psyker-class

[nocturne dust]

It's a BB build

no assail

[sturdy reef]

oh

[digital hill]

Assail stacks with DD?

Oh

I guess it would.

[sturdy reef]

it stacks DD

[digital hill]

Yeh

[sturdy reef]

it also tends to go for weakspots

[nocturne dust]

Assail does benefit from DD, yes

[sturdy reef]

is it really a BB build

[atomic swan]

If you have BB then you shouldnt struggle for stacking DD...too mush

[sturdy reef]

or a kinetic flayer build

[digital hill]

Im doing a weirdo build right now with assail, but Im missing Kinetic Flayer

;_;

[nocturne dust]

It's for testing how much damage a maxed out BB can do on a crusher, it's not a serious build

[sturdy reef]

ah I see

[digital hill]

Exploding heads on a blaze sword push never fails to get old

[atomic swan]

better than smite and doesnt have any good long range damage to finish off DD target

[sturdy reef]

smite DD

right I need to do that

I must do the cursed forbidden tech

[fluid thistle]

wut DD?

[jovial juniper]

No, as in no marked targets on the Psykhanium
Unless modded

[nocturne dust]

Mods are a pathway to many abilities some consider... unnatural

[atomic swan]

because they dont aggro

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-smile-creepy-creepy-smile-smirk-gif-24584761

[sturdy reef]

itd be so nice to be able to test DD limits without mods

[atomic swan]

you need mod to disable invisibility in psykhanium

then you start testing DD

[sturdy reef]

and spawn a ton of poxwalkers or infected

[nocturne dust]

There should be a mod that lets you control what buffs are active

[sturdy reef]

0 warp res on force sword makes the charge action generate 24 peril

hmmmmm

[jovial juniper]

Ok so
Since Scrier's Precog adds to DD
You could probably have the funniest CIVI around
It would suck once Kinetic Resonance ends

Then you get Psy's Aura

CDR curio

25 - 12%

22

[digital hill]

What's max stamina on a curio? 3?

Pls let it be three.

[jovial juniper]

It's 3 yeah

[digital hill]

Nice.

[nocturne dust]

99

[digital hill]

nooo

[nocturne dust]

[digital hill]

I have so many curios just trying to pull something worthwhile lol. What's toughness?

[nocturne dust]

17%

[digital hill]

Dang.

[nocturne dust]

health is 21%

[sturdy reef]

17 tgh

21 hp

3 stam

[digital hill]

I got a 21 earlier!

[sturdy reef]

1 wound

[nocturne dust]

If the curio's score is 410 or higher, the stat is maxed iirc

[digital hill]

Ahh

[steel flame]

i remember there use to be a bug where you could get a 2 wound relic. but they patched those out way way back

[nocturne dust]

wounds are always max tho

[jovial juniper]

I have like three 21 hp curios

[nocturne dust]

Martyr gaming

https://tenor.com/view/sad-fade-fade-away-disappear-evaporate-gif-16638726229780416323

[digital hill]

So are chances to get max stats on weapons higher if you're level 30/maxed masteries? Because I have an absurd number of staves that are 80s and the 60.

While I can't find anything worthwhile on my alts.

[nocturne dust]

uh, I think so, yeah

Unlocked and Loaded changed some things about it though iirc

[dire orbit]

Yes

[echo root]

3 stamina at 400 or lower rounds down to 2 stamina ingame. Which is annoying. It doesn't round down in meat grinder.

[nocturne dust]

It's not 3 stam at 400 anymore

[ripe obsidian]

I'm trying out assail/voidstrike instead of having smite/voidstrike solely for Psykinetic's Aura

I definitely miss Psykinetic's Aura, but I am finding Assail useful as a thing to throw

Mostly along these lines

[digital hill]

Assail is rad looking lol

Also I appreciate the low effort ability lets me focus on swording

[ripe obsidian]

I'll need to play with it more to figure out exactly when I want to use voidstrike versus Assail. I made a few non-optimal decisions in that last game

[nocturne dust]

Generally, you only pull out assail for spread out enemies

which should be rare if you're good at kiting

At least that's how I use it

[ripe obsidian]

Well, this is my second game using it. D:

[nocturne dust]

I also use knife because I don't really use melee outside mutants and the speed helps with kiting

[ripe obsidian]

I use DS4 because I can't figure out how to use the knife in a way that's fun for me

[nocturne dust]

use knife, spam heavies on single targets and lights on horde

dump pen for max mobility

zoom

https://tenor.com/view/running-running-man-gif-26341322

[sturdy reef]

chain weapons and blaze sword too addicting

[nocturne dust]

iirc I use mk 3

[sturdy reef]

I cant use the poop scraper knife

[nocturne dust]

The other mark is technically better but has more complex combos for marginal improvement if I'm not mistaken

[ripe obsidian]

I'm not sure if I like Empathic Evasion on this build, but I dunno what else I would use the point for

I never ran out of shards, so don't need faster regen

[nocturne dust]

also if you're dumping pen on knife you kinda have to use uncanny to make up for it

[nocturne dust]

Show build

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[sturdy reef]

I will not take this empathic evasion slander

😠

[nocturne dust]

Pwease?

[digital hill]

Smite is weird. is it okay if I just use it for lightning sword

[nocturne dust]

no

charged strike is awful

never use it

[digital hill]

listen.

[nocturne dust]

or you're wasting a talent point

[digital hill]

But.

[nocturne dust]

and I mean a complete waste

[nocturne dust]

like, it does nothing

[digital hill]

But

Electricity and fire?

[nocturne dust]

no stun, no stagger, no extra cleave, barely any damage

[digital hill]

😦

[nocturne dust]

Shock maul

[digital hill]

Im not some barbarian.

[nocturne dust]

Mad talk for someone in blunt-force-electrocution distance

[digital hill]

Im not going to use sus Hadron tech okay.

yeah well

[ripe obsidian]

I did the thing

[digital hill]

Lightning cleave.

[nocturne dust]

That's the only thing we have

[digital hill]

You wait.

Pfft. I am a the warp. and the warp is me.

[nocturne dust]

[digital hill]

I make the fire!

ugh disappointed in that talent if it does nothing.

Back to BB

[nocturne dust]

You could go for solidity or +15 toughness instead of EE I guess. It's whatever though, EE works and isn't necessarily worse.

[ripe obsidian]

Basically the same as my smite build, but with Assail/Malefic Momentum instead of Smite/Psykinetic Aura

Not that I ever use smite, so that was a dead node

[orchid ibex]

Wtf is a poop scraper knife?

[sturdy reef]

combat knife

[digital hill]

Ever wonder why there's no Ogryn sized toilet paper? Poop knife.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I don't feel a need for faster quell. I rarely blow myself up anymore, and in the instances I do, faster quelling isn't likely to help

And more toughness is okay, but eh

I'll keep EE. It's fine

[nocturne dust]

well, the quell speed is more to quell less and not because you blow up 🤷‍♂️

[ripe obsidian]

With VS, I can get a full charge on a one-tick quell

30% faster will still need to quell after each shot

[nocturne dust]

Oh, you're a dirty hard edger

[digital hill]

I try to hover around 80ish for maximum oomph.

