psyker-class

[silver echo]

https://tenor.com/view/playing-a-video-adrian-boseman-marissa-gold-the-good-fight-pressing-the-spacebar-gif-21890149

[nocturne dust]

Stagger blessing meta?

Impossible

[steel flame]

god i wish it was good, but you burn so much dam ammo with it XP

[silver echo]

overpressure + blaze away is pretty goated on flamer now tbh

[steel flame]

nah you do eternal flame

[silver echo]

can't imagine dropping either of them

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I dislike ammunition in Darktide. Just make it a cooldown, that's much easier to balance.

[steel flame]

if you hit 20% crit chance with eternal flame you have bottomless mag

its disgusting

[haughty star]

Yeah the bottomless flame one is the only one to top flame staff

[nocturne dust]

until you run out of ammo

[silver echo]

ok but all that does is let you spend ammo even more, it's much better to actually do more damage

[thorn cedar]

nah its a pretty reasonable trade off

you can max the damage out

but you can also guarantee you get the damage out

your choice

[haughty star]

I just hate that every zealot and their dog is running around with a bolter now literally vacuuming up all tje ammo on the map at Hussain bolt speeds

[silver echo]

extremely true lol

[steel flame]

god its annoying playing with bolter zealots that mag dump as soon as they get ammo

[nocturne dust]

This is why I play staffker

[silver echo]

bolter players when they see a big ammo after already taking 4 this mission: 🥺 👉👈 is for me

[steel flame]

god that reminds me

my friend and i were playing aegis station, we both had staffs, we had 2....count that TWO gunlugger ogryns

that refused to do anything but shoot their gun

we had 3 ammo crates and they still managed to run out of ammo 4 times

it was painful

[broken carbon]

@latent mauve

[latent mauve]

ranged mostly players when they have to use melee

https://tenor.com/view/po-dies-dies-of-death-teletubbies-gif-23885910

[spice flame]

Man, not using a staff is weird

[sturdy reef]

heavy laspistol psyker is fun

[spice flame]

idk, gunker is cool and all but having to search for ammo constantly and not using a staff, eh.

[sturdy reef]

the shove for the alt action is really good

[spice flame]

I can't deny it's very powerful tho

[sturdy reef]

def

[spice flame]

But yeah, I think I prefer playing with staff, I like all of them

[sturdy reef]

Im having a ton of fun with electro staff scriers gaze

just get warp unbound

warp charges for constant uptime as well

adn psykinetics aura

[dusk void]

Told someone in the game that smite doesn't do that much damage, and then proceeded to correct me in saying that I don't know how to build it correctly

[sturdy reef]

he's prob just using empowered psionics

[dusk void]

Told me that mods are just a way of cheeating in the game

[sturdy reef]

honestly

[silver echo]

it does decent damage with ep smite tbh but yea awful otherwise

[sturdy reef]

that one mod that gives hp bars and visual indicators of where certain units are coming from

[dusk void]

He was doing a gunker with smite

[sturdy reef]

is def an advantage

[spice flame]

uh

[sturdy reef]

I wouldnt call it straight up cheating

but its 100% a leg up

[hoary leaf]

what is the dump stat for the electro staff?

[dusk void]

He proceeded to tell me that I don;t know how to play my psyker

[sturdy reef]

warp res or quell

your pref imo

I like to dump warp res

[dusk void]

Bitch, I main trauma staff. Does more damage than smite can

[sturdy reef]

smite is good for CC and covering res'

its about it

[dusk void]

He told me that smite is god awesome on a malice mission lol

[sturdy reef]

eh

they can stick to malice then

[spice flame]

I love trauma staff

[sturdy reef]

infernus staff, my beloved

[spice flame]

cc, damage, explosion

[silver echo]

tbh assail still the most op thing in malice

[spice flame]

what's not to like

[dusk void]

He then said he's done duos and trios with smite. I believe him, but I am a personal smite hater

[sturdy reef]

empowered assail with scriers gaze is fun

not the best

but fun

[hoary leaf]

for the fire staff is the dump stat damage? I remember a while back being told that dmg was the dump stat

[sturdy reef]

warp res

[dusk void]

Warp resistance

[silver echo]

nah its warp res

[sturdy reef]

it has the lowest peril generation of any stave

by like

an order magnitude almost

[hoary leaf]

cool, need to redo my weapons lol

[sturdy reef]

thats hyperbole but you get it

crit flame staff build so you can quickly stack soulblaze

perma stun ragers too

[dusk void]

IF ANYONE HAS THE AUDACITY TO COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW WE PLAY, THEN FUCKING QUIT THE MISSION. DON'T SIT HERE AND TELL US HOW WE FUCKING NEED TO DO THIS, BUT STILL WANT THE FUCKING REWARD. YOU'RE A FUCKING DETRIMENT TO THE TEAM. LEVEL 40 PSYKER TELLING ME HOW TO PLAY MY LEVEL 802 PSYKER. GTFO BITCH

Freaking hate playing with randoms

[plucky flax]

[flint pawn]

ran into this a while ago too lol

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-growl-snarl-girlwolf-shewolf-gif-9942770988235712676

actually no

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-my-reaction-to-that-information-angry-reaction-wolf-reaction-gif-27080186

this one

[exotic crane]

[broken carbon]

u don’t get the bow

[flint pawn]

so they get the sword

[haughty star]

Its res or crit

Never quell

Quell too exponential

[steel flame]

i am a fire trauma stand, but ironically EP smite with fire shout CAN 100% out damage it tho you kinda need think just a small bit more than the average smite psyker for that. its fun to pull out sometimes to clown on auric but i find trauma more engaging

yeah you should def dump peril resist instead, there are loads of options to increase peril resist in the talent tree but the same cant be said for quell speed

[nocturne dust]

not crit, just warp res

Crit from 60 to 80 gives about 5% crit chance, which is a whole perk

EK has peril problems but warp res from 60 to 80 ain't doing much for that

[nocturne dust]

All staves dump warp res except for Voidstrike which dumps blast radius.

[haughty star]

Psykaneum says dump crit is viable so it's an option. I think the main point is eks crit is so stupid high that its not impactful to lose

[latent mauve]

Imagine thinking level matters

[radiant frigate]

you do not have to believe everything in the atheneum

[plucky flax]

If you don't follow it word by word you explode irl.

[haughty star]

I mean the reasoning is sound behind it. The bonus crit damage is not impactful whatsoever and the few percent crit chance isn't really necessary on something like the surge that has incredibly high crit chance anyway

Whether or not it's worth it to you is another subject altogether but it's definitely a viable choice

[latent mauve]

Try no respite full bore slug shotgun on gunker

[plucky flax]

I hate the agri shotgun.

Normal shot damage is so low.

[latent mauve]

Ammo efficient to kill bons

[radiant frigate]

oopsie

[plucky flax]

Bonbons are meme anyway. The event should only spawn chaos spawns.

