psyker-class

[late sapphire]

Scab melee mael is up!

quell speed goes +11% to +40% warp res goes 14.5 cost to 13.5 cost...

[steep estuary]

No shot, that's it?

Time to look for a few new staves

I wanna see how it all feels

[strong gulch]

There is still a noticeable difference between low and high warp resist. If you're trying to spam shriek and have 80 peril + ER, those work against each other.

For general building, warp resist is the dump. Voidstrike can also dump WR, but blast radius is right there.

Of course meta doesn't take into account your preferences.

[steep estuary]

Oh yeah, I dumped blast radius on my voidstrike. Not perfect though, its like 62 and I think it was quell at 78.

I let quell speed sit at 60 on the rest though

[strong gulch]

Meta aside, if you like quell speed dumped then that's fine as long as you can get through missions.

[cloud orchid]

Hi guys, a question: Can Inferno Force Staff's soulfire DoT effect trigger Kinetic Flayer?

[austere warren]

Blast radius dump on voidstrike is a scam far as I'm concerned.

[late sapphire]

Soulblaze no, the flame particles can though

[austere warren]

It should yeah. I know it procs during a gout of flame.

[cloud orchid]

Sorry I should have been more clear, can the primary and secondary attack of the staff trigger it?

[late sapphire]

Yes

[austere warren]

Yeah it can.

[cloud orchid]

Thanks, much appreciated

[austere warren]

BBQ them. Fiyor

[late sapphire]

idk why you always have to run here to share the least well thought out opinions possible

[radiant frigate]

blast radius is a dump because then i will have high warp resist

yeugh

unacceptable

or rather, blast radius dump is a scam

I am not proficient in wordspeak.

[compact cargo]

lies spread by zealots as usual

[digital hill]

The warp is a friend to all, even kats and elves who are kats and kats that are three elves in disguise.

[strong gulch]

Direct damage from inferno can. Bleed and soulblaze dots don't proc KF. Burn dot from infernus does tho.

[compact cargo]

Ok hear me out

Give fire shotgun to psyker

[jovial juniper]

It's there already

We got slugs

Bucko

Fire

And Double Barrel

[strong gulch]

11 bosses. Thanks horrors modifier.

Wait. I can't count. 13 bosses.

[plucky flax]

320k Pogchimp

PogApe

PogOrangutan!!

[strong gulch]

Also yay for dyeing a lot lol.

[plucky flax]

Surprised the vet and zealot didn't take bolter.

[strong gulch]

Vet was trying something new. IDK about the zealot.

[marble crater]

Is Bolter better now?

[gilded jackal]

How do you get a scoreboard like that? a mod?

[marble crater]

Yes it's a mod

[strong gulch]

From what I hear, it's good. IDK about the details tho.

[marble crater]

[strong gulch]

It's a mod with overproof plugin. Ovenproof is more accurate than OG scoreboard. Here are all of the scoreboard mods that I use.

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/22
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/241
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/113

[sturdy reef]

gotta make use out of those beast of nurgle slime trails somehow lol

[gilded jackal]

Thanks

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/jhope-arson-jhope-arson-fire-bora-fire-gif-26207734

Purple

[sturdy reef]

where is Nurgle's Purple Nurple boss

smh

maybe that should be a new psyker blitz, probably would be better than brain rupture

[patent mango]

gimme a blitz to put ice on the floor so i can slide nonstop

[gilded jackal]

give me a Testicular Torsion Blitz

[wind spruce]

I love how many spawn on that modifier

Also 320k/560k boss damage is nuts

[strong gulch]

Walk a few steps and get a slug. 💀

Laspistol with infurnus boss dps is a lot. I didn't even weakspot most of the time.

I was completely out of ammo at the end of the map.

[nocturne dust]

I've seen some vets able to get stupid amounts of damage out of it

Out-damaging Psykers by virtue of just how quickly they can unload into a group and kill them all before staffker or gunker can do its thing.

[patent mango]

just gotta give psyker bolter

it'd be funny

[nocturne dust]

What do you think Ballburst is?

[steep estuary]

Yee, I typically run shriek so I can shave off a good amount if I need it, or have a panic button if I screw up for some reason.

[nocturne dust]

Shriek is meta.

[marble crater]

Well that doesn't seem fair

[prime elk]

Bit late but it’s very good now

[torn palm]

what blessings do you want for illisi force sword?

[nocturne dust]

Well, Vet has always been Vet.

[nocturne dust]

Uncanny, Slaughterer

Or Slaughterer, Deflector if you really like Deflector

[marble crater]

Time to try Bolter then I guess

[radiant lance]

Voidstrike blessings? Surge and which one? Nexus or Flurry?

[prime elk]

Mag dumping isn’t sustainable in most matches anyways

You can do a shit ton of damage as a good bolter vet but in general psyker is the better “dps”

[marble crater]

I just need to be lucky and get a match with 3 staff psykers

[prime elk]

This is the way

[marble crater]

I vote Nexus Surge

[torn palm]

what blessings for lightning and fire staff? fire is flurry and what else? and lightning is nexus and what else?

also quell speed is the trash stat, correct?

[verbal thistle]

warp res is the dump

[marble crater]

Fire Nexus and Blaze Away/Flurry
Lightning is Nexus and Flurry

But Flurry on lightning is bugged, which is sad

[lofty marsh]

With proper timing, Blaze Away/Penetration Flames is better

You can time secondary actions to keep blaze away active permenantly

(until you need to quell)

[mellow stone]

is the inferno staff good compared to other staffs?

[lofty marsh]

Very

[prime elk]

It’s stupidly good now

[lofty marsh]

I would argue that it's the best staff for a generalist playstyle

[mellow stone]

even when compared to the voidstrike staff?

[lofty marsh]

Yes

Voidstike is okay, I'm a little bias against it to be fair

I think it's really boring post smite not headshotting

[mellow stone]

just to make sure, the inferno one is meant for AoE right?

[lofty marsh]

It has infinite cleave, yes

But all of the staves with the exception of Electro are designed for AoE

[mellow stone]

so i should run, lets say, brain burst for single target dmg, right?

[lofty marsh]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d7f6e59-bdb2-4c92-bd1f-45e12b0c7d06/infernoscrier?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

I put together an inferno build a few days ago. Single target damage is going to be heavily dependent on range

long range - BB
mid/close range - Inferno/Dueling sword

don't be afraid to spam the fuck out of Inferno M1, it has insane stagger

Dump stat cleave on the dueling sword, dump stat warp resist on inferno staff

[buoyant maple]

top/2nd highest dmg build for veteran
strong pick for zealot

[buoyant maple]

it's still not as high as the actual highest dmg build in the game

[narrow herald]

Scriers Gaze

[plucky flax]

Always blaze away on burga. I would recommend blaze away nexus.

