I put that shit on everything
#psyker-class
austere warren
nocturne dust
I was never a sienna enjoyer
Darktide should make its own staves, with blackjack! And hookers!
austere warren
The fire skulls from pyromancer.
And the original assail, that fire bolt that she can throw.
flint pawn
The fire skulls from pyromancer.
no, not either of these
I don't have the game installed i can't check what one I'm thinking about
austere warren
Not the fire arrows that she can toss?
austere warren
I know what you're talking about though
ripe obsidian
Both had shotgun LMB
austere warren
Yeah beam had the alt fire.
flint pawn
Conflag is the one yeah
radiant frigate
wasn't conflag just little bolts
flint pawn
Give us that
radiant frigate
like trauma
austere warren
Didn't know conflagration did that too
radiant frigate
as opposed to the "eat shit maulers/berserkers get oneshot" of coruscatoni
austere warren
We already have most of them
flint pawn
Beam was hold down right click and then shoot a sort of blast
ripe obsidian
I thought it was both?
nocturne dust
Idk, Darktide staves feel pretty different to me
flint pawn
And then the other staff just shot like 20 bolts while the right click charge did something else
ripe obsidian
I mostly used bolt and fireball on Sienna when I played her
flint pawn
no it was Coruscation
jovial juniper
With beam you could hold M1 for 1.5 secs iirc then M2 for big damage
M2 itself was a close range shotgun
radiant frigate
well we have juiced up bolt/fireball hybrid (voidstrike) , an amalgamation of coruscatoni/conflag (pretty much 1:1 except for coru shotgun, voidblast), flamer which is the same thing, and surge which is its own
ripe obsidian
no it was Coruscation
Oops. That's what I meant. My mistake
austere warren
Minus beam and maybe something else I'm not thinking of, darktide force staves are mostly just EX versions of their vt2 contemporaries. And psyker broadly is obviously taking from sienna building blocks and multiple talents and expanding on them further.
nocturne dust
The shotgun staff will just be a confetti cannon loaded with anti-microbial paper
ripe obsidian
I'd say trauma and coruscation are meaningfully different.
austere warren
No force version of the fire dagger or the sword and claw for us yet.
flint pawn
The shotgun staff will just be a confetti cannon loaded with anti-microbial pape...
and I'd absolutely run it
flint pawn
only 1 shot
AMMO QUICKLY
austere warren
I'd say trauma and coruscation are meaningfully different.
Aside from how you needed to approach, what else is there? It's been a while since i played vt2.
flint pawn
if it's only 1 shot does this mean that the small ammo boxes restore 100% ammo
austere warren
Right click, hold build your circle, pop your circle. Fire instead of light teal whatever that substance is supposed to be.
flint pawn
does veteran's scavenger recover 100% ammo 
ripe obsidian
Coruscation has multiple fire pits that burn for several seconds and inflict massive DoT but low immediate damage
nocturne dust
if it's only 1 shot does this mean that the small ammo boxes restore 100% ammo
they restore 0%
ripe obsidian
And you can just block off a path with 3+ fire pits
flint pawn
they restore 0% <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
:(
austere warren
This is true
ripe obsidian
Trauma is one at a time and huge knockback with less DoT
nocturne dust
does veteran's scavenger recover 100% ammo <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
yes. You are forever tied to vet with that aura.
austere warren
It went from dot to burst in darktide. I guess the dot come from uh, soul blaze interactions
flint pawn
so mandatory pocket veteran, gotcha
ripe obsidian
Coruscation Sienna was frustrating to play with. You didn't get any temp HP as anyone else. Didn't get to play the game, cause everything burned before it came close.
nocturne dust
Inferno is... well
flint pawn
alright psyker chat in particular I must ask a very important question not actually related to psyker at all
nocturne dust
alright psyker chat in particular I must ask a very important question not actua...
no
flint pawn
how many of you play with the in-game music, and how many of you play your own music in the background
nocturne dust
how many of you play with the in-game music, and how many of you play your own m...
I play with audio cues 
wind spruce
how many of you play with the in-game music, and how many of you play your own m...
Only noobs play with background music
flint pawn
I love the in-game music but sometimes I need to play auric maelstrom with Spiritbox going
flat shadow
My friend is a psychotic gamer and plays with music off in all his games
It's really weird to watch his streams and it's dead silence
flint pawn
It's really weird to watch his streams and it's dead silence
oh god
nocturne dust
the in game music is so good
It's weird. It definitely grows on you.
flint pawn
background music is at least better than that
wind spruce
Music off is fine, but non-darktide music can obscure audio cues which is unacceptable
nocturne dust
Music off is fine, but non-darktide music can obscure audio cues which is unacce...
Just turn down the other music
🤷♂️
wind spruce
Just turn down the other music
All the way to zero, yes-yes
nocturne dust
All the way to zero, yes-yes
flat shadow
It's weird. It definitely grows on you.
it's all pretty good, even if some of it isn't something you would just turn on and listen to
nocturne dust
It fits.
flat shadow
Clandestium Gloriana isn't exactly rave music but it fits the area
hollow jolt
listening to my anime girl music or listening to trapper sound cues
the Emperor tests me
flat shadow
there's a few places where audio cues don't work properly because the thing making the audio is in like a different block of the level so they're quiet
Specifically I think of manufactorum hl1736
hollow jolt
or any Hunting Grounds lol
flat shadow
That room with the bridge in the middle across
flint pawn
I keep my music low enough so I don't miss out audio cues
flat shadow
Music is there to keep me still when I draw
otherwise I just use game music from the game
flint pawn
the main downside for when I use music is that I can't hear heretical idols sometimes
nocturne dust
the main downside for when I use music is that I can't hear heretical idols some...
Have you considered mods
echo root
how many of you play with the in-game music, and how many of you play your own m...
Ingame music cause immersion.
haughty star
Dude the music for this game slaps
hollow jolt
listening to renai circulation for the 50th time or listen to the psyker get mauled by a dog...
my resolve is tested UwU
flint pawn
Have you considered mods
I have
I know there's mods to help find stuff like books and idols but I'm able to hear them
jovial juniper
Rainbow Tylenol or Bursters ticking noise
echo root
Dude the music for this game slaps
This is and the extract song are my favorites
https://open.spotify.com/track/4ancSYOtFvCnAI7lS7KrSS?si=17757a4d47054107
jovial juniper
Truly one of the choices
radiant frigate
my resolve is tested UwU
dazed, reeling, about to break
echo root
I never played either of the Vermintide games 
quartz barn
i think ive found something harder than am solos
mossy oyster
carrying a heresy maelstrom pub
quartz barn
run regular damnation board missions, but with all grimoires
mossy oyster
LOL
echo root
i think ive found something harder than am solos
Me when there's a goth girl around? What did you find?
mossy oyster
Unironically grims smoke the fuck out of pubbers
1 grim and people die 30% more
it’s unreal
quartz barn
excise vault too lmao
hollow jolt
the only time people were good at handling grims was the Moebian 21st event
quartz barn
still got both grims tho
mossy oyster
Oh nah I hate excise finale lmfao
quartz barn
also got 7 revives and rescues but eh
prime elk
Unironically grims smoke the fuck out of pubbers
The single action that can do the most damage to a pubby team
Hate it when people take grims in pubs
zinc phoenix
Dude the music for this game slaps
True truths
prime elk
Especially when I’m playing psyker
zinc phoenix
Grims are easy if you know you’re going for them and everyone puts on grim resist. But if it’s a surprise I get dumpstered to like 30% hp 😂
abstract totem
Would you guys change anything https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d62403b-ebde-410f-b285-b7c41424effe/getting-silly-with-it?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
haughty star
Unironically grims smoke the fuck out of pubbers
Bruh the pox bombers
I might sound like a scrub but I burn every grim I get my filthy little fingers on lol
ripe obsidian
Would you guys change anything https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d62403b...
swap Empathic Evasion for Psychic Vampire
And probably Penetration of the Soul for ER
Is there a particular reason you're using rending instead of blazing soul?
abstract totem
Is there a particular reason you're using rending instead of blazing soul?