[ripe obsidian]

I am usually 70%+ peril, yes

[nocturne dust]

Smh my head, some people can't help themselves

[digital hill]

Exploding aint so bad.

Still waiting for a nurgle beast to eat me right before I explode.

[ripe obsidian]

Weird. One tick of quell w/ solidity is the same as without

Does it just make the quell ticks faster?

'Cause the amount quelled seems identical

[nocturne dust]

yes, it's quell speed, not quell amount... if I'm not mistaken

[ripe obsidian]

Weird.

[digital hill]

Yeah, just tap it with Solidarity

Drops quickly from a touch.

[ripe obsidian]

I figured 30% faster quelling meant 30% more quelled per tick

Not 30% faster ticks

[digital hill]

I definitely struggle without it now.

lol

Many explosions.

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't used solidity on voidstrike in ages

[digital hill]

I like it a lot with the inferno staff.

[ripe obsidian]

I have it on any build where I go Warp Siphon

[orchid ibex]

I gathered that, but why poop scraper?

[sturdy reef]

you're so fast

[nocturne dust]

I use the same build for Shriekstrike, EE included, lol

[sturdy reef]

and there is a knife in BG3 called that as well

[ripe obsidian]

I wonder how much benefit I actually get from Malefic Momentum

Wish I could have Psykinetic's Aura and Assail at the same time. D:

[nocturne dust]

Not a lot

[nocturne dust]

That's how the tree trees

https://tenor.com/view/prince-of-egypt-sacrifices-must-be-made-pharaoh-seti-i-pharaoh-gif-16912373

[sturdy reef]

at least we don't have zealot's inflexibility

[digital hill]

Psyker has been my favorite so far just because I can goof around with the talents.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. I rarely get the sword out except to poke Mutants

[digital hill]

[digital hill]

Sword is life.

[nocturne dust]

Toothpick vs Drug Addict's Weapon of Choice

[ripe obsidian]

If enemies are close enough that melee is my only choice, I probably positioned badly

[digital hill]

Do not understand. Position is inside horde.

It's where the horde is.

[nocturne dust]

Zealot mains

smh my head

[restive slate]

I would love to be a Battle Psyker, closest is with Scryier Gaze but even then probably won't match up with other classes

[digital hill]

Yeah I have fun playing at battle psyker.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, meleeker needs cool stuff like extending their blades with warp magic

[digital hill]

Gaze is really good, and the force push is really cheaty.

Staggers everything.

Potentially exploding head.

[nocturne dust]

so

other than exploding head on one specific modifier

just pushes

[digital hill]

I

[broken carbon]

force sword with an activate special thats an entire different moveset

[digital hill]

have done that for an extended period where I was panicking. Pushed them all into a corner lol

[restive slate]

Once that Force Heavy Sword drops...

[nocturne dust]

[broken carbon]

that turns it into a force greatsword

[digital hill]

Obscurus?!

[nocturne dust]

Maybe that's the force knife

[restive slate]

Space Marine 2 Powersword is that you?

[nocturne dust]

you activate it and suddenly, surprise, force greatsword

[digital hill]

Would be cool to extend reach with it while its empowered.

And set everything on fire, ofc.

[restive slate]

It gets longer when charged

[nocturne dust]

The phallic jokes write themselves.

[restive slate]

Illisi users can already spam charging

[nocturne dust]

The force sword way

[restive slate]

Would it be silly to give Psyker a force halberd?

[slow cloak]

does empowered psionics buff icon bug out?

[nocturne dust]

Not at all.

[nocturne dust]

Not that I recall, but it could always start doing that with Fatshark programming

[slow cloak]

feels like i wasnt getting EP stacks after killing elites

[nocturne dust]

Hm, are you sure it was elites and not specialists?

Should be easy enough to test in the psykh anyway

[ripe obsidian]

A chaos spawn just swept 3 people off a ledge in one go.

What a rude guy

[orchid ibex]

god i wish

[restive slate]

Shout at him to join them

[ripe obsidian]

He didn't partake

[zinc phoenix]

Yes, it’s a huge weapon and the psykers are all built like meth addicts. It’d look more ridiculous than dueling sword zealots

[ornate hamlet]

I was going to say "Emperor", but

[digital hill]

So is the push cooldown meant to decrease as your momentum increases? Or is that a thing unique to the blaze sword, because I was just nonstop back to back pushing without hardly any pause between

[restive slate]

I raise you DUELLING SWORD OGRYN

He holds it like a toothpick with one pinky out

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/drinking-tea-ea-after-meal-cup-of-tea-sip-drink-up-gif-15215146

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/espresso-classy-pinkies-up-sips-tea-sipping-gif-7250101

[sturdy reef]

https://tenor.com/bjjUx.gif

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/lalo-salamanca-sad-happy-to-sad-better-call-saul-gif-138039709594799496

[sturdy reef]

https://tenor.com/uyv6bAGKxSl.gif

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/gustavo-fring-gus-gus-fring-breaking-bad-better-call-saul-gif-11448311391936706592

[sturdy reef]

[ornate hamlet]

how

chat is this real

[digital hill]

Isnt everything

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/ariweather-jerma-jerma985-picmix-kawaii-gif-3873003918965417082

[restive slate]

Whoa it's TF2 scout

[fluid thistle]

does inferno staff do any stacking DoT damage to bosses?

[nocturne dust]

Yes, it applies soulblaze

[steel flame]

they just dont have the blue fire effect for whatever reason

[restive slate]

Inferno staff? Pffft, it's Purgatus, son

[ornate hamlet]

la purga

[spice veldt]

just to be clear, are you referring to only the "push" or are you also referring to the "push-attack", which is the move that occurs whenever you hold down push instead of letting it go immediately?

[sturdy reef]

I came back from release this update, so its inferno to me

[digital hill]

The push

It definitely increases in push..speed..as my peril increases. Until its practically instant.

[ripe obsidian]

Oh jeez. My power flickered and knocked me out of the game. I loaded back in right as everyone else fell over.

I saved them. For my Beloved.

[digital hill]

It shouldn't be +3 at 400 right? Thought it was 410.

[nocturne dust]

Huh, it should be +2

[digital hill]

Just got it from Melk's mystery curios

[nocturne dust]

Did it say +2 when you were buying it?

[sturdy reef]

I have plenty +3's that arent 410

[digital hill]

The mystery curios doesnt show you. It's a mystery.

A surprise!

