psyker-class

[royal falcon]

assail

and also hybrid

and also build

[rigid mortar]

I mean I run an auto gun to mag dump elites and bosses. assail to deal with hordes as a panic button I don’t know if it’s good but I find it fun

[strong gulch]

perks: flak + crit chance

blessings: blazing spirit + warp nexus

[ripe obsidian]

If I could reliably hit headshots, I would be a lot better at this game...

[rigid mortar]

Also is gaze better for gun psyker or big melee dps?

[hollow jolt]

assail psyker starts at lvl 4

[ripe obsidian]

These numbers make me sad. I gotta work harder to blow up noggins.

[hollow jolt]

literally that easy

[ripe obsidian]

I mean. I'm not bad. I just definitely am not doing as well as I could.

As for assail, I have not tried it

[hollow jolt]

100% headshot rate because I have unbound every key except W and G

[ripe obsidian]

I can see no flaws in this plan.

[hollow jolt]

my Beloved has foreseen my victory

[strong gulch]

Assail does body shot if you're willy-nilly with it.

but it's NOT like aiming a gun

[ripe obsidian]

As it stands, I prop up my bad headshotting by picking weapons that kill (most) things on a bodyshot anyway. Revolver, Voidstrike, DB shotgun, sorta Bistol, etc.

[hollow jolt]

maybe for BAD psykers

[ripe obsidian]

The biggest downside of not getting headshots is not getting the crunchy sound effect.

[nocturne dust]

Best part of voidstrike is the crunchy sound effect

[austere warren]

is dd bugged or are there just too many buffs in this game now

[potent maple]

whats a good gun psyker build ?

[lethal lagoon]

The buff icon is bugged, you still have DD

[lethal lagoon]

Recon(lowest damage one), vraks 5 infantry gun + dueling sword +scrier's gaze + assail + DD

[ornate hamlet]

Get the brown recon and brown autogun

Be a true g*mer

[lethal lagoon]

Erm, mods?

[ornate hamlet]

G*mma

[nocturne dust]

what is the mod that fixes it

[lethal lagoon]

I dunno, I still need to install it

😜

[nocturne dust]

see, everyone says there is a mod that fixes it but nobody can tell me which mod

[radiant frigate]

i wish it worked

[lethal lagoon]

I think they just don't like you

[radiant frigate]

or sg for that matter

[lethal lagoon]

what' wrong with sg?

[radiant frigate]

what if i wanna know for how long exactly i am immune to going boom

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah

There's a mod for that

I use that

[broken carbon]

warp unbound

there’s a mod for that

i don’t use that

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/jar-jar-binks-how-rude-rude-star-wars-pissed-gif-17565387

[lethal lagoon]

Unbased

[broken carbon]

ur swagless

[lethal lagoon]

wait wtf

now it says bufftintin

post just tintin

There has to be a version that's juts tintin

[broken carbon]

i changed the name of the sticker

it was originally tintin

[strong gulch]

@lethal lagoon @nocturne dust There's Buff HUD Improvements and Custom HUD. Better buff management apparently lets you make custom buff bars that you can sperate.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/158
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/10

[broken carbon]

then i changed it to bufftintin

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-adventures-of-tintin-nodding-nodding-head-yes-gif-17164921120707927329

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

[lethal lagoon]

When you don't know, no one is helpful
When I don't know, everyone is helpful

[strong gulch]

This is the easiest. Buff hud improvements and custom hud lets you just have the buff icon and place it where you want.

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/366

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-crying-meme-gif-22168515

[lethal lagoon]

Thanks potato, I won't boil your kind today.

🥔

[nocturne dust]

Fry them instead

[lethal lagoon]

Why that potato emote.... kinda sussy?

[strong gulch]

Kinda accurate when I ball up.

[nocturne dust]

also real tintin reference

[lethal lagoon]

I prefer the ironiron meme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esl_wOQDUeE

[austere warren]

Yeah I figured that was all it was.

I was about to cry if the og DD bug was back.

[lethal lagoon]

Wasn't the OG bug also a graphical glitch too?

[lyric prism]

what are the best duel sword blessings?

[nocturne dust]

uncanny

and [preference]

I prefer thrust on psyker

some say riposte/precog

[sly phoenix]

Does fire staff count for soulblaze?

[nocturne dust]

Fire staff is the soulblaze, yes

[dusk void]

Warp resistance is the dump stat on that, right?

[lyric prism]

what duel sword is best? the psyker guide seems out dated

[nocturne dust]

si

[nocturne dust]

ds4 for single target, it's also the easiest to use.

[dusk void]

I guess this is good enough, right?

[nocturne dust]

Yep, that's perfect. I prefer crit chance for the 2nd perk but unyielding is fine.

[lyric prism]

ds dump stat?

[strong gulch]

DS4 is usually the pick. It's heavies are easy to chain and have big DPS.

[unique mist]

could go cleave or mob

[nocturne dust]

Mobility. Some say cleave but those people are wrong /s.

[unique mist]

it has high enough mobility to dump mob, but you can also dump cleave if you are in love with the high mobility

[lyric prism]

aight

and what are the must have talents for the DS?

[unique mist]

uncanny

[lyric prism]

i am going gunker btw

[lyric prism]

not blessings, i mean talents

but thanks ❤️

[nocturne dust]

It has nothing to do with its mobility, mobility is just generally a dump stat because 60 to 80 is a very small nudge

[strong gulch]

If you chain the DS heavies and specials, DS4 and DS2 have completable single target damage, but the DS2 has better horde management. DS4 is more simple to use tho.

[nocturne dust]

nothing really, ds4 just works

psyker is a mainly ranged class anyway

[lyric prism]

is there then anything to really supercharge my single target damage?

[nocturne dust]

Scrier's Gaze

[lyric prism]

idk who that was, but i saw some absolute ludicrous damage coming from someone with a DS

[nocturne dust]

but it's also dangerous to run meleeker

[lyric prism]

like they hard bursted the boss within a few seconds

[lethal lagoon]

thrust and precog

Blessings

[nocturne dust]

thrust and relentless

[unique mist]

was it a psyker? coulda been a zealot

[lethal lagoon]

precog crits are better, relentless is just more reliable

[strong gulch]

Cleave damage on DS from 60 to 80 is more minor than 60 80. Also, cleave damage is still bugged and doesn't apply to flak (like it's supposed to).

[dusk void]

I guess it's time for me to upgrade this bad boy then

[lyric prism]

maybe it was, but it was some crazy damage

[nocturne dust]

We love our reliability

[lethal lagoon]

I love reliabily stealing your warfire and your will to live.