Thought rending was the better option but I’ll swap for blazing
ripe obsidian
Nah, blazing soul is silly
And with that in mind, get rid of the toughness node below Warp Rider and put that point into Wildfire
Fire for the fire god
abstract totem
True
ripe obsidian
Empathic Evasion has a pretty low uptime, and since Trauma has ~1/3 crit rate, it won't be up nearly as much as you'd like. Also, Trauma just knocks everyone over, so they can't shoot at you anyway. Bubble shield deals with those that still can, or shriek staggers them, depending on your choice
Penetration of the Soul also has a stupidly low uptime due to needing 75% peril, and 10% is very minimal
Empyric Resolve will give you more consistent benefit of more dakka
And wildfire is more fire
abstract totem
I c I c thank you for your input
radiant frigate
Grims are easy if you know you’re going for them and everyone puts on grim resis...
I LOVE WHEN OGRYNS WHO ARE PASSIVELY IMMUNE TO THEM PICK UP GRIMS while the squishies are wheezing at zero wounds
ripe obsidian
I also prefer flak/crit on Trauma as opposed to flak/carapace to get more fire. Carapace is probably fine? Not sure there
echo root
Maniac / Flak / Carap
ripe obsidian
Flak > maniac for trauma
echo root
Flak if you want more fire dmg I guess
ripe obsidian
Blazing trauma does a massive amount of fire damage
echo root
Hmm, I need to check what I have on mine.
The only staff I like playing shield with is Purgatus
You're so limited with peril while running shield on the others.
ripe obsidian
Condition damage being soulblaze in this
echo root
Not bad.
mossy oyster
Bruh the pox bombers
Something that’s not an active enemy killing players I should say
yea pubbers suck at special management but man I swear I saw someone die 3 times immediately after we picked up 1 grim lmfao
muh woundz and hp…..
haughty star
Penetration of the Soul also has a stupidly low uptime due to needing 75% peril,...
It also doesn't work at all but on the real ER does little to nothing for trauma
With the charge time it's kind of a non issue sorta deal
radiant frigate
penetration of the soul should have no requirement
abstract totem
I guess while we’re here what’s your guys favorite build I’m trying to find something I like that isn’t gunker
ripe obsidian
It also doesn't work at all but on the real ER does little to nothing for trauma
w/ 60% warp resist, a fully charged Trauma RMB costs like 27% peril
ER allows you to one-tick quell and do another fully charged one
ripe obsidian
Yeah, I don't use ER on Voidstrike
haughty star
The name changes really got me fucked up lol
ripe obsidian
I guess while we’re here what’s your guys favorite build I’m trying to find some...
Voidstrike is my favorite. Blow up everything in a line
Voidstrike on the train is hilarious
haughty star
I guess while we’re here what’s your guys favorite build I’m trying to find some...
This with Voidstrike and Deimos or DS4
Basically plasma psyker with space throwing knives
ripe obsidian
Mine's basically the same but with Smite so I can get Psykinetic's Aura
abstract totem
Is there a point to assail or is it just to get everything needed
ripe obsidian
Assail a) shreds hordes and b) makes malefic momentum do things
digital narwhal
Assail is the Blitz that best defines Psyker's high swap, high APM playstyle.
And it's strong.
:D
abstract totem
Ah I see
ripe obsidian
Assail is good
Smite is more of an "oh shit" button for me than anything. Some matches I don't use it at all.
abstract totem
Oh I guess I don’t really have a smite build
I just never saw the fun in it
Mostly because there is none
ripe obsidian
It's nice to have sometimes.
My only consistent use for it is hunting grounds modifiers
Lock down all the dogs and shriek at them
abstract totem
I’ll guess make one just for varieties sake
Or just go with the build I had yesterday
prime elk
Smite is more of an "oh shit" button for me than anything. Some matches I don't ...
can be your dedicated horde clear weapon too, should you wish it
because it's dumb like that
ripe obsidian
Could be. But I don't find that fun
ripe obsidian
This with Voidstrike and Deimos or DS4
I'm torn between DS4 and Illisi for my voidstrike. I enjoy both. Illisi is less fun, but better for hordes and easily getting peril up. DS4 is sillier
abstract totem
Is ep or dd better if you’re focusing on assails
ripe obsidian
DD
abstract totem
Kinda sad but good to know
ripe obsidian
Use EP if you prefer it
digital narwhal
Is ep or dd better if you’re focusing on assails
Both are fine
They offer seperate benefits
abstract totem
It’s just a tep build I’m trying out I don’t know if it’s staying
digital narwhal
DD is a more universal buff, and probably what you want if you're rocking Gun Psyker w/ Assail
but EP gives some pretty nice "Infinite Assail" into Elite Blobs
abstract totem
I’m going for the infinite assail route with this build https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d62bbc2-6460-4b1f-a350-fa26e9285b12/ass-ail-2?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button
digital narwhal
Change Unyielding to Flak on your Revolver
Change Riposte to Precognition on your Deimos, or change to a Combat Knife w/ Crit Chance + Carapace + Flesh Tearer + Uncanny Strike
And if you're wanting to rock a Right-To-Mid Assail/Shield build, then I'd do this:
radiant frigate
no slaughterer? disappointing
digital narwhal
Double Wall Shield is often better than Dome, since you can use it to just straight up deny paths for Specials.
Stops Trapper Nets, Flamer streams, etc. since it deletes hitscans/rays that intersect with it, as well as just stopping Specialists from moving through it.
Insta "nuh uh" for if you wanna say no to Specials for a moment
Plus, it's still a shield
digital narwhal
no slaughterer? disappointing
I mean, can use Slaughterer, but they seem to wanna use it for giga single target, so might as well give 'em a better build for what they want
Optimising what the people want is the best way to make 'em happy
radiant frigate
I mean, can use Slaughterer, but they seem to wanna use it for giga single targe...
would the pick not be something else then, unstable power or somesuch?
or executor for the funny special stabbing
digital narwhal
I mean, +60% Finesse Damage on dodge is kinda cracked, since it's not just weakspot; Finesse scales with crits and weakspot hits, and Finesse scales harder than just +60% Weakspot Damage, since Weakspot Damage is calculated weirdly
abstract totem
Change Unyielding to Flak on your Revolver
Change Riposte to Precognition on you...
Oh this does look a lot more like I want
radiant frigate
I mean, +60% Finesse Damage on dodge is kinda cracked, since it's not just weaks...
well yes but with what crit chance
just the 12.5%?
that hardly sounds worthwhile
digital narwhal
well yes but with what crit chance
17.5%; it's not super amazing, but it's something
mossy oyster
darktides strongest gambler
digital narwhal
Plus, again, +Finesse scales harder than +Weakspot
and +60% on dodge is a lot, especially with Uncanny Strike too
mossy oyster
but with lower crit chance you barely get to abuse that finesse modifier
yea it’s probably higher burst but you won’t be hitting it a lot
radiant frigate
17.5%; it's not super amazing, but it's something
right, i was going by the build posted before yours, mb
digital narwhal
Like, again, Slaughterer is better here, but if they wanna use Deimos to just stabby stab big things, then might as well
digital narwhal
right, i was going by the build posted before yours, mb
All good
haughty star
I'm torn between DS4 and Illisi for my voidstrike. I enjoy both. Illisi is less ...