[sturdy reef]

its as inconsistent as 60/61 for the dump stat limit

[nocturne dust]

well, 420 +3s are normal

[atomic swan]

iirc it needs to be 420
otherwise they are fake

[nocturne dust]

No

410s are +3

It's only 400s that were broken, but I thought they fixed them

[atomic swan]

k

[nocturne dust]

Maybe only some of the 400s are broken? There hasn't been an update since the 400 I saw that was +2

[atomic swan]

i only have 400 and 420+
didnt test about 410

[nocturne dust]

I have 410s, they're +3

I literally took screenshots to prove it to Clad

[summer prairie]

75 rating stamina curios were only broken during a mission though, not in psykhanium

[nocturne dust]

sure

[digital hill]

o.o which ones work

410? 420?! 400!

[nocturne dust]

410 and 420 are both +3 as far as I can tell

some of 400 say +3, while others say +2, apparently

[nocturne dust]

Actually, that's a good point, you should test this and see if it's +2 or +3

[broken carbon]

410 display as +3 in psykanium, and +2 in game

they r complete bait

[summer prairie]

if there are 400s that are +3, I highly doubt a 410 can be +2

[nocturne dust]

Ugh, I really don't want to open Darktide just to test again

[broken carbon]

400s are the same

they display as +3 but are +2 in game

[summer prairie]

I've 400s and I'm certain that they weren't 75 base rating before the rating change

and at least on a solo server they still show up as +3

[wind spruce]

Perception is a fickle thing. I always feel like I'm swinging faster when scriers is at higher stacks but I definitely ain't

[digital hill]

Nah man, it definitely do.

It's kind of nuts

Not sure if it's meant to do this lol

I was just pushing nonstop and triggering the brain burst on groups.

[nocturne dust]

Well, for one, Kinetic Flayer doesn't trigger on pushes

unless you mean force pushes

[digital hill]

yes

[nocturne dust]

Hm, well if your experience is true it doesn't sound like intended behavior

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/O2pWeCx-hAA

You're wrong

[wind spruce]

Video or it never happened

[nocturne dust]

Can't believe my meme video came in handy

You can see in the video I have 5 blocks of stamina despite using a 410 curio and DS4 having a base of 2

and no talent is adding stamina

[split lance]

i havent played in 2 or so months

anyone wanna carry me

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-hitting-markiplier-gif-23574136

[split lance]

[nocturne dust]

..... 🤔

fiiiiiineeee

[split lance]

bet

lemme boot the game

is ranked out yet

[nocturne dust]

Havoc isn't ranked

and no, it's not

[split lance]

oopsies i ahve to update

[nocturne dust]

lmao

[split lance]

5 gigs

ok is done

booting up

[split lance]

were there any buffs/nerfs?

[nocturne dust]

uuuuuuuhhhhhhh

[split lance]

any that matter

[nocturne dust]

not that I recall

Well, mettle is broken on purg/trauma

[regal jasper]

Yall should play webfishing frfr

[fiery stratus]

I considered getting it at one point

[regal jasper]

Its like darltide but nothing at all like it

Like not even close to darktide

[fiery stratus]

needs more nurgle beast vomit

[regal jasper]

But look at my character he is awesome

[regal jasper]

Zur pfp goes way hard holy

[fiery stratus]

so does the deck

[regal jasper]

I recognize that beautiful man anywhere

[fiery stratus]

my god people hate it

[regal jasper]

Mine is actually ass rn

Land problem

Or just i had a huge ass skill issue

[fiery stratus]

i need to overhaul mine abit, probably get fetches and whatnot

[regal jasper]

Damn the link dont work

[regal jasper]

Would you want to see mine?

Can dm it

[fiery stratus]

sure

in a game on vt2 atm

[regal jasper]

Real

[fiery stratus]

@regal jasper definitely a lot different from mine lol. Mine is pretty much all stax pieces lol

[split lance]

@nocturne dust ngl

that was a lil boring

which is sad

bc i like this game

[nocturne dust]

I mean 🤷‍♂️ we had a bolter vet instantly nailing everything

[split lance]

he played so slow

tho

it was annoying

i think i just wanna speedrun lmao

[nocturne dust]

Lol, be like me and take mobility-maxed knife

zoomies

[split lance]

thanks for the game

but i think ima hop off

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

im watching house

and im addicted

[nocturne dust]

I should probably sleep now

[split lance]

at least i know im not too washed lmao

[quartz barn]

Sleep deprivation gang

[nocturne dust]

Too be fair you were using EK

[split lance]

whats EK

[nocturne dust]

the staff, electrokinetic

[split lance]

oh

ye

its just fun

i mean

itd be the same with purgh

or trauma

im bad with vs

but id still try

lol

[nocturne dust]

The true test is running gunker without vraks

[split lance]

i dont even have vraks

but i did use recon

[nocturne dust]

Mostly because of all the swapping you have to do

and muscle memory

[split lance]

tbf i dont have any muscle memory from gunker lol

i had fun with bistol

but thats with shriek not sg

[nocturne dust]

Still gunker, really

[sturdy reef]

gunker has a few good weapons to choose

[regal jasper]

Yeah i at first wanted a spirit tribal but once i couldn’t find a good commander i chose enchantment instead

[split lance]

i also didnt have any game sound lol

[sturdy reef]

vraks is wasy too ammo hungry imo

[nocturne dust]

lmao

[regal jasper]

The samwise and lulu aren’t in the deck anymore tho they actively didn’t do much

[nocturne dust]

For gunker? You just use assail to conserve ammo and only pull out vraks for elites

Works completely fine

[nocturne dust]

Hopefully that explains the nettings

[sturdy reef]

scuffed

[split lance]

look at this

[sturdy reef]

lucky af

[nocturne dust]

lol, I didn't even notice you getting launched

[split lance]

i was so mad

i was ready to quit out

[nocturne dust]

Anyway, I'm going to get to sleep... hopefully. Cya 👋

[fiery stratus]

@regal jasper A couple of very good cards for zur himself are diplomatic immunity and shielded by faith. Shroud and indestructible, and he can get them from his ability. If you can swing it, necropotence is an expensive card but is kind of insane, also can be brought out by him.

[regal jasper]

Oh huge

Ill look into them

[fiery stratus]

Hes a big target by his nature, even if your deck isnt focused on being toxic people will target lol

[regal jasper]

Real lol

I have a deck with fynn in it and the second i play him im instantly the target

He isn’t even the commander nor do i have alot of death touch

[fiery stratus]

Oh yeah, just being deathtouch, people see it and don't like it lol

zur is generally used for getting lots of nasty things to the field for zero effort, so people want that gone or not out if possible lol. Mine is built so that if he stays, its really bad, but hes not needed, at all.

[regal jasper]

Yeah

I havent used zur much

[fiery stratus]

Infect is a big target with fynn

[regal jasper]

The spirits have kinda kept me afloat enough without playing him

I have the fynn in a gorm and virtus deck

So not only do i deal half your health if you get hit by virtus you get 2 poison

[fiery stratus]

Lol yeah people don't like that

[split lance]

goodnight bbg

[regal jasper]

Add some proliferating and oh boy

[fiery stratus]

phyresis is another good one for zur

A lot of people build him to be equippable with the enchantments he grabs, then slap phyresis on for 10+ infect

[fluid thistle]

Is soulblaze overall weak versus Carapace units?

