psyker-class

[wind spruce]

That doesn't work on proper difficulties

[brazen bramble]

which means you have to let it get close to you before obliterating it

the real difficulty is not killing the dog too early

plus you have to time the BB when it pounces after that

getting that penance is entirely unnatural

so it kind of sucks in my eyes

[summer prairie]

I got that penance within weeks of the launch without specifically going for it (or any other penance)

[brazen bramble]

well maybe the timing was different back then? im not sure

but i had to blow up dogs for 2 days to get it

[summer prairie]

also got cliffhanger (pre-nerf) and the elite BB one

[brazen bramble]

all other penances are piss easy, Pick and Mix legit easier than Not Even Close

[heavy bane]

holy 90%

[summer prairie]

cliffhanger required you to push like 30 and Pick&Mix had a shorter time frame and slower BB

and less available elites/specials

since we only had vanilla damnation

[brazen bramble]

i did the current pick and mix on regular damnation

not sure about how bad was the timing back then and how slow the BB was but i got it on accident while going for Not Even Close

[summer prairie]

you had to do it in 10 seconds

[heavy bane]

is crit up warp nexus good on inferno ?

[summer prairie]

BB also did less damage though probably didn't matter much

[brazen bramble]

rn its 12 seconds right?

doesnt sound too bad to me, not unless BB was much slower than today

[summer prairie]

Well I wouldn't know since I got it by playing normally but there was a lot of whining about it being impossible

[brazen bramble]

well i dunno i got it randomly too

just pressed the ability and held down LMB

simple as

[warm dust]

Just found a Psyker at level 1894. How many hours do yall think that took?

[slate oasis]

yeah. warp nexus + blaze away are the best blessing for it. for perks flak + crit chance are the best afaik

[drifting cairn]

so i havent played since launch, just unlocked smite. what the hell how does this work and same thing but for the other option as well (cause the last is just better brain burst no?)

just felt like the dmg was tickle and only good part about it was the cc

[slate oasis]

smite: huge aoe stun that doesn't do much damage
assail: auto aim darts that basically kill everything that isn't armored
brain burst: does ok damage to everything. good at locking on to tucked away specials and killing them

[upper sun]

also people hate you if you use smite

[plucky flax]

Around slightly less than 2k

[drifting cairn]

I just tried it, seemed kind of ok but like fire staff seemed like the same thing

[jovial juniper]

You can build it to kill ragers, maulers, Bulwarks and take 76% of a crusher's hp

[upper sun]

fire staff will kill everything on the screen once you get a good one

[jovial juniper]

You don't have Empowered Psyonics though

[drifting cairn]

are any of them specifically better while leveling (i decided to restart fresh so im only lvl 4)

[upper sun]

yeah tbh dont worry about all that for now

[slate oasis]

I'd say assail

[jovial juniper]

Assail

[upper sun]

just try out the weapons you get and focus on doging/blocking and doing heavy/light/push attacks

yeah assail is king in lower threat levels

[drifting cairn]

ah yeah ofc, cause less armor

highest i used to do was diff 4 dont remember what its called

I just wasted a blessing point on accident

[slate oasis]

you always get all the blessings at weapon mastery 20 so that's fine

[drifting cairn]

oh okay

it might not matter much but which of pre blitz passives are good? cause i have no idea what my crit chance and such things are like so no idea which to pick

i was gonna go quietude, battle meditation

[slate oasis]

these 3 are pretty much always fantastic

[drifting cairn]

yeah but im trying to for assail atm, do i just take the right ones then? lol

or id have to not go assail

[drifting cairn]

noted tho

[slate oasis]

going down the right side then mettle and perfect timing are good choices

[brazen bramble]

top right also pretty good if you're going with a crits build

aspecially crazy with Scrier's gaze

[drifting cairn]

yeah stacking crits seems fun, especially cause of assail

[plucky flax]

Assails want soulstealer to regen toughness.

[brazen bramble]

slap crits on everything and go figure

that is the way

[echo root]

Cause shit doesn't group up into a nice meatgrinder?

[upper sun]

because smite fucks with zealots and ogryn

[tired estuary]

and because its also boring to play with unless the smite user is like comically bad, b/c it can also tank performance

the list goes on

[slate oasis]

you can smite ethically and in moderation, but it's not very useful to smite everything constantly, especially hordes of walkers

[haughty star]

you don't need EP, most of the good damage comes from the shriek anyway

[haughty star]

smite is good when coupled with venting shriek with the "creeping flames" augment on.

zap, yell, burn, repeat. its super effective especially if you take EP for a keystone but kinda boring and your teammates will hate it because when done right it literally kills everything that isn't unyielding or carapace

[jovial juniper]

And when done beyond right you kill bulwarks and let crushers with 1000 or so HP left

Too bad Pots isn't properly working

[haughty star]

bonus points if you pair with surge staff for killing specials fast. basically become gorlock the disabler

[jovial juniper]

Pair with a shock maul and you become an average power outlet

Oh wait, that's the name of my psyker

[hollow jolt]

my Vet is lvl 650 with 800 hours played

I have a lvl 30+0 Zealot and a lvl 30 + Ogryn only

so probably played for some time

[summer prairie]

Fixed an issue where some of the weapons with a Special activate action failed to correctly refresh their activation if the Special action was performed again while in the active duration of a previous Special activation.

https://streamable.com/h0jcrc

[jovial juniper]

Oh we are so back

[analog agate]

Going to guess no fix to warp flurry?

Not in patch notes at least

[summer prairie]

Not undocumented either

Kind of weird they didn't give this Illisi "feature" to other forceweapons as well

[unique mist]

Which one?

[summer prairie]

the video above

[unique mist]

Yeah but what is the feature? I don't understand

[summer prairie]

you can spam the special activation to generate peril

and refresh it in the process I guess

[unique mist]

ah does that not work on deimos and obscurus?

[summer prairie]

It previously did not and still does not

[unique mist]

right right

Its nice quick peril gen to get off creeping flames

[upper sun]

"Fixed an issue where the Valkyrie briefings would sometimes not finish before loading into a mission."

im gonna kill myself irl NOT in game

[compact iris]

anyone know for inferno staff dumb stat either damage or warp?

i chose damage but i see some people taking warp for dumb stat

[analog agate]

Warp is dump

[compact iris]

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[analog agate]

Dmg could have been a dump before the patch. But with empyric resolve and the ability to get perfect weapons, warp res is now the preferred dump

[compact iris]

okay thanks

wasted so much gold xD

ima get the warp dump then

[analog agate]

To be clear dmg can still be dump

[summer prairie]

if you like doing less damage

[radiant frigate]

oh really?

illisi is back on the menu siblings

[jovial juniper]

Quick is the keyword
I have an Illisi with 49% Warp res
Special 3 times and I'm max peril

I'm not empowering that sword

Also quietude value

[clear heath]

can they add it to deimos next?

i want it

maybe i should actually try to roll a 20 warp res deimos

[summer prairie]

good luck

[steep estuary]

Ooh I love that I can swap my deimoses to illisis

[clear heath]

unfortunately i am too poor to try to roll one

[summer prairie]

it needs to start at 60 60 60 60 0 to get there if you also want the other stats max

[haughty star]

Yeah you can just switch it to deimos

[clear heath]

i have less than 100k ordo dockets

[haughty star]

If you have a illisi that works

But deimos is shit for charging peril anyway cuz it won't let you double charge

[summer prairie]

This is a decent one except for those yucky 79s

[clear heath]

one day when i'm no longer poor, i'll make a good deimos

until then, i have a stinky 60%

[summer prairie]

Prettier, should just use this

Looks good at first glance but going to be stuck at low mobility too

[radiant frigate]

will go to 48% with max mobility

or something like that

[weary crane]

Gotta love it when the new update decreasing my fps by 40

[clear heath]

Did anyone ever happen to get the numbers for how much you get when discarding weapons?

