psyker-class

[strong gulch]

Some people haven't gotten it to work tho.

[static needle]

also with shield build?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Inferno doesn't generate tons of peril anyway

and also, ER exists

The only staff that dumps anything other than warp res is voidstrike

because warp res is actually useful if you have Scrier's

If you really wanted to dump something else on Inferno, I would dump quell speed before damage

[latent mauve]

Indeed, and that opinion is no longer true given the new leadership on the community side

[static needle]

I am actually gonna keep and use the one with dumped damage cause its still an incredibly cracked staff type no matter how you slice it

escpecially now that blaze away is a thing for it

[nocturne dust]

If that's true, an official announcement for changed policies would be nice.

[latent mauve]

The only policy that matters is the tos

[nocturne dust]

I mean yes, but it should be fairly simple to slap blaze away on any staff you like.

[latent mauve]

Hedge isn’t an employee anymore (good riddance)

Imagine hedge being active on this discord

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[static needle]

also forgot to mention, i hate using extremely cracked weapons in general (plasma, revolver, colomnus) so i feel like dumping the damage with a blaze away build is only fair

[nocturne dust]

Well then don't use staves

Use gunker

[static needle]

hmmm maybe surge is the least powerful one?

[nocturne dust]

Lmao

It's actually the strongest

at least according to a good number of the more experienced players in this chat

Voidstrike is the weakest staff right now

[fresh reef]

Every staff is severely over tuned in it's own way

[static needle]

unless they significantly buffed it in the mastery update then thats not true. I am a 500 lvl psyker main if that matters

[nocturne dust]

and it's still very strong.

[quasi lynx]

how is inferno staff?

[halcyon gust]

Very solid

[static needle]

lmfao... tried voidstrike surge LMB build?

[halcyon gust]

All the staffs are great

[nocturne dust]

Empyric Resolve

[fresh reef]

Staff nerf please

[nocturne dust]

Electrokinetic is better for lmb builds

[halcyon gust]

How is VS the weakest?

[quasi lynx]

lmao

[nocturne dust]

It has surge now

[quasi lynx]

pew pew

[static needle]

simply because of crit rate?

nahhhhh

[nocturne dust]

Well, yes. Wtf you mean 'nah'

[fresh reef]

Crit rate and crit multiplier

[static needle]

getting the chance to get double RMB is better than it not working at all on Surge staff is what im saying

hence the nah

[runic juniper]

yeah that's why it's specific to m1 lol

[static needle]

it makes it more versatile when theres enemies lined up

[static needle]

i still think voidstrike in general is superior

just cause of the fact that surge actually works on its RMB

[halcyon gust]

Voidstrike is a good jack of all trades staff. Does everything well

[nocturne dust]

What you mean? Inferno deletes everything, trauma knocks down everything, surge just constantly spits out damage. Voidstrike can only outdamage trauma, and even then only if your allies are good enough to keep fire trauma from doing its thing.

[static needle]

maybe not killing spread out targets... Would be a non issue if you have surge blessing tho

[nocturne dust]

then it's not an lmb build

[static needle]

it can be both

[nocturne dust]

[static needle]

you can lmb spam and then RMB when the situation calls for it!

[halcyon gust]

This is where you have teammates can help you deal with those targets while you focus on other targets

[static needle]

then its not jack of all trades

[nocturne dust]

Lmb works on everything except crushers.

[static needle]

you need surge for that

[nocturne dust]

And electrokinetic hurts crushers more than voidstrike.

[static needle]

bulwarks

[runic juniper]

even then it does more than a good amount of melee options to carapace

[nocturne dust]

Electrokinetic still wins.

[static needle]

and groups of ragers can be more easily killed with double ball (surge blessing)

[static needle]

ne

[nocturne dust]

Lol, you can be wrong.

[static needle]

oh definitely

surge is for sure superior in terms of CC ability

[nocturne dust]

I've been mainly talking about damage.

[static needle]

cause it legit can freeze big groups of dangerous melee elites in place

[static needle]

yeah and for that, VS is superior

[nocturne dust]

Empyric Resolve lets electro go wild.

[nocturne dust]

It isn't.

You mentioned the mastery update, well guess what

[static needle]

have you tried mixing LMB and RMB with VS using surge blessing?

[nocturne dust]

Empyric Resolve happened

[nocturne dust]

Yes. Electro beats it.

[runic juniper]

You definitely need either empyric resolve or inner tranq as a peril reduction to use electro m2 as a damage source, but I don't use the m2 to damage

[halcyon gust]

What a world we live in where LMB can be better than Staff's RMB

[potent echo]

Electro has crit bonus stat

[nocturne dust]

😭

[potent echo]

That's like an extra 15% crit chance

[runic juniper]

i won't lie the state m1 is in is stupid lol

[potent echo]

They need to give us mk5 iag type of lmb

[nocturne dust]

staff m1s were a mistake

[potent echo]

Instantly explode

[halcyon gust]

Where the before the only reason you use the M1 on Trauma and Surge is to pick off Far off snipers or suppress enemies to close the gap

[nocturne dust]

The fact staff m1s aren't full auto by default

[halcyon gust]

FullAuto mod goes brrr for PC

[runic juniper]

nah now it just kills everything with warp splitting or deals insane single target with empyric shock

[echo root]

Surge/Elektro bis for lmb builds

[nocturne dust]

also BiS for rmb builds

if you can hit the breakpoints that is

[halcyon gust]

But I'm a simple pysker and I like to play Wii bowling with the VS. Getting those juicy line up kills never gets old with it

[nocturne dust]

same

[runic juniper]

I'ma definitely say it's the worst staff rmb in terms of overall damage

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but it works so well with shriek that you end up with more damage

Perilous Combustion go bbbbrrrrrr

[runic juniper]

No reason to use shriek with warp unbound existing rn though

[halcyon gust]

And then you accidently piss of a DH

[nocturne dust]

Hard disagree

[halcyon gust]

I have done that before....

[nocturne dust]

Shriek is still shriek

and actually shriek still outdamages scrier's staves

[potent echo]

Shriek still shrekts

[halcyon gust]

Shriek is still your best "Fuck that big group of enemies" button

[potent echo]

Infinite cleave always wins in higher difficulty

[halcyon gust]

And annoys Ogryns trying to get 60 Bullrush hits or 25 kills with a nuke

[runic juniper]

Assail with infinite cleave though lol

[nocturne dust]

AoE being good? In a horde game? Wha-

[runic juniper]

just gotta not run into bulwarks or crushers

[potent echo]

It's not infinite tho

Imagine if you got 90 poxwalkers instead of 45

It's over

To shriek it's the same

[nocturne dust]

I will never get over the way assail just plinks out of existence due to armor

[runic juniper]

it would be braindead to just spam assail in every situation though

[halcyon gust]

Don't worry. You''ll regain all 6 stacks of Warp charges and burn a few elites down to instantly reset your Shriek to do it all over again!