[nocturne dust]

You can't steal my will to live

[lethal lagoon]

For you have none

yeah yeah

[nocturne dust]

You also can't steal my warpfire if I don't use warpfire

[split lance]

IM BACK

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-reece-simpson-kayode-ewumi-roll-safe-meme-gif-17305682

[strong gulch]

I will point out every out of play tile. 🥲

[dusk void]

Also, what are your guy's thoughts on this force sword? Good? Bad? I'm just a casual player though. Idk crap

[nocturne dust]

replace superiority with slaughterer

[dusk void]

The math works out. More power on the sword. Thanks for your input

[nocturne dust]

and more reliable

Elites be hiding when you need them

[dusk void]

Although I do prefer the combat blade

[nocturne dust]

How dare you

filthy knife player, smh my head

[dusk void]

Why kill heretics with sword when I have my blazing trauma staff

[nocturne dust]

Because bosses

[dusk void]

Ain't my job to kill them

[nocturne dust]

Yes it is.

[dusk void]

But I'll listen to you

[nocturne dust]

Morrow says kill everything, you kill everything.

[dusk void]

Can anyone agree that this is some BS?

[austere warren]

Assuming people are even cooperating well enough, it works.

¯_(ツ)_/¯

yeah no shit it's not outright killing em, but a wee push whenever? that's fine.

[ornate hamlet]

May smite die in warpfire

All my homies play the game

[nocturne dust]

No that just makes it stronger, you fool!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

[glossy escarp]

Lukewarm take, smite is good at keeping hordes in place if you wanna creepflame them but the damage is pitiful on its own

Whoever wrote that is talking out of their ass

[brave fiber]

is the best gunker gun still the vraks V? (prepatch columnus)

[ornate sedge]

"talented expert" bro shut the fuck up

holding right click makes me a top one percent player frfr

[kindred edge]

That and the fast-firing recon las.

[dusk void]

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

[brave fiber]

thanks ill have to take a look at that

[worn beacon]

Cold take because there's EP smite

Aka

[brave fiber]

i think ive used las guns maybe once ever in this game and that was when i first started with one

[worn beacon]

How to kill everything by holding two buttons

[ornate hamlet]

How can a bear be bipolar

If you take a bear from the north pole to the south, he falls off the planet

He's not used to reverse gravity

[potent echo]

Talented expert chooses to hold one button to avoid all responsibility

Ok hold two buttons

Other than the talented expert part more people should manage horde during bosses

[brave fiber]

i put a talent point into empyric resolve twice and it crashed my game both times, is that node cursed lmao

[proper bay]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d43624e-2aec-48bf-8013-9da5218fa4f5/br-psyker-test-build what can I do with this build?

how can i optimize it?

[split lance]

Why going into ER? For monsters?

EP*

[potent echo]

Eepy is nice for rager packs

Chaining elites in general

Ok although eepy burgertus is sus

For sure you go WarpCharges with inferno

Pulling out BR against mixed hordes I think is playing inferno wrong

[proper bay]

easier to proc in my experience

v limited experience

really just need guidance on warp charges

[split lance]

this is normal purg build

[hearty laurel]

what would some good perks be for the voidblast/trauma staff?

[split lance]

Blast = blaze and nexus
Flak and unyielding

[hearty laurel]

ah, thought so.

[proper bay]

adjusting

[hearty laurel]

yeah i'm running a blaze and nexus staff. wasn't completely sure what enemy type to apply

had flak but was unsure of unyielding. thanks.

[potent echo]

There's only one map event I can think of where having EP BR is better than WC

But even then if you stand at the correct place you won't need EP

[strong gulch]

crit chance is meta for fire trauma, but do what you hate most too

[ripe obsidian]

Soulstealer vs. Empathic Evasion, thoughts? I've seen builds go one or the other.

[proper bay]

adjusted the build i linked to this standard

[zinc phoenix]

That last point for the 6 warp charges should be considered free

Some people go for kinetic flayer, others like the evasion trait

The short range staves also benefit from deimos w/deflector but ds4 is also popular

[ripe obsidian]

I prefer DS4 with Purg to kill Crushers

[potent echo]

Empathic for sure, best is both

Drop warp expenditure

[ripe obsidian]

I do not use warp expenditure

But everyone peer pressured me into using Kinetic Flayer, so I have only one point to use for EE or Soulstealer

[strong gulch]

I'd personally drop sould stealer for EE. Even after the mettle nerf, mettle still refills toughness on purg really well.

[potent echo]

You can choose not to use flayer like me

You need mettle for perfect timing

[ripe obsidian]

I'm using EE currently.

[strong gulch]

I don't use ER on purg because it already generate low peril compared to the other staves.

[potent echo]

Mettle/expenditure but mettle is better on purg

Yea I skip ER as well

[primal plume]

yee

[ripe obsidian]

Tbh I don't usually die to losing toughness. I die to a crusher overhead I misjudged, a trapper I didn't notice, or thinking I had Venting Shriek up.

[atomic swan]

both
if i have to choose one
i will drop EE

[strong gulch]

ye

I'm never dropping EE on purg

[atomic swan]

only drop Soulstealer on purg*

[ripe obsidian]

Oh, I am specifically talking about purg

[potent echo]

Soulstealer can be replaced with souldrinker

[ripe obsidian]

I use Soulstealer on Voidstrike. Never letting it go

[potent echo]

If you can wriggle your way over there somehow

[ripe obsidian]

Would need to clear 3 points to get there. D:

[potent echo]

Yea I don't think I have souldrinker on my build either

[split lance]

thsi is the right purg build do not take ER lol

oopsies

[potent echo]

Nice now we're gaming

[ripe obsidian]

Weren't you the one bullying me for not taking KF? The hypocrisy.

[wind spruce]

I don't understand not taking kinetic resonance. It makes BB actually usable

[potent echo]

What do you let go though

[ripe obsidian]

Shouldn't be relying on BB for damage imo

It's for picking off random snipers

[wind spruce]

Wildfire, toughness or KD

[strong gulch]

Irosk! Hi. I haven't seen ya in awhile.

[wind spruce]

No one said anything about relying on it but it helps you contest all sorts of specials quicker plus gunners

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[split lance]

This one’s just as basic as it gets on purg

[ripe obsidian]

Fair

[potent echo]

Perhaps no soulstealer

[wind spruce]

Hey! Yeah I'm away atm so not online much

[ripe obsidian]

:(

[wind spruce]

Yeah that's probably what I'd pick for most people

Or just KD if you're not bad

[potent echo]

Yes

KD forever

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/sans-gif-26695972

[ripe obsidian]

What if I am bad

[potent echo]

Everytime I play a stinky non psyker class I get guard broken because I'm so spoilt

[wind spruce]

Uninstall

[ripe obsidian]

RIP

[strong gulch]

KD jail with me

[wind spruce]

So stinky

[strong gulch]

Or get babysat by the shoes and no-shoes clans

[potent echo]

Sharrt

[strong gulch]

question every fart

[ripe gazelle]

baby shoes for sale?