[fiery stratus]

yes

Most things are weak against carapace unfortunately

[regal jasper]

Jesus

[fluid thistle]

fair enough

[regal jasper]

I feel like my zur is pretty mild compared to others

[fiery stratus]

1000%

[regal jasper]

Even at magic con alot of people who used zur were alot scarier than mine

[fiery stratus]

Oh for sure hes like a top level toxic commander

[regal jasper]

I used my grist hunger tide

Still didn’t feel like ending

Enough*

[fiery stratus]

Ah yeah, I've seen that one. Never played against it

[regal jasper]

I milled every creature one game

Gave me an insect for each

My grist has like 20 loyalty

[fiery stratus]

Lol thats great

[regal jasper]

Then I returned all creatures from graveyard to top of library and started over

I won by everyone else conceding

[fiery stratus]

Lmao

The ol' 20 minutes of process per turn scoop

[regal jasper]

It was so fun

Magic con did remind me of how much i hate eldrazi tho

I took photos of 3 turns

[fiery stratus]

See if i ever went to an event like that i'd probably only end up playing zur

My zur doesn't win any games, in fact its not made to

Its just there to make you sit for 3 hours 🙂

[regal jasper]

I used most of my decks

I think the only deck i have that i didn’t really use was my witherbloom deck

Its been in “wip” stage since strixhaven

[fiery stratus]

I haven't even built a deck since like last kamigawa

[regal jasper]

Im working on like 3 decks rn

All of them awful

Squirrel tribal, lizard tribal, and counter/landfall hell

[fiery stratus]

Lizards idk

[regal jasper]

Gev is fun

[fiery stratus]

Squirrels can actually do some busted shit with infinites

landfall can go nuts if not stopped lol

[regal jasper]

Im using chorus of conclave for the landfall

Its funky but works well

Gev will just kill you by pings of me throwing lizards at you

And squirrel goes actually nuts

I have squirrel deck in arena

[fiery stratus]

Never got much into arena, never cared much for standard. Even the version of commander in it is meh imo

the tokens be crazy

[regal jasper]

Yeah im not a super big fan

[fiery stratus]

one of my friends showed me some of the arena meta decks, shits kinda crazy

[regal jasper]

But it lets me test out deck ideas without spending money

[regal jasper]

Arena is so weird

Cuz on one hand no sol ring

[fiery stratus]

lmao

we way past that point

[regal jasper]

On the other hand it visualizes a full krenko

And that shit gets insane

[fiery stratus]

There so much other busted shit, like putting the fucking power 9 in your deck, why do you need sol ring anyway lmao

[regal jasper]

My 2 mana

I need it

[fiery stratus]

need my 3 colored mana for 0 from my free black lotus in my commander deck

[regal jasper]

Ok i see your point

[fiery stratus]

lmao

[regal jasper]

Its just weird not seeing it

And the fake cards in arena

[fiery stratus]

the ones with no testing lol

[regal jasper]

Some of them piss me off that they arent real

[fiery stratus]

just dumpem out there fuggit

[regal jasper]

There is a squirrel that makes a chitter spitter whenever it attacks

And puts a counter on every card named chitter spitter

Id kill for that

Oh shit i gotta wake up in 4 hours

Goodnight really epic and cool zur user

[fiery stratus]

See ya, have a good night

[wind spruce]

Suck it, lose-... Nice!

[split lance]

lmao

exactly

straight from anger to pure ecstasy

[echo root]

This looked like standard from ~2012 until I saw the sol ring.

[left basin]

i want bosskilling weapons for psyker that aren't tobuscus 5

[quartz barn]

Beam staff could fix that

Problem is that most boss dmg comes from either high single target dmg or constant precision hits, but psyker barely has those

[left basin]

high single target damage bazoink

[plucky flax]

Burn with burga.

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/gag-gif-17244252139129953341

the cheese stick is the burga

[radiant frigate]

that's me

[left basin]

look, i get dots

but i don't want to

it's as a "bosskilling option" as recon las

yes it do

but no

kalimbus 5 is gunker, so it's heresy

[radiant frigate]

boss damage options be like
ds4
🤢 knife
vraks iag
infernus lasguns
🅱️urgertus

[plucky flax]

Full charge burga with blaze away on monster is kinda gud.

The direct damage though

[left basin]

the best "feeling" damage option for me is bb spam

[radiant frigate]

friendship ended with brain burst
now krak grenade is my best friend

[left basin]

but i hate bb spam with a rage

and with a angy

and with a unhappy

[radiant frigate]

it's alright during the 10s after pressing f

after that? suffering

[left basin]

yeah

epbb with purg is alright

does anyone have any jellot builds for crucisifying

i asked in zealot chat at least several times and they pointed me to random shit not concerning builds with crucis

i got one but i feel like i missed something

[digital hill]

I hate and love BB. One, team mates unless they're vets never call out specials/elites so Im standing there with brain bursting glow ready to go annnd I tag some poor dredg

[pine shore]

I think wildfire is ass but people in here think otherwise. What build gets the most impact out of wildfire. I want to test something with and without wildfire. Purgatus shriek seems obvious, but I thought I'd better ask just in case.

Who was there yesterday

@haughty star ?

[radiant frigate]

i guess blaze trauma benefits too

[pine shore]

My point was that especially on purgatus shriek wildfire is bad. It's not as bad on fire trauma since fire trauma doesn't inflict as many stacks as often and stacks are limited to 6? or was it 8?

[raven mountain]

6 iirc

[pine shore]

yes, 6

[raven mountain]

If you are full-spraying, inferno doesn't work as well with wildfire because you have really good coverage already. But any stacks that transfer are still stacks you don't need to add to get to higher numbers.

[red knot]

ugh man tryna get this stupid cliff hanger penance done

[raven mountain]

Wildfire is better with PC+Wildfire specifically. Kill a couple specials, everything around them burns, then anything around that is gonna get started on.

[pine shore]

PC? Perilous Combustion?

[raven mountain]

yea

[quartz barn]

Only when you're already going for a soulblaze setup

[summer prairie]

corpses spreading wildfire is pretty strong, when you kill something with purg they'll immediately spread 4 stacks and then the corpse likely spreads 4 stacks again a bit later due to you applying more stacks to the corpse with your spread

no idea how that interacts with the max ragdolls setting

[raven mountain]

Ooo, didn't know corpses really interacted with fire in any real way

[summer prairie]

like if the corpse disappears on your screen, will it still spread it

[pine shore]

I'm just going first to psykanium and than a mission to see if wildfire does anything at all.

[summer prairie]

didn't seeem to in psykhanium

[pine shore]

I'm still super skeptical and think wildfire is just one of the worst talents

[raven mountain]

That's Penetration of the Soul

[quartz barn]

A good way to check if wildfire is useful is to just run some missions

Do you randomly get elite/special kills? > yes

[raven mountain]

It's one of those things you won't necessarily feel when you're spraying down a hallway

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/of9nob

[raven mountain]

but if you're more spread out and unable to concentrate your staff fire in a small area, then the spread is more noticeable.

