psyker-class

[austere warren]

Back for Blood?

[radiant frigate]

warp resist

on both accounts

[swift prawn]

nice

ty ty

[pulsar hazel]

idek which one is surge anymore because fatshark renamed everything, the electric one?

[swift prawn]

yep, the zapper

[pulsar hazel]

I like high warp resist on trauma and voidstrike depending on what I'm doing, but with surge you kind of just quell tap

surge is fun though, you can slide flick with it better than the rest

I miss when the smite passives applied to it for like two weeks

good old days

[strong gulch]

Warp resist

[swift prawn]

thanks for answers guys 🙂

[radiant frigate]

i do not miss when it would just twoshot crushers because EP decided to do The Funny

[nocturne dust]

you can also dump mobility

on the sword

[jovial juniper]

Yeah
Kino staff

[fringe garden]

The irony of renaming everything for better clarity and it ending up just confusing everyone is the absolute best

[coarse abyss]

How do you guys know which nodes are essential or is it just years of knowledge?

[radiant frigate]

especially since voidblast and voidstrike now exist, and voidstrike is the blastier one, and voidblast is the strikier one

[austere warren]

I can't speak for the spreadsheet nerds but generally speaking, people use stuff like the atheneum and ogrynomicon for a good portion of their info.

Especially for critical context with matching and reproduced information.

[radiant frigate]

knowledge, practice and tinkering

[lethal lagoon]

Blind confidence.

[radiant frigate]

incomparable mind

[austere warren]

Also, some classes like Veteran and Zealot, have a much more linear talent tree to peel through, so decision-making becomes easier over time the more one experiments.

[radiant frigate]

i thinki have looked at the atheneum once

and it was to find out that wildfire sucks ass

[austere warren]

Mhm, I'm just bringing up strong sources type thing.

[upper sun]

learn to cook

everyone needs to know how to cook

bro will never find out the pleasure of making a 6 hour stew for ur friends in the dead of winter

[lethal lagoon]

@split lance I'm ready

[upper sun]

i just clutched a game

[lethal lagoon]

More like clutched deez nuts

[upper sun]

||i ran to the elevator and waited for my ult like a coward in the airlock||

[ripe obsidian]

Better a live coward than a brave corpse

[royal falcon]

that is a lambent gunker from Gears of War 3, which is notorious for its ability to throw damaging masses of.. well, gunk

[radiant frigate]

yes and i do not wish to be associated with this thing

i refuse to be labeled gunker

[ripe obsidian]

Psygun?

[radiant frigate]

no

melee psyker

i just happen to carry a gun for boss damage

[ripe obsidian]

Stabker

[pulsar hazel]

meker

[cosmic sigil]

https://youtu.be/fpSw3gwdF5c?si=R33owqaaW-zr_os1

[pulsar hazel]

shootyker

shooter

[magic kayak]

Psylee

I like melee psyker also though with scriers gaze and a heavy sword

I use the revolver for specialist but frankly its a pretty meme build compared to other options

[radiant frigate]

heavy sword

[magic kayak]

I just did this on auric damnation with illisi and electrocution staff, but I meant to get deflector and slaughterer on illisi but used blazing spirit and shred lol

I think slaughterer just makes illisi wave clear so much better, forgot to change blessings

[cinder dock]

funy magik men i need a build an ogryn can understand

preferably with lotsa fire

[magic kayak]

ogryn use big stick

[cinder dock]

a psykah build sah

[magic kayak]

do you like to shoot lightning, fire, or energy blasts?

[willow hazel]

we also have pointy stick

[magic kayak]

yeah and do you want to stab people, slice people, or smash people lol

[cinder dock]

like fire and the loud noise bowling ball one sah

[magic kayak]

fire one is really strong right now

I use these weapons. Damage on the staff isn't that important since your damage comes from the fire burn, but probably you would want 80 on the staff and less quell speed maybe

This is the tree I'm using

[cinder dock]

thanks sah!

[magic kayak]

no problem

Just remember, the left click burn with the staff has super high stagger, so shoot that a few times at waves of big metal ogryns

[cinder dock]

oooooo

[magic kayak]

use it to make space and then right click burn for the damage

use your shrieking vent when you're over 84% peril to really melt the enemy hordes, it does more damage based on peril and thats the highest break point (over 84% doesn't do more damage)

but dont be afraid to use the shriek in a pinch if you need to make space quick or even on a jumping dog

brain burst is there for monstrosity. use shriek and now your brain burst is way faster and uses only half the peril so you can put some real dmg on them

[radiant frigate]

this would be cool if it did better damage

i was a big enjoyer of that

[buoyant maple]

Brain burst is like 2k unyielding damage lol

It’s not very good

[wind spruce]

Kinetic deflection is irrelevant. The issue isn't that you can't block, it's that you can't push stab at zero stamina.

[glossy escarp]

You regen stamina so quick that the push-stab is accessible practically all the time

[wind spruce]

You push stab, set yourself to zero stamina and then dodge, you can't push stab again immediately.

So when you're dancing crushers etc your flow can get fucked with

[radiant frigate]

never understood what this PA spam meme is about

[wind spruce]

It's fine if you're just standing still

[glossy escarp]

I'm not insane enough to 1v6 crushers just yet haha

Just been using it to finish off a crusher or two if I'm cornered

[radiant frigate]

with DS it's shockingly easy

[wind spruce]

Haha fair, it's fine in that situation

[wind spruce]

Exactly!

[glossy escarp]

Yeah, I can fuck things up with the DS, it just doesn't hit the same for me right now

[radiant frigate]

with other weapons you have to work for it

[wind spruce]

Yeah gotta mix it up

[glossy escarp]

I know myself well enough to switch things up, lest I burn out on the game again

[radiant frigate]

but with ds you look at a crusher pack and just cackle

[glossy escarp]

Would be the 4th time I think

In 540 hours

Deimos with deflector and slaughterer is also pretty fun imo

Far from optimal but blocking bullets with my mind is just so damn cool

[radiant frigate]

it is and it really ought to be a baseline feature

[glossy escarp]

The -30% block cost should be baseline too 👀

[radiant frigate]

projecting a force field with your hand yet it only stops melee

so fucking dumb

[glossy escarp]

👉🏻 👈🏻

[austere warren]

Hands > brain hands.

[ripe obsidian]

Tried it. Went decently. Still lost, but I don't think it was my fault.

[zinc phoenix]

I still don’t love flayer in this build because it’s so random what it gibs

[ripe obsidian]

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of flayer. It was notably helpful once

[zinc phoenix]

Also gibbing a burster when I did a little fire left click thereby yeeting me into the abyss was not my fave 😂

[ripe obsidian]

@lethal lagoon I am not funny enough to be a clown

[lethal lagoon]

What kind of pyschopath finds clowns funny?