[latent mauve]

Chaos spawns are easier to deal with imo

[patent jacinth]

Absolutely

[latent mauve]

Two bon is map ruined

[patent jacinth]

Chaos spawns have a reasonable weakspot (if they aggro you) and no area denial

[plucky flax]

To an extend yeah. Depend on the spawn location I guess. With room to move around bons just don't touch you.

[radiant frigate]

Super Bonbon Mode™ is definitely an experience

[patent jacinth]

I miss Stormfiends

They were so much better

[plucky flax]

I haven't been cornered by bonbons in event maps yet.

[radiant frigate]

especially when you just got done killing one, and 2 seconds later a fresh one shows up in the same place

[latent mauve]

I had 3 on me

Today

[plucky flax]

Stealth and run away.

[radiant frigate]

clearly your team needed more focus target kraks and power swords

[patent jacinth]

“Wait why is the music still go..ing…. FUCK”

[latent mauve]

End boss room in chasm station

[radiant frigate]

or, a single zealot with a thammer

[patent mango]

where is wolfer finding 10 beasts of nurgle for every mission anyways

[latent mauve]

I was running bistol taxe

[radiant frigate]

the warp

[patent mango]

clearly hes also a psyker

[patent jacinth]

He has a few sitting around I think

But you also can summon daemons without them

[plucky flax]

Me just standing there and DH aggroed me.
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx8tvu0cS13a456yeJO5fVetB231zPAZHt?si=sdQu3YC18K3ZKoy4

[latent mauve]

I have killed them by the thousands at this point

[jolly breach]

Hey guys, how valuable do you think the dodge duration node is? I haven’t used it a bunch yet but it seems decent

[patent mango]

its ok

[latent mauve]

Play ds5

On IJ

[plucky flax]

It's okay I didn't die to it. But like it was weird.

[latent mauve]

560cm dodge distance with pen dump

[plucky flax]

And no I am too noob to play anything apart from stealth combat axe martyrdom or knife these days.

Too much psykering.

[upper sun]

the way of the axe....

respect

[nocturne dust]

Crit isn't that high, and the guide can be wrong in places

[patent mango]

force rashad for psyker

[plucky flax]

The good axe build.

[latent mauve]

That’s why you suck at the game

[plucky flax]

Not with chastise.

[latent mauve]

[upper sun]

thats propaganda

[latent mauve]

Every other game with you I have to clutch claddius

[haughty star]

You think it's wrong, I don't

Surge is the highest base crit staff

[steel flame]

im finally getting around to buildcrafting the laspistol X and im really liking it with dumdum and concentrated fire so far

[upper sun]

you cause the situations by running 4 rooms ahead

ok

[nocturne dust]

Yes, and? Crit chance is still important on it

[latent mauve]

Do I now

[haughty star]

Not everyone has to agree with you or is wrong because they don't

[upper sun]

the last couple were fully on me tho

[latent mauve]

I was literally starting the event

And you 3 died together

[upper sun]

i fucked up the dodging crushers because i was trying a new layout

yeah

[latent mauve]

[radiant frigate]

no actually my opinion is the only correct one and everyone else is wrong

[upper sun]

this one was on me 100%

[radiant frigate]

true fact

[latent mauve]

Just keep dodge on the same key dipshit

[nocturne dust]

🤷‍♂️ Run what you like, but just because you like it doesn't mean it's meta or performative

[upper sun]

i should have staggered the crusher

[haughty star]

Dead in a nutshell

Also my opinion is meta hold the l

[upper sun]

I played better once i put it back that way

[nocturne dust]

Me living rent free in your head

[latent mauve]

Blud just sucks

[upper sun]

first game seperate second game joint

[haughty star]

Yes, as comical relief

[nocturne dust]

Truth must be funny to you.

[haughty star]

No kids that don't know how to internet are tho

[clear heath]

🍿

[latent mauve]

You jumped when you should have dodged multiple times clad

[nocturne dust]

You must love to laugh at yourself.

[upper sun]

the games where i did that were unironically better than when i dodged when i should have attacked

turning on always dodge regardless of direction was a dumbass idea

[nocturne dust]

Also, if my opinion was meta I would be asking for gunker buffs.

[plucky flax]

How can people put jump and dodge on the same key.

[clear heath]

I still do

[nocturne dust]

Just put everything on the same key, that way you only have to press one button to win

[sturdy reef]

I use defaults for the most part except sprint

Lol

Its not bad

[exotic crane]

jump and dodge on the same button sucks so much ass

[latent mauve]

Here is my convoluted key binding

[plucky flax]

I have Q as tag and B as weapon swap.

[latent mauve]

C to jump
Space to slide
Alt to toggle dodge
Control to hold to dodge
Shift to sprint and singular dodge

[upper sun]

how many fingers do you have jesus

[exotic crane]

I only use jump to vault over obstacles or jump ladders, can't think of any other reason to press it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-in-the-shell-keyboard-gif-7519694

[sturdy reef]

Cant vault over shit sadly

Except a small crate

[upper sun]

i should just get foot peddles

[plucky flax]

Hrm what's the default dodge key?

[spiral condor]

space

[upper sun]

same as jump

[clear heath]

space

[nocturne dust]

Nah, having to use your feet is why driving is tiring

[latent mauve]

Oh wait there’s more

[plucky flax]

Oh weird. I have my dodge as V not sure from what game.

But it sticks.

[granite kelp]

i have my dodge keys bound to a and d so i automatically dodge when i strafe out of danger

[brazen rampart]

Holy crap you are a freak.

[granite kelp]

what is that hand

i tried that on my keyboard

are you using 2 fingers for the wasd

[sturdy reef]

must have his keyboard at an angle

[clear heath]

wtf toggle dodge

[granite kelp]

what angle

[sturdy reef]

dunno

[granite kelp]

only explanation is this dude is holding it at a 90 degree angle

[abstract totem]

You’re a creature not even human

[granite kelp]

and uses their pinky for the keys

[clear heath]

Since when do you need a toggle, hold, and tap dodge?

[granite kelp]

dude i just bound them to my movement so i dont even have to exert brain power

[latent mauve]

Different circumstances require different inputs

[granite kelp]

if im not holding forwards im probably trying to dodge so i bound all 3 but w to dodge

[latent mauve]

Also saves my hands a lot of pain

[haughty star]

I just use the 6 button mouse from razer

[latent mauve]

I play what 10 games a day, averaging around 2k dodges a game

[haughty star]

The Naga with the 6 button side plate attached

[granite kelp]

i have a moba mouse with 9 side keys even then im not pulling that shit off

[haughty star]

Its a lifesaver with this shit

[granite kelp]

trust gxt 970

[spiral condor]

How do you set all of those dodges?

[latent mauve]

I have considered uploading with one of those input tracker things on screen

[silent wigeon]

what would the defacto trauma staff build be?

[plucky flax]

Build at start
https://youtu.be/6lyN5CY5Le8

[radiant frigate]

you guys use the weapon swap keybind?