[summer prairie]

going to play some purg games with a higher ragdoll setting, though maybe the on a server it doesn't matter https://streamable.com/flaxe1

[nocturne dust]

Actually

can 4 stacks kill trash with blaze away

[summer prairie]

definitely with other buffs

[pine shore]

so far in psykanium, wildfire looks not good.

[echo root]

Me

You can put this point anywhere you want

[pine shore]

I made this

Almost the same

[echo root]

No

the 10% CDR aura is crucial

[pine shore]

I like crit

[echo root]

Yes, but if you want to test wildfire properly you need the aura

Get to 86% peril and use shriek every single time

keep in mind shriek goes through walls and has a very long range

[summer prairie]

too bad shriek doesn't set corpses on fire

[pine shore]

86? Wansn't it 84?

[echo root]

It's like 85.6 or some bullshit

[pine shore]

ok

In game I always round to 90

[echo root]

86 should give you 6 stacks

[nocturne dust]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d5f5cb5-afee-4f51-9393-b8429e8c6765/

You can read my opinion on Wildfire in the 'About Wildfire' section.

I will make no other comment.

cus I should be asleep

[pine shore]

In psykanium, when I look at wildfire, it either doesn't kill anything or kills stuff that would've died either way.

I have to literally do nothing for it to do any damage

[echo root]

I feel like we've had like 6 different people tell you the same thing

It's not about damage

It's about getting a fuckton more warp charges

but you keep talking about the damage

Wildfire damage is dogshit

You don't take it for damage

[pine shore]

Psykanium is not very useful, really gotta play

[nocturne dust]

The damage actually isn't that bad for a single node. In fact, it's better than quite a few other nodes.

[pine shore]

May fatshark servers run on at least 2 potatoes today so I don't crash more than 4 times 🙏 🙏 🙏

[echo root]

Yeah, but when you get 4 stacks spread over 4 mobs it's what, 20 damage total?

It's 15s base duration that ticks every 0,75 sec AFAIK

[summer prairie]

it spreads stacks twice though

at least if you were still targeting that area

[echo root]

Is it wildfire or perilous combustion that can proc KF ?

[nocturne dust]

It's 4 stacks to pre-cook your targets for purg, and add in blaze away

and perfect timing

[plucky flax]

It's 84%. Specifically above 83.3%.

[pine shore]

aha

I knew it was 84

[plucky flax]

So you can be at 83% and get 6 stacks, or 5 stacks.

[nocturne dust]

It's also not 20 damage because it'll rapidly stack up nearby targets to 4 in Auric, even when there are enough nearby to evenly distribute

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/rbse69

[raven mountain]

Disagree, I run the 5% crit. More burn stacks faster.

Also, more crits is good for the team.

Also also, if you have an ogryn, you're giving them 200% crit chance.

10% cdr on vent is like 3ish seconds

[nocturne dust]

it takes an extra point tho

which is not worth it

[echo root]

3 seconds is huge

[raven mountain]

3 seconds is nothing

[echo root]

That's some bullshit

[raven mountain]

Yeah, thinking it is is bullshit.

[plucky flax]

My opinion > your opinion.

[summer prairie]

it certainly does more than 5% crit on purg

[raven mountain]

The biggest reason not to take the 5% crit is the extra node

[plucky flax]

[fluid thistle]

nuh uh

[echo root]

I'd sell my mom for another -3s cd on my ability

[raven mountain]

Wow, hope she doesn't realize how little she's worth.

[plucky flax]

It's tru though being top 1%.

[echo root]

She'd be flattered, it would triple her networth.

[raven mountain]

crits on purg are more burn stacks. More crits is more better.

[plucky flax]

CDR on creeping flames is also more burn.

[echo root]

Yes, but it caps so fast already between nexus + basecrit + wildfire + perilous + premature venting shriek usage

[nocturne dust]

If you can spam Shriek enough, you don't need purg...

[summer prairie]

perfectly normal gameplay https://streamable.com/7mxlom

[plucky flax]

Stop promoting wildfire.

It's my trade secret.

[raven mountain]

If you can spam shriek enough, you may as well not use purg at all. But you aren't getting anywhere with 10% cdr

[echo root]

You're getting a lot further than with 5% crit

[summer prairie]

I shriek 10% more, how many seconds that is doesn't matter

[nocturne dust]

I mean, eh

I like CDR more because it's not rng

[summer prairie]

it's like saying 10% attack speed is so bad, that's like how many fractions of a second?

[raven mountain]

When it comes off cd, I'm not often sitting at 85%

[nocturne dust]

Stop using Empyric Resolve

[plucky flax]

Then press f with burga at below the 6 stacks threshold.

[nocturne dust]

no don't

[echo root]

Smells like Empyric Resolve and 80% warp res on burgatus

[raven mountain]

Not this build, no.

[plucky flax]

You waste cdr efficiency if you're not spamming with burga.

[summer prairie]

blaze trauma doesn't set corpses on fire

awful

[raven mountain]

Not if you have 3 extra seconds to build peril!

[digital hill]

Interesting, I didnt know corpses spread fire.

[nocturne dust]

What's the point of Psykinetics then

[raven mountain]

Getting an instant refresh on VoC when you kill a pack of hounds?

[nocturne dust]

Or shriek

[plucky flax]

I know maximising dps uptime is hard concept for some people. But with a certain blue flames staff holding your peril to 84% for creeping flames is not the most efficient way to damage horde.

[raven mountain]

Not shrieking at like 20 peril just because I killed some hounds.

[nocturne dust]

Look, you may be higher on the damage charts but I reject your reality and substitute my own

[plucky flax]

Okie.

[digital hill]

Embrace sword.

[fluid thistle]

what's a damage chart /s

[echo root]

Scoreboard mod

[digital hill]

I really should get that, but the game is so finnicky about things

And stuff

[echo root]

You really shouldn't imo

You'll be tempted to do dumb shit for higher dmg

[digital hill]

I'd just like to see how much sword I did, you know? Did I live up to my sword's expectations?

[nocturne dust]

I mean, scoreboard does more than dmg

It also does dmg taken

[digital hill]

Did the Emperor see me and say, good boy?

[nocturne dust]

which I pay attention to, which is why I always have less damage taken than most

[echo root]

Need warhammerlogs so we can see who's slacking and bench them

[nocturne dust]

while still having very decent damage output

[digital hill]

Wots that

[raven mountain]

Or you'll realize that even when you think you're doing well, you did a quarter of what everyone else did. And no amount of "I stagger 1k more enemies" will fix that.

[digital hill]

Is it going to out me

[echo root]

https://tenor.com/view/ralph-wiggum-simpsons-hi-bye-gif-16529059407582436389

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, you can definitely get tunnel vision and not notice the revolver vet sniping everything faster than the warp

[echo root]

Warcraftlogs is used by degens to see everything that happened during a raid in WoW. I was playing classic during the lockdown and people literally sat 2h to read through and minmax raids.