Depends on if you're using well timed assails or if you're going left side
Imo
The heavies need assail, there just has to be a get out of my face option in psyker toolkit that's not shriek
digital narwhal
Assail is that option
1 Shard will stagger a Rager
Swap, throw 2 shards, swap back
Safety
Profit
ripe obsidian
Depends on if you're using well timed assails or if you're going left side
I don't use Assail as of now. My stance might change.
haughty star
Assail is that option
Yee that's what I'm saying lol
digital narwhal
Fair
haughty star
I don't use Assail as of now. My stance might change.
Its really nice as just a take the heat off option and it really does a number on annoying rager packs if you don't mitigate them fast enough with the VS
Or shotgunners or really just anything other than crushers lol
prime elk
assail is silly, it really is just a second ranged weapon
ripe obsidian
My thing is that with Voidstrike I am usually using all my peril to throw bowling balls at heretics
But I can see assail being useful for when there are too many heretics in my face
prime elk
if you have a mixed horde coming at you and they've been train in the advanced art of flanking
assail will be super useful
haughty star
My thing is that with Voidstrike I am usually using all my peril to throw bowlin...
With 80quell its not too bad to quell down to 50 or so so you can dump 5 shards quick
ripe obsidian
I'll try it out and see how I feel
haughty star
Takes sum getting used to but it truly makes or breaks some of my builds
ripe obsidian
Well, I barely use Smite unless things are absolutely fucked, so hopefully I won't miss that
And I can see benefit in keeping peril up with shards, as I often lose peril when using DS4
I will need to find a good balance between assail and Voidstrike
queen fog
I like void blast myself cuz u can cast it on your feet if things surround u too quickly
Negates a handful of rager rushes by just knocking them over with a decent M2
You do miss the bowling pin movements without voidstrike tho, they are very satisfying
ripe obsidian
I have been swapping between Voidstrike and Trauma lately, with a bit of purg as well
haughty star
You do miss the bowling pin movements without voidstrike tho, they are very sati...
The crunch of like 12 headshots is straight porn
queen fog
The crunch of like 12 headshots is straight porn
Bonus points if it’s on rolling steel 
ripe obsidian
With 80quell its not too bad to quell down to 50 or so so you can dump 5 shards ...
I tried it in Auric sniper gauntlet. It went fine. But I mostly felt like the damage I did with shards was damage I would have done with Voidstrike, only with less thinking involved
abstract totem
What’s the basic smite build
haughty star
Its mostly for like the situations voidstrike or one of the skngle target swords won't handle is why I run it
abstract totem
Yes
jovial juniper
What’s the basic smite build
ripe obsidian
Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzt
jovial juniper
Something around this
abstract totem
Alright thanks
jovial juniper
You could drop Wildfire
ripe obsidian
Its mostly for like the situations voidstrike or one of the skngle target swords...
That's fair. I don't use Deimos, so potentially less useful. DS4 with Warp Splitting is already pretty good at hordes, and Illisi is better.
upper sun
haughty star
What’s the basic smite build
This is what I personally use
The crit things don't proc often but they help with surge which is a good weapon to run with smiteker
proud frost
does Surge work on the electro-staff's lightning, or just the bolt?
broken carbon
does Surge work on the electro-staff's lightning, or just the bolt?
just the m1, the bolt
ripe obsidian
Just LMB
proud frost
F
thanks for that
so, should i go for flurry or sustained then?
does the cast speed or damage give higher DPS?
zinc phoenix
>when you fuck up peril management once and the entire team dies seconds later
Not even a horde just average histg specialist spam 😞
narrow herald
haughty star
does the cast speed or damage give higher DPS?
Yes?
haughty star
does the cast speed or damage give higher DPS?
Flurry and nexus are your go to for surge if you're tryna m2 charge with it
bright mulch
Hey fellow crazy people anyone got theyr buzz on a Friday ?
prisma igloo
Ace Of Lucky
loud cliff
Hey, question. I really enjoy heavy laspistol with assail, Prescience, shield and DD. Should I tweak to get the assa cleave from Warp Splitting? Can't post image, but here's OG build: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b84b2db-fb33-4df8-bfac-ff486936243b/ulgu-psyker-assail-telekine-shield-disrupt-destiny-auric-ready
prime elk
gunker without gaze
🤔
also building laspistol for boss damage...
and block eff/no sniper resistance on curios...
prisma igloo
Meh resistance curios are bad anyway just eliminate the specials and be done. Sure they spawn nonstop but meh
prisma igloo
Meh resistance curios are bad anyway just eliminate the specials and be done. Su...
That's why you have a special slayer that should be on lookout if they can help it. Of course everyone should do this and should elim them asap keep moving so you don't get stuck between the horde and 5 flamers
late sapphire
Hey, question. I really enjoy heavy laspistol with assail, Prescience, shield an...
block efficiency curio with a 3stam and kd is silly
austere warren
Hey, question. I really enjoy heavy laspistol with assail, Prescience, shield an...
It works and is one of the easier frames for setting up assail. Your boss damage won't particularly be as stellar as say, running a vraks 8 infantry autogun or even the heavier laspistol. In this build, it works more as a tool for spinning your dd, dropping priority targets on headshots, and furthering your innate specialization in dodges and weakpoint dmg broadly.
If you want more damage, you can basically copy the same build but go scrier gaze and take precognition to further boost your finesse and swooce bastard antics.
late sapphire
dump warp expenditure for one with the warp, dump ethereal shards and a node of choice (cruel fortune doesn't do much) for warp splitting
austere warren
The curios are mostly just there to have a noticeably easier time weaving in blocking to make it more manageable. You don't necessarily need it and personally, I'd say something that'll carry over for longer is dropping some bonus toughness/toughness regeneration and health.
The toughness generator nodes are fine and lean you into playing aggressively to recover from any damage you don't want to take. There's a lot of variations that'll help but it's not at all a struggle for assail to jump your peril generation. If you do run dome shield and sanctuary, that's functionally another toughness gen well for yourself when you need it, even preemptively.
In short, if you really want to just go for it, run the build. It's fine. If you want to double down, drop dome and sanctuary for scrier and precognition.
loud cliff
Nice, thanks for the answers, ppl. For going full gunker, what's the practical difference between vraks 5/Columnus 8 vs recon las?
prime elk
Meh resistance curios are bad anyway just eliminate the specials and be done. Su...
you're not always going to be able to immediately dispatch snipers all the time, esp on auric
a single sniper shot will really fuck you, esp if you're like most psykers running without health curio
most players will rarely get hit by snipers, but having one sniper resist perk is worthwhile imo
late sapphire
Nice, thanks for the answers, ppl. For going full gunker, what's the practical d...
Raw weapons wise not that much, recon las does even less to carapace and has lower dps but can shoot longer and is easier to control
prime elk
recon las is less dps than IAGs but better ammo economy
late sapphire
With blessings you'll probably be running infernus on recon las so it's adviseable to switch targets a bit before an enemy dies
By the way @loud cliff never ever run warp expenditure it's a noob trap node
austere warren
Here's an example. You won't be maxing out cleave in this one in favor of giving yourself additional peril generation reduction and quell batteries on your weapons.