[silent wigeon]

why not soul drinker?

[plucky flax]

Easier to strafe and swap. I still use 1 and 2 too. Depends on what I'm doing so I can always move and swap

[patent jacinth]

Big investment for small benefit

[plucky flax]

Too far on the right for only condition 5 crit chance

[steel flame]

its too many points for very little payoff when you can get the same benifit by taking the 5% crit node for 1 point on the bottom row

god i really wish the heavy laspistol X had access to run and gun

[thorn cedar]

tbh what holds me off souldrinker is that it doesnt refresh

otherwise id probs take it

[steel flame]

the toughness regen isnt that good either

[latent mauve]

What do you mean

[thorn cedar]

aint bad, its another source if you didnt want the one up top

[steel flame]

even on the flame staff build, mettle does its job better

[clear heath]

It's just too far in the tree for me

[broken carbon]

oopsies

wrong chat

[steel flame]

if it was on the right side and not buried in the left behind a bunch of not fire perks

[plucky flax]

Bad

[steel flame]

it would be an instant pick

[broken carbon]

[sturdy reef]

yeah I really don't understand why it is on the right hand side

[steel flame]

honestly if it was just toughness regen it should be at the top with the rest

[verbal thistle]

can you make a video on how to do my taxes?

I need psyker help

[spiral condor]

Where do you set a control for toggle dodge, hold to dodge, and single dodge. In default list all I am seeing for dodge is well "Dodge" is it a mod that adds additional keybinds?

[steel flame]

sorry wot

[latent mauve]

Mods

Key dodging

[steel flame]

never heard of dommy taxes

[spiral condor]

Ah. Thank you I will take a look. I probably should just try seperating dodge and jump first.

[steel flame]

sounds hot

[upper sun]

yeah you need to start out by filling out an A500 forum and checking stats and armor type of the following
scab gunners
dreg gunners
flak ragers
ragers

[steel flame]

im really debating kinetic flayer, im always sitting between 80-100 in a horde so it would only really trigger at the start of fightsXP

mmmm

[plucky flax]

You should dodge taxes if you can. Governments are evil

[steel flame]

if you take empathic evasion you auto dodge taxes for every crit hit you get on a politician

[upper sun]

agent is based?????

[plucky flax]

Uk taxes are way too much

I cry every pay check

[steel flame]

thats what you get for having healthcare

over here in the states we have to go to war with our healthcare system just to ride in an abulance

[plucky flax]

Me pretty healthy and doesn't need the NHS

[plucky flax]

Your peril is low after you use creeping flames too

[steel flame]

true

[plucky flax]

Is an enabler at the start of a fight

[steel flame]

im still mad fatshark is too cowardly to make our blazing spirit cap 8

[plucky flax]

That's why blaze trauma is still bad

[steel flame]

i would definelty not call it bad.....

as much as i want a cap of 8 i can see why they didnt do it

[plucky flax]

I don't play it anymore

[steel flame]

that would be a massive fuckin damage increase to get 2 more stacks

[haughty star]

Blaze trauma just feels clunky to me

[split lance]

Heresy

Skissue

[steel flame]

for reference, the base soulblaze tick damage jumps from 24.5 with 6 stacks all the way to 41.3 with 8. and then if you add venting shriek your max base dot damage jumps from 83.4 to 107 going from 12 to 14 max stacks

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/gravy-might-splash-gravy-might-make-it-gravy-might-hit-gravy-might-get-it-swish-gif-15793374

[steel flame]

if you master how to quell cancel the staff and still maintain movement it becomes really fluid but that shit aint easy. took me alot of practice

[radiant frigate]

taxes 🤮

[haughty star]

eh it's prolly a skiissue

[split lance]

Fr

[steel flame]

im trying out bb procs instead of tranquility but im losing alot of damage from missing the peril resistance

oh well

the other downside of trading tranquilty for flayer is im losing alot of cc with lots of low charge attacks for some burst occasional burst damage

[paper harbor]

does surge doubleshot on voidstrike charge attack?

[radiant frigate]

yes

[paper harbor]

cool

[thorn cedar]

its not always clear to me how i end up with the builds i do

but its always funny when it sort of clicks

[analog agate]

This is what I do for a blaze build. I still mostly do blast staff and probably have 500 hours over agent on it 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

Huh

so I messed with my graphics settings

and setting Global Illumination to high actually improved my stuttering by a huge amount

wtf Fatshark

Also @ripe obsidian you're completely correct, mettle isn't working properly

on purg and trauma

[steel flame]

whats wrong with mettle?

[nocturne dust]

It doesn't work at all on Trauma, and only activates once (on the first tick) on purgatus, for rmbs

if the first tick is a crit

[analog agate]

Good thing the toughness is garbo on blast anyways

[nocturne dust]

but it's useful on purgatus, or at least was 😭

[ripe obsidian]

:D for being right. D: for it being borked.

[analog agate]

Yeah, sucks for purg. Hopefully someone posts it on their forums so they are aware of the ug

Bug

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, hope someone does that.

[steel flame]

holy shit you right, its only working for trauma and purge m1

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/invaderzim-whistle-whistling-casual-bored-gif-4807992

[analog agate]

I have never had an account for it haha

So not it

[nocturne dust]

I don't have a forum account either

[ripe obsidian]

I dealt with it.

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/the-psyker-talent-mettle-still-doesnt-work-properly/100925

Well, I didn't make it.

But I commented on it.

[jagged quarry]

with assail, do you primarily snipe with right click or spam left click?

[thorn cedar]

both, depends whats going on

[verbal thistle]

left spam

right for snipers

[thorn cedar]

right clicks when nothing is in melee range, left clicks when things are is how my brain filters the two

[jagged quarry]

right clikc does more damage?

[thorn cedar]

yea

and theyre guaranteed to hit

well, unless they hit carapace mid-flight

guess there's always that

[nocturne dust]

or a wall

[thorn cedar]

but they wont burn through trash, it'll go to the thing you targeted

[thorn cedar]

yes and no? its fucky but generally it still finds a path eventually

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, it'll seek the highlighted target until it hits the enemy

[thorn cedar]

i swear ive had some score their kill almost two seconds later

[sturdy reef]

Ive had this happen too

[silent wigeon]

getting to the point where I wanna get the scoreboard mod just to start seeing the differences stat wise in the builds I run.

[radiant frigate]

do it

[cloud lichen]

whats quell canceling

really enjoying trauma staff if there was a better way to play it i would love to learn

[sturdy reef]

U shoot the primary fire of any stave besides the infernus one

It has an animation before you can refire

If you time a quell input right followed by lmb, it will cancel the animation and then fire again

Gotta get used to the timing though

[cloud lichen]

how does thatn make trauma staff more fluid?

when i mostly use

rmb

just curios

[sturdy reef]

Well you can do it on the infenus actually

[sturdy reef]

It fires way faster

Basically a torrent

[cloud lichen]

when im using LMB?