[wind spruce]

Could also genuinely drop warp battery as shitty as that sounds. 8% damage difference is inconsequential, and a lot of people aren't utilising the extra ~4 seconds off shriek cooldown most of the time.

(But also CDR go brrrrrrr, I'm never dropping warp battery)

[potent echo]

Cdr go brrr indeed

[strong gulch]

It's me. They're my shoes. 🥲

IDK what the dregs would even do with them.

[dusk void]

CAN I PLEASE DO A FUCKING MISSION WITHOUT ME FREZZING AND DISCONNECTING, FATSHARK

[strong gulch]

Tho I do drop the last WC node often.

[proper bay]

but i like BR/BB?

heads exploding are p nice but ya

[dusk void]

Was the last man standing and of course Fatshark likes to fuck my clutch with freezzing my game and disconnecting

smh, why

[proper bay]

build set in stone now

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9d43624e-2aec-48bf-8013-9da5218fa4f5

now just hustling to convert curios back to toughness/toughness regen, and stamina

[split lance]

do this

bc purg

[primal plume]

Any way to turn off these water droplet effects?

[split lance]

bloom in settings

[primal plume]

That makes spells look like shit though. Theres no other way?

[split lance]

also i lied even more this is normal purg

man im stupid

[split lance]

no

[primal plume]

warplightning looks like silly string without bloom

[tidal scaffold]

what do you psyker mains think of this brain burst build, i havent touched my psyker since the update and am trying to remake my builds

[potent echo]

If you are going full brain burst I would go double wall shields

You can stack them to get omegafast BR

Drop wield speed and battle meditation

[tidal scaffold]

already dropped those after reading em, i just got all the top talents out of habit

[potent echo]

Take CDR aura instead of elite damage

Don't think elite damage affects any BR breakpoints

[proper bay]

im too confused

[potent echo]

I would take KD because it's psykers special fun sauce

[wooden flare]

Anyone else have the issue where DD just doesn’t mark anything?

[potent echo]

DD is a little wild animal and you need to force it to mark certain targets by looking away

[proper bay]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d43624e-2aec-48bf-8013-9da5218fa4f5/br-psyker-test-build

[tidal scaffold]

the one that blocks raise peril? why would i want that?

[proper bay]

ok adjusted

[potent echo]

It just makes fighting bosses/ragers a breeze

[proper bay]

i really just want an enhanced brain rupture though

[potent echo]

It's fine either way

[proper bay]

like I want to spec around BR first

i was happy with the EP version and idk why i need to bother with warp charges

[tidal scaffold]

also which one is DD i dont see one that is abbreviated as that

[wooden flare]

Disrupt Destiny

[tidal scaffold]

oh Disrupt

duh

[wooden flare]

Aka dive into the enemy backline and die because the DD wills it

You will do anything for those stacks

and God forbid anyone gets in your way

[potent echo]

Or just look away

DD will only mark things that are within your vision cone

[wooden flare]

Then explain how tf it marks someone above me

[tidal scaffold]

where should i put these last 2 points

[potent echo]

I play with max fov so I have no issues

[wooden flare]

Two more in left tree to get rending on warp attacks

I’m assuming crit inferno staff?

[split lance]

Ew no

[tidal scaffold]

lol no

actually wait i thought i was still using voidstrike

i do havei nferno staff

[tidal scaffold]

okay what should i get instead then?

not much else i can get iwth these two points

why not empyric resolve -30% toughness replenished cant be that bad :^)

[atomic swan]

no
its so hurt

[vast scroll]

I'm new to the game just got it today.... people posted pics with a scoreboard mod earlier today... looks neat... any specific mods people suggest?

[tidal scaffold]

ITS A FED DONT DO IT

[potent echo]

Yes

[atomic swan]

toughness replenished here means every way that recover toughness

[tidal scaffold]

i know, it was a rhetorical question

[atomic swan]

you can use it
the -40% is so good
but its a really hurt double edge sword

[languid dragon]

Why you going EP with BB? seems like a waste

[nocturne dust]

git gud

Empyric Resolve is great and practically in every meta staff build

[fossil lagoon]

Siblings

10% rending talent worth ?

My last point is either 10% rend or 5% flat ranged damage

[nocturne dust]

no

To put it into perspective, vet gets 10% rending node with no conditions.

Psyker gets 10% on 75% peril.

Even if you edge a ton, 10% rending isn't super useful.

although idk what build you're on where your best alternative is a 5% ranged node

[broken carbon]

i edge a ton but i don’t see how that’s relevant to darktide

[latent mauve]

[atomic swan]

tbh I think ER is overkill on most of staff build

[nocturne dust]

Touching grass is an essential activity for the mental well-being of your local psyker

[broken carbon]

this may shock you

[nocturne dust]

It absolutely isn't on auric.

[broken carbon]

but i actually play zealot

[nocturne dust]

I'm aware.

[broken carbon]

i need to play psyker again

just

gunner stun

exists

also i have to learn the new tree

[atomic swan]

Yes even auric

[broken carbon]

i disagree

auric in some situations will require constant staff shooting

[nocturne dust]

Heck no

[broken carbon]

being able to shoot ~40% more against a crusher pack, specialist wave, massive mixed horde

before having to stop

and quell

is pretty major

[nocturne dust]

There's a very good reason every meta staff build has ER

even purg

[broken carbon]

i’d actually argue against ER with purge

due to how little peril purg builds

[nocturne dust]

You use KF to help build peril for shriek

and it also triggers PC

[broken carbon]

kf?

[nocturne dust]

kinetic flayer

[remote shadow]

I'm loving spamming crits with the electrostaff
Just deleted the cultist champion on Heresy Rolling Steel

[broken carbon]

that doesn’t gen peril though, does it? and it’s only every 10 seconds if it does

i know KF doesn’t proc above crit peril

but unless they changed something

[nocturne dust]

iirc it does gen peril when it triggers, and it's 15 seconds

[broken carbon]

i’ve never seen it generate peril

[broken carbon]

yah 15 seconds right

KF needs 2 get buffed

or reworked

[nocturne dust]

it's actually not bad since the targetting update

[broken carbon]

i’m still sad they buffed psyker in all the not cool ways

[nocturne dust]

it's a very minor dps buff over the previous option

[broken carbon]

killing one elite every 15 seconds is not that good though unfortunately

[nocturne dust]

Yes, but for a single talent point it's an improvement

[broken carbon]

fair

[fossil lagoon]

Voidblast with the double attack on crit blessing

[nocturne dust]

and also even before KF, you could generate enough peril on purg to consistently shriek as long as you never quelled with ER

[fossil lagoon]

Nothing i can grab with any impact for 1 spare point rly

[nocturne dust]

[fossil lagoon]

Either 5% dmg or 15 tough or smth

[nocturne dust]

This build disgusts me

[fossil lagoon]

Hehe

[nocturne dust]

DD on voidblast

[sacred crane]

its literally one of the best defense nodes in the game

[dusk void]

I CAN'T WITH THIS GAME. I CAN'T EVEN COMPLETE ONE DAMN MISSION WITHOUT SOME FUCKING SERVER ERROR DISCONNECTING ME. FUCKING FATSHARK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THIS IS SOME FUCKERY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sacred crane]

it allows you to block a lot more against enemies and bosses and pairs greatly with deflection and shriek

[nocturne dust]

someone is not taking KD? What heresy!