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but it could at least like bounce off

even if it was effective against carapace it'd still be weaker than staves

[runic juniper]

I'm still sad you cant get insane inferno damage using empyric shock since those talents dont work for inferno m1

I want a dot that can rival gunlugger ogryn

[nocturne dust]

Just uncap inferno soulblaze and keep the exponential aspect

Do it Fatshark, you cowards

[runic juniper]

give all dots infinite stacks, make the lacerate knife zealots right for once

[nocturne dust]

Honestly my favorite part of heat procs in Warframe is no max stacks

[indigo plank]

What blessings should I aim for on the voidblast mk3?

[nocturne dust]

Nexus and the soulblaze on crit one

[indigo plank]

Thank ye kindly, is there a particular dump stat for staves?

[nocturne dust]

Warp res

[indigo plank]

Oh wait

Yeah nice

[runic juniper]

either warp resist or quell speed

[nocturne dust]

Almost always warp res

Quell speed is highly a preferential thing by some weird peeps

[runic juniper]

people also take warp flurry and rending shockwave for blessings. the soulblaze one is pretty funny for setting everything on fire

[nocturne dust]

Fire Trauma is stronger and does more damage, but rending trauma will work against crushers

[runic juniper]

imagine needing to quell with warp unbound

[nocturne dust]

Imagine taking scrier's on literally any staff except voidstrike

[runic juniper]

just for warp unbound, it's so good

[nocturne dust]

You do you, but it will lower your dps.

Unless you're really bad at using shriek

or you want bubble

I actually would love to see a good 4 psyker team running only bubble

turn ranged only maelstroms into melee only with this one simple trick

[runic juniper]

I just think 10 seconds of infinite peril without needing to go for peril reduction, while also staying at 100% peril for dmg, toughness dmg reduction, and cleave is a lot better than setting stuff on fire and taking away 50% peril for a short time

[nocturne dust]

The issue is how damage distributes

Shriek instantly smacks all enemies in a wide area with a bunch of soulblaze, whereas Scrier's only buffs your staff

you get your staff anyway with shriek

[runic juniper]

I'm being real, scriers only lasts long enough to get like 4 stacks before I max peril out and start the warp unbound timer lol

[nocturne dust]

(Shriek also goes through walls)

[runic juniper]

I'd totally consider going for peril reduction on it too if warp siphon wasn't so far down

[nocturne dust]

Which peril reduction you mean?

[runic juniper]

both empyric resolve and the warp siphon stacks

[nocturne dust]

I mean I wouldn't recommend warp siphon peril reduction with ER

ER is already significant enough

[echo root]

Even with electro?

[runic juniper]

with electro yeah

[echo root]

I feel like surge/electro you get peril so fast

[nocturne dust]

Electro just doesn't have the points

Too many good things to grab

I could see an argument for it with shriek, but it's definitely a preference thing and doesn't do much because of shriek constantly removing warp stacks

Electro going Scrier's is just too point-strapped.

[echo root]

Scrier with staff in general feels icky

[runic juniper]

after getting used to abusing m1, it just feels like another infinite ammo recon las gun

that sometimes 3 shots maulers

[nocturne dust]

It's cool with voidstrike, but otherwise yeh

Shriek just covers staff flaws so well it's unfair, lol

[delicate dove]

Little story

backfilled into a game going badly with a smite psyker

He said the guy they were playing with was so triggered he was using smite that he flamed him, intentionally agro'd the daemonhost then immediately disconnected

lmao. Bit of an overreaction #StopSmiteHate ⚡⚡

[runic juniper]

nah smykers are literally tzeench and should be executed

[nocturne dust]

I dislike smitekers as much as I dislike gunkers. And I think gunkers should be tried for heresy.

[runic juniper]

it's not a gun build if im just using a staff OK

[delicate dove]

Meh, PVE game, play how you want for fun, easy or hard. The guy could've left in the lobby after he saw he was using smite if it meant so much to him

[runic juniper]

it might have the exact same talents but its different i swear

[nocturne dust]

I mean, in seriousness, yes play how you want

unless you use a gun on the space wizard class

[delicate dove]

Gunker mains are vets in disguise

It's kinda fun but it's not my vibe

[runic juniper]

I mean it's like playing vet with movement speed talents and without the ammo economy

and assail of course

so more like a knife zealot that just uses ranged instead

[slate oasis]

I don't run into smykers enough to be annoyed by it. some people absolutely lose their minds over it

[upper galleon]

witches, do any of you have the smite AOE view

[zinc sphinx]

wot's a grunkah?

[runic juniper]

smite has range?

I thought that shit will just chain zap all the way to the finale if you let it

[slate oasis]

gunker = gun psyker

[runic juniper]

it's like if you called a gunlugger a glugger

[zinc sphinx]

tanks fer clarifyin

[upper galleon]

there is an image someone posted here before that is a birds eye view of smite in psykanium

and how far it spreads (with and without talent)

[delicate dove]

With and without what talent? Lightning storm?

[upper galleon]

yes

[delicate dove]

I was looking for what lightning storm does exactly too, didn't find much other than anecdotes of people saying they hardly noticed a difference at all, which has more or less been my experience too

[upper galleon]

cause it's ridic, when you look at it

[upper galleon]

it's only really good on aurics and maels tbh

only difficulties with the density to matter

[delicate dove]

Does it literally just add 1 target?

[upper galleon]

but it's an area it will chain to, not a target cap like it implies

nope

[delicate dove]

Hm

[upper galleon]

it adds like, a good 20% more max spread range

[thorn cedar]

whenever it would jump, it jumps to one more target. its a pretty gigantic efficiency boost

[delicate dove]

Thanks for your wonderfully detailed in-game explanations fat shark, lol

I swear literally every talent and perk should have an optional drop down menu that describes what the f*ck it does and does not do completely

I hate the ambiguity and browsing forums for these answers

[buoyant maple]

not infinite, it only goes up to 10

[runic juniper]

I know i'm just overstating it

[delicate dove]

10 enemies hit?

[buoyant maple]

if they're not carapace, yes

[delicate dove]

wowee

[buoyant maple]

if carapace, ends cleave on hitting carapace

[unique mist]

TIL you can use duelling sword (and some other melees i'm sure) to attack ogryns weakspot from behind

[unique mist]

ah, anything with good cleave/pen

revolver does it

very useful

[delicate dove]

This is Sting, you've seen it before, haven't you, HERETICS

[twin pond]

Where in TOS does it say no macros?

[indigo plank]

playing maelstrom for XP to level new psyker
gloriana
Fuck me

[hollow jolt]

Yeah lvl 1 psyker doesn't do well there UwU

[ripe obsidian]

Question: does Voidstrike blast radius only affect the explosion at the end?

