KD is a crutch for stinky people
#psyker-class
plucky flax
Based meta.
lethal lagoon
Oh jokes aside, kinetic flayer is OP as fuck atm
nocturne dust
KD is a crutch for stinky people
Tell that to me surviving two twins trying to take my lunch money and a certain someone else getting put in timeout 
lethal lagoon
Tell that to me surviving two twins trying to take my lunch money and a certain ...
I still did the most damage
zinc phoenix
Oh jokes aside, kinetic flayer is OP as fuck atm
I’ve tried it and rate it ok
split lance
this one would just be a regular smite surge build then wouldnt it be
nocturne dust
<:Madge:792202462844813374> I still did the most damage
Damage is a dump stat 
split lance
I’ve tried it and rate it ok
you have to be somewhat good to get the full effect of KF
zinc phoenix
😂
plucky flax
you have to be somewhat good to get the full effect of KF
Not me.
split lance
lemme guess you prefer normal surge
split lance
ya know
zinc phoenix
I prefer not blowing the point on KF 🤷♀️ there’s more useful stuff
zinc phoenix
This is funny after people giving me shit this morning for saying KD wasn’t good with trauma
split lance
sorry but your not really worth listening too, so what you say kinda dissipates quickly
zinc phoenix
Heresy is honestly very funny
split lance
I mean there are less use cases for KD when you are running trauma.
aim floor
never look up
works pretty well
lethal lagoon
You still have bosses, but just treat them like souls bosses.
zinc phoenix
Bosses and rager packs that spawn on you
split lance
youve seen me play souls games
zinc phoenix
That’s all I could think of that would benefit from KD with trauma
split lance
i play them all like sekiro
lethal lagoon
If Sekiro was one of the random NPCs you kill in the tutorial
Then I agree with you
sacred crane
I'm running two toughness and one health
should i switch one out for this?
and if so, which one
nocturne dust
I run 1 health/tough/stam
but only for parry builds
I don't need stamina really otherwise
nocturne dust
I don't run. I jog.
that's why you're bad at the game 
plucky flax
If I don't rear check every 5s I get surprised overhead.
Dem big bois be sneaky and quiet.
nocturne dust
Me getting sniper shotted from the side because that's the one angle you won't see it 
Sniper laser being powerful enough to poke through your head is funny
radiant frigate
Me getting sniper shotted from the side because that's the one angle you won't s...
me getting sniped because it was targetting someone else and i got no audio cue because of it
nocturne dust
Imagine being able to dodge from the audio cue
broken carbon
Imagine being able to dodge from the audio cue
imagine not being able to
upper sun
make a thread
nocturne dust
imagine not being able to
I can do it 50% of the time. I either do it or I don't.
upper sun
me like forceswords plz add more
nocturne dust
me like forceswords plz add more
FORCE DEVIL'S CLAW
radiant frigate
me like forceswords plz add more
more force powered heretic slicing instruments of various sizes please
radiant frigate
plus, we have sword, we have dagger, yet sword and dagger is nowhere to be seen
curious!
radiant frigate
Force javelin <:pogryn:961977701533614130>
voidstrike...
mental rock
Duelling sword+offhand parrying knife 
nocturne dust
voidstrike...
It's not the same 😔
radiant frigate
yes very true
it is not the same if you do not have the funny throw like on bolt staff
nocturne dust
I want to throw a long and pointy stick at my enemies
and pin them to walls
Lawd I hope Fatshark just gets the go-ahead to add all the random stupid weapons to the game.
patent mango
dual force swords
radiant frigate
dual force swords
illisi deimos combo
dusk void
Freaking internet lag lmao
patent mango
clearly they should nerf ds and give psykers force ds to compensate
split lance
Freaking internet lag lmao
im taking a break
dusk void
im taking a break
I'm gonna apologize to the Columbian girl
nocturne dust
clearly they should nerf ds and give psykers force ds to compensate
the special soulblazes now 
It'd be hilarious if it just applied 30 stacks of soublaze for no reason
patent mango
costs 50% peril to apply 30 soulblaze
radiant frigate
It'd be hilarious if it just applied 30 stacks of soublaze for no reason
boss damage ✅
slate oasis
anybody know if there's a mod that lets you setup different keybinds for each class?
left basin
does anyone use charged strike
jovial juniper
Critmaxing with this one
radiant frigate
patent mango
does anyone use charged strike
it felt terrible to me so i stopped using it
split lance
Using melee to quell is upsetting me
radiant frigate
does anyone use charged strike
worthless
patent mango
idk if charged strike has any use
even with shock maul meme build it felt bad sadly
strong gulch
Shocky bleedy knife
left basin
sometimes i wonder if they have a shitty gan making additions to the tree
nocturne dust
idk if charged strike has any use
it doesn't
radiant frigate
Shocky bleedy knife
shocking amounts of blood
patent mango
idk what they were thinking with charged strike
maybe they just thought it looks cool and forgor to make it usable...
left basin
GIVE TRUE AIM BACKKKKKKKK AAAAAAAAAAAAA
jovial juniper
Think Lawby special can proc it
left basin
MAKE TRUE AIM ONLY WORK ON VOIDSTRIKE I JUST NEED TO VOID MORE STRIKES
jovial juniper
Needs more testing though
nocturne dust
sometimes i wonder if they have a shitty gan making additions to the tree
New Update: Assail new node that gives guaranteed crit once every 5 weakspot hits
upper sun
MAKE TRUE AIM ONLY WORK ON VOIDSTRIKE I JUST NEED TO VOID MORE STRIKES
we got +5 crit on surge
its ok
you still will crit every attack
nocturne dust
we got +5 crit on surge
😭
nocturne dust
you still will crit every attack
😭
nocturne dust
The odds are not in my favor
left basin
that and make headshots make sense on it while you're at it
and thrust.
thrust on void please.
karmic finch
thrust on void please.
Poke poke poke poke
Should be a melee focused blessing for staves
strong gulch
thrust on void please.
