psyker-class

[marble crater]

I have to change all my builds, don't I?

[haughty star]

Not necessarily but the new stuff is worth trying

[strong gulch]

ER reduces peril gen A LOT. It also reduces your toughness gen from all sources. It's great on surge. The other node next to it (rending something or other) doesn't work right now.

Warp splitting works on assail btw.

[haughty star]

Like I personally don't find the toughness loss to be ever worth it on ER except for smiteker and lmb surge but alot enjoy it

[marble crater]

Bugged talents, the more things change the more they stay the same

[strong gulch]

Mettle was nerfed. It can't carry fire trauma anymore.

[marble crater]

Nooooo

Wait, nerfed when?

[haughty star]

Thwt abhorrent thing doesn't need carrying

[haughty star]

Thr rearmed patch

[marble crater]

[jovial juniper]

Pots is the last piece I need on my smite build
Angry Kiryu.gif

[strong gulch]

During the crafting update. It's per attack attack not hit. It still carries purg but it is a bit funky. Need several targets or more to fill your toughness bar quick.

[marble crater]

But blaze trau- sorry, blaze voidblast is still good?

[strong gulch]

Ye.

[quartz barn]

Trauma is better now because blaze t4 is a thing now

[strong gulch]

OH! Kinetic Flayer got buffed. KF now only targets elites, specials, and monsters.

[brazen rampart]

Me when I deimos h2 a crusher and his fuckin head disappears randomly: "oh right I have kf."

[patent mango]

when do they buff charged strike

[marble crater]

Please don't play with my heart, is it really?

[strong gulch]

it's real

[ashen trellis]

kinda broad question but how does smite actually work lol, like does it have set amount of enemies that can be smited concurrently and the +1 jump adds literally +1 enemy smited?

[strong gulch]

still 6 sb cap tho

[marble crater]

[ashen trellis]

cause I'm running smite on a surge staff right click spam build as a literal placeholder and was wondering how weaker is it compared to proper smite build with +1 jump and whatever else

[jovial juniper]

When they change the stupid mass mechanic from it

[marble crater]

The +1 is for the amount of enemies each chain jumps to, not that it jumps to one more enemy, right? Because the spread is significantly faster with the +1

[jovial juniper]

Base smite will shock 2 people at first then propagate to the others

With+1 you can start by shocking 3 people

[ashen trellis]

so it goes 2+2+2, whereas in +1 talent it goes 3+3+3

if that makes sense?

[jovial juniper]

Then it'll probably jump to others on a similar fashion yeah

We don't really have tests on smite and if we do, I haven't found it

[ornate hamlet]

Smite is palpatine

[patent mango]

wuh?

i didnt try it for too long whar is this mechanic

[ashen trellis]

I see, thanks

[strong gulch]

I don't know the exact details of smite's enemy limits, but I do know that the increase in jump is just one enemy and increases the spread significantly but is only worth it on a smite ep build.

Smite ep does much more damage than just base smite; but what it does even more is enable shriek, PC, wildfire, and psyk aura all while turning off the enemy AI and ticking away with damage so that it has a good chance at getting the last bit of health on a target even if you weren't the one who did more of the damage (which means you get credit lol)

[jovial juniper]

The higher the mass the less the ticks
So a monstrosity with 20 mass will take 1 karking tick

Before you can apply CS again

Apparently Enfeeble affects that mass mechanic

[patent mango]

so its even more useless lmao

[jovial juniper]

And I'm curious to see if Perfect Strike does something

[strong gulch]

Wow CS... get it together.

[marble crater]

Don't forget that your team will always appreciate you smiting the enemy hoard, so make sure you smite as much and often as possible for best results

[patent mango]

they could probably 10x cs damage and it'd still be bad

[strong gulch]

Scattered and behind structures too.

[clear heath]

they could probably make charged strike last forever and i still wouldn't take it

[patent mango]

even on a melee build i dont take it

[jovial juniper]

I wish I could run more tests, but hardware limitations (console)

Or would it be software.... Doesn't matter

[clear heath]

my condolences

[patent mango]

tbh if cs just did 15% of the total attack dmg it'd be good

[jovial juniper]

Nah I'll cope

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-side-eye-disgust-homelander-disgust-gif-8598740096398412855

[marble crater]

Software I guess, because no mods

[strong gulch]

I've taken it a couple times because bleed shocky knife or shocky fire sword are funny.

Oh! MM also got a buff. It works on warp and non warp things now.

[jovial juniper]

Anyways if someone could test perfect strike charged strike on a monstrosity it would help a lot

[plucky flax]

STOP BEING SELFISH IN WAR

[strong gulch]

What's perfect strike again??

[jovial juniper]

Crits ignore mass or something along those lines

On the heavy sword

[marble crater]

@plucky flax who are you did you assume the identity of the YouTuber?

[plucky flax]

I am fake Unsanctioned

[marble crater]

Are you still with the penguins?

[plucky flax]

Nah I am home now.

How are your wrists?

[broken carbon]

crits get 4x cleave and can cleave carapace and bulwark shields

[marble crater]

Fine I guess, I didn't play in a few months, on my way to change that later though

[plucky flax]

Surge got buff with a talent called empyric resolve.

[clear heath]

smh cringe youtuber abandoning their teammates

[plucky flax]

More spamming

[marble crater]

[plucky flax]

go alone
Survive
teammatess stick together but die

being selfish in war

[marble crater]

Is it acceptable to jump straight back into auric after a few month pause?

[plucky flax]

It's just logic.

Yeah you'll be fine.

You are very op player.

[ornate hamlet]

I just run surge and the other blessing for increased damage , and then go for Crit chance and do a quell cancel build cause that makes my psycher gaming worthy enough for the E M P E R O R OF MAN KIND

[clear heath]

i don't get people's obsession with hunting enemies at the back

just go forward

the enemies will come with

[strong gulch]

Sometimes maps really feck over the people in the back and slow them down, but like if 3 of them can't handle things then they were already fecked.

[plucky flax]

I was talking about surge staff! Unless you mean quell cancel with surge staff using left click?

[marble crater]

Speaking of maps, how is the new train map

[clear heath]

bad

[strong gulch]

What's the heavy sword dump? Is it the same for psyker vs other classes?

[ornate hamlet]

I just said quell cancel

[marble crater]

Oh, why?

[clear heath]

objectives are cringe

someone has to interact with a thing for a really long time while the other 3 wait around and defend them

[plucky flax]

Quell cancel with left click yeah. Right click you should use blitz cancel instead.

[jovial juniper]

Should be defences yeah

[ornate hamlet]

? Nah ima share a vid of what I’m referring to

[clear heath]

time limit of the mission can also get pretty rough with randoms

[strong gulch]

thanks

[plucky flax]

Aye I am confused.

[ornate hamlet]

https://youtu.be/Lj2bfUPOMRw?si=iyg6RLZo0ytNlZwj

This build

Scriez gaze and disrupt destiny

Run the double shot on Crit and surge with Unyl and Crit chance

[plucky flax]

Yeh that's left click so it's fine. I thought you meant quell cancel with right click which is weird

[strong gulch]

Oh I see we still have broken tooltips.

[patent mango]

it keeps coming back

[jovial juniper]

The rot sets in

🤷

[marble crater]

Bladed Momentum, is that new or renamed Bromentum?