[digital hill]

One day, staff will shoot swords.

Ah, that.

Worst benchmark for team work ever.

[echo root]

We had a guy who proclaimed he was the best healer on the server etc etc playing shaman and he used 32 totems during a 3h raid.

[radiant frigate]

whar

[nocturne dust]

I have no context for any of this

[digital hill]

Healers always proclaim such when they're raiding.

[echo root]

The only thing he did was spam chain heal (aoe heal that bounces around) and this gave him the highest healing output.

[radiant frigate]

that's pretty epic

[echo root]

Totems are aoe buffs for your groups that sit on the ground

[digital hill]

imho, pug raids are a real challenge of cohesion

[radiant frigate]

no windfury no problem :)

[raven mountain]

Ogryn have base 2.5% crit chance. Giving them 5% adds 200% to their crit chance, landing them at 7.5%!

[echo root]

You need to recast them as they only live so long and their aoe is short ish

[fluid thistle]

as someone who always plays healers I can guarentee you that most people will survive at best

[digital hill]

I liked druid healing sometime back in uhhh BC? I think, when they got tree form.

[echo root]

Lifebloom moment

[radiant frigate]

as someone who plays tanks because no one else will do it proficiently, i hate everyone :)

[fluid thistle]

🤝

[echo root]

I always roll as healer / dps then reroll to tank because pug tanks are beyond terrible.

[radiant frigate]

🤝

[digital hill]

I play tanks when my friends are too selfish to carry us, and I'm like hey man, I'm an alt tank, I'm going to take on a single mob at a time.

[nocturne dust]

Imagine playing as a healer or tank. (It's me)

[digital hill]

Scary out there.

[hearty wolf]

I actually quit FF for this reason. The game has a healer drought and you'd end up waiting hours unless you're premade.

[digital hill]

Whaaa

[hearty wolf]

(for logging)

[digital hill]

For raiding? Extremes? I've never had to wait so long.

[radiant frigate]

i have never really engaged with ff's endgame

[raven mountain]

Oh man, I just did some reading on the warp charges skill with the expanded details mod. So apparently lowering the cd of the ability with things like 10% cdr aura and curios negatively affects the cdr given by warp charges.

Bubble is 40s cooldown, but if you have 20% from aura+curios, it's only 32s and the cdr from warp charges only looks at that 32s to decide how much it's going to lower, not the original 40s.

[radiant frigate]

i enjoyed the journey though

[digital hill]

I dipped a toe in, and I loved to see the content.

But so hard ;_;

[nocturne dust]

Yes, it's multiplicative in a bad way

[raven mountain]

Yeah, that's sad and makes me want to remove the cdr curios too. xD

[hearty wolf]

That's why I clarified for logging

[summer prairie]

it's still reducing by the same %

[nocturne dust]

It's why I only use the CDR aura and not curios for cooldown

[summer prairie]

you can shriek % more

[raven mountain]

But it's a different % more than it should be!

[digital hill]

Whatcha put on curios?

[raven mountain]

by a few seconds because of the multiplicative.

mix of toughness, health, stamina regen, and cdr.

[summer prairie]

otherwise you would get instant shriek in a -20% maelstorm with 6 warp charges

[nocturne dust]

gunner, sniper, and (controversially) toughness regen speed

[digital hill]

I'd wondered about toughness regen.

[echo root]

You almost do, it's like 6 seconds

[hearty wolf]

It's really fun if you can find like minded people imo but it depends if you like the gameplay. It's a pretty static game all things considered. 2-4 patterns of most mechanics. If you're good at pattern recognition and execution consistently, might be something worth looking into.

[echo root]

Only works on coherency

[raven mountain]

I had toughness regen, but I'm a hater on it rn.

and if you're not in melee

[digital hill]

And it stops when getting shot, right? Even if blocking with sword?

I'm always in melee.

I am the melee.

[echo root]

It's disabled while in melee range yes

[digital hill]

REEEE

[raven mountain]

If an enemy is in your melee-range bubble and targeting you, coherency toughness regen is off.

[nocturne dust]

The 90% bonus reduces the delay so that if you just dodge back, you immediately start regening

[digital hill]

Good to know.

It's fine. My sword and I are soulbonded coherency.

[raven mountain]

Yeah, psykers have really good delays on stamina and I think toughness regen

[nocturne dust]

I think it's useful even in melee, specifically because it happens during the worst moments: when you don't have anyone to kill around you

[radiant frigate]

i very much do not like the idea of having to find people and/or applying to guilds

[wind spruce]

Ya toughness regen is super underrated

[hearty wolf]

How much toughness does that usually net you total?

[wind spruce]

It's pure dogma

[nocturne dust]

wdym?

[radiant frigate]

can't be underrated if it is actually garbage

[echo root]

Overrated

[wind spruce]

Keep repeating the dogma

[digital hill]

Whatever man, I have nightmares from whatshername during the Domi expansion. The lady that was the steward of the city or something? Her fight is nuts.

Colors everywhere.

Or, or Alexander!

And doing math!

[raven mountain]

I get the feeling on sniper. Seeing what a sniper shot does to a psyker's toughness/health is oof.

[nocturne dust]

With 3 sniper res and a health curio, I can survive 3 sniper shots, or 2 and take quite a bit of chip

[raven mountain]

Just means I need to not get shot. xD

[hearty wolf]

Nor do I.

Fortunately it really isn't that hard for FF. You can literally pug everything if you want since there are agreed strats for stuff. For organised groups, discord tends to work well.

[summer prairie]

do you ever take 3 snipet shots in a single match even

[raven mountain]

I'm not sure I take 3 in a day.

[digital hill]

When the orgyn selfishly moves out the way, sometimes.

[nocturne dust]

Rarely but if I take chip damage then it's useful

[echo root]

Most people I see take 1 then dc

[raven mountain]

I eat more nets than I do snipes.

[wind spruce]

Maybe in a single month

[raven mountain]

Those fuckers like to curve them around corners.

[digital hill]

Nets got some kind of homing upgrade.

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/ffxiv-yotsuyu-stomp-angry-final-fantasy-xiv-gif-13900102

[digital hill]

YES HER

[nocturne dust]

The common scenario is chip damage galore and then the concern of a single sniper shot devastating you. I don't normally take sniper shots, but it's not like there's net resistance 🤷‍♂️

[digital hill]

The one fight I struggle on embarrassingly bad. Also, the alexander math fight.

[summer prairie]

15% health just seems better than any of the resistances

[hearty wolf]

Never mind, I'm mentally devoid at the moment. I thought you were saying that's what you use for all 3 curios.

I was just asking what your total toughness is with that curio set up.

[wind spruce]

I wonder how much health that third one saves. Probably not much more than the 7.5 you'd get from a health perk

[digital hill]

Gunner is good because it covers, like, everything with a gun that isn't its own Special unit.