[sturdy reef]

Whatever you use for primary fire

After u shoot

[cloud lichen]

is there a tech for RMB

[sturdy reef]

Input quell

Oh

There is

Voidblast becomes slightly faster on its rmb using the same technique

It shortens the animation of the psyker closing their hand and reopening it for the next rmb

I guess cancelling it technically

[analog agate]

It works for secondary fire as well

Just tap R at a specific time and it animation cancels

[cloud lichen]

dope interesting

[nocturne dust]

https://youtu.be/O2pWeCx-hAA

[polar drift]

Best gun for gun psycher currently?

Wait

[nocturne dust]

Also for some reason I decided to swap my keybinds right before this match so you can see a lot of stupid jumping/sliding

[polar drift]

Need to kill crushers and bosses

Crushers would be the primary target

[sturdy reef]

Blasphemy

[nocturne dust]

I think that's generally vraks

infantry autogun

[polar drift]

Also - Deadvoid - thank you for all your advice!

[nocturne dust]

Gunker doesn't have any great options for crushers in terms of guns

[sturdy reef]

Accatran heavy laspistol my current fav

[polar drift]

Should I go zarona?

[nocturne dust]

There's the Bistol and Revolver, yeah

But we don't have access to Bolter so 🤷‍♂️

[polar drift]

It's all I need for my stupid build - bosses and crushers

And I can run any ranged

What is the bistil? lol

bistol

[hushed egret]

bolt pistol then I'd think, if you're dead set on it being a gun and not a staff

[nocturne dust]

Blasphemy kills

lol, it's a meme build

[nocturne dust]

Bolt Pistol

[polar drift]

Ya know - bolt gun could work

Thanks guys!@

[nocturne dust]

Use a dueling sword

The classic psyker way, stabbing things to death you can't kill with space magic

[fresh reef]

ew

[sturdy reef]

Deimos blaze sword my beloved

[fresh reef]

it's beautiful

[sturdy reef]

And antax overheads

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/tomska-tonska-and-friends-asdfmovie-content-thomas-ridgewell-gif-25555845

[sturdy reef]

Knocking a crusher on its ass is too addictive

[hushed egret]

anyone know if enfeeble, the smite passive that increases all damage dealt to electrocuted enemies, applies when enemies are shocked by the zap staff?

[polar drift]

Well, I'm using the MKV Blaze, which is why I need something for armor

[fresh reef]

@nocturne dust you should probably know that the lmb spam node doesn't work for purgatus

[sturdy reef]

U mean mettle?

[nocturne dust]

Ah. Well, Illisi is alright with uncanny against crushers.

[ripe obsidian]

Mettle works on LMB.

Mettle doesn't work on RMB.

[nocturne dust]

I'm aware

[sturdy reef]

Its first tick only for rmb

[fresh reef]

excellent

[nocturne dust]

Warp Splitting doesn't work either for purg, lol

But Purg was probably the best staff for that nonsense

[sturdy reef]

Yeah thats why I dumped it

[fresh reef]

ya

since it doesn't really need talents

[sturdy reef]

I still think you dont need warp splitting for purg anyway

[fresh reef]

just burn em

[ripe obsidian]

Does purg not have infinite cleave?

[nocturne dust]

It does

[sturdy reef]

Id rather get empathic evasion

[nocturne dust]

which is why warp splitting does nothing

[ripe obsidian]

Okay, I thought so.

Just was confused.

[ripe obsidian]

Aye.

[nocturne dust]

dOuBlY iNfiNiTe

Infinite 2

[thorn cedar]

twinfinite

[fresh reef]

infinity% cleave

[ripe obsidian]

I was testing this yesterday.

[sturdy reef]

Ogrinfinite

[nocturne dust]

Dang, immediately outdone by random bystander

[thorn cedar]

tbf ive used it before

[nocturne dust]

I mean I still had wildfire and PC so it wasn't too bad, would've had a lot more trouble without those nodes

Lacking fire shriek was painful tho

[sturdy reef]

I prefer bubble on purg for support

[nocturne dust]

Shrieking and only getting rid of 10% peril

[polar drift]

Really? Good to know

[fresh reef]

genuinely, utterly useless

[hushed egret]

we got infinite 2 before gta6

[sturdy reef]

And also to make up for its range

[fresh reef]

I tried the symmetry build once

[sturdy reef]

Base shriek is 100% useless ya

[nocturne dust]

It actually still saved me once in the run when I wasn't paying attention

[fresh reef]

totally unupgraded shriek is so, so ass

[sturdy reef]

Gimme brain burst in middle colimn, FS

Fuck it

[fresh reef]

though tbf I tried it with Surge and not Purgatus

[hushed egret]

anyone know about this?

[fresh reef]

probably easier with the lowest peril generating staff

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, surge would be painful with no ER and no flame shriek

[sturdy reef]

Infernus scriers gaze is fun

Get in fire reborn for lots of uptime

[radiant frigate]

infernus? or inferno staff?

[sturdy reef]

Inferno

Gotta invest a lot into SG though for warp unbound

Otherwise its a waste

[hushed egret]

flame staff seems like the one staff with scriers where you WOULDNT want warp unbound

[sturdy reef]

Probably works better on the other staves tho tbf

[nocturne dust]

Eh, you still want warp unbound for any staffker with scrier's imo

10 seconds of max peril is neat

[sturdy reef]

You will detonate if not

Might get caught by ragers and need to spam primary fire for ex

[hushed egret]

flame staff doesnt trigger perils of the warp if your mid attack, it only triggers in attack activation. like brain burst

[sturdy reef]

Yes

[hushed egret]

and you can easily fit one full charged secondary in most of the 10 seconds warp unbound would last, and it doesnt cost much time to quell like 10-15% peril before doing another. or using the skill at the top that has a chance to quell 10% on kill. that skill makes flame staff secondaries almost free, if not cheaper if the hirde is dense enough

just saying that warp unbound doesnt really change your game plan with flame staff. it just makes it mkre convenient. for the other staffs, your game plan massively changes

[nocturne dust]

That's fair.

[hearty wolf]

Talking about Scrier's

[hushed egret]

ye

[hearty wolf]

For void strike, am I going precog or reality anchor

[sturdy reef]

Ya its more of convenience for me with inferno

[nocturne dust]

precog

[jovial juniper]

Reality Anchor still C tier

[hushed egret]

trying to remember what skills those are

[nocturne dust]

Imagine if they made it 90%

[hearty wolf]

I see.

I feel like I'm constantly at 100% peril either way. I also discovered the horrible sound that going from 99 - 100% peril multiple times in a short frame brings

[hushed egret]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

There's an option somewhere to turn that noise down iirc

[hushed egret]

that sound triggers at 97% btw

[hearty wolf]

I'm gonna have to look into that lmao

[nocturne dust]

It might be in interface?

I don't recall

[radiant frigate]

nails on chalkboard

[sturdy reef]

It sounds like whiplash

[hearty wolf]

Oh that's good to know. Also I assume the purple stuff on the screen is triggered at the same?