[sacred crane]

i mean, you get a bonus 5% crit chance if u take it

[nocturne dust]

If you don't take KD, we can't be friends

[tidal scaffold]

I havent had a single connection issue in months, im not trying to like discount your experience, but what do you have that i dont?

[nocturne dust]

the issue is Fatshark programming

[sacred crane]

i dont use KD on like 2 builds, my gunker and my inferno

everything else uses it

[nocturne dust]

I have connection issues in Darktide all the time, which is insane because even VT2 doesn't give me these issues

[dusk void]

I'm an engineer. I can probably fix that server connection bullshit better than their fucking programmers can

[nocturne dust]

how dare you

[atomic swan]

whats wrong

i think its fine tho

[sacred crane]

Reason:
Gunker: Taking the quell on crit
Inferno: Souldrinker

[nocturne dust]

DD does like nothing for voidblast

You can't hit weakspots with voidblast rmb

[nocturne dust]

ew

Souldrinker is not worth

[sacred crane]

u sure dawg?

[nocturne dust]

Yes

Absolutely

[dusk void]

There can be some uses though

[sacred crane]

its literally just 5% crit chance node with bonus toughness

[nocturne dust]

Yes

[atomic swan]

wait than what is voidstrike new name now

[nocturne dust]

And that's several talent points just to get it

[nocturne dust]

voidstrike

[dusk void]

Complain to FatShark about it???\

[atomic swan]

lmao so trauma > voidblast

k

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but don't take souldrinker as it is now if you want max meta

[atomic swan]

i thought that is voidstrike new name

[nocturne dust]

It's not worth it

[nocturne dust]

lol, no, Fatshark wants to confuse us all

Purgatus already gets plenty of toughness gen with mettle even after the mettle nerf, the added toughness from souldrinker isn't worth it and diverging several points just for crit chance is definitely not worth it

[wooden flare]

Huzzah

Defy Fate penance is done

No more DD

I AM FREE

[nocturne dust]

[wooden flare]

Back to my Shriek spam blazing inferno Warp Battery build

[dusk void]

My current build rn does not have souldrinker. I think it can benefit from the Empyric Resolve since there is less toughness regen on that node

[nocturne dust]

I would drop Warp Siphon's toughness node and grab wildfire, and switch the BB node to KF

[wooden flare]

All that’s left for me are the tedious kill x penances

and then Malleus Monstronum

How ironic

My least favorite class with the most penances done

[nocturne dust]

[atomic swan]

because they are easy

[wooden flare]

Did I say I hate Psyker?

I find them fun

But I like beefy characters

And Psyker

[dusk void]

Wildfire caps the amount of soulblaze dealt, so that's why I didn't take it. But I'm open to your reasoning behind why I should take wildfire

[nocturne dust]

You like them less than the blunts, blunt.

[atomic swan]

The ogryn penances are the most tedious imo

[nocturne dust]

[wooden flare]

The only penance that scares me atm is Shocking Stuff on Zealot

[nocturne dust]

Yes wildfire does. Wildfire also gives you a free 4 stacks because it spread beyond purg range, so any intense situation has enemies entering purg range with a 4 stack starter, which is 1/4 of purg's max stacks and quite significant. It also helps make PC more useful and you want to amp your stacks as quickly as possible.

[atomic swan]

its stupid to make me nuke every horde i see because its required 25 kills with a single nuke

[wooden flare]

Ogrynheimer

[nocturne dust]

Basically, purg likes soulblaze stacks. More soulblaze good.

It's why you combine it with shriek

[dusk void]

So in shorter terms, you're essentially "pre-cooking" the heretics, and when they reach the cap of 4 stacks you need to more stacks (Venting Shriek w/ Creeping Flames) to kill trash mobs and trash gunners. Okay, I see your point (and btw, that is my Blazing Trauma build)

[nocturne dust]

yes because soulblaze damage ramps exponentially, so you want as many stacks as quickly as possible

[proper bay]

How’s this for BR/Purg combo?

Trying to have my horde clear and also my single target head popper

[nocturne dust]

not bad if you're set on EP BB, I'd switch battle meditation for the damage node under mettle

[dusk void]

Will take your word for it. Thanks for the tips. Appreciate you helping me out

[narrow herald]

pls take this node

[nocturne dust]

[nocturne dust]

yes, perfect timing and purge are good

[dusk void]

I'm still a casual gamer by heart though, even though I have like over 1,000 hours in this game

[proper bay]

Done

Not sure how else to improve it cause it’s crushers I fear when I went left side keystone

It made sense to do that to benefit from the venting shriek torch effects

[nocturne dust]

I mean, if you learn to use ds4 you won't have to fear crushers

but otherwise, yes, you can use BB to pop crushers safely

[proper bay]

Gotcha. Thank you friends

[nocturne dust]

I personally would've gone for Empyric Resolve or KF, but I'm not sure how many points you have to move around or if you play safe enough to take ER's toughness hit

[narrow herald]

Actually wait this is literally just my build on GT https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c397648-c43f-404d-85e1-95dd3e9a6fba/pyro-3?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[nocturne dust]

Would probably be simpler for me to make and link a build on GL rather than repeating literally everything every time someone asks about inferno, lol

[sacred crane]

i love this game!
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/iTwrfPPrpRXLg6NOh?invite=cr-MSwxT0ksMTkxMDIyMjAyLA

[nocturne dust]

Bonbon saw an opportunity

Tale as old as time

[inland berry]

what do you run on axe?

[sacred crane]

brutal momentum, headtaker, flak, maniac

very basic, very good

[inland berry]

what do you run on chainaxe while im here?

[nocturne dust]

Every time someone says maniac I think of this: https://youtu.be/pUWXTY_lmns

[potent echo]

I run thrust headtaker on the 12

Thrust lets you oneshot ragers and below on regular heavy

Also push attack on the 12 is really good as a poke so do that

[fair jungle]

for a force sword, is it better to have 60% mobility or 60% warp resistance?