[mental rock]

Try reading what it says

[radiant frigate]

i wish i could run force greatsword

[radiant frigate]

new

[patent mango]

force greatsword is the only way atoma gets cleansed

[radiant frigate]

also brumentum on heavy sword is not called brumentum

[marble crater]

Doesn't help, I didn't play for so long I don't even remember the exact text of Bromentum

[radiant frigate]

it gives you rending when you hit multiple targets

[marble crater]

What was it death blow or something like that?

[radiant frigate]

which is a really asinine trigger condition because you can't get it when you need rending (crushers)

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[marble crater]

Thanks, so I don't have to relearn everything at least

[jovial juniper]

Well you'll have to learn the difference between Chained Deathblow and Deathblow

[late sapphire]

warp unbound bug blew up my grimoire 😭

[marble crater]

Only if I play something other than dueling swords

[radiant frigate]

what the fuck-fuck is chained deathblow

[brazen rampart]

Crit chance on kills, iirc.

[upper sun]

hi

welcome back

[marble crater]

Shred for kills?

[marble crater]

Thank you

[upper sun]

bladed momentum is the new shit rending blessing

[radiant frigate]

[marble crater]

Shit as in good or bad?

[radiant frigate]

"hi we will give you armor piercing when you're not fighting armor"

[upper sun]

shit as in shit

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

its only useful during the 21st mobian modifier

[radiant frigate]

uncanny strike remains the goat

[brazen rampart]

Bladed momentum should've been rending on special hits.

[marble crater]

There is a 21st mobian modifier? What does it do?

[upper sun]

armored trash

[brazen rampart]

Make special attacks actually mean something outside of stagger, fatshark.

[brazen rampart]

Modifier from the last event, chaff was basically all scab bruisers.

[radiant frigate]

is flak really armor though

[marble crater]

Melee only, but with trash?

[upper sun]

yeah

kinda

idk

flak doesnt have hitmass modifiers

idk

[late sapphire]

is slaughter spree peak?

[marble crater]

Sounds fun

[late sapphire]

or is it weak?

[radiant frigate]

flak be like "hi i'm armor" but then laspistols do more damage to it than to naked flesh

[quartz barn]

Because laser pointer

Cook them in their armor

[jovial juniper]

Armored Groaners, more spawns

[radiant frigate]

yes but then big laser pointer does the opposite

weak vs flak strong vs maniac

[jovial juniper]

The 21st horde really made cleaving weapons shine

[marble crater]

Was it only for the event or is it a permanent modifier now?

[quartz barn]

Bigger laser packs more heat but isnt as concentrated, so heats up armor slower

[late sapphire]

I genuinely never noticed a difference

Voidstrike still goes through em like butter

[jovial juniper]

It was for the event but it will come back with Havoc

We don't know when Havoc will be released though

[marble crater]

I saw something about havoc, not sure what exactly it is though, need to read up on that

[nocturne dust]

Dclaw + Autoshredder.

[late sapphire]

shredder pisstol 😢

it used to be good

[radiant frigate]

what if shredder didn't suck ass

[late sapphire]

i was running shredder momentum zealot having fun with the armor pen on charge but every single part of that equation got nerfed...

[radiant frigate]

so what blessings would one even run on shredder

blaze away cavalcade?

[jovial juniper]

BA Pinning Fire?

[radiant frigate]

all this just to be a worse autogun

[hearty wolf]

I just had a game that has mentally scarred me

[radiant frigate]

it isn't even more mobile

[marble crater]

Sounds like most games

[hearty wolf]

It's partially my fault but like

This Ogryn was super lost and just wandering around 200 miles behind

so I typed "move"

I guess they were queued because there were 4 bosses in a row and they did not give a single shit so I had to kill them all myself

They just kept holding W until they turbo died

[marble crater]

[hearty wolf]

then I got rekt by a few maulers+bulwark cos ranged enemies scary

ranged enemies solo on psyker feels awful

they weren't even gunners

just regular ranged mobs

[marble crater]

You told them to move, you didn't say anything about killing heretics

[hearty wolf]

idk they just didn't take it well

I didn't want to type out a full

"Hey can you catch up to us so we can stay as a team"

cos that's how you get munched by a dog midtype

when I died they even hit me with the

"move"

[marble crater]

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-blinkingcat-cute-funny-gif-8859604814399687515

[marble crater]

That's pretty funny though

[hearty wolf]

Ngl it was pretty funny, I was just in disbelief

I hit scoreboard half way through because I was really confused why this beast of nurgle was undying

I had 85k boss damage, runner up had 25k

lemme see if I can pull up scoreboard

for some reason I keep crashing at the end of games now

[radiant frigate]

very sad

[lone ravine]

It’s always annoying to see nobody with boss killing in mutated horrors

[paper harbor]

I met same kind 4 Vet but no boss killing

[hearty wolf]

Welp just tried to scan and it crashed me too xd

[hearty wolf]

If you want a job done right...

[lone ravine]

What boss killing option does a staff psyker even have

[paper harbor]

The void strike crit headshot stagger plague ogryn

[lone ravine]

What about BoNs

[radiant frigate]

burnination staff and zappification staff

[paper harbor]

Vrak (racking fire and dumdum blessing) Scrier gaze red stimm

That might be too specific but work

For chaos spawn?

Mmm

I think go fire and ds sword stabbing

And knife do crit and dclaw parry

If you Aggro 1v1 the chaos spawn

Good luck

With team does help benefit

[austere warren]

If you're out here with those options and giving yourself synergy with right tree talents across the board, that raking fire isn't having a hard time spinning. Whether or not someone is going to take on that commitment to create the situations where raking fire is spinning is the whole difference ig.

[paper harbor]

‘Frog. holiday hater’ made that racking fire on vrak as BoN killer

As want maximum output damage to kill BoN fast

[austere warren]

Mhm.

[paper harbor]

I test dumdum and racking fire on veteran using exe stance with red stimm it does took 3/4 hp

[austere warren]

In one magazine?

[paper harbor]

Yes

Shooting on back weakspot

Tested on damnation

[austere warren]

Cool. Glad to know that still has a place. I don't know if it has improved or gotten weaker. Raking fire on infiltration with the -90% aggro modifier is nuts as well. You lose a noticeable amount of damage but setting it up is much safer (assuming you're actually allowing yourself to play with right tree primary talent builds).

[paper harbor]

As long the BoN not turn toward you.

[austere warren]

That's what the modifier helps with. Throughout the lingering duration, your damage output is being suppressed on the aggro table by the feel of it. Usually, by then, the bloody thing was already dead. Haven't done it since...Karnak boss encounter debut. No idea how that arrangement stacks up now especially with the current event, any nurgle blessings, etc.

But with executioner stance, you're pretty much guaranteed the damage window if you're not pressed on an appropriate position for the weakspot.

And even without it, that damage is satisfactory enough to melt a health bar on any monstrosity.

[paper harbor]

Sometime you have to deal elite ranged enemies first then the boss

They can be annoying targeting you

[austere warren]

Ez drill tho, yeah? In a vacuum at least. Dumdum has a silly activation range too so you can finesse it well ime. More power to the player if their movement is consistent enough on dodge slides while staying on target.

[paper harbor]

Right

[austere warren]

||Close and Kill will make that so much easier to do if you're okay with taking a hit to some amount of damage and talent point costs for your build at large.||

[paper harbor]

Is 5%

I know pair with another 5% make 10%

I feel slow

[austere warren]

And the added mobility you're getting from weapons and curios if you happen to have them.