[ripe obsidian]

Couldn't say

I dunno, I'm sure Flayer did things that I didn't notice

But overall it just doesn't feel like it's doing much

[zinc phoenix]

I think the issue is what would you do instead

Grab two points from the top right + flayer point and get souldrinker? Seems like a stretch. And for 1pt there’s not a lot better than flayer

[split lance]

Fr. Its all about Jesters

[ripe obsidian]

Tried again, same map. Went better. Largely due to a better team, though

[split lance]

Need KFC

[half turtle]

stab stab stab

[narrow herald]

what is the dump stat for force swords?

[strong gulch]

warp resist

Unless you are doing special spam or something specific. Generally it's WR

[ripe obsidian]

?

The train map seems to have a higher than average density of people not ready for Auric

[sage vigil]

Are warp charges bad on a gaze build?

[lethal lagoon]

No.

It's just typically gaze weapons synergize with DD

[split lance]

With charges you’d just be going for gaze faster right?

[sage vigil]

Was looking at the -peril generation talent but it consumes all charges when I activate gaze so it wouldn't do anything.

[strong gulch]

Unless you get charges back during SG.

I think most people who go down the WC path with SG are angling for ER and since they're already there opt to go into SG.

[cloud heron]

how do people feel about soulblaze vent these days? I feel like making the stacks scale with peril rather than warp charges made it a lot harder to use

[strong gulch]

It's still the top choice.

Unless you're going a more conventional gunker build.

[cloud heron]

top choice for venting shriek you mean? or all blitzes?

[broken carbon]

it’s very strong, based on peril is better too because most builds thrive on high peril, so you’ll usually be pretty high

[broken carbon]

top choice for venting shriek without contest, and for all psyker abilities

except, like potato said, SG on certain builds

[strong gulch]

Most builds are creeping flames. Your other gear and blitz choice have more influence over keystone picks.

[broken carbon]

but shriek is a very safe option that does well on any build that can generate a lot of peril

[strong gulch]

yip

[broken carbon]

ok aang

[royal falcon]

there’s also an argument to be made on telekine shield but

[broken carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/appa-avatar-falling-flying-gif-15595220668305743204

[royal falcon]

that’s more map-dependent than anything I believe

[cloud heron]

Yeah but you specifically need 6 stacks to actually kill all of the horde enemies, right? I feel like you're more likely to cast it at 80% peril and miss the threshold than cast it at 5 warp charges

[royal falcon]

why not just wait to cast it when you start periling

or whatever the hell it’s called

when you’re about to blow up

[cloud heron]

timing

[royal falcon]

timing?

[cloud heron]

I mean if you want to use it offensively than you need to do it when you there's stuff to burn

[strong gulch]

It's not really how it works in missions unless you're stacking TONS of warp resist.

It's also a reason why dumping warp resist is recommended.

[royal falcon]

Now I dunno about dumping warp resistance

[strong gulch]

It's the general recommendation.

You don't have to if that is not your taste.

[nocturne dust]

Dumping warp resist (on weapons) is meta.

Empyric Resolve is, funnily enough, also meta. It is indeed a balancing act of generating enough peril to get shriek all its stacks but also generating as little peril as possible so you don't spend exhorbitant amounts of time quelling.

[strong gulch]

that

[fleet belfry]

Incidentally, earlier tonight a mutie decided to grab me just as I was doing this and was going to use the ability

Was pretty fun ngl but also kinda frustrating

[ripe obsidian]

It's always fun to have a meticulously planned vent, only to get grabbed

[fleet belfry]

True

Ended up wiping and got called out by teammate to uninstall

[ripe obsidian]

Eh. We all fuck up sometimes.

[fleet belfry]

Yeah, I mean I did kind of fuck it up

Still, didn’t feel great

Imma blame it on the trauma staff

[cloud heron]

trauma staff is my son and they have done nothing wrong in their entire life

[fleet belfry]

lmao in that case the blame’s on me

Actually speaking of trauma

Is blaze trauma still a thing?

[cloud heron]

i'm still using it. I dunno what's meta though

[fleet belfry]

I was experimenting with it tonight and results were pretty mixed for me at least

[analog agate]

It’s the only blast build now that anyone can access it.

Hyperbole. But not much

[fleet belfry]

Like I don’t think I crit enough to make enough of an impact with the build

[analog agate]

What is your tree

[fleet belfry]

Ummmm 1 sec Imma recreate it

Something like this, I was experimenting with what nodes to take on the keystone as well as whether to take battle meditation at all

[analog agate]

Yeah. That is one way to build and is fine. I’d do battle meditation to perilous combustion. Here is the “meta” build

[strong gulch]

You need high peril to get the crits from warp nexus. BM + ER + inner tranq is way too much.

[analog agate]

^

Though I run tranq and ER

[fleet belfry]

Yeah I would agree but the staff keeps trying to blow me up otherwise

Maybe I should use venting shriek on cooldown?

[strong gulch]

Quell between blasts.

[lethal lagoon]

Quell inside of blasts

https://tenor.com/view/feel-me-think-about-it-meme-gif-7715402

[fleet belfry]

True

[analog agate]

The rhythm is do 2-3 blasts to high 90s. Quell 2 ticks. Repeat. Shriek above 85-86 peril

[strong gulch]

A cornerstone to both blaze trauma and surge/ electro is shrieking for creeping flames A LOT. The SB stacks from blazing spirit + shriek + PC.

[fleet belfry]

Actually I think it (as in feeling uncomfortable with the peril management) may be partly because I’m not used to the trauma staff

Probably just need to use it more

[fleet belfry]

Gotcha

[analog agate]

Ticks btw are from the mod. You quell to low 60s.

[fleet belfry]

Also one last thing

I kept feeling like I’m not actually killing stuff enough with the trauma staff

[analog agate]

Full blasts is the key. And high peril

[cloud heron]

from what mod?

[analog agate]

Then you get the feeling for when you can do half blasts after a bit

[fleet belfry]

Like if there’s a dense horde Im totally fine but with more scattered enemies I tend to struggle quite a bit

[analog agate]

True Peril

I think there may be an updated version of it though

[strong gulch]

Targeting a single enemy running around can b difficult. You can practice in the meat grinder, but you can also use LMB / primary to kill a single wonder fodder.

[analog agate]

Sword. Or primary fire staff

[fleet belfry]

Ok got it

[wooden flare]

What accent does The Savant voice have?

[fleet belfry]

Thanks guys

[analog agate]

And you just get better at quickly targeting with the circle

[wooden flare]

I thought it was French but now I’m not sure

[strong gulch]

The blast is like a sphere. Knowing that can me managing longer charged shots easier.

[cloud heron]

female savant is french

[wooden flare]

What about male?

[cloud heron]

some kind of african, I think

[wooden flare]

I want to say it’s either Creole or Jamaican

But I feel like that’s wrong

Maybe Nigerian?