[lofty marsh]

lmao

Scrier Inferno is insanely good

Give it a shot

[narrow herald]

doesn't take Kinetic
doesn't take Wildfire

[lofty marsh]

Why the fuck would you want wildfire?

[narrow herald]

doesn't take Penetration the soul

[lofty marsh]

doesn't work

PotS literally doesn't function. It's been broken since update, and you spend enough time outside SG that it see's value from ER

[narrow herald]

doesn't take Kinetic

[lofty marsh]

don't need it

[narrow herald]

bruh this build is trash, take the L

[lofty marsh]

you have a ds and pen flames

[snow nymph]

pskyer fianlly makes sense now that im almost level 30

[narrow herald]

Why do u need Empyric Resolve anyways?

[buoyant maple]

That talent is not even working properly

[snow nymph]

fuck em early syker levels are not fun

[narrow herald]

true but why take a node that hinders your ability to edge on purge staff?

[lofty marsh]

because you have warp unbound

[narrow herald]

???????

[lofty marsh]

???????

[buoyant maple]

Less peril = more time in SG = more uptime of that 20% crit chance
That’s my assumption

[nocturne dust]

It's good and helps Inferno stack quickly

[narrow herald]

but why not just take vent and stack immeditatly

why go thru all of the hoops to get dot stacks lmao?

[lofty marsh]

Wildfire can transmit at max, 4 stack of soulblaze

not 4 per enemy

4 total

[nocturne dust]

Puppetmaster over solidity is a choice

[lofty marsh]

usually split 1 1 1 1

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[nocturne dust]

Yes

I am clear on how it works.

[plucky flax]

I did tru duo with wildfire it must be good.

[narrow herald]

wildfire is good wtf

[plucky flax]

[lofty marsh]

Psykinetic aura

[narrow herald]

the fact u take warp battery and essense harvest instead of Kinetic and Wildfire is wild to me

[cloud orchid]

Hi, question about psyker talents. Does Quietude trigger with natural peril degen, or do i have to quell it manually for it to apply?

[nocturne dust]

And?

[lofty marsh]

I have a reason for literally everything here

[lofty marsh]

yes

works with any form of peril degen

[narrow herald]

your reasoning is flawed

[nocturne dust]

Are you taking Psykinetics to be a support? Lol

[narrow herald]

"dont need it" core when u take warp battery

💀

[lofty marsh]

My scoreboards aren't

[lofty marsh]

12% damage

[plucky flax]

Can I see your sick scoreboard damage?

[lofty marsh]

faster reentry into sg

[cloud orchid]

So, letting it decay on its own applies the talent then?

[nocturne dust]

bro takes essence harvest

[narrow herald]

12% damage for how much of the run, you do realize that SG consumes all of your warp charges right?

[nocturne dust]

I mean the build is fine because Blaze Away Purgatus is fine

[narrow herald]

and ur telling me 12% damage for like <10% of the run is more important than wildfire, or Kinetic deflect, or Kentic flayer?

[nocturne dust]

Can literally take any nodes on Blaze Away Purgatus and still do great

[narrow herald]

"dont need kenetic flayer"

[narrow herald]

🤡

[mossy oyster]

dbarrel gunker

[lofty marsh]

In fire reborn fully refills 6 charges on warp siphon almost imediately

[nocturne dust]

Well they don't have to be max meta

[lofty marsh]

nice

[nocturne dust]

Their build is very off-meta but if they like it they can use it

[narrow herald]

nah PG purge is soo cope and baiting i wont let it go

[lofty marsh]

had a match earlier today before I switched to vt2

lemme find the board

[plucky flax]

Would have done more damage with burga I'm sure. Probably was fun though to steal so much ammo

[nocturne dust]

PG purge?

[narrow herald]

SG

[nocturne dust]

ah

[narrow herald]

wait why did they also take Puppet Master

[plucky flax]

Looks like 23 deaths too certainly was a meme run.

[mossy oyster]

with the dbarrel setup i have im playing tug of war with peril

i just call it warp specialist

and I think all those deaths count from the bots and people leaving

[lofty marsh]

PM is for teamwide CDR improvment

[narrow herald]

I had a game going 1 mil on my purge staff, guess I'm right ur wrong, gotem

[lofty marsh]

👍

[narrow herald]

maybe fatshark was right in removing the scoreboard from VT2, people would just hypercope using screenshots

wait, if u are taking ER over Penetration for the peril resist, why didn't u then take Inner Tranquility?

[buoyant maple]

people using scoreboard to "prove" things is already wrong

[lofty marsh]

because ER + Essence harvest results in better toughness uptime than PotS + Inner tranq

[narrow herald]

why do u need the toughness?

[lofty marsh]

only real difference boils down to WHEN you get peril resist

[kindred ivy]

i love smite

[lofty marsh]

Cause I get hit sometimes lmao

why the fuck else?

[narrow herald]

oh but Kinetic deflection "u dont need it"

🤡

nah this guy is a troll

[lofty marsh]

+3 Stam curio

you can block a monster

[plucky flax]

On certain burga build my only toughness regen come from mettle and quietude. Xd

[kindred ivy]

is psyker chat again saying that what has been defined as "meta" is the only viable thing?

[lofty marsh]

Some of it lol

[narrow herald]

ah yes projection towards "meta"

[lofty marsh]

Infernoscrier is perfectly fine, it's no SurgeSurge but it's good

[kindred ivy]

:DX:

[lofty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-spongebob-fancy-nickelodeon-gif-8789131

[kindred ivy]

what is projection towards meta/

mate, literlaly anything works on psyker

[upper sun]

@worn heron

[kindred ivy]

the class is op as fuc

[upper sun]

peak

[kindred ivy]

what psyker wapon is this

i never seen

[thorn cedar]

disagree, the kickback does not work on psyker

[narrow herald]

I'm not talking about meta, Im criticizing the build 💀

[kindred ivy]

i dont evne konw the build

[lofty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[kindred ivy]

what is he running?

[upper sun]

shit wrong channel

[kindred ivy]

no, correct channel

teach us

how to use the kickback

[nocturne dust]

mettle broke 😭

[upper sun]

use warp to empower hands

[plucky flax]

I know I cry everyday.

[kindred ivy]

will try

the fuck is mettle

also how do yall kepe up disrupt desity wiht 4 seconds per charge?