[nocturne dust]

It's why I overquell

[hushed egret]

I like having that sound personally. it's really obnoxious when you're constantly triggering it, but it's a great warning for general play imo

[nocturne dust]

Yeh the obviousness of it is good imo

[radiant frigate]

"go on, cast some more, i dare you"

[hushed egret]

probably about so

[sturdy reef]

FS have it constantly play at that peril range so you die to the silent poxburster around the corner

[hearty wolf]

I sort of need it since I am still levelling but I was backed into a corner with ragers, red stim effect and being toastied. I was almost wishing I died so I didn't have to hear whatever that was

[sturdy reef]

True story

[hushed egret]

exactly. I actually went all of my last game only triggering the sound like three times, which is really damn low for me. empyric resolve is so much fun

more specifically it was a primary spam crit build with all the zappy stuff

[sturdy reef]

Empyric resolve is addictive

[nocturne dust]

yes

[sturdy reef]

Then I try to make melee psyker work and I wish it back

[hushed egret]

since everything builds low amounts of peril, cant really hit that sound without suiciding

I only enjoy psyker with staffs so empyric will be a mainstay

[flint pawn]

I feel like playing Psyker but idk what type of build to use today

[hushed egret]

I love the new primary fire passives btw. staffs can be pretty spammy when you only use secondary

[sturdy reef]

Gunfu psyker is fun

Heavy laspistol > recon las for it imo

Push attack and the crit/finesse bonus it has is nice

[hushed egret]

zap staff with primary fire skills

[jovial juniper]

Scrier's Smite

I will not elaborate further

[hushed egret]

warp unbound smite

[flint pawn]

I am not playing smite

[jovial juniper]

[sturdy reef]

Warp unbound smite with empowered psionics

[hushed egret]

lmfao

[sturdy reef]

Imma do it now

Thanks

[jovial juniper]

Get ER

[hushed egret]

just 25 seconds of smite

[flint pawn]

I don't even remember what Warp Unbound is by name 😭

[jovial juniper]

And the ranged damage node

[sturdy reef]

I was just thinking of that

[hushed egret]

scriers gaze: after it ends, cant explode for 10 seconds

[sturdy reef]

Ill get empathic evasion and the other one that increases dodge duration too

[flint pawn]

why..

[sturdy reef]

No perilous combustion or soulfire nodes

Mega cursed

[flint pawn]

:(

[jovial juniper]

Ask FS

[hushed egret]

for 10 more seconds of smite

[sturdy reef]

No no no

Disrupt destiny smite ker

Warp unbound

Holy shit

[jovial juniper]

That is criminal

[hushed egret]

disrupt destiny?

[sturdy reef]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[flint pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-this-channel-patrick-star-spongebob-meme-discord-gif-23869882

[steel flame]

hang on a second.....

[sturdy reef]

Absolutely crime animal

[flint pawn]

I guess I must choose a Psyker build on my own

therefore.. toughness tank

[sturdy reef]

Yes

Invest in tgh damage reduction just to get outtanked by some ski mask wearing hobo

[jovial juniper]

Because he dodge

[sturdy reef]

Who decided to go down the middle tree

[jovial juniper]

[steel flame]

my god, dd smite is such a genius move, ive never seen a combo with such...an utter void of synergy XP

[sturdy reef]

Lul

We must go further

[flint pawn]

oh yeah.

[raven mountain]

No, see, it makes perfect sense!

Scrier's gives damage.

[sturdy reef]

Warp unbound warp charge brain burst

[raven mountain]

Smite gives aoe

And dd enemies die to it

Synergy!

[sturdy reef]

!!!!

[raven mountain]

It's all part of the weave.

[steel flame]

-_-

[sturdy reef]

Im so very glad you see it the way I do sibling

[jovial juniper]

🤮

[flint pawn]

keystoneless toughness tank psyker

this is the way

alright now to not actually use this

[nocturne dust]

Psyker with max durability can survive a crusher overhead (with bubble) by like 2 HP

[raven mountain]

But why take Kinetic flayer and the bubble mods? You could have taken more passives.

[nocturne dust]

Is that before or after the Crusher overhead buff

[flint pawn]

this is after taking the crusher overhead

[nocturne dust]

Right

[flint pawn]

oh wait

I'm stupid

this is post buff

[sturdy reef]

Lmao

[flint pawn]

so 832 damage

[nocturne dust]

[flint pawn]

recreating this in-game is insanely unrealistic

[nocturne dust]

How are you surviving with so much HP?

[flint pawn]

this is purely toughness tank

with 3x +17% +5% curios, all toughness perks, as many toughness and tdr perks as I could get, OtwW and the Dome Shield buff when it expires

it takes ALL of this

while at max or near max peril

but technically

it IS possible for a Psyker to toughness tank a post-buff Crusher overhead entirely independently

[nocturne dust]

[flint pawn]

and Crushers still bleed through like 20% of their damage if they fail to break toughness

[nocturne dust]

You mean if they succeed?

[flint pawn]

no, if they fail

you see in that image

I still have 22 toughness left

[nocturne dust]

Ah, that's what you mean

[flint pawn]

Crushers have a guaranteed HP damage bleed through if they don't break toughness

[raven mountain]

Dis. Dis eez de wae.

[flint pawn]

specifically if you don't have gold toughness

you can toughness tank with gold toughness and it won't have the guaranteed HP bleed

[nocturne dust]

You should be able to block overheads

[raven mountain]

None of those silly skill mods. Just all the greatest passives. Passives like you've never seen.

[flint pawn]

I think Ogryns should be able to block mauler and crusher overheads with all of their weapons but just consume a metric ton of stamina unless it's done with the shield

[nocturne dust]

It should be anyone

Consume 5 blocks of stamina to block an overhead

[flint pawn]

at the very least I feel like Maulers should be blockable to some serious expense that isn't just killing you through the block

Crushers at least makes that much more sense because y'know

overhead from an Ogryn

I remember thinking surely I could block Maulers when I first made my Ogryn

[nocturne dust]

Blocking just needs more, it gets left by the wayside compared to dodging without KD

[flint pawn]

I was on the floor very soon after

anyways turned my previous abomination into this I guess

still got 200 toughness Psyker 👍

you could also do this with smite but... please don't

[flint pawn]

don't you do it

[sturdy reef]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-star-wars-emperor-palpatine-palpatine-gif-799657800635657398

[flint pawn]

the points are too tight for luxuries like 6 warp charges or empathic evasion but you can make toughness tank soulblaze trauma work to its own extent too

[sturdy reef]

Are they ever gonna buff or change the left node of venting shriek

Lol

[flint pawn]

idk if I'd ever run this specific build because soulblaze trauma without kinetic flayer doesn't feel as fun

[sturdy reef]

Dunno what its called

[flint pawn]

Warp Rupture

which dueling sword had the comically large dodges

[thorn cedar]

mk5

[raven mountain]

Wasn't it the 5? Has both mobility and defenses.