It would somehow only work on staff bonks.
ha same thought
similar
low vault
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left basin
Cringe
ornate hamlet
- Guaranteed crit blessing with crit chance perk
- Weakspot quell on class with busted weakspot quell talent
I too take the worst path possible
broken carbon
fresh reef
they were playing smite too, as is custom
far from the worst smite user I've seen though
fresh reef
he joined more than halfway through the map tbf
left basin
i do gorillion damage on zealod
left basin
<a:SadgeCry:927346529725976586>
kaos
slate oasis
I don't mean to sound toxic when I say this, but deciding to practice the other classes in damnation on the weekend has been the greatest mistake of my entire life
fresh reef
I don't mean to sound toxic when I say this, but deciding to practice the other ...
could be worse
the other two ragequit and this guy has ASS
lmfao
slate oasis
did he join late or...?
fresh reef
nope
fresh reef
first, oneshot by burster train
then, backed himself in a corner during a boss spawn
and got oneshot by a burster after getting bonboned
honestly props to him for not ragequitting too
I would've lol
glossy escarp
Unfortunate, but that's just how shit goes sometimes
Gotta take the good with the bad
fresh reef
honestly I'm proud of myself
clutched against a horde and a boss
then proceeded to die because I had 2 hp lol
glossy escarp
My most recent ragequit was when I tried to play gunker and I just was NOT feeling it, I left to give the team a bot after it turned into a 2-man clutch
plucky flax
You need bistol
steel flame
I had 8 people cycle out of my game in one match while I was leveling zealot last night on damnation with funny light speed ds4. Only one guy stuck around. As soon as everyone died they would cycle out l, leave me with bots, then new people would come and they would leave when they died. I had to kill 3 monsters by myself. At least I won at the end
feral knoll
She Purg on my Dueling Sword til I Venting Shriek?
left basin
i purged up 😦
feral knoll
Also. How does Penetrating Flame fare on Purgatus? Is it worth?
mental rock
BA+nexus is better, take an anti armor melee/BB
left basin
not really? i haven't seen many people praising (any)
feral knoll
So it would be better on the Dueling Sword if you take one?
glossy escarp
I suspect that the incredibly low soulblaze damage against carapace isn't helped fast enough by PF to make a big difference
upper sun
anyone gaming?
upper sun
i was doing stuff 😭
split lance
i was doing stuff 😭
Just say you don’t love me
twin lynx
Hell, the rounding system is broken as heck
halcyon gust
I had 8 people cycle out of my game in one match while I was leveling zealot las...
Typical day of Pubbing in DT
nocturne dust
Hell, the rounding system is broken as heck
You're just not rounding hard enough
halcyon gust
the bots were better players
Bots basically give you more ammo with a Survivalist vet 
nocturne dust
halcyon gust
Bots run the Scavenger aura and it doesn't get cancelled out by Survivalist as they're "Different" Aura technically
Not sure if that interaction has been patched out so take it with a grain of salt
upper sun
@broken carbon
idk pubs are pretty good now
games are laughable
that was high intensity auric
broken carbon
that was high intensity auric
high int is easy
elfin roost
Remember: It is really funny to use smite only
upper sun
@broken carbon there were some nice moments
and before you at me i know i used the wrong heavy
elfin roost
The reason psyker is unpopular is because this is not the kind of game where you can support your teammates (who will not even be able to help themselves)
barren lintel
you can support, its just that people dont understand what support means
upper sun
psyker is pretty popular
barren lintel
Psyker is very popular, if not the most influential class atm
plucky flax
Psyker is like 2nd most popular.
elfin roost
Really? Used to be less used than ogryn
plucky flax
Zealot is most i find.
elfin roost
What changed?
upper sun
the only issue is psyker has no burst protection against overheads
plucky flax
Psyker is just built different. 
upper sun
zealot has crazy toughness dr+until death
vet has ironwill
ogryn has an extra wound 23845hp and a lot of toughness
barren lintel
massive buffs, strong weapon choices, wide area of control over a fight, and multiple options to handle any difficulty without losing resources
plucky flax
Psyker has the most kill counts per game. 
upper sun
psyker has the ability to survive attrition very well tho
plucky flax
Just creeping some flames all over the place.
upper sun
will never run out of grenades or ammo
can regen toughness without wasting ults or needing enemies
barren lintel
its more that people tend to not know how strong psyker is because people follow really odd metas instead of specializing into roles per encounter
upper sun
also because every popular build on lantern is smyker only
barren lintel
jesus...
sinful olive
What changed?
a shitload of QOL improvements for the class over time and probably the biggest boost in build diversity with the skill tree overhaul.
mental rock
Gun psykers before patch13
elfin roost
This game made me hate dogs
barren lintel
you say that...but I remember Shredder Gun Pysker......
halcyon gust
idk pubs are pretty good now
Pubs are always a mix bag
You either get good groups or shit groups
elfin roost
you say that...but I remember Shredder Gun Pysker......
The days of obliterating crowds with brain bursting shrapnel fire
mental rock
Shredder gunker was just worse than zealot or vet though
barren lintel
uhhhhhhh
elfin roost
a shitload of QOL improvements for the class over time and probably the biggest ...
Oh dang
barren lintel
Pysker Shredder was Best in Damage overall
Vet was a very very close 2nd but thats due to their ability to maintain EXE stance
Zealot was the worst due to lack of power options
elfin roost
If I wanted to run a double barrel what would I do?
mental rock
Incorrect
elfin roost
If I wanted to run a double barrel what would I do?
(Any class not just/not even psyker)
mental rock
Zealot shredder killed 3 crushers in a single mag
barren lintel
so did everyone else
sinful olive
If I wanted to run a double barrel what would I do?
That I don't know, gun psyker is one of the builds I don't have much interest in, though I know it fucking slaps in the right hands.
mental rock
No
Psyker had no way to kill crushers with shredder besides crits which you couldn't rely on
halcyon gust
Zealot shredder killed 3 crushers in a single mag
Wasn't a good part of it the armor pierce it got from Zealot's chastise the wicked ability?
elfin roost
I think its hilarious that there was a time when staves were so average that psykers would turn to the guns
thorn cedar
it had nothing at all to do with killing crushers and everything to do with 100% bonus damage from Pinning Fire applying to your fire vent
mental rock
Wasn't a good part of it the armor pierce it got from Zealot's chastise the wick...
Yes, and?
summer fern
If I wanted to run a double barrel what would I do?
defensive melee weapon like a devil's claw. something like a knife you would rather just use the melee so having a defensive melee works pretty well in my experience
barren lintel
Thinking zealot was better than anyone else is laughable, theres a reason why they hated pysker and vet shredders to begin with because of how much better options both had
Pysker had BB on 10s with multiple power options and toughness restoration through combat, they basically were living toughness batteries....