In this one, I run duelling sword mk4 and vraks autogun. Berserking with Scrier's override let's you, at any time, double down on attacking to solve your problems. Your safety is aggression essentially and I've personally had a solid time running this and having anywhere from 18-30 stacks regularly. Only thing to do there is play more solidly, take risks as well as you can, and remembering yo chill out once scrier is down if you're dropping assail on everything. If you really want the cleave node, I drop the assail recharge node for cleave on peril since it just makes it all go more smoothly when I'm fully committed to ramping my scrier stacks.
late sapphire
Here's an example. You won't be maxing out cleave in this one in favor of giving...
this stinks dude
austere warren
It doesn't but go on.
late sapphire
insta swap ethereal shards for warp splitting
austere warren
I run this in auric 5s and I do just fine.
zinc phoenix
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d630810-c1f7-4004-8a3a-755de6...
do this in me auric maels
austere warren
No problems with performance other than mistakes and mismanagement at times but it's not hard at all.
late sapphire
warp splitting is +1 assail cleave if you have any peril
and +2 at 50%+
ethereal shards is flat +1
austere warren
I'm working with all points of my dmg not just the shards.
zinc phoenix
the nice thing about the build i linked is whatever you are up against you have a tool for it
late sapphire
???
warp splitting is global cleave
it's just even better than ethereal shards for assail specifically
zinc phoenix
warp splitting is insane
you should pretty much always be running it if you are right side
austere warren
I literally just said that if you want it I just drop the assaio recharge for kt.
zinc phoenix
crack of bone is also nuts
late sapphire
that's silly though
it's a genuine straight upgrade over ethereal shards
No need to drop quick shards for it
zinc phoenix
SG with cracker, warp splitting and quietude makes you very tanky when meleeing hordes
austere warren
If that's the only thing you're hung on that's fine.
zinc phoenix
which is something youll end up doing if shit spawns on you
austere warren
I said what I use and why and that's basically it. I can do those things too, the point is is that I'm not.
mossy oyster
SG with cracker, warp splitting and quietude makes you very tanky when meleeing ...
SG WITH WHAT??!?
cracker…….
zinc phoenix
SG WITH WHAT??!?
late sapphire
Anyways the other thing is that you should take one with the warp, it's reachable for 1 point
You can swap warp expen or cruel fortune for it
mossy oyster
I know it’s just funny
late sapphire
I said what I use and why and that's basically it. I can do those things too, th...
idgaf you are giving advice in the psyker chat you will do it perfectly or you will get out
zinc phoenix
also empathic evasion is underrated as heck
late sapphire
I will call my dad (bill gates) to have you banned ;)
zinc phoenix
yeah its not always up but when youre meleeing like a mfer and getting shot at you will dodge all the guns and that matters
i think a lot of builds are spherical cow "this gives you max damage output in meat grinder"
austere warren
But anyway. Point is is that I routinely run multiple variations of right tree because i like it that much. Currently, this feels really fun and isn't hard to work with in any meaningful way to me so I run it.
late sapphire
u should still swap ethereal for warp splitting idk
zinc phoenix
which like ok that might be true but outside of the meatgrinder shit isnt always optimal engagements
austere warren
I just said I run multiple versions of right tree buiod m8.
I don't need to be told the value of something I understand through my experience. I use the node in other builds lmao
late sapphire
Seems like you do have to be told
zinc phoenix
meh
austere warren
I don't know if you're being weird or dumb on purpose
I'll just not give the benefit of doubt and drop interacting with you on it. Not that hard.
late sapphire
I did identify you as an ideal target for messing with you are right
late sapphire
UnsanctionedPsyker is the throat goat 100%
austere warren
no sense being an anus about it
Wouldn't know. Psyker builds cannot be a grandstand for me. It's a little too silly
Dude can do it to whoever else if that's how they get fun in their day. 🗑️
late sapphire
Dude can do it to whoever else if that's how they get fun in their day. 🗑️
Thank you, and I will.
plucky flax
it's just even better than ethereal shards for assail specifically
Use both for targetmaxxing with assails. 
prime elk
how much cleave would that be 🤔
late sapphire
5
mossy oyster
At least 2
prime elk
maybe that'll actually be worth it for the memes
loud cliff
So with having near perma uptime on gaze, is assail for spamming during lingering effect+warp unbound?
late sapphire
With or without a crit
5
mossy oyster
or does crit not affect it like warp splitting and E shards
mossy oyster
So with having near perma uptime on gaze, is assail for spamming during lingerin...
yes basically
late sapphire
or does crit not affect it like warp splitting and E shards
crit never gives extra cleave
it's 2 default, +1 ethereal shards, +1/2 warp splitting, x2 (!) empowered psionics
zinc phoenix
So with having near perma uptime on gaze, is assail for spamming during lingerin...
Warp unbound can be buggy
late sapphire
You can still explode during the lil window between sg and warp unbound but you have to be really unlucky to hit it
mossy oyster
and it just so happens a lot of soykers are good at being unlucky
(I’ve had it happen to me a total of 1 time while using assail with scriers)
summer prairie
I don't think the window exists except with latency
late sapphire
So with having near perma uptime on gaze, is assail for spamming during lingerin...
If you are running ds and a gun you will have pretty trash hordeclear so it's generally a good idea to use assail when at high perils
late sapphire
I don't think the window exists except with latency
I suspect it's some processing queue thing on fatsharks end
late sapphire
The thing is that the fix is also really easy, at least a preliminary one
But FS doesn't wanna
mossy oyster
(If people don’t throw assail to help while meleeing idk what’s up with them)
late sapphire
Literally just check at the start of warp unbound and if the soyker is exploding, cancel it
ripe obsidian
Targetsmaxxing be like <:geltmoai:1088457111052222504>
https://cdn.discordapp.c...
Which mod gives Warp Unbound remaining uptime? I assume that's what the countdown is.
plucky flax
WARP UNBOUND TIMER
late sapphire
ripe obsidian
WARP UNBOUND TIMER
Makes sense. But why are you shouting again?
late sapphire
It's wu uptime + 1.5s safety net time
plucky flax
Because I am sick of you. 
ripe obsidian
:<
ripe obsidian
I just got here. D:
plucky flax
mossy oyster
toxic old man…
plucky flax
Old? D:
proud frost
oh thats gonna be fuckin annoying
i have managed to get 4 more points for my electro staff than there are blessings to use them on
somehow
late sapphire
Yes
There is supposedly an extra blessing in the code that gives + lightning chain jumps but is hidden
proud frost
so now the little "check me" dot wont go away
ripe obsidian
There is supposedly an extra blessing in the code that gives + lightning chain j...
That would be a fun blessing
ripe obsidian
Tzeentch is mocking you
proud frost
Tzeentch is mocking you
i am personally going to figure out how to become stronger than the emperor, just to put my foot up it's metaphysical ass
prime elk
There is supposedly an extra blessing in the code that gives + lightning chain j...
i'm guessing it'll do 5 damage on the third target
austere warren
i am personally going to figure out how to become stronger than the emperor, jus...
Which is just a plot to turn you into a blorbo with delusions of grandeur
cobalt forge
I’ve come back to announce that you all were wrong and that Smite is way better than y’all make it appear
It’s S tier
I’ve blocked entire Hordes, specialists, CHARGING MUTANTS AND DOGS
clear heath
it can
prime elk
oh can it?
clear heath
just need to smite them long enough
cobalt forge
it's good, just boring
Nah man it’s so fun watching them twist in pain as they get shocked
prime elk
i never tried, i usually just impale the mutie on my melee weapon
clear heath
should be deleted from the game
mossy oyster
tldr
cobalt forge
These are completely wrong sentences
It’s just of a SUPPORT use instead of an offensive one
If you want to rank up kills I agree it’s not useful but for a playing party it’s definitely good
young summit
Smite? More like STINK amirite?
clear heath
no one said it wasn't useful
cobalt forge
no one said it wasn't useful
Y’all are making it sound like it is
cobalt forge
Wich is also wrong cause I’m having the best time using it
clear heath
i would like it deleted and replaced with something more engaging
cobalt forge
i would like it deleted and replaced with something more engaging
You can literally stop an entire horde and deem that boring?
clear heath
becausing holding a button and making enemies less interactive barely qualifies as gameplay
young summit
I like the concept of smite, but yeah it's basically just a pause button on the enemies
young summit
I mean Scrier's Gaze/Disrupt Destiny Psyker is probably one of the most hyperactive builds in the game
clear heath
i wish we had a more interesting lightning spell because i do like lightning
young summit
Momentum enforced by mechanics
clear heath
it's actually my favourite theme
upper galleon
I mean Scrier's Gaze/Disrupt Destiny Psyker is probably one of the most hyperact...
until they added "lol don't blow up for 10 seconds after hitting 100%, and have 100% cleave as well"
young summit
Yeah I haven't played it as much since the change, not sure about how much that gets abused in a staff SG build.