[sturdy reef]

I thought it was mkIV?

Havent used ds in a hot minute

[flint pawn]

seems to be 5 with both defenses and mobi

time to get a ds with 80 in both

[midnight fiber]

hello everyone. when it comes to force swords, is mobility the dump stat?

[flint pawn]

no

it's Warp resist

[midnight fiber]

thank you!

[flint pawn]

👍

[hushed egret]

it can be mobility if you want

but definitely one of those two. just preference which one you prefer

[ripe bear]

illisi perks bl;essings?

[analog agate]

Flak/maniac. slaughter/uncanny

Uncanny to deflector if you want

[ripe bear]

dump stat?

[analog agate]

Warp res

[gray lichen]

is warp res the common dump stat on staffs

[analog agate]

Yes

Besides voidstrike. Blast radius for that one

[gray lichen]

cheers ty

[ripe bear]

new psyker melee tree?

[sturdy reef]

If only

[steel flame]

godi love scriers laspistol

[sturdy reef]

Yes

[sturdy reef]

Come to the darkside

[ripe bear]

build guide?

[sturdy reef]

For melee psyker?

Im not on my pc

[steel flame]

laspistol just eats bosses for breakfast

[ripe bear]

i ment for this

[nocturne dust]

Come to the darktide

[steel flame]

the kill time is stupid fast

[sturdy reef]

AHHHHHHH

[steel flame]

yeah gimme a sec

for normal missions id take maniac

but if you want a 10 second kill time on bosses you take unyielding

[ripe bear]

why only 1 point into scrier

[steel flame]

none of the other nodes really add anything

for this build

[ripe bear]

i got a 60% ammo for heavy las would u roll for a mobility 60?

[nocturne dust]

Center DD node?

[hushed egret]

quell speed is a good dump too

[ripe bear]

dd node?

[hushed egret]

basically the same as dumping warp res

[nocturne dust]

Disrupt Destiny

[steel flame]

eh it works for hordes if im shooting into them for some reason and sometimes i have assail out during scriers

probably can drop it

[ripe bear]

is it bad

[nocturne dust]

DD? No.

[ripe bear]

middle perk

[nocturne dust]

The center node for it? yes

it is bad

[sturdy reef]

Yay 15% peril or whatever

[ripe bear]

@steel flame

[sturdy reef]

Meh

[nocturne dust]

Like Battle Meditation isn't that great

[steel flame]

its a leftover perk from before we got the crit quell

[nocturne dust]

and it isn't limited to a single target

[steel flame]

you should absoulutly reroll for 60% mobility, you will run try super fast

[hushed egret]

the quelling is nice and actually very good. the problem is that it's tied to highlighted enemies, unlike the very similar perk at the top of the tree which can occur on every enemy you kill

[nocturne dust]

It's not that good

[sturdy reef]

Too specific

Not enough payout imo

[hushed egret]

exactly, too specific

[nocturne dust]

I mean even if you doubled Battle Meditation's % to proc it'd still be kinda eh

[ripe bear]

is this just for bosses or is the boss damage jsut v high

[hushed egret]

battle meditation is good

[nocturne dust]

It's not

[steel flame]

the boss damage just happens to be really fucking high

[nocturne dust]

Battle Meditation is meh

[sturdy reef]

Its not bad

[steel flame]

it also shreds elites and oneshots most mobs on headshots

[sturdy reef]

I generally find I dont need BM

[hushed egret]

triggers constantly, and I can consistently avoid quelling as a result while spamming staff

[steel flame]

but if you spam into hordes you'll run your ammo dry which is why assail is there

[sturdy reef]

Nah gimme high peril

[nocturne dust]

BM is too random and can quell at the wrong time, actually hurting you

[hushed egret]

weapon dependent though for sure

[nocturne dust]

I don't know of any staff except purgatus where BM would actually allow you to avoid quelling

[ripe bear]

why infernus

[hushed egret]

there isnt really a "wrong time" with only 10% when you're constantly at high peril. only "wrong time" is when you're low, which even then is fine

[nocturne dust]

and that's in combination with ER on purg

[hushed egret]

well not completely avoid, but minimizes it noticeably

[nocturne dust]

It can be wasted tho

If it quells 10% mid-purg, it will do nothing because you were already going towards 100% anyway

[steel flame]

@ripe bear you have over 60% crit chance on the laspistol during scriers and a super fast fire rate so infernus stacks nearly instatly and it gets all the damage buffs from the build added to the dot, including dumdum, and that makes the fire dot fuck bosses up

[nocturne dust]

Noticeably is a stretch.

It's just not a very effective node. There are better nodes to take. Nothing against taking it if you like it, though. Do what you like.

[hushed egret]

not really. can regularly get +1 full charged secondary on trauma and purgatus because of the skill

it gets more noticeable now that we have ER

that makes it much better

[ripe bear]

curios?

[nocturne dust]

But the thing is ER already makes quelling much less of a thing

The benefit from BM is minimal, because quelling doesn't take that much time with ER anyway

and if it procs a couple times in rapid succession, you're no longer in high peril

[steel flame]

probably preference but i run 3 17% toughness with toughness regen and gunner resist. the third slot is whatever you want. rn i have 3 ability regen for giggles

[hushed egret]

yeah, but you still need to manually quell if you're constantly using peril tools. battle meditation allows you to be more loose with your spellcasting, and spam even more

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but not anywhere near the 'spam even more' that ER enables.

Like, yes, you can technically spam more with a horde-clearing staff.

But often it won't help.

[hushed egret]

yeah but combined with ER you reduce the amount you need to quell by a noteable margin, when doing crowd clear stuff

[steel flame]

i would say battle meditation is best with void staff or fire staff

but thats probably it

[strong gulch]

These ogryns.

[steel flame]

actually peak

[nocturne dust]

I would agree, but even on those staves it's not worthwhile compared to the other options.

[ripe bear]

3rd will be ordodockets'

[hushed egret]

like yeah it isnt an amazing node, but it isnt bad. you can get some very real value out of it

[nocturne dust]

Eeeehhh, no, the value is very minimal.

If it's at all there, if you happen to be unlucky.

[steel flame]

it used to be better when better options didnt exist

we now have better options

[nocturne dust]

Opportunity cost

[hushed egret]

true, but one of said better options also made it better

[nocturne dust]

Eh, not really.

Yes, 10% peril is 'more', but also you spend way less time quelling already with ER.

So the end effect is kinda almost negative for BM, because the value of 'even less quelling' isn't much.

[hushed egret]

and you can very noteably lower that further with ER. especially if you dump quell speed instead of warp res

[nocturne dust]

🤢

[steel flame]

ive hit a weird impasse. tranquility through slaughter is both increasing and decreasing my laspistol damage output at the same time.

[nocturne dust]

You shouldn't dump quell speed. Again, you can if you like, but meta-wise, warp res does way less.