Vets could regain ammo massively with survivalist and had options to maintain their power spikes that the other classes did not have, also with additional ammo options and lack of suppression, they were able to shoot from longer ranges, making it similar to a columnus
Zealots had charge to bypass armor, but it wasnt a new feature, a bolt gun could do the job better so their use with the Shredder was minimal gain and added nothing to the team
mental rock
Still wasn't good enough to justify giving up a staff though, if you wanted shredder just go play vet instead
loud silo
first time i solo a boss with psyker
i hate that you gotta do the penance on private game
elfin roost
Check these bolter stats
Do I go and master it (this is on zealot actually I might wanna ask them)
mental rock
Thinking zealot was better than anyone else is laughable, theres a reason why th...
Well I never said zealot was the best with shredder, that went to vet. Psyker shredder simply wasn't as good imo and I will always say this
barren lintel
well, thats your opinion then, but theres a reason why it was popular and not denied
elfin roost
Best to go the shouty chats
Yep, went over to them
sinful olive
I think its hilarious that there was a time when staves were so average that psy...
yeah it felt to me at the time that fatshark kind of carried over the idea from vermintide that the staves should be a little weaker (compared to other ranged weapons) because it didn't rely on ammo, which played into the idea that you should rely most on your melee weapon first and foremost. However vermintide also had way, way less ranged enemies to account for in basically all encounters and it just doesn't play the same.
mental rock
It was popular because everyone circle jerked the shredder, it wasnt actually that good on psyker
tepid python
Check these bolter stats
mine is 60 reload
barren lintel
uh huh....
elfin roost
yeah it felt to me at the time that fatshark kind of carried over the idea from ...
True, biggest change from vt was not hurting yourself with quelling
sinful olive
that as well
fuck I forgot about damaging yourself with quelling
it's been a while
elfin roost
I have ptsd from that
elfin roost
It wasnt bad but it was still annoying
thorn cedar
plasma gun was doing that initially ... kinda wish they'd bring that back
sinful olive
though I also mained IB/handmaiden/FK the most, not much sienna play
nocturne dust
plasma gun was doing that initially ... kinda wish they'd bring that back
I don't
mental rock
Doesn't plasma still have the toughness damage on vent?
nocturne dust
It does damage you when venting high enough % iirc
halcyon gust
Doesn't plasma still have the toughness damage on vent?
Still does
But you barely notice it with toughness Regen on elite/Specialist kill
Unless every elite and specialist gets yoinked by someone else
barren lintel
its ignorable as long as your are stacking either Exhilirating or Confirmed
Confirmed is easier
halcyon gust
99% of the time. You're running confirmed on Vet anyways
barren lintel
the day they nerf confirmed stacking again, is the day vet dies
sinful olive
It wasnt bad but it was still annoying
pales in comparison to getting one gorillion damage pings from behind you as IB because a beam staff user somehow manages to hit you when you're three foot nothing
halcyon gust
the day they nerf confirmed stacking again, is the day vet dies
It'll take a lot more than that to honestly kill vet. You have to basically gut all of his good skills
barren lintel
😦 they did nerf some of our best skills
No power sword stacking...
No more 5x Confirmed
No more super ammo regen
No more power acceleration
Sad vet is sad
near drift
They could make iron will a completely different talent and/or nerf the gold toughness node on VoC to make the vets suffer
barren lintel
except Infernus stacking, yeah that had to go
They didnt need gold toughness, Confirmed stacking was 20x better
strong gulch
I can play in a bit. I'm sick tho.
So expect me to think clearly and carry. /s
halcyon gust
They could make iron will a completely different talent and/or nerf the gold tou...
Casually moves Iron Will to the right side of the tree and but it as close to the bottom as possible making it a massive point tax
barren lintel
god no
halcyon gust
Don't even need to change it. Just make it very taxing 
barren lintel
meanwhile Pysker with its amazing toughness regen...
halcyon gust
Ogryn getting a shit ton of toughness every heavy attack
barren lintel
compared to the free toughness just by popping any shriek or scryers or just using a staff 😦
halcyon gust
True. Staffs just generate so much toughness you don't know what to do with it
Hell even ignore shooters to a extent
sinful olive
Vet simply suffers from being really, really good for quite a while on launch so people got used to it, and fatshark subsequently hit it with the most nerfs over time.
halcyon gust
Vet was paying for his pre-U13 sins
lethal lagoon
I can play in a bit. I'm sick tho.
So expect me to think clearly and carry. /s
Join up whenever, I sent an invite, gotta use the bathroom
barren lintel
I miss not needing PC for PS and could just go Rampage slaughter and get 6x swings
near drift
The limiter on psyker as always is low toughness DR/max toughness and no safety net like until death or VoC to eat big hits
halcyon gust
And the lack of real "OH SHIT" buttons if shit hits the fan
sinful olive
And the lack of real "OH SHIT" buttons if shit hits the fan
Correct, but psyker has some fantastic pre-emptive oh shit buttons
halcyon gust
Correct, but psyker has some fantastic pre-emptive oh shit buttons
That is true. Psyker is the best at preventing that OH SHIT moment
barren lintel
it depends on the staff and build, if you go inferno, you basically will never need VoC unless the weight of the encounter gets really really bad (basically if no one else is killing bombers/flamers)
sinful olive
Correct bubble and smite usage can salvage 90% of "oh shit" situations if your situational awareness is good
but
near drift
best laid plans and all that
sinful olive
if your randos do what my randos like to do they just like
watch me smite shit
and don't kill them
I will never understand
halcyon gust
watch me smite shit
Half the reason why I run BR on most psyker sets now
barren lintel
Inferno power gen now is so damn strong, it was already damn good before, now its just...the cure all
sinful olive
or just let shit hit me when I'm keeping 8 crushers at bay 
halcyon gust
or just let shit hit me when I'm keeping 8 crushers at bay <:6hd2_upsidedowncry:...