[nocturne dust]

yes

Yes it's a dump

[ripe obsidian]

I know. I use it as a dump instead of warp res

I just wanted to make sure I was not being foolish

[nocturne dust]

[ripe obsidian]

I am also just feeling generally demoralized after losing like 5 train missions and 3 clandestine gloria missions in a row

[hollow jolt]

I don't recall Clandestine having anything particularly nasty

[ripe obsidian]

I haven't managed to get past the first event today

[hollow jolt]

Is it just the beginning cliffsides of doom?

Ah yeah that'll do it

[nocturne dust]

Noobs can really screw up that power area

[ripe obsidian]

Example:

[nocturne dust]

Make it reset over and over

[ripe obsidian]

(these people did not join late)

[twin pond]

Him not working for FS anymore doesn’t make anything he said no longer true

[hollow jolt]

I didn't even know it reset lol

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, lol.

[ripe obsidian]

People just split up in the power area and fail to prioritize targets

So they get shredded by elites and specials

[hollow jolt]

"3 crate pickups" "34k ranged damage"

Amazing

[ripe obsidian]

I had more melee kills than the Zealot.

[nocturne dust]

34k ranged ain't bad if the match ends early enough

lol

Just barrel the team at the start

[ripe obsidian]

12 minutes

[hollow jolt]

It is if you pick up 3 charges from an ammo crate

[nocturne dust]

oofies

[ripe obsidian]

And here's a train mission that was 9 minutes:

[nocturne dust]

Yeah train is awful in pubs

I still dislike train most of all missions

[hollow jolt]

Vet brought helbore to train mission

Bold

[ripe obsidian]

It's frustrating to lose so much when it's rarely my fault

[nocturne dust]

It's your fault, you didn't carry hard enough

[ripe obsidian]

:<

I have weak noodle arms

[sterile saffron]

I absolutely love playing psyker

[nocturne dust]

It is what it is. You could try getting a proper team together in this Discord if you're that frustrated.

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah. But people are scary

[placid crypt]

Is warp unbound still bugged? I just blew up with voidstrike while sciers was active

[nocturne dust]

There is a short interval between the end of SG and the start of Warp Unbound where you can explode, yes

[placid crypt]

that's frustrating

[hollow jolt]

Man what kind of jank shit is going on with warp unbound to be so weird lol

[proven bolt]

i have a question for the lightning psykers here

why do some people sit and electrocute the same one enemy for 30 seconds instead of just hitting him and moving on

[hollow jolt]

Because funny c:

[proven bolt]

it is pretty funny

[strong gulch]

good question 🥲

[delicate dove]

For the sadistic satisfaction

[strong gulch]

Though to be fair there is a DPS build for smite that takes several seconds to kill a single rager, but it can also kill 30 ragers in that same time.

But a lot of people are not running that build and are being "support".

[hollow jolt]

I didn't bring lightning to NOT use it

[nocturne dust]

I bring BB to not use it

I'd bring lightning to not use it if charged strike was worth literally anything

[south gull]

I keep forgetting how much better of a player I am with psyker

brain burst trauma staff eating good still

[fresh reef]

is warp surge on electro staff still bugged?

[split lance]

It was bugged?

[upper galleon]

it doesn't work with rmb

[potent echo]

That's not a bug

But also if you say it enough the devs will backpedal

[nocturne dust]

Submit bug tickets about it

[potent echo]

Put it in the book of grudges like that ultimate cringelord from the forums

[nocturne dust]

Dwarves are indeed cringelords

[potent echo]

🖐️ 🪴

[nocturne dust]

🍃 ❤️

Only real Dwarves will understand

[dusk void]

I really can't complete a mission without clutching and FatShark loving to freeze my screen and end up dying due to server errors smh

[upper galleon]

amazing

[nocturne dust]

People complain about the game being too easy but then they die to the final boss, lag. Smh my head.

[dusk void]

I wish there was a way to remedy this issue

[nocturne dust]

There is. Stop playing the game.

[dusk void]

Can't. I have an addiction to this game

[nocturne dust]

Or, y'know, get Fatshark to fix the problem, but...

[dusk void]

FatShark can't do shit but get paid

[remote shadow]

There's no way this is just a bug, right?

It looks so pretty in motion

[dusk void]

Pretty

[nocturne dust]

Ah, the sparkly bug

It is indeed bug

no idea how it happens tho, lmao

Fatshark and ghosts in the machine, name a more iconic duo. I'll wait.

[brazen oriole]

Uh, they are called machine spirits 🤓

[remote shadow]

Me and your mom ayyyyyy

[nocturne dust]

Jokes on you, you're now a necrophiliac.

[clear heath]

Got a surge surge psyker using a quell cancel macro in my game earlier

kinda cringe

[idle scroll]

can smite crit?

[slender coyote]

idk

probably not

[wooden flare]

Still not the worst thing in 40k

[strong gulch]

no

[idle scroll]

does assail count as weakspot hits?

[strong gulch]

If it hits the weakspot yes. Sometimes it can hit bodies.

[ripe obsidian]

I think... I think this is the game to end the night on. Holy moly.

[plucky flax]

You use bb with void?

[ripe obsidian]

No

I use smite

I think it reverses the blitz and ability things

Smite/CD/Shriek/DD

[plucky flax]

Ah I have it set up as the skill tree. So blitz aura ability keystone

[ripe obsidian]

I will look at the settings to see if I can fix that

Doesn't seem like it

[plucky flax]

Hrm I think it's loadout monitor?

[ripe obsidian]

Aye

Oh, derp.

It's the next block up.

[strong gulch]

You can change that!? I need to change mine now!!

[ripe obsidian]

Apparently so. It's under "Feats" in Loadout Monitor

[plucky flax]

Yeah it makes more sense for me to have talents go down a tree

Don't know why the mod is not default to that

[ripe obsidian]

I agree. Not sure--what you said

[strong gulch]

OMG THANK YOU

It always drove me up a wall.

Mentally working out what was what...

[ripe obsidian]

AgentChaos, hero of the people

[strong gulch]

This is such a small thing but I could actually cry over this.

[mystic pike]

the lightening staff is it good for killing elites and specials

[ripe obsidian]

It is good for killing everything

[mystic pike]

illisi is it good for CC?

[plucky flax]

It's a staff

[ripe obsidian]

I like Illisi for killing weak enemies

[plucky flax]

Cc? It's a horde clear melee

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, what they said

[plucky flax]

Not super good against mauler and pretty poor against ogryns

[ripe obsidian]

With uncanny strike you can kill maulers in like... 12 unpowered hits

It is not ideal

Sorry, 13. Just tried

[plucky flax]

I tried uncanny slaughterer illisi in melee scab only. Wasn't very fun try it if you're more cracked than me

(I died)

[ripe obsidian]

I didn't realize that melee scab only was all maulers and crushers. I tried it yesterday and had a Bad Time

At least I had my DS4, so I had that going for me. But purg was not the way

[wind spruce]

All you need is DS

[ripe obsidian]

And a team.

[wind spruce]

Poke poke poke

[ripe obsidian]

The 4th guy quit, so not on the scoreboard

[plucky flax]

You want trauma there it's the best build for that mode by far

[ripe obsidian]

I did not win.