I'm sure the answer is a lot.
austere warren
Nice, thanks for the answers, ppl. For going full gunker, what's the practical d...
Awkwardly remember that I had this drafted.
Can't speak for columnus but veaks does significantly more damage comparatively with the slant of you being more likely to run dry if you're using it a lot a lot.
Recon doesn't particularly do awful dmg but you'll notice it compared to a vraks Works extremely well in right tree builds since it's easy to aim at heads for hordes, build stacks, pop crits for upkeep and I want to say a faster reload.
Also just has more ammo to work with.
upper galleon
vraks5 is the old columnus, the name changes fatshark made was confusing
austere warren
Yeah, i just forgot what it was called.
upper galleon
np
upper galleon
woe, random changes go
austere warren
Dunno if the other one was also columnus or whatever the fuck.
young summit
What was the point of these changes
austere warren
Ah, it was graia
austere warren
What was the point of these changes
¯_(ツ)_/¯
upper galleon
other one was graia, iirc it is now vraks= highest dps, agri= cleaving shots, columnus bullet hose
upper galleon
What was the point of these changes
some GW person had a really terrible morning
austere warren
Maybe some wh nerd shit or consolidating the marks better for the mark system or something I just don't know.
young summit
I did wonder if it was a lore deep cut I didn't understand
austere warren
Idk. I know very little about wh. I'm just for the coop horde shooter that feels fun and doesn't have that beyond irritating weapon progression system.
young summit
I know quite a bit, but not enough to know what forge world actually makes what in the lore.
austere warren
Pre-unlocked and loaded
They might manufacturers, some are named after planets like the cadia chainsword. Might have something to do with production on the planet being the thing makes the name.
Same with Catachan which is apparently some jungle planet or some shit.
Idk if krourk is a planet but based on what's in game, I guess krourk is a manufacturer that has a speciality for ogryn weapon production.
young summit
The melee weapons are typically named after guard regiments
austere warren
Ah
young summit
Like the Maccabian dueling swords
The Maccabian Janissaries
Which I guess is also a planet
But it's more that the regiment is known for using them
But yeah Graia, Columnus, Agri, and Vraks are all forge worlds
austere warren
Mhm
young summit
I just didn't know if there was more detail about them making specific kinds of weapons
Idk
late sapphire
Idk if krourk is a planet but based on what's in game, I guess krourk is a manuf...
Krourk is an ogryn planet
young summit
Wild to think of how an all-ogryn planet runs
I mean I guess by M42 it would have Imperium governors and such
But even just a mostly ogryn world would be either a comedy or a tragedy
late sapphire
Iirc it's basically a barbarian tribal world where the imperium just shows up and shanghais ogryn from time to time
radiant frigate
Wild to think of how an all-ogryn planet runs
big planet big people big brain
plucky flax
Spam assail and win.
brazen rampart
Assail will stun anything it doesn't kill so you can throw one at a rager and stab him with your knife. I also run surge staff for groups of more dangerous targets.
bright mulch
dump warp expenditure for one with the warp, dump ethereal shards and a node of ...
currently using the shards atm, love em'
lament sapphire
how do yall play psyker when using assail
I use a gun with assail and switch between the two pretty much the whole run. They posted a pretty fun build in here, hang on...
prime elk
kinda crazy that assail's been nerfed and it's still this good lol
lament sapphire
how do yall play psyker when using assail
This is potato's build I've been using the past couple days. It's actually very fun. Scrier's gaze will disintegrate a horde with a recon lazgun.
You just go gun - assail - gun - assail - stab stab - assail
It's like... being a live machine gun. You never stop shooting. Infinite projectiles.
austere warren
P. Much
ornate sedge
kinda crazy that assail's been nerfed and it's still this good lol
went from being a constant nuke to being a consistent one
very good ability but no longer a catch all. its in a good spot
lament sapphire
I use the Mk V blaze force sword and a recon lazgun, but be sure to add the +5% critical hit chance to your weapons
ripe obsidian
I just had a veteran in auric maelstrom from the beginning of the match who did 59k damage
I did 730k in the same time period
tawny mason
hey, out of the blue question here but is there someone here who could help me do brain burst penance? its the only penance i have left for psyker, its just 1 game.
late sapphire
hey, out of the blue question here but is there someone here who could help me ...
Are you in EU?
tawny mason
yea
late sapphire
Add me, 1997013774
orchid ibex
@lament sapphire i use that build too sometimes, it's really fun
ripe obsidian
Hehehehehehehe
modest perch
Hope you sparkies all had a happy helloween
silent wigeon
Assail and disrupt destiny is fun, good for penence. pretty squishy though
orchid ibex
when aren't we squishy
nocturne dust
when aren't we squishy
When Unchained Psyker gets released
Unchain the Unchained Fatshark
orchid ibex
patent mango
frail escarp
anyone else having issues with disrupt destiny stacks falling off in 4 seconds even though you took the talent to make it 10 seconds?
like i think im going mad
i clearly have it selected, go into game, count it out and it's 4 seconds
jovial juniper
No one would happen to know how effective smite is at applying Skullcrusher, right?
strong gulch
anyone else having issues with disrupt destiny stacks falling off in 4 seconds e...
Visual bug. The DD buff icon doesn't always display but you have the stacks. The part that drops off is the speed buff. The only way around the bug right now is mods.
strong gulch
No one would happen to know how effective smite is at applying Skullcrusher, rig...
I haven't heard anything about smite and smaul beyond the interaction it has with charged strikes.
blissful pulsar
Question on Wildfire. If there are 4 enemies, and 1 of them has 6 stacks of soulblaze and dies. Do all 3 other enemies get 4 stacks, does one get 2 and another 4, or does only one of them get 4?
pale panther
what are the best perks and blessings for the voidblast staff?
nocturne dust
Question on Wildfire. If there are 4 enemies, and 1 of them has 6 stacks of soul...
4 stacks are spread, so each enemy gets 2 or 1
up to 4 stacks
blissful pulsar
Ah so it pretty much has no value outside of the flame staff pre-burning enemies before they step into flame
nocturne dust
no, it has a lot of value
on every fire build with any staff
though others disagree
It's a matter of contention as to how useful wildfire is, but the DPS don't lie
strong gulch
what are the best perks and blessings for the voidblast staff?
Flak + crit chance
blazing spirit + warp nexus
dump warp resist
pale panther
kk
shell radish
Little confused about warpfire and uncanny, is it just get a bunch of stacks out on armor and just get uncanny stacks off of any enemy?
nocturne dust
Soulblaze benefits from uncanny
shell radish
or yeah soulblaze sorry
nocturne dust
If you have uncanny, any soulblaze you've applied will benefit regardless of distance
nocturne dust
Soulblaze, generally, since enemies you'll be trying to kill will take more damage from a sword anyway
and soulblaze lasts longer iirc?
shell radish
is it worth taking perilous and/or wildfire?