We love the lone pox walker smacking that psyker booty
At least BR does a great job at making everyone Focus down on a target 
near drift
I don't ever run smite now unless it's EP smite/vent just because I don't want to have to watch my teammates do literally nothing and all the enemies end up fine (I rarely run smite anyways tbh)
barren lintel
then again, with the influx of smite and LMB spam lately...too much carrying now
halcyon gust
I always trust my ilisi and Voidstrike to get myself out of most situations I get myself into
barren lintel
Ilisi always a good choice when the horde is just a bit too meaty
sinful olive
I don't ever run smite now unless it's EP smite/vent just because I don't want t...
I'm almost always playing with at least one other friend so I always run it, too useful in my eyes and makes poxburster spam in auric a non-issue.
I
*I'm actually not sure why they die so quickly after being smited
barren lintel
Explosion
halcyon gust
When you pop 1 burster the rest xplode in a chain reaction
barren lintel
During auric mael pox spam, just find the burster in front, give it a BB or kill it, it kills the rest
halcyon gust
Which is great as a in a pinch pathway clear
barren lintel
its only an issue when someone runs ahead and forces the poxburster spam to spread out
sinful olive
Well yes, I'm just saying the first one dies insanely quickly, like faster than a poxwalker it feels like
halcyon gust
Well yes, I'm just saying the first one dies *insanely* quickly, like faster tha...
Probably because you have other people shooting at it as well. That be m guess
barren lintel
then again, since Inferno LMB is the same thing as a push with melee and can double up because of how fast it is and how far it is, you could push a poxburster REALLY far away from you or your team
sinful olive
No, I've done it solo on freshly spawned ones, they just drop. I'm not running EP or even increased damage taken on it either.
not instantly of course, but faster than it feels like they should given how long everything else takes to die with smite.
upper sun
You still gayming?
no 😭
lethal lagoon
I have not played Psyker so much before this update
Your name is literally Leech-Spark
@strong gulch I like how we can carry people in Train now.
strong gulch
I trusted that smyker. 😭
My mistake.
lethal lagoon
feral knoll
That was after the update
strong gulch
<@417891087500312576> I like how we can carry people in Train now.
true
feral knoll
After the update I actually gave myself a nickname
lethal lagoon
feral knoll
The node on smite that makes heavy attacks shock them. Do they still get the increased damage taken?
north hatch
Stability and mobility are pretty equal in terms of dump stats for reconlasguns and laspistols
thorn cedar
The node on smite that makes heavy attacks shock them. Do they still get the inc...
Yes.
nocturne dust
then again, since Inferno LMB is the same thing as a push with melee and can dou...
I find poxbursters sometimes just ignore it until they're charged, and sometimes they'll only be pushed once.
north hatch
Stability and mobility are pretty equal in terms of dump stats for reconlasguns ...
https://i.imgur.com/13q6GbP.png
https://i.imgur.com/hwXWmWm.png
Cause idk which one I should keep
nocturne dust
It's less consistent than melee push
nocturne dust
https://i.imgur.com/13q6GbP.png
https://i.imgur.com/hwXWmWm.png
Cause idk whi...
both
north hatch
That's fair
nocturne dust
although you could also have collateral as the dump iirc
cuz it only changes stagger?
feral knoll
Both are just but fully upgraded I’d take the first one
feral knoll
cuz it only changes stagger?
I think after it hits like 40-50 it isn’t worth it for collat
north hatch
Huh didn't realize collateral was a dump stat too
I think I discarded like 3 60 collaterals
feral knoll
I think you want at least like. 40
nocturne dust
but you just wouldn't listen
violet laurel
Played psyker for the first time today
I have no idea what I'm doing
I understand that I'm lvl 1 but them abilities seem pretty lackluster
But I'll level him up for the penances 
halcyon gust
Psyker is probably the worst off starting out
serene roost
I like assail at lower level missions
halcyon gust
Yeah Assail will basically carry you through Malice missions
jovial juniper
I understand that I'm lvl 1 but them abilities seem pretty lackluster
Just beeline to a Keystone
violet laurel
I mean I have a zealot and vet on lvl 30 already
Not like I'm a beginner
But starting from 0 again is tuff 
lethal lagoon
I mean I have a zealot and vet on lvl 30 already
I'd say anything under level 100 is a beginner
violet laurel
I'd say anything under level 100 is a beginner
Total I have 88 on vet and zealot combined
lethal lagoon
limber leaf
Looking for help to complete the cliffhanger and maleus montronomum psyker penances.
strong gulch
I was looking through my builds and this was sitting there. This is knife voidstrike. Why are there 5 unspent points? Is it done? Was I sleeptiding when I did this?
strong gulch
thorn cedar
Surety of Arms is kinda ew
Very disappointed that it always costs you that perils gain even if you don't get the reload speed. Feels bad.
jovial juniper
It works when loading special shots on shotgun 
With the extra 10% reload perk
Spam slugs or whatever down range
normal matrix
Anyone else been seeing a LOT of psykers recently?
nocturne dust
Weird to bring that question to psyker chat
nocturne dust
But yes, talent tree update means lots of people messing around with psyker
nocturne dust
The power boost psyker got also doesn't hurt
nocturne dust
eh idk
Before the update, I felt like psyker had a number of problems that were holding the class back
normal matrix
But yes, talent tree update means lots of people messing around with psyker
That would make quite a lot of sense actually yeah
nocturne dust
at least in comparison to shout vet, heavy spam ogryn, and crackhead-too-faithful-to-die
normal matrix
Strangely though im seeing MORE psykers but less of them that blow up
normal matrix
Empyric is less peril but less toughness right?
nocturne dust
less toughness gen
normal matrix
Ah i was close, probably that more than crystal
nocturne dust
but psyker already generates tons of toughness and generally wants to kill things before being killed
normal matrix
I would still HEAR them explode
nocturne dust
so Empyric Resolve's downside isn't much of a problem for more advanced players
nocturne dust
I would still HEAR them explode
That's crystalline will
normal matrix
Im saying i just experience less psyker blowing up, going down notwithstanding
nocturne dust
Crystalline Will keeps the explosion and corruption damage, you just don't go down
normal matrix
Yes
Regardless, psyker update good and you answered my initial question, thank you
nocturne dust
Si, psyker update good
Now all I need is Force Devil's Claw
and a 5th class
and the lag fixed
and the sound cues muting fixed
and more force weapons in general
and souldrinker to be moved
and for charged strike to do something
and for crystalline will to turn you into an ogryn bomb
orchid ibex
gimme a skitarii class
nocturne dust
Some kinda tech class plz
normal matrix
Combat servitor
orchid ibex
combat servitor is probably easier to mix in lore-wise than a skitarii true
thought i don't think they're very light on their feet
normal matrix
They would definitely be more of a health and blocking class
But i think itd be a fun twist
orchid ibex
i'd play it
been doing a lot of voidstrike lately, what ability do you guys like to use with it? been doing scrier's
worn beacon
gimme a skitarii class
Too bad that it's not possible lorewise
AdMech is independent enough from Imperium to have own jurisdiction systems
orchid ibex
@worn beacon yeah, it wouldn't really make sense with the prisoner thing. a skitarii accused of a crime would just be recycled into something else more "useful"
unless they found some way of tying them in as just part of hadron's retinue, not a prisoner
nocturne dust
been doing a lot of voidstrike lately, what ability do you guys like to use with...