[nocturne dust]

It isn't because Psyker just doesn't have the stats imo

[summer prairie]

what stats

[wind spruce]

Base stats

[nocturne dust]

Psyker base stats

[wind spruce]

Just take 2 sniper if you really need it

[nocturne dust]

and not great damage reduction on top

[wind spruce]

Third is nuts

[summer prairie]

it doesn't matter what the base health is

[hearty wolf]

Tsuki? I don't remember anything particularly difficult about her. That was yearsssss ago.

And Alex? I don't recall Alex having any maths?

[nocturne dust]

It does. Enemies have breakpoints too.

[wind spruce]

Yeah but you're counting triple sniper breakpoints bro

[digital hill]

One of the Alexander dungeons or whatever has some basic algebra involving squares and positioning or something. I dont know

[wind spruce]

That's silly

[digital hill]

It's in the Extreme version

I think?

[nocturne dust]

3 shots survived

[wind spruce]

Meaningless

[nocturne dust]

Not at all

[wind spruce]

It absolutely is

Because that never happens

[radiant frigate]

i think you might be thinking of a different boss

[nocturne dust]

It means I can have much more chip and still survive 1

[digital hill]

Maybe! It's been forever.

[radiant frigate]

Math Robot in the alliance raid

[summer prairie]

do you know what also helps with chip damage and surviving

[wind spruce]

Relevant breakpoints is things like can u survive a shot from one wound

[summer prairie]

15% health

[wind spruce]

... that's a different breakpoint lmao

[echo root]

Not shotgunners. Only gunners and Reapers.

[hearty wolf]

I think you're talking about A11s which is cruise chaser? Jet kind of thing?

Either way, whenever there's maths in FF, there tends to be a really easy way to figure it out. Most mechs give you long enough that someone can tell you what to do, too.

[nocturne dust]

Except 15% health means no sniper res and then snipers will just gut you regardless if you have the slightest chipping

[wind spruce]

And not little shooter guys either to clarify (I know you know kret)

[nocturne dust]

only gunners iirc

Isn't it?

[wind spruce]

It's gunners and reapers

[radiant frigate]

gunner is good because it covers an enemy type that is very common and can shred you in seconds and likes to travel in packs of 10

[echo root]

Reaper and gunners, no other units.

[wind spruce]

1 x gunner is

[hearty wolf]

Usually the game is just odd and even or adding or minusing 4. Sometimes knowing prime numbers between 1-9 and simple division

[wind spruce]

Two x is

3 x is

[nocturne dust]

Statistically speaking, each extra resist adds the same amount of survivability versus their target

[echo root]

It's true

[radiant frigate]

translation: triple gunner is not 60% DR

[wind spruce]

Yep but that's not how shit works, since as you point out there's chip damage

And gunners you can usually get out from underneath eventually

[radiant frigate]

it is 0.8x0.8x0.8% damage taken

[nocturne dust]

Right but I'm not going to avoid chip damage with anything else

+toughness isn't all that helpful with just how easy it is to eat through it

[hearty wolf]

I like seeing funny number be higher

[nocturne dust]

and +health won't change most situations

[hearty wolf]

To be honest, does it really matter? Just play perfectly and never take any damage, ever 🤔

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Curios are a dump

[wind spruce]

Exp and dockets all the way

And curio drop chance

[nocturne dust]

+plasteel when

[echo root]

Mutant res

[digital hill]

yeah, I just used a chart lol but the first time I went in blind and was just like ???

[nocturne dust]

where my 'idiot' res

[wind spruce]

Barrel flight distance res when

[radiant frigate]

crusher resist when

[nocturne dust]

I need to be immune to being barreled

[radiant frigate]

gravity resist

[wind spruce]

Seriously though

[radiant frigate]

gravity resistance (it's actually just reducing your rashuns)

[wind spruce]

Toughness regen rate

[hearty wolf]

Oh yeah for sure xd. Things blind are always completely different and that's when they're most fun. When you're ambushed and have to come up with a solution (you usually don't and fall over)

[digital hill]

Yeah, I've made it a habit of going in blind in all of FFs extremes/savages.

[hearty wolf]

Things have really fallen off since Alexander though. The game has just gotten easier and easier.

Even the ults aren't that difficult imo.

They're just two different games from then compared to now

The game got much needed improvements though. That's for sure.

[digital hill]

Oh yeah. Well. Maybe. The latest xpac is a snooze.

I do enjoy picto, though

[hearty wolf]

I haven't actually even touched the latest expansion. I heard the first floor theme though and liked that. The others were kinda meh

[digital hill]

I haven't finished it, lol, first time I haven't wrapped up an expansion. I got about midway when the story pivots and it lost me pretty hard.

[hearty wolf]

That's the other worry I had. Got to rebuild another 10 year story and get reinvested.

[digital hill]

Shadowbringers and Endwalker did something special in how they told the multitude of stories they had in the fire. Shadowbringers especially is such a mood

[hearty wolf]

Shadowbringers was better than Endwalker imo

It was told much better

Endwalker is kinda on a silver platter. It's really hard to mess up because it's tying up 10 years of loose ends

And I just don't think it was done as well. Especially with the major event that happens so early on

[digital hill]

Which one! So many ;_;

But yeah it's why I treat them as a single expansion honestly.

[hearty wolf]

If it wasn't for elpis, Endwalker would be meh imo

[digital hill]

https://tenor.com/view/emet-selch-emet-ff14-ffxiv-final-fantasy14-gif-24689441

[echo root]

Just become American

[hearty wolf]

This was a great moment. Another reason shadowbringers was better.

[raven mountain]

Just caught up on the % toughness vs dr thing, and one thing that never seems to get mentioned is that by increasing toughness, you also make the toughness you gain from everything bigger. And considering how much general toughness gen psyker has, that's a lot of pennying and nickeling your way back to health. It also affects chip damage to your health by having a higher % of toughness when you get hit, translating to less piercing your health.

But yeah, psyker squishy regardless, mostly from bases.

[digital hill]

I love that they told his story, and all the other ascians stories, in the manner that they did. My favorite part of Endwalker, besides the moon stuff.

[echo root]

Yeah that's why I run 2x toughness curios and +5% on all 3 of them.

[digital hill]

And everything Zenos.

[hearty wolf]

Zenos roundup was kind of cute

I don't like how endsinger came out of literal thin air though

Although I guess that can be very reminiscent of FF in general. Most games tend to have a "Oh there's an even bigger big bad!!!"

[digital hill]

Kinda, but yeah, I mean there's a lot of scattered stories that were probably not meant to interconnect with it like Ultima/Alexander, the Dragons, and I think they did aight by sweeping them in the narrative.

Advent Children: Where mini Sephiroths become a whole ass Sephiroth.

[hearty wolf]

I liked advent children. I actually rewatched it recently just before they remade it like a month later lmao

[nocturne dust]

Note: Coherency Regen is an exception and does not scale

[raven mountain]

Oooo, good to know!