[oak breach]

How good is the Surety of Arms talent for a gunpsyker? It seems cool but I don't know what to toss on my gun psyker to get it

[summer prairie]

the peril generation doesn't seem useful but the reload speed is fine. I take it over true aim with bolt pistol/assail

[plucky flax]

No tru aim with assail?

[summer prairie]

I don't notice much difference

[plucky flax]

It's melee weaving too

Push attack + 1 light on ds4

Get 5 stacks throw 1 assail guaranteed crit

[clear heath]

i can kinda understand wanting the reload more than the crit on bolt pistol

[summer prairie]

I never throw one assail though

[clear heath]

the thing takes ages to reload

[oak breach]

Eh idk, I use my melee a lot with DD + Scrier's, so the weakspot crit thing doesn't seem too crazy

[summer prairie]

except some rmb assail

[oak breach]

But then I run a lot of laspistol and it also reloads quickly

[summer prairie]

but yeah I really really hate reloading

[oak breach]

What's True Aim good for, generally? Any ranged build that uses crit, like Voidblast with Warp Nexus?

[plucky flax]

Good for gun assail and void

Used to be better with multiple stacks per shot

[oak breach]

Does it work at all with the Surge staff? Just on LMB?

[upper sun]

nope

just m1 spam

[plucky flax]

Meme build

Abuser will make fs nerf macro users

[oak breach]

Ah, so I have to take it off when swapping from Void to Surge, rats

[jovial juniper]

Pretty good for slugger spam
Or any special shot

[rain meadow]

psyker is in a weird spot

where the "meta" is very

unwizardy

m1 spam with electric staff and scriers gaze

[plucky flax]

Burga and right click surge

[jovial juniper]

"Infinite" smite

[clear heath]

do we get more ordo dockets if we consecrate the weapon before discarding?

wonder if i could effectively convert plasteel into dockets that way

[thorn cedar]

you could

you wouldnt be 'making' money but you would be making plasteel

[clear heath]

maybe i should make the purple emp gifts to gold before selling them

[thorn cedar]

probably just sell it on purple

sell one of each see what it gives you vs. upgrade cost

probably youll only upgrade to whatever tier gets you plasteel but i dont think you'd be profiting

wish i could just

give people all my fucken mats lmao

[clear heath]

i just want ordo dockets

and consecrate only costs plasteel, so if it gives more dockets...

[thorn cedar]

oh right, other way around

yea

maybe

[clear heath]

Just wondering if anyone's already done the numbers

maybe i'll document them manually in a spreadsheet if no one's done it yet

[summer prairie]

didn't pay attention to ratings but a yellow weapon was a bit under 10k ordos and a purple was 5.x

[clear heath]

that sounds like a pretty good jump

[summer prairie]

maybe if you sell like 100+

barely faster than just playing a few missions with +ordos

[silent coral]

what is the BiS blessing combo to go on mk4 DS these days? is it still shred + uncanny?

[plucky flax]

Only ultra based people use rampage uncanny

[quartz barn]

False ultra based people use the mk2

[upper sun]

ultra based people only play psyker in scab melee

[mossy oyster]

gunker*

[flint spear]

rending shockwave trama in scab melee

[jovial juniper]

Riposte Uncanny

[plucky flax]

Blaze is much better for melee scab only

[jovial juniper]

Rampage Precognition

[flint spear]

9dmg per tick on the carapace doesn't look that good

[upper sun]

ngmi............

[jovial juniper]

Hold up

[flint spear]

and you will be soulblazing w/ shriek anyway

[jovial juniper]

Get weapon with uncanny
Throw them on the ground
Stack true aim with your melee when they are down
Throw them on the ground
Stack .....

(poor fingers)

[slate oasis]

I wish showstopper was better. making things explode on death is too fun of a concept for the blessing to be so whatever

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-so-true-my-friend-halo-wars-spartan-meme-gif-26451791

you will only run DAMAGE blessings and you WILL like it

https://tenor.com/view/1984-talking-fast-mind-control-rapping-gif-20141835

[plucky flax]

It's for the ragers and maulers

[prime saddle]

anyone else got more points than they need on the lightning staff?

its annoying since it constantly shows up as a notification on the masteries tab

[hollow jolt]

sadly just a funny bug

[sour nest]

I really hoped they'd address this when they fixed the blessing descriptions :(

[hollow jolt]

they hate us

[mental rock]

probably low priority for them. although it does seem like it would be an easy fix

[proud mantle]

does dmg matter on inferno staff? the difference between 60% and 80% is just 2 dmg but with multipliers and all I might be missing something

especially with blaze away now

also i have no idea what the burn ratio on the dmg stat means?

[shut kite]

Does anyone want to help me get my last penance for psyker in party-finder? The one where you kill a monstrosity

[vernal agate]

Guys apologies to all gun psykers but whoever thought of the gun psyker build with smite should be shot

[late sapphire]

Fixed an issue where some of the weapons with a Special activate action failed to correctly refresh their activation if the Special action was performed again while in the active duration of a previous Special activation.

stroking my illisi rn

[barren pine]

whats the dumpstat on the voidstrike staff if there is one

[late sapphire]

blast radius

[barren pine]

thanks

[clear heath]

wondering why that power weapon bug even happened? Were they doing something with any power weapons last patch?

I guess thunder hammer?

[warm bolt]

So how 'good' is the fanning revolver on a gunker?

Can they make it cracked or nah?

[late sapphire]

Pretty good, warp splitting helps with the dogshit cleave and you can dump a mag or two during scriers gaze for mad burst damage

[warm bolt]

Does it delete bosses? lol

[wind jay]

Are there any notable bugs still remaining in Psyker's talent tree?

[summer prairie]

rending not working

and I guess empyric shock not working with purg primary

[wind jay]

Alright, thanks! Shame about purg.

[steep estuary]

Rending doesnt work? >_>

Also, is there a consensus on riposte and precognition? One better than the other? Both useless?

[late sapphire]

warp unbound still has an activation window you can explode it

[late sapphire]

precog sucks because of low uptime, riposte is pretty good

[steep estuary]

Fair enough

[ripe obsidian]

I can stroke my Illisi again. Life is good.

Had to redo graphics settings. Less good.

[clear heath]

fuck i don't want to redo my settings again

[steep estuary]

Eck oh right, settings

[clear heath]

guess i'll backup the file first

[ripe obsidian]

Before you launch the game, go to appdata/roaming/fatshark/dark--yeah, that

[steep estuary]

I was wondering why hadron was so shiny today

[ripe obsidian]

My game doesn't look nearly as pretty as it could, but I value 120 FPS over RTX stuff

[clear heath]

i've had to edit the file to limit corpses to 1 because the settings in-game don't go below 3

i guess they thought it'd look too jarring, but personally i like blasting things out of existence

[broken sentinel]

is psyker enervating shield fixed with the recent update ? it used to take 1 point of dmg instead of 8

[steep estuary]

Y'know what? I'm curious. I'm gonna jack my settings and run a mission.