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma

[mystic pike]

good to know but i honestly am just using the force sword for its deflector blessing

[plucky flax]

But it makes it boring for other players

So I try not to play psyker in the funny mode

[ripe obsidian]

I have one. Just don't have a build for it atm

[plucky flax]

I use deflector a lot too on both deimos and illisi. Very cool blessings

Wish they combine it with kd

[ripe obsidian]

Would be nice

Deflector would save me from the occasional "Three gunners got a bead on you, stunlock time" that I encounter now and again

[mystic pike]

currently what i'm working with

[plucky flax]

Interesting build

[mystic pike]

gonna need some help here

with this build

not much of a psyker

hence why i'm here

[plucky flax]

If you want to use ep assail then take both upgrade nodes

[ripe obsidian]

This is what I have for surge/electro staff. Probably not optimal.

[plucky flax]

Also tru aim is really good with assail

[mystic pike]

just want something for crowd clearing

[plucky flax]

You can go creeping flames for that too unless you really want to play bubble

Then sticks with assails

[ripe obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/creepy-paper-nandor-crepe-paper-gif-14082230

This is what I think whenever I read "creeping flames"

[mystic pike]

is ep even that good?

[ripe obsidian]

For smite and BB, sure. Not sure about assail

[plucky flax]

It's good but dd is better now

[upper galleon]

it's alright on assail, better horde clear and more bees but DD gives way more damage when stacked up

[plucky flax]

Although you use surge staff so it only benefits from crit damage

Unless you are playing left click meme

I adjusted your tree taking your preferred blitz aura ability and key

1 point to spend either quietude or just extra toughness

[mystic pike]

was gonna use someone's suggestion and take distrupt destiny

[plucky flax]

Yeah I would suggest that too if you are going to assail spam

[mystic pike]

which aura should i use?

[plucky flax]

If you're using bubble then crit chance imo. For yourself. Cdr aura would help the team much more though dunno how you'd value your teammates

[mystic pike]

i generallly do value the team....

mostly

[ripe obsidian]

Valuing your team is a path to madness

[plucky flax]

Then team would appreciate having shorter cd especially vet for more p shout spam

[mystic pike]

i'm playing a psyker thats madness in of itself

[ripe obsidian]

I felt that way, too. Then the voices convinced me I was wrong

Now I play mostly psyker. Veteran after than, then Zealot. And rarely Ogryn.

[mystic pike]

here the end result

still gotta level up my tickle fingers staff but eh

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/sacrifice-shrek-gif-22057024

[plucky flax]

Looks good. If you struggle to keep dd stacks see if the longer duration is better for you

[nocturne dust]

Hhhhmmmm? DD with shorter duration? Ew

[delicate walrus]

there a bug with disrupt destiny atm? ive got 10sec and +2 stacks on weakspot kill but neither seem appear ingame. Only ever get 1 stack even when even if i get multiple weakspot kills on targeted enemies back to back. presumably just a display bug on the icon ingame?

[ripe obsidian]

Question: since Zealot's Holy Relic prevents allies from being reduced below 1 HP, does it counter perils of the warp explosions? In VT2, Warrior Priest Saltz could save Sienna from blowing up.

[ripe obsidian]

Yes, it's bugged. It's not one stack in the buff bar, it's the bonus movement speed you get for a DD kill

I believe it's just a visual bug

[delicate walrus]

ahhh ok cool

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

[ripe obsidian]

It could be neat. Maybe not super useful, but a neat interaction

[nocturne dust]

My gut guess would be no, but definitely needs testing.

[ripe obsidian]

I guess it depends on how things are coded.

I didn't realize it worked in VT2 until I accidentally saved a Sienna from blowing herself up

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Saltie's ability is pretty different from book

[ripe obsidian]

It is true

But it prevents allies from being reduced below 1 hp. So maybe! I'll try to recruit my friend tomorrow to help me test

[mystic pike]

distrupt destiny stacks dont seem to be appearing

[nocturne dust]

known visual bug

they still exist, you just don't get to see them properly

[ripe obsidian]

Just keep popping heads

[mystic pike]

....i cant do without empyric resolve

that talent is a massive crutch

[ripe obsidian]

It's pretty good.

[plucky flax]

Use it.

It's good for you.

[brazen bramble]

I DONT CARE WHO THEY SEND IM NOT SWAPPING OFF WARP SYPHON

[radiant frigate]

i don't care who they send I'm not putting on ER

[nocturne dust]

less a crutch and more the best talent in the whole tree rn

[nocturne dust]

It's okay, we all make mistakes

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-8958395

[radiant frigate]

sell me on it

why should i pick it

[nocturne dust]

Quelling is a dps loss

[slender coyote]

🫃 this is why

[nocturne dust]

[slender coyote]

i just ran 2000 miles

[nocturne dust]

Less quell good, more time to channel the warp

[radiant frigate]

if I'm going to play a build that picks up warp siphon I'm going to have shriek to do my quelling for me

[slender coyote]

honestly

real

[nocturne dust]

I've yet to see a shriek build that can never quell, barring purgatus.

[radiant frigate]

ER would also make it harder to generate peril when i need it to shriek

[nocturne dust]

Counterpoint: you don't need to overquell

[plucky flax]

🗿

[nocturne dust]

and me, someone who does drop to 0% peril every time I quell and quells way too much, still uses ER and has plenty of peril for shrieking.

Excluding purgatus, again, lol

also it means you can take less peril management elsewhere if you were doing that

Battle Meditation? Stupid. Transfer Peril? Dumb.

It also shifts when you quell, which is important, giving you more time to dish out damage in the thick of the fight before having to quell. Even if you had to quell the same amount, being able to quell later helps with dealing with big packs (and you don't have to quell the same amount )

[radiant frigate]

battle meditation? with shriek? outside of eepy smite?

[nocturne dust]

I never said it was a wise decision, and considering I'm arguing against it...

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-stephen-a-smith-gif-13112895

Also, taking ER and shriek on purg literally lets me ignore quelling entirely

Anyway, the DPS difference between ER and no ER is substantial. ER clearly wins in every (staff) case. Not sure about gunker.

But gunker is a mutant and should be executed on sight.

The only time I've struggled to build peril for shriek is with purg, and even then it's mainly because I can't stop quelling. It's hardwired into my skull.

[plucky flax]

Huh I don't use er with burga

[nocturne dust]

I do and it's... well purg generates plenty of toughness and more flame good

[plucky flax]

I wish I can just not take the rending or er when playing burga

Free up my points

[upper sun]

just go EP

blaze away is enough damage

[nocturne dust]

I like ER so I have no problem with it.

[nocturne dust]

no

[plucky flax]

Way less damage than warp charges creeping flames spam

[nocturne dust]

more fire more good

[nocturne dust]

I mean, one could say the same for bubble.

[plucky flax]

I played bubble once.