[hushed egret]

they both do about the same in reality

"metas" just tend to overexaggerate power differences

[nocturne dust]

No

[steel flame]

i dont get the damage boost from warp rider because the laspistol crits so much that it keeps peril at zero during scriers, but it does mean i can stay in scriers indefinelty for more crits

[nocturne dust]

The % difference of 60-80 warp res isn't much at all, whereas quell speed 60-80 actually does do quite a bit for quell speed

Like, warp res doesn't generally change how many full-charge attacks you can do between 60 and 80, except when going from 0 to 100 on EK, and even then it just barely manages to do that and only by 1 attack (which is a rare instance, you don't generally stick around 0 peril in battle, lol)

[dusk void]

I dump quell speed on my trauma psyker because of Solidity. And I do the slide quell cancel

[nocturne dust]

Whereas quell speed actually shaves off quite a bit of time quelling

[nocturne dust]

Even with solidity, dumping quell speed is not great

[hushed egret]

it is a much larger difference, this is true, but you already dont have to hold quell for long to open yourself up for magic shenanigans again, quelling is fastest at start up, and quell speed doesnt change the animation before quelling starts anyways, plus you can quell in other ways like swapping melee, the melee weakspot quelling skill, the headshot quelling blessing for the like of Voidstrike, and battle meditation

[sturdy reef]

Just wait a second tbh and eventually the ramp up will bring your peril right up

[nocturne dust]

There is an argument I guess if you do slide quelling, but I don't mess with that nonsense 🤷‍♂️

[steel flame]

see thats the problem, the laspistol fires fast enough and crits enough to reduce it back to zero again almost instantly XP

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but you will always have to manually quell in all but the most absurd cases

and also using the quell blessing is bad too, because then you lose out on warp nexus/surge (or flurry if you still use that)

[hushed egret]

idk what that is but I only hold quell button for longer than half a second if I have nothing else to do and need lower peril to spam more soon, and close to a quarter of that time is spent beginning the animation to quell, not actually quelling. so warp res ultimately gets me more value

[steel flame]

mmmmmm, im not saying anything of what your saying isnt right, but it is annoying always comming into chat and seeing the same person dominating every single conversation -_-

[nocturne dust]

It adds up though, the time you save with each quell. Warp res doesn't do anything for the most part. 🤷‍♂️

[hushed egret]

it's really not, considering it lets you shoot almost twice as many bolts in the same amount of peril, more against large enough crowds

[nocturne dust]

Stop being here when I'm here then

[steel flame]

i dont think youre ever not here

[nocturne dust]

I sleep

[hushed egret]

the peril you save adds up too, and the peril you save also reduces how much time you spend quelling to get to the same point

[nocturne dust]

sometimes

[nocturne dust]

It's been mathed out

It's not a good trade.

[hushed egret]

math doesnt apply in this context. it's a by situation thing

[nocturne dust]

[hushed egret]

realistically, you dint hold quell button for long

especially if you want to be above 80%

[nocturne dust]

exactly, so how is the peril blessing worth more than other things?

[hushed egret]

and if you need more quell speed badly enough, there's a 30% skill in the tree that applies to all weapons for consistency

[nocturne dust]

Yes, and that stacks with 60->80 so idk wat you mean

idk how that is worse than the warp res stat that does very, very little, and also stacks with ER

[hushed egret]

because you can quell less often and thus charge attacks mkre often. the amount of times you quell adds up with the animation startup. the less you do that, the more uptime you have

[hushed egret]

I never said it was worse

[nocturne dust]

Sure, except +20% crit chance and literally double balls on a crit is vastly better damage output in almost every situation

🤷‍♂️

[nocturne dust]

It's not equal either, because warp res really is not doing much compared to quell speed.

[hushed egret]

it probably is overall slightly better, but it has a weakness in being forced to quell more often which overall means less uptime, so it's preferential. being able to cast more before quelling is great for when you're stuck in a corner or otherwise need as much firepower at hand as soon as possible. you'll find opportunities to quell, so you dont really need to do it faster, but the more peril you build up the less you can achieve when you need more peril

[nocturne dust]

Dumping quell speed makes you have to quell longer. Dumping warp res doesn't really give you less attacks. This is with or without ER/solidity.

The math is simple.

[hushed egret]

it does give you less attacks though, or at least higher charge ones

[nocturne dust]

It gives you one less attack on EK. Out of 8 with ER.

[hushed egret]

quelling faster is mathematically better, but in combat, you'll have time to quell, and you'll be asked to use your melee weapon which allows you to passivley quell

so having more attacks when you need it is a solid advantage

[nocturne dust]

Melee only lets you do that with crack of bone, really. Auric is fast enough that it's better to just manually quell and dodge than swap to melee.

[hushed egret]

it's a mathematucally much lower advantage, but it's in a much more valueable context than quelling

[nocturne dust]

Furthermore, you have time to quell, yes, but you don't want to be spending time doing it if you can help it. You want to be attacking.

[steel flame]

boy i remember when the dueling sword had enough passive quell to out quell a demon host with deflection. those were the good ole days

[hushed egret]

in auric, you'll be forced to your melee for defense regularly, so your "auric is too fast" actually means the opposite lol

[nocturne dust]

True but untrue

You're not forced to your melee

You absolutely can dodge and manually quell and then continue spamming attacks

[hushed egret]

so warp res, since most of your time spent quelling is the animation startup

[nocturne dust]

Except it doesn't give you any more attacks, as I said

[hushed egret]

true but you'll want to use your melee here and there

[steel flame]

gonna chime in and say that doesnt make any dam sense

[nocturne dust]

only on one staff is it remotely helpful

[hushed egret]

but it really does

[lime yew]

does the Telekentic dome count for the "block 600dmg is 10 secs" penance?

[nocturne dust]

Sure, to deal with some specific enemies. Staffker rarely ever pulls out their melee to passively quell, that's ridiculous.

[steel flame]

dont think so no,

[fiery stratus]

easiest way to do that is shield ogryn blocking daemonhost with special

[hushed egret]

not for specifically that reason, but it'll happen, especially if your melee is for specific uses like horde clear or faster anti armor, or just to shove so you can reset an oncoming horde

[steel flame]

you can also do a funny, get 3 +3 stamina relics, diemos with deflector, take the kinitic deflection talent, and stand in front of 20 gunners

[nocturne dust]

Passive quelling doesn't start that quickly and doesn't go that fast

[hushed egret]

it's fast enough

to matter

[nocturne dust]

It matters, yes, but it's not worth dumping the wrong stat 😭

[steel flame]

dude just dump warp resist, you can earn back what you lose with 2 peril resistance nodes you are almost garenteed to pick up in the talent tree -_-

[nocturne dust]

Eh, it's fine

[left basin]

schlumbing sneed is the dump stat

[nocturne dust]

They can dump whatever they like

They'll just be wrong

[steel flame]

based

[nocturne dust]

I should really just take the Dorn approach and drop my advice and leave

[steel flame]

well now that that farce is over

i can sleep in peace

Zzzzzz

that reminds me, ineed to level up the combat shotgun now

[sturdy reef]

combat shotty vet

mmmmmm

so fun

[steel flame]

has anyone tried a scriers build with the flechette fire shotty rounds

[nocturne dust]

Someone was talking about using shotty gunker iirc

but something about it just being worse voidstrike 🤷‍♂️

[steel flame]

i wish double barrel had performed

at least it has the funny interaction of always being able to stay at 100% peril

with the funny reload talent

i probably need to try a non crit build for it

[nocturne dust]

just buff it so it has no falloff

[strong gulch]

I think @fresh reef has.