yeh scrier's. I use vent sometimes
orchid ibex
thanks. do you do warp resist as your dump?
nocturne dust
They would definitely be more of a health and blocking class
Psyker is the blocking class
nocturne dust
thanks. do you do warp resist as your dump?
Blast radius sometimes. I have 2 staves.
normal matrix
Fair, ive been more a vet and zeallie main, only really played support psyker
nocturne dust
Definitely warp resist for shriek build.
orchid ibex
i typically run warp unbound with scrier's for the 10s free casting, so i was up between either of those two actually
split lance
I was on surge and got out damaged by a voidstrike
normal matrix
I use double shieldwall because im a maniac
split lance
I just suck
orchid ibex
@nocturne dust can you elaborate a little? i'm not familiar with voidstrike's shortcomings and shriek
nocturne dust
Voidstrike's main problem is spread out enemies. Yeah, you can kill basically anything down a hallway, but if they're all scattered voidstrike is going to not do great. Shriek lets you set generally everything in your field of view on fire (with creeping flames)
orchid ibex
makes sense, i've been using assail to spam things too spread out
nocturne dust
Assail combos well with voidstrike, yeh
worn beacon
Psyker is the blocking class
True
Psykers getting almost double the stamina for blocking
I can't say skitarii would have any uniuqe gimmick for darktide
Considering all the gimmicks already been taken
nocturne dust
It's less that Psyker gets more stamina and more psyker has a second bar that resets and is consumed in different ways from stamina, meaning you're unlikely to have both bars run out at once
worn beacon
That, yeah
broken carbon
Psykers getting almost double the stamina for blocking
i think its actually like 4x the stam
i think its converted by like 1/4th stam cost to block
nocturne dust
It is more than the stam you have, yeah.
worn beacon
Ogryn is the health class
Zealot is melee bootleg vermintide class
orchid ibex
the psyker atheneum images have been broken on steam for me so i've been winging it on my voidstrike build just from what i know with other builds i've used. i might try switching to shriek though and see how that feels.
nocturne dust
Zealot is a dodge tank
worn beacon
Psyker is blocking and ranged class
worn beacon
Zealot is a dodge tank
So vermintide victor gaming
And what's veteran at this point?
worn beacon
Advertised as the man with gun
nocturne dust
and if that don't work
worn beacon
And yet
nocturne dust
use more gun
worn beacon
Mf can be a better melee class than zealot
nocturne dust
Only because of powersword
hollow jolt
to be fair, they're still good ranged class
worn beacon
Only because of powersword
Nuh uh
hollow jolt
Only because of powersword
na its weapon specialist being cracked
worn beacon
There's this funny talent
orchid ibex
if you go the right side infiltrate stuff you can do some damage as mixed melee/ranged
worn beacon
Weapon Specialist
orchid ibex
yeah, weapon specialist, that's what i was thinking.
hollow jolt
Weapon Specialist + Agile Engagement for bullshit
nocturne dust
Nah, weapon specialist is great but vet lacking stun immunity is a big issue
hollow jolt
Nah, weapon specialist is great but vet lacking stun immunity is a big issue
no its not
broken carbon
And what's veteran at this point?
everything
hollow jolt
that implies they get stunned
nocturne dust
So I guess powersword + shout
nocturne dust
that implies they get stunned
"just don't get hit" ah, the ole classic
hollow jolt
exaclt
worn beacon
Nah, weapon specialist is great but vet lacking stun immunity is a big issue
That inplies WS vet gets hit
hollow jolt
its not even that hard with WS Vet
hollow jolt
like I get "haha funny don't get hit" but its really that simple
nocturne dust
It really isn't
worn beacon
For WS Veteran? It's actually that simple
hollow jolt
even if you do get hit you have like 250 toughness
worn beacon
Game is practically holding you by hand if you get melee ws stack
hollow jolt
so who cares
worn beacon
even if you do get hit you have like 250 toughness
Fucking zero dmg 😭
nocturne dust
Well, yeah, I did mention shout as part of the problem
worn beacon
Infiltrate
hollow jolt
Fucking zero dmg 😭
I got hit twice at once
worn beacon
Shroudfield but better
hollow jolt
2 damage lol
worn beacon
You can literally not be targeted for 20 seconds, if you grab the -90% threat reduction augment
nocturne dust
To be fair that's easily Zealot gaming
nocturne dust
You can literally not be targeted for 20 seconds, if you grab the -90% threat re...
if any of your allies are alive which they very well might not be with the sudden aggro dump
hollow jolt
that's why you have 2 charges ;)
always surprises me when I see a stealth vet without the 2 charges
worn beacon
if any of your allies are alive which they very well might not be with the sudde...
There's also -50% tdr for leaving stealth if you're into that
worn beacon
always surprises me when I see a stealth vet without the 2 charges
I don't like 2 charges imho
nocturne dust
Like, yeah, I agree vet is good at melee but I disagree it beats zealot
worn beacon
It does 😭
nocturne dust
normal matrix
Im not too personal to the stealth abilities but i suppose if i would prefer it anywhere itd be on vet over zeal
Makes more sense thematically for vet
nocturne dust
Zealot just gets a stupid amount of ways to not die, it's kinda his thing, and I think that matters a lot for melee
worn beacon
Vet can do knife better than zealot because of serrated blade talent
Which gives 1 stack of bleed per hit all the time
It's bad
Unless you get mercy killer
nocturne dust
Doesn't knife love crits tho? You can get near 100% crit chance on zealot, no?
and zealot bleeds on crit
worn beacon
By combining those two you get free dmg up for Weakspot hits
worn beacon
Doesn't knife love crits tho? You can get near 100% crit chance on zealot, no?