I know damn well its not going to survive streaming at this level, but I'm curious how my rig handles it casually

[ripe obsidian]

Good luck

[hollow jolt]

10 fps Auric Maelstrom player

[steep estuary]

Solid 60 in the valkyrie pre-mission, 70-90 mourningstar

[north hatch]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d4ec082-91ce-494b-98ec-c9fefd773029 what would I put as my last node for my BB scriers gunker

[hollow jolt]

wait until your rig has to render the 900,000 polygon ass of the Beast of Nurgle

[steep estuary]

Holding 80-100 atm

[north hatch]

Also how worth it is battle meditation cause I don't like the rng aspect of it but it procs a ton on fodder so I might take it over perilous combustion

[steep estuary]

Whoa 76??

[north hatch]

Oh whoops my build didn't show

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d4ec208-c080-4427-ac41-2cd2515d2703/bb-gunker

[late sapphire]

Pc is very worth it on any build

[north hatch]

I might just take PC and battle meditation both

I was debating instead of battle meditation to take witchfire

Or just a 15 toughness node

[thorn cedar]

battle med wont be relevant for you

[late sapphire]

in your situation i think i would dump some nodes and grab by crack of bone and warp splitting

BM and Warp Expenditure both are wasted points on your build i think

Warp Expenditure generally just sucks

[steep estuary]

70 fps is the lowest ive seen so far, but it hasnt been hairy at all yet

Wait until I hit the obscura den lol

[north hatch]

What's crack of bone and warp splitting

And what would you suggest instead of BM and warp expenditure

[late sapphire]

this stuff

[north hatch]

I don't think I can reach there nicely

[late sapphire]

Also why the hell do you have warp unbound

[north hatch]

Why do I have warp unboind

I made this build in like 20 seconds forgot how they changed scriers

[late sapphire]

Soulstealer too

[north hatch]

Wait I can't reach the melee tree at all

[late sapphire]

Horizontally

[north hatch]

I need psykenetic aura

It's not letting me

[late sapphire]

Guh?

[north hatch]

I dumped the points I had for BM and warp expenditure and they just disappeared?

[late sapphire]

You can't take the tdr small node?

[north hatch]

Or I'm blind

And put them somewhere else

[wind jay]

UI bug?

[north hatch]

Ok I fixed it

Hm I can only take crack

Or warp split

Not both

[late sapphire]

soulstealer

toughness on warp kill

what warp kills lol

[north hatch]

Why the fuck do I have soul stealer????

KEK

Brain is not working today

[late sapphire]

I think that should make it easier yeah

[north hatch]

Kk thanks

[late sapphire]

bb sg is wild though

[north hatch]

I mean it's mainly just do they psychedelics aura

I could take scriers instead

I mean smite

Oh my god

[late sapphire]

You are cooked

[steep estuary]

lmfao

[north hatch]

PSYCHEDELICS AURA

[glossy escarp]

Eat a sandwich and have some coffee, sibling

[north hatch]

DID I WAKE UP DYSLEXIC

[late sapphire]

Bro i can feel the smoke coming out of your ears

[north hatch]

MY BRAIN IS MELTING

Anyways yeah the blitz is definitely the most useless part of the build

And I can just right click BB for warp rider during down time

[clear heath]

ok so i wanted to preserve my settings, so i just changed version = 2 to version = 3 and it worked

why can't fatshark make these settings resets optional? fuck having to go through the files for this

[late sapphire]

Recent update put me from 50 to 15 fps on same settings

very nice

[clear heath]

wait i went from 90 to 60 fps

wtf

wait why is nvidia overlay 4k while i have the game open?

??? game was in 4k for some reason

my monitor is 1440p

that explains a lot

Oh right, they removed borderless fullscreen as an option because that's how fullscreen functions now, so i guess it fucked my resolution when it changed screen modes

dunno why darktide auto detects 4k though

[oak breach]

What keystone do I use on a Shield, Smite, Voidstrike crit build?

[late sapphire]

crit build -> disrupt destiny

[plucky flax]

Dirupt deez nuts.

[rain meadow]

it reset graphics settings

[rain meadow]

smite wants empowered psyonics DESPERATELY

warp syphon is just always good

[oak breach]

I was under the impression it was still kinda meh even with empowered psionics? Like you wouldn't really use it for hordeclear anyway

[late sapphire]

i was using autodetected before anyways

Only thing that changed is fullscreen to borderless fullscreen

[oak breach]

I'm more or less trying to make three builds, each using a different combination of blitz, ability and keystone

But psyker keystones are super weird

I don't really know where to place which one

[late sapphire]

If you ever use smite, you use it with EP

If you don't have EP there is no reason to use smite

Only reason to take it without ep is to get access to psykinetics aura

[oak breach]

I have a gun psyker Assail + DD + Scrier's Gaze build, and then a Soulfire build with VS, Brain Rupture and Warp Battery (to reduce the CD of VS to make use of that -charge speed on Brain Rupture node)

So that leaves me with a shield, smite, EP build, which I've tried combining with a Warp Nexus Voidstrike build

[late sapphire]

That's weird shoehorning

If you want to properly using smite, go smite ep shriek - if you want a shield build that works well try ep bb with shield walls and purgatus

[oak breach]

It is, but it's been working fine-ish for other classes so weh.

I make builds around themes, but psyker's talent tree branches are kind of a mishmash I feel

[late sapphire]

Consider more weapon focused builds

[oak breach]

I guess it's that I also wanted a Voidstrike staff build, but don't know what Blitz to pair it with. It kinda does everything well

[late sapphire]

voidstrike is best employed with a nominal gunker build

with warp unbound it works quite well with scriers gaze

[oak breach]

And what about Warp Battery?

[late sapphire]

Warp Siphon builds, canonically left-side

[oak breach]

And still, that leaves the question of the best choice of blitz

[late sapphire]

surge staff illisi sword, bb (unused) venting shriek warp siphon, something like that

[late sapphire]

It really doesn't, assail sg dd, grab warp splitting and warp rider also

[oak breach]

It does kinda leave me feeling like I'm using Assail because I feel like it, rather than because I need to. Most targets I can just shoot with my staff.

[late sapphire]

Assail is better in certain situations

Spread out hordes or small elites, ragers directly up in your face etc

You can always throw a few shards to stagger then swap to staff and blast

[rain meadow]

scriers wants the right side one

well, for guns

not entirely sure about staves

[jovial juniper]

Voidstrike and Kino can use DD

Like

[late sapphire]

...kino?

[jovial juniper]

ElectroKINEctic
Like
24% extra damage from WS
Or 15% extra damage and 30% crit damage from DD
For zapping

[late sapphire]

I genuinely hate you

[jovial juniper]

Hehehe

I'm just adapting to the new name

[summer dragon]

Psyker propoganda

[jovial juniper]

Psyker pre workout
That's what the emperor uses

Also isn't Electrokinectic a bit deceiving
Kinetic is usually affiliated with movement

[radiant frigate]

it moves enemy health downward

[jovial juniper]

[clear heath]

It moves lightning

That's how electrokinesis is always depicted

If anything, it's weird that this isn't the trend with all of them. Why isn't inferno a pyrokinetic staff?