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, that's Liliana from Dragon Age

[wooden flare]

The Male Savant voice

Not female

I know the accent

But not where

It’s the same accent Tia Dalma has in PoTC

[cloud heron]

male savant is this guy
https://m.imdb.com/name/nm13863449/?ref_=m_ttfcd_cl17

who's from zimbabwe

[wooden flare]

I like his voice

He should do more video games

[ornate hamlet]

Wait, female savant is Leliana?

[cloud heron]

no

[glossy escarp]

Agreed

[near drift]

I played way too much DA:O and yeah that's not leliana's VA

[restive slate]

Most debate I've seen is on Female Loners voice

Some say Transylvanian, some say Indian haha

[dusk void]

FUCKING FATSHARK NEEDS TO FIX THEIR FUCKING SERVER ISSUES

[wooden flare]

What’s the best stage to do Cliffhanger on?

[plucky flax]

With ovenproof addon for a better breakdown you'll see a significant range damage improvement with flayer. It also acts as another ramp up for soulblaze stacking since it usually triggers pc.

[ripe obsidian]

Which addon? I do have Power DI

[plucky flax]

Then it should breakdown range damage and soulblaze damage separately

[ripe obsidian]

It does.

I suppose I need to dig through logs to see an older purg game

[plucky flax]

Also if you don't like flayer then just put the point elsewhere

[tardy kelp]

anyone got a good solo build literally running a damnation and my zealots are just running off and nobdy is sticking with me

XD

[plucky flax]

Illisi surge smite

[kindred edge]

Yeah, honestly. That's probably the answer.

If you want something different, I would probably build a relatively standard purg psyker with BB/KF and KD.

And DS4 or Deimos

[tardy kelp]

ive got the lighting with smite

and the lighting isn't really useful when people run off

also leving masteries yet so

i don't have proper gear

[kindred edge]

Yeah, in those situations you have to use Smite just to throw enemies away and take advantage of the small time gap where they're standing to get a couple specials dead

[ripe obsidian]

Dunno what I would use instead, honestly. I'll play a few more games and see if I need more defense

[plucky flax]

Warp battery or soulstealer if you don't want kf

[potent echo]

I played one game yesterday, I have no blitz, everyone was drifting

[analog agate]

My solo build. I ignore my teammates and do what I want when I run it. (Riposte instead of thrust on ds iv)

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d1c7c37-2acc-4d60-b975-81f71d2867be/blaze-blast-nuke-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

[unique mist]

what's the comparison of the revolver vs the bolt pistol?

[unique mist]

what are their roles in the Psyker kit?

[tardy kelp]

its pry the fact i need better gear

also havn't played psyker ina bit

feels super glass cannon

[plucky flax]

Bistol is just cooler

So it wins

[unique mist]

bistol has much better reserves than the revolver

it's kinda strange

i'd expect such large rounds to take up more space so you could only hold a few of 'em

[analog agate]

Go with what Agent said for build. It is a cushier build than mine

[unique mist]

but my bistol holds 8 and 80 vs revolver's 5 and 52

i find it kinda hard to aim with the bistol, probably a skill issue, and i think the revolver has better chaff cleave? i don't seem to be able to shoot pinged specials/elites through hordes with the bistol as well as i used to be able to with the revolver

[analog agate]

Revolver is straight up better. It is, arguably, the best gun in the game. Agent was just saying bolt pistol is cooler, therefore he prefers it

[atomic swan]

Bistol does less damage than Zarona revolver but it has more ammo to shoot

and it can be utility tool if you want (Lethal Proximity)

[nocturne dust]

not a skill issue necessarily, bistol (and bolter) has an issue where the aim is wack

It's less bad with the lower recoil but I still see it sometimes

[nocturne dust]

The best gun in the game is called Electrokinetic Staff.

[potent echo]

Recon 12 vs one line of shotgunners

[analog agate]

Back with the EP glitch. Yes

[nocturne dust]

EP glitch?

[solar ocean]

Siblings, does Penetrating Flame apply to charged attacks? What are some good builds for this? I've been experimenting a bit and I like Blaze Away so far.

[nocturne dust]

The BiS after blaze away is nexus, penetrating flame isn't as good but is still good. It does apply on charged attacks, yes.

[analog agate]

It worked with EP. You killed every normal size elite in one shot. And since the staff has “auto aim” you were destroying the entire map of specials/elites before anyone could properly aim

[unique mist]

oh yeah that was ages ago

[solar ocean]

Yeah, I got blaze away/nexus right now

I figured that was it

[unique mist]

i honestly love ball spam electro staff

[nocturne dust]

How dare you

they aren't even balls

they're little bolts

[unique mist]

i love my infinite ammo gun

[solar ocean]

fast moving balls of DEATH

I'm going to say canonically that we are throwing shade at heretics, and it physically hurts them

Broke heretic alert

[unique mist]

it's so nice switching between the staff and melee to clear chaff up close then deal with elites/specials interspersed in the crowd

[nocturne dust]

I don't get why people call staff lmbs balls and soulblaze blue. VOIDSTRIKE RMB IS BALLS, LMBS ARE LINES OR BOLTS, AND SOULBLAZE IS WHITE

[solar ocean]

Soulblaze is a weird color ngl, but it's pretty white-blue

now if it turns pink we're in trouble

[nocturne dust]

No, if it turns red that's a problem according to the medicae servitor

if it turns pink, that means you're blushing

[solar ocean]

honestly kind of wanna use warpfire just to see what happens lmao

turn a horde into a bunch of random enemies or allies

[unique mist]

hey how come i don't see anybody using assail right click

it does more damage, flies faster and further/straighter and is easier/better to aim

[nocturne dust]

People do use it?

Idk what you mean

[unique mist]

like in youtube vids

[lethal lagoon]

@strong gulch Hey wanna darktide and kill?

[unique mist]

i don't see them use it

[lethal lagoon]

[nocturne dust]

Youtubers are dumb

[lethal lagoon]

No u

[nocturne dust]

@plucky flax tell 'em

Youtubers are dumb

[unique mist]

tee hee

i don't see Agent use it either

[lethal lagoon]

@plucky flax Wanna play darktide and kill?

[plucky flax]

It's not even 6 am

[lethal lagoon]

Even better

Morning Chaos

[plucky flax]

I only use it to build peril for creeping flames

It's too slow for me

[unique mist]

also was using Agent's bistol/assail/dd/shriek build and unintentionally got Warp Rider somehow lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Come play

Come on

[plucky flax]

Huh you should have warp rider with it

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

Okay 1 game you carry me while I eat breakfast and drink coffee

[split lance]

ill carry 😈

[lethal lagoon]

Carry deez nuts

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-screaming-bird-ohio-ohio-meme-stan-twitter-gif-8544295570301920260

[plucky flax]

I need 10 mins to make breakfast and coffee though

Bailey in coffee

[nocturne dust]

wats a bailey

[split lance]

alcohol

[nocturne dust]

O, I don't drink as you can tell

[strong gulch]

yes

in a game tho

half done

[solar ocean]

been having a lot of fun with this combo lol

[plucky flax]

It's not.