Oh yeah knife is gambler's dream
Rng heavy
normal matrix
I think on a bleeding enemy with piety at max you get +35 crit?
worn beacon
That's A LOT
normal matrix
Before blessings
nocturne dust
and then on top of that Zealot also gets the ability to say 'no' to damage a bajillion times whether that's from simple dodging, literally just taking the hit and deciding not today and then healing, pulling out a book, charging at the enemy, etc. etc.
and they also have duelist
orchid ibex
@worn beacon quick question, why don't you like the two infiltrate charges thing?
worn beacon
and they also have duelist
Vets do too
worn beacon
<@409493544332558337> quick question, why don't you like the two infiltrate char...
I like quicker cd
normal matrix
Vet is a bit strapped for perk points as well
nocturne dust
Vets do too
vets have a node in their tree for 50% weakpoint damage?
worn beacon
Kinda
normal matrix
So you gotta really decide what you wanna get
normal matrix
Desperado is very good
nocturne dust
Desperado is neat but not as evil
normal matrix
Its 10 crit and 50 finesse
nocturne dust
isn't desperado 25
worn beacon
hefty point tax
Well...
Shit is not really that point heavy
You basically invest most in bottom part of the tree in all builds
All the good stuff is there
nocturne dust
idk, sacrificed the rending, brittleness, Born Leader
worn beacon
Nobody picks brittleness talent
Nobody picks born leader
And rending isn't always needed on vets loadout
normal matrix
Aye rending is wep depend
nocturne dust
I pick Born Leader
It's real neat sometimes with shout and other things.
and Demolition Stockpile is also not there
worn beacon
Well duh
It's infiltrate build
Grabbing shredder is point heavy
Krak wouldn't help
Smoke is kinda the only option
nocturne dust
Yeah come to think of it this uses smoke which is
normal matrix
I love kraks
worn beacon
Yeah come to think of it this uses smoke which is <:ogryn_pathetic:1083359691742...
Smoke is good, it's just not thrown as many like shredders
nocturne dust
Krak wouldn't help
Krak always helps
nocturne dust
Smoke is good, it's just not thrown as many like shredders
Eeehhh, good is a strong word
jovial juniper
Well it does what it's supposed to
nocturne dust
Yes
worn beacon
Eeehhh, good is a strong word
I mean
It does exactly what I want it to do
Smoke is at least useful
Throw at feet and no ranged attacks target me including the specials
nocturne dust
Crappy bubble
normal matrix
Would be cool if smokes put out fire like its CSGO
nocturne dust
Smokes should make enemies cough
orchid ibex
i typically like to have kraks just for the surprise crusher swarms
jovial juniper
That's just worse
fresh reef
short mfs
nocturne dust
I think the only height I changed was Ogryn
and I made him short instead of the tall meta
worn beacon
Shortest ones are the angriest
worn beacon
Big man gets sniper phobia
nocturne dust
Big man gets sniper phobia
Why else would he have a shield
ALSO
deflector should stop sniper shots, change my mind
proper bay
nocturne dust
jovial juniper
Being tall is meta?
It's for hyper specific situations
Such as targeting the important enemies with your blitz or Surge staff amidst a horde
lethal lagoon
No mettle or perfecting timing
nocturne dust
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bbecaec-aadf-4a9f-b9c1-fca8d922a87b/aq...
ew
lethal lagoon
jovial juniper
Or Zealot's chastise
worn beacon
deflector should stop sniper shots, change my mind
Longlas is a long range high power version of a lasgun which does better armor penetration
worn beacon
Tl;dr fuck you and your deflector shield
nocturne dust
Highest rated gameslantern builds trying their best
nocturne dust
Longlas is a long range high power version of a lasgun which does better armor p...
Screw you
Bubble
lethal lagoon
I wonder how that happens, all the worst builds get upvoted.
nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
You know what, there are small enough votes, that a group of people might be trolling.
lethal lagoon
Hmm, should we make an awful build and then try to push it to the top?
nocturne dust
lmao, yes
worn beacon
Yes
split lance
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9bbecaec-aadf-4a9f-b9c1-fca8d922a87b/aq...
This being the purg lets me know everything I gotta know
nocturne dust
This being the purg lets me know everything I gotta know
th-that's my purg tho
actually wait
split lance
Don’t even gotta look at the tree
nocturne dust
I thought warp nexus was blaze away
split lance
th-that's my purg tho
See this is why we steal all ur warpfire
worn beacon
This being the purg lets me know everything I gotta know
What's wrong with it
nocturne dust
See this is why we steal all ur warpfire
I lied
worn beacon
Vet main
nocturne dust
I use blaze away
worn beacon
Not psyker
lethal lagoon
th-that's my purg tho
All your soulblazes belong to me
split lance
Not psyker
Blaze away on purg and nexus is obscene in damage output
lethal lagoon
worn beacon
What's blaze away again
split lance
Like. Enemies just drop right in front of you
nocturne dust
What's blaze away again
power based on charge/magazine
lethal lagoon
Like. Enemies just drop right in front of you
You know what else drops in front of you?
split lance
You know what else drops in front of you?
You
nocturne dust
You know what else drops in front of you?
The adam's apple when a boy is going through puberty?
lethal lagoon
The numbers in your bank account
worn beacon
power based on charge/magazine
So like plasma blaze away?
lethal lagoon
split lance
What's blaze away again
More dmg per clip drain
nocturne dust
So like plasma blaze away?
si but worse on inferno cuz it stacks super quick
lethal lagoon
blaze away is keep firing = more power
split lance
blaze away is keep firing = more power
Yeah that
lethal lagoon
They should just buff
nocturne dust
I want more fire
worn beacon
Wait no
orchid ibex
because i'm bad at the game every time i try doing purgatus i get nuked by ranged enemies
nocturne dust
I like you again
You didn't like me?
lethal lagoon
because i'm bad at the game every time i try doing purgatus i get nuked by range...