[nocturne dust]

top right node

toughness on crit

[kindred ivy]

oh

:DX:

i dont run crit

at least not as frequent oens

[nocturne dust]

doesn't work properly on purga/trauma tho

[kindred ivy]

but good one

[nocturne dust]

😭

[kindred ivy]

sadge

purga crit would be op tho no?

[nocturne dust]

It would be good.

Op.... eh

[kindred ivy]

tbh purga already strong

no need

[nocturne dust]

Vraks is better at using mettle

[nocturne dust]

true

[kindred ivy]

:DX: smite better

[nocturne dust]

That's the neat part, you don't

[kindred ivy]

i see

[nocturne dust]

You take the duration extension node

[kindred ivy]

i legit feel better runnin no keystone than it

[nocturne dust]

[lofty marsh]

wild

[nocturne dust]

Say syke right now

[kindred ivy]

or beeline towards warpcharges

i think on my gunker

[exotic crane]

it might work... once
then the hands go flying

[kindred ivy]

i dont run any keystone

[lofty marsh]

I can't imagine playing Psyker without ketstones

[nocturne dust]

Disgusting

[lofty marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/947498037704552599/1172166758875025499/sacastare.gif

[kindred ivy]

it works fine

[nocturne dust]

Sure

It can work

[kindred ivy]

fucking teammates takes the blue kills like they KNOW its glowing blue for me

and the other half time i cant see it

[nocturne dust]

Doesn't mean I'm not disappointed in you though

[lofty marsh]

Revolver

assail

[kindred ivy]

🤮 assail

[lofty marsh]

WHAT

[kindred ivy]

shit blitz

[lofty marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-philip-j-fry-drool-drooling-foaming-gif-4920062

[kindred ivy]

u are better off smiting most shit

[nocturne dust]

Eh, only ogryns

[lofty marsh]

The only thing that makes assail not as high tier as BB for me is the fact that you can't have Assail AND Psykinetics aura

[nocturne dust]

and even then, only with EP smite

[kindred ivy]

yeah EP smite, + Shriek Fire

is unsane

insane*

[nocturne dust]

Assail staggers and kills everything human-sized

[kindred ivy]

so does a revovler

:XD;

[lofty marsh]

no ammo cost

tracking

[kindred ivy]

i usually do 1/2 revovler kills on elites.

and then EP smite guarantee

[lofty marsh]

warp damage buff cycles

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes, but you can't bring a revolver and a staff

[kindred ivy]

why would i

i have smite, and revovler

[nocturne dust]

Ew

[kindred ivy]

it does exceptionally well

[nocturne dust]

🤮

EP smite is EP smite, of course it does well

[mossy oyster]

use a real build

[nocturne dust]

and revolver is a good gun

[kindred ivy]

shriek is also pretty nice

so like

it good

my idea is to not run anything taht can generate peril

so i have ALL peril

for smiting

[nocturne dust]

Ew

[kindred ivy]

yes i take all peril reduciton, and siht just to smite longer

[lofty marsh]

What's your melee?

[nocturne dust]

ew

[kindred ivy]

any team does WAYYY better with EP smite.

on it

[nocturne dust]

Sure

[mossy oyster]

mk6 knife

[nocturne dust]

cuz it's EP smite

[kindred ivy]

yeah

[nocturne dust]

It's also super boring

and lame

[kindred ivy]

not really

i find it super fun

[nocturne dust]

[lofty marsh]

What's your answer to a crusher pack?

[kindred ivy]

add in elite killing with revovler.

mine?

pew pew pew revolver on 1

[lofty marsh]

Or is it nut the fuck up with a knife?

[kindred ivy]

smite.

[mossy oyster]

knifing them lol

[lofty marsh]

lmaooo

[mossy oyster]

takes like 3 hits

[lofty marsh]

Nice

[kindred ivy]

smite forever, and ever

[nocturne dust]

Just smite the crushers to death

[remote shadow]

[mossy oyster]

with precog up probably 2 hits

[nocturne dust]

[kindred ivy]

with uhh i think 2 EP smite + shirek

you can kill any elite

including crushers

:XD:

else its just 1 ep smite shriek

[mossy oyster]

on my agri revo gunker I just knife or shoot them depends on the situation

[lofty marsh]

I happen to value my time

[lofty marsh]

^

[kindred ivy]

🤷‍♂️ ur not really smiting the crusher pack. for the crusher killmtho

[nocturne dust]

I happen to enjoy playing the game

[kindred ivy]

u are holding them in place, and clearing the horde

1400. kills at the end of the game 😎

very fun

800k + dmg

its fun

lets my team have fun killing the bosses they like

[lofty marsh]

I'm glad you have fun with that

[mossy oyster]

like in this one I just shit on a crusher in 2 seconds then go murder shit with a knife

[kindred ivy]

i can run traumaforce or purgatus

[next heart]

i like cleaving into a horde with heavy sword, meaty bits everywhere

[kindred ivy]

i fail to see the point of puirgatus with smite in the game in the current state tbh

[lofty marsh]

God I fucking hate trauma staff

[kindred ivy]

trauma staff is nice

[thorn cedar]

maybe i should make another smite video

[kindred ivy]

smtie is awesome

also, one thing all teams ca do without, is zeralot

holy shit

hate em

[next heart]

it does something againt monsters unlike smite

[thorn cedar]

its just hard to dispell so many of the side-myths of smite without making a very drawn out video

[kindred ivy]

tryue

[thorn cedar]

and i dont do editing

[kindred ivy]

but nowadays people will just bring so much boss dmg

it doesnt matter much

[thorn cedar]

took like four hours to pare down my last one from 20mins to 6mins

[kindred ivy]

go have fun annihilating the boss.

[kindred ivy]

what side smiths?

miths

m,sithad

[next heart]

i don't like relying on my teammates sometimes they are worse than me

[thorn cedar]

lmao

are you stan in hiding

[nocturne dust]

This is why I don't make guides and just spend hours and hours explaining to noobs the same thing over and over again

[kindred ivy]

stan?

[mossy oyster]

god i hope not

[kindred ivy]

most of the time, they are incapable of hitting elites.