For the penance.

Or maybe basket support psyker meme

[carmine siren]

are there psyker cosmetics that dont have the toilet seat

[nocturne dust]

At the end of the day, I think shriek and purg together is mostly unhelpful damage, as in the damage kills things, yes, but most things that get hurt probably would've been killed anyway.

because of the way that shriek and purg be

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

infinite cleave suckas

[plucky flax]

I am getting recognised more in game

Legend of the unsanctioned

It's growing

[nocturne dust]

Time to visit the crazy doctor guy

[plucky flax]

Changing name to SanctionedPsyker

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/no-names-hackers-gif-6059552

[plucky flax]

[nocturne dust]

Wait, that's... not heresy?

[upper sun]

🫡

how was the soulbinding?

did they have to crank up the machine 11 just to get it to do something to you?

[plucky flax]

No I escaped.

Swam through the warp and now I'm back.

Still Unsanctioned.

[upper sun]

throw me to the warp daemons

nah i cant finish it

[cold geode]

So funny, I see people with changed names and faces, but the same steam ID.

[upper sun]

time to share my steam library with ults

and troll the shit out of games

[lyric prism]

just me or is disrupt destiny just not marking anything sometimes?

[plucky flax]

Might just be behind walls

[lyric prism]

yes but that should be visibly marked no?

[nocturne dust]

Visible through walls, yes

[lyric prism]

also, what are the best perks for the surge staff?

cause i feel like the psyker guide is dated

[nocturne dust]

flak/maniac is the general go-to.

[lyric prism]

think is i am going right tree

so big crits

so idk if crit damage would be wroth it

[nocturne dust]

well that's weird unless you're going for lmb spam.

[nocturne dust]

it never is

[lyric prism]

gotcha

[nocturne dust]

Crit damage is bad, sadly

[lyric prism]

its weird cause you would think it would be good for those high crit weapons

[radiant frigate]

yes but what about melee

[plucky flax]

It's good but surge right click doesn't hit head and left click is hard to aim at head

[radiant frigate]

transfer peril sg surge surge

let there be little bolts that go pew pew in heretic faces

[plucky flax]

That's certainly a build.

I tried not transfer peril but dd gazer surge surge

The damage is really good but I keep exploding even with warp unbound

[radiant frigate]

transfer peril is funny because with quietude and mettle you can facetank a spawn just by repeatedly shooting it in the face with little pew pews

good? probably not
funny? absolutely

[plucky flax]

I also don't play surge surge with empiric shock

[radiant frigate]

have to say i really hate the new "staff talents"

very smelly and overall unsanitary

[plucky flax]

It's not effective enough to cost you 2 points

Maybe if it was 1

[nocturne dust]

Meleeker is just Gunker in disguise

[mystic pike]

i just noticed something those shards make a surprisingly good main weapon lol

[plucky flax]

You saw the light

[nocturne dust]

until they hit armor 😔

[mystic pike]

true sadly i've got nothing more armor when it comes to this build

[plucky flax]

Aren't you using surge?

Right click on crushers and unyielding

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/surge-lifes-a-scream-gif-3554051

This is the only surge I know

[upper sun]

surge good

[plucky flax]

Surge on deez

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-homer-dance-gif-23875943

[mystic pike]

i probs could use my purg staff on this build

[upper sun]

i support KX8 fuck hadron

[mystic pike]

ok i gotta ask brainburst does that proc cruel fortune?

@plucky flax

[plucky flax]

What the hell is cruel fortune?

[mystic pike]

distrupt destiny

[plucky flax]

It counts as a headshot so I think so.

But BB with DD?!

That's some interesting build.

[mystic pike]

not sure if thats good or bad

[plucky flax]

I don't think they syrnergy.

[upper sun]

ok whats the WS purge build? do we go rending or peril reduction?

[mystic pike]

so this might sound really far out their but humor me for a minute

[plucky flax]

Did discord change the notification sound?

It's so goofy now. 😄

[mystic pike]

the bonus damage goes up to 15% correct?

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[mystic pike]

and combo that damage with purg staff right with the amount of crits chances it puts out

you see my logic there?

it sounds abit strange yes but may work

[novel talon]

Can you get martyrs skulls at any difficulty?

[late sapphire]

Yes but the plasteel reward scales with difficulty

Same with idols

[novel talon]

ty

[plucky flax]

I don't see it since you're not hitting weakspot. You lose out on a big portion of what makes DD good.

But try it and if it works for you great.

[late sapphire]

bb hits weakspot though no?

Think about it

[plucky flax]

Yes.

[late sapphire]

Obviously it's better to have both bonuses but one or the other isn't terrible

[plucky flax]

Depend on how much you're using bb.

I use it maybe twice a map. Unless I'm playing ep bb monsters maelstrom.

[late sapphire]

monster maelstrom 😢

[stuck sinew]

Woe, knife/revolver zealots be upon ye

[upper sun]

we should do a cancermaxx maelstrom run

where we actively try to be as toxic as possible in game

i can finally do tag+lmb peegun vet

[safe merlin]

Hey guys what indicates a critical hit?

Is it the Yellow numbers only or the brownish/orange ones too?

[stuck sinew]

I think yellow is crit and double line is weakspot

Idk what brown/orange is, you sure it's not just yellow blending with the background or something?

[late sapphire]

yellow is crit, red is kill, double lines are weakspot

You might be partially color blind

[safe merlin]

I think Yellow is weakspot hit

[late sapphire]

It used to be like that but it isn't anymore

Just go to the psykhanium and test it out

[wind spruce]

In the psykhanium right now it's yellow crit brown weakspot

[safe merlin]

Im getting brown with the inferno force staff...

[spice veldt]

darktide's psykhanium now uses yellow numbers for weakspot, and orange numbers for crit
if you have the healthbar mod, then it uses the old convention of yellow numbers = crit and orange numbers = weakspot

[wind spruce]

Apologies I literally typed the opposite of what I meant because it's so goddamn confusing that they changed it

There's confusion because the health bar mod wasn't swapped

[late sapphire]

Wait do you have the hit indicator on the crosshair off or something silly like that

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/0g42ZG

Weakspot yellow

[late sapphire]

On the default bar it's yellow for weakspot and brown for crit and vice versa on healthbar mod

But looking at the numbers to tell if an attack crit is wacky i think

[mystic pike]

so just had a game with this build and its very noticeable

[wind spruce]

Looking at the hit indicator is weird af

Who does that

[mystic pike]

so just used the build its very noticeable

[late sapphire]

Well with well designed weapons you can hear the crits

But that's besides the point

[plucky flax]

Based. Keep going

[wind spruce]

You're right, it is

[mystic pike]

the damage is allot more consistent

[late sphinx]

Just played a mission with a Psyker that forgot he had bubble shield for second half of the mission on smelter complex auric damnation, not one use.

Its not that much of a "If I use it I wont have it ever again" is it?