[paper harbor]

Lot weapon dumpstats are mobility

Exclude knifes

[haughty star]

Trash shooters are why I don't like ER.

[haughty star]

Maybe like a bukah ridiculous unyielding modifier

[hearty wolf]

Yeah I can see that. They just whittle you down into nothing

Do you have another screenshot of the changes you made to your scrier's build which were different from normal?

i.e lose endurance and kinetic deflect for soulstealer and tranquillity through slaughter?

[haughty star]

These are just a couple different ways I run it. Generally speaking as long as you keep ee, precog, perilous, dd, mettle and mm, and warp splitting with quick shards its gonna be pretty good

The one on the right is my current favorite iteration because I'm bad and like toughness generation from slaughtering

Quietide is truly broken on a good scriers pull tho lol I don't think much other than a overhand will break that regen

[zinc phoenix]

idk why you would take fire trait over quietude genuinely

its pretty minor extra damage while losing out on gigahuge regen

[haughty star]

Perilous is incredibly strong lol

I would cut triple stacks before id ever cut down perilous personally. It's just too strong to just cut out of a build that's one point away from it

[zinc phoenix]

you also skipped the TDR from peril node

which feels weird in a SG/gunker build

maybe ill dump the assail regen for PC in my own build

see how that feels

[vague furnace]

What's the best blessing for chainsword?

[haughty star]

I don't feel the tdr is that impactful. Also if you're running scriers it's generally probably more impactful to run the scriers based one as it is consistently up rather than only being better above 60~ peril

[haughty star]

Check in veterans guide pins

[edgy garnet]

Just tried out void strike, holy shiiiiiit

Cleave for days

[haughty star]

This is from psykaneum

[vague furnace]

Ty sir

Rev it up? Really?

[sour nest]

Use it to go brr

Melee on psyker is usually a last resort

[sour nest]

If you actually want to use it use smth else

[haughty star]

Eh ds4 does well on gunker

[patent mango]

force duelling sword

[haughty star]

Bruh

Like fuck a great sword give me a fds

[steel flame]

i wanna force rod so i can tap people and make them blow up

[jovial juniper]

Ok if you want to disregard Pygex thought process
Wrath Shred on the XIIIg
Rampage Shred on the Mk4

[steel flame]

pygex is more of a numbers guy. as i friend i love him, he goes deep to figure out game mechanics, that said I don't follow his build mentality

[quartz barn]

its because pygex hyper focusses on breakpoints, so you end up with super specific stats and seemingly random perks

[haughty star]

I can agree with the rev it up because chainsword do be getting ya into some sticky scenarios

[hearty wolf]

Vraks 5 blessings and perks?

[clear heath]

rev it up bloodletter sounds like an insane meme build pick to me, but then again i've never given chainsword on psyker much thought

[jovial juniper]

Flak whatever
Dumdum Deathspitter

[marble crater]

No new good blessings for those?

[jovial juniper]

Or dumdum raking for specific purposes

[hearty wolf]

Nurgle butt munching

But yes, thanks

[upper sun]

the only "new blessings" you should look at are blaze away and thrust

oh also oppoortunist on shield ogryn

[haughty star]

Or the back shooty one for bossing

[upper sun]

(it procs on each hit)

[hearty wolf]

I decided to do raking since it made my second option unyielding which makes sense

As soon as I learn how to deal with single ranged units, it's so over

I also have learned how shit this game is without uninterruptible

Flamers are aids

[marble crater]

will do when I learn the new crafting system later and craft weapons for an hour

[distant mural]

Regarding the Surge blessing, I know for sure that the double shot only affects primary projectile attacks on Trauma and Surge staffs, but what about the crit chance? Do they also affect the charged attacks on these staffs?
Cannot find an answer to that anywhere.

[upper sun]

an hour lmao

took me 2 days to clear my inventory and finish crafting

[haughty star]

Yes crit chance applies to secondary

[marble crater]

Oh no...

[upper sun]

@marble crater before you do anything

1. you can change weapon marks
2. sacrificing the same weapon type to that family group gives 4 times more xp
   also you can empower stuff freely after you have max mastery to 380

how many mats do you have?

[marble crater]

I have no idea what any of this means yet

[distant mural]

That would make sense, great, thanks for that.

[upper sun]

sacrificing same as before is now done to improve your total XP in crafting a weapon family which enables you to change it freely

make sure you sacrifice knives to knives heavy swords to heavy swords etc

[marble crater]

I should have enough, unless it was all deleted, haven't logged back in yet so not sure

[upper sun]

it took me 2mil dockets and ~30k plasteel to max everything

im sure you can afford that

[marble crater]

Oh yeah I have more than that

[upper sun]

for best results buy a grey weapon upgrade it to green and sacrifice it to the same weapon family

or upgrade a grey you have lying around

[marble crater]

Are the old bases in the inventory also updated with the new system where we can make them perfect?

[vague furnace]

@jovial juniper ah that's better ty

[upper sun]

yes

if you had a 370 it can now be upgraded to 380

with the stats being distributed equally

[marble crater]

Very nice, might save some time looking for bases then

[late sapphire]

try a bistol

there used to be a video of someone deleting a pogryn in one mag but discord autodeleted it

[ashen trellis]

I have this bug that makes the game genuinely unplayable if you're playing a staff psyker

basically when my frame rate drops my staff starts lagging

I don't know if anyone else experienced this

also using celerity stim makes your staff kinda unusable, even spam clicking when charged up won't make the attack go through

[prime elk]

Based. Play gunker instead

[ashen trellis]

I already do play it a lot, just really started to like Surge recently

[static needle]

Does enfeeble buff smite's own damage by 10% also?

[upper sun]

it should

[distant mural]

It does, although you will barely notice the difference, unless using the empowered smite.

[upper sun]

but its kinda not worth it

[distant mural]

Indeed, I cannot see a situation where it would really shine.
Maybe a premade group where your role is 100% smite spam, so that your mates clear faster...
But, well, not really how the game is meant to be played - neither fun IMO.

[edgy garnet]

Is voidstrike staff viable?

[hollow jolt]

yes but you're not going to like ragers very much

[static needle]

i am

[edgy garnet]

Why is that?

[hollow jolt]

slow to fire + need to charge

its never just "one" rager after all

[prime elk]

Ok fair surge is acceptable

[paper harbor]

I’ve spend long enough in zealot chat

😕

[clear heath]

you had enough of the furry channel?

[paper harbor]

No is just people known each other but I’m just alienated

[chrome dock]

Aight Spark’Eads Cliff Hanger is actually bugged.

Pushed a dozen off map and the number keeps reachin up slowly but goes down instantly?????