[strong gulch]

WR is dump stat

[fair jungle]

tyvm

[strong gulch]

the exception is if you are doing special spam but that is niche

No life gaming

[fair jungle]

for perks i would use dmg to flak and maniacs?

currently using block efficiency with deflector blessing. i know it's not great but it's saved my bacon so i like it

[timid storm]

what are the thoughts on crit for a full flame build? is it worth, or does it only make a minor difference?

[kindred edge]

Use Kinetic Deflection talent instead of block efficiency. Really save your bacon

Of course you have to fit it in the build, but it's very worth it if you can imo

[kindred edge]

I mean, I use Warp Nexus on mine, but I don't think I've got much crit other than that.

[timid storm]

i wish there was a way to see what my total stats are, i have no idea how high/low my crit is rn

[upper galleon]

crits are +1 stacks of soulblaze on impact as well as triggering your on crit talents for the flamethrower staff, it can be good to take nexus, but on flamethrower it's not worth the 5% perk, on blazing voidblast, it is good to take 5% crit chance

[timid storm]

oh okay, thats mainly what i was trying to decide. whether i wanted the 10% cooldown, or 5% crit

i am using purgatus

for the perfect timing node, the one that gives +3% warp damage on a crit, does that increase already applied soulblaze?

[atomic crane]

I'm having difficulty with the blessed by fate penance 😦 I use venting shriek when the purple tendrils come but it doesn't give me credit

[timid storm]

it isnt about the tendrils

your psyker has to have his hands like at his face

[atomic crane]

Oooooooohhh I tried that in the psykanium and I see what you mean, thanks 🙂

[nocturne dust]

either is a dump stat

[nocturne dust]

I recommend using Kinetic Deflection and if you feel like you need it, a stamina curio because KD peril costs scale off stamina.

Less of an opportunity cost than block efficiency on a weapon perk

and you'll be able to block far more for far longer (just don't try to block overhead attacks)

[potent echo]

KD lets you sprint around at zero stamina and not be punished

[strong gulch]

Yes. DOTs don't snapshot. They actively take on or loose buffs.

[fresh reef]

no idea how well I did here, so posting for feedback

[ornate hamlet]

0 bosses killed

[fresh reef]

ya I should probably remove that

seems bugged

[potent echo]

Put boss damage

[timid storm]

Speaking of boss damage, what should purg psyker do with bosses? Id imagine DOT isnt that strong on them

[ornate hamlet]

Deimos and laspistol is a brave combo

[fresh reef]

it's on there

[fresh reef]

damage mogged our plasma vet on bosses, somehow

infernus dumdum op

[timid storm]

on bosses?

oh damn, ive been assuming i just dont focus boss lol

everyone else seems to do so much more damage

[ornate hamlet]

☑️

https://tenor.com/view/gibberish-discord-meme-get-this-man-a-shield-wakanda-gif-1239357558790190300

[nocturne dust]

burn boss

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1004447866250613048/1295449409160478781/chiquichico-ezgif.com-instagif.gif

It helps to have the mod that shows debuffs on enemies

because once you reach max stacks of soulblaze, you should switch to a +unyielding sword (ds4)

because the soulblaze stacks will gain the perks of whatever you switch to, and the sword lets you do even more damage on top

[strong gulch]

and build uncanny stacks

[fair jungle]

if i'm not using deflection on a force sword i would use slaughterer and unstable power instead?

[nocturne dust]

uncanny and slaughterer

is the general recommendation

uncanny gets priority most of the time

[fair jungle]

so uncanny top prio and second bless is w/e

[nocturne dust]

unless you're using illisi for horde clear, it kind of needs slaughterer

[fair jungle]

what would some good perks be

[nocturne dust]

flak + maniac is the common go-to

It's not bad to switch to unyielding or carapace if you find those types of enemies more troubling tho

[nocturne dust]

Psyker has a hard time doing great boss damage. It is true that in a cooperative team, psyker is probably best utilized by handling other threats while the others take care of the boss, but that doesn't mean you should just ignore the boss the entire time. Psyker boss damage is still a meaningful addition if someone isn't running a boss killer build like thammer or gunlugger.

Purgatus + Ds4 is actually one of the better ways Psyker can deal boss damage.

[worldly elm]

Good lord

recon lasgun is actually kinda silly with crit talents

especially with the peril regen talent'

build up full peril, swap to recon for a hefty damage boost from the other talent and basically vent all your peril in no time at all

granted i feel the damage boost is almost wasted with how fast you burn through the peril

with quietude and mettle though

that could be a lot of toughness regain

[potent echo]

Toughness Regen? When you have 100% uptime on empathic evasion

[worldly elm]

Can never be too tough

If that blue bar so much as goes below 3/4ths full I have failed

heretics might as well have killed me right then and there

The emperors protection shall never wane

[idle scroll]

does cleave from Warp Splitting apply to ranged attacks like recon las and voidstrike?

[uncut sinew]

yes

[idle scroll]

gross.

[strong gulch]

If the attack has some cleave to it already, then warp splitting noticeably adds to it's cleave.

So voidstrike RMB yes but LMB no.

[idle scroll]

yea modifying the attack's cleave, makes sense

[uncut sinew]

primary attacks on the staves benefit from it, at 100% peril, one LMB can kill 2 trash enemies, makes for a fun LMB staff build imo

[idle scroll]

worth taking on accatran build? mk4 dueling/accatran/assail/bubble

usually dump assail to get to max peril, mag dump las, repeat, melee and bubble as needed

[strong gulch]

Just for assail yes

[idle scroll]

ty!

[uncut sinew]

dumping assail at a 100% peril makes it incredibly strong, hordes simply get deleted within seconds

and if using EP, even better

but ofcourse you'll be using sciers with warp unbound and not a bubble, so there's that

[idle scroll]

yea and I've tried it before, for my current build I don't have another way to get peril so I'm using assail to stack it then switching to gun

[uncut sinew]

try with illisi

it's a fun build

[idle scroll]

I'll look into it, was doing deimos for a while but I can see that being fun. played EP for the longest time, but I mostly played shriek and not gaze

[nocturne dust]

lmb yes, but you need like 100% peril for it to cleave anything

so pretty useless unless you have a specific setup

[uncut sinew]

illisi is goated with warp splitting imo

clears hordes so well

makes for a good melee psyker

and sciers is a better shriek nowdays

[plucky flax]

Huh

[uncut sinew]

extra dmg, no vibe checking, more crit chance

imo better shriek

[plucky flax]

Press f to delete horde

[uncut sinew]

shriek is better for soublaze builds i reckon

atleast a better fit for the theme

[quartz barn]

Completely different build and playstyle tho

[uncut sinew]

but i haven't used shriek since they added warp unbound

[uncut sinew]

this is true

[nocturne dust]

I wouldn't say Scrier's beats shriek.