Like you can afford to use it pretty liberally

Ogryn pincushion here

[safe merlin]

Is it worth the crit chance to use inferno staff and scriers gaze?

[wind spruce]

Good practice for you not having it since bubble is shit and only bad psykers run it

[mystic pike]

oi i use bubble for team support

[late sphinx]

I dont need practice without it, if hes got it I want to use it

its toughness regen as well as gunner shield

its valubale

i dont care about omg meta smite build

[wind spruce]

You bad psyker then

[wind spruce]

Who said anything about smite lmfao

Bubble is garbo

[late sphinx]

imagine if i joined your game with only wound curios equipped on ogryn

how insulted would you feel

[wind spruce]

Movement is winning

Bubble is antithetical to this

[limber pine]

what should I use for a CC build?

[safe merlin]

Does channeled force work with Inferno Staff's primary fire?

[wind spruce]

Trauma staff

(Voidblast)

[mystic pike]

Guess I’m a bad psyker than for wanting to keep my teammates alive

Bubble provides cover and a temporary safe haven

[wind spruce]

Yes, correct

[upper sun]

yes

[late sphinx]

they sound like leavers when the game isnt going so hot azure

you keep doing you

[upper sun]

death is the best CC

[wind spruce]

It's OK to be bad psykers, little ones. You will see the light eventually.

[upper sun]

were not canadian here if you kill your enemies they win ahh statements

[wind spruce]

Bro your clown reactions are the real clownery, this really isn't that serious

[mystic pike]

https://tenor.com/view/musediet-spongebob-clown-gif-16546910490839978655

[wind spruce]

Oh god

[mystic pike]

Thanks bro that’s the plan

[wind spruce]

Get it off the screen

Bump

Bump

[upper sun]

BUMP

[wind spruce]

Love you clady

[mystic pike]

I’m not the one who being toxic

At least

[wind spruce]

Homie no one being toxic

[upper sun]

know whats the cure to being toxic?

killing

[wind spruce]

Bubble is what's toxic

[upper sun]

kill the plague bearers

kill the pox walkers

[wind spruce]

Bring death to thine enemies

[upper sun]

KILL FOR THE LIVING

[mystic pike]

Anyways off to the ogryn chat away from that probably early leaver to get away from this stupidity

[upper sun]

smh why does no one finish the best cry

[wind spruce]

Ah yiiis u got me not liking noob trap abilities = early leaver

Come back when you realise that support isn't a role in Darktide

[upper sun]

going from supporting to tonking 😭

[wind spruce]

I don't know things

[upper sun]

😭

[wind spruce]

Sowwy

[upper sun]

kill for the living, kill for the dead

[wind spruce]

KILL FOR THE DEAD

[upper sun]

luna wolves battle cry before they fell to chaos

#always a luna wolf never a son of horus

[wind spruce]

Hmm maybe I read some 40k next

I have the time atm

[upper sun]

yes u should

listen to audi books

[plucky flax]

Read some inquisitor book.

Gregor Eisenhorn and Gidean Ravanor.

[upper sun]

im at fulgrim in the horus heresy

it fucking sucks

everyone there is nasty

[plucky flax]

Don't worship slaneesh.

[upper sun]

i hate every fucking person in that book

cold showers NOW

[wind spruce]

I've listened to soul Hunter and first and only

But I want to read one

[safe merlin]

What blessings are good for the voidblast Floor circle staff?

[upper sun]

horus heresy up until fulgrim are fucking peak

[upper sun]

blazing spirit nexus flak crit

[wind spruce]

Oook

[plucky flax]

I am too lazy to read tho so I am using audiobook. I finished Eisenhorn, just reading the short stories Magos now.

Then I'll go to Ravanor.

They are all written by the guy who wrote this game.

[limber pine]

for a voidblast build shield or venting shriek

[zinc phoenix]

Issue with support on psyker is that you’re supporting people who often have iffy dps and unlike vet support build (shout + given other players some of the toughness you gain + toughness on kill buffs) cannot force feed them toughness constantly to compensate, only bubble which does a lot for toughness regen but only if they are smart enough to go into it when low which many are not. The gunner resist is incidental because bubble collapses when shot pretty quickly.

To get it you have to give up on either of two incredibly high dps tools: SG or shriek on class that has a comically high DPS ceiling.

It tends to be better to play support on classes like ogryn (loyal protector + taunt + extra damage on taunt talent) or vet which can reduce incoming damage whether or not the team is dumb while maintaining solid damage while psyker should generally support the team by killing as much as possible with skills other than bubble.

Which isn’t to say bubble is bad. On a good team it can be pretty handy and against flamer spam it’s nice. But even in those circumstances SG or shriek (with every possible source of cooldown reduction) would probably be better.

[fossil lagoon]

can any1 help me do malleus monstronum ?

[cold geode]

Dan Abnett.

[potent echo]

I love when supportkers support me

[upper sun]

gonna mcfukkin kms

[upper sun]

Yes

invite me

[cold geode]

Then bequin after that.

[plucky flax]

Yeah I have all the audibooks downloaded.

[cold geode]

Same. Right now I'm 45 books into the Hersey.

[fossil lagoon]

thanks king

[upper sun]

no worries

u should have killed urself after

i got 1700 dockets

[radiant frigate]

a<yfjcgASKVCGXKL

[plucky flax]

This is why I don't do 30k.

Too many books.

[warm bolt]

I have no idea wtf i'm doing as a Gunker, also this was just an easy test QP damnation and ended up being low intensity

[plucky flax]

You spam assails it's good.

Gunker build btw.

[warm bolt]

Oh....assail?

Uhhh

oops

😅

i'll try assail

[upper sun]

theyre great

listen to Horus heresy NOW

[plucky flax]

It's like 10000 books.

[upper sun]

no

just ~70

ill start u off

[plucky flax]

Master of mankind isn't it?

[upper sun]

I WAS THERE THE DAY HORUS SLEW THE EMPEROR....

no horus rising

[plucky flax]

I am a simp so my fav primarch is sanguinius.

#bringhimback

[upper sun]

https://ibb.co/5Mr7rDV

[upper sun]

sangui was so based.... 😭

[plucky flax]

He should had been the warmaster.

[upper sun]

so tru

he was the strongest...

horus had to get blessed 172345 different times by chaos just to beat him

[radiant frigate]

siblings.. how do i keep playing psyker

[upper sun]

scab melee trauma...

ep purge is ok but not too broken

you can try assail surge

[sturdy geode]

Going to try to make a Psyker focusing onthe Double Barrel Shotgun and Assail. Any tips would be appreciated.

[upper sun]

😅 we'll pray for you

[plucky flax]

Double barrel all over them.