[paper harbor]

Only clad and I does interact

Other not so much about me

[hollow jolt]

shitpost more

and just butt into convos

worked for me

[paper harbor]

I don’t think stuff mid convo work it has to be know the topic

Yeah I’m not kind good social guy

I’m like quiet

[hollow jolt]

ah I just fly around the class channels

I literally don't even have a psyker and here I am

[paper harbor]

You like a decent existence of fame

I know you some people know you

Not everyone know you

[hollow jolt]

to be fair, its probably because I just chat here a lot

its not like I have good takes or anywthing

[paper harbor]

Fair point

[hollow jolt]

certainly not funny lmao

[paper harbor]

The truth what I want? Just play with people I know not random pubbies

[hollow jolt]

oh ironically the opposite from me

[paper harbor]

Is silence in a matches but I rarely get mic user

[hollow jolt]

takes too long for pre-mades and I don't have much time

[paper harbor]

Yeah

[hollow jolt]

to be fair, Darktide mic is ass

if I do pre-made, its on Discord

I've only done 4 pre-mades ever lol

[paper harbor]

I played with gale, path/dorn, clad last time

[hollow jolt]

900 hours 😎

[hollow jolt]

barrel

[paper harbor]

Is was nice but path doesn’t like how my psyker performance in tox gas modifier on damnation

Just two down and he doubt my skill play

[hollow jolt]

to be fair, tox gas is a bitch for psyker

tox gas debuffing toughness regen (on top of the damage) really hurts

[clear heath]

this kinda happens a lot in this server. It hasn't always been very active, so we just saw the same people here over and over for 2 years.

[paper harbor]

I think I also got silent trapper netted me

On no modifier

[hollow jolt]

classic trapper

[paper harbor]

Died there at manufatorum

[hollow jolt]

I play aurics and maelstrom and I feel like I'm dogshit whenever I get trappered

[paper harbor]

So that’s third one make path don’t like my build

[hollow jolt]

even if it was silent

[paper harbor]

The trapper netted behind me when I focus on BoN down stair shooting it

I didn’t expect get jumpscare by net

[hollow jolt]

to be fair, my build isn't exactly "the best" either

[hasty valve]

why do the bursters keep exploding in my face when i force push them?

never did before

[paper harbor]

Or I did hear the net whirl up for nanosecond

[hollow jolt]

did someone shoot it beforehand?

[hasty valve]

no

[clear heath]

tbh your builds are kinda cursed
but this game's skill trees aren't intuitive and it's pretty common for people to make mistakes with them

[paper harbor]

There was video show push attack with force weapon on pox burster with tentacle it explode

[hollow jolt]

on the mutated horde condition?

[clear heath]

push attack on force sword is a 1 damage ranged attack that always hits head

[wispy bay]

Did you dask back?

[paper harbor]

If I follow path skill tree then I will be same skill play even play both cursed and acceptable skill tree

[hollow jolt]

I remember when Exhilerating Takedown made you TAKE more damage

[radiant frigate]

kinetic flayer?

[hollow jolt]

that pissed me off so much

[radiant frigate]

"get toughness for ranged headshot kills" is such a silly talent

[clear heath]

I remember laughing at my friend for taking it when i found out

[hollow jolt]

my brother certainly did

"lol you dumbass, haven't you been using that build for like 5 months"

[paper harbor]

Zora told me gale just malding on me for specific build not having iron will

I have like 2 loadout has iron will

[clear heath]

the game barely functions so in all seriousness, i don't really blame people having bad builds.
It's just funny to make fun of them

[paper harbor]

I don’t like use same node on all across 4 loadout

[clear heath]

when the talents in the tree straight up lie to you, i cant really expect a new player to make any sense of what builds should be

[paper harbor]

Dorn then tell me I’m smyker knife I know that’s kind bully meant for joke

[hollow jolt]

to be fair, I usually just call their build dogshit too and nitpick back

[paper harbor]

Then he think I’m a minor lmao

[hollow jolt]

I'm stuck at work for 8 hours

I will argue for hours too 😎

[mellow stone]

Is the voidblast staffs primary fire chargeable?

[hollow jolt]

sadly no

[paper harbor]

Just the ball

[hollow jolt]

would be cool to fire more shots at once or something

[mellow stone]

thx for the info, wiki hasnt been updated yet

[paper harbor]

Yes bait and trap node

Path put that on the guide

[hollow jolt]

np, btw don't use the wiki, its terribly out of date

[hasty valve]

ah thats prob it. difficult to see when they pop up behind you 😦

[clear heath]

i don't remember this game ever having a good wiki

[paper harbor]

Wiki fandom

Outdated

Very

What’s up with dorn mentality?

He’s kinda hard to read from my perspective

[mellow stone]

Is there a difference between Assails primary fire (hipfire) and secondary fire (aimed shot)?

[paper harbor]

Primary fire homing on nearby target

Secondary aim specific target head glowing

[hollow jolt]

incredibly upfront and blunt (not bad thing)

[paper harbor]

Does more damage

Mmm

[verbal thistle]

He dislikes misinformation and is harsh on people to get them to improve. Makes him very blunt

[hollow jolt]

personally I'm so used to having to "be polite" aka lie when discussing about strats that Dorn is refreshing to see

[paper harbor]

Which is he want dictate someone build skill tree correctly?

[mossy oyster]

hes a noob elitist who abuses meta and wears naked you mean

[latent mauve]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-entry-infinity-war-gif-10391808

[marble crater]

Uh oh

[mossy oyster]

speak of the noob

and he shall appear

[latent mauve]

I read all

[strong gulch]

Assail primary meanders around a little bit and can be guided towards targets buy putting you reticle on the targets that you want. It can be tossed out quickly (can be tossed out between melee strikes) and can stagger or interrupt most human sized enemies. Be careful about using this near burster or demon hosts; wayward assails can cause problems (don't look at the DH while assailing unless you want to wake it up). It does less damage and builds less peril compared to the secondary / aimed assail.

The aimed one can be aimed directly at a target and does not need to be guided (tho it can be guided if the assail shard is still active after killing your aimed target). It does more damage than the primary, builds more peril, and is slower to perform.

Speaking of Dorn appearing, one of your vids made it onto my youtube home page.

[latent mauve]

Rip

[marble crater]

Is that good or...?

[hollow jolt]

Dorn gamersups ads soon

[paper harbor]

Not good against carapace

Like crusher or mauler

Rest is opposite

[marble crater]

Dorn is not good against crushers and maulers?

[strong gulch]

Lol seems like a good thing. I put it in my watch later list.

[latent mauve]

Yeah throwing me at a mauler would not do much

[paper harbor]

Oh shit I misread

[ornate hamlet]

[marble crater]

[hollow jolt]

we need to test for data

Fatshark pls add "barrel" throwing back

[upper sun]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[marble crater]

[upper sun]

wait im deeply sorry

wrong channel

[latent mauve]

I’m going to upload your gameplay clad

[upper sun]

do it

@latent mauve upload this too

AAAAAAAAAAA

[fiery stratus]

@latent mauve upload this

[paper harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-tf2-heavy-hevy-sandvich-gif-23754643

[marble crater]

[static needle]

Drip?

[mossy oyster]

not bad

[obsidian ivy]

Voidstrike is pain

[cosmic sigil]

Moth Man

[mossy oyster]

I like being a sexual tyrannosaurus more though

[static needle]

🔥

[marble crater]

At max mastery rank I assume I can unlock every single blessing available and can't possibly mess up?

[mossy oyster]

yes

you'd be correct

[marble crater]

Good, thanks

[vague furnace]

What's the best tactical axe varient and blessings?

[strong gulch]

Surge / electro / EK staff will have points left over.

[marble crater]

I will stick to the old names, the new ones are silly

They confuse my psyker brain

[strong gulch]

I hates them.

https://tenor.com/view/gollum-gif-17933792537173871210

[fiery stratus]

Alright, which one of yous the real Dirty Dan?