[ripe obsidian]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrokinetics

[kindred edge]

Yeah, that's what makes it dumb. The "-kinetic" suffix just means that you can move or manipulate whatever the prefix is. But the new names being weird and also inconsistent is hot dog water.

[ripe obsidian]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/electrokinetic

It's a real word.

[sand ferry]

hey anyone else's addons down after patch?

[jovial juniper]

Hah
I like how it lists irl functions
Then fictional powers

[late sapphire]

Any steam update might undo the mod patching, just redo it

[steep estuary]

What's the uhhhh dump stat on a devils claw sword?

[jovial juniper]

The sword

Just kidding

[steep estuary]

wheeze

[jovial juniper]

Gimme a sec

[mossy oyster]

mobi

[jovial juniper]

Seems like mobility yeah

[steep estuary]

[radiant frigate]

what about cleave targets

i thought that stat is garbage on anything it is on

[mossy oyster]

prob I mean if its on melee soyker anyway

you can 80 mobi

dump cleave

and just use warp splitting

[radiant frigate]

splitwarping

[mossy oyster]

shitsplitting

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blink-cat-blinking-cat-funny-cat-funny-cat-blinking-gif-27202865

[strong gulch]

IDK about cleave targets, but I know cleave damage (at least on DS) offers VERY little and is also bugged.

I bring that up mostly because this game's naming practice is bad.

[nocturne dust]

Devil's Claw actually cleaves and such, so I wouldn't recommend it

[nocturne dust]

Mad talk for someone in parry distance

[radiant frigate]

oh nooo what are you going to do, nothing unless i attack you?

consider me terrified

[austere warren]

Been running around with it in aurics while leveling.

Unsure of other models but the mk4 is actually not shit assuming whatever build you got going on in the first place has a way of handling elites of any kind.

[radiant frigate]

actually not shit unless you want to take on elites is not the endorsement you think it is

[austere warren]

And if it's a rager or scab gunner/shotgunner whatever it's going down in at least two headshots. I'm sure some of that weight is also being pulled by my talent choices but I changed my mind about it when I just said fuck it and started using it.

[jovial juniper]

Oh oh
You're approaching me

Pvp but both players have dclaw

[austere warren]

I could've worded that better but it's really not a detriment of the weapon to me. You can always use a different melee, sure. What I'm saying is is that unless it's like a crusher, it's not a dead in the water choice.

Plus, if your build just has extra tools anyway as a psyker, which there are so many, it's not a problem at all.

[radiant frigate]

right but it is not main weapon material

[austere warren]

I already ran a scrier gaze dd build a few times, pretty free honestly.

And I'm not talking about it being the main weapon, I'm strictly talking about it as an actual functional tool part of a build. It doesn't need to be.

Point is is that it's not like I'm out here fighting against the weapon itself, the tool i chose and developed, in order to perform the function I'm using it for. So, it's fine.

[zinc phoenix]

Der claw is awesome, haters 👏 gonna 👏 hate 💅

[radiant frigate]

i will concede that it is better than heavy sword

but that is about it

[austere warren]

I just kept it simple and ran basic flak/maniac and savage sweep n rampage. It works. /shrug

Dunno what else can be done with it but I'm building a voidblast finally so it's whatever.

Only melee I really run in psyker is like, ds/fsword/dclaw

Extra note, its interaction on kinetic deflection is really nice.

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah the kinetic deflection aspect is hilarious

Parry with it is gold

[radiant frigate]

using the power of the warp to counterstrike a daemonhost back to hel? satisfactory

[austere warren]

I'm usually just keeping things spaced out and blown up/cut down but in emergencies, that parry + talent has unironically saved my life when I had no other option but to pop the parry and block.

I slept on kinetic deflection because I straight up would just not be out here not getting refreshed/extended dodges. A foolish choice back then.

I haven't bothered to look into yet but does duelling sword have an autoguard for successful melee hits against player characters?

Or is that just some whatever animation playing out? Every other melee i can remember just shows your guard lowering as you're struck.

[radiant frigate]

explain what you mean by that

[austere warren]

When I've been hit while using a duelling sword, the character raises their hand like they're guarding. I just always immediately guard, shove, dodge, ult, whatever the moment I take enough dmg to be worried about it.

But I don't know if it actually does anything.

Idk if it's just an animation or if it has actionable purpose.

[radiant frigate]

as in, sword held out in front?

[austere warren]

Since parries are entirely on dclaws alone

[austere warren]

Yeah.

Im thinking it was something similar to saltzpyre rapier n pistol since it does have a kind of autoguaed.

[radiant frigate]

something like this but one-handed?

[austere warren]

One handed and held diagonally.

Similar to the actual guard stance ypu take when you guard with the duelling sword.

[radiant frigate]

i do not think it passively makes you enter a block stance

but i do know it lingers in something like the stance pictured above after either attacking or blocking

[austere warren]

I'll usually see it when I'm shot from a blindspot. Might just be the character reacting to getting hit and nothing else.

[radiant frigate]

most likely

[proud mantle]

is trauma blaze or just purgatus better nowadays

both feel similar to me now

[nocturne dust]

Yes.

[nocturne dust]

Imagine trying to make melee a main weapon on psyker and ending up using assail more anyway.

[patent mango]

i got assail on my melee build and i forget i have it anyways

[analog agate]

Both good. Blast has the upper hand, imo, because it still knocks everything around

[patent mango]

might just go back to smite to get cdr

[radiant frigate]

agony

give force greatsword

[nocturne dust]

They're both very strong. It's hard to say which is better since they both scale to any amount of enemies and have no trouble beating out anything (except crushers for purg and bosses for trauma)

[patent mango]

force greatsword is when psyker becomes real

[lilac ridge]

I wanna dual wield force swords xD

or a force pike

[nocturne dust]

So you're using your secondary more than your melee?

[patent mango]

huh no it'd run out of ammo in like 30s

(fanning revolver)

[nocturne dust]

Ew

[patent mango]

it looks cool thooo

[nocturne dust]

Your stats can't be that good tho

[patent mango]

just stab them

[late sapphire]

get electrocute on heavy attack

[patent mango]

noo.....

[nocturne dust]

y stab when you can shoot space wizard magic

[patent mango]

cause i can stab with space wizard magic

its like a double win

(illisi)

[nocturne dust]

charged strike enjoyer

[patent mango]

im not using charged strike...............

[nocturne dust]

disgusting illisi pretender

[patent mango]

im not using it till they buff the heck out of it

then i will

[nocturne dust]

Fair, but also using illisi as your main weapon just feels so boring and awful even with a build made for it

meleekers need help

[patent mango]

if they just added a talent that buffs all non force melees then nerfed ds psyker would have so many more options for meleeing

(heavy sword)

[jovial juniper]

No one enjoys Charged Strike

[patent mango]

im trying to forget charged strike exists tbh

[nocturne dust]

No, they should add a talent that buffs just all melees

[radiant frigate]

sweep denier

[nocturne dust]

Even the force swords are like... eh

[patent mango]

wuh?