Real hard to beat all that free damage on auric.

[quartz barn]

Ye idk how youd compare the 2 aside from aoe control / dmg

[uncut sinew]

i suppose sciers fits my aggressive playstyle better than shriek

so could be my opinion isn't fully valid

[quartz barn]

With scriers being multi or single target depending on the weapon

[nocturne dust]

I mean, Scrier's isn't bad by any means and is definitely a better pick for some builds

[uncut sinew]

love my seeerge, mk4/illisi, assail, sciers and EP

[nocturne dust]

Hm, surge + scrier's is a strange combo

[uncut sinew]

i love it

so much dmg

2-3 shot a reaper, bulwark or a crusher

[nocturne dust]

I think shriek definitely outputs more damage on a surge build than Scrier's because of the single-target nature of surge, but you do you.

[uncut sinew]

i used to run the same build as i do now, but with shriek, and my dmg output has incresed noticably with sciers

[nocturne dust]

Not a bad combo with EP assail or illisi.

[uncut sinew]

it works beautifully

[nocturne dust]

Well, the same build might be a problem, shriek and scrier's kinda want separate tree nodes.

[uncut sinew]

similar*

but the idea was the same

[nocturne dust]

Hm, well, with EP maybe

Shriek surge wants warp siphon after all

[uncut sinew]

i used EP with shriek

warp siphon was good, yes

but EP assail

my beloved

[nocturne dust]

If you're relying on assail like that, then yeah Scrier's would probably help more, lol

[uncut sinew]

yeah lmao

i mostly switch between seerge and assail throughout the match

[loud reef]

Scrier builds peril too fast

If you could quell peril while using a gun that would make it better

[shrewd comet]

kind of a dumb question here, so please forgive me xD

but is there a melee psyker build?

[nocturne dust]

Tranquility Through Slaughter: exists

[nocturne dust]

there is but it's off-meta

Someone other than me can probably point you towards it

[mystic pike]

oi why would one of you psykers use a gun but not bring gaze

instead bringing a bubble

[loud reef]

Because a bolt pistol is effective at every range

[mystic pike]

they wasn't using a bolt pistol those it was a las gun

[loud reef]

What a bitch

Was it at least the recon lasgun?

[mystic pike]

nope it was the infantry las

[potent echo]

Bubble works with gun because it's the only suppression immune feature we have

Usually run it with guns that already have good bps like volvo

[strong gulch]

@lethal lagoon @split lance KF got the killing blow on a chaos spawn.

https://tenor.com/view/borat-borat-very-nice-verynice-thumbs-up-gif-25080066

[split lance]

Beautiful

[strong gulch]

Why put your hand out in front of you when you can just do this.

[plucky flax]

[atomic swan]

Scrier grant you suppression immune after UnL patch

[compact cargo]

Been the smallest psyker also helps

I literally cannot be suppresed if I stand in the downed ogryn

quite handy

[plucky flax]

Smol height hard to melee and use voidstrike.

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-hugs-gif-22171102

smol psykers meleeing heretics

[ashen schooner]

my pysker is min height, it's great yo get to outkill all your giant blunt teammates

[left basin]

I NEED A FORCE BILLHOOK

[jagged obsidian]

question, what is the secondary attack of a staff? the melee attack or the charging attack???

[echo root]

Rightclick

[jagged obsidian]

ty

[echo root]

The melee attack is the special attack

LMB - Primary, RMB - Secondary, V - Special.

[quartz barn]

Isnt special tied to mb4 by default

Even if you dont have extra buttons

[nocturne dust]

no

At least I don't recall it being a mouse button by default, but I did rebind it to my mouse

[potent echo]

Wait it does

[languid dragon]

but why is it gonna give me 5 points when I only need 1?

[nocturne dust]

Because Fatshark can't count

welcome to Bugtide

[languid dragon]

Fair enough

they are a small indie company after all

[strong gulch]

maths hard

[jagged obsidian]

the devs miscounted 😛

[opal pecan]

or are keeping their options open for another blessing in the future without having toa dd more levels

[stuck sinew]

It is kinda annoying having the little "new points" notification on the mastery screen

[languid dragon]

ikr haha

I'm about to try damnation for the first time, here I go! 🫡

[wind spruce]

How quickly did you fail the mission?

[wind spruce]

Bro you literally can

[languid dragon]

it was a win thank you very much

[wind spruce]

Its a talent called Tranquility Through Slaughter

[wind spruce]

Nice

[radiant frigate]

i wish you could quell with mundane weapons too

[wind spruce]

Just weapon swap? It's not like most psyker weapons have long draw time

[spice veldt]

i suppose there is a niche for simplifying keybinds, and if you have a melee weapon with gun, then the reload key on your melee is doing nothing anyways

[nocturne dust]

swapping? Illegal.

Psyker should be able to quell with any melee, it t'would be nice.

[spice veldt]

but main thing is probably not wanting to make new animations

[plucky flax]

I don't swap off surge staff

[nocturne dust]

Just reuse the force sword quell

[upper sun]

no

[nocturne dust]

no u

[upper sun]

change for sword specials into something more interactive

i want the special heavy to have a projectile

[nocturne dust]

not a chance

[upper sun]

wow

rude

[nocturne dust]

Fatshark will take 6 months to add a new pistol and a club 😔

[upper sun]

what

we just had new weapons

6 months from now we get a new operation

#brunt rescue

[nocturne dust]

and not one was psyker-specific

[upper sun]

yes

tbh

[nocturne dust]

😭

[upper sun]

tbh

just port more shit from vt2

retexture it

and call it a day

i wont complain

[nocturne dust]

Also "just had"

mfer, it's been 4 months

[upper sun]

yes

thats 2 weeks in fatshark time

once more....

this is real life chud.... the cruise, the sauna, the vacation in Tahiti get the dev... NOT you...

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/ninjago-zane-no-it-cant-be-gif-21626637

[plucky flax]

One day bolt staff will be ported.

And voidstrike will go to the bin

[mystic pike]

whats all the belly aching about?

[plucky flax]

Voidstrike is like the bolt staff we have at home

[upper sun]

sienna's dagger NOW

[nocturne dust]

Believe it or not, straight to jail

[upper sun]

also her flame sword NOW

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

actually just port over sienna

thanks

[nocturne dust]

Plz no

I hated Sienna

If you have to port over someone, port over my man Kruber

[plucky flax]

What about master dwarf?

[upper sun]

dwarf mid

camera too low cant hit weakspots for shit

[plucky flax]

Dwarf is op against rats chaffs

[potent echo]

Need slayer again

Why use only one Rashad when you can have two

[solar nest]

Is it normal that psyker feels that weak at melee?