[mossy oyster]

we do not need more people eating like stan

[thorn cedar]

stan also typos the way you just did, its funny

[kindred ivy]

oh, i am rbazlian

[thorn cedar]

lmao but man what a chore right

[lofty marsh]

this is why I maintain that you NEED an answer for monsters and carapace on every build

[kindred ivy]

and i ahv enot a singel ouce of respect for thias lenguage

[lofty marsh]

even if it's not a great one

[kindred ivy]

wrong

i feel like most of the time the issue is with ragers

and gunners

[lofty marsh]

lose missions to bad teammates then

[kindred ivy]

not crushers

[nocturne dust]

no u

[lofty marsh]

couldn't be me

[thorn cedar]

basically two elite kills + naked non-EP smite is already enough to completely wipe whatever mixed group is in front of you

[kindred ivy]

teammates taht can handle ragers and gunners.

[kindred ivy]

u are gruarantee a EP smite

after a elite kill

so

🤷‍♂️

[thorn cedar]

yea but its like

a hat on a hat

[next heart]

yeah you should always have, at minimum, a plan for: hordes, ragers, carapace, monsters, gunners

doesn't need to be a good plan but at least a plan

[kindred ivy]

👒 🐭

[thorn cedar]

with shriek its like another hat on that hat's hat

[kindred ivy]

true

[kindred ivy]

but i do have revovler

[buoyant maple]

Psyker has the best tools in the game to fight ragers

[thorn cedar]

yea so revolver-ing some shotgunners before smiting is all you need

i do use EP smite btw so dont get me wrong

but i uh

dont use it the way you do

maybe i should make a videoooo ugh the effort though

[remote shadow]

Just cleared Mutated Horrors Damnation Hab Dreyko
My heart's about to give out

First phase of the mission had two Beasts and a Plague Ogryn right off the bat
I DCed twice during the servoskull phase and the second DC got me killed
Final phase was filled with Trappers and Bombers and I had to keep running around like a rat to revive and release teammates while dealing with a Beast of Nurgle
The pipe walkway to extraction was just a wall of bodies all the way down its whole length

Hab Dreyko hasn't scared me ever since I figured out the tree minigame, but that match might give me nightmares

[lofty marsh]

on god, I STILL have never done the tree minigame

[next heart]

Mutated Horrors on Dreyko is so much fun when you get a Beast on the pipe lmao

[lofty marsh]

I'm always my teams best damage in that mission

[kindred ivy]

my build focuses on smiting the most.

[lofty marsh]

so I never have time to do it

[kindred ivy]

the longer i can go wihtout having to do anything but smite

is best

:DX:

[thorn cedar]

i consider three consecutive seconds to be a long smite

[remote shadow]

Side note: if I had a docket for every time I've seen a Monstrosity spawn out of nowhere in front of my eyes, I'd have two dockets, which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice

[kindred ivy]

what the fuck

[lofty marsh]

Fucking hilarious. Once.

[next heart]

thats cursed lol

[kindred ivy]

:DX:

yeah thats so fuckign cursed

lmao

why would u EVER go to the right for smite

[lofty marsh]

it actually does good damage lmao, probably because teammates can't slaughter shit cause it's not moving

[thorn cedar]

if you dont main smite like a primary

[lofty marsh]

11.9 seconds of perm smite

[thorn cedar]

then right is best

[nocturne dust]

Is it sharing bad builds day

[lofty marsh]

yes

[lofty marsh]

THIS is a bad biuild

[thorn cedar]

warp unbound is a big benefit

[nocturne dust]

Here

Bad build

My own creation

[lofty marsh]

pretty

[nocturne dust]

I call it Symmetric Perfection

[lofty marsh]

very symmetic

[next heart]

lol

[thorn cedar]

its not bad enough

but yes it is very symetrical

[nocturne dust]

I was tempted to take it into pubs for memes but people are going to be so angry when they realize the wall doesn't block specials

[nocturne dust]

[lofty marsh]

I think this is the worst I can imagine

[nocturne dust]

Wrong, you took perfect timing

go battle meditation

[lofty marsh]

with no crit boosters

YOU RIGHT

[nocturne dust]

This is the worst build I can think of that goes down the tree

[narrow herald]

im thinking of switching my purge staff WARP NEXUS to PEN

🤔

[nocturne dust]

I do that

[nocturne dust]

Is alright. Off-meta, but more boss damage.

[lofty marsh]

This is the way

[narrow herald]

but without the crit rate im worried about not stacking enough dots fast enough

[nocturne dust]

It still stacks very fast

[worn heron]

Didnt even kill him

[nocturne dust]

I recommend +crit on a perk tho

[worn heron]

NOOB

[narrow herald]

ig i can still take the crit rate perk, but then I wont have room for unyield+cara

[fathom adder]

try psyker for the first time since the new penances
Defy Fate: Maintain 15 stacks or more of Disrupt Destiny for a total of 1800 seconds.
match ended
25/1800
mfw

[narrow herald]

wait do I still take flak then? 🤔

[fluid thistle]

oh shit I love that book

[marble crater]

Hey good news is that you don't have to get them in one mission

[fathom adder]

Only 71 more missions to go

[marble crater]

Use the talent that extends it from 4 to 10 seconds, if you aren't already

[fathom adder]

Was using Perfectionism but I guess I was never actually getting up to 15 stacks to begin with.

The "am I disabled" part was more "how am I actually this bad at getting weak spot kills"

[next heart]

the weakspot perk is still nice to have but the 10s is great because you have little control over getting more stacks

[marble crater]

10 seconds will make it a lot easier, voidstrike, assail and it will go by fast

[mossy oyster]

yea vastly more helpful

[jovial juniper]

Please use L influence

😭

Unless you're a Voidstrike main on a C-I-VI

Unless you're a Voidstrike main*

Or the semi vigilant

[wispy bay]

I know this is not meta, but the Voidstrike with the -peril on weak spot is so fun.

[jovial juniper]

Paired with Exorcist Illisi and crack

(definitely not talking of experience)

[wispy bay]

Full charge RMB onto a horde and you are down to 10 or even 5 % peril per shot

And killing BoN, you can hit its back indefinitely because it quells more than it's cost.

[narrow herald]

bruh brittle is asscheeks

never again

🤮

[jovial juniper]

You just got Pen Flame'd

[nocturne dust]

cara on purg?

[narrow herald]

flak sorry

tbh tho, unyield+crit might not be a bad combo on reg purge 🤔

[snow nymph]

Im not gonna fucking play pskyker for a bit but my build as i leveled to 30 was knife, bolter pistol, assail, dome shield, the middle capstone, and everythi g that made my melee better/better when at high peril

Am i stupid because it seemed to work ok up through heresy and damnation

[marble crater]

If it works, it works

[wispy bay]

What's the difference between Illisi and Deimos?