[zinc phoenix]

Scriers gaze, dd and don’t take ER. Speed boost and sprint efficiency are surprisingly useful with what is, essentially, a melee build. Surety of arms is less useful than you’d think because it does nothing at high peril and you’ll either be at high peril or not using the shotty (because you aren’t in SG) most of the time

There’s also a trait that you can use to have the shotgun become a peril reducing monster when firing into hordes which makes maintaining SG very nice

It’s worth investing a point into upgrading assail for faster gunner mob clearing and more weaving opportunities

I liked ds2 over ds4 for this build because I found I was meleeing a lot and because my crusher response tended to be SG + shoot the shotty into the crusher’s face at point blank for mega crit damage but you can also go ds4 or deimos if you feel you need anti armor more

Chainsword or Rashad can also be pretty nice

[sturdy geode]

Very helpful, cheers

[radiant frigate]

does the shotgun actually do carapace damage

[flat nexus]

nop but i feel like pysker with scrier just does a ton of dmg that it will kill it ||vet sg pov||

[zinc phoenix]

With headshot + sg it do ok

[hybrid lark]

Anyone got a good Support Psyker build? o:

[radiant frigate]

no

[plucky flax]

....Support psyker?

Wot's that?

Based smite bubble?

[mossy oyster]

take bubble, kill things

boom you are support

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-just-so-bad-it's-so-bad-ew-panda-it's-just-so-bad-gif-12756154516164019614

[hybrid lark]

I just like being a team player :C

[plucky flax]

You can also be a team player by killing stuff.

Psyker kills the most by far.

[hybrid lark]

so you mean to say, if I do a lot of heckin murder, I AM a support? O:

[plucky flax]

If you want to 'support' I'd go for something like basket and bubble.

Just burga and chill.

[hybrid lark]

I will do lots of murder to help the team then :D

[radiant frigate]

the best support is murder (dead enemies cannot hurt teammates) (unless it is bonbon and blasts you off a cliff) (fuck you bonbon i hope you die forever)

[mossy oyster]

(every zealot will hate you, and every normal player will love you)

he forgets to tell you this

[late sapphire]

To be a team player, pay attention to your team...

[radiant frigate]

why will zealots hate you

[mossy oyster]

hmm holding M1 with a flamethrower and killing everything barring a crusher/monstro

[late sapphire]

The main thing is that when the veteran splits off and gets cornered by a mob, you notice and go over to blow em to bits

and so on

[analog agate]

Support means you keep your friends alive and hold the enemies still with smite for them to kill. It emotionally will satisfy your teammates to get more kills, all the while staying alive longer

[mossy oyster]

why would a zealot be displeased with a bubble burga soyker

I wonder

[hybrid lark]

Instructions unclear, team is on fire.

[mossy oyster]

[strong gulch]

Outside of bubble and strategic smite use, psyker doesn't have much in the way of support. Not doing damage doesn't help the team.

[plucky flax]

This is ultra based.

[radiant frigate]

why would "normal players" be pleased then

[late sapphire]

Ultra cringe

[plucky flax]

[radiant frigate]

the forbidden basket..

[mossy oyster]

if you cant answer that yourself dont know what to say

some people like the game turning off

[willow hazel]

Psy aura is a lot of support

[late sapphire]

Really, being a teamplayer is more about well playing well as a team and not about the build

[willow hazel]

obv dependent on killing stuff though

[strong gulch]

A lot of people trying to "support" will hold down un-upgraded smite in a bubble and hold their team and the enemies in a bad position.

[plucky flax]

EP bb to kill specials.

Bubble to be cosy.

Burga to keep your teammates warm and kill close range heretics.

[late sapphire]

Killing specials with ep 😢

[strong gulch]

That's a given but also true. That is an always pick assume it's chosen unless assail is used.

[plucky flax]

Basket life.

(You can never run out of toughness)

[late sapphire]

Bring unlucky for some

#1 team playing node

[strong gulch]

love how that was buffed

[radiant frigate]

"i'm zapping them, go get 'em tigers"

[analog agate]

Pretty bad honestly. Basket tree means you are killing to get that toughness back. What you should be doing is more support for your teammates by not enabling them to kill more

So less basket up top

[plucky flax]

Well let's just play non ep smite bubble and call it a day.

[radiant frigate]

basket deniers seethe at how comfortable basket truthers are

[analog agate]

Exactly

[plucky flax]

After the game some guy will make a post on reddit.

"SMYKER IS RUINING MY AURIC PUB"

BUT I WAS SUPPORTING

[late sapphire]

ER smite

[radiant frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1223963124722307113/E4UWiJMXoAAL6of.jpg?ex=6714eefd&is=67139d7d&hm=96ecb87af70fb9196de44607b9207d3f277a8ffd89cdabdeee622130228fdc1a&=&format=webp

[mossy oyster]

viper was insane

[zinc phoenix]

I’m sorry but this is missing almost all of the good psyker stuff 😢

[fossil lagoon]

Is this bait / a troll ?

[radiant frigate]

no it's epic

[plucky flax]

It's best support build.

Play it.

[zinc phoenix]

It has to be because no one could accidentally make something that bad 😂

[radiant frigate]

is it possible to make a psyker build without an ult

huh

so it is

[strong gulch]

Un-upgraded shriek is base.

[radiant frigate]

this i know

[strong gulch]

Like you still have it without choosing an ult.

[radiant frigate]

just wondered if it was possible to not have an upgrade and spend all points

[strong gulch]

gotcha

[radiant frigate]

this looks mighty terrifying to play

blaze trauma probably still would do well

[ripe obsidian]

Be brave. Be bold.

[wind jay]

Be based.

[analog agate]

Be Best

[radiant frigate]

take the path that the weak ones demonize

[sturdy geode]

Does the Deflector Blessing (block ranged attacks, 30% reduced block cost) work while reviving with the force sword equipped?

[radiant frigate]

i believeth nay

[sturdy geode]

Shame, that would have made it useful

[radiant frigate]

or terrifying

see someone downed within clear view of multiple gunners? res them while blocking ranged shots and give them a surprise when they get up

[sturdy geode]

That was my hope

[plucky flax]

This is cheating. YOu can't just not take ability and have it for free.

[austere warren]

What u do for bistol? @plucky flax

[radiant frigate]

the real boneless shriek

[plucky flax]

I play with assails and creeping flames DD

[tame wasp]

hey guys

smite count as warp?

[upper sun]

ye

[tame wasp]

really?

[mossy oyster]

a psyker is using it

what else would it be

[plucky flax]

Give new psyker class

[tame wasp]

i though mabye smite is electro damage

[upper sun]

make psykertide

just 5 classes of psykers

[plucky flax]

Give gold magic.

[strong gulch]

Basically any attack that builds peril is warp. This include the special on force swords. It does not mean the scriers gaze or surety of arms are warp or convert attacks into warp.

[plucky flax]

Become Balthasar Gelt.

[radiant frigate]

they will never move again

https://tenor.com/view/бальтазар-warhammer-gif-23779786

[tame wasp]

@strong gulchthanks man

[plucky flax]

TASTE GOLD MAGIC

https://tenor.com/view/gelt-gif-22963350

He's so cool his voice is so cool.

Based ultra rich gigachad.