It's just coffee enhancer.

I am not alcoholic.

[lethal lagoon]

[potent echo]

Me when I lie

[plucky flax]

My altar

[potent echo]

17% of

[solar ocean]

I have never drank alcohol tbh, never will

[potent echo]

Although that one time I tried vodka in a hot latte it was pretty good

[solar ocean]

Coffee is my drug lmao

[plucky flax]

Put bailey in your coffee it'll change your life.

[potent echo]

My region mixes bailey with green tea 🤢

[plucky flax]

Okay that's weird.

Green tea shouldn't be drank with milk.

If it was english tea then yeah I can kind of see it.

Or chai tea.

@split lance @lethal lagoon we waiting for @strong gulch ?

[lethal lagoon]

We can do private

[plucky flax]

Aye I'll play zealot so I can keep up whilst taking afk food break.

Put US East pls.

[lethal lagoon]

Alright we are just going to start, so just join the game

yeah

[stoic vessel]

any1 having problems with the auric storm survivor registering their consecutive wins? its still stuck at 1

[unique jacinth]

are quell speed and warp resist interchangeable as dump stats on voidblast staff

[plucky flax]

Nah only warp resist.

Quell speed is really good.

[potent echo]

Afaik it doesn't count games that you join halfway

[unique mist]

my bad, i meant whatever the penance is where you need to hold 15+ dd stacks for a while

mixed up the names

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah 15 stacks + 10s duration + 3 weakspot stack is real good.

Also do you like bistol now?

I recommend weapon customisation mod to put a reflex sight on it.

[unique mist]

console unfortunately

[plucky flax]

[unique mist]

no weapon model mods for me

[plucky flax]

The aim is still a bit janky.

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

But it's a lot better than pre lock and loaded.

[unique mist]

i'm...adjusting 🤣

used staffs since the update, trying out guns now

i miss so many shots oml

[plucky flax]

Horde clear is ds4 push attack + assail.

And creeping flames.

[unique mist]

yeah intertwining assail with melee is so nice

the problem i'm encountering is i'm unsure how to deal with bulwarks

[fiery stratus]

Agripinaa revolver my beloved

[fiery stratus]

Tbh one of the better strategies is just to wait for them to open up. If you're within melee range, they'll generally try to bump you with shield, then they do a big swing follow-up, which opens them up.

[nocturne dust]

Probably could've popped it in one shot if you used scrier's earlier 👀

[strong gulch]

@plucky flax thanks for the games

[plucky flax]

Wait for it to attack then poke with ds or shoot with bistol.

[plucky flax]

NO THANK YOU

[plucky flax]

Or do it like me and ignore bulwarks. Team will deal with it somehow.

[strong gulch]

when 3 surges are arround, def ignore them

[nocturne dust]

or just use a staff

[plucky flax]

Bistol my love.

[nocturne dust]

"Cast it into the fire. Destroy it!"

[plucky flax]

No

[nocturne dust]

https://tenor.com/view/isildur-legendarium-shout-gif-13508401

[radiant ocean]

Somehow only missing the "Going out with a bang" achievement after a few hundred hours of Darktide gameplay. And now when I am trying to get it to 100% the game, it's like the world decided that I ain't to have it.

[potent echo]

I still don't have 10 malice without downing

[nocturne dust]

It that the one where you kill an elite with a peril explosion?

If so, you should see if Crystalline Will lets you cheat a little with it

[silent wigeon]

Could get a buddy and do a private game

[radiant ocean]

No friends to speak off.

[silent wigeon]

Perhaps lfg

[radiant ocean]

I have considered using the LFG channels for it.

But it alone is kinda.. lame.

Also have that penance where I need to 1v1 a monsosity, so I might do two in one.

[silent wigeon]

Ya people will shoot what you're trying to blow up on

[fiery stratus]

only have to do 50% damage or somthn

used to be 90

[silent wigeon]

Ya psyker stuff got alot easier to complete

Ironically I don't see why the monstrosity one is private now

[potent echo]

Because communication is hard

Unironically

[ashen schooner]

because they were too lazy to change it back to public

[silent wigeon]

Idk I've killed 3 bosses mostly solo with bb in the last week

The zealot one I get

[shut solstice]

I need somenone for private psyker penance

anyone has a spare minute?

[ashen schooner]

se05239 looks like providence has provided for you

knock each other's out

[idle scroll]

what's the deal with crit and soulblaze? I thought inferno staff and blaze tics couldn't crit but the staff has a crit blessing in warp nexus........

[unique mist]

crits on flamers (and anything that applies status) doubles the amount of stacks applied with that hit

[idle scroll]

gotcha, ty. does that count as a crit for talents like Mettle?

[potent echo]

Ye

[idle scroll]

ok that changes things

is crit worth building into if I'm taking deimos, inferno, bb, and all the blaze talents?

[nocturne dust]

purg loves crits

[potent echo]

Empathic evasion inferno is a great combo

[nocturne dust]

nexus is the 2nd best blessing on purg

[idle scroll]

wow would not have thought of that

[potent echo]

I would just pick the talent tree stuff, maybe not gaze though

Depends on how much you love creeping flames

[nocturne dust]

Yeah, no, shriek is better for damage

[potent echo]

Also nexus on staff yea

Shriek is more utility, more control, more "help my whole team is dead"

Gaze is hehehe my scoreboard go up

[unique mist]

empathic evasion my fucking beloved

[nocturne dust]

Shriek's damage comes in hitting more enemies further away and stacking soulblaze for your purg quicker and stacking over purg's limit of 16

[idle scroll]

was only just messing around with it doing accatran/assail/bubble and it felt great. need to work it into more of my builds

[potent echo]

Recon 12 with empathic is stupid lmao

You are just permanent dodging vs any ranged

[idle scroll]

yea dunking on any shooter squad I saw felt pretty excellent

[radiant frigate]

me neither but also i do not play malice

let alone 10 malice in a row

[fiery stratus]

agripinaa revolver still my beloved

[late yew]

I don't know if it actually was you

ALSO GUNKER WITH REVOLVER

[fiery stratus]

same

[late yew]

SHAME

[fiery stratus]

still very dead on with the shots tho so i thought it was satisfying

revolver good

revolver do big honkin boss damage

[plucky flax]

But bistol

[potent echo]

Both

But I'm leaning bistol after the update

[plucky flax]

Join the bistol cult.

I am your leader.

I am using bistol on all 3 human characters it's so nice.

[potent echo]

But you only play sedition 🥹

[plucky flax]

[fiery stratus]

noo bolt pistols too chunky

recoil bad

[quartz barn]

Scoreboard showing me i got 600 crits 1 min into the mission

[potent echo]

[plucky flax]

That's a lot of shooting

[upper sun]

i only like branx out of all the new weapons tbh

[quartz barn]

Clear rate is still low with that setup because the team always cowers from my gunfire and will all focus the back....