[fathom adder]

Illisi is for hordes, Deimos is for single target. Illisi special attack doesn't stick to the enemy, Deimos does

[fringe garden]

They are kid of polar opposites. Deimos is for killing heavy armored single targets. Illisi is a street sweeper vs hordes

[fathom adder]

And if things are the same as I remember, the Deimos special attack is basically never worth using as L1+H2 is faster, safer, and does more damage

[wispy bay]

Oh, so the exact usage I have been using for a long time.

If I want single target, rapier is my to go.

[young summit]

Deimos clear mixed hordes well imo

Illisi does better with pox hordes but feels stunted against armor to me

[fluid thistle]

l1h2?

oh

[young summit]

Light attack 1, heavy attack 2

[fluid thistle]

i get it

[young summit]

Both stabs

They hit hard

[tough flower]

is obscurus very bad or is it me on the topic of force swords?

tried using it and it felt horrible to deal with hordes

[young summit]

I forgot it existed tbh

[patent mango]

does it even exist

[tough flower]

i was wondering what to use as a "melee psyker" build but i still can't really figure out which weapon

[patent mango]

probably deimos or ds

[wispy bay]

I like Illisi, works well and looks good.

[young summit]

Agree

Deimos or Dueling sword

[mossy oyster]

@fresh reef only person ive seen use obscurus is this chick so

might have some forbidden eldritch knowledge

[young summit]

What does Obscurus do well?

[wispy bay]

Also because I can use special too regen toughness

[gritty gorge]

how would melee psyker work? like genuinely

[young summit]

I never even tried it leveling up

[tough flower]

tbf, it wasn't bad per say, but i've been overwhelmed by hordes in heresy with it, which never really happened before

[patent mango]

stab people

wait for new force melees

repeat

[prime elk]

I’ve had good success with a bonker gaze build

Very fragile though

[tough flower]

shock maul is soo fun lately

[mossy oyster]

didnt work

im exploding

lemme see if it works now 1 sec

[gritty gorge]

I respect bonking

[prime elk]

I use Rashad for it to sustain scriers for stupid amounts of time

[young summit]

Rashad is very good

[mossy oyster]

@gritty gorge heres melee soyker for ya

[prime elk]

Yeah not as good as it is on vet but still very good

[tough flower]

sad to play knife tho

[patent mango]

knoif

[mossy oyster]

ds isnt fast enough

i need mobility

[wispy bay]

I use DC* with scrier

[jovial juniper]

Big picking Illisi

[tough flower]

pretty sure duelling sword has same sprint speed

[prime elk]

Not enough raw dps on DC imo

[jovial juniper]

Illisi is pretty much able to proc all the bonus that would go to Warp and melee

[tough flower]

worked well for me on my gunker build, but struggle with carapace so far

[wispy bay]

Fair point, though I use it to clear trash mobs mostly.

It is just so quick.

[tough flower]

it's great yeah

[wispy bay]

Definitely not for solo clutching play.

[patent mango]

i really want a new force melee that can use peril like illisi but with cooler combos

[tough flower]

they should make a force melee that use a toggle to always use force

[wispy bay]

This is my main reason for me

[tough flower]

so you can stack peril without pressing that damn button

[patent mango]

i like the special but all the attacks feel the same on illisi

[wispy bay]

And the heavy push of force sword still make it easier to deal with armoured.

[thorn cedar]

a gun with perils ammo that you can quell with

[tough flower]

and if you're at 100, you just explode 🧨

[jovial juniper]

Illisi special also distributes the damage pretty well

[thorn cedar]

or really just a gun you can quell with, id love that as a special

[mossy oyster]

just slap TTS on every gun

[tough flower]

they made laspistol use peril with special, they can probably do that

[wispy bay]

Doesn't the node "wrap kill regen toughness" even works on forces sword special? I never notice it to proc.

[thorn cedar]

yes

[tough flower]

it does yeah, like malefic momentum iirc

[wispy bay]

Not meta blessing, but it helps me to deal with some armoured every now and then.

[nocturne dust]

Neither is meta

Use uncanny for elites

Use slaughterer for the big strength buffs

[tough flower]

uncanny would definitely help with carapace, don't know about hordes though

[nocturne dust]

Slaughterer is for hordes

[tough flower]

prob doesn't change much

[nocturne dust]

uh

It changes quite a lot

[tough flower]

i mean, uncanny vs unarmored/infested

[nocturne dust]

Not in terms of gameplay, but in terms of effectiveness.

[nocturne dust]

Ah, well, yeah

uncanny is great because it adds bonus damage against most things

[remote shadow]

🫵

Never manifest that again.

[buoyant maple]

u could run slaughterer + shred, it's not bad

[zinc phoenix]

Today I had a game where I went through three teams with 25 deaths

I survived the thing but good Christ

I kept having people die multiple times, finally leave and get replaced by bots, then new people would join the meatgrinder

[prime elk]

Good penance farm

[cyan portal]

Superiority is secretly great if you weapon swap animation cancel electrostaff secondary.

[minor wedge]

Morning everyone. I have a quick question about the psyker.

So I'm playing Psyker with the Electro staff and .... Smite ? I think its called ?

I try to hit elites with my staffs rightclick fire whenever possible but especially to BoN's or crushers it doesn't seem to do all that much.

Am I doing something wrong ?

Or should I instead try to get close and hit em with my forcesword ?

[patent mango]

deimos forcesword or ds does good bon and crusher dmg

and deimos has a silly amount of stagger on its h2 that can stagger ogryns lol

[fresh reef]

Heavy spam

That's it

[nocturne dust]

Crushers it works against, it at least stuns them and kills them in ~4-5 hits (on a not +carapace staff). Melee will be quicker, yes, but far more dangerous.

[fresh reef]

Obscurus is good if you never wanna use light attacks

[nocturne dust]

The same is true of bosses. Melee will be quicker but less safe, the damage is okay for staffker.

[cyan portal]

The stagger is also useful to protect teammates from eating overheads

[minor wedge]

I'm just having a lot of fun with all the lightning I can throw around ^^

Smite is realy good to use when the team gets overwhelmed

[patent mango]

get shock maul for even more lightning (it wont be good though)

[minor wedge]

less so in killing things it seems

[nocturne dust]

Nobody tell them

[minor wedge]

I was told "Smykers" are bad

But im having a blast

[cyan portal]

switching smite for brain rupture with kinetic flayer can help a lot vs crushers occasionally

[minor wedge]

^^

[patent mango]

smykers that only use smite can be annoying yeah

[minor wedge]

Oh yeah, I dont do that.