[nocturne dust]

I mean compare to the melee of other classes

Psyker is crap at it

[patent mango]

defo needs a 2 handed force melee

[vagrant grove]

I barely ever use staffs
Does anyone feel like doing work for me and pointing me to the meta builds for each?

[nocturne dust]

Meleekers when they have to charge and strike twenty dozen times in a row:

[radiant frigate]

you, when you realize it isn't a power sword and its regular attacks also have damage

[fossil lagoon]

is there a place to report bugs on this discord

[nocturne dust]

I literally use illisi without charging mostly

Still crap, still bad, 0/10, not a staff

[jovial juniper]

I want it to stun
Like some budget shock maul
I want to make Skullcrusher Dclaw 1 a reality

[patent mango]

they could prolly just make charged strike deal 15% of total dmg and call it a day

[nocturne dust]

Make it the cooler shock maul

[strong gulch]

You'll have to report them on the forums. #🎒support-issues

Your issue might already be ackowledged.

[austere warren]

Crukih's psyker builds on gamerlantern or whatever it's called (the often linked site by fatshark with the "community builds" build) have been a pretty solid go-to when it came to my recent crash course delving back into psyker.

Person produces reasoning in their descriptions and it's all there.

Major highlights: between all staves in these builds nearly each one is using warp flurry (decrease in charge speed for 2ndary attacks from staves each time you cast) and war nexus (critical chance increase per cast).

[nocturne dust]

General staff build

Works for all staves

Of course, you can make a few node changes for purg

[fossil lagoon]

have to sign up to a forum to report bugs 💀 💀

[split lance]

sometimes when i talk mad trash i wonder if people report me

[vagrant grove]

Thanks

[austere warren]

The talent spread from deadvoid also works solidly. Can confirm, have used them in the past before rebuilding my psyker and stable generalist builds work decently for every staff.

[strong gulch]

💀

[vagrant grove]

Also just to build it more for my playstyle, which nodes would be the most and least necessary?

[austere warren]

What exactly is your playstyle?

[strong gulch]

Toxic Tren. Sounds like a stage name. ✨

[split lance]

im VERY toxic

[strong gulch]

Not taking a bite. got it

[vagrant grove]

Hard to explain I guess I’m just pure gunpsyker, I play like a zealot but faster and a lot of weapon switching

[split lance]

wu t

[nocturne dust]

Purg would drop soulstealer for empathic evasion and the 4% on kill for 10% on soulblaze (warp siphon)

Mettle and Perfect Timing are most expendable on non-purg builds, and Kinetic Deflection (and the connector node) if you don't block (but I highly recommend you never take KD off and learn to use it)

[strong gulch]

LOL. Don't eat toxic things.

[fossil lagoon]

seen invisible rumbler twice since patch today @flint rock

i'm not signing up to ur forums to report this sry

[vagrant grove]

Mettle and perfect timing are usually must haves I thought, has the tree update made this not the case?
Or is it more just not necessary for staves

[nocturne dust]

You can also drop Kinetic Flayer/Brain Burst.

[nocturne dust]

The whole tree is must-haves, really.

If you want to drop something, gotta drop something good

[jovial juniper]

So uh
Forums are literally the best place to report those kind of stuff
It's also not recent kek

[lethal lagoon]

We're running some darktide

[split lance]

join vc 69

[lethal lagoon]

[split lance]

NOWWWWWWWWWWWWW

[lethal lagoon]

If you wanna

[split lance]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lethal lagoon]

????

[split lance]

HE WANTS TOO

[lethal lagoon]

ʰᵉ ᵐᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵏᶦⁿᵈᵃ ʷᵃⁿⁿᵃ

[split lance]

ʰᵉ ᵐᶦᵍʰᵗ ᵏᶦⁿᵈᵃ ʷᵃⁿⁿᵃ

[lethal lagoon]

[fossil lagoon]

feel free to post it on the forums if u want i dont mind

[jovial juniper]

[split lance]

^high^

[split lance]

-# hiya there atlas

[true whale]

Can anyone recommend a good staff? mostly for carapace and elites specialist etc

[nocturne dust]

Any staff

[true whale]

[nocturne dust]

To explain, any staff is currently very strong.

[true whale]

surely some have to be better for carapace and single targets and stuff

[nocturne dust]

Surge/Electrokinetic is probably the best rn, with Purgatus/Inferno being second and Fire Trauma/Voidblast third.

[zinc phoenix]

Void with SG is hilarious against carapace

[nocturne dust]

They all just kinda wipe the floor with stuff.

Like, surge is supposed to be the single-target staff, but really it combines with shriek to be an everything staff

Voidstrike and Voidblast just go bbbbrrrrrr

[true whale]

i'm very new to Psyker so i'm just trying to figure out staffs rn, the voidstaff? i think is what i've been using

which isn't bad

[nocturne dust]

and Purgatus is actually the worst against carapace but eats everything else

[nocturne dust]

There are two void staves

Voidstrike and voidblast

Because Fatshark is dumb

Also staff builds really only start getting OP when you max them out, before then I'd recommend you just do whatever and focus on levelling.

[zinc phoenix]

Try voidblast with all the fire related stuff you can find in the psyker tree and on the stick. Knocks crusher on ass and lets you make fire everywhere for big domage

Very powerful build that offers a good mix of control and damage

Warp charges helps you shriek more for more damage

[true whale]

aight fair, thanks for the advice. i'm using a blob firing staff rn

idk how to describe it

it's not bad though, super accurate ranged.. blobs

[late sapphire]

Balls

[true whale]

yes, ball staff

[late sapphire]

That's voidstrike

It's balling

Psyker scales super hard with levels, both in terms of staff stats and talents

If you are low level just fuck around, maybe grab the assail blitz to fall back on if a weapon doesn't work well, it clears anything sub carapace

[split lance]

@lethal lagoon

[lethal lagoon]

Do i need to go dig up every mael scoreboard

[late sapphire]

Mael train...

[split lance]

this isnt even auric train

smh

[austere warren]

Voidstrike is pretty nice overall. Extremely reliable throughout each stage of development ime because of its output, cleave, aoe and cc. You'll keep getting used to the pace that you'll play at and can play at over time.

Repition and all that.

[true whale]

Ye i'm thinking force sword and voidstrike for full psykery psyker build

no ammo, no grenades

[nocturne dust]

@lethal lagoon may I join?

[quasi lynx]

the psykers age is coming

[ripe obsidian]

Why is there such an enormous disparity in damage dealt by this veteran in Scoreboard and PowerDI?

[austere warren]

I'm quite a gun psyker myself. It's a lot of fun. Mobility, damage, danger (though that can be applied to just about all of psyker depending on what you do) on critical mistakes, etc.

[nocturne dust]

Scoreboard has trouble tracking some newer stuff since it isn't updated all that much

[ripe obsidian]

Fair

Then I wasn't outdamaged by a veteran. Phew.

[nocturne dust]

To be completely fair, I have no idea if PowerDI has a similar problem

[ripe obsidian]

I don't know either

I was just shocked at this guy's damage output

[daring bone]

The Voidstrike staff is a nice all-around staff. However, due to the absurd nature of LMB Electro with EP Smite, the Voidstrike staff is greatly outclassed by the Electro staff.

Is this info from the atheneum still accurate or is it outdated now

[ripe obsidian]

It is recent

[daring bone]

thanks!