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-rip-head-off-empty-head-gif-11918102

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/im-dirty-dan-gif-11578342

[fiery stratus]

Ai Director when it sees you stray from your squad

[strong gulch]

Shout out to the loot goblins who risked their lives for booty.

[paper harbor]

Me

I stray away squad looking stuff

Specially plasteel

Scourging supplies

[fiery stratus]

the Ai director knows

thats why itll start singling you out with disablers and specials

[paper harbor]

I can take it

https://tenor.com/view/חרפא-yolo-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-aragorn-gif-23051447

[fiery stratus]

for now

https://tenor.com/view/sauron-lotr-lord-of-the-rings-mordor-the-eye-gif-5619682

[strong gulch]

I'm already disabled and my parents said I'm special, so let me loot in peace game.

[paper harbor]

Double Down syndrome

More disabler

Woe 20 mutant upon ye

[fiery stratus]

DS4 go brrrr

[latent mauve]

I checked a while ago

My average plasteel per game was 600

[fiery stratus]

gotta shoot those idols

[strong gulch]

Thank you for your community service.

[marble crater]

I'm happy to finally have a button to favorite things

[latent mauve]

Had to feed the hadron addiction

[fast coral]

i now understand all the smyker complaints. had a psyker use smite the whole game as primary attack lmao, including jumping while dodging to the side because their keys are bound to the same key

[marble crater]

New console player who didn't change keybindings

[fast coral]

i think so, actually

no steam name

[fiery stratus]

@strong gulch I should be done with any actual responsibilities today if you wanna squad up o7

[fast coral]

they also stayed to clear endless hordes of enemies, had to double back to keep ressing them

[marble crater]

On console dodge and jump are the same button by default, it's not ideal

[fiery stratus]

Same as pc tbh

They're both space by default

[marble crater]

Silly for both platforms then

[strong gulch]

I got time for a mission before I feed the critters.

[fiery stratus]

Sounds good

Anyone else want to squad up? Auric QP/Mael

[silent wigeon]

so do people not play gun psyker out of respect or because people actually find it difficult?

[vague furnace]

What's the brst tactical axe varient and blessings?

[robust jacinth]

Wym? Gun psyker is played pretty often.

honestly if anything is contributing to less gunpsyker being played it's the release of columnus 2 with lmb spam staff

[radiant frigate]

or realization that the only thing it has going for it is force swords and assail

[molten musk]

Would a duelling sword with everything at 80%, but 60% damage be worth crafting with, or is that just too low a tradeoff

[robust jacinth]

of all the things you could drop, why damage?

are you a tannonite?

[molten musk]

Just a complete vegtable of a noob thinking maybe the rest make up for it

[marble crater]

What's a tannonite?

Cleave damage/defense is dump stat for dueling swords

I want 80 mobility to zoom zoom zoom

[robust jacinth]

basically the drop order is defences, mobility, then cleave stats

[robust jacinth]

a tanner lindberg enjoyer. (not many braincells)

[marble crater]

Ah of course

[ashen trellis]

might be out of the loop cause I didn't play for a bit but how do you even acquire anything else other than mkII DS cause that's the only thing Brunt gives you

[broken carbon]

tannerite*

[marble crater]

In your loadout you can change the mark of the weapon you have selected in the top right

[ashen trellis]

oh shit nice, thanks

[marble crater]

[marble crater]

Did they change something about surge targeting or charging? It feels different than I remember

[haughty star]

Idk gunpsyker with recon 12 is pretty devastating

[radiant frigate]

which is available to vet and zealot too and as such is not unique to psyker

[haughty star]

Yeah but zealot objectively doesn't use it as well as psykwr and vet doesn't have funny floaty darts to help horde clear

Gunker almost does as well as vet with recon 12 and vmkv specifically and has all the other stuff it brings to the table. It's fun and valid even if some don't like it

[haughty star]

Cleave is first dump for mkiv and mkii

And cleave is defense for 5

You lose like 5 damage on a unarmored target lol it's so hilariously unimpactful it hurts

[robust jacinth]

was just speaking on a general rule

[little kayak]

I think it actually peaks at higher dps than Veteran too with gaze

[haughty star]

That'd be a really hard metric to line up

Idk @buoyant maple has probably tested it

[haughty star]

Dump cleave for 2 and 4 and try to get a 70/70 split on 5

For defense and mobility

[nocturne dust]

It probably doesn't, vet gets a lot of nodes that just add damage

and he has exe stance

[haughty star]

The whole precision bonus stuff from psyker and scriers exponential nature i could see coming close but idk about outdps vet

[plucky flax]

No you're just noob

[mossy oyster]

agent toxic

[plucky flax]

Selfish in war

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, a single vet blue node doubles our heavy stance aura and affects base damage

[split lance]

I’m so proud rn

[nocturne dust]

There's also Marksman's Focus for Vet, the keystone is actually really dangerous, it's just a pain to use. Like running DD with perfectionism.

[plucky flax]

Sup

[split lance]

Hey beautiful

[plucky flax]

Chilling in bed watching outdoor boys and fall asleep soon

[strong gulch]

There was, maybe still is, a bug with flurry and surge. Partial charges weren't charging faster.

But I don't remember at this point. All of the surge bugs are blending togther.

[split lance]

I’m at gym. I’ve been sick, third session back and I’m weak as shit

[buoyant maple]

I didn’t test scrier’s gaze dps

[plucky flax]

Nice one keep going bro. Tomorrow is my first run after latest tattoo

Gonna be slow and painful

[split lance]

Hell yeah.

[plucky flax]

Took 5 days off that's way too long

[split lance]

Yeah me rn. Almost failing shit that should otherwise fucking fly

[plucky flax]

Lifting is hard. Run I don't mind if I'm hurt and go super slow. Jogger

[haughty star]

Wait are you referring to longshot?

[nocturne dust]

iirc it's called superiority

it's on the left bottom part

[haughty star]

Oh yeah I never get down to that one cuz you tax yourself out of all the necessary melee points

[nocturne dust]

Taking melee nodes for a recon build is a choice

[haughty star]

But everything that puts together gunker effects melee too

[nocturne dust]

I find recon has such ammo that its better to just focus ranged on vet

[nocturne dust]

because gunker needs it

and even then, vet probably still has better melee by accident honestly

when you focus ranged nodes

superiority works on melee, you got the rending and monstrosity nodes in the center, you have vet toughness with iron will to just absorb hits like a mfer

Like I'm not saying gunker is weak but vet is vet

[buoyant maple]

I think Vraks V scales more dps on psyker than veteran

Well, comparing a gun psyker with a hybrid vet anyway

[haughty star]

Yee

[patent mango]

clearly psyker needs more melee nodes

[buoyant maple]

If comparing to exe stance + MF then veteran scales higher in damage but basically nobody plays like that

In terms of ammo concerns uh

I don’t think survivalist is necessary most of the time so vet has equal ammo capacity to psyker

[patent mango]

ig if charged strike gets buffed a lot that'd be an extra melee node

[buoyant maple]

Vet melee is a strange one

Because there’re only really 3 types of veteran melee choices

[marble crater]

So I'm not just imagining it, that's good. Definitely feels off and I'm not just a noob as Agent Toxic would suggest

[patent mango]

vet can be weirdly tanky lol

[haughty star]

Something like this? Would maybe out dps psyker

I've played like this before tho and it's not fun lol

[buoyant maple]

1. The builds that play knife
2. The builds that can afford a Rashad
3. The builds that can’t afford a Rashad

[buoyant maple]

This is pretty bad

[verbal thistle]

path,does vet melee compare to psyker melee

*in dps term

[patent mango]

on vet i just go psword and then get bored cause its a repetitive wep imo

[haughty star]

I was just going for all the ranged nodes in relationship to outdpsing gunker on solely gun

[buoyant maple]

Higher damage, equal/faster attack speed, worse stamina management

[haughty star]

And yes I agree lol

[buoyant maple]

But I think melee for psyker is like

There’re 3 types of psyker melee

[patent mango]

ds force and the rare knife

[buoyant maple]

1. You poke armor & boss
2. You horde clear
3. You run

[ripe obsidian]

I enjoy poking crushers in the face, yes.