It just seems like two points I'd rather use elsewhere
nocturne dust
Those are definitely useful
I would highly recommend them if you are using a staff (other than voidstrike)
shell radish
running blazing spirit trauma
nocturne dust
Definitely take them
shell radish
kk I'll give it a go
I have uncanny IV on my force sword, hopefully it works out lol
late sapphire
is it worth taking perilous and/or wildfire?
perilous combustion definitely
nocturne dust
I mean for blazing trauma you don't really need uncanny soulblaze
nocturne dust
I would but I can't fight stupid 😭
late sapphire
I am all powerful and undefeated
Perilous combustion is really good, 3 stacks isn't much but 6 clears chaff and 12 kills gunners
So if you see say 4 shotgunners walking around and you blow up 2 of them with a voidblast blast, the other 2 will probably die of blaze etc
If there is a mixed horde of elites and chaff you blow up the elites and the chaff dies on its own etc
shell radish
I mean for blazing trauma you don't really need uncanny soulblaze
I mean my thought process was to just buff up the soulblaze stacks I put out
was trying it with purg and I just dont really like using that staff lol
nocturne dust
Uncanny soulblaze is only useful on purg imo, lol
late sapphire
uncanny on the force sword is just generally good too, though
nocturne dust
You're better off just stabbing the boss with the uncanny sword
shell radish
oh no I gotta run purg then
nocturne dust
I mean it is useful on trauma, but like, minimally.
shell radish
ah kk
nocturne dust
You won't really be looking to do it on anything but bosses
shell radish
I mean thats still decent DoT right?
Maybe I'll stick with the purg for a few more runs then
late sapphire
Nah dude blaze trauma is way more fun than purg imo
nocturne dust
I mean thats still decent DoT right?
Eh
prime elk
trauma aiming is annoying
late sapphire
dueling sword 
nocturne dust
dueling sword <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
is not a DoT
shell radish
||I'm kind of sick of running dueling sword ||
late sapphire
Yeah it is
You stab and then you deal damage and you repeat that over time
Try chainaxe
nocturne dust
||I'm kind of sick of running dueling sword ||
late sapphire
That thing has dot
shell radish
I love me chainaxe, was doing some scizo scriers runs with it
really felt like temu zealot, crack of bone is pretty cool
dunno if its that strong but its fun at least
frail escarp
Visual bug. The DD buff icon doesn't always display but you have the stacks. The...
oooo i see ty, tho now that i reset my build i see the stacks fall off in 10 seconds thankfully
was driving me nuts
such a good qol talent tho, much easier to have actual stacks throughout the game
indigo plank
Is there a way to fix the bug when a weapon says it has 4 more mastery points but you've bought everything?
late sapphire
Is there a way to fix the bug when a weapon says it has 4 more mastery points bu...
Only electrokinetic staff does that, it's unfixable
nocturne dust
Only electrokinetic staff does that, it's unfixable
late sapphire
electrokinetic 😔
orchid ibex
is chainaxe good? i've never used it actually, lol. i hate the ds though and wouldn't mind a new option for armor
nocturne dust
is chainaxe good? i've never used it actually, lol. i hate the ds though and wou...
it's a weapon
good is a strong word
orchid ibex
a weapon you say
ds is objectively one of our best weapons but man i can't get past a little needle being an anti-armor weapon. it just feels wrong.
strong gulch
Ok, got the memes out of my system for the moment. Did most damage with an objectively bad build. It's a no keystone blazing spirit illisi lol. I also ate a lot of poop because I only wanted to swing my sword wildly.
ripe obsidian
The zealot on the far-right was going wild. I legitimately have no idea how he killed so many specials and elites.
indigo plank
The zealot on the far-right was going wild. I legitimately have no idea how he k...
Meanwhile my psyker is throwing assails at crushers in a scabs only no ammo pickups
ripe obsidian
I mean, I did more melee damage than the other zealot in that match, so I kinda needed a madman zealot to help get through it all
austere warren
But I can't recall seeing a knife zealot this effective
👋🏾
Knife fun. Knife good. 🗡️
austere warren
No, but strong knife builds on zealot are just saucy when you understand your movement as a start. Iz funny.
ripe obsidian
I was glad to have this guy. Even if he was better than me. >:(
But I've had some rough losses tonight, so I needed the win
Like this one. Guy on the far right was in the match from the very beginning. I have no idea what he was doing
prime elk
actually a bot
digital hill
Sometimes you just gotta stop and appreciate the hive slums, you know?
spark otter
flame staff dump stat?
nocturne dust
warp res
spark otter
ripe obsidian
Embrace the warp. Do not resist its touch.
nocturne dust
Embrace the warp. Do not resist its touch.
ripe obsidian
Coward.
ripe obsidian
Well, I just spent an hour walking a helpdesk tech through replacing a dead switch because I didn't want to drive in and do it myself. >:(
Message you love to see on a Friday night: "Did you reboot a switch?"
No. No, I did not.
ripe obsidian
My Beloved says only nerds think the warp is bad.
nocturne dust
https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-19055033
digital hill
If the Inquisition had a solid mental health insurance plan, you'd know that was schizophrenia!
digital hill
https://tenor.com/view/chaos-fox-choas-reigns-howl-gif-7997173
lol im surprised that there's gifs of that video. Not even sure it still exists.
silver echo
anyone got a mod for the UI so I can always see scriers buff. It's annoying as fuck that it only shows some of the time
nocturne dust
DD you mean?
silver echo
although that is annoying it doesn't literally kill you to mess it up so it's not major
nocturne dust
Oh, you talking about Warp Unbound?
nocturne dust
silver echo
thanks
ripe obsidian
The train mission is where dreams go to die
pseudo sedge
Anybody want to help me with Malleus Monstronum? I can help with yours too if you haven't gotten it yet
ripe obsidian
Which server are you on?
pseudo sedge
NA my friend
ripe obsidian
I can in a bit. Apparently the new switch is broadcast storming. I have to fix things again
pseudo sedge
I dont know what that means but thank you
ripe obsidian
Things broke at work and I am grumpy about being on-call
pseudo sedge
Good luck with that!
cyan portal
Perfecto
ripe obsidian
Okay @pseudo sedge add me and I can help you.
pseudo sedge
Alright one sec
cyan portal
> 76% burn
is identical to 80
nocturne dust
is identical to 80
for stacks.
But have you considered the aesthetic appeal of a smooth 80/80/80/80/60
modest perch
Yes
Does anyone else go to great lengths to ensure their curio perks are in a pleasing and coherent order ?
cyan portal
for stacks.
identical
nocturne dust
identical
I'd be curious to see if that was simply a rounding issue for the app rate
modest perch
I used to hear that it topped out at like 70 but that was before item change
nocturne dust
for stacks it tops out earlier than 80, yes
keen solar
QQ, is Precognition worth it on the Force Swords?
I'm currently running a Deimos with Precognition and Shred with my Melee Psyker
nocturne dust
Generally, the picks are slaughterer and uncanny on force swords
precog has duration issues for many
and is overall less consistent/easy to activate than slaughterer or uncanny
ripe obsidian
Hey, duration issues are common in psykers of a certain age.
strong gulch
Mental fatigue and brain fog.
cyan portal
I'd be curious to see if that was simply a rounding issue for the app rate
If you can work out how to test it I'd be curious to know too.
digital hill
Is the inferno force staff attack a soulblaze attack?
slow cloak
yes
all psyker burn damage (infernus, talents, etc) is soul blaze (characterized by the blue flame)
digital hill
Ah, excellent.
nocturne dust
Is the inferno force staff attack a soulblaze attack?
no, it applies stacks of soulblaze, but it is not soulblaze
strong gulch
all psyker burn damage (infernus, talents, etc) is soul blaze (characterized by ...
infernus is regular fire
idk if you meant inferno tho
azure parcel
So uh
The fire staff, that releases the blue burn cloud
Is its attack the same as Soulblaze for the purposes of the talent tree?
Or is it different
Oh wait this was just discussed
Never mind
strong gulch
All soulblaze dots are the same.
Purg / inferno does have direct damage tho. That is different.
azure parcel
I need an answer to packs of Maulers and crushers as Psyker, while I level up
Currently using Assail, Shriek, fire staff, and duelling sword
clear heath
stab them with the dueling sword
strong gulch
Assail and purg have a lot of overlap.