Then i run out of ammo and everyone goes down

[radiant frigate]

what if you do not hit the noggin

[fiery stratus]

i shoot at bodies a lot with the hipfire one

im lazy

[upper sun]

try again

[fiery stratus]

ah i didnt see the message reply

yes just keep pumping rounds until death

some hit some dont

Ofc i try my best

[radiant frigate]

is it still big damage though

[fiery stratus]

reasonable i think

doesnt do like 2-3k per shot like normal but still something

the crits be poppin tho, they hit like a truck

@radiant frigate

[radiant frigate]

curious

exactly how weakened is weakened

[fiery stratus]

they have like 12-18k hp i think

I should turn healthbars on for nurgle, only one thats not

I did an 8k damage shot on a plague ogryn earlier, to the head granted

[late yew]

most damage was done by Zealot

probably had t-hammer

you can hear him ulting

I think

or was he far away

[radiant frigate]

it is kind of hard to see what's happening on the other end of bonbon

[fiery stratus]

I think he hit it literally the exact same time as the first shot

[quartz barn]

Shouldve checked monster dmg

[fiery stratus]

i wasnt paying attention up to that point anyway

Need healthbars on for it

[radiant frigate]

i think i will stick with laspistol after psykhanium testing

[quartz barn]

Idk if monster spawner can spawn monsters, otherwise you can test in psyk

[cosmic sigil]

1s before actually

[fiery stratus]

not even

1 frame

[cosmic sigil]

maybe less

[quartz barn]

Ye shall fall

[cosmic sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-warm-hug-depressed-hug-gif-4585064738068342394

[fiery stratus]

does around 1400ish on a normal shot with scriers to plague ogryn head, then about 2400ish on crit

notable tho it crits like every other shot with my build

[radiant frigate]

still i do not think it can kill bonbon from the front without expending all ammo

[fiery stratus]

ive carried monsterous special games with it before, its not that bad tbh

hit headshots, save ur ammo and use assail

[late yew]

of course it can

[fiery stratus]

whats good for the bolt pistol?

[quartz barn]

Ok nice, i barely do psyk stuff so didnt know

[edgy heart]

UHHH

[nocturne dust]

They're helping

[fiery stratus]

im telling the emperor

[half turtle]

bolt pistol rounds

[potent echo]

You can go full finesse and do surgical/DA

With DD stacks, you can oneshot ragers and it feels good

Maybe not gaze, it doesn't synergise too well because you probably only get 8 shots per gaze

[austere warren]

🙂

They're a reject. Doesn't matter if the inquisition says otherwise. Just a lil' guy, don't worry.

[austere warren]

Is there a crit chance cap for psykers?

Thinking of setting up something.

[jovial juniper]

The cap is 100

Plus psyker has the highest base crit

7.5% iirc

[mystic pike]

Oi how would you psykers like it if you had a talent that lets you go over 100% peril at the cost of HP but you’re damage increases by 30%

[left mirage]

that would just break the game

you'd stack it with warp rider

[echo root]

Psyker already busted

[left mirage]

and get 50%

[echo root]

No need for buffs

[left mirage]

yeah

[jovial juniper]

It would probably have some bizarre interaction with Unbound

💀

[left mirage]

anyway, was gonna ask, does anyone else feel like voidstrike's secondary is just kinda shit? after trying surge electrokinetic staff i cant bring myself to use it anymore

[jovial juniper]

It's not shit

I'll tell you that

[left mirage]

being given ranged cleave and the +warp on left click nodes were all it needed to go nuts

i guess

[mossy oyster]

voidstrike cleave harder-er

[left mirage]

it just feels weaker than surge electrokinetic

yeah but you dont need that much fuckin cleave ngl

[jovial juniper]

The charge rate on the secondary is definitely slow

[mossy oyster]

never enough

[left mirage]

i guess

[jovial juniper]

Other than that it hits hard

[left mirage]

if i need more hordeclear i just go illisi lmao

or voidblast my feet

but electrokinetic goes crazy now

[echo root]

Is voidstrike the one on the ground or the ball?

[left mirage]

ball

[mossy oyster]

🎳

[left mirage]

still satisfying but

[echo root]

Ball feels underwhelming compared to other options.

[left mirage]

yeah

[fleet belfry]

Now that someone mentioned trauma

How do you use if effectively

[mossy oyster]

voidstrike = 🎳
voidblast(trauma) = 💥

[echo root]

It's fun af with surge, but honestly it feels like the weakest one.

[fleet belfry]

Shockwave or soul blaze?

[mystic pike]

You do know right that cost of hp only drains faster the higher your peril is over 100%

[left mirage]

i do the funny and run both

[echo root]

I do shockwave on mine

[mystic pike]

Just saying that talent would be a double edge sword

[fleet belfry]

How does that even work

[left mirage]

flurry + shockwave / nexus + blaze is the usual tho

[fleet belfry]

Genuinely curious

[left mirage]

imma be honest, i have no idea

i just grab the crit shit and soulblaze

[jovial juniper]

Blaze

[left mirage]

and the rending talent

[fleet belfry]

Actually thinking about it, you probably can take the 5 weak spot guarantees a crit node

And do some funny shit with guaranteed crits on ur trauma

[left mirage]

nah i just spam right click

unless you're willing to give up wildfire

which i aint

[fleet belfry]

I imagine spam rmb and use venting shriek for added stacks?

[jovial juniper]

Or Scrier's for more crit chance

[fleet belfry]

I’m too afraid of blowing my sorry ass up for that atm

[tardy fable]

Anyone around to help me with build im trash at knoweing what blessings and talents to use

[jovial juniper]

Well Scrier's have a safety net of 1.5 seconds after reaching 100 peril

The alternative is unbound

But you'll most likely lose the extra 20% crit chance by then

[fleet belfry]

True

[left mirage]

does warpsplitting work on voidblast secondary?

id assume no right

[fleet belfry]

What is warpsplitting

[jovial juniper]

Extra cleave scaling with peril

100% cleave at max peril

[fleet belfry]

Ahh thanks

I’m stupid today

[jovial juniper]

Blast and Inferno have infinite cleave basically

No real need of Warp Splitting

And well

[timid storm]

inferno staff best staff

[jovial juniper]

You'd probably bring something with single target damage

So extra cleave on that melee would be optional

[fleet belfry]

Wait does the extra cleave work on assail

[echo root]

A fellow glue sniffer.