[haughty star]

Yeah i always use my melee as a supplementary tool

[marble crater]

4. You mess up your crusher dodge and die

[ripe obsidian]

I've started using assail recently, and it often takes the place of melee, at least against unarmored enemies

[patent mango]

its so weird every time i remember psyker only has 1 unique melee rn

[haughty star]

Example running voidstrike and assail i run ds4 for heavy armor in my face. Elecktro I run illisi for horde clear and so on

[buoyant maple]

If u want to run a meme max dps Vraks V on veteran it’s prob gonna look similar to this

It’s basically meme build tho

[haughty star]

P similar to what i posted yee

[ripe obsidian]

It looks fairly different to me.

[buoyant maple]

Like, no sane person plays like that

At least I hope not

[haughty star]

I've tried it before and it's not fun

[buoyant maple]

And veteran usually has to think about melee a lot more than psyker because vet is not the ranged class anymore

Vet is melee/ranged hybrid

[haughty star]

I feel like existence needs some sort of toughness economy to make it appeal over voice of command or stealth

[buoyant maple]

That’s easy, u play Boltgun

[haughty star]

Stelf is a hard pick because point investment but that's another thing entirely

[marble crater]

Existence

[buoyant maple]

Boltgun exe stance is prob top/2nd highest damage build on veteran

[patent mango]

i think to balance the game out psyker should get bolter

[haughty star]

Existance*

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[patent mango]

it'd be a massive buff to perilous assault

lmfao

i mean it would be fun too

[haughty star]

I mean they stole our dueling sword from us

[patent mango]

exactly

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-why-shouldnt-i-lotr-bilbo-bilbo-why-shouldnt-i-why-shouldnt-i-lord-of-the-rings-gif-17096479

[orchid ibex]

is battle meditation a bad idea on gunker to spread out the duration of scrier's some?

[buoyant maple]

I want more interesting melee choices for both vet & psyker

[haughty star]

Like 5 points isn't a huge difference lol

[patent mango]

imo psyker has like 3 proper melee choices

[haughty star]

I just run d claw on vet cuz I'm out of ideas for it

[patent mango]

and 1 is just for mobility (knife)

[haughty star]

But I'm trying sword tonight

[patent mango]

psyker melee options are just really sad rn

[buoyant maple]

Start thinking abt these categories for vet builds and see which one u fit in the most

1. The builds that play knife
2. The builds that can afford a Rashad
3. The builds that can’t afford a Rashad

[haughty star]

I'm gonna try to make that stelf wep specjslist we hammered out last night

Spent all of my grampappy event money on upgrading p sword and db

[nocturne dust]

kinda true, but only for staffker

Gunker is very much a hybrid

[buoyant maple]

That’s abt as close as it gets for hybrid

[haughty star]

If by hybrid you mean assailing the fuck out of everything and occasionally meleeing

[buoyant maple]

But it’s still assailing more than meleeing most of the time

[patent mango]

clearly we need dual force swords

[nocturne dust]

Eh, you're still resorting to melee very often.

[patent mango]

i dont even use assail for gunker

[haughty star]

Something which vet has 0 options to compare to

[nocturne dust]

You'll get a force knife in 12 months and like it

[patent mango]

thats like the only force weapon that would actually be disappointing

[haughty star]

Bruh they go together like peanut butter and pickles

[buoyant maple]

Yea vet doesn’t get to assail people
Vet will just axe everything

[patent mango]

lmfao

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

help!!!!!!!!!!

[nocturne dust]

Excuse me?

[haughty star]

What?

[patent mango]

where?

[nocturne dust]

You think peanut butter goes on pickles?

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh I'd try peanut butter and pickles. Chocolate and pickles is better tho

[haughty star]

You don't?

[buoyant maple]

Rashad on psyker also very real and very fun

[patent mango]

peanut butter on pizza

[nocturne dust]

Yes.

[buoyant maple]

I play an extremely cursed psyker build now with Rashad + EK

[patent mango]

rashad feels underhwelming on psyker

[haughty star]

Legit still never had a Rashad in my hands in all my 600 something on darktide

[buoyant maple]

Because u need 10% atk speed for it

[nocturne dust]

Rashad doesn't need the damage boosts, lol

[clear heath]

Any of you guys wanna join for a game?

[patent mango]

i always got 10% attack speed its peak

[nocturne dust]

It still feels meh.

[haughty star]

I can in about 45

[buoyant maple]

What perks did u run

[haughty star]

I like illisi and ds4 I'm so basic it hurts

[nocturne dust]

I can't even remember rn, lmao

[patent mango]

i do feel psyker gets heavily incentivized to only use these 2

[nocturne dust]

Probably flak, lol

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/cappys-nft-cappys-cappys-one-of-us-one-of-us-cappys-sei-gif-10943681618443699439

[haughty star]

Just smooth playing weapons imo

They feel good

[buoyant maple]

Psyker Rashad I think needs unarmored + flak?

[patent mango]

the other classes i feel most work out

[buoyant maple]

For bruiser breakpoints

Then u basically have “veteran at home”

[haughty star]

I remember hearing that yeah

[nocturne dust]

No? The multiple damage buffs like DD and Scrier's should easily reach that, no?

[thorn cedar]

not anymore with maelific momentum either

[nocturne dust]

oh yeah, and MM

[buoyant maple]

I don’t play DD + scrier’s because I run EK staff

[nocturne dust]

Then that's a staffker and not a Rashad Psyker

[buoyant maple]

I said I play a cursed build with Rashad + EK lol

[nocturne dust]

The axe is there for morale support

[buoyant maple]

Nah, the axe is there to kill horde

[nocturne dust]

I mean, just shriek

unless

are you using bubble

[haughty star]

Yee ek needs horde kill for when perilous and shriek don't quite do the job

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

i feel if psykuh got like 1-2 more good melee nodes it'd work out so well

[buoyant maple]

No

[nocturne dust]

+100% crit chance

[haughty star]

It'll never be "mainable" but why the fuck would you with assail and shit lol

[nocturne dust]

Nah, meleeker could totally go full melee with the right nodes added

[haughty star]

But literally why

[patent mango]

melee psyker isnt too far off from being good really

just a bit more

[nocturne dust]

Just add iron will and some stupid melee damage boost

[haughty star]

Psyker melee is already really good for what you use it for

https://tenor.com/view/dean-winchester-supernatural-relatable-relatablemoods-gif-7719768255809338997

[buoyant maple]

U mostly need a melee that can quickly kill everything in the game solo if u go melee build

[patent mango]

literally just move souldrinker to the left and add unchained melee dmg based on peril talent

lmao

[nocturne dust]

I want to hit things with my sword

[haughty star]

Than do so?