[steel flame]

ive been kittting out zealot from scratch so im a bit dry on resources to get my shotty leveled up

[fresh reef]

hi hi hi

@steel flame it's certifiably useable!

[nocturne dust]

stunning praise

[fresh reef]

like, you won't get anywhere near the performance of Columnus 5

but its fun

[steel flame]

well its better than dd/smite

so ill takeit

[fresh reef]

literally anything is better than smite

also, you don't really need to take scrier's for the shotguns

you can, but other abilities also work if you prefer shriek

[steel flame]

i mean......fire shout EP smite can hit a million damage pretty handly so i wouldnt call smite bad.....but thats another converstion

[fresh reef]

fire EP, can hit 1m easily

smite really isnt doing much

[steel flame]

you would be surprised

[nocturne dust]

Smitekers about to charged strike you

[fresh reef]

oh no, not the 12 dps dot

[nocturne dust]

[fresh reef]

smykers zapping me with their silly lightning when I shoot them with a fucking bolter round

[nocturne dust]

you missing because you're being stunned and your crosshairs are pre-buff Bolter-style

[fresh reef]

nah I'd win

hit em with that payday 2 tazer tech

[nocturne dust]

hit em with a rock

[viral crater]

best blessings for dueling sword???

[nocturne dust]

uncanny and [preference]

[steel flame]

its closer to 180 dps dot but whatever 😛

[nocturne dust]

I like thrust

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/default-dance-fortnite-jonesy-gif-15544813113505236864

[kindred ivy]

if smiteso bad, why smite so good?

[jovial juniper]

Hope you have more than 20 mass

[kindred ivy]

also, why smite keeps getting buffed/

i dont get it

its like, always buffs

and always huge buffs too

[jovial juniper]

Bad players

[steel flame]

because the people are idiots and dont know how to use it

[kindred ivy]

erhg

[nocturne dust]

I hope they buff smite so it just deletes bosses and crushers too

[kindred ivy]

it does good dmg already

[steel flame]

so they keep buffing it so the morons can perform

[kindred ivy]

its so stupid

at +135% dmg on empowered psyonics it was fine already

really fine

[jovial juniper]

I'm betting it just needs pots to work

[kindred ivy]

but 200%???

why?

[jovial juniper]

Give me pots FS

Karking fix it

[nocturne dust]

10% rending? Hhhhhmmm I don't think so but maybe if they buff PotS at the same time as fixing it

[kindred ivy]

jsut kill 1/2 eltiues with somthign befire smiting so u get perilous combustion

and done

[nocturne dust]

or shriek like a little child

[steel flame]

we should make smite crit next so it infintly triggers empathic evasion,

[kindred ivy]

true

[kindred ivy]

scrizer gaze smite

would be hilarious

tbh smite shriek is probably one of the easiest ways ti win everything

pair with a good elite kill weapon, like revovler

and any mission might aswell be tier1

[jovial juniper]

It's already dealing ~70% of a Crusher's health without pots 😭

[steel flame]

i dont use it often because it kinda ruins the experience for everyone else because they dont get do to anything except watch it melt the map\

[nocturne dust]

Takes too long

[kindred ivy]

i do run a lote smite shriek revovler.

[nocturne dust]

Someone else might get the kill

Must insta-delete crushers or smite is still too weak

[kindred ivy]

i recall running it wayy long ago while people kept saying it was dogshite. ??

but yeah it can be fugged.

its not only the fact that it kills quickly, it doesnt let enemiees group

and makes players have to walk all the way to the bounced smite on the othe side of the room to ahve a chance at killing

[nocturne dust]

blackhole staff for grouping wheeeeeeeennn

[kindred ivy]

that would be interesting.

i`ll lever forget who kept saying smite shriek was bad here.

[nocturne dust]

I would be fine with it doing literally no damage as long as it had a big AoE

[kindred ivy]

well actually i did forget who, but not the message

i do ahve fun nowadays with the firestaff

but it legit feels worse than smite now.

[nocturne dust]

Smite shriek is bad because it's not fun

[kindred ivy]

i have fun wiht it.

but i can see why boring for others

[nocturne dust]

[jovial juniper]

This does remind me to test Scrier's Precognition BB

[kindred ivy]

i like getting 1400 out of 2600m kills in a missoin :DX:

outside of that tho, fire still feels weaker than smite to me

[nocturne dust]

You can do that with staves tho

[digital hill]

Fire is life.

So is sword.

[kindred ivy]

fire is awesome, and does boss dmg.

[nocturne dust]

or really anything as long as you have bad enough teammates

[kindred ivy]

:DX:

real

but i feel like it fire still underperformns smite on horde clear

not on boss dmg ofc.

[digital hill]

I like running jank builds for fun and still manage to pull my weight. Can make anything work to some degree.

[kindred ivy]

but like, not having to worru about enemies even reaching you? that is priceless imo

[digital hill]

Pfft. You go to enemy.

[kindred ivy]

:DX:

on the new event : 9 nurgle puppy missions

[nocturne dust]

It's why I like movespeed

Why let the enemies come to you

[kindred ivy]

its nice beeing able to not worry about horde while team plays fetch witht he doggy

[nocturne dust]

Anti-heretic home delivery

[digital hill]

Man, my wrist has genuinely grown tired from slashing at a horde all by myself lol

Moments of like, its not so bad if I just die right

can rest.

[nocturne dust]

May I introduce you to mods

[digital hill]

Nein. I must suffer for the Emperor.

[nocturne dust]

then don't take any talents

or weapons

Max suffering

[jovial juniper]

Ok
So Scrier's Precog, EP, BB and Warp Rider is like 2400 damage to a Crusher
Lmao

[digital hill]

I already have memory leaks with it, I don't want to introduce complications. I have to reinstall it once a week or so.

[digital hill]

I just started playing with Scrier's Gaze builds. It's a lot of fun, feels absurdly powerful against hordes with just a blaze sword. Can chop foreeeever.

[nocturne dust]

what about DD

[jovial juniper]

I have no way of stacking DD

[sturdy reef]

I was getting fatigued just doing normal lmb on staff primary attack

now Im quell cancelling and I dont feel a thing

same day

dont get it

[nocturne dust]

Have you considered gun

[sturdy reef]

assail