[ripe obsidian]

Voidstrike is still viable, mind.

But LMB surge is silly

[nocturne dust]

I think the Atheneum overrates lmb spam with ep smite. Yeah, it's good, but that's EP smite.

but wouldn't be the first time I disagree with the Atheneum

[vagrant grove]

It's so powerful as well, people really underestimate it.
I've had so many people get mad because I'm a pskyer that uses ammo (apparently a sin) but then a horde appears and it's gone in 4 seconds and then they understand lol

[nocturne dust]

It's really not powerful

Like, it works, yes, but gunker is definitely a downgrade compared to staves.

[patent mango]

ok i take it back im taking charged strike back it looks cool

[nocturne dust]

I have to kill you for not following the meta now.

[patent mango]

this is the meta though

charged strike enfeeble

its like at least 200% more damage /s

[nocturne dust]

It... it's not?

[vagrant grove]

You sure? I've never felt.. weak

[nocturne dust]

[vagrant grove]

Is it just because of survivability?

[nocturne dust]

Gunker isn't weak, staves are just that strong.

[patent mango]

1 shot uhh uhh poxwalker

[vagrant grove]

Damage seems like it can't be matched

[nocturne dust]

It can definitely be matched

Staves outperform guns on every category except bosses

and for bosses, purgatus + dueling sword still does work

[flint pawn]

boss damage staff 🙏

[nocturne dust]

Now, to be fair, if you don't have a full build yet it can seem like staves aren't that great, especially surge/electrokinetic and trauma/voidblast

[vagrant grove]

I don't understand, the damage I can do with gunpsyker seems to always be higher then what I see from staves

[nocturne dust]

Those two staves suffer a lot if they aren't maxed out due to how they scale and breakpoints

[flint pawn]

soulblaze trauma is the holy grail

[nocturne dust]

Git gud?

[vagrant grove]

I am good though

[patent mango]

gun gaming

[split lance]

join us

[lethal lagoon]

U waNna PlAY?

[patent mango]

bistol psyker is reaaal

[nocturne dust]

Yes.

[vagrant grove]

But I am trying staves so yea

[nocturne dust]

[split lance]

im on bistol rn

[nocturne dust]

Lmao, the game disconnected me as soon as I joined the voice chat

[flint pawn]

this is my only 1m run and it's with soulblaze trauma, I will never let it go after this

[vagrant grove]

This was with gunpsyker

[flint pawn]

literally 100 damage higher than mine

[nocturne dust]

The real question is how long were you playing

[vagrant grove]

Yeah that's what I'm saying

It seems pretty even

Not sure, I could go check

[nocturne dust]

Get ovenproof's plugin, it gives a better breakdown of damage

[patent mango]

staff vs gun gang wars

[ripe obsidian]

I took 0 damage in a HISTG Train mission. I feel pleased.

[vagrant grove]

Power DI or whatever yea? I have that too

Not sure if this one was saved but I'll see

updating rn

[nocturne dust]

Not PowerDI, but that works

[vagrant grove]

Oh which one are you referring to?

[ornate hamlet]

update finishing in 5 hours

yay

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1257729761149587528.webp?size=48

[vagrant grove]

its 5 gigs what the hell is your download speed

[radiant frigate]

does this mean 4 psykers is in the works

[vagrant grove]

It's not saved in PDI, got it after this match

[vagrant grove]

24 minutes

[true whale]

[radiant frigate]

[true whale]

although dialogue with 4 of the funny psyker voice does sound fun

[ripe obsidian]

That is a lot of enemies in 24 minutes. Jeez.

[vagrant grove]

They never stopped

The director decided to literally never stop the horde that match

[ripe obsidian]

I have a 1034k damage match in my recent history, but it was just about 40 minutes. My team also had a lot of deaths.

Other teammates were 720k, 401k, and 487k, for reference

[vagrant grove]

Looking through my scoreboards this is my only 1m damage run that isn’t at least 30 minutes

[austere warren]

I'd say that realistically, gun psyker will typically fall behind solid staff builds in the long term.

However, gun psyker is very good at (usually) dropping vips and maintaining ones own upkeep reliably with more opportunities for just removing oneself from a dangerous situation that won't explicitly require fighting back immediately using magic or whatever else.

You definitely take a hit overall dps but the incentive to stay ramped up and flowing between your windows of power is what keeps most gun psyker afloat on top of its more common weapon choices (high dodge rate, good damage on weakspot, etc)

By no measure is it weak in my experience. I have noticed the difference though.

[ripe obsidian]

Are they largely Maelstrom?

[vagrant grove]

Yeah

Haven’t hit 1m in regular yet

[ripe obsidian]

Gotcha. I typically stay in HISTG, so it's harder to get such large numbers

[vagrant grove]

I used to also, but then it got boring

[ripe obsidian]

Every time I venture into Maelstrom, my team dies and ragequits within 5 minutes

Then I end up alone and frustrated

[vagrant grove]

Yeeep…

[nocturne dust]

1 million damage on a 24 minute mission (with all that damage on your teammates still) is kinda crazy regardless of build. Something weird is going on with that mission.

[vagrant grove]

Yeah as I said the horde didn’t stop

In any case, thanks for the help
If I have any more questions can I DM you?

[radiant frigate]

that is, assuming the link works

[ripe obsidian]

This video isn't available

:(

[radiant frigate]

damn you clad

[nocturne dust]

Of course.

[radiant frigate]

silly link impermanence

[vagrant grove]

appreciate it

[flint pawn]

what is it with enclavum baross and people just.. not doing the objective.. and then us all just dying because no one's doing the objective..

[ornate hamlet]

I don't even know missions by name

[clear heath]

the batteries for the bridge

no one ever goes to them

they just farm kills at the top

[analog agate]

That part is now one of, if the not hardest parts in the game

[nocturne dust]

Did they change it?

[steel flame]

the batteries spawn alot farther awawy

[analog agate]

They changed it a bit ago

Batteries further. Infinite spawns. 8-10? spawn points now instead of 2

[steel flame]

it clearly wasnt annoying enough before

and they got rid of the ability to kill the mobs at the spawn doors

[analog agate]

They also used to primarily spawn from one side or the other. Now it is just a blunderbuss of spawning everywhere

A lot of people can’t deal with it haha. And that is BEFORE we consider people are supposed to get the batteries

[daring bone]

would voidstrike be better for someone starting out?

I know it doesnt matter all that much but I'm just curious

[nocturne dust]

Hm, I would say so. It's probably the best staff at lower levels.

[analog agate]

Voidstrike or inferno imo

[nocturne dust]

Inferno doesn't do great at lower levels because of enemy density imo.

[analog agate]

Oh yeah, I wasn’t thinking of that. Just ease of use

Voidstrike is easy cause it is a gun. With infinite ammo

[nocturne dust]

Voidstrike is the cooler plasma

[north hatch]

Ngl am I the only one who finds force swords kind of a hassle to use on gun psyker

[daring bone]

does this description not apply to the electro staff

[north hatch]

Might just be cause the knife and dueling swords are op

[nocturne dust]

electro barely meets its breakpoints with a full build and is very reliant on talents, which is why it sucks at lower levels

[nocturne dust]

No, charging to clear horde dumb

(note: this is my opinion)

[daring bone]

oh cool, ty

[analog agate]

Imo electro is better because it can deal with specials/shooters easier. But it is random hitting BP and requires more effort on certain aspects of gameplay.