[jovial juniper]

It does which is weird

[fleet belfry]

[jovial juniper]

Pair with EP

[fleet belfry]

I NEED to try this

[jovial juniper]

Yeah it's a weird interaction

[left mirage]

its cleave, not melee cleave so id assume it applies to ranged cleave too

[jovial juniper]

Since the shards are supposed to disappear after 2-3 targets hit

4-6 if empowered by EP

[jovial juniper]

Oh yeah the node doesn't specify
So the rule of thumb is that it works for melee and ranged

Like zealots duelist and hammer of faith

Vets precision strikes

Ogryns pacemaker

Hard knocks as well

There should be a couple more but I don't remember atm

[broken carbon]

rule of thumb for what

[jovial juniper]

Talents not specifying if they only work for melee or ranged usually works for both

[broken carbon]

ohg

yah

[jovial juniper]

Which I must say
Most of the Gunlugger talents don't work on GG's special attack

Because it's considered as heavy melee

[pulsar hazel]

voidstrike is which one again since they keep fucking renaming them

[jovial juniper]

https://tenor.com/view/yakuza-kazuma-kiryu-pissed-off-gif-14586175

[pulsar hazel]

is it the infinte ammo plasma gun

[fleet belfry]

Trauma

[pulsar hazel]

traumaforce is great

i get why you'd not like it because its something you gotta learn and also get a good staff for

[runic juniper]

grenade gauntlet is so sad. I just keep forgetting it exists every update before realizing its still shit

[jovial juniper]

Lmao

[fleet belfry]

I want to like it so much

But I kept having trouble actually killing shit with it

[pulsar hazel]

the trick to trauma is that soulblaze is a meme and rending + flurry is a lot more reliable. you can basically use your staff the entire game since you can always stomp your feet to get buggers off you, so combat knife is nice for mobility

[runic juniper]

buffed its melee to actually be comparable to melee weapons, nerfed it because 'you're supposed to rely on your melee (????)'

[pulsar hazel]

you can run flame shout for better horde-clear or bubble to basically be unkillable

im gonna get hate for putting down the critblaze trauma but its really not all that

[fleet belfry]

True, my main problem so far is that while it’s great against hordes and at keeping myself safe, at times I feel like it does fuckall against elites, especially when they’re scattered

[pulsar hazel]

rending blessing lets you absolutely shred elites

[fleet belfry]

Also sooooo hard to reliably land elite or specialist kills to feed warp charges

[pulsar hazel]

let me hop on my psyker rq and show you my build

[fleet belfry]

Hmmmm okay, guess I should switch back

[fleet belfry]

Thanks

[pulsar hazel]

traumaforce (when you go rending+flurry) actually doesnt want low warp resistance like almost every other staff btw

so that might also be kicking you in the dick

wait you mean voidblast (traumaforce) or voidstrike (rocket launcher)

because they keep renaming this shit

[fleet belfry]

Trauma

[pulsar hazel]

okay okay :D

[pulsar hazel]

well i'll be damned my one does have warp res as dump anyway

😭

i wonder what might be better, cus AOE probably won't suffer too much if you dip it

shrug

[fleet belfry]

So with shockwave I guess you still want some of the soul blaze talents to burn stuff on for example elite kill?

I’m using quelling speed as dump rn, I keep feeling like trauma generate peril way too fast for comfort for whatever reason

[pulsar hazel]

with how dense elites can be on auric its always worth running

[fleet belfry]

So 80 resistance for me

[pulsar hazel]

smart yea

lemme make a gameslantern for u

[fleet belfry]

Thanks!

I was experimenting with this and blaze trauma yesterday

Turns out -40% peril isn’t actually that helpful

[analog agate]

For blast staff:

Having 80 warp res will get you a small blast extra staying in the sweet spot of high peril. Taking 80 quell speed makes it 2 ticks vs 3 ticks quelling. Equivalent to about 0.4-0.5 sec

[pulsar hazel]

blaze trauma doesn't benefit much from -40% yea

[analog agate]

Yes it does

[pulsar hazel]

not really?

not as much as flurry staves

[analog agate]

Besides my build it allows you to skip inner tranq. So gives you an extra node somewhere else

This is the meta blaze blaze build now

[pulsar hazel]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9d4262a7-23b1-40ba-8527-38aaef4ead58/blargh
anyway I run this with traumaforce. yes i stack inner tranq with empyric resolve. you can definitely go without it but I like to have the most uptime possible and you pretty much never get hit with while using traumaforce anyway.

[analog agate]

To be clear though… both ER and rending are kinda meh overall on it. BUT ER at least helps you somewhat

[fleet belfry]

Hmm thanks, does Kinectic flayer actually make a difference with trauma?

I take it for infernos but that does damage in ticks so triggers it really fast

[analog agate]

Now that it works correctly yeah. But, if you find you still need more protection using kinetic deflection instead

[fleet belfry]

Thanks o7

[fleet belfry]

Gotcha

[pulsar hazel]

not saying it's optimal or meta, just what I use, I tend to adjust my builds to my liking after a few aurics

i suggest you do too, not everything is gospel

[analog agate]

I use inner tranq and er as well on my blast build. I don’t spam shriek quite as much but it allows me to control specials more. Allowing for more solo play and clutches

[fleet belfry]

Yeah I’m in the process of figuring out the trauma

[pulsar hazel]

its nice for maintaining warp flurry longer giving you a lot more uptime

[fleet belfry]

Actually been doing that for ages, can’t seem to find a sweetspot before the latest patch, and after the patch I was busy trying out soul blaze trauma

[left mirage]

ball / unli plas

[pulsar hazel]

yea they just made a typo and meant traumaforce

[left mirage]

tried surge electro and cant go back

was using the new names

but ye

voidblast is the floor explosion

voidstrike is ball

[pulsar hazel]

thanks GW

[fleet belfry]

It’s good to the point of not actually making sense

[left mirage]

yeah

[fleet belfry]

Literally lmb everything

[left mirage]

on the one hand i feel like the cleave node and the +warp on staff normal are really nice for every other build

[pulsar hazel]

if yall havent tried it voidstrike with a no ability build stacking and keeping buffs from warp siphon is stinky strong

[left mirage]

but on electro staff its just nuts

[pulsar hazel]

surge and nexus

[plucky flax]

Huh

[pulsar hazel]

just my personal opinion, I get why people use it but I am a blaze truther

[left mirage]

surge electro lets you lmb anything that isnt an ogryn, then you rightclick those instead

[fleet belfry]

Yeah voidstrike is good fun too

[left mirage]

even the boss damage on lmb spam is decent

boggles the mind

[fleet belfry]

I took the hit adds warp damage node so I lmb about 5 times and do rmb

[left mirage]

i just run empowered psyk assail for gunner hordes / oh shit button

[fleet belfry]

Usually one full charge deletes a crusher

[pulsar hazel]

laughing at vet mains drooling over buffed plasma when voidstrike is still busted after multiple nerfs

[left mirage]

ye

[left mirage]

did they nerf the projectile speed

just got back after a long hiatus

[pulsar hazel]

they nerfed cara damage I think

used to be able to one tap crushers

[left mirage]

ahh, i see

doesnt matter since you can still stagger

well, it matters soemtimes

[pulsar hazel]

yeah you still kill them stinky fast with surge

[plucky flax]

Based rending user

[fleet belfry]

Slightly less fun when ur kill gets taken away because the purple orb flys at roughly the speed of a nurgling

[pulsar hazel]

thank the emperor I thought I was about to get another death threat from a blaze user

😭

[plucky flax]

I play blaze trauma personally but the staff is mid anyway.