DS is one of the better answers for crushers and mauler, but it does put you in melee.
clear heath
stab them all
azure parcel
I get bonked twice and fall over
clear heath
dodge and then stab
nocturne dust
I need an answer to packs of Maulers and crushers as Psyker, while I level up
The answer is a staff
strong gulch
Fire staff deals with maulers just fine too. LMB staggers them.
All of the other staves deal with crushers well.
azure parcel
Oh
digital hill
blaze sword jedi push+force staff fire.
azure parcel
I was just using charged attack
digital hill
That jedi push has some serious range.
nocturne dust
Fire staff can't deal with crushers, but that's why you have meat shields allies.... and a sword
tawdry parrot
Fire staff can't deal with crushers, but that's why you have ~~meat shields~~ al...
thats why i have BB and pray to god it procs while im setting them on fire
nocturne dust
I found the Blaze Sword incredibly clunky to use compared to Duelling Sword
Don't use the special on Deimos
or Obscurus, but don't use Obscurus
tawdry parrot
i forgot that one existed
nocturne dust
Illisi is a "well, maybe you use maybe you don't" special
clear heath
i forgot that one existed
it doesn't
strong gulch
I found the Blaze Sword incredibly clunky to use compared to Duelling Sword
Deimos is definitely more fussy to use, but it is also more defensive than DS. A DS special to a crusher head staggers them.
clear heath
i refuse to believe it's real
azure parcel
I will try to get an Illisi to try
digital hill
I love the special. ;_; I use the blessing that crits on the next hit after a special kill, plus soulblaze stacks on a crit.
Takes down crushers in two hits with a special+then crit
azure parcel
Playing Heresy on the squishiest class in the game when I'm just frankly used to the other three's toughness is real hell
strong gulch
Illisi is for hordes. It is not a crusher killer the way Deimos and DS are.
nocturne dust
I love the special. ;_; I use the blessing that crits on the next hit after a sp...
Fire Illisi is actually pretty bad
nocturne dust
unfortunately
azure parcel
Its attack patterns looked kinda weird for horde clear? Or am I just noob
strong gulch
I am not fond of Deimos, but it's a great weapon. It's more generalist option. Both are good. Just not my personal preferance tho.
tawdry parrot
Illisi is for hordes. It is not a crusher killer the way Deimos and DS are.
yep, when it comes to crushers i prefer DS a lot more though imo
nocturne dust
Then why use it
Because it kills single targets fairly easily and has better horde clear than DS4
azure parcel
nocturne dust
Heck, its horde clear isn't that much worse than Illisi
azure parcel
Please tell me its light spam for hordes?
clear heath
deimos also has that longer ranged push, which is nice
nocturne dust
Really, the only problem is it doesn't have wide horizontal swings. If it did it would probably beat illisi
strong gulch
Then why use it
The H2 has big pp damage and will knock over a cusher on a head shot. It can oneshot mutants with no buffs. It also has better dodges than illisi.
clear heath
I've started using deimos more than illisi because i got sick of illisi's short dodges
nocturne dust
deimos also has that longer ranged push, which is nice
Pretty much
nocturne dust
Please tell me its light spam for hordes?
Sorry, I was trying to reply to this
ahem
Pretty much
prime elk
The H2 has big pp damage and will knock over a cusher on a head shot. It can one...
i wished the H2 was the H1
nocturne dust
i wished the H2 was the H1
but l1 poke is
azure parcel
And ignore the special
nocturne dust
l1 -> h2
strong gulch
i wished the H2 was the H1
same 😭
austere warren
The thrust or the swipe?
prime elk
it's a wimpy swipe
nocturne dust
It's funny bonk
I use heavy spam just for the fun of it sometimes
over the optimal poke spam
cyan portal
I'd be curious to see if that was simply a rounding issue for the app rate
So by mapping every value of burn between 0-80, and drawing a line, it seems like each point of burn lowers the application frequency by 0.0014s. So the difference between 80 and 76 would be 0.0057s. Ie, if you were somehow channeling out for a constant 60 seconds, 80 burn would apply 3 more stacks than 76 burn (178.7 and 175.7 stacks respectively). And that is assuming they're using the hidden decimals at all.
digital hill
Fire Illisi is actually pretty bad
I mean, it might not be optimal, but it's working on Heresy anyway lol
nocturne dust
I mean, it might not be optimal, but it's working on Heresy anyway lol
You can compensate for nearly any build with skill at any difficulty.
digital hill
Yeah for sure.
nocturne dust
Well, except if you have to solo on a non-solo map without stealth
digital hill
I'm really impressed with the push from the blaze sword. I hadn't bothered with it much before because newb, but wow. The charge is fast and it puts them right on the ground.
At some distance too.
I was just forcing groups onto the ground and letting the ogryns do their work lol
cyan portal
deimos force push into h2 is a nice combo
digital hill
I push, special which almost always kills on the first strike (mutants/hordes/gunners etc at least), then go into the heavy combo. Warp bonk.
Like a little stagger machine coupled with shriek and fire staff
ripe obsidian
What's extra "fun" is having kinetic flayer pop on the burster you pushed with a force sword. The push attack does 1 damage.
digital hill
hah!
cyan portal
I push, special which almost always kills on the first strike (mutants/hordes/gu...
If you special > f push > H2 weakspot it leaves them very close to one l1 to kill
haughty star
tf when your friends all want you to come build bases on dayz but you just wanna darktide
cyan portal
ie, the dmg of the special depends on the base dmg of the attack, so you want it to be heavy. And by leading with push the main dmg tick will be at 5 stack uncanny.
digital hill
ie, the dmg of the special depends on the base dmg of the attack, so you want it...
I'd wondered about that, since the game doesn't seem to display the additional damage rider value from the special.
cyan portal
its easy enough to test in psychanium. do a special light and a special heavy vs a crusher, noticeable difference
wind spruce
What's extra "fun" is having kinetic flayer pop on the burster you pushed with a...
Is there any reason to push attack it?
olive ember
Can weapons go past the 380 cap now? Or UI bug/rounding shenanigans
wind spruce
Can weapons go past the 380 cap now? Or UI bug/rounding shenanigans
It's a rounding error
wind spruce
Make it go farther away
Fair play
olive ember
It's a rounding error
funny
strong gulch
Me doing a PA on accident... a lot.
cyan portal
I thought there was a fatshark post saying it wasn't just a visual error?
wind spruce
I thought there was a fatshark post saying it wasn't just a visual error?
It's a rounding error, not a visual error. Some of your stats will get, say, 80.6 and round up to show 81. Two of your other stats might be 79.7 to compensate and still round up to 80.
Atleast that's the theory
But yeah, they're working on addressing it
digital hill
Is there any reason to push attack it?
It has some interesting range on the push which lets you easily push your way through a horde to reposition, but it also forces them prone. I find that pretty useful in a horde
plucky flax
Flame the burster with kf. It might pop it might not that's what makes it fun
latent mauve
I’ll flame you
plucky flax
strong gulch
Force sword PA is single target and can knock over targets up to 9m away.
plucky flax
As in left click with burga
wind spruce
It has some interesting range on the push which lets you easily push your way th...
I was asking specifically about the push attack. Push is great.
nocturne dust
gamble burst
Replace stupid dumb Warp Rupture with 10% chance to deal 5 bajillion damage on shriek
nocturne dust
Is there any reason to push attack it?
Push attack pushes the burster farther which is nice when you can't trust your teammates
digital hill
yeah! I just discovered that use, so nice.
ripe obsidian
Push attack pushes the burster farther which is nice when you can't trust your t...
When can you trust teammates?
nocturne dust
When can you trust teammates?