But its fun to charge my psykic power up to max with smite and then unleash a shriek into a huge crowd and see them all burn

^^

Mainly using my sword and staff though

[minor wedge]

Noted, thankyou

I used to only onetrick zealot for a LONG time

Then took an even longer break

now im back and try out new things

psyker is hillarious

[zinc phoenix]

That’s the worst part, they kept quitting or dying before I could revive them 😂

[prime elk]

Fuck then there’s no winning

[fresh reef]

Does 165 hp + 21% equal 200 hp?

199.65 but I don't know if it rounds up

[tame venture]

what's the dump stat for the flame staff again? quell speed?

[fresh reef]

Damage

[tame venture]

really?

[strong gulch]

Warp resist for general staff builds.

Voidstrike dumps blast radius, but can also dump WR.

[tame venture]

yeah i got strike and blast set

[strong gulch]

By general, I mean shirek with warp charges.

[tame venture]

fixing up my fire and shock

[nocturne dust]

I'm playing a match rn (well, I'm dead for soon-to-be-obvious reasons) with 70 ping but the lag is so bad enemies are flying through the air

[tame venture]

as it is, this is the fire staff i have atm

i have a blue that's got 60% warp resist though

[nocturne dust]

it probably rounds up in the UI

not sure about backend

[tame venture]

huh, just bought a 61% damage fire staff

nerfing damage still feels weird

[strong gulch]

Don't dump damage.

Direct damage matters now.

[nocturne dust]

always did, just was acceptable with bad RNG

[strong gulch]

yip

[tame venture]

so it is quell speed now then?

[strong gulch]

I should say matter more now

[strong gulch]

Warp resist

[tame venture]

guess i rolled an appropriate one then

[wispy bay]

Why dump WR over QP?

[nocturne dust]

The difference from 60 to 80 of Warp Resist is not going to do anything. Quell means you can quell for less time

[wispy bay]

I usually just switch weapon

[nocturne dust]

Manually quell

Staffkers don't really want to engage in melee.

It's always a major DPS/effectiveness loss for them. At least on staff builds.

Barring certain targets on some staves that you want to melee because your staff won't deal with it, like crushers with Purgatus

[wispy bay]

I'm just a weird mage then

[nocturne dust]

also iirc Quell Speed changes peril decay too

[spark flume]

OH @nocturne dust I forgot to ask yesterday but what are your perks for LMB EK staff?

[wispy bay]

Void strike with force sword and smite.

[nocturne dust]

flak and +crit chance

[spark flume]

TYTY

[strong gulch]

For most staff builds, it's a shriek spam build. Higher WR + ER hinders that. Especially if the staff is lower peril gen like purg / inferno.

[spark flume]

is it better to hold LMB and then quell cancel, to tap lmb and do it, or is there no diff?

[strong gulch]

You have to tap LMB then tap quell when the animation changes after the bolt goes out. Fiddle with time timing to figure it out.

[late sapphire]

Passive quelling (peril decay) also scales with quell speed

But talents and blessings aren't influenced by it

But the reason you dump wr is that it scales really poorly anyways

[restive slate]

I'm looking for alternatives for Gunpsyker

Something other than DS4 and Columnus/Vraks IAG

Hoping for smth that deals with Armour but not Bistol

[strong gulch]

Laspistol and deimos.

Revolver is also a thing.

@fresh reef Give us your shotgun info.

[fresh reef]

Deimos is good

[restive slate]

Which revolver? I heard both good and bad reviews for Revolver Psyker

[fresh reef]

I like bolt pistol

Ask paradise about shotgun stuff

@mossy oyster

[restive slate]

Hmmm shotty psyker has my interest

I saw someone shared a clip of a Psyker with Brauto, thoughts?

[digital hill]

Deimos is great, I love sending crushers flying with that thrust

[visual prism]

i use zarona to snipe elites

[mossy oyster]

im watching a show rn just post the images i sent in dm to here

i'll answer the questions about it later

[late sapphire]

ds4 👍

[late sapphire]

both, zarona is snipey, agripiina works well with scriers gaze and crucian roulette, you can just dump a mag to great effect

double barrel and shotty are also nice

[strong gulch]

Specifically not DS4.

[late sapphire]

in terms of melee, chainaxe is neat, shock maul can also deal with armor wellish

knife is ok too but it's just shitty ds

[strong gulch]

oh yeah

those too

[young spear]

knife is fast asl

run at 3000mph

[jovial juniper]

Lawby special shot proccing True Aim
My beloved

[winter siren]

I love knocking crushers and bulwarks over with the trauma and then executing them on the ground

[nocturne dust]

Need force halberd for executioner chop

[winter siren]

trauma is the most fun staff, unless you are near stairs, stairs are the bane of the trauma

[young spear]

on the bright side, stairs usually means chokepoint

just gotta stay at the top or bottom

[winter siren]

yeah just how often the marker glitches and lands one step down fro mthe top and doesnt aoe properly or goes between them and misses lol

[young spear]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[nocturne dust]

It's not a glitch, the marker is an invisible grenade being thrown

You can throw grenades through stairs

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[winter siren]

yeah but a greande applies a spherical aoe, the trauma is a circle on the ground, which gets stopped by the step of the stairs

[young spear]

ive not really noticed too many issues iwth the line of sight of the explosion hitting enemies

but the targeting is iffy on stairs with gaps

[nocturne dust]

Right, but the circle's position is due to an invisible grenade being thrown, mechanically speaking

[blissful solar]

if you're on the top of the stairs you should be able to use the trauma pretty consistently (to aim down the stairs)

but you cant

[winter siren]

like most of fatshark, it works most of the time, but if you really get into a weapon, you can often find weird things

[nocturne dust]

I don't know what you're talking about, Fatshark is flawless and nothing ever goes wrong

[winter siren]

like the quell bugs with the surge that was insane dps

[nocturne dust]

Quell canceling isn't a bug, to be fair

[winter siren]

when it allows you to effectively double the dps of a weapon it kinda borders on a glitch/exploit

[nocturne dust]

It's an exploit sure

[young spear]

are you talking about animation canceling the right click?