[patent mango]

i just wanna stab stuff

but i want it to actually be a good glass cannon melee build

[haughty star]

Dd and scriers aren't enough for that? Not to mention all the soulflame interactions and other fun shit

[ashen trellis]

is there any way to make assail surge staff right click a legit build

[patent mango]

ehhh i feel dd and scriers buff guns more than melee

[haughty star]

Yeah you just lose out on psyk aura

[nocturne dust]

My issue with meleeker is actually durability and speed, not damage

When you're trying to main melee, speed is very important

[patent mango]

seriously just 1-2 nodes away from a proper melee psyker

[buoyant maple]

Speed as in attack speed?

[nocturne dust]

move speed

[haughty star]

20 percent movement speed off scriers and cracked out speed from dd isn't enough?

[buoyant maple]

Why

What melee weapon are u considering for this hypothetical melee psyker

[clear heath]

scriers psyker is so fast already

[haughty star]

Its like the zealot button

[patent mango]

except zealot doesnt need to press a button

they're just like that always lmao

[nocturne dust]

Mmmmmm I don't think it's that fast, and it's not up all the time, and the moment you run out of stamina you're huffing and puffing

[patent mango]

mettle dd and scriers are inconsistent speed buffs

[nocturne dust]

yeh

[patent mango]

mettle and dd work better for ranged too

[haughty star]

Scriers has literally almost 100 percent uptime lol wth

[buoyant maple]

Psyker sprint speed 5m/s (4m/s walk)
Duelling sword is like +0.8m/s

So u have 5.8m/s sprint, 4.9m/s OOS sprint

That’s not slow

[nocturne dust]

the move speed buff isn't active during the lingering effect

[clear heath]

mettle is pretty easy to keep up on any build that considers taking it

[nocturne dust]

now take any weapon that isn't DS or knife

[buoyant maple]

What’s illisi’s sprint modifier again

[patent mango]

if fatshark locks in they could just add iron arm as a keystone

like +0.20? i forgo

[nocturne dust]

I ain't at my pc to check

[clear heath]

I don't think psyker is particularly slow when unbuffed

and it goes really hard when buffed

[patent mango]

a keystone for melee builds would make it all work out

[buoyant maple]

Ok so

[strong gulch]

Illisi movent is slow and not huge dodges, but it's not the worst.

[haughty star]

A blitz that's just a ghost greatsword that one taps anything but bosses every 20 seconds

[nocturne dust]

You notice it a lot more when trying to main melee, scattered enemies are just a pain

[haughty star]

[buoyant maple]

Illisi is +0.27 at 80% mobility
So 5.27m/s sprint, 4.535m/s OOS sprint

It’s still alright

[patent mango]

gimme a blitz that just teleports me forward

[buoyant maple]

Veteran with Rashad is like 5.34m/s sprint, 4.67m/s OOS sprint

[west flax]

alternate universe loner zealot

[clear heath]

Scattered enemies are kinda annoying on any class except zealot with FotF tbh. I didn't feel like it was a unique problem to psyker

[patent mango]

zealot but you get 1 shot by everything 🔥

[west flax]

oh, you mean

loner zealot

[patent mango]

just press f

[west flax]

no, that's VoC vet already

[wintry niche]

Just did my first Damnation 💀

[nocturne dust]

It's worse on Psyker because of the lower movement speed + lower durability

which is why my issue was two parts

[clear heath]

The lower durability thing i get

[buoyant maple]

Movement speed is not comparatively much slower, TDR I can understand tho

[clear heath]

but is our speed even actually lower?

[buoyant maple]

It’s not, I just sent numbers above

[nocturne dust]

But your numbers were lower for Psyker

[clear heath]

Mettle is also just always up except at the very start of the fight

[buoyant maple]

Illisi is +0.27 at 80% mobility
So 5.27m/s sprint, 4.535m/s OOS sprint

[buoyant maple]

Yea, by 0.07m/s for psyker without any move speed bonuses

A single mettle tick sends u above veteran

[clear heath]

idk i also just play low mobility weapons on zealot sometimes so half the time my psyker is just genuinely faster by default

[buoyant maple]

Veteran doesn’t get move speed bonuses unless u specifically go for them

[patent mango]

they just gotta move souldrinker to the left and add a mobility for melee builds on the right

[buoyant maple]

Which usually doesn’t happen

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but veteran has the durability

[patent mango]

veteran can just tdr stack like crazy

[buoyant maple]

Yea and I agree

I can understand the TDR aspect

[nocturne dust]

My point is two-fold: Psyker has neither movespeed or durability. One or the other would solve my complaint.

[patent mango]

i think its more that it'd be cooler if psyker was more mobility focused than just tdr like vet

so i'd rather have mobility than durability

[nocturne dust]

Like, if Meleeker was at base as fast as knife on all weapons I would not complain, lol

[wintry niche]

Or actually be glass canon

[buoyant maple]

I don’t think psyker needs crazy TDR because the general damage output already beats every other class

The glass cannon schtick can stay

I’d much prefer if like, deflector was baseline

[nocturne dust]

Reactive tanking best tanking

[buoyant maple]

Better yet

Nerf uncanny significantly

So you could actually run smth like slaughterer + deflector on illisi without looking dumb

Solve 2 problems at once

[nocturne dust]

but then you would need to buff illisi probably

[buoyant maple]

For what

[clear heath]

you basically have durability and speed with scriers if you have EE. It's really only an issue outside of scriers uptime

[patent mango]

just give psyker melee rending on a new talent node instead lmao

[nocturne dust]

I mean Illisi doesn't feel great without uncanny

[buoyant maple]

Nah, the less rending the better

[nocturne dust]

but I hate charging so maybe that's why

[buoyant maple]

Try slaughterer + executor

[nocturne dust]

+10,000% rending

[buoyant maple]

Trust

[nocturne dust]

big boss damage

[clear heath]

I really wish deflector was just part of illisi without the blessing

[nocturne dust]

Deflector should just be psyker passive, along with KD

Reactive block class

[wintry niche]

Anyone else having a lot of disconnects?

[nocturne dust]

but then no deflector

[patent mango]

if we have peril dmg absorption it'd be like deflector but always

[orchid ibex]

yep

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but I think that's more boring

[patent mango]

i just miss unchained tbh

[radiant frigate]

anyway force greatsword when?

[patent mango]

that'd fix everything too

[radiant frigate]

then i can play this class again

[wintry niche]

The real question right there

[orchid ibex]

after their winter break

[patent mango]

force gs just needs to do so much damage it works as a melee glass cannon

[wintry niche]

https://tenor.com/view/longsword-gif-22116335

[patent mango]

lemme do a horizontal warp slash to clear out an entire horde

[nocturne dust]

no need for movement speed when you cleave the map in half

[patent mango]

the movement speed wouldnt be too important since it would have crazy range as a gs tbh

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/vergil-gif-25306498

[patent mango]

force gs should also have a stronger push it'd be funny

[orchid ibex]

is it worth taking battle meditation on a scrier's gun build to just extend its duration a bit?

[radiant frigate]

TTS better

both together overkill

[nocturne dust]

BM is eh, yeah.