One of the hardest speech in gaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrRpdJqMC80

[patent mango]

i just noticed something in the launcher lol

[radiant frigate]

AAAAAAH

i need it+

giveitgiveitgiveitgiveitNOW

[patent mango]

idek if thats a power gs or force gs tho

[radiant frigate]

idc i want it

[patent mango]

true and real

[upper sun]

no way..........

thats not what i think it is..............

[halcyon gust]

Yeah....After 3 games in a row of almost full squad of knife zealots...That's enough Darktide for the weekend

[upper sun]

switch servers lmao

[halcyon gust]

Not worth the rubber banding

[radiant frigate]

london servers

[halcyon gust]

London is every where then

Hi INtense Hunting grounds

All 3 zealots got dogged all at the same time

While halfway accross the map while I got bogged down by all the shit they behind

[plucky flax]

Thanks I know what zealot build to play later tonight.

Join the hype train of speedy knife gaming.

[radiant frigate]

no

bigger weapons only

[waxen jackal]

I got a perfect combat shotgun from melk last night, are they fun to use? What blessings should I try out?

[ripe obsidian]

I love when two teammates sprint off into the blue yonder while me and someone else get mobbed by everything they aggro'd. What are they thinking? "Wow, chaos isn't even trying today!"

[ripe obsidian]

I like scattershot/manstopper

[waxen jackal]

"this mission sure is easy, wonder where all the enemies are"

[waxen jackal]

Cool thanks, I'm starting to pick up every groll weapon I can find and try them out.

[ripe obsidian]

On whichever shotgun has the wide spread as its special attack

Manstopper is infinite cleave on crit. Rejoice in the slaughter

[waxen jackal]

Shotgun is more horde clear than elite I'm guessing?

[ripe obsidian]

The shotgun with a slug as its special can bully elites. But not as well as a revolver

[nocturne dust]

I love it when someone aggros all the ragers, crushers, and bulwarks the game can throw at me, and for some reason every single one of them decides to chase me instead of the guy that aggroed them and was 3x closer.

[ripe obsidian]

I use it as a tool to clear hallways and get ragers out of my face

[ripe obsidian]

Ugh, yeah. Watch the ragers sprint past the Zealot and right into me. And of course the Zealot is who-know-where while I try to kite away

[dusk void]

Was playing knife zealot last night. I think I regret playing zealot. Psyker all the way

[wise stratus]

Hello, did they rename the trauma force staff or something? I recently got back to playing the game in general and loaded into my psyker, so I am wondering if things were changed.

[dusk void]

It's now called the Voidblast staff

[ripe obsidian]

Yes. It is Voidblast now

[dusk void]

Stupid name

They should've kept it as the Trauma Staff. Way better

[waxen jackal]

I've been playing zealot a lot lately. And psyker is definitely more fun to play

[ripe obsidian]

Psyker > Veteran > Zealot > Ogryn

[waxen jackal]

I still haven't tried vet,

[dusk void]

Vet is only good with Plasma Gun & Power Sword. Everything else is meh

[ripe obsidian]

Agile Engagement/Weapon Spec Veteran is rad

[patent mango]

vet is funny with wep specialist double barrel

[ripe gazelle]

revolver+rashad has been fun for me

[ripe obsidian]

Revolver/Rashad is ridiculously good.

[dusk void]

Sticky granades are very good though

[wise stratus]

thanks

[waxen jackal]

I see vets tear it up with las guns. I'm not sure which ones tho

[ripe obsidian]

Probably Recon

[dusk void]

Goes BRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[waxen jackal]

Probably, the one that fires super fast

[ripe obsidian]

The one that pewpews

Yeah, recon

[dusk void]

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[waxen jackal]

Oh wow, mobility isn't the dump? Good to know for when I try one out

[dusk void]

Gunkers also do amazingly well with this gun

[upper galleon]

Collat and mobility are

Collat is stagger and recons have close to none so there is little difference between 60 and 80 collat

[plucky flax]

Very based

But bistol is still cooler

[dusk void]

I don't use the lasgun. I just have it just cuz

[weary crane]

Can anyone check if "shred" applies crit chance to secondary while it lasts?

Idk how to

[radiant frigate]

secondary what

as in, the other weapon?

highly doubt

[weary crane]

Yes

I thought the blessings always dissappear but recently ive seen them stay when i switch

[gray kelp]

what's the best mk for recon on gunker? XII?

[thorn cedar]

or xiv

[radiant frigate]

the fast one

[gray kelp]

also why is the color pattern on mastery skin for combat knife a fucking candy cane

[thorn cedar]

santa claus is the fifth warp entity

[gray kelp]

pushstabbing mint flavor into nurgle followers' mouths instantly kills them evidently

[olive mulch]

is assail worth using on damnation

[sly dawn]

Gonna be using bolt pistol for gunpsyker, and are puncture and lethal proximity good?

[gray kelp]

I run it on my gun psyker, it's really nice if you use scrier's gaze and took the talent of being immune to blowing yourself up for 10s

activate scriers, max the bonuses, go apeshit with assails when peril caps

anything that isn't heavily armored dies very fast

[olive mulch]

aight ty

[ripe gazelle]

what perks and blessing for dueling sword

although i know its more a preference thing but like, what are the options?

[plucky flax]

I use maniac carapace uncanny and rampage/shred/riposte

[ripe gazelle]

just remembered to check the psyker atheneum (im a dumbie) and it said unyielding and maniac with blessing options, but uncanny and shred being their top picks

[plucky flax]

It's also one guy's opinion, just like mine.

Test various options and see. Re blessing and re perking are pretty cheap I think?

[upper sun]

i go carapace maniac uncanny and relentless

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah like 2k money per, nothing

[plucky flax]

Maniac is just really good for mutie headpoke.

[zinc phoenix]

Annoyingly curios still eat plas to change them

And diamantine which used to not matter but now really does

[plucky flax]

Yeah I think people starve on diamantine now.

I am rich though.

[upper sun]

i have 14k

thats enough for 14 weapons

[plucky flax]

Kinda broke man.

[upper sun]

am i broke if i never use it

or are you broke if you spend 50k on slop?

[lethal lagoon]

Don't spend on slop, invest it in the Darktide market. The armory is famous for staying strong during a recession.

[upper sun]

im investing in the dockets shop

[lethal lagoon]

I go right to the source, I invested in a docket mining operation.

[dusk void]

Still broke

If this games lets me trade ordo dockets, I would be having a giveaway

[zinc phoenix]

I had like 50k diamantine but burned it all 😂

[upper sun]

i had 30k before the update

[hollow jolt]

serve the Emperor and receive Diamantine c:

[upper sun]

i spent half preupgrading weapons

and changing blessings

i didnt have faith 😭

[dusk void]

I used to have 20 million ordos. Now I’m at 18 million

[zinc phoenix]

Oof I burned through so much cash

Trying to roll a perfect plasma gun 😂

I think almost 10mil