[left mirage]

scrier's heavy laspistol and surge electro + shield are unironically the two strongest psyker builds i think

[analog agate]

So rare nowadays. Our little Dodos

[left mirage]

trauma is a close third

[plucky flax]

Me I am bistol gigachad

Or Faceroll with surge xd

[left mirage]

you just scriers and magdump the boss / crusher patrol

[pulsar hazel]

I don't play psyker often but when I do I warp siphon stack voidstrike and delete everything

crazy what +24% damage does to it

[plucky flax]

I might try rending trauma once. Might

[left mirage]

rending soulblaze trauma is the only trauma

i will accept no substitutes

[pulsar hazel]

I wish that actually worked 😭

I guess with gaze

[plucky flax]

I am not that good to combine both

[left mirage]

it works if you're stupid enough

[frozen loom]

how bad is this for braindead lmb spam

[left mirage]

and my IQ is firmly in the double digits

[plucky flax]

Surge left click?

[frozen loom]

oui

[pulsar hazel]

surge has busted M1 for some reason

well probably to give it some versitility

[plucky flax]

I suggest you go creeping flames or gazer instead.

[analog agate]

Does electro lmb not want left side?

[plucky flax]

I've tried both gazer dd and creeping flames warp charges.

I prefer the latter for balls spam

[echo root]

You want this for lmb spam

[plucky flax]

Since gazer is still a bit buggy and can kill you with warp unbound

[pulsar hazel]

I hope we get a psyker staff thats just a big ass laser like void fiend from ror2 has

[left mirage]

this is what i use

[analog agate]

So. Beam staff

[frozen loom]

isn't PotS broken?

[plucky flax]

Huh ep assail surge left click spam

Certainly a strange build

[left mirage]

yeah

EP assail is my anti gunner / sgunner setup

[frozen loom]

but aren't you lmb-ing anyway?

[left mirage]

surge handles everything else

sometimes there's a horde of gunners setup horizontally and i cant spam all of them before hopping into cover

so i just bust out the needles

[frozen loom]

psyker tree is so oddly greedy ngl
with empyric shock and warp splitting in odd branches

[left mirage]

psyker is one nodeswap away from being busted

swap wildfire with mind in motion

[jovial juniper]

Soul drinker 🗣️

[left mirage]

wildfire is where it is specifically to force you to use brainburst

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/bust-a-move-young-mc-hip-hop-rap-80s-music-gif-17697791

[left mirage]

which is pain

[echo root]

We already have bubble shield and rockets (assail) from Engineer

[frozen loom]

god I'm warp splitting pilled
I need to break away

[left mirage]

No

[jovial juniper]

Ooh you want to pair it with Savage Sweep

Hmmm yes

Chainsword dclaw time

[frozen loom]

I can't fit both empyrian shock and warp splitting in the lmb surge staff

[mossy oyster]

(without a keystone you could)

😈

[jovial juniper]

Surge staff WS is only good on the bashes

[mossy oyster]

make lightning cleave

https://tenor.com/view/thunder-carti-gif-20682190

[frozen loom]

i wish

[jovial juniper]

Charged Strike bash

[left mirage]

Doesnt warp splitting buff the lmb for electro

Or am i high

[frozen loom]

it does, but i'm wondering if it's worth vs ES

[jovial juniper]

0.25 cleave becomes 0.5

[left mirage]

Is that enough to do anything

[frozen loom]

... know what yea I should have checked the cleave value on the staff

... where do i find that lmao

[left mirage]

If it isnt ill swap off it for smth else

[jovial juniper]

https://dt.wartide.net/calc/

Keep in mind they are still using old names

[quartz barn]

What does cleave even do on surge?

[jovial juniper]

Plus some stuff is calculated differently in-game that doesn't show on that calculator

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

shoutouts to the people willing to become numbers nerds

[frozen loom]

know what, more than three people said the lmb cleave is shit so I'll take their word for it

oh i see now. the numbers in parentheses are the cleave values

[jovial juniper]

Well on a technicality I just collect info and spread around

[formal harness]

my body is a machine that turns "info" into "fake news"

[frozen loom]

so I'm seeing warp splitting as exclusively a gunker / Voidstrike kind of deal

[formal harness]

i love spreading misinformation on the internet

[plucky flax]

Spreading misinformation is sanctioned in the imperium

[jovial juniper]

Sometimes spreading info is never knowing the name of those that did the math/code diving

[frozen loom]

i assume lmb surge perks are flak crit%?

[potent echo]

any build that uses assail should pick it honestly

[frozen loom]

hmmm interesting

[mossy oyster]

warp splitting saves you talent money

because it does what the cleave assail node does

(but for everything)

[frozen loom]

today i keep learning

[haughty star]

Why not both?

[mossy oyster]

points can be used on other stuff id rather have

4 gunker

[haughty star]

I've been doing this lately to run a shield and it's fun

With recon and I'm on the fence about ds4 vs deimos for it

Deimos is better horde clear but more work

[quartz barn]

Not having scriers with recon is a pretty big downgrade tho

[haughty star]

not really. recon is hella strong and the value of the toughness regen from bubble on objective points is pretty huge

i mean obviously recon would be more powerful with scriers but dd amps it up more than enough imo

[ripe obsidian]

"Also note that the power level buff provided by Combat Stimm increases the cleave of Assail's projectiles even further, reducing the requirements for all breakpoints and allowing to hit up to 13 targets with Ethereal Shards, Empowered Psionics and Warp Splitting above 90% peril."

More cleave more better.

[jovial juniper]

Another day
Another Assail still strong

[upper sun]

maaaan

power creep is so bad now

trauma is the most balanced staff

[tired estuary]

thats nice can we delete it anyways

[shrewd spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/ascending-heaven-keanu-reeves-constantine-ascending-to-heaven-gif-11437079898090715826

me upon learning this information

[flat shadow]

Me tonight after I hit the family of 4 while speeding though a red light

[haughty star]

so yes both

[upper sun]

delete urself

[tired estuary]

Bring back the absurd trauma peril costs from launch or smth

[sacred crane]

Does anyone use EP anymore?