But I wouldn’t consider it easier

It is in terms of auto aim though, haha

Also, I am referring to aurics/mael. Anything below that void is better

[radiant frigate]

minus boss damage

[daring bone]

the premise behind void being better is using the right clicks on the void?

including on hoard?

[austere warren]

You can and it's pretty good.

I don't care for the blast radius folks much but that's just me.

I want my magic to be large.

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but it does suffer a bit on hordes

but should be completely fine at lower levels

[radiant frigate]

the premise behind void is the joy of a suspiciously voidstrike-shaped hole in the horde

[radiant frigate]

what's so good about the knife that a ds doesn't do better

bleed?

[modest perch]

Faster

Go nyooooom

[radiant frigate]

same basic run speed except for the heavy holding thing

[zinc phoenix]

Left click

[zinc phoenix]

Things the blunts can do while I cheer them on

[radiant frigate]

i am thinking of joining the blunts

[zinc phoenix]

🔥 blaze it

[radiant frigate]

traxis 420 sighted

cadian surprise pack

[strong gulch]

Thanks for the games @split lance @nocturne dust @lethal lagoon

[nocturne dust]

We did great and had 0 flaws or messups

[strong gulch]

true

[flint pawn]

melee only enclavum baross, and this match lasted as far as getting the 2 power cells in before a plague ogryn wiped us

I tried, siblings, I tried

but then I lagged back and the trapper net got me :(

[zinc phoenix]

I had a guy boom himself twice in under five minutes playing trauma + sg

It was impressive

[cinder tangle]

I run venting specifically because I suck at resource management in horde shooters, I do not trust myself

[north hatch]

scriers + crit bleed perk + that one psyker skill that allows peril to block and then you just spam block attack

Both are strong though maybe I need to use more force swords

[radiant frigate]

for what exactly

bosses? crushers? hordes?

[north hatch]

Yeah it's just really strong against hordes and

Crushers

[radiant frigate]

you're telling me that the single target shank move is good vs hordes

am i missing something

[north hatch]

Have you tried it before

[radiant frigate]

no

[north hatch]

Then go try it

[haughty star]

Lol knife is ok at best for horde

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, knife isn't that great imo

[haughty star]

Its really not any better than ds4 for that purpose, not on psyker anyway

[north hatch]

For me it feels pretty equal

[radiant frigate]

never once did it occur to me to spam knife push attacks into a horde

[clear heath]

it is not good at hordes, but there are some builds where it's better than ds at them

[radiant frigate]

am i going to individually shank the horde to death

[clear heath]

there are slashes

[haughty star]

I can't see it. Not on psyker other than just wanting to run a knife lol

[clear heath]

not on psyker specifically

[radiant frigate]

but they are not the push attack, are they

[clear heath]

i just run it on vet

[haughty star]

Yeah we talking psyker here

[north hatch]

Scriers and knife is really strong imo

[clear heath]

it does benefit a lot from the crit

[radiant frigate]

scrier's makes any melee stronger except maybe illisi

[haughty star]

Not any stronger than ds4 imo but you do you man

[clear heath]

scriers with illisi actually does work fine

[north hatch]

I never said it was better than the ds4

[radiant frigate]

now? yes

[haughty star]

Before it was alright

[ripe obsidian]

I just had my worst game in months, holy moly. Pounced 4 times, blew myself up 2 times.

[lethal lagoon]

That sure sounds like me and Tren

[radiant frigate]

I'm sorry to hear that sibling

[lethal lagoon]

[haughty star]

I played without my Naga the other day and it was aids

[nocturne dust]

You know what I want? I want scrier's to do something wacky for meleeker like double the hit range of melee.

[haughty star]

Meleeker is a meme

[nocturne dust]

Do weird things Fatshark, stop with these dumb damage buffs

[haughty star]

Just death by chip every time

[radiant frigate]

i want to have something wacky like a force greatsword

[haughty star]

Unless shield which nerfs your damage output

[radiant frigate]

i also want there to be some incentive to melee

[nocturne dust]

That's why I think the range would be interesting and help make meleeker safer

[radiant frigate]

other than just the joy of melee

[haughty star]

Yeah

[nocturne dust]

What are we, zealots?

[haughty star]

Well most if the other classes do incentivize melee

All of them do actually

Db vet, ogryn stuff, zealot stuff

[radiant frigate]

but alas our entire talent tree affects both ranged and melee or just ranged (except for like 1-2 talents)

agony

whereas psyker has "unlimited ammo" so you're incentivized to sit back and cast all day

low base toughness is just another slap in the face

[nocturne dust]

meleeker also has a hard time using their talents to regen toughness

[lethal lagoon]

You forgot the T in my name

It happens

[radiant frigate]

the other three classes can press f for anywhere between 50-100% toughness, in which 50% is almost equal to psyker's 100%

[lethal lagoon]

It definitely feels like a toughness drought atm with the expanded tree and ER

[radiant frigate]

my bad, typo

[lethal lagoon]

Souldrinkers is always an option

[nocturne dust]

They should remove the debuff from ER.

[radiant frigate]

look at all these new talents i can't pick without dropping more toughness

yippie

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, it's basically fun or toughness atm

[nocturne dust]

Most of the new talents suck anyway

[radiant frigate]

look, 10% rending if above 75% peril and only for warp attacks

vet gets 10% for everything for free at all times

[nocturne dust]

look, charged strike

[radiant frigate]

crack of bone is ok for a melee scriers setup

new MM is cool i suppose

10% AS node is good

warp splitting is good

[nocturne dust]

Souldrinker in the wrong spot and actually not doing much, perilous assault, channeled force

[radiant frigate]

souldrinker should just be baked into soulstealer

[nocturne dust]

But maybe they'll just keep adding new talents instead of fixing the old. Unlucky for Some and Warp Rupture still exists

[lethal lagoon]

Put BM next to warp rider, and put souldrinker where BM is

[radiant frigate]

friendship ended with psyker

now veteran is my best friend

[lethal lagoon]

When you enter a fantasy world and pick the most basic vanilla option

[nocturne dust]

Still wouldn't take it.

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, sure.

But you'd take deez nuts

[cinder tangle]

Luv me vet'run

[nocturne dust]

and crush them, yes

[radiant frigate]

look, i tried picking magus but it revealed itself to actually be wizard

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/buster-nutcracker-gif-7627221

[lethal lagoon]

[radiant frigate]

so fighter it is

(paladin ok too)

[nocturne dust]

Where's my artificer class at

[radiant frigate]

in the deep hive

anyway another reason is that psyker cosmetics all have these stupid tubes ihatethemihatethemihatethem

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/cave-parachuting-hole-gif-19326814

I hope the 5th class, if it ever happens, also doesn't have ammo. I hate ammo.

[radiant frigate]

i hope force/power greatsword soon

[patent mango]

force greatsword mentioned

[haughty star]

Oh great so we gonna have a rral force eviscerator

[brazen rampart]

Inb4 weapon servitor.