Purg makes you immune to ranged
split lance
But also this
Oh I was waiting for the gif of me dying
lethal lagoon
EE
nocturne dust
lethal lagoon
Oh I was waiting for the gif of me dying
Fuck, that would have been better
But tbf, this is you falling in front of me though
split lance
Still
orchid ibex
@lethal lagoon how?
split lance
It’s hilarious
worn beacon
More dmg per clip drain
Wait
lethal lagoon
<@1001693431300636764> how?
emphatic evasion talent right below the auras
split lance
because i'm bad at the game every time i try doing purgatus i get nuked by range...
Position in cover
lethal lagoon
Ew
worn beacon
Are we sure purgatus has fucking ammo and mags?
lethal lagoon
Tren hush
nocturne dust
I wish I could fit EE on my purg build still
proper bay
This being the purg lets me know everything I gotta know
idk homie i just game here, learning the class anew
lethal lagoon
When have you ever used cover
orchid ibex
@lethal lagoon oh lmao, i don't have it on this build. see i'm bad.
lethal lagoon
split lance
Are we sure purgatus has fucking ammo and mags?
The charge counts
slender coyote
Are we sure purgatus has fucking ammo and mags?
yep
split lance
idk homie i just game here, learning the class anew
I’m just being funny I don’t actually mean any hate 🫶
worn beacon
yep
Can't wait to see a decked out purgatus with sights, laser pointers and Bolter mags
proper bay
im not taking offense im just like
split lance
When have you ever used cover
Listen to me. Dont play like me
proper bay
"wow, unoptimal build"
formal harness
They should buff wildfire
it doesn't need to be a big change, make the cap 6 instead of 4 and I will use that bitch on a lot more setups
slender coyote
Can't wait to see a decked out purgatus with sights, laser pointers and Bolter m...
weapon customization mod has u covered
lethal lagoon
smh, Tren is already a middle-aged parent
worn beacon
The charge counts
So every 10% of charge spent?
split lance
it doesn't need to be a big change, make the cap 6 instead of 4 and I will use t...
I try putting it on everything
nocturne dust
it doesn't need to be a big change, make the cap 6 instead of 4 and I will use t...
make the cap 30
split lance
So every 10% of charge spent?
Yes
worn beacon
weapon customization mod has u covered
It doesn't, it can't turn purgatus into a bolt gun
split lance
You’ll notice it ramps up fast
formal harness
make the cap 30
lmao, that would be insanely op
lethal lagoon
Just run 4 psykers with shriek and you basically have that already
split lance
Instant rmbs
No
formal harness
30 capped wildfire running purg shriek psyker moment
lethal lagoon
split lance
I don’t think
formal harness
where the enemies at? oh they vaporized already
worn beacon
I also fell victim to atheneum builds before I asked y'all guys for advices
God damn that trauma build
😭
worn beacon
Pygex cannot be trusted with making actual builds
proper bay
can someone help me sort out a good brain rupture build then? still workign my way up to 30
nocturne dust
proper bay
am at 24
orchid ibex
what's wrong with the trauma build?
formal harness
atheneum is imo a good entry tool to psyker, but not the best when it comes to actual building
proper bay
don't really like assail even though its really good
was told to avoid smite till i'm 1337 so i dont develop bad habits
nocturne dust
I don't like any of the blitzes
formal harness
the best builds are the ones you use your own volition on top of objectively good talent nodes
nocturne dust
the best builds are the ones you use your own volition on top of objectively goo...
me with penetrating flame
barren lintel
cant trust most builds people suggest..many people make builds that are only tested in Pysk or in Low Intensity or scuffed solo
split lance
Pygex cannot be trusted with making actual builds
Trust the tren
nocturne dust
I trust you to die, tren.
formal harness
I'm running a psyker build with all the abuse and cheese you can possibly run in a build, on first glance it looks pretty meh. but when you use it with all the tasty cheese it gets ridiculous
nocturne dust
formal harness
I'm looking at you quell cancelling
nocturne dust
Are pen flames that bad?
No, it's good, it's just not Nexus
barren lintel
a friend of mine showed me someone who made a tier list of weapons in the game and said Inferno doesnt have cc ability or crowd control
nocturne dust
It's the middle child
split lance
Are pen flames that bad?
Try out nexus, blaze away. You’ll see why that’s popular
worn beacon
a friend of mine showed me someone who made a tier list of weapons in the game a...
You say that
Purgatus
split lance
a friend of mine showed me someone who made a tier list of weapons in the game a...
They just suck
normal matrix
Brain burst with emp psy is pretty good
formal harness
and honestly guys, a lot of opinions on the internet are from people who have less than 100 hours on a particular weapon and build from psyker
nocturne dust
Inferno doesn't have CC, it has death
formal harness
I like my builds tested to absolute death before I recommend them to anyone
split lance
VS is the “worst” staff and its still very good
barren lintel
trust me...I felt the rage of my emperor with that one
thorn cedar
im way too busy playing darktide to make guides or videos about darktide
nocturne dust
the CC is a byproduct of being on fire
nocturne dust
im way too busy playing darktide to make guides or videos about darktide
how dare you
formal harness
im way too busy playing darktide to make guides or videos about darktide
I was going to make an in depth zealot guide, but holy shit I suck at graphic design
worn beacon
I still like how everyone still calls the staves by their old names
formal harness
so I stopped trying lol
nocturne dust
You can't be in this Discord if you play Darktide
normal matrix
im way too busy playing darktide to make guides or videos about darktide
"Hello, based department? Id like to file a claim"
split lance
im way too busy playing darktide to make guides or videos about darktide
I trust agent chaos with my life. I would trust @lethal lagoon but he lets enemies gimme backshots so
formal harness
@plucky flax took my wife and kids, do not trust him bro
worn beacon
I trust no one
I grow tomatoes on my balcony
nocturne dust
I trust no one
I grow tomatoes on my balcony
You trust your balcony
barren lintel
I think that same person put evis on D tier
barren lintel
Evis is d tier. Big D energy.
My friend would love you
patent mango
evis just feels kinda wayy too slow
worn beacon
anyways, I'm gonna go terrorize some qp lobbies
Showing psyker gameplay to a Victorian child would literally obliterate them
barren lintel
anyways, I'm gonna go terrorize some qp lobbies
as long as its not my lobbies
worn beacon
Showing psyker gameplay to a non psyker player would obliterate them
Okay honestly playing assail void/trauma psyker gave me a glimpse of what ADHD is
split lance
Showing psyker gameplay to a Victorian child would literally obliterate them
Tell them it’s the future
worn beacon
It's funny as fuck
split lance
Okay honestly playing assail void/trauma psyker gave me a glimpse of what ADHD i...