[restive slate]

I remember doing qq spam in Vermintide 2

[young spear]

didnt know you could cancel it with quell, thats neat, i always canceled it with weapon swap

[nocturne dust]

Left click quell cancelling

[young spear]

yea

oh

orb spam gotcha

[nocturne dust]

LMB spam with a maxed-out quell cancel macro is possibly the strongest build on Psyker

[winter siren]

as long as you can aim heads lol

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[young spear]

my ping is usually too high for the lmb to feel good

[winter siren]

so many psykers seem to forget about Lclick

[nocturne dust]

Although it would probably be completely fine as a strong build if you hit feet

[restive slate]

Not the Gunkers

[winter siren]

So my tactic is the treat it more like the voidstrike and really look for lanes of fire

maximise the dps by using pathing to make it easy to hit heads

[young spear]

i do that, im saying the lmb feels bad on high ping

[winter siren]

yeah projectiles always do

[blissful solar]

many things do in this game, for some reason

[nocturne dust]

Trusting clients? In a PvE game???

Illegal

[blissful solar]

kinda wish hit was clientside

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

good

[storm estuary]

penetrating flame any good on inferno staff?

[nocturne dust]

It's 3rd best blessing

[storm estuary]

what are the first two? 👀

[nocturne dust]

Blaze Away is first by light years, Nexus is second

[storm estuary]

okay, thats what im running now

will i notice a big difference if i drop nexus for pen?

[split lance]

ye

[nocturne dust]

eh

not a huge difference

You can tell though

I run pen for the boss damage, but Nexus is generally just better

[wispy bay]

Void strike on rolling steel is so dumb

Basically a slower and weaker plasma gun, but larger projectile that headshot so many things.

[young spear]

woe, ball be upon ye

[late sapphire]

I love my little ballstaff

[winter siren]

i love my little ... & ...

[zinc phoenix]

playing ogryn sucks so hard

[wispy bay]

It is no longer a staff, it is shaft and balls.

[jovial juniper]

Chat

Perfectionism

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-gif-19731005

There's just not enough enemies

[mossy oyster]

wait higui

havoc will have enough enemies to make perfectionism viable

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

Voidstrike kills everything including potential targets

[fluid thistle]

what does this mean for the laymen?

[fast coral]

left click shoot fast good, shoot faster because macro really really good

[strong gulch]

M1 / primary bolt on a surge / EK staff with blessings surge + warp nexus. Quell cancel is an animation that makes those bolts shoot faster. A macro makes it so you don't have to perform the cancel yourself, it's done automatically.

[fast coral]

yeah its insane, i see psykers using it and they also have a auto quell mod to boot, lmao it barely builds any peril

[digital hill]

Macros

you mean mods could make sure I dont explode?

[tame venture]

man, the normal shot spam build is kinda silly

but surprisingly decent enough in combat i think

perhaps i should try it with scryers or something lol

this build probably could do something with it

[mossy oyster]

scriers no movement speed

🤢

[tame venture]

i don't need to move if thing dead

[mossy oyster]

wrong

speed is king

[tame venture]

drop what then

[mossy oyster]

its not my build, you can keep what you want

I just think scriers with no movement speed is gross

but if you really wanted to drop something you can drop assail cleave (unless you want that much cleave) warp splitting does all the cleaving for you on assail

[tame venture]

yeah i think i would. really i rarely use the blitzes on psyker really ever

it always feels like something else does what they do better

or what i do with that time i spend using it could be more effective with something else

[verbal thistle]

: (

[mossy oyster]

personally (if you didnt want to take KD) id drop both assail nodes and buff scriers all the way

(movement speed and TDR while its overcharging)

[tame venture]

i may want to switch in that node that makes exploding give corruption instead of dying

[mossy oyster]

eh you already have warp unbound

i dont think 2 safety nets is necessary

[zinc phoenix]

It’s still really good but you’re right that the boosted move speed is amazing

[fluid thistle]

I don't even know the first thing about building / playing scrier's :)))

i just stay away from it lol

i'm still learning weapon names

but i do like it's movement speed

[tame venture]

i've not used it ever so i don't have the muscle memory for how long i can push it

[mossy oyster]

its 10 seconds

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/366

[tame venture]

sure, but i haven't tried pushing it yet. i only ever used scryers with guns

[digital hill]

Scryers is so fun, I cant imagine myself going back to venting shrief.

As much as I love soulblaze.

[wispy bay]

I just got my 1st game without down in auric damnation with psyker

[digital hill]

GRATS

[wispy bay]

smiting, ball charge, melee, everything

[atomic swan]

the problem of scrier with staff is you cant control the peril too much when it about to end
and Warp Unbound allow you to keep firing after scrier ended
(sorta, since you still gonna explode when firing at precise timing)
you can quell it when you have space

[wind jay]

Warp Unbound bug makes me want to take crystaline will sometimes

[digital hill]

I did for a bit lol

But then I thought, you know what? Im the poxburster now.

And it all made sense.

[azure parcel]

What's the bug

[wind jay]

You still explode sometimes

[digital hill]

It don't like assail that's for sure.

Was blowing up constantly.

[tame venture]

well i'm just entertaining using a LMB spam staff on scryer's.
in all honesty when i'd want to use scryer's for real i'd take reconlasgun or IAG, or revolver etc

[wind jay]

Playing my recordings back it mostly happens when you cast in the 98-99% range, warp unbound should click in to stop you from booming, but it doesn't do so 100% of the time.

[strong gulch]

There is a small window bewteen SG ending and WU begining during which you explode if you do a peril generating attack.

[azure parcel]

[wind jay]

You can wait for gaze to hit 100% before casting again to get around the bug from what can tell. But I am unsure of specifics.

[digital hill]

I think it's because what you're casting at 99 puts you in the explodey threshhold that isn't covered by scryer's gaze, since it doesnt kick in until 100% with the lingering. Like assail is a staggered attack, so I'd throw them out and die pretty quick.

[azure parcel]

I don't want to play Gunker, I want to try staff scrier

[digital hill]

Staff+sword is fun.

[wind jay]

Gaze is the "for real" LMB spam build imo

[strong gulch]

Except for when it's at 100% from SG. Though, default peril UI rounds the actual number. So idk.

[digital hill]

Yeah, I think the bug is somewhere in that. Something is pushing you into a threshhold that scryer's gaze may not be coded to cover

Could be latency 🤷

Assail is the devil, though.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/weakness-disgusts-me-madara-uchiha-madara-naruto-weakness-disgust-me-gif-17219305

[digital hill]

Listen. It's great. I love watching a horde just melt from my warp shanks.

[nocturne dust]

I don't even use Warp Unbound while using SG and Assail

[digital hill]

I KNOW

Disgusts me

Because I'm all how

[strong gulch]

I do. 100% WS gaming.

Cleave for me thanks. Just spam. Bees go brrr.

