packs and then rmb assail to mimic brain rupture
ashen trellis
for hordes that is, you can also snipe gunners and other ranged from afar
strong gulch
Hey guys, I've been playing with Infero Staff, Force Sword and Brain Burst/Venti...
Are you doing assail purg / inferno because you like it or want to?
faint nebula
Honestly I find Burst/Shriek/Inferno to be my favourite way to play, but given the fact I get absolutely bodied in Damnation by hordes I thought I'd try something different but it just felt worse (tried in Malice before going harder).