Try gunker
worn beacon
I am doing gunker
split lance
Assail. Scriers. Gun.
worn beacon
I have two separate psyker characters
split lance
Why
worn beacon
One is gunker and other is for staves
split lance
Oh. Just get the more loadouts mod
worn beacon
Also because I wanted to hear male loner scrier voicelines
Because I started with female savant
Everytine she spoke it dealt psychic damage to me because she's french
split lance
Iirc isn’t there that barber dude that lets you change ur character appearance
worn beacon
I recently changed her to the dream psyker
I like the grandma banter about her schizophrenia
split lance
I’ve been running the “my beloved” Psyker since I started
vernal blaze
with soulblaze trauma and warpcharges, do i take soulblaze charge or the 4% one
worn beacon
I’ve been running the “my beloved” Psyker since I started
My Beloved Psyker and Loner Psyker fit better for rejects imho
lethal lagoon
Everytine she spoke it dealt psychic damage to me because she's french
Smh, the youngins don't understand.
vernal blaze
i feel like anything that trauma crits that isnt an elite sorta explodes immediately anyways
worn beacon
Because they both are insane
lethal lagoon
split lance
My Beloved Psyker and Loner Psyker fit better for rejects imho
My beloved Psyker best Psyker
He also has the least annoying voice
I hate one of the other psykers
The uhh
Stuck up one
lethal lagoon
I want a psyker voice that's just horribly mean to everyone
Teammate heals? "Like that will help"
Teammate takes ammo? "Might as well just throw that in the garbage
potent echo
I think any depressed psyker immediately ceases to exist
split lance
Teammate takes ammo? "Might as well just throw that in the garbage
Oh. That’s just me in vc so
worn beacon
My beloved Psyker best Psyker
«I sense rage, fear and four shortened lifespans... No, not four shortened lifespans, I said foreshortened lifespans! Why are you not paying attention?! Look at me, not them!» — Male Loner
split lance
@lethal lagoon what is rotator
worn beacon
I want a psyker voice that's just horribly mean to everyone
That's just bully ogryn
lethal lagoon
<@1001693431300636764> what is rotator
cuff?
worn beacon
They gave him bigger intelligence, he immediately started to be an asshole
lethal lagoon
OH
lmao
Brotato, it was one of those vampire survivor clones, but it's like an actual action game and is better than literally all of them.
west flax
They gave him bigger intelligence, he immediately started to be an asshole
i get that
split lance
Brotato, it was one of those vampire survivor clones, but it's like an actual ac...
Omg I gotta try it then. I loved vampire survivors
worn beacon
i get that
I mean he's still dumber than average stealth zealot player
No need to be rude to literally everyone
west flax
I mean he's still dumber than average stealth zealot player
thats not possible
potent echo
This is meta
lethal lagoon
Omg I gotta try it then. I loved vampire survivors
It's also co-op
Though you have to use the steam thingy I believe
nocturne dust
Brotato, it was one of those vampire survivor clones, but it's like an actual ac...
As a Survivors connoisseur, Brotato is neat
kindred edge
If you like VS you'll also like Halls of Torment
lethal lagoon
It's the only clone that is a real game in my opinion
The rest are just math simulators
Which I like.
But I like the one where skill matters a ton more .
nocturne dust
I mean, the math maths even in Brotato
lethal lagoon
Yes, but you can also overpower a lot of situations with skill
Which just isn't a thing in survivors.
It's still a survivors clone
It's just also an actual video game too
nocturne dust
Sure, but you can do that in some others. Halls of Torment is another one.
lethal lagoon
No?
nocturne dust
Yes
lethal lagoon
It's very basic
nocturne dust
Erm, no
lethal lagoon
Erm, yes
nocturne dust
It's like VS and reveals stuff as you progress
lethal lagoon
I know, I played a bunch
nocturne dust
then wdym basic
lethal lagoon
The actual skill required?
split lance
It's also co-op
I’m down if ur down.
lethal lagoon
Like you can't be bad at vampire survivors, it just doesn't work that way.
nocturne dust
I mean
lethal lagoon
You can be dumb
nocturne dust
that's the same for Brotato tho
nocturne dust
Very little skill required besides mathing
lethal lagoon
nocturne dust
Now I feel like you just wanna argue to argue
Not at all, I don't see your viewpoint at all
lethal lagoon
When's the last time you played?
nocturne dust
Mmmm a while ago I guess
lethal lagoon
Is it possible you just forgot?
nocturne dust
No
lethal lagoon
Well it's low data, pop it open real quick and see if you beat all the chars on danger 5
Or something close
(it also got updated a bunch, so you might as well play again)
lethal lagoon
I’m down if ur down.
Ye.
nocturne dust
Wait is your complaint the difficulty
lethal lagoon
The opposite
lethal lagoon
I like that Brotato is an actual game
No I mean the others can be "hard"
But it's more like, you got a question wrong on a test
lethal lagoon
than actual skill
nocturne dust
Hm, I mean that's fair but I don't see how Brotato changes that. It's still just movement on a 2d plane.
lethal lagoon
Just play it again on the highest diff, you'll see.
I think you just forgot
Maybe I'm crazy...
mental rock
Y'all should play the real skill based VS clone... Crab champions
split lance
lethal lagoon
Y'all should play the real skill based VS clone... Crab champions <:KEKW_ogryn:1...
That's a risk of rain 2 clone you actual heathen.
mental rock
Same thing
lethal lagoon
But also yeah Tren, you should play Crab Champions
mental rock
nocturne dust
Don't I have to unlock that
broken carbon
But also yeah Tren, you should play Crab Champions
swag champions
lethal lagoon
Don't I have to unlock that
If it's not unlocked then I think that proves my point.
I don't get my brain. I clearly know the difference between then and than, but it doesn't matter.
I'm cursed to be
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nocturne dust
If it's not unlocked then I think that proves my point.
I did it on my pc
which is not with me
nerd
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lethal lagoon
But it might be a bit too math simulatorly at low diff.
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nocturne dust
I remember playing at higher difficulties so I don't get what you mean
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nocturne dust
this is just an excuse to make me play Brotato isn't it
broken carbon
do u fuck with the bufftintin sticker
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