[atomic swan]

it just works
although i dropped it after a few matches
and start banning myself using macros

[digital hill]

Im basically at 100% most of the time if I can help because that is where power lay. Ogryns are so impressed they offer me rations. Zealots ask forgiveness. Veterans put down their dueling swords.

[tame venture]

you're quell canceling, i assume, but that seems wayyy faster than i've ever gotten it to work

[digital hill]

I mean, I am definitely controlling my peril.

[nocturne dust]

Well you see, when you watch the number and spamming click, stop clicking at around 70% and it will go to 100%

[digital hill]

I dunno what quell cancelling is, and Im not 100% all the time lol

[nocturne dust]

[digital hill]

But but

[nocturne dust]

so either stop earlier than 70% to continue SG or hit 100% to go into overtime thingy

[digital hill]

I can never tell!

Sometimes I step back and and its just like 100% from almost nothin'

[nocturne dust]

Mmmm, it's a lot worse if you have more lag

[strong gulch]

Quell cancel is a type of animation cancel that stops and animation early and allows for faster casting.

[digital hill]

Hmm.

How do?

[nocturne dust]

press R

or whatever your quell button is

[digital hill]

Just in mid animation eh

[nocturne dust]

yeh

do it real fast

[digital hill]

sniff

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️

[digital hill]

I don't know if I approve.

Smacks of a lack of commitment.

[nocturne dust]

I don't bother with quell cancelling

[digital hill]

Same. It's just mostly swording.

I go real fast and Deimos sends crushers flying. It'll never get old.

[wind jay]

LMB builds are busted already. They don't need it.

[strong gulch]

If you macro it, that is a lack of commitment. If you do it manually, there is commitment to learning and timing it. It also varies on the thing your are trying to cancel.

[digital hill]

You've framed it in such a way that I am intrigued.

[nocturne dust]

Nonsense, the macro is a commitment to not murdering your fingers

[strong gulch]

this is true

[nocturne dust]

I think the macro-ers are more sane than the manual-ers.

[strong gulch]

non murdered fingies is better

full auto mod is the only way I can play laspistol

[nocturne dust]

yes

[digital hill]

Man, I played, and often do play, a MUD game for like 23 years. All typing. All words. My crooked fingers are like the reaching branch hand of a gnarled tree. All keys are mine.

https://tenor.com/view/weird-hands-hands-scary-hands-gif-21113197

[strong gulch]

Older vid. M1 on staves is faster now than it used to be. But 2:23 shows some different quell canceling.
https://youtu.be/zcINF72qAdY?si=Bz5i0Mj_TsiYQcmk&t=155

[digital hill]

@nocturne dust From just a glimpse, how does this make you feel?

[nocturne dust]

bad

[digital hill]

It's made better by sword.

[nocturne dust]

still bad

[digital hill]

So much fun

Give them a little puff of inferno and just

[nocturne dust]

10% attack speed is nice but souldrinker is super meh for taking 3 points just to get to it, also you're missing psykinetics

[digital hill]

Fire.

yeah I think I could swap from wildfire

I've been bouncing back and forth

[nocturne dust]

Just take both and drop souldrinker

Don't take a melee node with the (effectively) melee staff

[digital hill]

But I love it 😦

Listen!

Okay

It's just

Always up.

[nocturne dust]

You do what you like, but souldrinker just doesn't do enough.

[digital hill]

Yeah?

😦

It's kind of a meme build

[atomic swan]

You are not burning when you are meleeing

[digital hill]

Hah

HAH

[strong gulch]

If you want to keep souldrinker, then drop soulstealer for psyk aura.

[digital hill]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-beric-game-of-thrones-go-t-hbo-gif-11408956

[nocturne dust]

Meta-wise, it would still be non-meta even on the correct side of the tree

[nocturne dust]

We haven't seen the bottom half

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[strong gulch]

True, but inferno.

[strong gulch]

If SG melee, why no by crack of bone?

[digital hill]

I like it a lot!

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-emoji-angry-hakayaki-hakayaki-angry-emoji-gif-13101565263917230073

[digital hill]

But like.

The constant toughness regen being up seemed a more optimal route. Scryer's is popping all the time, and I don't feel like I walked away from a horde wishing I had spent more time in scryers, when Im hitting weak points anyway right

Which triggers precog?

[nocturne dust]

The movement speed and TDR nodes on SG are questionable since they don't even work during Warp Unbound time

[digital hill]

They don't, no.

I could go without the toughness.

hm

Gone!

[nocturne dust]

SG itself is kinda questionable, especially the finesse node on the non-finesse staff

[digital hill]

Staff is rarely out.

Its to crit and set fire.

[strong gulch]

I get dropping psyk aura if SG tho for some builds. Still, getting it back wicked fast with WU is silly.

[digital hill]

WHAT

YOU KNOW MY THING MAN

I've shown you my sword!

[nocturne dust]

Don't take purg then

Take a gun

[digital hill]

Ew.

I need fire.

Just a little.

[nocturne dust]

Take burn recon

Fire

[digital hill]

Ew.

[nocturne dust]

[digital hill]

Im not some veteran. I have standards!

Okay, toughness regen is gone from SG. What should I do with this point?

[strong gulch]

Fire recon is strong on psyker

but if no want, then no want

[nocturne dust]

Think about your life and the decisions that led you to this point.

[digital hill]

Yes, but Im saving gun play on my zealot/vet.

[digital hill]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-crypto-cryptocurrency-stock-market-exchange-gif-23507273

https://tenor.com/view/loki-magic-sword-gif-22311870

I'll try it without movement speed. I am very suspect.

[nocturne dust]

I mean if you're on a melee build keep the speed

but also

I wasn't expecting a melee-focused build with purg

[digital hill]

Yes, mostly melee. I mean honestly, I do swap them out as necessary, I like being able to utilize the staff and sword in tandem like this.

[nocturne dust]

also no Warp rider? Smh my head

[digital hill]

I know

I want it.

lol

I'd love malefic momentum

but icky smite.

or icky assail

[digital hill]

I appreciat that you're the balance to DeadVoid in regards to suggesting outrageous talent nodes and approving of it.

I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH

[nocturne dust]

I will not-silently judge you.

[strong gulch]

We both have unhinged builds, so we get it. 💀

Void's symmetry build and my WU trauma with crystalline will.

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, Symmetry 2 is going to get so many "why isn't this wall blocking specials?"

[digital hill]

It was the build for my first three damnations I did today, and while it's possible I was carried, I'll never know because no mods. Thus, it clearly works.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you're skilled enough you can run around with grey weapons and no talents

I'm not that skilled tho