[radiant frigate]

yes i want a melee weapon so oppressive that i don't need to pull my ranged weapon

[haughty star]

Force chainsword, force power sword, force evis

[radiant frigate]

in fact make it take up both slots

[patent mango]

make it take up all 3 slots

[nocturne dust]

Don't worry, next update they'll buff Zealot/Vet damage output so psyker just loses in everything and then they'll implement force sword (for Ogryn)

[patent mango]

next update zealot gets force sword

[nocturne dust]

I have a hard time imagining a melee that good, specials gonna special.

[radiant frigate]

i mean evis xv kinda does this

[nocturne dust]

I disagree, it easily gets overwhelmed

[radiant frigate]

most specials are also pretty meleeable

[radiant frigate]

it's not the greatest in the crushertide test

[patent mango]

eviscerators always feel so slow to me

[radiant frigate]

i think in terms of crushertide ds4 is the undisputed champion

[patent mango]

why did they give ds4 to zealot........

[radiant frigate]

or vet

[patent mango]

power creep

[radiant frigate]

vet can do The Funny™️ and onetap crushers with thrust

without uncanny stacks

[patent mango]

i mean psyker does have least unique melees right now

[radiant frigate]

just force swords

[patent mango]

so we really do need a force greatsword

[radiant frigate]

time for big force sword

tbf vet has psword (good) and shovels (exist)

[orchid ibex]

i want a force polearm so bad

[flint pawn]

is there a memory leak

[radiant frigate]

yes in my head

the memories are leaking out

please send help before they drift away

[flint pawn]

:(

anyway

[radiant frigate]

i would very much like to have them back

[flint pawn]

carapace purgatus

we lost this

because of the game running out of memory for me

but carapace purgatus vs mostly melee makes its debut wee

people were in and out of that match, regarding the zealot

[patent mango]

dual force swords....

[patent mango]

at least hadron doesnt destroy my eviscerators anymore...

[flint pawn]

Power DI is causing my memory leaks, time for it to go 😔

[strong gulch]

Rest in peas

[patent mango]

illisi makes me feel like a lawnmower

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, but the time it takes to run between them makes it real hard to compete with ranged

[nocturne dust]

Idk, powersword cleaving through a bunch of them is pretty hard to compete with

[primal plume]

Is windowed fullscreen gone now?

[nocturne dust]

fullscreen is windowed fullscreen (if you don't change the resolution) as far as I understand the patch notes

[vagrant grove]

just looked at unlucky for some and oh my god why does it even exist??

[strong gulch]

Oh right. Settings were reset. I need to go through them.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1298432898004811786/Rest_in_Peas.gif

[strong gulch]

And it was buffed with the crafting update.

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, I feel like that's why I had a headache the entire time we were playing

Stupid motion blur

[strong gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[nocturne dust]

So you can lose harder

[vagrant grove]

It should at least boost other stuff in addition, the other archetypes have talents that do similar things but buff way more

like leave no one behind for vet
revive speed, movement speed, and stun immunity plus dr

[nocturne dust]

even then, it's questionable, lol

[vagrant grove]

i wouldnt take it

[strong gulch]

Even if the toughness went to yellow, meh.

[vagrant grove]

too situational as well as betting on failure

[flint pawn]

Dump stat for Purgatus is Warp Resist?

[vagrant grove]

it should be something like zealots shield of contempt instead

[nocturne dust]

si

[flint pawn]

[vagrant grove]

when you or an ally in coherency takes damage it does stuff

[strong gulch]

Yes. You can dump quell speed too (some people don't like or don't care about quell speed). With blazeawy, I wouldn't dump damage.

[nocturne dust]

imagine if it just instantly revived the guy who got downed (on a cooldown of course)

[vagrant grove]

that way you aren't just hoping your teammates go down in order to get value

[strong gulch]

I persoanlly always want my quell speed.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, there is a place for 'lose less hard' talents

It just needs to be way more to actually be enough value for that

[flint pawn]

yeah my purgatus is currently damage dump and I'm realizing I just about never have enough peril to make venting shriek do significant burn so 💀 time to fix that

[primal plume]

They changed the coherency icon too

for some reason

[strong gulch]

yip 💯

[flint pawn]

I was wondering about that lol

I was thinking like a mod was changing it

[nocturne dust]

Do not the damage 😭

[flint pawn]

listen.

[nocturne dust]

🤮

[flint pawn]

vs mostly melee

it still cooked

I had like 300 elite kills

and I just about never stabbed them

[nocturne dust]

You can do better if you don't do what you're doing

[flint pawn]

❌

Psychopath purgatus is the way

[vagrant grove]

cooler idea, when an ally goes down they do a peril explosion

[flint pawn]

source: bro trust me

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but yours isn't psycho, it's just bad.

[flint pawn]

I refuse to change it

It was a ton of fun to use lol

[nocturne dust]

Have you even tried the other way?

[flint pawn]

It felt really unusual spraying into armored groups until the first one went from fully alive to 18 kills after a few seconds

[nocturne dust]

Okay, but nothing has changed if you switch away from that

[flint pawn]

what's the "other way"

isn't that just the normal purgatus

what is it now warp nexus blaze away?

flak something perks

[tepid python]

really enjoying the inferno staff

[nocturne dust]

I mean max meta would be nexus and such, but if you want to do damage to crushers that's perfectly fine, the issue is dumping your damage stat

Don't.

[flint pawn]

oh you're going on about that

yeah I'm gonna fix that dw lol

but the crusher burner part stays

[vagrant grove]

but

you

you can just

[nocturne dust]

I mean that's fine because it's funny even if ineffective

[vagrant grove]

you have a dueling sword

[flint pawn]

it is my favorite meme

[flint pawn]

I also have latency issues so my stabs whiff sometimes and also my dodge lagback

[weary crane]

Soulblaze lasts a long time, just use a knife or duel sword and all your Soulblaze can get 100% rendering

[vagrant grove]

oh nevermind then

[flint pawn]

I do use my dueling sword for the armored guys but I have to be really careful with it

like LAYING on the dodge button + agile on my dueling sword careful

[vagrant grove]

even without latency issues thats important

[weary crane]

I can 1 shot crushers with my duel sword on zealot

[flint pawn]

I have mine built to 2 shot at max uncanny

so it's not like I can't use it or smth

however

carapace purgatus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzrIOYKCq_g

this is the way

[vagrant grove]

honestly if you are doing that you should consider changing melee

well also purg psyker so melee doesnt matter actually

[weary crane]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bb9ee95-0b68-43d7-abd0-05c8aae4258e/crit-psyker

[vagrant grove]

id take knife

[weary crane]

Best psyker build

You're welcome

[flint pawn]

I use duelling for the speed and boss damage, that's about it

[vagrant grove]

its opinion based nerd

[flint pawn]

sometimes I stab an armored guy with it

also I could've probably had done so much damage but I had Battle Meditation selected with Venting Shriek... 😭 wasted

[weary crane]

Objectively false

[flint pawn]

can't burn crushers, bad build

L

I know uncanny is a thing

[vagrant grove]

Okay but like

Darktide is a very open ended game

so its the best for your playstyle im sure, but if someone plays super differently from you it wouldnt be the best

[weary crane]

https://youtube.com/shorts/cogRrhUL2lo?si=-1DqtkAq4uD9iew7

You cant see the kill feed but it was insane

[flint pawn]

this is my purg build currently, I've been throwing stuff around

[weary crane]

Ew

No bust over penetration

That sounds sus

[nocturne dust]

ER *and* warp res on siphon

ew