I get a hit and i get deleted from a simple horde npc

[nocturne dust]

Ironbreaker literally being the strongest career in the game by far

[nocturne dust]

yes

[nocturne dust]

yes

Don't get hit

[potent echo]

Shrimple

[upper sun]

SO TRU SO TRUUUUU

[potent echo]

Bestie

[solar nest]

Mmm i don’t like that feeling, feels like you have less options to try builds

[upper sun]

||i have 30 minutes in vt2||

t1 was too hard

[potent echo]

Play ogin then

[upper sun]

i stopped

[nocturne dust]

Psyker defense is largely about staying at range and aware of threats. Kinetic Deflection lets you block and play really defensively, but at the end of the day Psyker just cannot take hits like other classes can.

If you want to enter melees with psyker, you have to be good at melee.

and really Psyker only gets two builds, staffker and gunker

[solar nest]

The problem is sometimes when I’m focusing on a specific range i get some attacks from behind or blind points and i’m slow on reactions

[nocturne dust]

All I can say is be aware and keep your head on a swivel or learn to block when you hear that backstab noise

[potent echo]

The cheat code is to not focus the front as the backline

[nocturne dust]

or play trauma and point at your feet

[quartz barn]

Its all about spawn / horde control

[solar nest]

I’going to play a ligthing build with shields what weapon do you recomend me

[nocturne dust]

I mean with smite you can run anything

[potent echo]

Smite shield

[nocturne dust]

Yeah shield makes it weird

Wonder how effective purg smite with bubble would be

[solar nest]

This is my actual build

[potent echo]

Purg smite doesn't make sense

[solar nest]

I like the ligthings to stagger enemies

[upper sun]

no

kill them instead

you have no tools for dealing with bosses or bulwarks if you go smite purge

[solar nest]

Is that the smite skill? My game it’s on spanish and i lost some words meaning at english

[upper sun]

bubble

yes

smite is electricity hands

[languid dragon]

the best cc in the game is to kill them

[solar nest]

Yes that’s true, bosses are my weaknesses

[languid dragon]

if you're going inferno staff you shouldnt be taking smite

wont let you stack soulblaze nor can you use the cc

[solar nest]

Maybe i should use a bolter gun

[languid dragon]

that is also bad

for that set up

[upper sun]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9c39d463-1cc1-4b31-a1e6-6656dbc7f336/firepilled-blazemaxxing-pogchamp

[potent echo]

Huh no it isn't

[upper sun]

i recommend this build

very basd

[nocturne dust]

no, but it'd be funny to see someone try to combo them

[potent echo]

I did

They didn't know how to play sadly, hiding from gunners instead of rushing in

And it's that one map with mid event shooter spam

Archivum sycorax

[nocturne dust]

Hiding from gunners is a valid tactic

Be a coward

[potent echo]

Not for that event lol, they needed to rush the gunner spawn opposite the objective

And keep it held down

[solar nest]

That build looks cool, is the main damage on staff or you use the grenade skill usually??

[nocturne dust]

Hm, well I still don't know the names of maps so idk what event you're talking about

I'll never know the names

[potent echo]

😔

[upper sun]

you use the grenade skill on crushers, bulwarks bosses and reapers elite/disablers in general if theyre too far for your staff

[nocturne dust]

BB should always be a last resort

[solar nest]

nice thanks i'm gonna take a look on that build looks nice

[nocturne dust]

[upper sun]

no??

if you have a reaper too far away what do you do?

or a hound hopping away

[solar nest]

i wish there were included wanted stats on weapons at the build page

[upper sun]

76% burn at least

cloud at 80%

high-high-ish quell

and rest doesnt matter for purge

[nocturne dust]

That qualifies as last resort... if your buddies are too useless to do anything about it.

[upper sun]

they are

every game

[nocturne dust]

wrong

[quartz barn]

Did they break the attack range on dreg ragers?

[upper sun]

yes

[solar nest]

is this damage to low to up this staff to his max ?

[nocturne dust]

Dump stat is warp res

[upper sun]

damage only effects the love tap

[potent echo]

Reapers now press W very rapidly

[quartz barn]

Im getting hit outside of the block range wtf

[upper sun]

you can either dump damage or warp resist

[potent echo]

So you just wait a bit

[nocturne dust]

Damage with blaze away is actually significant on inferno

So don't dump it

[potent echo]

Damage even without blaze away is also not insignificant

[upper sun]

damage on this staff only effects the big stagger yoyu do on left mouse button

its fine

[upper sun]

ehhh

[nocturne dust]

It's 1/3rd of the staff's damage on my runs

[solar nest]

i need a conclussion for this, so at the meantime maybe i should discard warp mitigation velocity?

[upper sun]

it doesnt scale that badly for low damage

[upper sun]

if you wanna build another staff yeah

warp resist is ideal dump

but damage being lowish is alright too

[nocturne dust]

the wat

[solar nest]

i have this one

looks good

[upper sun]

keep it for now

[nocturne dust]

I would only recommend warp resist as a dump.

[upper sun]

theres another build that likes quell speed as a dump stat

[nocturne dust]

and that build is wrong because it's different

[upper sun]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eglQS0WZbM

this is the person that wrote the psyker guide

[nocturne dust]

and?

[solar nest]

confusing aaaaaaaaaaaah i should stay at ogryn there is always bombs pikes and love

[upper sun]

🤓 argument from authority 👆

[nocturne dust]

Not to disparage Pygex, but I don't agree with the guide in lots of places even when it's updated.

[upper sun]

the firsts staff is perfectly fine

ye same

[nocturne dust]

...which is a logical fallacy 🤓

[nocturne dust]

u a logical fallacy?

[upper sun]

i used this for a very long time

[nocturne dust]

I mean, yes, at the end of the day you could probably dump any stat and be fine

[potent echo]

Warp res 80

[nocturne dust]

but also

[potent echo]

How do you creep on CD

[nocturne dust]

HOW DARE YOU

[nocturne dust]

Never quell

[upper sun]

i switched to this tho

[potent echo]

Between engagement peril drops to 0

Takes like 3 casts to reach 100

[nocturne dust]

Acceptable, but careful at that 61%. It borders heresy.

[potent echo]

It's tooooo loopong

[nocturne dust]

If you just hold rmb it's free peril

and also you can use BB

[upper sun]

not if you have EP

[nocturne dust]

If you use EP for BB... I admire your love for BB and hope that it one day gets the buff it deserves

[quartz barn]

Bb is good tho, it just has a limited use case

[nocturne dust]

...and is beaten by literally almost any secondary in most use cases.

[plucky flax]

I only trust Mr unsanctioned

Or he'd beat me up

[quartz barn]

Ye what was your bb dmg vs monsters

[nocturne dust]

or you sacrifice a good chunk of your build just to make it functional.