[orchid ibex]

thanks

[nocturne dust]

I only take BM on my crazy Scrierstrike build

because I have to for talent point cost reasons 😭

[clear heath]

i take bm on a gunker build that just doesn't care about perfect timing that much

just to path down there

[orchid ibex]

yeah, i typically don't use it either. i haven't found a gunker build that feels good yet though lol

[patent mango]

i like gunker with deimos otherwise idk

[clear heath]

an average of 1% peril quelled per enemy is not very good, at best it's a gimmick to last a bit longer through hordes.

[radiant frigate]

i want to use it with illisi but then i meet a singular bulwark or crusher and go ??

ok so now what

[clear heath]

hell i might just drop it and take perfect timing anyways for stronger assails

[nocturne dust]

I don't like normal gunker builds much so here's mine

[patent mango]

illisi just has the most boring combos imo

[radiant frigate]

h1l2 feels good idk

[clear heath]

pray your vraks iag crits enough to kill the crusher

[patent mango]

if illisi had like at least 1 overhead on h2 or something

it'd be nice......

[radiant frigate]

it also feels good to deliver charged up sweeps

[radiant frigate]

yes..

[buoyant maple]

See how it does first, then decide if u want to keep executor

[patent mango]

overhead with massive special dmg

[nocturne dust]

Me taking Illisi/Vraks/Assail and just praying someone else has an answer to crushers

[buoyant maple]

I don’t think illisi is good vs carapace and unyielding even with uncanny

[orchid ibex]

that's mostly what i use minus a few differences actually. thanks

[nocturne dust]

It's not.

[clear heath]

yeah it's not

[radiant frigate]

if they can add overhead special heavies to chainswords, why not illisussy

[patent mango]

they're saving it for force greatsword!!!!!! 🔥

[radiant frigate]

real

[patent mango]

this is what i run but with smite for cdr

[buoyant maple]

Ya then u prob don’t need uncanny

[patent mango]

and one with the warp instead

[nocturne dust]

I use uncanny because it helps make the weapon feel better against most targets, not just Ogryns

[radiant frigate]

uncanny would be much less required if things did damage to carapace

[nocturne dust]

Haven't tried executor tho

[patent mango]

psyker just needs melee rending in base kit clearly

[buoyant maple]

Nah

[hearty wolf]

rending aura

[buoyant maple]

Turbo nerf uncanny

[nocturne dust]

(also illisi is my only answer to crushers in gunker build, lol)

[radiant frigate]

rending blitz

[patent mango]

smite but it just strips away armor

[nocturne dust]

I'm sorry did you say more rending?

[patent mango]

rending!!!!!

[orchid ibex]

@nocturne dust do you take soul stealer for assail kills mainly?

[buoyant maple]

Nerf uncanny to like 20% at max stacks

[nocturne dust]

Yes, you constantly switch between assail and gun/melee

[patent mango]

make uncanny strike be a psyker passive

[radiant frigate]

yes and deimos does that job better but then ds4 exists which does much the same but more mobile amd OOPS now assail is the only psyker part of the build

[clear heath]

honestly just waste a couple mags of ammo for crushers if you're using illisi on gunker

[radiant frigate]

agony

[clear heath]

it's not particularly good but it works

[nocturne dust]

I want a shrapnel staff that summons a storm of shrapnel that follows targets and causes bleed and rending to every enemy nearby

[patent mango]

oh god

[patent mango]

shrapnel staff that follows hte player

[nocturne dust]

I conceived of this staff in a dream

The Psyker way

[patent mango]

finally melee staff

[nocturne dust]

[patent mango]

build up 300 shrapnel before going to punch the horde

[radiant frigate]

hurts.. why does a dream hurt?

[nocturne dust]

That was actually kinda my conception, you would use it as a melee support tool

[patent mango]

give psyker a syphon life staff that gets golden toughness

[buoyant maple]

I think psyker needs a strong general purpose melee that’s ok at everything but not best at any specific thing

[patent mango]

then u can melee better

[wintry niche]

What the fuck is damnation even...

[clear heath]

vraks iag on crushers feels like a waste but it's not as bad as what i've seen stubber ogryns try to do

[buoyant maple]

Because every other class has a strong generalist melee weapon

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword!

[river garden]

Which guns does gun psyker want to use for the head explode upgrade? Or do they not care about head explode at all

[radiant frigate]

use assail

[patent mango]

force greatsword is a reoccuring character in my dreams

[radiant frigate]

save sanity

[buoyant maple]

Can be

[radiant frigate]

save ammo

[patent mango]

lemme cleave a crusher in half vertically

special so strong it cuts bulwark shields

[buoyant maple]

I truly believe that psyker would benefit a lot from a strong generalist melee

[radiant frigate]

the lack of force greatsword drives me to play vet

[patent mango]

lack of force gs drives me to just kinda rot instead

[radiant frigate]

so i can have psword

[west flax]

just skip gunker altogether then

[radiant frigate]

the rot consumes

[river garden]

[patent mango]

lack of force gs is the reason the nurgle cult exists in atoma

[prime elk]

Rashad

[patent mango]

force rashad!!!!!

[buoyant maple]

Rashad on psyker is like half the effectiveness vs carapace & unyielding compared to veteran

[prime elk]

It’s not terrible still though

[radiant frigate]

tfw no rending

[west flax]

https://tenor.com/view/fall-seven-deadly-sins-axe-escanor-gif-15115301

[nocturne dust]

lack of force gs is why the Emperor hasn't awoken to save us all yet

[buoyant maple]

6 hits to kill crusher, no thx

[patent mango]

exactly

fatshark is dooming the imperium

[buoyant maple]

It’s a horde clear tool

[prime elk]

I think it was 4 with SG or something

[radiant frigate]

force gs would remove tge cult immediately

[patent mango]

1 swing and its done

i do think it'd be hilarious if force gs had a super high peril cost but extremely strong special

[buoyant maple]

It’d be so funny if they release force greatsword and give it mk3 Evicerator H1’s cleave damage distribution

[patent mango]

if they release force gs and its bad im negative reviewing lmfao

[nocturne dust]

Reasons to not release force GS:

[radiant frigate]

friendship ended with psyker forever if true

[patent mango]

if they dont release it at all im negative reviewing darktide 2 too

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark:

[buoyant maple]

Friendship with psyker in the first place can be considered heresy in the imperium

[patent mango]

i'd go back to v2 unchained

or just necro cause they can also melee well actually

kinda crazy how nice sienna classes are

maybe someday psyker catches up

[wintry niche]

I want to kill hordes with my brain, how about link up brain rupture after 0.5s smiting?

[sturdy reef]

If only force chainswords were a thing

Ill settle for force halberd/GS tho

Do it GW. Cowards

Force chainsword special that applies max soulblaze stacks

[patent mango]

just make the teeth out of assail crystals

[lethal lagoon]

How long is the event going on for, anyone know?

[strong gulch]

u got like a week left

idk the exact days left

[lethal lagoon]

I'll do it this weekend I guess

[strong gulch]

I still need some maps

[lethal lagoon]

I didn't wanna play unti havoc mode came out so it'd be fresh

[fiery stratus]

Seems like it'd be a better idea to play because it'll just be more difficult without practice lol

[strong gulch]

Just smite, it'll be fine.

[fiery stratus]

Tru

[strong gulch]

You want to play some more?