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plaguies the Premade?
digital hill
lol I really wish I could draw my friends away from SM2 to squad up here. Running pugs is an exercise in patience.
latent mauve
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plaguies the Premade?
I don’t trust pre made lobbies
ripe obsidian
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plaguies the Premade?
No. I have no friends who play this game.
latent mauve
Neither should they trust me
nocturne dust
I don’t trust pre made lobbies
Exactly
nocturne dust
Neither should they trust me
God gives his weakest ammo hoarders to his strongest Staffkers
nocturne dust
Only 1 ammo crate? Smh my head
digital hill
lol one thing Im enjoying with psyker is not having to worry about grenades or ammo 🤣
latent mauve
I consider it a problem if I am not max on ammo and throwing knives
ripe obsidian
lol one thing Im enjoying with psyker is not having to worry about grenades or a...
Your ammo is your wounds.
digital hill
Same on my zealot, hah
nocturne dust
Hot take, but I think more games would be better if they just stopped shoehorning in limited ammunition/grenades. Put in cooldowns, sure, but the limited resource stuff is quite often just annoying nonsense.
ripe obsidian
I would enjoy if all blitzes in the game had some sort of regen
nocturne dust
Darktide included.
ripe obsidian
Feels bad to have non-knife blitz on Zealot because you barely get to use it
nocturne dust
Yeh, I never use flame grenades even when I take them
I might need them later
is the last segment
latent mauve
I would let my team have ammo if they weren’t blind to specialists
brazen rampart
Nah, the glugger just mag dumps a crusher with fire bullets expecting it to work.
ripe obsidian
I had a knife Zealot today who ran away and killed tons of elites and specials before I could charge my Voidstrike RMB. By the time my shot was in the air, he'd thrown three knives and shot two more guns with a revolver. Voidstrike projectile is so slow.
latent mauve
Name of the zealot
ripe obsidian
I cannot recall offhand
nocturne dust
I had a knife Zealot today who ran away and killed tons of elites and specials b...
Yeah, that's why I think voidstrike is the weakest of the staves, its charge time
latent mauve
High level?
ripe obsidian
He was like level 400 I think
ripe obsidian
He did well. We were the last two standing multiple times.
5k is a lot of heretics killed.
digital hill
Fire is the only solution.
nocturne dust
I feel like if you're above 2000 Fatshark has to put a limit on the amount of hours you can spend each day on the game, lol
ripe obsidian
If Voidstrike charged as fast as trauma...
nocturne dust
Voidblast on the other hand
Voidblast is good?
latent mauve
I feel like if you're above 2000 Fatshark has to put a limit on the amount of ho...
If they did that to me who would report all the bugs
scarlet garden
Voidblast is good?
Ye i like it
latent mauve
exotic phoenix
Voidblast GOAT
digital hill
Voidblast is a lot of fun
scarlet garden
Stagger staff is fun against bulwarks
nocturne dust
Blackhole staff when
exotic phoenix
It has so much support/util for the team and damage is pretty nice
ripe obsidian
I have learned to enjoy voidblast. Knock all the crushers over and laugh at them and their spilled lunch
scarlet garden
Dmg is nothing superb but its okay
plucky flax
It's okay could be better
nocturne dust
Dmg is nothing superb but its okay
It's actually very good with fire trauma
scarlet garden
Fire trauma?
nocturne dust
Fire build for voidblast
exotic phoenix
Ive found if you build around the staff, you can do some pretty gnarly damage but if not, great for knocking back the rager/crusher horde down for your team
nocturne dust
What kinda psyker uses burn
scarlet garden
Psyker is a challenge for me cus im more Ogryn and zealot brained atm
nocturne dust
Gunkers, that's who. And gunkers are heretics.
scarlet garden
The -40% peril talent helps u spam like 9-10 of them before ur at critical explosion
nocturne dust
I wonder if Fatshark will ever even add another staff 
brazen rampart
Gunkers, that's who. And gunkers are heretics.
This is fake.
scarlet garden
Only gripe with psyker is not a good monster dps option
But chainaxe helps a bit
nocturne dust
I wonder if Fatshark will ever even add another staff <:Sitgryn:1016269420638765...
I hope they keep the theme of not having to aim, lol.
nocturne dust
This is fake.
No u.
plucky flax
Only gripe with psyker is not a good monster dps option
Me having top monster damage 90% of the time on any build. People in my lobby don't want to hit monsters
nocturne dust
Me having top monster damage 90% of the time on any build. People in my lobby do...
I'll bring out my thammer build just for you
plucky flax
Thanks 
scarlet garden
Me having top monster damage 90% of the time on any build. People in my lobby do...
😮
nocturne dust
I haven't played anything but Psyker in ages, lol.
I think the last time I played vet was months ago
brazen rampart
Only gripe with psyker is not a good monster dps option
That's what gunker does best though.
scarlet garden
Isnt gunker heresy?
nocturne dust
It is
brazen rampart
Mag dump an infernus recon into a boss's face and they will quite literally melt.
brazen rampart
Yeah really.
nocturne dust
It's okay
brazen rampart
That just sounds like you don't play gunker well.
Especially considering you consider it "heresy."
nocturne dust
It's not that much better than just purgatusing the boss tho
nocturne dust
That just sounds like you don't play gunker well.
I tested it in psykh
The ttk isn't that great imo
And that was with a 100% weakspot hit rate
brazen rampart
Tell me, are you using headhunter/true aim on this setup?
clear heath
it's like above average
you will do better on bosses than any build not tailored for bosses
brazen rampart
Idk man, I've seen some psykers delete bosses with recons before.
I'm just saying the potential is there.
nocturne dust
you will do better on bosses than any build not tailored for bosses
but you're also playing gunker 🤮
summer prairie
SG recon is 3.6k boss dps with 15 DD stacks and +unyielding
strong gulch
Varks 5 and laspistol 2 do better monster dps than recon. Great for psyker, but not the best compared to the actual monster killers/
brazen rampart
Maybe with some crazy buff stacking with DD and warp rider with scriers?
summer prairie
if you weakspot hit, but that's not going to happen all the time
brazen rampart
Best I can do is shield spam with bb.
nocturne dust
Best I can do is shield spam with bb.
😭
clear heath
I'm pretty sure the other classes will just win if they fully commit to boss damage
glugger ogryn is the obvious one
pretty sure a bolter vet build fully committed to boss damage will also out damage you
clear heath
win in boss damage
nocturne dust
Ah
Yeah they will
They will straight up dumpster psyker in boss damage with any real commitment
clear heath
gun psyker boss damage is merely "good"
clear heath
i wish i still had that azreal vid of him just killing every boss with 5 bullets of a revolver on vet
summer prairie
maybe was lucky rolls, 4.1k second attempt
clear heath
obviously not practical to make a vet build like that and needed good crit rng, but that shit was hilarious
clear heath
My friend also sent me this clip for boss memes, but this relies on the stim a lot
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/922136978865156168/1297901815026946129/proofOfConcept.mp4?ex=6726c602&is=67257482&hm=3327ca2f1b12c1afb6917ae43dfaff368c521ad95dd3621aad372c1ad418b737&
not exactly the most practical build either, but he actually does play the build and will hunt the demonhost if he happens to have a blue stim
strong gulch
Need to get your friend on the team when we play with Tren. DH loves him.
plucky flax
I intentionally wake dh up with creeping flames to make it more hazardous
hazy moss
guys
can someone explaing to me the relation between crit and soulblaze pls
does crit make my fire deal more dmg
nocturne dust
crit on inferno makes you apply 2 stacks instead of 1 stack of soulblaze
doubling your soulblaze application
And blazing voidblast builds apply soulblaze on crit
so crit generally good
plucky flax
Blazemaxxing
scarlet garden
Which melee weapon u guys like