BB's max boss damage is beaten by a sharp metal pokey stick.

and that's with all the setup required for BB, whereas you just hit the boss in the head/glowing sac with the stick.

[echo root]

Rompebragas

[nocturne dust]

Rant incoming but "BB is good but niche" is, quite frankly, just plain wrong. The only reason to take BB, ever, is because you like it or you're running purgatus which literally leaves you no other option for long range (and assail is out of the way for the build, otherwise you bet I would take assail and just push through far away snipers). I guess you also take it for KF shenanigans, but the thing is KF isn't really BB, you don't need to use BB to use KF (and indeed, trauma with BB literally only uses KF and doesn't want you to ever pull out BB).

[sacred crane]

I will be fr, I dont rlly like empryic resolve since it makes it slower for me to build peril for soulblaze stacks

also the toughness regeneration

[nocturne dust]

I mean, when running purg with ER you definitely have to be mindful of peril and not quelling.

[nocturne dust]

playing around with curios can help

[sacred crane]

me losing all my 4% faster ability, +5 health and toughness and 20% gunner resistance

[nocturne dust]

cdr is not great for psyker on curios

I do recommend +toughness regen and sniper res over health/toughness substats

[pulsar hazel]

i dont think toughness regen is as useful on pskyer compared to other classes tbh

sniper res might be good though i usually never get hit by a sniper even as ogryn

[nocturne dust]

I actually think it's more useful on psyker since it doesn't scale and psyker has low toughness

get back to full faster

[pulsar hazel]

maybe on a gunker but staff builds have so much toughness regen already imho

[zinc phoenix]

Offsetting ER is very important and all staff builds run ER

[nocturne dust]

I don't use gunker

[pulsar hazel]

i still run it though since i pretty much use 5% tgh, 30% tgh regen and gun res on every class

except edge cases

[plucky flax]

CDR on curios

[nocturne dust]

90% toughness regen is super helpful, especially because it also changes how quickly you start regening

[pulsar hazel]

ohh is that true? wow

[nocturne dust]

[plucky flax]

It's extremely good for creeping flames spam (surge and burga)

[pulsar hazel]

i just run it on everything since i mainly play ogryn and maxing it out on ogryn is ridiculous

[nocturne dust]

it's 12% on a class stacked to bursting with cdr in talents

get outta here

[plucky flax]

Huh?

If you don't like it fair enough.

Don't diss it mane.

[zinc phoenix]

You want it cooled down as often as possible

[sacred crane]

i like it because more shriek = more burn

[nocturne dust]

I be dissing.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but opportunity cost.

[plucky flax]

2s per ability off in a 25 mins games. Idk that's like 10 extra ability casts.

[nocturne dust]

There's down time even on auric. No it ain't 10 extra ability casts.

[sacred crane]

also sniper res seems less useful when they are easy to dodge and kill

[zinc phoenix]

Slightly more damage/CC from shriek is worth more to me than any of the defensive curio stats. If you go toughness regen+resists/toughness+CDR on a mix of toughness and HP curios you still have a lot of tank

[nocturne dust]

Everything is easy to dodge when alone.

[nocturne dust]

sure, but you are losing out quite a bit of durability at the same time.

[plucky flax]

If you play like me there's no break.

[nocturne dust]

Elevators.

[plucky flax]

That doesn't take away from all the time it benefits during combat.

[nocturne dust]

I really don't think it benefits that much

It's 2s

[plucky flax]

Timestamped video here going into the mid event. For 5 mins I used creeping flames off cd with the longest break inbetween was less than 5 seconds (doing event)
https://youtu.be/V1QlK0BqYtw?t=224

[nocturne dust]

The game likes to throw lots of small bursts at people. Only the events/big hordes need more than a single shriek.

[plucky flax]

So 5 mins of non stop spamming F not worth it? Fair.

[nocturne dust]

I mean, kind of. Using F off cooldown is the thing to do, but funnily enough this video doesn't really show at all how those extra seconds help in the slightest to me.

Whereas it is very obvious how an extra resist or something of that line can help. Taking sniper bullets to the face.

[plucky flax]

More damage kill things faster.

[nocturne dust]

Sure, but is that damage worth the loss in defense?

I don't think so.

But I play defensively and not aggressively so my bias is plain.

[plucky flax]

[quartz barn]

Aggro > defence

Faster kills = higher ability uptime = carefree run and bored teammates

[hollow jolt]

is damage stacking ever a bad idea?

[quartz barn]

No, as long as you can match killing power to enemy spawn rate you're fine

[hollow jolt]

4 smite psykers 💪

[fleet belfry]

it actually might work lmao

[jovial juniper]

I survived because the dps inside me outdps'd the dps around me

[hollow jolt]

na Nurgle himself will spawn 2 poxwalkers behind each psyker to fuck them up

its literally in the game code, can't convince me otherwise

[summer prairie]

shriek is defensive too, it's near instant max toughness and the stagger is good

[fleet belfry]

Just get the 4 psykers to stand together each taking 90 degrees

And move together to the map

[hollow jolt]

someone makes 3 bot accounts to "solo" clear maps like that UwU

[upper sun]

it does until a boss arrives

[fleet belfry]

true

[upper sun]

there were a few attempts

mine failed

agent and dorn had a nice run

[hollow jolt]

that's why you ask it nicely to leave

[summer prairie]

Also it's 3.6s off, not 2s

[late yew]

I am trying to figure how to do rending recon build...

really need 2 more nods

i suppose i could actually go without keystone?

[fleet belfry]

Probably doesn’t hurt to drop the modifier at least

I like the keystone personally

Also imo the ogryn&boss damage node does more than the 10% rending, just sayin

[upper sun]

sir

this is a vet build

however

tag isnt all that good for recon and its upgrades are kinda mid in general

[hollow jolt]

deadshot on recon is wild

I hope you're packing 3 stam curios

[upper sun]

ye

i pinged the vet guide guy

[late yew]

vet chat is dead

so

[upper sun]

check the vet pins once he fixes the log in on microsoft

[upper sun]

the vet guide is more than enough

[hollow jolt]

I find it funny that vet chat goes dead the most often when its likely the most popular class

[late yew]

probably casuals play it a lot

[hollow jolt]

indeed

[upper sun]

also vet is more fun to build than play

unironically

[hollow jolt]

yeah I find 99% of my deaths are due to specialists and barrels rather than anything else

hard to counter things that just remove your ability to play :p

[late yew]

what is better then

[late yew]

what

what that has to do with vet

[upper sun]

tbh maybe marksmans focus

[fleet belfry]

True

Or just don’t do keystones

[late yew]

I use it on heavy recon b uild