[tired estuary]

Yes

[upper sun]

ye

ep is comfy

[weary crane]

Can someone send what max level duel sword looks like

I doubt it will be better than default mk 4

[upper sun]

dump either mobility or cleave
carapace
maniac/unyielding
uncanny+relentless/thrust+precog

or do you mean a video of it in action

[weary crane]

Oh no I mean the skin lol

[upper sun]

ahhhh the red thing

[verbal thistle]

its red

[upper sun]

i dont have the game running rn

[mossy oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/candy-canes-christmas-dance-gif-12968699

[weary crane]

Although, if duel sword had first target instead of cleave it would be best weapon fr

[mossy oyster]

they should have made it red/white

like knife

bigger candy cane

[upper sun]

the max level skins look so GOOFY

[weary crane]

Oh thats not bad

[analog agate]

It's all christmas down here

[weary crane]

I just really like the inscription in the default skin

[thorn cedar]

i like the double barrel. not the colours necessarily but the model

[mossy oyster]

they re-glued the barrels back on

it was sawed off b4

[weary crane]

The staffs are candy canes

[mossy oyster]

long barrel placebo

better snipes

[thorn cedar]

ye looks nice tho

[upper sun]

the skin should have less spread

[mossy oyster]

it looks great

real doom super shotgun now

[weary crane]

got this on zealot

fury dash + heavy = stupid damage

[jovial juniper]

It looks good with the red trinket you unlock on the pass

[wooden flare]

What mission do I need to do to get Cliffhanger done

[verbal thistle]

chasm log.

[jovial juniper]

Vigil Station Oblivium

(good place at the very end)

[verbal thistle]

chasm log has it at the very beginning

[inland flower]

warp res or dmg as dump on purg?

[upper sun]

peak

zealot already has good mobility

and the clear on ds4 is disgusting imo you cant afford to dump it

[wooden flare]

Got it done

Coincidentally I got all the For the Emperor ones done too

it was that one penance stopping me

Nvm, forgot Malleus Monstronum exists lmao

[upper sun]

wanna do it

[timid storm]

what does right click on assail do? is it just a target, or does it do more dmg/less targets pierced etc?

[left basin]

when you press rmb, the psyker starts to feel freaky and grabs a phallic warp object for optimal freak

[crisp yacht]

It goes faster and will hit even if you look away after throwing it.

[fresh reef]

Does more damage too

[late sapphire]

More damage, about 70% more according to the atheneum... more perils cost (25 vs 10%), same number of targets too

It locks on to the target so if you do a lil hop and toss it upwards it's an almost guaranteed headshot too

[steel flame]

alrighty, finally got 3 classes to 30, now its just ogryn

it only too me......1400 hours

[zinc phoenix]

Now do all their penances

[steel flame]

god i hate penances

and i dont have ds to power level ogryn with like i did with zealot

ugh

[prime elk]

Ogryn is the easiest at least

But also the most boring lol

[steel flame]

i cant stand playing ogryn

[plucky flax]

Yeah it sucks bad.

[prime elk]

Lugger can be funny but yeah

[upper sun]

ogryn is fine

vet sucks

[prime elk]

You suck

[upper sun]

ogryn

is

fine

[heavy bane]

yo what's a good statblocks for our stuff

[upper sun]

what stuff?

staves?

[heavy bane]

specifically force sword/combat knife/dueling sword/staves/recon lasgun/bold pistol lol

[upper sun]

voidSTRIKE= low blast radius high everything else
smite staff(surge)((elektromosh)= warp res dump
voidBLAST=warp resist dump
purge(firestaff)=damage or warp resist or quell as dump based on the build(burn and cloud always high)
mobility or/and warp resist dump on most melee

boltpistol everything is a dump except damage

[jovial juniper]

My Unstoppable Force Cleaver 6 reaction

[austere warren]

Just don't think about it and the penances just fall into place

Ez

[jovial juniper]

(Cleaver 6 is probably the worst cleaver)

[austere warren]

The strike down light starter that will actually drop carapace and ragers?

[jovial juniper]

Light starter is probably the cleaver 4

Stab stab overhead

Cleaver 6 is the one with both heavies sweep

The blessing Unstoppable Force ignores the carapace blocking cleave

On heavies, no need to charge

[prime saddle]

can someone explain what im missing here - it seems like psyker deals similar damage to the other 3 classes but is significantly more fragile?

[jovial juniper]

Brain off gameplay

[zinc phoenix]

Wow bro just calling us out like that 😞

[jovial juniper]

Psykers get to deal tons of damage at every range but more fragile

[prime saddle]

ive played psyker the most and i just feel like i do better on the other classes still

im lv110 on psyker 60 on zealot and 30 on the others

but i feel like i do less damage on a psyker or at least only comparable dmg but then 1 random poxwalker hits me and im on 1hp

[jovial juniper]

That's the problem
You're getting hit

[analog agate]

Just don’t get hit

[prime saddle]

yea but how are you supposed to get hit by literally nothing in a horde game?

[jovial juniper]

Dodge

But fr

Other classes can afford getting hit once or twice

Psykers can if you build for it

But you don't build for tank when you can kill everything at every range instead

[prime saddle]

can you give me an example build?

[jovial juniper]

Here's a build with lots of TDR

8 points left

You can go Warp Syphon for more Scrier's spam

[prime saddle]

what about maximum output though?

[jovial juniper]

Or DD and lean into crits

[jovial juniper]

I would need to know if you prefer staff and what staff or gun

[prime saddle]

how about the voidstrike staff or bolt pistol?

[jovial juniper]

Voidstrike
Just bring a melee like the Illisi for hordes (or use Assail)

You could drop One with the Warp for Ethereal Shards

[plucky flax]

1.3k melee kills in 27mins. P sword balance

[jovial juniper]

Oh and I don't have a picture of a god roll voidstrike
But it usually has Nexus and Surge as blessing

[plucky flax]

Bistol is really good.

I stack hp to be tanky on psyker.

And I do the most damage on psyker by far it's not even fair.

[flint aspen]

what the kark is this mastery skin for the laspistol

[glossy escarp]

You can play chess while you're shooting heretics

[zinc phoenix]

Laspistol is definitely more of a checkers gun

[lethal lagoon]

You are waving the checkered flag because the heretics are finished...

[sweet beacon]

very cool emotes

you should post more I think

[radiant frigate]

orky kamouflage

most mastery skins kinda suck imo

[vast scroll]

is there a guide for the psyker for a newbie? i found one in the sticky... but it reference talnts that don't even seem to be on the tree any longer

[potent maple]

Any good gun Psyker builds ?

[radiant frigate]

depends on which way you want to swing it

ranged focus? melee focus?

[vast scroll]

i prefer ranged if that's possible

[radiant frigate]

if leveling it is recommended to just pick up various toughness talents and get assail asap

[vast scroll]

yeah i'mm level 7 atm

[radiant frigate]

i would recommend something like this in that case

assail basically says "kill things in this general direction"

remember not to cast when peril reaches 100%

[vast scroll]

yeah i used it on my last mission... seems to work really well

[radiant frigate]

assail is pretty flexible in terms of what you can combine it with

[austere warren]

It works well across just about every level really. The higher you go you'll have to play with that in mind.

[radiant frigate]

i still run assail

or rather, again

i use it as a replacer for my ranged weapon most of the time

[brazen rampart]

Assail is the only real blitz.

[radiant frigate]

headsplosion slander

[brazen rampart]

The others are pathing fodder or sm*te.

[split lance]

KF my beloved

[vast scroll]

do y'all use a force staff or a gun? specifically while leveling?