[echo root]

Yeah Mister E did some trickery with as low toughness as possible with loner + toughness regen for his Gloriana solo

[ashen trellis]

can someone maybe help me out with the monstrosity penance, I can help you with yours too

the private game one

[nocturne dust]

I hope they rework Loner.

[echo root]

Yeah it's not the best

I wonder when the Wildfire hater will be back with an update

[digital hill]

He just needs a good sword to set things on fire with.

[radiant frigate]

i hope they rework the fact that we do not have force greatsword

and power greatsword

need big chopper

[hardy tulip]

New pasive nodes are good/worth picking up?

[radiant frigate]

some yes some no

warp splitting good if you have weapons that aren't already infinite cleave

left side nodes mostly suck

[jovial juniper]

Fortitude Fellowship being a better Loner team wise kek

[radiant frigate]

doesn't it actually help loner

which is weird

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-introvert-alone-the-gangs-are-here-gif-16814667

fortitude in fellowship + loner

[jovial juniper]

It does help Loner
But the funniest part is that FF alone also allows you to regen toughness outside of coherency

[radiant frigate]

lol what

[exotic crane]

I know fatshark descriptions are pretty bad, but

no way that talent works without coherency, right?

[echo root]

Sadly the "Soulblaze on crit" blessing doesn't do anything if you kill mobs with a crit

[jovial juniper]

Fatshark math

[exotic crane]

WHAT

THE

FUCK

it does work

WHYYYYYYYYYYYY

holy shit, it's actually this bad

[jovial juniper]

The last factor on the toughness regen math becomes 0.5 instead of 0

[exotic crane]

0 x 1.5 = 0.5 ez math

[jovial juniper]

A little bit more complex than that iirc

But yeah
Fatshark math

[exotic crane]

If feels pretty fast too tbh

is it more regen than Loner?

in a vacuum

I'm guessing the formula is something like T*(0+Y), where T is base toughness regen, 0 is number of teammates in coherency and Y is the FF modifier

[radiant frigate]

vacuum... capsule..

[jovial juniper]

No
Loner is 2 coherency regen, something around 3.7 per sec

FF should be half of it when alone

[exotic crane]

right

[echo root]

@pine shore Status report

[digital hill]

I just use deflection and uncanny strike

Although I should consider other blessings. Deflection is hard to give up

[echo root]

I hate deflection

Baits me into playing suboptimally

Just slide

[digital hill]

Man, I love popping scryer's gaze and mowing through a horde. Being able to push gunners/shotgunners in the middle of hordes is awesome lol

Scryer's gaze is so fun

[radiant frigate]

scry some more

[jovial juniper]

I just wish it had more meaningful nodes

Speed and TDR are very optional

[zinc phoenix]

Right side is already chock full of good nodes

[jovial juniper]

Reality Anchor is straight up bad

[tired estuary]

I'd rather okay optional nodes than literal forced point tax (lmao chorus)

[zinc phoenix]

I want the TDR and speed nodes but I can’t afford them and there are other nodes that do the same thing

[digital hill]

The speed is awesome. My build is just to mess around, but Im stacking momentum as much as I can. I will never miss that jump on the train roof again

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-whale-the-whale-fraiser-camera-gif-3764417687302677901

Gm Meta class

[jovial juniper]

Psyker being glass keeps it from being meta
If only people could pass a skill check every time they hear a woosh or see an attack

[ornate hamlet]

I can’t hear you over my psycher left click build with surge staff and infinite dodge

[jovial juniper]

I think you're confusing Meta with OP

[ornate hamlet]

Disrupt destiny much

[jovial juniper]

Warp Syphon

[ornate hamlet]

And yes it’s op thus it is even more meta …. Its always a correlation that if things are OP then they are meta

That’s all ima say

Good bye

[jovial juniper]

Except left click is OP but not meta

[hardy tulip]

Thanks.

[quartz barn]

Friendly reminder that just because something is op its the most effective

[ornate hamlet]

^ META= Most Effectice Tactic AVAILABLE

[quartz barn]

I mean look at people fumble extra poxburster AMs

[quartz barn]

Which is different per mission type, altough usually the same setup

[ornate hamlet]

Welll yes missions offer diff challanges but for psycher he is currently the meta class, he alone has so much that most classes dotn have on offer , high crit, high dodge/ifninite, insane dps, infinite ammo…. For Veteran it’s shout spam with gold toughness if anythign rn psycher is just better rn over vet for that reason alone… OTHER then being swarmed … but then again just walk backwards if you’re being swarmed

[quartz barn]

I mean i never argued against psyker being good

[ornate hamlet]

I know I’m just pointing it out for those that still think he isn’t meta

[quartz barn]

Kinda necessary when its the skill character

Also ngl talking meta is dt means so little...

If you run proper setups on other chars you can also make runs carefree, regardless of killing power

[digital hill]

I wish I'd known the meatgrinder would show you damage and such lol

What's the average tick for soulblaze? I'm seeing fairly low numbers, but then

[proper osprey]

Loving melee pysker with the dclaw

[digital hill]

From 55 and it counts down. How are tick damage calculated?

[proper osprey]

Assail actually compliments melee psyker well with mm

[digital hill]

92 per tick lol I was beginning to have my doubts about soulblaze.

[summer prairie]

the guide has a better table I'm sure

[proper osprey]

I don’t even run key stone with it

[summer prairie]

not sure if the armor modifiers are up to date, this is old

[ionic spade]

Anyone knows a boss killer build for Psyker?

[hollow jolt]

while I don't have a build on hand that I've tested, I hear Brain Burst (with kinetic upgrade) + 2 charge wall shield gets some insane boss damage from being able to shit out brain bursts

yeah 2x +75% cast speed and -50% peril gen from brain bursts (not additive)

[digital hill]

Man, I brain burst all day. It's hilariously fun. I'm not sure what damage is normal on Heresy against crushers, but with scryer's gaze up and approaching 70% peril, h.attacks are doing 1k+

[ionic spade]

what about the staffs? any good configs for big damage with them?

currently using the bowling staff (can't remember the name lol) more than the rest

really good for elites and such

[summer prairie]

EK and Purg are decent boss damage

[hollow jolt]

all the staffs kind of suck compared to other weapons

[digital hill]

I had no idea the lightning staff could pump out such numbers. The peril gen is nuts, though

[hollow jolt]

purg is probably your best bet due to being able to damage the boss + damage the horde

[hollow jolt]

lightning funny c:

[digital hill]

Not sure if I'd take this into a mission, but it seems to trigger crits more frequently than the other two. Which means more soulblaze.

[vestal galleon]

Purg is pretty much the only choice for you there if you account for cases where Chaos spawn needs to be solo'd

[hollow jolt]

iirc lightning staff has increased base crit

I don't remember the exact number

[vestal galleon]

And Purg isn't really about big damage, but consistency, stagger and coverage

[digital hill]

That stagger is so useful.